How Vader will DESTROY Kenobi Now
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- In Obi-Wan Kenobi, we are about to get a massive duel with Vader against his former master, Obi-Wan. I think it is going to be insane and go completely opposite to how he (Kenobi) thinks it will. Seeking redemption for Anakin, Kenobi will try to redeem him now that he knows he’s alive. I think Vader has other plans…
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Whilst I didn't like the Grand Inquisitor getting a lightsaber to the chest I think from a story point it will give Vader a reason to step in and would also give us a reason to go to the Inquisitor base. I can't lie, I hope reva gets killed by either the Grand Inquisitor when he's healed or Vader kills her for her disobedience
I hope Vader does the Job he has multiple reasons, killing her. Especially her knowing he is Anakin is one of them. Really want to see the fear in her when he does so
"You have failed me inquisitor"
In the Leaks it says that Vader will kill her
I do think Reva will get killed either by Vader or The Fifth Brother due to her attitude and authority problem
@@linusvr2873 what was the reason for you spoiling it now?
I love how Ewan has actually said in interviews that he was legitimately terrified when he was first in a scene with Hayden in the Vader suit because he's so imposing. I hope he portrays that fear in the show. Lucasfilm have done an awesome job of making Vader appear terrifying to others, especially Jedi, in Rebels, Rogue One and Fallen Order - this show has to be the pinnacle of that.
Exactly on point, this man is very terrifying
Yes.
Judging by his acting so far I bet it will be amazing
@@tomclaydon92 i just watched the episode. The portrayal was great, but Vader was just so weak.... It's really weird. Obi wan just has a death star worth of plot Armour
Darth Vader was toying with Obi-wan he didn’t want to kill him yet.he wants kenobi to get stronger so he can prove he is stronger than him
I entirely agree obi wan has spent 10 years in a desert using no force abilities or his light saber. Whereas vader has spent the last 10 years hunting jedi and using his abilities constantly. Plus obi wan will be holding back due to his regret
Good point
Why would obi wan hold back lol because if he holds back then he will just die because vader/anakin has literally become so powerful so obi wan will need to fight back if he is gonna survive since vader will be at his peak prime form as hayden described vader in the obi wan series as “driven, vengeful and unstoppable”.
@@roveltz Because he loves Anakin and when Qui Gon will communicate with him and give him a sense of assurance and guidance - thats why he holds bak lol.
worst comment and idea ever. lol lol
@@carn1fex_ well we saw in the battle of mustafar that obi wan loved anakin and he still fought him and cut his limbs off so is this what you call love 💀 Darth Vader for sure will try to get revenge this time round but we will see what happens but obi wan will still survive tho he probably will escape from vader without being injured because obi wan was obviously alive when we saw him with 19 yr old luke as a healthy old man so yh
@@roveltz Ob1 would definitely hold back if he knows it was Anakin. Like he did in the first fight, he doesn't wanna kill Vader. The thing he probably wishes he could do most in the galaxy is just reason with him. That's why Kenobi was on the defensive in their duels. Kenobi was holding back. Which should've gave Anakin the edge, but Anakin was just too stupidly full of himself.
Obi-wan held back in the first duel. Didn't die. Matter of fact, most Jedi hold back in their duels so it shouldn't be surprising. Jedi are supposed to have restraint.
I also think kenobi will concede a big defeat the first time he duels with vader, coming not from a place of "fighting mentality" but love and hope as you said. Maybe his defeat will lead quigon to finally commune with him after which kenobi might go through the regrouping phase. I hope there is a second duel.
That is sort of what I was thinking. Most simplest terms, They’ll fight, Kenobi will attempt to get through to Anakin once again, and fail again. Kenobi then realizes HE didn’t fail, and that Anakin is truly lost (for now) and he’ll come back around to his ways, and finally communicate with Jinn.
this aged well
I think obi wan will try to bring Anakin back, as vader says to Luke " Obi wan once thought as you do", in revenge of the sith Obi wan just wanted to destroy the sith, so it implies that at some point Obi wan will think the same way as Luke in ep. VI and will try that Ankin come with him, but will fail and vader will show him that all its left is anger,as Obi wan says " He is more a machine now", so clearly he will fail, and realise that Anakin is dead and that's what he tell Luke, because he really thought Anakin was dead after the duel that will happen in this show. yeah i think Qui Gon will teach Obi wan the imortality path and will give hope to Obi wan. In ep. iV we see a confident, powerfull Obi wan far away from this version, so the next 10 years will make obi wan one of the most powerful jedi ever lived.
That's just too good idea.
I hope you're right 👍
(But it's Disney SW so I don't want to have too high hopes.)
That's a very good point. I never realized it with that line in ROTJ. I wonder what Vader meant in ANH by saying "When *I left you* I was but the *learner*, now I am the master." Vader didn't left him on Mustafar, it was the other way around. Maybe he meant the fact he left Kenobi for Sidious? But Anakin was no longer his padawan at that point, they became "brothers" in Clone Wars 2003 (no longer canon but I think it still fits in canon). So I think Vader was talking about something that will be shown in Kenobi series. Maybe Vader will learn something from Obi-Wan? Idk.
I think mentioning Padme’s last words to Kenobi to Vader would be perfect for that. If that fails, that would better convince Kenobi as to why Anakin couldn’t be redeemed after that and to better match up with that ROTJ line. It would need to fail since it would remind Vader of the awful things he did to save her and it being all for nothing since she died because of him. Then there’s how he wouldn’t be able to let go off the hatred he has for Kenobi.
I just don't want them to ruin the line 'when i left you i was but a learner, now i am the master'.....that line needs to persist and make sense. Also, 'we meet again at last' implies a long overdue meeting, if they write this properly that could have significant impact.
