@@NickBurnsFPVNICK BURNS! Cats knock important things off high places if you let them! Hallmark cat behavior, demonstrated by you!! Just like a cat to play coy about it too 😹
The threads on the end of the stock sticks are M3 threaded, so you can buy 20-25mm long M3 threaded bars, insert them into your gimbals, and use any M3 threaded stick ends
I really do love my zorro but for the price this is worth trying. This seems like it is exactly what I'm looking for in a tinywhoop radio. Small like my tiny whoop so I can have it in a small bag and take my tinywhoop with me when I wouldn't normally take all my gear with me.
I like the size of the zorro but hate the xbox controller form factor. Just ordered one of these its a shame the mini ag01 don't fit because I would rip them out of my zorro.
Doesn't really need to be a product just red threadlock a nut onto a m3 grub screw if you're feeling fancy get one of the round aluminum nuts that look like a really short standoff.
nice review nick! FWIW i (accidentally) did an actual durability test with my radiomaster boxer! in a rush to fly ahead of imminent rain i did not zip the backpack all the way up to where the transmitter sits. as i unloaded it the boxer did a serious dive into concrete from at least ~3ft! fortunately it (somehow) landed on its back and settled. after some serious expletives to the high heavens the thing (somehow) powered up like nothing happened! a testament to radiomaster’s durability! after forty years of flying (and crashing) everything RC, this is the very first time i crashed the transmitter! cheers!
Fantastic review, Nick!!! 😃 I've never seen anyone doing durability tests with radios! That's just brilliant, because sometimes... You know. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Hey! I know this was a while back, but I finally got one of these, and yes i do agree about the ARM switch, took me a while to get used to it, but other then that, for a whoop and toothpick radio, It's perfect, super small and portable, fits in my camelback also. Great Review you hit it right on. Cheers!
Niiiice. Radiomaster would be nuts to _not_ sell an AG01 for the Pocket. I got an OG TX12 with a 1-watt ELRS module. My AG01 Minis cost more than the radio, module _and_ batteries combined. But now, it's a Beast - a costly Beast, but worth every penny. I think I'll do the same with the Pocket [base 4-in-1, ELRS module, AG01s when available]. Enough unit sales early on should give 'em the push they need to make the gimbals. This is definitely the thing for throwing in the bag. Hmmmm. . . I wonder if they'll sell me a unit with a green top and a pink bottom?
Ah a two tone radio case would be a fun combo. I do think your right if the popularity of the radio is large enough they might find the motivation to make the cnc gimbals for it.
I still use the original Jumper T8SG ( Silver and black ) . I own the Zorro and the TX 12 but have stuck with the Jumper so far for my little quads...Lol
Hey Nick, I you sad under my comment on the sub250 whoopFly16 RTF bundle reword that you have planned a review on the evo 2.5 from avantquads. When or does this video come?
I don't use the boxer enough to do a comparison of the battery life. I don't recall the battery life of the pocket at this time. I use a goggle battery and the included straps at the bottom of the radio on the zorro. I charge or change that goggle battery about once every 10 days or so.
my TX12 has fallen out the back door of my truck a couple times when opening the door with no visible damage so far. Im looking for a second controler that I can keep in my truck along with a LiIon 2s quad for opportunistic flights. it was going to be a Boxer as my daily, and move my tx12 to secondary duty. I dont think I like the momentary switches, but $60 could be a compromise
Hi, is there any chance you know how to show the drone battery voltage on the radiomaster pocket ? I can’t work out how to do it, also when I press the telemetry button I just get a syntax error, I have the right lua script on the radio, this is a major frustration lol
I know it’s been some time since you made the TKS Rocket race video but is that still your go to 2” 2S quad? Sorry the question isn’t related directly to the video lol.
Last I heard is that isn't going to be available, maybe only the carbon case would be. Seems the other changes are specific to a brand deal done with resellers.
The gimbals are a deal-breaker for me. I just upgraded my Jumper T-Lite with the AG01 mini gimbals. It's a very easy mod. I'll never touch my Zorro again. If the Pocket was compatible with the AG01's, I'd be all over it.
I have some aftermarket stickendes for a dji fpv remote on my commando 8. I think they might fit and they are much longer and are adjustable in length. They are gold and silver.
oh wow those gimbals are smaller, the stick travel, is it at least similar to the zorro? i started out on full sized gimbals on a tx16 but after some falls, finaly got to the critical switches i was using and other weird issues from the falls lol,then i got a tx12 mk2, great lil radio too, between the stick travel feel and my big hands, lol, seems the boxer is gonna be my choice, this lil radio in your review is really nice though, should go well with lots of kids entering the hobby, between the size and the familar gaming buttons, i could see it doin well there.
I have a fair bit of feedback on gimbal size being a deal breaker. I suspect it's like many things with our hands, not all hands work the same or are the same size with the same sensitivity and dexterity.
@@NickBurnsFPV yep true, but that radio should fill a void where peeps that could use that form factor would find it comfortable. i wonder, is the stick throw distance determined by size? could the nano gimbals have a longer stick throw? i did see someone mod a boxer recently and dropped the gimbals 7mm deeper, to get more stick throw.
@@8BiT_fpv I can't be sure stick throw is determined by gimbal size, but it would make sense if it was. On the other side, all gimbals should go from 1000-2000 via tiny maybe 1 point increments if we can precisely position them.
