Everything I COULDN'T say on TV. Reacting to my outrageous debate.

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    Last week my debate with Martin Kennedy, Director of the National Farmer's Union Scotland, was aired on TV. This is everything I was unable to say during the segment.
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  • @ed.winters
    @ed.winters  2 года назад +162

    What would you have said to Martin during this debate?
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    • @v.a.n.e.
      @v.a.n.e. 2 года назад +1

      hahaha, I knew you were upset over your debate loss with this gentleman. however, you have made no changes; the show has already aired, and a large number of people who saw it did not see your video response.

    • @linauna
      @linauna 2 года назад +4

      I really want to write you the arguments the astrologer I consulted, gave me about why we as humans, should eat meat, she needs to be on a debate! 😅😝

    • @linauna
      @linauna 2 года назад +2

      Is the book is going to be available in spanish soon?

    • @ExcellentSunset
      @ExcellentSunset 2 года назад

      I would have said “Martin, do you actually think that’s true and not an absolutely ridiculous statement that you’re making for some particular reason of trying to sway people to just continue eating meat? Do you really think that animals are treated better when humans are not being bred for slaughter? Are we forcibly impregnating human women? Are we keeping humans in pens of their own feces waiting to be killed so we can then eat them? Are you absolutely deranged?” Now… I may not have said that on television. But maybe I would have!

    • @seanmoynihan7471
      @seanmoynihan7471 2 года назад

      Vegan playing the victim,surprise, surprise, got your ass whipped by a big thick farmer,sour grapes i would say,.Interestly you never mention the 160 million in forced agricultural labour (slavery they should be in school).the syrian refugees picking nuts for IOU'S (think about your vegan roast)the morracan migrants picking soft fruit in Spain, the gang master take their passports ,some of the women are raped others forced into prostitution, the African migrants in Italy picking citrus and tomatoes controlled by the Mafia they take their passports again no rights.Even in England they caught ROMANIAN children picking spring onions inclose to ZERO temperatures no food or eater, they were as young as 7,yes your diet is ethical

  • @Fruit_bee
    @Fruit_bee 2 года назад +515

    Im from Ukraine. and this farmers president has no right to use me as an excuse to continue to kill and abuse animals. Thank you Ed for a great and sane video , Love

    • @v.a.n.e.
      @v.a.n.e. 2 года назад +2

      how does he use you as an excuse?

    • @thewildwoodlandgarden.420
      @thewildwoodlandgarden.420 2 года назад +32

      @@v.a.n.e. he's talking about the way people treat others, saying that animals for food are being treated better than humans, giving the current situation in Ukraine as an example. It's a distraction.

    • @v.a.n.e.
      @v.a.n.e. 2 года назад +1

      it is perfectly clear to me what he was saying. what I don't get is why she thinks she was used as a justification. @@thewildwoodlandgarden.420

    • @thewildwoodlandgarden.420
      @thewildwoodlandgarden.420 2 года назад +8

      @@v.a.n.e. In a round about way, it kinda is. I think he's just using distractions, the biggest one being about the highest standards of welfare in the world-that certainly doesn't equate to being cruelty free, free from suffering or violence. It doesn't take much to having higher standards than China, the middle east, the US and some countries in eastern europe. So I think the talk about the animals for food being treated better tha some humans are being treated is a distraction, but humans will use any distractions to justify what they do or make themselves feel better about it, so we get, 'ahh, they're being treated better than my boss treats me, and farm animals don't have to work, and they do 't have to suffer like me and other humans, and look at thosehumans in the war zones' etc.

    • @v.a.n.e.
      @v.a.n.e. 2 года назад +1

      ok, I got it. you don't want to talk about what Fruit Bee was trying to say, your focus is on what he wanted to say, and it seems more interesting to you.
      how would you personally assess the situation in Ukraine? have you thought about it? @@thewildwoodlandgarden.420

  • @WaddyMuters
    @WaddyMuters 2 года назад +530

    You can see the marketing team going into overdrive for this interview.
    The guys accent, clothes and even the backdrop are on point. They are basically try selling this guy as a tolkienesque hobbit that’s just woken up from under an oak tree taking a nap while watching his sheep only to be harassed by the ungrateful youths.
    That’s what they try to sell a romanticized fairytale.
    Who cares if it’s all lies, the people want to be lied to.
    Because the reality of the meat industry is so unbelievably horrible, it can’t be defended with honesty.

    • @GlossRabban
      @GlossRabban 2 года назад +15

      He actually looks like someone who smoked too much Pipe-weed ;)

    • @sarahkybett933
      @sarahkybett933 2 года назад +15

      Such a brilliant comment, I loved it !

    • @goranbreskic4304
      @goranbreskic4304 2 года назад +14

      Haha! What a description! 👍

    • @WaddyMuters
      @WaddyMuters 2 года назад +27

      @@goranbreskic4304 Thanks. I just hate how dishonest this all is. It’s so transparent what’s going on here. This was just a nice story for the people who don’t want to be upset by the truth.
      It’s amazing how easy it is, for PR and marketing agencies, to lie to people that want to be lied to.
      You‘d think most people would care more the truth.
      It boarders being a parody actually.

    • @sia1036
      @sia1036 2 года назад +11

      💯 never seen more truth in a comment, man 💚🌱

  • @betadecay6503
    @betadecay6503 2 года назад +196

    Him admitting that it is horrific needs to be clipped and used on repeat with graphics showing his credentials over footage from UK farms and slaughterhouses.

    • @AnimalAgricultureExposed
      @AnimalAgricultureExposed 2 года назад +9

      top idea

    • @6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82
      @6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 2 года назад

      and sadly, no one will care LOL

    • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
      @user-gu9yq5sj7c 11 месяцев назад

      @@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 Ed made videos with animal abuse clips. You can made those videos too. Stop being so negative and fatalistic. Your name has Jesus in it, but Jesus was a positive person.

  • @Wearephuct-O
    @Wearephuct-O 2 года назад +179

    It must be really frustrating having to cram a broad, extremely important topic into an very limited time frame.
    You did an excellent job.