Still would be 9 years later. Also obiwan must see Vader he doesn’t know what he looks like before ep iv
I feel like it would be good for Kenobi to be crushed in the first duel as he is very broken and basically a void of hope. I think in the next fight he will get destroyed, but maybe Qui Gon speaks to him and he goes and SLAYS like OBI WAN KENOBI!
I think Kenobi will win but by the skin of his teeth. His injuries will lead to his physical decline into Alec’s Kenobi.
@@brynstarkiller7419 Why should he win? It doesn't make sense to me. I don't like watching them fight at all, but if they do it at least needs to make some sende - where Vader crushes him. Or let it be a draw, I can't buy this Kenobi beating Vader.
6:28 Same. Same my man. I always enjoy talking about prequels and originals. This story is so deep and tragic on so many intricate levels.
I think the entire series should be based around Obi-Wan finding himself and his abilities again, and the climax should be the fight with Vader. In A New Hope, Vader says "a presence I haven't felt since....." meaning their most recent duel, must have ended in something climactic.
He also said "last we met I was the pupil, now I am the master" implying that he was Obi-Wan's student when they last met, and he was now a Sith master."
Although it could be re-interpreted as being he was the Sith pupil...
@@aussiewanderer6304 he didn’t say pupil , he said “Last we met, I was BUT THE LEARNER, now I am the master.”
@@omerginawi9768 he said when I left you not when we met so that means that they can definitely canonically have another fight
@@hawx-30if obi-wan loses it could even mean that when they last met obi-wan saw him as his pupil and now after his lost obi-wan has to acknowledge him as the master.
@@aussiewanderer6304 where did you get pupil from lol. he said “when i left you i was but the learner, now i am the master”
I think a line from Obi-Wan as hes on his knees "what would Padme think of you now" might just cause the moments hesitation from Vader that Obi-Wan needs in the first duel to escape. I think you right he'll get pummelled the first round and that will be Obi-Wan's wake up that Anakin is gone and galvanize Obi-Wan for round two. Maybe see a 6month time jump for Obi-Wan to actually go train.
There’s not going to be a time jump in Star Wars show lol. This ain’t anime
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I think it would be great and emotional if Obi-Wan tells Vader about Padme’s last words to him to try redeeming him one last time before he fully believes Anakin can never return to the light. It better match up with Vader’s quote in ROTJ where he tells Luke that Obi-Wan once thought as he did. Vader would need to refuse or believe he’s cannot be redeemed because mentioning Padme would just remind him of every awful thing he did to save her and how it was all for nothing along with Vader not being able to let go off the hatred he has for Obi-Wan.
@@zampy8706 dude thinks Obi Wan is gonna go hop in the hyperbolic time chamber or some shit lololol
Are you people dumb? Vader says to Obi-Wan in a New Hope that THE LAST TIME WE MET I WAS THE STUDENT. ???? Are we just gonna pretend that didn't happen?
I want to see Obi Wan realize that Anakin is more "machine than man", I think we are going to see that scene judging by the trailer...
Although, Obi-Wan's comment was after he had become a force ghost, implying he could see more.
I agree perhaps he will try like Luke did to talk to Anakin and fail possibly watching Vader kill innocent lives that would make him believe he's gone.
I think he's gonna see a glimmer of Anakin in there but then see it get lost to an absolute monster
I dont see how Vader and Kenobi meet again. In a New Hope they said "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner, but now I am the master." This indicates to me that this is their first meeting since Mustafar. I suppose you could say "we meet again" as in we've met a few times, but to me that means the first time since Mustafar.
But how will this then explain episode 4, when Vader says "I was but the learner, now I am the master".
Ye. My thoughts exactly. They should have a rematch if Kenobi gets manhandled after a training arc xD. One where he wins.
Obi gon' fuck him up
Because he understands the true nature of the force, and has mastered the dark side of it. Where as Obi Wan had mastered the light side as he will defeat Vader in this show.
@@WildWeavile the true nature of the force is balance but I get that it’s a quote.
@@WildWeavile Master the dark side is a stretch. If anyone mastered the dark side, it was Palpatine. Everyone else is just a pawn who he only taught what he allowed them to know.
"I've been waiting for you Obi-Wan....we meet again at last. The circle is now complete, when I left you I was but the learner...now I am the master." From that very important quote which we hear in ANH...it sounds like Vader will have much conflict which I believe Obi-Wan will sense and play on. I believe Obi-Wan and Vader will fight a 2nd time in the show and the fight will come to a stalemate where Vader is forced to leave Obi-Wan due to some event that could kill Vader (think planet exploding, lava flow...something). That would tie it up nicely towards the quote Vader gives Obi in ANH.
Is it possible that Qui-Gon might say “Anakin!” Mid fight just before Vader goes to end Kenobi? That would even startle Vader enough for Kenobi to escape
Or fricken Yoda shows up out of know where, that's would definitely throw him off lol extremely unlikely though.
Please no
Really don't like this idea. It would undermine the line
"If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine"
Just don't want vader to know the will can survive beyond death.
@@chungyang9925 Vader has heard qui gon though, he just didn't understand. If you read brotherhood. Novel anakin always heard qui gon even in ep 2. Nothing changes him hearing it here
I doubt it. At this point, nobody is making Vader stop aside from Luke. Even Ahsoka and Ob1 couldn't make him chill.
"Your powers are weak, old man!" -- I think if they logically connect this reunion with Ep IV, then Vader will have to see Obi-Wan now with a relatively normal sense of his powers compared to the final duel. There's no way Vader will just let him leave without having to use his powers to defend himself and escape. Luke cut himself off from the Force, but then was able to reconnect. Obi-Wan just needs a little time and reflection. I think if Qui-Gon does finally answer him, it will be to help him find the focus to fully remember and revive his connection to the Force.