@NickBurnsFPV hmm, sure seems the full-size gimbal spacing between those points is a bit more, like that distance from 1000 to 2000 is longer, than the smaller gimbles, 🤔 , sure felt that way, hmm lol, idk, well, maybe it is just they are larger gimbles and spaced apart where I need em, I only assumed that was the differences, like the lever distance was more, but I can see just having the longer sticks compared to the smaller gimbles possibly making feel that way.
You might look at the iFlight Commando 8 stick ends. They screw into the gimbal similarly to this radio. You can purchase different lengths from iFlight. I don't know if the thread is the same size or not.
@@billysproger690 hmm. for indoor I mainly fly 75mm whoop. the fractal 75 and mobula 7 get most of the indoor flight time these days. Outdoor I still mainly fly my 2s rocket race with 1102 1000kv motors on 2inch props. the frame is pretty much analog only and from jacks3dprinting.com
An excellent controller. I received it yesterday and felt the stability at first use. My previous controller was Literadio 3. It was a complete disappointment and I threw away the betafpv products.
Yeah i like the size of the radio but the stick ends look like they suck. I am thinking maybe print out TPU stick ends, just the top part or like a cap and place over the existing ones. I really like the Five33 Ripsticks and have them on several radios, I am hoping they come out with something better.
Damn this is a good channel. How did I not find this before. RUclips algorithm…im looking at you!!! Curious if anyone would know if you have a True diversity receiver, and an antenna break off (broke on the receiver side (collar))…. Can you still use the receiver? I know you can ruin things by running without an antenna…. If I use it, I want it to be reliable.
I have not tested this scenario, but if the receiver is damaged its best to get it repaired or replaced for maximum reliability. I certainly wouldn't fly far away if a diversity receiver was missing an antenna. The antenna is part of the grounding and could cause issues when missing.
Thanks for the vid...although I didn't watch the whole thing... My concern is far more about how the electronics mounted rigidly INSIDE the shell hold up than about how the shell itself holds up. I mean the shell holding up definitely matters, but the shell can be glued in some cases, where damaged electronics inside are a far more difficult problem to overcome.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah, I guess I was just wondering how much value there was in even testing an empty shell at all when the parts that 1) are far more vulnerable and 2) we care most about are the electronics on the inside.
reason for selling both my tx16s ! not durable and switches don't hold well. but this is compact and lie a baby t-20 which is by far the best radio out so far. can't wait for that review, coming this week?
Wow, now I'm torn between getting an ELSR module for my 4n1 Zorro or getting one of these in ELRS and getting a 4n1 module for it. I don't actually have any ELRS quads yet but I'm sure I will eventually.
@@hotpot321 I know, that's part of my dilemma. IMHO The only real benefit of buying the module for the Zorro is keeping what I'm already used too and only having one radio. But, the compactness of the Pocket sort of appeals to me, and the fact that I want to switch to ELRS anyway. I got a feeling I'll end up with both. First world problems I guess. lol
Lol I was that good almost 10 years ago with a aton lol FPV is def a completely different world I've only been flying FPV a month IL do it until the day I expire FPV is life ..
Hey Nick! Can we link SEA stores here for the mentioned products? I know you said that you don't mind linking other stores from around the world but SEA stores get items a little late haha. But if you don't mind, I can provide the link whenever I notice it available in our region. Thanks again for all your work for the RC hobby thus far!
Aw man, literally just got my boxer in a few weeks ago with the idea of transitioning away from my tango II with ELRS module. I'm struggling to adjust to the larger size and this would have been perfect... and half the price! Those gimbals do be small, tho
Also as for the stick ends I couldn't find any for the Commando so I printed my own and just put an M2 screw through it. This I am going to do the same and just put an M3 through.
I have to shoot from my memory as I don't have the commando anymore. The pocket gimbals specifically fell more smooth around the centering. My gut feeling is the pocket gimbals are a touch smoother overall as well.
@@NickBurnsFPV no doubt they are smoother haha my commando gimbals are awful. I meant size wise but no worries I don’t expect you to remember from way back when you looked at it.
@@NickBurnsFPV No, just all latching switches of that type in general. They get dirty and then they get weird. I don't think I've ever seen a push latch that didn't get weird at some point. So what happens is you start having to press them multiple times to make sure you get to the right state. And unfortunately it's very likely to put arm/disarm on one of those, so I can't imagine a worse situation to have a stuck latch.
@@ianduonghawaii ah, I do understand better. I am not 100% it would be a straight swap. I gave the boxer away. We would need to see an internal image to identify if there is a difference. Normally the pins are all the same and the shape is also basically the same, but with it being 1watt it might be a different size.
yes, the cc2500 version is multi protocol but not as many protocol as the traditional 4in1. The cc2500 supports these protocols Corona, Hitec, Futaba S-FHSS, Frsky D16/D8, Radiolink, and Graupner HoTT. More information on cc2500 here www.engineersgarage.com/wireless-communication-with-2-4-ghz-rf-transceiver-cc2500/#:~:text=The%20CC2500%20RF%20module%20is,a%20highly%20configurable%20baseband%20modem.
If I could only get use to those latching and momentary switches. I love the size, it's Toy RC size almost but a decent radio, not having traditional switches is where I'm lost. At least we know it'll take lots to really smash it up. Thanks for the vid! Cheers!