  • @normanbayona4636
    @normanbayona4636 2 года назад +122

    I became Vegan the day I watched the Game changers, precisely because I was made aware of the lies the meat and dairy industry have fed us for decades - I gain no health benefit from consuming meat. Then I started to understand better the ecological impact of animal farming. And more recently, in part thanks to your debates, the moral imperative we have.
    Hearing this guy rapid fire lies through his teeth was frustrating, and I'm glad you've had practice debating people who spout nonsense.

    • @rainedyani8505
      @rainedyani8505 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for caring, Norman. ❤️🙏✌️

    • @sheli4239
      @sheli4239 2 года назад

      @Il Cavalluccio Marino B12 is a bacteria that is naturally found in soil, but with commercial farming and the heavy, routine use of pesticides and others of the sort, any and all b12 in the soil is killed.
      Cows and other grass-feeding animals that are bred to be killed can get b12 from grazing since it is found in the soil they are ingesting. (But as mentioned above, heavy pesticides kill the b12 in soil.) In farming, the majority of animals are fed soy or corn food pellets in dark, crowded, enclosed spaces with cement floors and no grass to be found. We used to get it the same way as we walked around barefoot picking up fruits and veggies from the ground, absorbing it through our skin and not washing what we ate so we could get it that way as well. The B-12 myth has been busted . Stop thinking that animals products are the only source.

    • @isabellezablocki7447
      @isabellezablocki7447 2 года назад +3

      @Il Cavalluccio Marino I think everyone knows by now that you need to supplement with B12 when you are vegan. Yet not many people know you need to supplement with B12 whatever your diet is after the age of 50.

    • @DublinDapper
      @DublinDapper 2 года назад

      The vegan propaganda worked on you so

    • @sheli4239
      @sheli4239 2 года назад +2

      @@DublinDapper If it's propaganda that has erred on the side of kindness and compassion.......I'll take that all day every day, but that's not how it works now,....is it?

  • @FakYuhGoogel
    @FakYuhGoogel 2 года назад +241

    I really hate these 10 minute tv shows that discuss big topics in way too short of a time. Especially when you barely have time to debunk all the lies defending the status quo.
    I want a 2 hour conversation on tv including Ed, that farmers union goofball president, then add a couple of experts that can confirm or deny various claims.

    • @gallectee6032
      @gallectee6032 2 года назад +7

      This won't happen on TV because of ratings. They need to move things along so people don't switch channels.

    • @HiddenStr3ngth
      @HiddenStr3ngth 2 года назад +10

      That's the problem, one can shoot out 100 lies in 2 minutes but it's harder and it takes a lot more time to dispel them.
      Dishonest, callous and delusional people have the advantage in that arena.
      Though it also occurs in longer debates.

    • @jessicaj8564
      @jessicaj8564 2 года назад +2

      @Ryan Robinett you’re a vegetarian? You do know the dairy industry is arguably far more cruel than the meat industry?

    • @heyo5493
      @heyo5493 2 года назад +1

      @Ryan Robinett respect

    • @jibjubby
      @jibjubby 2 года назад

      ​@Ryan Robinett Fair play man, It's awesome you're feeding your dog without having to put other animals through hell. Hopefully I can do something like this in the future. Of course you will get people calling you out when you say you're a vegetarian and not a Vegan though. You sound pretty Vegan to me. Vegan is a moral stance which you seem to be adhering to excellently. Obviously you can call yourself what you want, but if you imply that you're not a Vegan you're always gonna have people coming after you lol.

  • @bvegannow1936
    @bvegannow1936 2 года назад +38

    That farmer should probably be criminally charged with fraud, deceptive marketing practices, and false advertising. Lying to trick someone into buying your product is often illegal.

    • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
      @user-gu9yq5sj7c 11 месяцев назад

      Especially if they charge higher prices for the supposed "grass fed, free range, or no additives like hormones", etc.
      Even if someone is a meat eater, why would they want to be lied to, scammed, and be ok with animal abuse?

  • @NeneChan203
    @NeneChan203 2 года назад +69

    Why do they never want to show what goes on INSIDE the walls of their humane and dreamy slaughterhouses and farms???? Why don't they have walls of glass so that everyone can see???? Why is filming inside not allowed???? I think we all know the reason.
    Ed, your elegance and knowledge is out of this world, you're changing the world. Thank you for everything you do.

    • @GG-vq6ro
      @GG-vq6ro 2 года назад +8

      Also why do so many slaughterhouse workers suffer from PTSD? Doesn't sound like a very humane environment at all.

    • @navadel1
      @navadel1 2 года назад +7

      I was having a debate with someone online once. It went on and on - he had a response for everything. He then finally claimed the farm he worked on wasn't like that. I said to post a photo if that was the case. His response was that he wouldn't, but only because he didn't want his farm identified. I pointed out that would be impossible - just send a photo of the animals, if they had such a great existence. Never heard another word from him. This was a person who'd debated (illogically) until he was blue in the face, but when given the opportunity to 'prove' how great the standards were on his farm, went awol.

    • @NeneChan203
      @NeneChan203 2 года назад

      @@navadel1 very typical haha. I have received many comments like that; furious, angry people just writing essays about how most of the cattle grows in these idilliac pastures, how they are painlessly killed with one shotgun bullet in their brain so that they feel nothing, and how the ag industry is actually saving the environment and how all the crops are grown for vegans and veganism is destroying the eco system. Absolute bonkers.

    • @NeneChan203
      @NeneChan203 2 года назад +2

      @@GG-vq6ro yeah, and lots of them develop very aggressive and sadistic behaviors. There's just so many horrible problems with the animal industry, I can't believe I used to consume their products. So glad I went vegan, best choice of my life.