Man i just wanted to see obi-wan absolutely destroy Riva at the end of episode 2
HE would have got folded in ep 2! He had to focus so hard to use the force just to save leia!
@@WildWeavile if he practices a little he has defeat her easily, he's just rusty at the moment
@@WildWeavile yeah obi wan closed himself to the force, so he had to open up again, the inquisitors were at a few meters from him in tatooin and didn't felt him, and Riva felt Obi wan now after he saved Leia so did Vader, When you connect to the force you leave a "finger print" that can be felt by other force users, and vader and Riva begin to fell Obi wan again
@@WildWeavile no way. In rebels maul can fight the inquisitors in a 1vs3 and win and obi wan defeated maul twice. Admittedly this occurs later in the time line but if anything obi wan should be even weaker than he is now at that point as he's older and has spent even more time using little force and light saber combat. Obi wan beats reva
Since moses was in press everywhere with ewan and hayden, her character is most likely considered an important one and i doubt that shell be killed off before 6
I've said it in a previous video. Vader loses for me, hence the line "when I met you I was but the learner, now I am the master". That is referring to himself as a Sith Lord. He is not referring to himself as Anakin, because Anakin was not a Padawon at that point.
Alternatively, Obi Wan will try to rescue him, that is a given. Vader to Luke "Obi Wan, once thought as you do" That was on the Death Star when Luke wanted to turn him back.
So one of two things will happen:
1. Obi Wan beats him, Vader is full of rage as he has not mastered the ways of the Sith (Machine limitations etc)
2. Vader is still not fully evil at this point, feels weakness and allows Obi Wan to escape. He vows to never let the light surface again in the future. Hence, he was the learner and that good in him surfaced, just like it did for Luke.
LOVE the Rocky reference. His and Mic’s relationship was always my favorite
Hey Theory & SW community, love the videos! In Episode 4 Vader says “when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master” before their duel on the Death Star. I feel like this implies that the last time they met would have been on Mustafar, however now that they fight in Kenobi, and Vader is much more powerful than Obi-Wan, this line from Vader makes much less sense. What do you think about this, would love to hear if you have an explanation :)
It's so weird to me that some people don't even want Kenobi and Vader to clash because it would not be considered canon cus they only duel in a new hope.
It wouldn't be weird if you had an inkling of respect to George Lucas or the story he created? People have been playing in the sandbox for nearly 40 years without stepping on the toes of canon. Disney comes in and starts stomping immediately. One piece of canon after another. Things that people loved about the story gets changed easily to this and that with seemingly little thought or skill applied to the writing. That is probably why people are so apprehensive to them monkeying around in G-Canon so much ( because they, Disney, don't care about canon (no matter the IP)).
It makes the ANH encounter less impactful now. Now when I see their fight in the movie its gonna be just another battle between these fellas
@@Jays_dead_cat it does not imo. it makes it much more impactful because in a new hope obi wan recognizes the suit and knows who vader is immediately. I always didnt like that, and when people explain it "ahhhhh he felt him in the force" thats bologna lol. I think this makes that encounter way better and makes it make so much more sense.
@@imvellyy dude for real I’m glad you’re not like the average 12 year old saying some shot like” but he can/she can feel the force” the same when Rena said death Vader was an akin right away all the 12 year olds “but the force” it’s like we might as well say she gave Vader a blow job let’s use any reason since we’re making up stuff
@@imvellyy Someone gets it. Kenobi does not seem fazed that Anikan is in that suit. He even goes as far as being a troll to call him 'Darth'- seeing he had tendencies for one liners in the PT and TCW. Based on his reaction in ANH, he faced Vader before. The writers just have to do some fancy footwork around some dialogue so they dont butcher continunity.
Does it even make sense for Obi and Vader to meet? To quote Vader from Ep. 4: "When I left you I was but the leaner, now *I* am the master". This should be referring to the time when Anakin was still Obiwan‘s student. They could turn this around by saying that by "learner" he meant that he was still weak and a leaner of the sith way when he met Obiwan during the Kenobi-series
I hope we see the inquisitors bow to Vader scared for their life
Especially Reva
@@TheHolySacred-Cow reva is not real sith and inquisitor. she's just mad full of hate dark jedi bcuz she is so blinded by revenge and hate , even sith wasnt this stupid and reckless
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it i never said reva was a sith and neither did the other guy
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Inquisitors are not Sith so...duh.
@@TheHolySacred-Cow yeah
It wouldn't make sense to have them fight at all. But instead have them meet and Obi Wan try and talk to him, but Vader some how just destroying him with the force, instead of a duel, and I will explain why in a second. However, if they do make them fight, it would make sense to have 2 different fights in which Obi wan wins the second time. And it all has to do with this line from a new hope: "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner, but now I am the master."
Tbh, it DOES make more sense that Obi-Wan shouldn’t have to fight Vader, but if he absolutely has to, maybe he’s able to confuse Vader. Make him doubt for even a minute what he’s doing. Maybe a Jedi/padawan moment where Vader simply thinks about what he’s doing, giving Obi-Wan a chance to escape. At this point, I personally don’t think Obi-Wan is a match for Vader on a good day. Kenobi has to realize that dealing with Vader is now Luke’s destiny. Obi-Wan will hopefully realize (maybe through Qui-Gon) that the way to possibly turn or defeat Vader is through Luke.
I don't think Obi-Wan will "beat" Vader in their potential 2nd duel, but he will definitely outsmart him.
To outsmart him would be to beat him...Vader could be more powerful, but a smarter fighter can beat a stronger appointment, depending on how much smarter they are. So that would still be considered beating him.
@Rough Collies Rock Even if you count Mustafar, the line wouldn't make sense if Vader beats him in both duels here. Because the second duel should be the last time they see each other until a New Hope.
@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 According to what logic or canon?
