I was so excited to get these goggles so i could get that "nick burns" level of hd quality on my digi whoops, for some reason your hdz video always looks so good.
I don't think I've ever seen you so enthusiastic about a goggle. You typically are more factually reserved in your opinions, leaving the audience to make up their own minds which is something I've always admired about your videos. That being said these must be REALLY good to receive such a glowing endorsement from Nick Burns! Great work as always sir. I haven't flown in a few years but you make me wanna get back into it. Thanks for your contributions to this hobby!
Thank you. These goggles clean up so many goggle shortcomings and go further. And goggles that come in the future have to acknowledge this goggle in either feature or price.
✴CORRECTION✴ Other goggles do have HDMI out, namely the WalkSnail goggles Raise your hand if you watch all 40 minutes? 🙌 Links to everything shown in this video is in the video description. .
Something to note for those looking for a compatible mic, the mic connector is TRRS - Tip, Ring, Ring, Sleeve. The little black plastic rings aren’t the things they’re talking about - the letters represent the shape of each conductive element in the connector. Most headphones use TRS (Tip, Ring, Sleeve), and things like head tracker/trainer cables typically use TS (Tip, Sleeve).
I think the mic on this is perfect for regular fpv quad pilots that aren't doing reviews etc....the ability to have commentary on the flight recording without all the youtubers gear is a great upgrade! Perfect for just showing flights to friends and sharing the experience or tricks that you've been trying to pull off etc. Can't wait to pass vids back and forth with the buddies and finally be able to have audio with it!
I can agree with that. I am probably being a bit fussy worrying about changing the flight audio as it could impact those watching judging noise from one quad to another. It will very much help me include flight audio in the case of a crash reel, so much easier to include than syncing two files or leaving the flight audio out.
My 1st real goggles were dominator v3, then DJI V1 which I still use because i could do hd and analog. THESE are the first goggles I'm seeing worth moving up to because they can do all of the things. Very cool Nick thanks for the review
Keep in mind as of now we don't have an option to run dji on these goggles. Matter of fact unless we root the dji goggles we can only output dji goggles to dji screens.
Thanks for your time Nick 🙏 Lot to learn about these new goggles. Excited to see what features they have coming 👀 That internal mic is good enough for some "note to self" moments.
I've been waiting to upgrade my analog goggles for a year or more now since walksnail, hdzero, and others were all working on new products. Looks like these might be for me! I absolutely love my whoops so goggles that will do analog, HD, and digital, plus all the other features like headtracking and hdmi-out etc would be perfect! I can finally upgrade to multiple vtx options and not be limited to analog quads! I'm excited about these and I'm really glad I waited for them to drop!!! Can't wait to get mine and also finally snag a 4 or 5 inch digital ripper! The hobby has finally busted wide open for me with these goggles! Thanks for the review, Nick!
I'm brand new to the hobby. I bought a Boxer for Christmas. I've been looking for a set of analog goggles. I was looking as the Sky04x. Now I want these. Thank you!
Hi Nick, I decided to take a look at the HDZERO system, and since I can't go with DJI, I would look at Walksnail and HDZERO. And I'm really impressed. Thanks for all the information and video on the HDZERO Googles.
I suggest you go HDZero if you haven't committed to any digital system yet, best community focused company and they are moving fast. Low latency + this new Goggles will make your flying experience amazing.
@@kithng And open source. Letting anybody to create codes to improve and to add feature. Great development hardware I would choose Hdzero too. I'm a opensource type of guy. All my server run Linux :) Even my desktop.
@@NickBurnsFPV v2. But I like the idea of keeping my analog and having the hdzero option. It seems like they're actively improving things constantly, where Orqa seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
This platform is truly amazing. The perspective of no longer needing to rely on some really dodgy FW provided by the manufacturer and being "locked into it" is formidably. Of all the HD formats I would prefer HDZero since it is providing all the benefits of analogue without the annoying limitations of DJI video (I don't want to start a flame, just my impression). I have a Skyzone Sky04X and have suffered from a dodgy VRX and have changed it to TBS Fusion. The goggles are okay, but my impression has been affected by the very poor experience with the receivers. If I would shop for new goggles now I would definitely take this.