    • @jakepilcher8500
      @jakepilcher8500 2 года назад +2

      I wish something like this had been said to me before I was vegan whenever I went to the "not all slaughterhouses" argument. Okay then, no worries, all of the footage available from slaughterhouses is conveniently from the bad ones. Link me to the footage of the nice ones. Link me to the footage of the humane ones. What are the odds that investigators are getting so "lucky" to capture horrific and upsetting footage. Or if they're not releasing everything they capture then surely the industry should set the record straight by doing it themselves.

  • @iananderson5561
    @iananderson5561 2 года назад +146

    You're the bossman Ed. You're one of the best and most elegant debaters in the world. You're extremely knowledgeable and armed with facts/evidence. Not only that, you're amazing at sharing that knowledge and educating others. Keep up the amazing work buddy, and keep speaking up for animals!

    • @charliem9188
      @charliem9188 2 года назад

      Humans are animals too don't forget. And a lot of animal brains on here unfortunately do not understand how they are duped by this crazy NWO push toward veganism. I used to be a hardcore "vegetarian" myself. It's almost impossible to avoid meat, and for a good reason. If you have to take artificial supplements for B12 and D3 for example that should tell you right there you are not eating your natural diet. The animals do not need to suffer needlessly, and nobody is saying that. If you were being chased by a theoretical raptor who just wanted to eat you to survive, that might change your perspective a bit as to the harsh nature of reality that as a being of gross physical matter you are always having to consume something else to survive. Do you think plants like to be eaten too? No they don't, that's why they lace themselves with tannins and other toxins so the animals don't destroy them. You are buying right into NWO agenda with all the talk of climate control and the poor animals. What about the humans animals, think of those too.

  • @WhyArentYouVegan
    @WhyArentYouVegan 2 года назад +168

    Thank you for speaking up for animals.

    • @Ibanezyt
      @Ibanezyt 2 года назад

      Plants don't want to be eaten. They can't run away and have antinutrients as a defense mechanism. They are conscious and capable of cognitive process.

    • @MercyForTheInnocent
      @MercyForTheInnocent 8 месяцев назад

      lets all speak up together!!! animal liberation!!!

  • @NoInjusticeLastsForever
    @NoInjusticeLastsForever 2 года назад +739

    Veganism isn't a silver bullet. But if there was ever such a thing to reduce suffering and help humans and animal well-being, going vegan is the closest to a silver bullet as we'll ever get. ❤️

    • @athleticvegan9791
      @athleticvegan9791 2 года назад +24

      agreed

    • @DominionMovementDotOrg
      @DominionMovementDotOrg 2 года назад

      true. i think the base of many world problems is from the continuing mistake of herding culture which actually is capitalism itself from its inception. if this mentality of destruction, greed, and oppression could be eradicated, it would help win freedom and safety for many living beings trapped within those systems’ apparatuses, which is basically all of us, some more than others. the many ills it creates in the world could have a chance to clear up and balance could be restored

    • @strider_hiryu850
      @strider_hiryu850 2 года назад +17

      i mean, it kindof is. everything else is bonus

    • @slideman1249
      @slideman1249 2 года назад +10

      It doesn’t help humans sure it helps animals but we need meat

    • @magomagic8787
      @magomagic8787 2 года назад +56

      @@slideman1249 why do we need it?

  • @leah425
    @leah425 2 года назад +18

    I watched the documentary Dominion over three years ago now. We all knew that meat came from animals who were killed, but actually witnessing it and learning how so many aspects of the industry are not public knowledge and actually very hidden away, was pretty mind blowing. And until recently, one would have to dig pretty deep to find out this much out in such graphic detail. The activists risking their freedoms for potential jail time/heavy fines, to get all the footage from the last few years is admirable. I do street outreach with clips from this very documentary and I see the power it has on people, the emotion is real out there, people just need to see the truth to make a more informed decision about their lifestyle choices. When the end credits rolled, I went vegan on the spot and never looked back. The best decision I have made that aligns perfectly with my animal loving values.

  • @TempehLiberation
    @TempehLiberation 2 года назад +208

    "We do everything possible for the animals welfare" - well, except for the fact that you kill them. That's probably not in their welfare Martin....

    • @dreadpirateroberts1358
      @dreadpirateroberts1358 2 года назад

      That actually does serve a role in their welfare.

    • @dragoned7685
      @dragoned7685 2 года назад +7

      @@dreadpirateroberts1358 How?

    • @Christoph-Dietz
      @Christoph-Dietz 2 года назад +10

      A Freudian slip, he meant 'farewell'

    • @lightoftruth8672
      @lightoftruth8672 2 года назад +3

      Look up how many animals and lifeforms are killed to produce 5 kgs of wheat. Where do you draw the line on when or what is OK to kill and not kill. One cow living a wonderful life on a pasture can provide food for many souls. The death surrounding large scale agricultural crops is staggering, but no one cares about that.

    • @dragoned7685
      @dragoned7685 2 года назад

      @@lightoftruth8672 You forget that farmed animals need to eat too as they grow large enough to be slaughtered. It takes many kilograms of plant matter to produce 1 kilogram of flesh. Eating animals kills more animals through plant agriculture than eating plants does.

  • @pamwalmsley1865
    @pamwalmsley1865 2 года назад +206

    Does this guy actually believe what he is saying,? The points he is making are absolutely ridiculous...keep up the good work Ed!

    • @gisellen9638
      @gisellen9638 2 года назад +7

      he's only interested in the money he gets from it

    • @lucasbleyle5015
      @lucasbleyle5015 2 года назад +4

      I've heard a lot of the same arguments out of phd animal scientists at Purdue University. It's really scary how antiscience they get as top scientists

    • @corgimeatlover9970
      @corgimeatlover9970 2 года назад +5

      I don't think he does at heart. There are marketing people on staff that advised him to make those talking points on television based on how it will influence consumers.