@@AlexFarleyMusic According to real world logic in actual fights. Also according to Obi-wan and Vader's first duel in episode 3. Vader was more powerful, but he became so arrogant that he made dumb decisions in the fight, which lead to his downfall. Because Kenobi stayed smart, kept a cooler head and got an opening.
I disagree Vader is meant to be calm, ruthless but mostly calculative Anakin is a genius stragetist Vader is the same person and combined with his attitude ever since he became a sith he should be the one to outsmart obi wan not the opposite.
Really hoping for the final fight, Kenobi busts out both his, and Anakin's lightsaber to take Vader down. Something spectacular has to happen for Vader to tell Kenobi that when he last left him he was but a learner in A New Hope.
What would be even crazier is if Ahsoka was the one that had to train Kenobi in duel wielding blades, but that would probably be too much.
Also shout out to the guy who still wants Plo Koon to be alive. That would be interesting if they had to team up or something using Force Judgement to keep Vader at bay.
ive seen people say this will ruin a new hope for them. but this makes it much better for me. Ben recognizes vaders suit and everything about him in a new hope. he never mentions or asks whats with the suit, he just continues on. I always wanted that explained better and personally I think this would be the BEST way to explain it.
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I love how passionate you are about Star Wars, it’s amazing the well of knowledge you have. Every time you mention a book I have to go buy it cause I am like “I have to know!”
Well, this prediction aged like fine wine
Bro after watching kenobi episode 3, u actually have the power of prophecy. Nuts.
The only thing that I don’t like about this rematch between is that we know Vader cannot seriously harm Kenobi in their fight even if he wins because we know from A New Hope that Obi Wan somehow escapes the fight pretty much intact. This means that Vader can’t cut off any of Obi-Wan’s limbs, disfigure him in any major way, or even kill Kenobi cause then that will contradict canon. So it feels like to me the fight won’t have as much stakes as there would be if A New Hope didn’t exist.
I’m here for the dialog between the 2
Since it’s only been 10 years since revenge of the sith and the clone wars show, for the first time I just wanna see how the 2 characters react to each other and what’s gonna be said because it’s a tragic story especially if you’ve followed from the clone wars tv show into the movies etc it’s so so so good
It’s why I’m able to overloook the weak characters and other cheesy stuff because I’m Legit here for obi and Vader
We don’t know if he loses a limb tho. Tell me do you ever see ben with a mechanical leg/foot in ANH? It may very well be there, but cus of the clothing you wouldn’t know. Wouldn’t surprise me if they make him lose a foot
He could get burned badly?
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Oh man Vader bashing Obi-Wan around until Qui-Gon is able to communicate with him would be wild. Maybe in some incredible display of Force Obi-Wan is able to overpower Vader long enough to get away.
It kinda reminds me of in Thor: Ragnarok where Hulk is on the brink of killing Thor and then Thor sees Odin and then is able to tap into a higher strength and generate lightning without Mjolnir.
Could Obi-Wan actually use Force lightning on Vader to render him powerless and escape?! Could be a way to canonically explain his aging/gray hair that people are weirdly fixated on.
I have to say I love the shot for shot ending to episode 2 with ROJ...FANTASTIC!!!
I wanna see obi wan go all excited and nervous to meet Vader and hope that he can persuade him to change back to the light side and it will all be this happy ending he thinks it will be but instead Vader listens to obi wan and acts like her cares and listens and listens and then when it comes to Vader speaking, he just acts like nothing that obi wan has said has even left obi wans mouth and opens up a world of Pain. And yeah ur idea of a rocky montage would be genuinely amazing if we get to see obi wan and qui gon breaking their backs training for a finale fight and maybe obi wan wins either physically with the blade or mentally. Either way, I’m so damn excited for the next episodes
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No way this CAN’T happen. In a new hope, Vader says « when I left I was just the apprentice ». So Vader can’t beat obiwan otherwise it retcons a new hope which will create a frenzy among the fans
This actually could change the meaning of “last time we faced I was the learner” meaning like “I was learning how to use this new body as my birth to vader” and now he’s the master in terms of having control of his current state
When you lose all your body parts and gotta readjust to being like a whole foot taller, bigger hands, not being able to do all yhe stuff you’ve been doing before (like flips on the daily) ect, i wouldnt be suprised if it took him more than 10 years to be fully “comfortable” in his new body
I'm not entirely sure there has to be a duel. There most likely will be one but, it doesn't have to happen. It could be that they just see each other briefly on account of what ever crazy crap might happen.
theres official concept art that they released on vader and kenobi fighting its almost confirmed
It makes no sense for Vader to beat Ben, it completely ruins the importance of the dialogue and duel in new hope
@@SledgehammerEditing Darth Vader: [as Obi-Wan finds him and ignites lightsaber] I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner, but now I am the master. - Actual Dialogue from New Hope,
Vader could be implying he meets again with Vader not Anakin. Vader no longer sees himself as Anakin and so its another meeting between Obi Wan and Anakin. They most certainly need to fight and Vader is going to win. Vader may be referring to being the master of the force and the dark side where he was once a learner of the dark side. Something like that and it gives open space for any interpretation we and Lucas film may deem necessary to fill in blanks.
@@SledgehammerEditing I agree.
@@willie5286 That still makes no sense, you have tried to make some weird condition and it isn't working
1st off I want to thank you for all your content. Its well thought out and I enjoy your take on things. It's awesome to hear other peoples perspective and I love that you pull from the graphic novels and comic. I haven't read all of them and the few I do own I've never opened. I grew up with the OG saga but I also read all the novels so I actually liked the prequels for the fact I was a little older and I was able to fallow the political nuances in EP 1 and 2. I also understood Anickens story character arc. I could relate to the clone wars and parts of EP3 as I spent the last 23 years in the USMC. During my down time on ship I would read the books. It took me about 8 years to read them all just in time for the re-release of the OG saga and the prequels. I felt I had a lot of knowledge on SW in my brain housing group. I also played all the games. I found my self explaining the prequals to my friends who were casual fans ie. fans that only watch the movies. Right now I'm starting to read the novels that came out after the Disney perches. Anyway I was hoping to get your take on the SW Skeleton Crew coming out next year with Judd Law. Or if you heard anything about it?