Im having good luck with the openVTX from happymodel ...steadyview dont work and I havent found a VTX that is compatable.. but normal stays locked the whole flight.
Love my HDZero Goggles. One complaint is the location of the power button. Too close to the barrel plug. Now regarding the Rapidfire needing to be on RF1 mode, in a more challenging environment, the video does roll. This is why RF mode 2 is preferred in other goggles like HDO2s but RF2 is pretty poor at the moment in the HDZ goggles. I then tested my RF back in my Fatshark HDO2s and the video does not roll. I actually get better penetration with my RF in my HDO2s. I know they are working on improving and I am in the Beta testing group so I know it it will get better. You will not regret buying theses.
I just acquired a couple of spots on my screens in my Hd3w/sharkbite goggles. Was thinking(still) of getting new goggles, but would take a few months of my hobby budget. That being said, Nick, you've got me too excited about this goggle! I think I'll postpone a crawler I was lining up, and save for this. I've got a couple HDZero drones, and a few analog. Thanks for this informative video, I think? Lol Keep it up, when I buy, I'll use your link! Happy New Year!
@Nick Burns The only things I kind of dislike are the set back SMA connectors which are kind of hard to tighten down. The power switch gets covered up by my barrel plug when I have a battery in the goggle strap. Also the finish paint if you will call it looks real easy to get dirty or scratched. But other than that these are the greatest feeling goggles on my face and the optics and lens are amazing! Thanks Nick!
@@baggszilla yea, I noticed the switch difficulty as well. When the first pair of printed goggles were produced that was a complaint, unfortunately there was some limitation that made it difficult/impossible or even cost prohibitive to move. A right angle barrel connector helps loads. the xt30 to barrel adapter I bought has really made it easy to get to the switch.
@Nick Burns one more thing is the faceplate is really hard to snap in lol. I thought is was pre-installed out of the box so I installed my foam and my truerc patch antennas. Then I look and it's not fully snapped in. So I have to try and not push to much pressure on those antennas when snapping in my face plate.
HDZero goggles have been my best FPV purchase to date. They ACTUALLY lived up to the hype-train. I haven't missed my O3 system yet. The Nano 90 camera is sweet!
Awesome comprehensive review Nick - Awesome Goggles - a Paradigm Shift in FPV. I was going to "buy in" to DJI when I bought the Mavic Pro Platinum. But once I realised DJI had adopted the Apple business model I gave up on DJI. I tried SharkByte but the VRX failed: no preplacement available but I did get a refund. So big thumbs up to Mike at HobbyRC for that. I have bided my time and this week I finally secured a pair of the HDZero goggles in their amazing value Freestyle Bundle of Micro V2 Camera + 120mm MIPI cable + Freestyle VTX + Antenna + HDZero FPV Goggle. I already have the original SharkByte VTX and camera waiting in a 5" quad. And I will be adding another camera and VTX to the 3" AcroBrat quad that I am building. After that will be a Beta 85X HD (DJI) conversion to HDZero with their whoop board. I am well on my way to a phased conversation from analogue to digital FPV - HDZero being the ONLY system that facilitates that route. DJI's absurd business model has cost them in the permanently loss of a customer - and I am not the only pilot who thinks that way. So Nick, I keenly await your reviews of HDZero and compatible products. Sorry, I do not be watching anything with DJI in the title...
I wish dji would open up to the fpv community and make a vrx, but I agree with you, they likely aren't or don't seem to be interested. They would rather have everyone spend more money to fly dji fpv.
Gotta add one more comment. I like this kind of review on things like goggles, longer and more detailed. Goggles are really a personal preference kind of thing, much more so than a quad or camera. Thanks for the review, and if you do a follow up, that would be great !!