    • @evecowley5713
      @evecowley5713 2 года назад +4

      He is straight up lying about the practices but people like that genuinely do believe that what they are doing is right. I am a vet student so have to work with a lot of farmers and they do genuinely think they give the animals a good life and that we simply need meat. One farmer even told me they are doing the animals a favour because by slaughtering them when they are young, they prevent them having to deteriorate and suffer when they get ill from old age. This is of course complete rubbish because they literally kill the animals before puberty age when they would still have many happy years before them. What I'm trying to say is, these people in the industry have been brought up with that mindset and are very unlikely to change. We have to target the public and aim to reduce consumer demand for meat and animal products I think. Very sad being forced to work in that environment as a vet student but one day I hope to be a sanctuary vet and use my skills for the good of animals💖💖

    • @TheAleatoriorandom
      @TheAleatoriorandom 2 года назад +1

      It's surprising how much someone can lie to oneself if the truth would result in the realization that you are doing something that is wrong. Everyone wants to believe they are a good, moral person. I can imagine someone raised to be a farmer and doing it for years having a huge mental resistance to the idea that what he is doing could be wrong. Otherwise, the realization would be quite devastating. I think that is one of the main barriers of entry for veganism. People just don't want to think that they and the people they love and admire may be doing something cruel and unnecesary and have been happily doing so for years.
      I don't think people should beat themselves over it, just understand it and move on, preferably going on the road of becoming vegan or at least reduce consumption if they can't cut it fully. But it's just a very human reaction that we can expect to happen often.

  • @that1monk
    @that1monk 2 года назад +55

    i love you so much, brother.
    keep up the excellent work to cultivate compassion.

  • @mrwallygator501
    @mrwallygator501 2 года назад +54

    The information and the science is out. Now people just have to open their eyes and their hearts and stop this madness once and for all.
    The meat, dairy and egg industries are struggling to come up with valid excuses for all they do. It's evident in their ever more creative and absurd lies and justifications. Also in the dirty tricks they often have to fall back on when dealing with a prepared vegan debater on live TV.
    Great job as always Ed.

  • @dawnshimmerglow2259
    @dawnshimmerglow2259 2 года назад +6

    Ed, once again... your patience and endurance is superhuman. Cramming so much in such a small window was already amazing of you to do.. bless. Truly, bless.

  • @veganfortheanimals6994
    @veganfortheanimals6994 2 года назад +100

    It's a shame (but not surprising) that you had to do this follow-up video Ed, but great job in dismantling his dishonest nonsense

  • @mrwallygator501
    @mrwallygator501 2 года назад +227

    It's never been so easy to go vegan. Its cheaper, it's better for the environment, better for your health, and most importantly, you stop the killing and abuse of animals. There is simpy no excuse for animal abuse.
    "If we could live happy and healthy lives without harming others, why wouldnt't we?"

    • @slideman1249
      @slideman1249 2 года назад

      It’s not cheaper it depends on that but for most part not not better for your health look up earthling Ed physique reddit his so malnourished that’s why he covers up and looks anemic you don’t stop killing or the abuse since vegans are not even 1 percent of the world you guys don’t help lower the supply and demand

    • @mrwallygator501
      @mrwallygator501 2 года назад +10

      @@slideman1249 then look up hench herbivore, joey carbstrong, conscious muscle. Also look up all the super high performance athletes that are thriving on a plant based diet.
      Using one malnourished vegan (And I'm not saying Ed is) is as dumb an argument as it can get, because there are meat eaters that are malnourished as well. So go and do yourself a favor, google some nutrition facts for 5 minutes and un-dumb yourself.

    • @jumpander
      @jumpander 2 года назад +4

      Only if one profits from harming others they wouldn't agree.

    • @slideman1249
      @slideman1249 2 года назад +2

      @@mrwallygator501 those dudes are obviously using peds and Ed is unmalnourised and it’s just not one most vegans do end up malnourished obviously everyone can get manly outside but meat eaters are less likely also you ignored my point about supply and demand infact if you cared you would eat it so it’s not in vain

    • @mrwallygator501
      @mrwallygator501 2 года назад +13

      @@slideman1249 That no demand thing is also such a silly thing to say. Growing up vegetarian and frequently consuming plant based products, I have seen first hand the astonomical increase in vegan friendly products and the much much much improved quality of said products. Even in Mexico, a country full of carnists, Vegan products are popping up every day.
      Just stop with the nonsense and go vegan mate.

  • @leaderence3290
    @leaderence3290 2 года назад +73

    NEVER STAY SILENT. As an advocate for animals, I keep putting the images of what's happening to animals on social media every day. I make informational signs and take them to busy intersections at rush hour. I use TikTok not just to post videos exposing what's happening to animals but I use the LIVE feature just about ever day to spread awareness. The more consumers are confronted with reality, the more chance they go vegan or at least start heading in this direction. I again and again and again inform people of the health benefits and the environmental benefits of going vegan too.

    • @pianoman159
      @pianoman159 2 года назад +7

      That's awesome! I think we(vegans) should all do this. Some people call it being pushy but if they were in the animal's place, they wouldn't complain.

    • @jibjubby
      @jibjubby 2 года назад +5

      Keep it up! ❤ I'm trying to do more like this. Right now, people see ridiculous meat industry propaganda more often than reality, and that's why they believe it. The industry has so much money, so we need to work hard!

    • @FixdalOK
      @FixdalOK 2 года назад +5

      Bloodlust tho...

    • @pianoman159
      @pianoman159 2 года назад +7

      @@FixdalOK 😅engineering is tough, am I rite?

    • @FixdalOK
      @FixdalOK 2 года назад +4

      @@pianoman159 Yeah I'm an engineering student and I'm really trying to maintain a high level of bloodlust.

  • @GrepiBrunette
    @GrepiBrunette 2 года назад +13

    I'm usually not the type of person who comments but Ed you make me do it again. You are such an important part of the vegan community and movement. Your debates are always so knowledgable, respectful and clear. Your patience is on another level. You are a gift for this world. Just wanted to let you know, you and your work is so much appreciated, keep it going! You're a very charismatic speaker and using this power for the animals and for the environment... So sooo good to see. Love your content, work and efforts. Thank you for all that you do!