6:35 - "I could talk about this all day long..... Well, I guess that's what I do." LOL had me rolling.
Darth vader can better utilize the darkside at this time, unlike before when he and kenobi first dueled, and kenobi's lightside powers shouldn't be able to even sting lord vader. Kenobi was hesitate to fight the 3rd sister, because of his ring rust, so he wouldn't be confident enough to take on vader.
kenobi will always beat vader in a 1 v 1. this is a fact
@@fiorrytommy9429 didn't Lord vader eventually kill kenobi duh.
@@detroitmiracle1797 lol, kenobi spared him once and he let him beat him the other time to become a force ghost for Luke...
Vader never stood a chance against him, but fans will cry when he'll eventually stomp vader in this show, even tho vader explicitly said "I'm more powerful than the last time we dueled" implying that the last time he dueled kenobi won or maximum a draw happened
@@fiorrytommy9429 the mechanical vader is more physically stronger and more proficient with the darkside of the force.
Kenobi will best anakin again. When they meet in episode 4 vader said “much has changed since we last met ect now i am the master” meaning he knows he will best kenobi. Implying he hadnt yet in the past
Obi Wan had known for 10 years Anakin’s Sith name was Darth Vader. He didn’t need Reva to say it. Palpatine calls him Lord Vader in the security footage and Yoda also mentions “The boy you trained, gone he is. Consumed by Darth Vader.” It’s highly unlikely he ever forgot that. So why is everyone mentioning this like somehow he didn’t know or forgot? Reva isn’t telling him things he didn’t know besides Vader’s survival. Somehow in the ten years, Obi Wan totally cut himself off not just from the force but from news. Vader made headlines, even if just through idle rumor. So his shock is just from Vader’s survival. I really didn’t get why the writers had to explain to the audience Vader and Anakin are one in the same.
Kenobi thought he killed him...
He was not surprised to hear the name Darth Vader, he was shell shocked hearing the fact that Anakin freaking survived that.
Think about it, he watched Anakin basically burn as close to death as possible after he had just cut off his other 3 limbs, set on fire and everything.
Who sees all that and thinks that the person would survive at all much less long enough to travel back to the medical bay and get all that work done, Obi-Wan never thought he survived, hence the fear and shock in his face hearing the Vader name again.
Vader is an urban legends before rogue one no one knew he even existed because no non imperial has seen his face and no one could regonize it thrawn figured out on his own that Vader is Anakin does that mean that he's not connected to the news aswell? The shock was that he was alive not that he was Anakin,and reva said it because she wanted to remind him of it to make him even more shacked to the core...reminding him that it's his failure that became Vader.
If you listen to her lines, I don’t think she is EXPLAINING that they are the same person. In fact, she is using both names interchangeably to display that she knows who Vader really is, which is a bit of info that most people in the galaxy don’t know. She might even be doing that to purposefully stoke emotions in Obi-Wan.
Reva seems to be a past Jedi padawan, from the intro scene of Order 66 in the first episode of Kenobi. This is probably why she is described as “the least of us” and coming from the gutter. No doubt she had to live on the streets as an orphan, perhaps in the lower levels, after the temple was attacked and occupied. This is a rough life and she probably had to do some unsavory things to survive, a fact that made her more susceptible to turning to the dark side. But this also means she has personal experience and knowledge of both Kenobi and Skywalker, if perhaps only from a distance. Actually, this is could be true for many Inquisitors, since they often were former Jedi.
It will be interesting to see which way the writers take this thread.
Edit: she seems to be a past Jedi youngling, not a padawan.
As nice as it would be for the writing to only appeal to hardcore fans that know it all, they do have to hype things up and explain things for more casual viewers.. Not everyone has seen ROTS. Star Wars have done it before, so has Marvel
I do get though that it does retcon the fact that everyone that finds out his true name gets killed instantly, but I believe we will find out how Reva knows his true identity
The confrontation between Obi Wan and Vader in this series could really put a lot of weight behind that statement from A New Hope:
He's more machine now, than man.
I still wonder how they are going to justify the line “when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master
The whole series already leaked on torrent. Only 6 episodes. Obi-Wan and Darth fight twice. In episode 4 for 3-4 mins with Vader winning and in Episode 6 for just shy of 8 mins with Obi-Wan winning. Vader kills Reva towards the end because she lied to him and said she killed Obi-Wan.
As I watched Kenobi processing the realization that Anakin is alive, my thoughts went to the same place. When given the chance, he will try to turn him back to the light. We know how things inevitably go, but that interaction with a 10 year long hardened Vader will be most interesting to watch. Not to mention Qui-Gon’s thoughts and impressions during this point in the timeline.
Vader did say the last time he felt a tremor in the Force was in the presence of his former Master. There could be a brief exchange/fight in the series which may not mess with the continuity if done correctly. The continuity has been all over the place in the past, par for the course with SW & lots of other properties.