@@NickBurnsFPV any issues, best features in real use, quirks, etc. If you are still using them in 6 months, I'd like to know, that's all. I have based more than a few buying decisions on follow ups.
I fly analog mostly, and I bought the first batch of these goggles. I absolutely love them. I am waiting on am waiting on my radiomaster xpres lsr module to come in so I can try out hdzero with the hdzero whoop I bought. I have been holding out for these goggles, and I'm glad I did. Great video.
@@dnsfklfhSCN Right before the HDZero goggles I was use the v1 orqa goggles. I also have the v2 Orqa goggles but the field of view was to small on the v2. I had my hdzero vrx setup on a set of skyzone 04x. I guess I would have been using two goggles as my daily goggles. the v1 orqa and the skyzone 04x, depending what I was flying.
@@NickBurnsFPV I just bought some orqa v1 with a foxeer module for $450. Im not sure if I should try to sell them and get these. Im on a tight budget and barely afforded the orqa. Antennas for the HdZero seem like they will add an extra $100 or more on top as well.
Bassline! 😁 As an FPV newbie, I really appreciate your content! These goggles may be my future gateway into HD. For now, just simming with my DX6i until a Boxer arrives. Poor little Mobula 7 sits idle.
Fantastic flying and review as always, Nick!!! 😃 I'm definitely going to save money to get a pair! 😂 There's just one thing missing: it still doesn't run Doom. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I should have waited to watch the whole video instead of putting cool I should have put love those goggles getting rid of my box goggles Happy flying everyone you too Nick keep up with the good videos
Wow, still kinda reeling, never seen such a positive review from Nick. I am now looking at my HDO V1's , and even though I love them, may be time to move on to digital.
Excellent review Nick! Watched all the way through to the end! I got my set Friday and have been loving them, really impressive how well they turned out. So happy with them. Thanks Nick!
I hope you had something to drink while watch. Crazy long video and I don't think I covered every detail. May require a follow up depending on how the comments come in.
Seriously considering those googles, but 500usd + analog bay + analog module is still for me a too big investment. Specially because I'm quite happy with analog's penetration and colors (if you use a modern cam) on my old and trusty sky02 googles. But I agree that if I wanted to update, hdzero is the way to go.
Thanks for video, been waiting for this one, I could have watched it easily even if it was longer, there's just so much good stuff in these goggles. Of note was a Ryan Quellet video a few days back or so, mentioning Picture in Picture using HDZero and Analog inputs. I was blown away by that possability. Nice deeper dive into these, it looked like you were having a blast with the Basseline, nice tease there heh. I'm deffinatley sold on these goggles. I just checked out Botgrinders take on them, yeah these are the ones to have. And now 100$ less, it just keeps getting better. Going to be pulling the trigger on these in the next few weeks for sure. Have fun, looks like you are really enjoying these! Cheers!
Whoa Picture in Picture, I will need to investigate that. Or was he talking about the ability to tweak the color saturation etc with a Picture in Picture view?
@@NickBurnsFPV I don’t think it’s implemented yet. But I’m keeping my eyes open for more info. There was no demo just how to use an analog vtx for the audio. I had to watch it a few times to make sure.
Loved the review but I just can’t get passed the flatness of the picture quality on the HD Zero. I love my DJI V1s still. The picture quality I get is still amazing.
Yes, it can be a super confusing topic. If we have other FPVers in the area its always best to try for ourselves. Otherwise its up to our research, and budget vs feature/video system. If you have other questions for me please let me know I will do my best to provide a balanced response.
Nick, I hope that was an affiliate link you gave, because I just dropped a bundle for the Goggles with FreeStyle combo. Caught me at just the right time, because newer DJI 2 Goggles seems to be a snoozer, as I already have the V2.