  • @nezudough2423
    @nezudough2423 2 года назад +53

    I was actually hoping for a video like this after i saw the debate

  • @Shoot4AlarmFire
    @Shoot4AlarmFire 2 года назад +12

    I can't imagine having to get through a debate in which you aren't even really allowed to talk. Really glad you made this video!

  • @alexhazydreams
    @alexhazydreams 2 года назад +10

    Honestly the debate gave me a bit of a headache. Martin didn't take time to adress your points separately, instead going through an insane gish gallup, overloading the audience with a load of incorrect information in hope something sticks. I felt like he was trying to be confusing on purpose and to make you unable to respond to everything in such a short window of time. That plus the lying makes me think he came to this debate with the intent of being a dishonest actor. Great video, keep up with the good work!

  • @lisakristin1810
    @lisakristin1810 2 года назад +28

    It’s so infuriating how the host was so nonchalant about the farmers blatant lie.
    Ed: This is the method used for killing animals
    Host: How horrific!
    Farmer: Yes, that would be horrific but that’s not what happens.
    Host: Phew! I’m relieved now
    Ed: You’re lying though.
    Farmer: I would never lie. I disagree with you demonizing farmers and calling our humane harvesting methods horrific!
    It’s like the host doesn’t even remember what happened 30 seconds ago.

    • @stoicsage2322
      @stoicsage2322 Год назад

      A good host should remain impartial. Their job is to to allow the subject matter to take precedence and leave any biases out of it.

    • @fahrenheigh
      @fahrenheigh Год назад +1

      @@stoicsage2322 Why should a good host allow people to tell blatant lies on TV?

  • @AbolitionAbz
    @AbolitionAbz 2 года назад +8

    We should make lying on TV an illegal offence.

    • @spiral-m
      @spiral-m Год назад +1

      certainly at that level which affects lives of billions of people (and animals and ecosystems)

  • @jackiec.232
    @jackiec.232 2 года назад +12

    Congratulations, Ed! I've been hoping you would respond to those outrageous comments by Martin in that debate. I was shaking my head through everything he said. He's insulting our intelligence. How can he make those obviously untruthful statements and get away with it? Boggles the mind! And now I suppose people will be unknowingly repeating what he says, because it's what they wanted to hear. Thanks for the damage control and everything you do.

  • @datamonster3212
    @datamonster3212 2 года назад +8

    Thank you Ed 🙏🏽

  • @PeiPeisMom
    @PeiPeisMom 2 года назад +24

    I can't imagine what I would've said--I'm not good at reacting on my feet when I'm feeling emotional about the topic and you did a whole lot better in the moment than I would have. There was just so much garbage in what he said it was overwhelming

    • @rondarkman.
      @rondarkman. 2 года назад

      Animals are just food relax

  • @80slimshadys
    @80slimshadys 2 года назад +50

    Saying we need to kill and eat animals because they have nutrients is like saying we need to rip down peoples houses because they have materials we can use for more houses. You don't get to take others stuff when you can get it somewhere else.

    • @jibjubby
      @jibjubby 2 года назад +4

      Wow, excellent analogy!

    • @christianhorn1999
      @christianhorn1999 2 года назад +2

      humans are pretty nutrious. they are already made of what humans need.

    • @jibjubby
      @jibjubby 2 года назад +4

      @@christianhorn1999 And they're more gullible too, show them an advert that says being eaten is part of the circle of life and they'll sign right up!

    • @christianhorn1999
      @christianhorn1999 2 года назад +3

      @@jibjubby i bet most of them are free range and organic

    • @rondarkman.
      @rondarkman. 2 года назад

      @Christian Horn
      Nope I buy caged eggs and veal, animals are here for me

  • @dstarley
    @dstarley 2 года назад +12

    One of my biggest frustrations in life is people in positions of relative power making assertions and statements that are not backed up by science or even contradict it. You must be constantly thinking of how best to respond to these without coming across in the wrong way, such a difficult line to tread.

  • @eklein89
    @eklein89 2 года назад +78

    So glad we have Ed to expose these industries for what they are. Vegan 1.5 years (thanks to Ed!) and never going back.

    • @PSVGNBBF
      @PSVGNBBF 2 года назад +2

      💚

    • @slideman1249
      @slideman1249 2 года назад

      Look up earthling Ed physique reddit you still think it’s healthy your prov bult like that too a lot of vegans are

    • @thegratefulsteve
      @thegratefulsteve 2 года назад +2

      Congratulations comrade

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 2 года назад +2

      He’s the man isn’t he?

    • @lw9553
      @lw9553 2 года назад

      Give it a bit more time and you'll realise what's going on.

  • @mayflower2158
    @mayflower2158 2 года назад +4

    I'm so glad you had a chance to respond to the things you weren't given the chance to during the televised discussion.
    Thanks again for all you do Ed ❤️

  • @felixlerouxmusic1159
    @felixlerouxmusic1159 2 года назад +17

    As always, you are awesome Ed, you just mastered the art of fluent speaking and flawless reasonning. Keep up the good work!

  • @36ELRIC
    @36ELRIC 2 года назад +2

    Really glad you made this response video I was shouting out for it. I was really frustrated with the TV interview as I have no doubt you were

  • @thebowandbullet
    @thebowandbullet 2 года назад +9

    Farmer and animal ag propaganda is so transparent and obvious once we know the truth. Sadly, too many are still duped and unaware.

  • @elizabethmahony7010
    @elizabethmahony7010 2 года назад +19

    Thank you for your well thought out argument. I don't know how you stay so calm when speaking with people with such an obvious agenda. I just want to smack them! 😒

    • @GlossRabban
      @GlossRabban 2 года назад

      Because Ed knows, we should not sink to their level :)
      Not that I do not understand what you mean ;)

  • @oliverpanabe9183
    @oliverpanabe9183 4 месяца назад +5

    Thanks Ed for debunking clown after clown in our fight against animal exploitation.❤

  • @veganbadass_
    @veganbadass_ 2 года назад +34

    I absolutely love everything you do. You're incredible. Keep up the great work.