What if, Obi-Wan actually manages to get through to Anakin for a second? That would be really interesting to see. Like, I'm not expecting an entire episode where Vader is suddenly completely struggling with the dark side. That's just not Vader, but what if for a second, Anakin manages to resurface but then gets pushed back down by Vader
Ahsoka already did that in her fight with Vader so it'll be kinda redundant but interesting if done well. Maybe it could happen but I don't think he'll be able to reach Anakin because he'll lose badly if Vader resurfaces plus he'll maybe just have to retreat. I don't think The Grand Inquisitor is dead just from a lightsaber to the abdomen. Rupert Friend is great as The Grand Inquisitor but Moses Ingram as Reva is ok but it seems that she's trying too hard to seem like an intimidating psychopath. I really hope Kenobi is defeated by The Inquisitors in a fight due to being rusty because of inactivity as a Jedi. I mean NOBODY HATES STAR WARS LIKE STAR WARS FANS 🤣. I really appreciate this reaction content from Star Wars Theory. I hope people don't complain about Obi Wan not using his lightsaber much because of course he wouldn't he was in hiding after Order 66. I hope the next 4 episodes of The Obi Wan series shows how Obi Wan aged so fast because of Tattooine's double red suns, desert climate and constant fighting, hiding and stress from avoiding The Empire while dealing with Jabba The Hutt's mercenaries, Tusken Raiders, bounty hunters, Stormtroopers and watching over young Luke Skywalker, Owen and Beru . In the new episodes of the Obi Wan series I want to see Obi Wan communicating with Qui Gon Jinn about that Force Ghost training and his run ins with the Sand People, young Luke Skywalker, Owen and Beru and even The Empire at times plus other Jedi, Sith, Force users and bounty hunters if possible. I always thought it was strange how Darth Maul could come back but not Mace Windu when Maul survived something extremely fatal while Windu definitely could've survived falling out a window after getting his hand cut off and blasted by Palpatine's Force lightning. I'm still catching up as I haven't watched all of The Book of Boba Fett, The Mandalorian or any of Disney Star Wars things since Rise of Skywalker but I'll check them out soon. Seeing Luke Skywalker and Ashoka training Grogu and the next generation of Jedi is a dream come true of what I wanted The Disney Sequel Trilogy to be about now we'll never get that with The Original Trilogy cast. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
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@@justingary5322 Yikes, sorry but TL;DR 😂
I'm not sure it happened a bit too many times it would loose its significance.
@@thephoenix4093 Well, I don't read comics and books, so the only time I saw it was in Rebels
@@theunderdog9353 and the movies....
I think you nailed it and i can’t really see anything changing other than obi flipping on a giant magnet to run away
Except Vader doesn't. Destroyed = grievously injured such as losing limbs or outright dying, neither of which happens to Ben as we know from ANH. Thus, either Ben wins that second duel, or the inner core of Anakin stops Vader from injuring/killing Ben. This could be the man vs. himself conflict Deborah was alluding to.
We don’t know if he loses a limb tho. Tell me do you ever see ben with a mechanical leg/foot in ANH? It may very well be there, but cus of the clothing you wouldn’t know. Wouldn’t surprise me if they make him lose a foot.
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OR the more likely situation is that he will loose the fight right away and gets saved in time like every other fight where one is outmatched but the plot needs him to live.
@@DDDff400 …how’s he get away from the angry Sith Lord if he’s missing a leg or foot?
@@katrose5179 how did maul survive after being cut in half? How did the grand inquisitor survive being stabbed? How did this, how did that.. it’s Star Wars my friend, there will be an explanation. But I don’t think it would be too hard for obi to escape anakin if he has the will to live. I imagine he gains strength at the last second before being struck down or even distracts anakin by (accidentally?) telling him he has a son. Who knows, i just wanna see Vader be ruthless
Imagine the scene where they meet again parallels the Mustafar scene where they are circling the platform, can picture and hear Vader talking about how he has been contemplating revenge on Kenobi.
I just watched the episode, and may Vader was literally a pure horror film villain in it, and I loved it!
I can't imagine Vader will "destroy" Obi-Wan personally, I think that Vader is apprehensive for a reason in ANH. I'm sure he's some degree stronger in the force and less rusty, but he has many disadvantages going in that Obi-Wan can exploit to squeeze out a W. He's done this so many times with the odds stacked against him and has still come out on top. I think facing Vader again will actually favor obi-wan because it will help with his confidence and restore his faith in the force, leading him to become the Old Ben capable of beating Maul quite easily and training Luke to be capable of defeating his father.
Wonderful comment
I honestly think there will be two duels between them. The first duel Vader will win, and the second Obi-Wan will win
Yoda and Kenobi failed to defeat the Sith. That’s the whole point of Luke being “a new hope”. If Obi Wan was capable of defeating Vader he wouldn’t bother training Luke to fight Vader he’d just finish the job himself.
Vader is supposed to be unstoppable. Kenobi will get his butt kicked in their first fight, then probably outsmart him somehow and escape in their second fight.
@@Jordanthomas95 I meant teaching him how to use the force to defeat his father, I agree I don't think Obi-Wan could/would defeat Vader he's too strong. But I probably agree there will be two fights that go down just the way you said.
I think it should be stalemate and not a victory because Vader's line in ANH is "When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master".
there is this line in a new hope where vader said like: Last time i was but a learner, now i am the master. What if he didnt mean anakin vs obi wan but the first vader vs obi wan encounter. What if vader loses? At least the second time they fight in Kenobi. Because i believe there was a leak that they would fight a couple times or something like that
"I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, *I* am the master."
This is the quote from ANH that I keep wrestling with. If this quote referred to RotS, then it makes sense. But if there was a subsequent duel (which we are expecting to see in Kenobi) and Kenobi gets battered, I don't see how this quote makes sense.
I would love to hear Obi Wan say "killing me won't bring her back" which makes Vader hesitate letting Obi Wan get away. Probably won't happen though.
5:45 definitely nailed it theory!!
Someone pointed out that it would be cool if Anakin/Vader heard Qui-Gon to stop him from striking Kenobi down.
I think that would be a good idea and wanted to add that it would be very cool if we get that brief moment of Vader almost turning back (like when he looked at Ahsoka in Rebels), but then he hears Ahsoka say she's leaving the order, Padme's screams and one of Obi-Wans lines from their Mustafar Battle which fuels his anger again. It would probably end with Vader thinking Kenobi is dead.