THANK you for this review!!! Was EXTREMELY excited about it at first and ready to replace my old QX7 but concerned about going down in gimbal size in addition to different style arm/disarm (shoulder switches). Anybody offer their opinions?
Awesome test nick👍🏼 man I wish this came in a 4in1 😢 I have been looking for a "jack of all trades" radio something I can fly my planes and quads I love the smaller radios but looks like the boxer still might be my choice👍🏼✌🏽
@somebodyspecific2410 yeah I'm thinking going with it for sure full size gimbals smaller fit and nice size screen definitely the choice radio right now😁👍🏼✌🏽
@@AleXianFPV just google it. To be release any day just as this transmitter. But its slightly bigger I think (still smaler than boxer) and got 1w elrs. But main question is it better for pinchers...
Great review Nick! Seems to me this is just a Zorro in a different case with different switches, what do you think? I’m probably an oddball but I’ve gone from TX16S max, to Zorro, to Boxer, back to a Zorro Max and now will try the Pocket in hopes of finding my perfect daily driver for all my flying, long range, freestyle, etc. I truly like a really small ratio even though I have large hands.
If it's M3, couldn't you just lop the head off a long M3 screw and make an adapter to a traditional stick end? Might need an additional nut to lock with.
I know that you were saying that you like to go out and fly IRL, but this looks like a simulator first radio to me. Something someone who picked up Liftoff or DRL off Steam during a sale and realized it needs an RC style radio to work best. This radio and the Orqa FPV.CTRL come up. This is $20 cheaper, looks more robust, actually has an RC transmitter in it, yada yada yada, and the choice is crystal clear. RadioMaster makes another fan who is likely going to be looking at upgrading to something like the Zorro or the Boxer in a year or two.
I know you reviewers like to review what is sent you the way it came, buuut if you would have switch out the body to the blue and test with the other I would have looked the other way 😊 nice review sir.
😂 😂 LoL nice durability test... I just dropped my jumper t-lite about 1m two days ago and the gimbal was off and needs calibration, battery spring loose... btw that transparent case is so cool I think the first thing I will mod is RGB light stripes and sync color with throttle position (arduino hack via trainer ppm) .
I got excited for a second but yah those dumb switches stink... that is what is holding me back from the boxer too. I want a zorro with the screen between the handles instead of on top...
I feel like an old curmudgeon as I am unable to effectively use the buttons. I to would like to see a smaller version of the zorro, but with the ag01 minis and full sized 18650 or even better the ability to use a large 5000mah 2s battery.
Jumper T20. I played with it for an hour and I liked it a lot. It’s a good design. I didn’t like the Boxer too much and had it with the AG01s for a few months. It never fit as well as it could of. With a bunch of modifications, dropped gimbals, and switch changes it was okay, but not good enough. I have been designing my own radio for quite a few months and it’s actually very similar, footprint wise, to the T20, but a little more fitted to my hands. But stock radio wise, never liked anything as well as the Jumper T20, my friend has had his for a couple of months and is loving it. Maybe try a friends out, they will be more widely available soon, a few others I know just got theirs in the last week. Zorro wise, remove the top screen, cut the top case and put the screen from the Jumper T-lite or similar… At least 20 people have done this, there is even 3D prints. I personally didn’t like the Zorro enough to bother, and got rid of it too. Jumper T-Lite with the RadioMaster AG01 minis is my jam recently… until I finish my own radio design. Happy flying!
@@NickBurnsFPV yah exactly take advantage of the space between the hand grips for battery. Removable sticks in ag01 would be nice too for travelabillity. No curmudgeon switches are better for sure.
@@lemonsquareFPV Interesting... I'll check it out. I use tx16s and will continue especially for gigs but I've been looking for a small portable option to toss in a camera bag when I travel.
@@NickBurnsFPV Love that! Was having lots of issues with slipping on other stickends during tournaments and sim racing so designed these to be super aggressive! Seeing a few pilots using their worn in sets for training and keeping a fresh (sharp) set for races. If you would ever like to create a custom stickend or really anything else (im an r&d engineer) please reach out to me or Jesse!
@@brdsrtrl With the tiny tips I found my only slippage happens in the hand with sweat. I don't see how I could improve on what you have already done. Well ofcourse blue makes us fly better 😂
Radiomaster and Edge TX didn't adopt my Sound Pack, so yeah not buying it. You shouldn't either, because it looks like you can't change the stick ends.
Why would you test drop it when its empty?? So how would we know if it's durable enough to protect the delicate inside?? This review is more to sell this radio then to prove it's durable
Nick, as someone who respects your opinion and reviews, man oh man... come on! Yes, yes "entry level price point" etc. I swear RM is simply out of ideas and desire to innovate. Do people just "squeeze this radio somewhere between a Jumper-T and a TX12 or the "Boxer"? Is the appeal simply having "skins" as options with in fact very little to no breakthroughs in terms of steps forward? This whole radio model pushing is like a brand of potato chips where all you get is one just a big bigger and it iterates over and over but still just chips!
Title should be "Being a cat with the RadioMaster Pocket"
sorry I don't understand the cat reference??