  • @sharonhall1067
    @sharonhall1067 2 года назад +4

    From a happy, healthy vegan in southern California, USA: Well said, Ed. Keep up the good work.

  • @giialiinh
    @giialiinh 2 года назад +8

    His environmental arguements are utterly nonsensical. It's 21st century and yet stating that raising cattles for food is a good thing is still a thing...

  • @jonascooper759
    @jonascooper759 2 года назад +10

    Trying to reason with someone like Martin is impossible he would still say a gas chamber is humane whilst being led to one himself

  • @johannespichler2624
    @johannespichler2624 2 года назад +2

    Great debate! Great video! Thank you for your work, I am a big fan! Greetings from Austria

  • @Edaryion
    @Edaryion 2 года назад +10

    I like the video quality improvement, the lighting is great & I love the background!

  • @zoeemmerson6183
    @zoeemmerson6183 2 года назад +5

    Makes me mad when the assumption is that a vegan diet has to be 100% balanced all the time. Do we really believe that every omnivore is eating a perfectly balanced diet and never needs any advice?? If so why are there campaigns like 5-a-day and an nhs website telling folk how to cut down on sugar?!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @marikabilska1382
    @marikabilska1382 2 года назад +36

    Yesss I was hoping you'd make this! He was so full of shit!

  • @juliewake4585
    @juliewake4585 2 года назад +7

    I was expecting this repost from you Ed: I know you wouldn’t allow him to get away with it. Well done.

  • @piaogilvie8463
    @piaogilvie8463 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you Ed.
    As always you're so very well spoken and precise
    💚

  • @misty_oar
    @misty_oar 2 года назад +6

    And why haven't farmers ever heard of greenhouses? "hOw ArE wE mEaNt tO FeEd EvErYoNe?" 🤦‍♂️

    • @medinabello19
      @medinabello19 2 года назад

      Vertical farming is a great solution. It's automatically organic too.

  • @VeganSemihCyprus33
    @VeganSemihCyprus33 2 года назад +148

    Anyone who is defending the "livestock" industry should be put through what the animals are going through, even just for a few minutes. I am sure the world would turn vegan in a heartbeat.

    • @freshairkaboom8171
      @freshairkaboom8171 2 года назад +16

      If they were only put through it for a few minutes with no lasting damage, after they were done they would simply claim it was just fine and then proceed to going back to eating animals. That's how these carnists' brains work.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi 2 года назад +1

      @@freshairkaboom8171 they should go through those mutilation procedures

    • @slideman1249
      @slideman1249 2 года назад +5

      Most people know it’s cruel but we need food

    • @cyansalvatore6011
      @cyansalvatore6011 2 года назад +26

      @@slideman1249 Food can be obtained in other ways than suffering. And yes, food that provides full range of nutrition human body needs. I'm not talking about people that are heavily allergic or live in poverty and for example rely on animals for milk or eggs to feed themselves or tribes in africa or antarctica, I'm talking about those who CAN go vegan, those are the people that should go vegan.

    • @quantumpanic
      @quantumpanic 2 года назад +9

      Wow interesting idea. I think if we really wanted the meat industry to stay, I'd want governments to issue a "meat eating license" but in order to apply for it, one must first go through whatever the animal they were going to eat go through, even if only a fraction of the experience. I'm sure only psychopaths would want to pass getting that license just to eat meat.

  • @cloudysensation8406
    @cloudysensation8406 2 года назад +2

    Splendid response, and very educational! I was honestly surprised that Martin would lie like that, and then double down on it.. Thank you for not letting that slip by and addressing it right then and there, there will certainly be many who watched that segment and will have put more thought into this.

  • @arnaudmorin7413
    @arnaudmorin7413 2 года назад +2

    The main problem with these TV debates, apart from the ignorance or outright moral corruption of the opponent debaters, is that these journalists are not doing their job. Thank you Ed for your amazing activism work against the greed and baseness of corporate lobbies, as well as the wilful ignorance of the population and the incompetence of a lot of the media!

  • @DoctorOnkelap
    @DoctorOnkelap 2 года назад +3

    Can some sort of legal action been taken against Martin or the network for (allowing) public misinformation?

  • @Matheus-si8vq
    @Matheus-si8vq 2 года назад +26

    Hey everyone, Ed is a legend but let's also support activists with small platforms such as The Juggling Vegan. She has just finished a 30-day challenge interviewing people about veganism. She is really good at talking to people, please just watch a video, hit the like button, anything will send these videos to more people who need to receive the vegan message.
    If we make small activists grow, veganism will grow.

    • @Matheus-si8vq
      @Matheus-si8vq 2 года назад

      @Anon Anon ruclips.net/video/wuibBvqWObQ/видео.html
      Here is a good one

    • @Teneab
      @Teneab 2 года назад

      Self promo

    • @Matheus-si8vq
      @Matheus-si8vq 2 года назад +1

      @@Teneab nope

    • @jonjonwp
      @jonjonwp 2 года назад

      @Anon Anon ruclips.net/user/TheJugglingVeganvideos

  • @macaw6718
    @macaw6718 2 года назад +2

    hi, i just want to thank you ed for your honesty, compassion and knowledge on what i believe to be the way forward for the future of the human race.
    kind regards.

  • @allisonreece02
    @allisonreece02 2 года назад +2

    Brilliantly simple points you spoke on, as usual. But also, the One Direction clip in your video!!! My worlds are colliding!

  • @Anna-co4bd
    @Anna-co4bd 2 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for everything you do Ed!

  • @dorihungerbuhler7885
    @dorihungerbuhler7885 2 года назад +5

    Well done, Ed. it's unfortunate you are not given the time during the debate to explain these very important points.

  • @DJLirnl
    @DJLirnl 2 года назад +2

    Great work as always Ed .👍

  • @emileocharon6025
    @emileocharon6025 2 года назад +2

    YOUR A FUXKING LEGEND PLEASE DONT CHANGE!!