Love the show so far - I'm sure they won't disappoint in the finale. :)
My theory is that just when Vader is ready to kill Obi-Wan, the force ghost of Qui-Gon is going to show up and verbally will keep Vader at bay while Kenobi flees away. Remember, a force ghost is something really new to anyone in the galaxy, even for Vader.
But as I’m typing this, I remember it would probably brake cannon kinda… Because when in the new hope Obi says that “i will be more powerful” etc. etc. then Vader should’ve known what he’s talking about… anyways, this would look cool. I think if Vader would see Qui-Gon, that would bring back Anakin for a brief moment for sure.
I loved the episode I enjoyed it! At the end though I would have had Vader walk through the fire with his lightsabre ignited just about to finish Obi Wan, then right at the last second Qui Gon Screams "ANAKIN!" and Vader falls backwards stunned after hearing the voice of his old master and mutters while trembling "Qui Gon?". Vader would be looking for a force ghost of Qui Gon too distracted to finish off Kenobi and while Vader is looking for Qui Gon, Tala would shoot at Vader forcing him to deflect the shots and suddenly Vader remembers, "Kenobi!" He ignites his lightsabre already remembering where Kenobi's body was raises his lightsabre in the air slashes it down AND... Nothing - Kenobi escaped while Vader got distracted. Vader looks around in panic and screams "KENOBI!!"
I think Vader will crush him physically, emotionally and mentally. I think he will leave him like Obi-wan left him on Mustafar. I think Vader will believe he has killed him in spirit and Obi-wan is so little a threat I don't believe Vader will care if he lives through it. It might be interesting if Reva interrupts the duel and Vader kills her.
yes shes gunna 100 percent do SOMETHING to have vader get her. I can just tell throught the writing. I personally think vader will mishear the name anakin skywalker and lose it.
Omg so booooring
That's not really in Vader's character. He wants to off Obi-Wan. He doesn't care about letting him suffer. People make Vader out to be more sadistic and less controlled and sophisticated than he really is. He kills Jedi, he doesn't torture them. Unless he needs answers. Even then, he more often than not let's imperial troops do that for him.
What you said sounds more like something Maul would do.
i think the empire or at least the inquisitor will try to kill reva for what she did to the grand inquisitor and she escapes. I dont think and hope that she doesn’t interfere with kenobi and vader fight. This is a sacred and personal fight between them i hope it stays that way. But yeah at some point i feel like she gets killed by vader.
@@imvellyy dude Vader got enough reasons to kill her already first of all for finding out his identity then for betraying grand inquisitor and finally for disobeying orders left and right.
Dude thanks for your perspective. It has me even more hyped for their first encounter even more now. Didn't think it was possible to get me more hyped than I already was. But here we are. I love discussions like this that provoke creative thinking in theorizing how things may or may not play out. As usual really I liked the video man! Keep it up!
There _has_ to be a training montage I can see him running into Vader going "aw crap I can't fight him" and then going into hiding to get buff beating on Tuskan raiders, beat Black K and then come back in fighting trim ready to go one more round.
I predict the conversation between Luke and Vader on the Endor moon platform is the plot for this mini series. When Vader replies to Luke asking vader to come with him, vader says, “Obi wan once thought as you did, you don’t know the power of the dark side, I must obey his Master”,,, then he will proceed to beat up on Obi then Reva will come to rescue and vader will kill reva. They may explain how the emperor is keeping him alive through the suit. As you said, Obi will confront vader to try and convert him back and vader will absolutely crush him, making him waste away on Tatooine being the frail weak version of Obi wan we see in new hope
what i feel like the fight will be him trying to talk to ani and vader will strike hard and deliberate like him kinda playing with him with hate. obi will be defending but ultimately being beating in to the ground and in a moment of sheer panic he will lash out and strike him and have almost another parallel with asokas fight where you see ani but vader will say he long gone burn to death by his master and brother on the shores of mustfar and right as vader was trying to land the killing blow on a stunned obi on the floor the third sister will block it and push obi to safety as she dies a hero or becomes very injured and have some robo arm but has ptsd becomes of it
I think Obiwan and Vader meeting before Episode IV will actually better explain Obiwan’s lack of surprise meeting Vader on the Death Star. He’s wary, of course, but he’s not horrified like he is in the Kenobi series. He isn’t shocked he’s in a suit or that he’s still alive, implying he’s seen him at least once looking like he did.
Obi-Wan: I can beat every Jedi in a skanderbeg competition by using the force.
Vader: *Breaks your hand*
I think in order for the line in ANH to work, kenobe will have to have defeated him again at least once. That way when Vader says 'when I left you I was but the learner' it would mean he was still learning to be a sith when they last fought. But in ANH he would have completed his sith training to master.
I dunno how it will occur, but I hope they remain true to, "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, *I* am the master."
Same theory I had, pretty much, and why I do think it would make sense for them to have another fight between Eps III and IV.
In ROTJ, Vader says to Luke "Obi-Wan once thought as you do" when Luke was trying to turn him back. Yet in ROTS, Obi-Wan had pretty much accepted that Anakin was too far gone, and went to Mustafar ready to kill him.
It makes sense that Obi-Wan would find out he's still alive, feel immense guilt, and then go to try to turn him back, only to discover he's "more machine than man now; twisted and evil."
That being said... the only logical conclusion would be for Obi-Wan to lose, or at least come damn near to it and then either escaping or faking his death.
I think we might get a scene where obiwan tries to change him back and tells him about his kids being alive and i think it will be a real emotional fight for both of them like we might see like a conflicted Vader fight vs a broken rusty kenobi
1:13 "Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try." Wait a minute, I thought only Sith dealt in absolutes. LOL.