It was 😁👌👊. I hope the hdzero goods enjoy many fun flight with you I have the v1 dji goggles struggling to get something O3 compatible without taking the risk of buying second hand 🤷🏻♂️
they really did something right with it... the most amazing thing imho would be, if they would base future improved hdzero versions on the same goggle design.. so you could keep the goggles, optics, and just replace the pcb inside the goggles.. cause to be honest, it is a huge waste of resources to buy new goggles everytime a new digital system comes out... it is also expensive, I imagine that new pcb revisions could be sold for a decent price in the future. but idk if there is huge potential or not with this hd system... I hope so.. all that being said, they do have a really good price on the goggles.
This will be a long comment... hope you'll still read it. I really like the HD Zero system. I have the sharkbyte module from nearly the beginning. I really appreciate that it is still updated. The osd elements look exactly the same as in this review with the latest uodate. I do not know if it is new, but recently I discovered that there is a LED option in the camera setup. It makes flying indoors with lights on (normal case for me) a lot nicer! It reduces the halo effect of if not fully eleminating it (I only have LEDs in my house). For the goggles I still have one point never mentioned that is keeping me away from getting them. I am a 4:3 flyer but the goggles have 16:9 screens. In many reviews 4:3 is used. In this review it is easy to realize, that the osd elemets are even outside the camera picture. Doesn't the screen appear to be "small" in 4:3? It is true that I have sometimes issues to see the corners in my SKY04X! But I could use the mode with a small picture... what I do not do as I prefer the bigger screen with maybe cut corners to the small picture. The same is valid for 16:9. In 16:9 I see clear all coners in the SKY04X, but the height is too low in my opinion. Could you compare the SKY04X picture with the HDZero goggle both showing 16:9 and 4:3? In 4:3 the SKY04X in small and normal size mode? Does the 4:3 picture seem to be smaller to you than in the SKY04X? Sorry fot the long comment... Happy HD flying!!!
The HDZero screens are larger than the 04x, with that even at 4:3 it appears larger than the 04x screens. There is also a coming feature to reduce the screen size, either as a preference or for full visual. The OSD elements can only be outside of the camera view in the case of using the hdzero video transmission system. I also expect to see the ability to move the hdzero osd elements around on screen as well. Its a very flexible system with performance being the focus of the developers. In my 3 weeks with the goggles I have seen more than 5 firmware updates and a 6th I didn't apply before the review. I hope that helps some. Please let me know if there are additional items
I appriciate your answer but imho it is actually not representing the specs. The FOV for both goggles are given with 46°. I far as I know this is for both the max. horizontal FOV. With the given display ratios and with the Skyzone cutting top and bottom for 16:9 while HDZero is cutting the sides for 4:3 this results into the following FOVs Goggle ratio FOV horizontal vertical resolution Skyzone 4:3 46° 35.3° 1280x960 HDZero 4:3 35.3° 26.9° 1440x1080 Skyzone 16:9 46° 26.9° 1280x720 HDZero 16:9 46° 26.9° 1920x1080 This is just the math relying on the specs. According to this the FOV (not the resolution, that is higher on HDZero) on 4:3 is bigger in the Skyzones while being equal in 16:9. So, if the 4:3 in the HDZero apprear bigger than th3 4:3 in the Skyzone, I am wrong. Can you explain me were the mistake could be?
@@flydayone_svalher The match all looks good to me. it would be great to boil down everything to easy to ready numbers. I go by my experience and report that in the video. The 04x are very good goggles. My experience comparing the visual between the two is the hdzero goggles have a better, clear, clean and larger visual experience. I did compare the 0x4 as well as the other goggles I have that have hdmi in to the hdzero goggles.
I really appreciate your opinion! That's the reason I wonder what is wrong! But I believe I found the answer. The given FOV is always for the diagonal. With this the table would be: Skyzone 4:3 46° 1280x960 HDZero 4:3 38.3° 1440x1080 Skyzone 16:9 46° 1280x720 HDZero 16:9 42.6° 1920x1080 Coser but still... I would just have loved a 4:3 panel. Anyhow, not that anybody get me wrong. I am a big fan of the system and soon I'll see myself as the order is already placed. I just wonder why the felt FOV can be bigger in the HDZero goggles.