  • @ChaseAvior
    @ChaseAvior 2 года назад +12

    Slaughter is animal cruelty. Meat should be illegal.

    • @angycucumber4319
      @angycucumber4319 2 года назад +1

      you can't just make it illegal. Food chain will suffer. We need to increase the wild predator population first

    • @ChaseAvior
      @ChaseAvior 2 года назад +3

      @@angycucumber4319 No, most animals people eat are bred and farmed, not wild and hunted. Plus, banning meat will obviously happen first in more progressive cities and states and grow from there into a federal law against slaughter.

    • @eklein89
      @eklein89 2 года назад +5

      @@angycucumber4319 Our food system has nothing to do with "wild predators." Cows, pigs, and chickens are artificially bred into existence on factory farms. This accounts for 99% of all meat eaten in the U.S.

    • @angycucumber4319
      @angycucumber4319 2 года назад

      @@ChaseAvior what will happen to the animals which were exploited

    • @angycucumber4319
      @angycucumber4319 2 года назад

      @@ChaseAvior ah, you're American. That makes sense

  • @thomasjohnson308
    @thomasjohnson308 2 года назад +2

    Thanks Ed! You continue to do great work and display admirable patience. That dude must have been very frustrating to talk to.

  • @ramiolsen
    @ramiolsen 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic video, Ed, this might've been your best and most concise one to date!

  • @melizbeth1
    @melizbeth1 2 года назад +7

    Agreed & I fully know Ed is a gift to us all on this earth. And... Rene Descartes hugely (and so wrongly) impressed the world with his 'I think therefore I am' . He also believed animals were like clocks, mechanical & dependent & unable to feel. His beliefs & practices are still taught in Universities all over... Being taught that humans are above or entitled or here to dominate (Biblical 'Dominion') is blindly accepted and thank goodness many are waking up to compassion. So I don't think Mr. Martin is 'lying'. He believes the bull just as the majority still do & he's caught in the capitalist trap of commodities & not seeing that animals are so very much like us. He may not even understand that humans are animals. Misinformation is everywhere & if a few 'get it' here, that's brilliant. Thank you Ed for opening eyes, educating so many & exposing the ignorance in our world. We are raised to follow not lead & more are finding the courage to think for themselves, and to 'feel' compassion for all beings. The earth was made for all beings not just humans. Einstein was in such the minority of his time & veganism is growing. Ed is decreasing that minority and one day the majority of humans will be vegan. Step by step. Each of us helping the most vulnerable.

    • @Knuckles-4
      @Knuckles-4 2 года назад

      I’m a human secular but everytime I hear atheist declare Descartes as a great genius, I remember reading what you said @mare ,that animals were mere robots,he took his wife’s pet dog and to prove his point,tied her up and dissected her alive,while she screamed,the wife left him after this

  • @ofirsportage
    @ofirsportage 2 года назад +6

    It is actually quite ironic to watch the background Martin choose to put, in a conversation he's tested for transparency and reliability.
    I was almost waiting for him to say : "If you look behind me, you can see how everything's perfect and nothing's wrong".

    • @EclipseDj
      @EclipseDj 2 года назад

      a literal veil of lies. In the original you can hear a large vehicle beeping, so I wonder how truly idyllic his backdrop was in reality? Hmm?

  • @135lm135
    @135lm135 3 месяца назад +2

    Such a great video, everything so well put as always! Thank you so much for all you do, Ed!

  • @MeJustAimy
    @MeJustAimy 2 года назад +2

    I love you Ed, never change, never be quiet and never give up!!
    We’ll get there at some point. .. 🧚🏽

  • @GhostRider-ce3eb
    @GhostRider-ce3eb 2 года назад +3

    It's really amazing how you are able to stay so calm and reasonable, while he's telling lies about these industries, thanks so much for your important work!

  • @jjbenna
    @jjbenna 2 года назад +26

    Ask him to show us the alleged animal welfare.

  • @tylerspain1027
    @tylerspain1027 2 года назад +2

    Keep up the great information! 👍

  • @didakoko3723
    @didakoko3723 2 года назад +2

    So glad you've made this video, Ed. It was so frustrating to watch! He was also given so much more time than you, I was quite annoyed to be honest

  • @uncledaybkk
    @uncledaybkk 2 года назад +3

    I love your content Ed. Thanks for all that you do. Peace and Love.

  • @albawaterhouse
    @albawaterhouse 2 года назад +5

    I love how you always address health and environmental issues/questions without losing sight of what veganism is truly about. You always go back to the ethics, and I find that so so great.

  • @jakhan4203
    @jakhan4203 2 года назад +1

    Stunning replies...hope they have you back to put all of this across 🤞🤞

  • @bookishdaydreams4993
    @bookishdaydreams4993 2 года назад +2

    Such good, logical responses as always!

  • @reesecarr2105
    @reesecarr2105 2 года назад +8

    I wish they would have given you more time where you could have addressed these issues to him, I would of loved to hear his response, like always ED , GREAT JOB!! thank you for defending these helpless animals!!! KEEP EXPOSING THE TRUTH!♥♥♥♥

  • @Rhonda2580
    @Rhonda2580 2 года назад +7

    It’s a pretty funny contention, to say that people don’t have time to figure out how to eat a balanced, plant based diet. Of course, it is ridiculously easy to figure out, as Ed said. But, also, it would probably help if our governments weren’t so entrenched in supporting animal agriculture at all costs. An example of this, in the U.S., is the “food pyramid” that our government has been advocating for decades. It isn’t based on science, and certainly not on what is truly a healthy way to eat. It is, instead, based on what the government representatives are pressured to do by lobbyists for animal ag.

  • @nurnichtausliebeweinen2240
    @nurnichtausliebeweinen2240 2 года назад +2

    I find you amazingly calm and, as always very convincing. I found him to be desperately selling lies to keep a cruel and unnecessary industry alive. Wishing you strength for your important work!

  • @ilikeoptter
    @ilikeoptter 2 года назад +1

    Ed, I have an entirely different outlook because of your message. You helped me become a better person. Thank you. Thank you.