@@NickBurnsFPV The way you throw it looks like the way cats throws everything from everywhere. Not that funny anyways,
@@NickBurnsFPVNICK BURNS! Cats knock important things off high places if you let them! Hallmark cat behavior, demonstrated by you!! Just like a cat to play coy about it too 😹
@@totyrainI get it. It made me lol 😆
@NickBurnsFPV Let's just say that if the Earth was flat, the cats would already have thrown everything off the border.
Nick, you're such a cool and humble dude. Love the creativity in your testing lol. Thanks for all you do for us, bud. Keep up the great work.
Thank you. Don't know about the compliments, but I do appreciate the sentiment and taking the time to tell me.
The threads on the end of the stock sticks are M3 threaded, so you can buy 20-25mm long M3 threaded bars, insert them into your gimbals, and use any
M3 threaded stick ends
For the stick-ends you can use a bit of all-thread then use your regular stick-ends.
I really do love my zorro but for the price this is worth trying. This seems like it is exactly what I'm looking for in a tinywhoop radio. Small like my tiny whoop so I can have it in a small bag and take my tinywhoop with me when I wouldn't normally take all my gear with me.
The price is pretty compelling.
it’s so cheap everyone is just gonna buy one to play with
I like the size of the zorro but hate the xbox controller form factor. Just ordered one of these its a shame the mini ag01 don't fit because I would rip them out of my zorro.
A stick end adapter would be a killer product. (Basically just a m3 screw that screw into whatever thread the gimbals are)
Doesn't really need to be a product just red threadlock a nut onto a m3 grub screw if you're feeling fancy get one of the round aluminum nuts that look like a really short standoff.
nice review nick! FWIW i (accidentally) did an actual durability test with my radiomaster boxer! in a rush to fly ahead of imminent rain i did not zip the backpack all the way up to where the transmitter sits. as i unloaded it the boxer did a serious dive into concrete from at least ~3ft! fortunately it (somehow) landed on its back and settled. after some serious expletives to the high heavens the thing (somehow) powered up like nothing happened! a testament to radiomaster’s durability! after forty years of flying (and crashing) everything RC, this is the very first time i crashed the transmitter! cheers!
crashing a transmitters. That is something that likely happens fairly frequently but we never have footage of. :)
Fantastic review, Nick!!! 😃
I've never seen anyone doing durability tests with radios! That's just brilliant, because sometimes... You know. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
sometimes we all have butter fingers :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Exactly! And big cats as well. 😬
Great review and tests Nick! Much appreciated! That's a great and cute little radio, loved it!
Hey! I know this was a while back, but I finally got one of these, and yes i do agree about the ARM switch, took me a while to get used to it, but other then that, for a whoop and toothpick radio, It's perfect, super small and portable, fits in my camelback also. Great Review you hit it right on. Cheers!
Niiiice. Radiomaster would be nuts to _not_ sell an AG01 for the Pocket. I got an OG TX12 with a 1-watt ELRS module. My AG01 Minis cost more than the radio, module _and_ batteries combined. But now, it's a Beast - a costly Beast, but worth every penny. I think I'll do the same with the Pocket [base 4-in-1, ELRS module, AG01s when available]. Enough unit sales early on should give 'em the push they need to make the gimbals. This is definitely the thing for throwing in the bag. Hmmmm. . . I wonder if they'll sell me a unit with a green top and a pink bottom?
Ah a two tone radio case would be a fun combo. I do think your right if the popularity of the radio is large enough they might find the motivation to make the cnc gimbals for it.
AG01 minis won’t fit, not without mods. AG01 micros maybe?
@@SBvice Radiomaster's not planning on a new gimbal, but if they sell enough Pockets, they might decide to make them.
Omg... What a way to test durability 😂
I'm almost speechless!
Think I may buy one of these......
Fascinating review
This looks like the perfect controller for rip and dip sessions as well as whoop season.
Backpack radio! With the removable sticks and folding antenna, it is perfect!
Looks/sounds like best for its price. Great review as well.
I still use the original Jumper T8SG ( Silver and black ) . I own the Zorro and the TX 12 but have stuck with the Jumper so far for my little quads...Lol
Ouch I felt that. Thanks for different content
Hey Nick, I you sad under my comment on the sub250 whoopFly16 RTF bundle reword that you have planned a review on the evo 2.5 from avantquads. When or does this video come?
What?? I am not sure what is being asked here. timeline for the evo2.5? I don't schedule reviews. This is a hobby for me.
@@NickBurnsFPV you sad you have a eco 2.5 on the way
@@NickBurnsFPV I want to know when the review for the evo2.5 comes
@@Nik_FPV621 I do have the evo2.5. video likely next week.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks 🙏
I have heard many people complain about the Zorro battery, Zorro being your daily driver, Do you find the battery life on the boxer an issue?
I don't use the boxer enough to do a comparison of the battery life. I don't recall the battery life of the pocket at this time. I use a goggle battery and the included straps at the bottom of the radio on the zorro. I charge or change that goggle battery about once every 10 days or so.
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Yes, i have seen that done, guess ill try it out.
I'm waiting for the built-in 4-in-1 version!
What do folks still fly that they want the 4 in 1?? Frsky???