Last correction... did this in the night and mixed the values for both goggles in 16:9 Skyzone 4:3 46° 1280x960 HDZero 4:3 38.3° 1440x1080 Skyzone 16:9 42.6° 1280x720 HDZero 16:9 46° 1920x1080 The values are rounded and confirmed by Ryan Quillet. So unluckily I am right and in 4:3 the FOV of the HDZeros is smaller. For sure this is subjective... but I would have loved a bigger FOV in 4:3. I believe 4:3 is better ratio for FPV... at least for me.
Oh Darn. After this review I think I picked the wrong horse. Maybe I should have gone HD Zero instead of Walksnail. More thinking required. Great video as always and watched to the end.
There is a reason not to buy them: glasses. These look amazing and would be an instabuy for me, except that I'm basically stuck with my Skyzone Cobra because they work so well with my glasses. I'm not really complaining - the Cobra are good, and do have HDMI in. The menu is a bit confusing though, as you mentioned.
Nick is hdzero Anolog that much better than fatshark HDO if you are only looking to upgrade your anoglog googles? Only use analog for my whoops. DJI in my bigger quads. Moving to whoops more and more. Thanks, great video.
damm Nick, now that the swing is gone your are more aggressive it seems like.. I LIKE IT.. doing the flippy flops a lot more. your one of the best reviewers in FPV..
Love the video Nick! I was looking for a battery and even though the RadioMaster 6200 doesn't seem to be available anywhere... I found the older 5000mAh to be a steal at newbeedrone @ 15.99 each which I bought 2 packs. The difference seems to be a 30 minute difference. 5ah / (15w / 7.2) == 2.5 hours where 6.2ah is 3 hours. Bought 2 batteries for the cost of one. Excellent videos as always and thank you for sharing the battery you used as I was having a hard time find a good solution. I guess I could make a xt30 cable which would take 2 batteries in parallel for a total of 5 hours... but that is probably overkill....lol
I enjoyed this feature-length presentation. I bet editing it was a beast :) Glad you're liking the goggles too -- I'm just so impressed every time I use them. The quality is better than I had hoped, and for a first-gen product from HDZero it's unbelievable. The open source nature and Linux subsystem on the goggle is also totally unprecedented in terms of the changes and improvements I think we can expect to see as the community gets them in hand.
They feel like the promises Orca made in their first goggle coming to reality with better hardware, optics and flexibility. Editing was very time consuming and picking what flights to use...sheesh long process. Rendering a 4k 40 minute video also took a long time as well as uploading a 14GB file. All day process.
Even flying a number of different products I do find I fly analog at least 50% of the time or more when i am just flying for me rather than for video purposes. I might be less sensitive to the HD image quality for a multitude of reasons. I think these will enhance the flight videos on the channel with that high quality dvr. I also feel much less like I am wearing fpv goggles, its like I am not wearing goggles, but maybe a home theater.
Thanks, Nick. If the Eachine EV800 box goggles were the knuckle draggers on the human evolution scale, these HDZero goggles are the upright bipedal. Got mine yesterday. So impressed with the picture quality, interface, and the build quality of these goggles. Funny thing, I still could not see all four corners of the screen.😀
@@NickBurnsFPV Only very very little on 16x9. See all corners on 4x3. Did not bother me at all when I flew. HDZ is still much superior to the HDO, EV200D, EV100, and EV800.
@@NickBurnsFPV No offense at all. The IPD adjusters are not max'ed out; both optics are individually focused and centered. I even pressed the goggles hard onto my face so my eyeballs are closer to the lens, still see slightly fuzzy round corners on 16x9 but the four edges are sharp and straight. I attribute this "tunnel" vision to my age. Therefore, I am immune to FOV marketing mumbo-jumbo. 😀
Old video, but I'm just now looking into HDZero and naturally I came to Nick Burns. Anyway, how's the range with HDZ for you? Can you go around the house or out into the cul de sac with decent video?