  • @Melonimi
    @Melonimi 2 года назад +3

    Thanks Ed, you are an inspiration. Keep up the good work!

  • @justingregoire4973
    @justingregoire4973 2 года назад +4

    Expertly done, as usual. Thanks again, Ed, for all that you do.

  • @boldbodyfitnessllc7120
    @boldbodyfitnessllc7120 2 года назад +1

    You are so well spoken and I hope that more and more people continue watching your content and thinking rationally about these topics. Thank you, Ed!

  • @cristianchelaru8053
    @cristianchelaru8053 2 года назад +1

    Unfortunately marketing is the problem in the food industry.

  • @Bluegrassman12
    @Bluegrassman12 2 года назад +15

    Ed, I’m a huge supporter of yours always have been and I love your style of activism. I’m not one to typically share my opinion to you or Joey, but I think if you call them out on the spot and are just a tad more aggressive just a tad. It will make them look like the liars they are. I truly believe that would help us shine. Bless you and don’t be afraid to interrupt who you’re debating when they are lying. They can’t argue with facts

    • @valeriejhopkins9185
      @valeriejhopkins9185 2 года назад +7

      I think there are a couple of points here, Joe (1) Ed was part of a short slot on a tv programme and the interviewer was very much in control of who got how much airtime within that slot. She was trying to give them a similar amount of time as well as covering her agenda of questions. That was a fair way of making sure that viewers heard both sides. (2) I think Ed makes more of an impression by his polite, measured and reasonable approach. He is assertive but not aggressive. If he had interrupted Martin or shouted him down out of turn, public response may not have been favourable to him? Just my thoughts. :)

    • @Bluegrassman12
      @Bluegrassman12 2 года назад +2

      @@valeriejhopkins9185 I agree on not shouting. Just thinking when he’s out right lying to jump in and Call him out on it (respectful). No one knows more facts than Ed. Check out Joeys last debate on TV. As I mentioned I’m not saying Ed should be like Joey, but a little bit calling them out on their BS when they’re spewing it goes along way I believe . Thank you for your reply and I don’t disagree with you

    • @Ermude10
      @Ermude10 2 года назад +3

      ​@@Bluegrassman12 He actually did. Ed explicitly called him out on his lies, so the guy tried to gloss over what he said by talking faster with some shit like "actually it's not all that bad" mixed in.

  • @Orlagh
    @Orlagh 2 года назад +3

    You're a bit sassier in this video Ed and I'm here for it 👏🌱

    • @Silvercentipede
      @Silvercentipede Год назад

      Rightttt??!! He still does it in a way which isn't vicious or cruel and it's just perfect 👌👌 his emotional intelligence and charisma is everything 👌

  • @robyngoldman-grunseich2912
    @robyngoldman-grunseich2912 2 года назад +2

    This is a great follow up to the other video! Thank you for staying cool under pressure and the work you do to provide fact based points in support of the elimination of needless animal suffering!

  • @spiral-m
    @spiral-m 2 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot. It is frankly obscene that such people with responsibility are dragging us over the abyss through their lies and deception because of selfish interests. System change!!

  • @betadecay6503
    @betadecay6503 2 года назад +6

    Fuck sake, Ed why didn't you tell me this sooner? I've been mixing dog faeces in my morning smoothies for months and only now you tell me I don't need to? Don't I feel silly!

    • @medinabello19
      @medinabello19 2 года назад

      At least it's vegan mate. I think.

  • @vegangaze
    @vegangaze 2 года назад +9

    It was pain

    • @katelynmason9179
      @katelynmason9179 2 года назад

      How were you so early lmao

    • @vegangaze
      @vegangaze 2 года назад +3

      @@katelynmason9179 got a notif while I was looking at memes, classic

  • @Eluveitieprivat
    @Eluveitieprivat 2 года назад +1

    Thank you, sir! So well said. I only with they‘d give you the time to say this on TV! 🙈🙄
    But good thing… the change, the process is on snd we‘re getting there.
    Keep on! 🙏🏻💪🏻

  • @northerncoloradotransparen1454
    @northerncoloradotransparen1454 11 месяцев назад +2

    When I used to eat meat I was lacking in several minerals and vitamins causing restless legs. They wanted to cauterize my veins to fix a 20 year problem. When I changed to a whole foods plant based diet lifestyle I said goodbye to the pills and restless legs and 6 years later still going.... All the doctors, time, and money wasted when all I needed was proper nutrition?

  • @Squidley32
    @Squidley32 2 года назад +5

    As always, bringing serious facts to baseless arguments. Love ya Ed

  • @will532
    @will532 2 года назад +16

    Truly bizarre. He has to straight up lie to make his industry sound ok.

  • @TenTempeh
    @TenTempeh 2 года назад +2

    Great video. Thanks ed!

  • @kristinasekacova6061
    @kristinasekacova6061 Год назад +1

    I love this, so nice to hear some people care, so nice to see the change happening... great job!

    • @fredrickpeters1628
      @fredrickpeters1628 Год назад +1

      Similarly, the schools' egg hatching programs don't show what happens to the male chick's, not do they teach the rest of the "life cycle." Great comment.

  • @pegbuckner5074
    @pegbuckner5074 2 года назад +6

    I am your 1,000th like. And I want to thank you more than 1,000 times for opening my eyes to being vegan 🌱 Thank you!! Much love to you Ed!! 🙏🏻🌈🌎

  • @furynotes
    @furynotes 2 года назад +3

    Yeah. I have zinc supplements. That comes from leaves.

  • @_mcck
    @_mcck 2 года назад +2

    Amazing content as always.

  • @gallectee6032
    @gallectee6032 2 года назад +2

    I really wanted to see your reply to the food security argument, and you did a phenomenal job! (he said most of the land that is used to grow food in the UK is used to grow animal feed (and that they also import a ton of animal feed - meaning it could get a lot worse), which is the actual culprit to food insecurity in the UK. So the animals farmers are blaming their selves essentially).