@@fpvsmurf mostly flysky and I want to be able to control toy grade aircraft with a decent remote
my TX12 has fallen out the back door of my truck a couple times when opening the door with no visible damage so far. Im looking for a second controler that I can keep in my truck along with a LiIon 2s quad for opportunistic flights. it was going to be a Boxer as my daily, and move my tx12 to secondary duty. I dont think I like the momentary switches, but $60 could be a compromise
I wonder if buttons are more or less expensive than switches. Couldn't be to much either way.
1 minute in: "durability testing a radio"
Now that IS funny lol
I thought the 'Pocket' was the drone 😂
Hi, is there any chance you know how to show the drone battery voltage on the radiomaster pocket ? I can’t work out how to do it, also when I press the telemetry button I just get a syntax error, I have the right lua script on the radio, this is a major frustration lol
I know it’s been some time since you made the TKS Rocket race video but is that still your go to 2”
2S quad? Sorry the question isn’t related directly to the video lol.
yes for outdoor analog flight.
Can you ask radiomaster when we will get the different color/clear shells sold separately for the zorro? I absolutely love all of the clear colors
Last I heard is that isn't going to be available, maybe only the carbon case would be. Seems the other changes are specific to a brand deal done with resellers.
Oh bummer that is pretty disappointing
the zorro is completely dead with this in the market
I don't know about the zorro being dead. It does have more switches and the larger screen is pretty nice.
The gimbals are a deal-breaker for me. I just upgraded my Jumper T-Lite with the AG01 mini gimbals. It's a very easy mod. I'll never touch my Zorro again. If the Pocket was compatible with the AG01's, I'd be all over it.
it looks like the Ag01 Minis would bolt right in...
@@crisnmaryfam7344 I don't think so. The Pocket gimbals are much smaller.
8:55 not compatible
8:55 not compatible
how many percentage improvement Jumper T-Lite with AG01 mini? Im thinking the same.
I have some aftermarket stickendes for a dji fpv remote on my commando 8. I think they might fit and they are much longer and are adjustable in length. They are gold and silver.
oh wow those gimbals are smaller, the stick travel, is it at least similar to the zorro? i started out on full sized gimbals on a tx16 but after some falls, finaly got to the critical switches i was using and other weird issues from the falls lol,then i got a tx12 mk2, great lil radio too, between the stick travel feel and my big hands, lol, seems the boxer is gonna be my choice, this lil radio in your review is really nice though, should go well with lots of kids entering the hobby, between the size and the familar gaming buttons, i could see it doin well there.
I have a fair bit of feedback on gimbal size being a deal breaker. I suspect it's like many things with our hands, not all hands work the same or are the same size with the same sensitivity and dexterity.
@@NickBurnsFPV yep true, but that radio should fill a void where peeps that could use that form factor would find it comfortable. i wonder, is the stick throw distance determined by size? could the nano gimbals have a longer stick throw? i did see someone mod a boxer recently and dropped the gimbals 7mm deeper, to get more stick throw.
@@8BiT_fpv I can't be sure stick throw is determined by gimbal size, but it would make sense if it was. On the other side, all gimbals should go from 1000-2000 via tiny maybe 1 point increments if we can precisely position them.
@NickBurnsFPV hmm, sure seems the full-size gimbal spacing between those points is a bit more, like that distance from 1000 to 2000 is longer, than the smaller gimbles, 🤔 , sure felt that way, hmm lol, idk, well, maybe it is just they are larger gimbles and spaced apart where I need em, I only assumed that was the differences, like the lever distance was more, but I can see just having the longer sticks compared to the smaller gimbles possibly making feel that way.
So this can bind with an FrSky Emax tinyhawk with that CC2500?
yes, but very likely have to use frsk d8 mode on both.
You might look at the iFlight Commando 8 stick ends. They screw into the gimbal similarly to this radio. You can purchase different lengths from iFlight. I don't know if the thread is the same size or not.
Thanks I will check it out. i do think those stick ends are M2 though.
Whats your go-to for indoor and whats your go to for outdoor
radio? or quad?
@@NickBurnsFPV sorry I meant quad !
@@billysproger690 hmm. for indoor I mainly fly 75mm whoop. the fractal 75 and mobula 7 get most of the indoor flight time these days. Outdoor I still mainly fly my 2s rocket race with 1102 1000kv motors on 2inch props. the frame is pretty much analog only and from jacks3dprinting.com
Oh wow ok so not even HDzero just usually analog?@@NickBurnsFPV
@@billysproger690 yes, I still fly mainly analog...probably 60+%
For the stick ends, I asume they're M3 size, just take a long M3 bolt and clip the head off.
An excellent controller. I received it yesterday and felt the stability at first use. My previous controller was Literadio 3. It was a complete disappointment and I threw away the betafpv products.
Yeah i like the size of the radio but the stick ends look like they suck. I am thinking maybe print out TPU stick ends, just the top part or like a cap and place over the existing ones. I really like the Five33 Ripsticks and have them on several radios, I am hoping they come out with something better.
a cap over the top is a good idea.
hi, can you use the lrs version for an fpv drone happymodel mobula7 without lrs receiver etc. Kim
I believe you mean elrs or expresslrs. No the drone and the radio both need to have elrs.
@@NickBurnsFPV Okay thank you
Damn this is a good channel. How did I not find this before. RUclips algorithm…im looking at you!!!
Curious if anyone would know if you have a True diversity receiver, and an antenna break off (broke on the receiver side (collar))…. Can you still use the receiver? I know you can ruin things by running without an antenna…. If I use it, I want it to be reliable.