It will really depend on which vtx and what we might consider decent video. HDZero does not have the penetration or retransmissions that other hd video systems do, so the video won't be as good with hdzero as those when flying around the front of the house or in the cul de sac, but it certainly can do it at 200mw and above.
Hi Nick and happy new year. So this was a really great review of the HD Zero goggles and related stuff i am really happy to hear that the quality of the optics is really good - I had heard that somewhere and this is a big deal, especially the fact that you mention that all you see when you put them on is a rectangular screen, edge to edge, and not much else - that is going to make the experience that much more immersive. Geez, I finally had enough money at the end of the year to buy a set of DJI Goggles V2 and I am super happy but I can't help but feel like I might have been better off going with HD Zero... well, at least it is hard to complain about the DII goggles, they are pretty good and of course the link is really really good, at least for me it should or will be really good. I am not that quick with my reaction times so I don't think I will ever need super low latency but perhaps I am wrong and latency is even more important for someone with slower reflexes... eh, all I can say is I am super happy and grateful that i finally have the DJI's after waiting about 2 years (money has been, um, tight...) but darn if the human in me doesn't keep saying "but I want that..." funny the way we are programmed right? Cheers.
The image quality that we get in the dji goggles is really really good no doubt. It would be so cool if dji made a vrx, but I don't suspect they want to save anyone in fpv any money. latency can be a bit of an argument starter. Most find a way to adapt or they natively adjust. I think its harder for me bouncing from system to system. I do feel more in control or "connected" when I am flying analog or hdzero, I suspect that feeling is the latency, but it could also be the weight as I am often flying something with smaller than 3inch props. I say if your happy with what you have we should enjoy it and not chase the upgrades....unless that keeps us happy :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the reply. One of the things I was talking about is how funny human nature is - after waiting a couple years to get what is arguably one of the currently best FPV systems available that I would start to feel a bit of buyers remorse and to be jealous of the HD Zero stuff. In fairness to me I was strongly attracted to the HD Zero system and knew that the new goggles would be amazing but when DJI made the goggles only $429 well - they got me! Also - if you read this far I recently came across a charger that to me has to be one of the best values as well as one of the best capability and feature packed chargers out there and it would be awesome if you checked it out and did a review on it. They have 2 versions that I like - Both are B6 chargers, one is a Duo charger meaning it has 2 charging ports and the other is called the Nex and that one is super cool as due to the technology they used it is very small and powerful. They both have 1000ma balance current specs which means these will have pretty fast charge times. Anyway, I have nothing to do with anyone or anything I just really like these chargers and I think they could be great tools for FPV. I am designing a quad myself and it is fairly innovative but I am ways away from talking or showing anyone the design let alone proof of how it will perform but I think it will be cool as I can actually claim that there are zero quads that I have ever seen that would be like it. Cheers!
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes - exactly. The GaN tech is AWESOME - I have it in my Toolkit RC Benchtop power supply the thing is tiny yet 30v and 10A!. If I just did not get an ISDT K4 (nice charger, powerful is its defining feature!) I would be getting one of these. Perhaps I will get one for travel as it is really small yet notably powerful. I wish the GaN model came in a dual port config but I will take it as is. Also the Bluetooth conn. and software that goes with it is much better than what i got with my ISDT - it is actually quite disappointing as the K4 is arguably their top charger yet I think some of their lower spec chargers have better software... but hopefully they will catch up on this aspect of modern chargers. However that ISDT can charge 8 cells and do it with up to 600 watts PER CHANNEL! Yikes that is a lot of power. It can also be used as a power supply. So my charger can power my other chargers! So I just think this is one of the best chargers that I have come across (I am usually very obsessed when researching stuff so believe me when I say I came across just about every single brand and model of charger available and this one is a clear stand out.) and I wish I found it before I bought a different one. So I am being a bit of a whiner here, the K4 is a big deal in it's own right, I am just bummed as I thought the backend software was going to be much better than it is. Anyway as a mechanical engineer I am just the kind of person that is always looking at tech and I really appreciate innovation and value. Cheers!