I do think Obi Wan will try to reason with Vader, try and see if he can bring Anakin back and write the wrongs on Mustafar, but Vader WILL hesitate, if only briefly. Remember that in Rebels, for a few seconds, it seeming like Ashoka had almost gotted through to Anakin after she damaged his mask. Obi Wan has a looot more history with Anakin so I see no reason why he couldn't pry into the Anakin underneath just very briefly. Maybe they even have a bit of a subdued back-and-forth before they fight, similar to Luke and Vader's conversation on Endor in Return of the Jedi. Obi Wan will tearfully apologize for failing him, leaving him to die and for all the suffering Anakin and the entire galaxy has endured because of his failures as a teacher and a friend. Vader will stand there, looking away for a moment, before coldly declaring "Anakin Skywalker is dead. You killed him on Mustafar." or something along those lines. They fight, and while Obi Wan is severely outmatched maybe he gets in a few lucky hits that reveal just how little of Anakin's organic body is left, explaining why Obi Wan tells Luke "He's more machine now than man."
Obi-Wan fights Vader and is about to lose but Reee-va intervenes to save obi-wans life, sacrificing her own so he can escape. She also doesn't kill Luke when she has the chance because of her redemption arc so not only is she the one true savior of luke, but she also saves obi-wan.
The force is female now, cope
This aged like fine wine.
3:29 I hope that's not the case. Because it would fit more to the Episode IV line: "When i left you i was but the learner, now i am the master" if Vader loses to Obi-Wan again, or atleast does not dominate the entire fight :p
Well technically anakin still is the chosen one because in the last movie he does indeed defeat the dark side by turning on sidious at the end, so the prophecy wasn’t wrong it just didn’t go the way everyone thought it would.
I also can’t wait the see vader like genuinely pissed off with the suit on and in that voice. I mean during a second dual with obi-wan it would be awesome to see. Plus I like the fact that they’re actually showing vader without his suit and with all his injuries.
It just hypes up vader as a character in general, plus this is vader in his peak, he’ll never be as powerful later on as he is in the obi-wan series which makes this series that much better.
I think this idea would be a bit wild but would be sick.
Obi-Wans and Vaders last fight, Obi-Wan is losing still and outta no where Mace Windu jumps down and tells Obi-Wan he must go and that his duty is needed else where (training Luke in the future). and then a crippled Windu fights and dies to Vader in an extremely violent fight.
Bruh Kenobi could barley catch that little girl I swear if Disney gives us some wack fight scenes of Kenobi over powering Vader I’ma be pissed but not surprised knowing Disney.
No version of Vader could ever beat obi wan
I dont know if it will happen this way because Vader tells obi wan in episode 4 " When I left you, I was but the learner now I am the master". Doesn't sound like something someone would say if they kicked their butt the last time they fought. But only time will tell
"when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master". This must remain valid.
Kinda hoping for a Vader Fallen Order moment killing Reva. Maybe she briefly comes to her senses but it's too late and Vader says "You have failed me for the last time." Something classic.
“When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master” :: this is what makes me think Vader might not win by that much of a landslide
I just have to say your outro music is legendary
I think Kenobi will try to convince Anakin/Vader to come back to the lightside, but obviously doesn't work. But look back at Return of the Jedi... When Luke was trying to Convince Vader to leave with him. Vader replied to Luke "Obi Won once thought as you did". As Vader looks out thinking.
If you go back to 1977, when it all started, they don't fight again until the Death Star. Because of the "learner" quote. Any other clash is something new.
In my opion I don't think this duel needs to happen. But also "from my point of view the jedi are evil!" Also Theory, I've literally just read that part of Brotherhood about the delay with his mechanical arm and put the book down when the notification popped up for your video!! Also, I can see Obi-Wan trying to turn Vader back to the light. Gives a bit more feeling to the line Vader said to Luke in Jedi, "Obi-Wan once thought as you do."
Yup 💯 Agree with you General Theory I think Obi Wan is going to try and bring Anakin back unfortunately for him This is Vader now🌋 "Obi Wan once thought as you You don't know the power of the Darkside!" Vader said to Luke in ROTJ, So yup Obi is probably going to get wrecked and Qui Gon ⚡💚 Return's to complete he's training to become Old Ben Kenobi we see in Rebels 🎇 Looking forward to what's next
In the Vader comic from 2017 he learned pretty quickly even after getting Cybernetic limbs he took out some space Pirates without lightsaber with the force using pieces of scrap metal and destroyed entire ship if I remember it was right after the ending of revenge of the sith im pretty sure it is canon
In A New Hope Vader says “Last time I saw you I was but a learner.” So it has to end with Obi Wan at least mentally besting Vader or else it will majorly screw this up.
Well if that’s the case then if they do meet then the statement Darth Vader says when we last met “I was but just a learner, now i am the master” he couldn’t have developed that much more between this timeline and a new Hope.
I think it should be one fight. Like they are fighting on some kind of bridge and their are explosions going on. At one point the bridge goes out and the gap is to big to jump. They both leave.
I feel like this is more about Theory wanting Vader to get his licks in after Obi-Wan turned him into a smoking nub on mustafar. I've always liked the idea of Vader never getting the satisfaction of engaging Obi-Wan since then because he doesn't deserve it. Vader believing he finally has an opportunity to "get even" with Obi-Wan after 19 years just to see him vanish into thin air always felt like a hilarious dose of irony.
"Obi-wan thought once like you do. You underestimate the power of the dark side."
-Vader
If Vader destroys Obi Wan this time around, the only thing that would feel out of place is Vader’s line in ANH “when I left you, I was but a learner, now I am the master.”
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Rocky 3, first fight with Clubber Lang vibes... Vader was like, "C'mon Bal-bowa, c'mon"