I have not tested this scenario, but if the receiver is damaged its best to get it repaired or replaced for maximum reliability. I certainly wouldn't fly far away if a diversity receiver was missing an antenna. The antenna is part of the grounding and could cause issues when missing.
@@NickBurnsFPV :(, I knew that , but denial was providing hope. I’m mixed on whether I should return. It broke before I even sauntered it.
@@NickBurnsFPV my manners :(. Thank you for responding.
Thanks for the vid...although I didn't watch the whole thing... My concern is far more about how the electronics mounted rigidly INSIDE the shell hold up than about how the shell itself holds up. I mean the shell holding up definitely matters, but the shell can be glued in some cases, where damaged electronics inside are a far more difficult problem to overcome.
very true. I couldn't bring myself to potentially kill a radio I could eventually pass on to someone.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah, I guess I was just wondering how much value there was in even testing an empty shell at all when the parts that 1) are far more vulnerable and 2) we care most about are the electronics on the inside.
how would you say this compares to Betafpv Literadio 3. they seem to have almost the exact same features.
I think the gimbals in the pocket are smoother and more solid feel in the hand.
This is a solid radio. I do wish there was a little less play in the arming button.
reason for selling both my tx16s ! not durable and switches don't hold well. but this is compact and lie a baby t-20 which is by far the best radio out so far. can't wait for that review, coming this week?
Potentially
Wow, now I'm torn between getting an ELSR module for my 4n1 Zorro or getting one of these in ELRS and getting a 4n1 module for it. I don't actually have any ELRS quads yet but I'm sure I will eventually.
The problem is that the module costs as much as the radio itself...
@@hotpot321 I know, that's part of my dilemma. IMHO The only real benefit of buying the module for the Zorro is keeping what I'm already used too and only having one radio. But, the compactness of the Pocket sort of appeals to me, and the fact that I want to switch to ELRS anyway. I got a feeling I'll end up with both. First world problems I guess. lol
buy everything, it’s so cheap
@@zeta7SoloFPV I'm willing to buy your zorro if you want to sell. I'm back in the states (CA) in September. Let me know!! 😎
@@hotpot321 👍👍
Lol I was that good almost 10 years ago with a aton lol FPV is def a completely different world I've only been flying FPV a month IL do it until the day I expire FPV is life ..
As always a great review.👍
How does this compare to the jumper t12? I been using my t12 for couple years now, its been great. Worth a switch?
I haven't used that one in a good long while. I can say this one is overall smaller.
Hey Nick! Can we link SEA stores here for the mentioned products? I know you said that you don't mind linking other stores from around the world but SEA stores get items a little late haha. But if you don't mind, I can provide the link whenever I notice it available in our region. Thanks again for all your work for the RC hobby thus far!
I don't mind. I presume SEA is south east asia?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes it is. It covers countries Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, places around that area
@@KamikaKalimuthu Okay Thank you
Thank you 👍 Can anyone send me the SD card contents and the original FW pls? Screwed mine up 🤬
It will be here at the manufacturer's website eventually www.radiomasterrc.com/pages/firmware-updates
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick but it's not there yet. At least I couldn't find it 😉
Aw man, literally just got my boxer in a few weeks ago with the idea of transitioning away from my tango II with ELRS module. I'm struggling to adjust to the larger size and this would have been perfect... and half the price!
Those gimbals do be small, tho
How does the stick travel compare to the iflight commando 8? I pre-ordered this purely based on portability and I trust Radiomaster more than iFlight.
Also as for the stick ends I couldn't find any for the Commando so I printed my own and just put an M2 screw through it. This I am going to do the same and just put an M3 through.
I have to shoot from my memory as I don't have the commando anymore. The pocket gimbals specifically fell more smooth around the centering. My gut feeling is the pocket gimbals are a touch smoother overall as well.
@@NickBurnsFPV no doubt they are smoother haha my commando gimbals are awful. I meant size wise but no worries I don’t expect you to remember from way back when you looked at it.
@@_tcmore size wise would be to close to call at this moment. Likely so very very close to the same size.
@@NickBurnsFPV I would kind of hope the commando is about as small as someone would put on a radio 😂
The latching shoulder buttons are questionable because they're prone to getting sticky/stuck.
Have that happen on another radio? Tango II?
@@NickBurnsFPV No, just all latching switches of that type in general. They get dirty and then they get weird. I don't think I've ever seen a push latch that didn't get weird at some point.
So what happens is you start having to press them multiple times to make sure you get to the right state.
And unfortunately it's very likely to put arm/disarm on one of those, so I can't imagine a worse situation to have a stuck latch.
@@GoatZilla Ah, I understand better now. Thank you
Hi, good review. How can I power up the external module?
power up?
It gets power from the pins in the module bay.
Go into the menus and enable the external module, it will power up.
@AleXian_ yes, I mean where can i hang a lipo for it?
@@kelvinlau9623 maybe some velcro on the back of the radio as well as the battery. I have seen this done a number of times
Preeerrttty sure this will be my next radio.
Nick's Hand of Doom!
Can i take the internal elrs module from a boxer and put it into this radio?
I would presume so, but don't understand why one would look to do that?