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, exactly. This one has the GaN tech making it super small yet still very powerful. Not unlike the Toolkit RC 30V 10A benchtop power supply with GaN. What works great so I would imagine that the Skyrc one would also be great. Cheers!
Wow, you are super excited! I am used to a more reserved review, but...must be good. I just got Eachine EV300O V2 thru Banggood last week and the Skyzone 04L V2 (339 sale)....these are leaps ahead of the Skyzone 02O ( two faceplate, two cushions, IPD and focal adjustments )....Spent almost 800, 😂, on both. Are they worth it, of course. But NOW I gotta wait 5 months to get these....
Ouch.. I've been looking for weeks at the different systems/goggles, Nicks review or usage report finally filled in some blanks, nothing else out there like them.
It did feel a bit odd to edit the video. I was very fortunate to get some reasonable to good weather and fly outside. We had that cold burst and I really felt like flying inside wasn’t the full experience. Very lucky.
Thanks for this very detailed and well made video. So, what is your preference now for whoops? Digital or analog? My first impression from HDZero was that all the hassle with external VRX and flashing VTX Firmware and so on was not worth the slightly better image. But the new Goggles and advanced OSD might change that - do they?
Hey Nick, a great review as always and a great set of goggles which I plan on ordering soon. Just a quick question regarding the RadioMaster battery you showed. Being a Lipo wouldn't there be a problem if that battery was left in a high state of charge, given we normally use storage charge for Lipo batteries?
For our goggles batteries the potential damage is minimal. And we either have another large battery to manage the voltage on or accept the minimal damage. in the studies I have seen if our lipos are left at full charge for about a month the capacity and performance can degrade by 2%. Google batteries really don't need to "perform" as their discharge rate is pretty slow vs the high discharge rate for our quad batteries.
I actually started thinking about it and now it's really funny. FatShark held HDZero back, remember. So last year it was the HDZero VTX. This year, the Open Source Goggles, that's meant to put FatShark and other Goggle manufacturers out of business. Remember, the interview of the CEO of HDZero, (I'm sorry, I forget his name), but essentially, he said -- "I want to sell the chip". He never really wanted to make money from VTX's or Goggles, not the way FatShark depends on. I guess he get's the last laugh. As a firmware developer, with a resin printer, an FDM printer, and board experience, this is basically a wet-dream piece of electronics for me.
I was really close to buy a pair myself, i miss fly my small ones.. Then i have to switch couple drones from DJI. I really want a pair of goggles that can handle analog and HD at the same time and yet have a small formfactor. This might be my new ones. I'll deside when my pay comes this month :P Great review as always
@@NickBurnsFPV I would like to hear what you personally think of Walksnail vs HdZero. I like both systems. I mostly fly micros, so hdzero is very high on my list. But then Walksnail came out with relatively light and small vtxs, which I thought was totally awesome. I like micros but I don't mind going up to 3.5 or even 4 inch props if I have to, in order to get a decent digital experience. For those of us who like micros and smaller quads, dji is mostly out of the question. So we are left to decide between hdzero and walksnail. Both systems are awesome imo and I would probably be happy with either. I already know the specs about both systems, so a video explaining each system is not what I would like to see from you, Nick. I would really appreciate a video of you explaining how you feel about each of those systems and how you feel about them, considering your style of flying and the kinds of quads that you like to fly. I'm interested in your take of these two systems. I already own analog goggles that I like (Fatshark Scout), so don't need my new digital goggles to be able to run analog as well. However I wanna know how you feel about the new analog deinterlacer on the hdzero goggles. Notice any improvements over the traditional deinterlacers? Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
I did the pre-order thing. When you said they were going down $100 my earlobes turned red and veins started bulging on my forehead. Then I found out they'll be issuing $100 store credits and my blood pressure dropped 🙃 😅. Great goggles!