@@NickBurnsFPV 1w internal elrs pocket
@@ianduonghawaii ah, I do understand better. I am not 100% it would be a straight swap. I gave the boxer away. We would need to see an internal image to identify if there is a difference. Normally the pins are all the same and the shape is also basically the same, but with it being 1watt it might be a different size.
How do the gimbals compare to the xlite (size wise)
Smaller. I put the xlite gimbals at the same size as the zorro from my recollection. No longer have an xlite to directly compare.
Nick is it multi protocol my friend.
yes, the cc2500 version is multi protocol but not as many protocol as the traditional 4in1. The cc2500 supports these protocols Corona, Hitec, Futaba S-FHSS, Frsky D16/D8, Radiolink, and Graupner HoTT. More information on cc2500 here www.engineersgarage.com/wireless-communication-with-2-4-ghz-rf-transceiver-cc2500/#:~:text=The%20CC2500%20RF%20module%20is,a%20highly%20configurable%20baseband%20modem.
@@NickBurnsFPVthx for that Nick keep up the good work 👍
If I could only get use to those latching and momentary switches. I love the size, it's Toy RC size almost but a decent radio, not having traditional switches is where I'm lost. At least we know it'll take lots to really smash it up. Thanks for the vid! Cheers!
Yeah those are a deal breaker for me.
THANK you for this review!!! Was EXTREMELY excited about it at first and ready to replace my old QX7 but concerned about going down in gimbal size in addition to different style arm/disarm (shoulder switches). Anybody offer their opinions?
If the QX7 has served you well and you feel comfortable with it, seems the logical move would be to a boxer. Similar shape with full sized gimbals.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the input on that as I went back to your review video for the Boxer immediately after.
Jumper T20 coming out soon and looks interesting for a compact size with full size gimbals
Is it good for 5inch freestyle??
Awesome test nick👍🏼 man I wish this came in a 4in1 😢 I have been looking for a "jack of all trades" radio something I can fly my planes and quads I love the smaller radios but looks like the boxer still might be my choice👍🏼✌🏽
@somebodyspecific2410 yeah I'm thinking going with it for sure full size gimbals smaller fit and nice size screen definitely the choice radio right now😁👍🏼✌🏽
We could add a nano 4in1 to it. The boxer is very popular as well.
I wonder if you could just switch out the internal elrs board with the 4in1 module used in the zorro and boxer
Nick could you test that? Would be great to have built in 4in1 and then just use the radiomaster ranger module to get higher output if needed
8:50 Yet...... it looks like the Ag01 Minis would bolt right in.
I would be surprised if they would without much diy.
They won’t
Which crossfire module would fit this?
The nano tx module
Wish it came in 4 in 1 without buying the module. Takes away my incentive to get it now. Might as well buy a boxer or zorro 4 in 1.
Ahhh not compatibel with ag01 mini :-( ... now we need an comparsion with jumper T20... that one also looks good on paper..
Jumper T20?
@@AleXianFPV just google it. To be release any day just as this transmitter. But its slightly bigger I think (still smaler than boxer) and got 1w elrs. But main question is it better for pinchers...
Great review Nick! Seems to me this is just a Zorro in a different case with different switches, what do you think? I’m probably an oddball but I’ve gone from TX16S max, to Zorro, to Boxer, back to a Zorro Max and now will try the Pocket in hopes of finding my perfect daily driver for all my flying, long range, freestyle, etc. I truly like a really small ratio even though I have large hands.
to a degree yes, but also the gimbals are smaller and that is very important to some.
Hey I'm new can this be used with crossfire receivers
Not without a crossfire module
If it's M3, couldn't you just lop the head off a long M3 screw and make an adapter to a traditional stick end? Might need an additional nut to lock with.
yes we could do that. I was hoping for a straight swap solution.
My name is Nicky Knoxville and welcome to FPV-Jackass
Radiomaster, please make a fiber carbon version ! :)
Hi Nick, good radio for the bag, at the house I use Jumper T-lite V2 very good and better price.
I do see that the t-lite v2 from newbeedrone is $59.99 for elrs version, saves $5.
I know that you were saying that you like to go out and fly IRL, but this looks like a simulator first radio to me. Something someone who picked up Liftoff or DRL off Steam during a sale and realized it needs an RC style radio to work best. This radio and the Orqa FPV.CTRL come up. This is $20 cheaper, looks more robust, actually has an RC transmitter in it, yada yada yada, and the choice is crystal clear. RadioMaster makes another fan who is likely going to be looking at upgrading to something like the Zorro or the Boxer in a year or two.
This is certainly true. Good radio to transition from simulator to outside flights.
I know you reviewers like to review what is sent you the way it came, buuut if you would have switch out the body to the blue and test with the other I would have looked the other way 😊 nice review sir.
two risks. I hose something in the transition and viewers may misunderstand the radio comes stock in colors fully ready to go.
@@NickBurnsFPV I understand 😎👍
where did you get that duct tape, it survived all of that abuse
my local hardware store. It true duct tape brand duct tape. Most duct tape we find is similar but not the brand duct tape.
why not just get a m3 threaded rod and put some nuts on it and get some m3 stick ends?
😂 😂 LoL nice durability test... I just dropped my jumper t-lite about 1m two days ago and the gimbal was off and needs calibration, battery spring loose... btw that transparent case is so cool I think the first thing I will mod is RGB light stripes and sync color with throttle position (arduino hack via trainer ppm) .
diy it up and make it your own.
Dude that is such a cool idea hell yeaaaaaa inspiration
The Men with the love me (straight) Jacket's are en route. No switches ??? 🙄
The lack of standard switches is a deal breaker for me otherwise I would buy one.
why do you need std switches? the 3 pos work the same way
@@marc_frank muscle memory
@@joelewandowski8232 hm alright, that's no issue for me, just adjust
I bought one for myself as my first radio, the 18650 cells haven't arrived yet and i cant control my excitement,
The USB on the bottom is for charging.
So which is better elrs or crsf?
At the time of Wezley's testing it would seem elrs is cheaper and has been range and packet speed. But crsf is likely easier for most to bind.
I got excited for a second but yah those dumb switches stink... that is what is holding me back from the boxer too. I want a zorro with the screen between the handles instead of on top...
I feel like an old curmudgeon as I am unable to effectively use the buttons. I to would like to see a smaller version of the zorro, but with the ag01 minis and full sized 18650 or even better the ability to use a large 5000mah 2s battery.
Jumper T20. I played with it for an hour and I liked it a lot.
It’s a good design.
I didn’t like the Boxer too much and had it with the AG01s for a few months. It never fit as well as it could of. With a bunch of modifications, dropped gimbals, and switch changes it was okay, but not good enough.
I have been designing my own radio for quite a few months and it’s actually very similar, footprint wise, to the T20, but a little more fitted to my hands.
But stock radio wise, never liked anything as well as the Jumper T20, my friend has had his for a couple of months and is loving it.
Maybe try a friends out, they will be more widely available soon, a few others I know just got theirs in the last week.
Zorro wise, remove the top screen, cut the top case and put the screen from the Jumper T-lite or similar… At least 20 people have done this, there is even 3D prints.
I personally didn’t like the Zorro enough to bother, and got rid of it too. Jumper T-Lite with the RadioMaster AG01 minis is my jam recently… until I finish my own radio design.
Happy flying!
@@NickBurnsFPV yah exactly take advantage of the space between the hand grips for battery. Removable sticks in ag01 would be nice too for travelabillity. No curmudgeon switches are better for sure.
@@lemonsquareFPV Interesting... I'll check it out. I use tx16s and will continue especially for gigs but I've been looking for a small portable option to toss in a camera bag when I travel.
Science at work!
lol
Would've been nicer to see if the actual radio could take a tumble and still function instead of just the shell :/
PLEASE tell me you pitched about 26 fastballs into that brick chimney you have, otherwise missed opportunity
I don't have much of a fastball anymore. :) Only quads have been "pitched" into the chimney.
CC2500 dont do flysky..😢
i actually started chocking when i heard 55 dollars
Yea thats actually absurd. $65 for elrs is crazy especially when a module costs $40. Wish it had bigger gimbals though and used a normal battery
I don't know if this shape fits into the "game pad" category, but the traditional game pad style radios all use round cells, likely due to this shape.
It is pretty shocking.
saludos from Spain I ordered one, a bit more tax here
CC2500 is only for Frsky
Holy cow, are those tinytips on your zorro?! Please tell me you actually use those! Im the creator!
YES!!! At first I thought they were pokey on my fingers, but that went away and love using them. Thank you for making them for us.
@@NickBurnsFPV Love that! Was having lots of issues with slipping on other stickends during tournaments and sim racing so designed these to be super aggressive! Seeing a few pilots using their worn in sets for training and keeping a fresh (sharp) set for races. If you would ever like to create a custom stickend or really anything else (im an r&d engineer) please reach out to me or Jesse!
@@brdsrtrl With the tiny tips I found my only slippage happens in the hand with sweat. I don't see how I could improve on what you have already done. Well ofcourse blue makes us fly better 😂
@@NickBurnsFPV we just started adding colors. Blue can be done 😉
AG01 Nano $59 if you have to spend some money to 'feel' happy...
Radiomaster and Edge TX didn't adopt my Sound Pack, so yeah not buying it.
You shouldn't either, because it looks like you can't change the stick ends.
This controller would be a "W" except for one thing... NO TRIMS!! Ugh. Swing and a miss!
It does have trim buttons. They are just inside the gimbals, they are directional pads.
@NickBurnsFPV Might be tricky to hit those while flying. They work like regular trims for fixed wing?
@@jasonhurdlow6607I do think they would be tricky as a multi directional pad. In the right direction they do work like normally trim
Good
Cool! Move over Betafpv... Sorry. 😁
Gimbal to gimbal
that was entertainingly pointless ^-^' nice to know the plastic won't shatter, but the sticks and switches are far more important
Why would you test drop it when its empty?? So how would we know if it's durable enough to protect the delicate inside?? This review is more to sell this radio then to prove it's durable
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Nick, as someone who respects your opinion and reviews, man oh man... come on! Yes, yes "entry level price point" etc. I swear RM is simply out of ideas and desire to innovate. Do people just "squeeze this radio somewhere between a Jumper-T and a TX12 or the "Boxer"? Is the appeal simply having "skins" as options with in fact very little to no breakthroughs in terms of steps forward? This whole radio model pushing is like a brand of potato chips where all you get is one just a big bigger and it iterates over and over but still just chips!
This descriptions most of what we are seeing in FPV. tiny small iterations after tiny small iterations.