@@NickBurnsFPV Hey Nick, this is what I've found out. Store credits are going out but only a few at a time for some reason. Here's what I've heard, Pre-order people (me) are getting a $105 credit and beta testers (you 😒) are only getting $75. Not sure of why there is a difference. I'm thinking about a "whoop" VTX with a 14mm Runcam nano camera. I've got the rest of the parts already to build a Pachray 3" yard cruiser.
@@Terry12345 Ah think you for the information. Those of us that got a discount will get the reduced store credit as we received a 25% discount upfront.
You’re a doozy as him as me very interested in these goggles! Thanks for the great coverage. I’m currently working on building a tiny little flyer and I’m having a hard time finding M2 X 3mm screws. Where do you buy your tiny hardware?
I will look on amazon and often have to buy kits including sizes I don't like. I have also bought a host of different screws on ebay. A more specialty screw was the m1.4 6mm, 8mm 10mm. Those I believe were ebay only and a wait for arrival about 3 weeks.
I'd like to see a comparison to fat shark analog from the inside. I dont have a way of trying the hd zeros without buying a bunch of stuff. I'm not sure how much better they are.
Fat Shark analog? Do you mean to use the 5 year old fatshark module for video reception? Or comparing analog to hdzero? I am confused, for analog I am using the same module on the hdzero goggles that I used on my Orqa goggles.
Hot diggidy, a price drop and back in stock? Well well well, that's a great way to start the new year. Definitely the goggles I'll be picking up as soon as I clear off some bills and whatnot. I need that puppy with the analog bay, and I guess I'll need to buy a rapidfire module too... I wonder if the skyzone stuff works on that...
@@NickBurnsFPV I noticed this as well while shopping around. Ah well, at least the goggles are a good start and I still have my old box analog ones for now until I can find a module...
Nice goggles, but unfortunately the HDZero image quality is not on par with Walksnail. Personally I like an all in one goggle for the system I fly, which is WS for this reason (I also have the HDZero VRX). Adding an external vrx is only useful when you already have an older pair like Skyzones or Fatshark, not when you're buying new ones. I got my WS goggles for 509$ in the November sale’ which still is a better deal for me. But do these HDZero goggles have one or two oled screens?
I am waiting for version 2 of these version 1 doesn't have a provision for the wifi feature , and yes I will be getting a set. I'm sick of waiting for Orqa to finish making the modual for the pro.rapid 2 is for older stuff. These have the 270 gyro in it so I believe you can program it for power saving and auto on.
The face plates: Should they touch from left to right evenly? Goggles come without foam attached so how do you size the face plates without fitting the foam? Second issue is the Analog adapter, there is a place to screw the adapter to the goggles but no screw was included with the HDZero adapter, did my screw get lost? The Lumenier AXII2 antenna pair had a 90 and 45 degree adapter, with the Rapidfire and HDZero goggles it needs two 90 degree adapters. You state "a separate power on/off switch" the HDZero module does not have a switch, what module are you talking about? I purchased the HDZero Sharkbyte TrueRC combo (didn't read pass HDZero) not the HDZero Goggle antenna, more wait time. Started this journey in January, goggles arrive April 6th.
as to no screw I can't say. I would contact support. Most can dry fit the face plate to make a choice to which one fits their face better then apply the foam. The v2 of the analog adapter has a switch, as well as the overall goggle has a switch, but yes there is no switch to power off the HDZero receiver.
I don't understand why people would use a 6s battery direct into electronics that are designed to run 8v or so from 2s. Why not get a battery for your goggles, they aren't that expensive!
Yea, I don't know why that seems to be an issue. I can only guess is an issue of out flying a 6s quad and didn't bring or don't have any less than 6s batteries.
You could use "spent" 6s batteries you just flew that are too empty to keep flying on but fine for low power use I guess? Idk why you'd use a fully charged 6s though.
Thanks for the awesome video NIck! I read in the specs that the 4:3 mode has a FOV of 37 degrees or so. How does that feel when you compare it to Orqa's 45 or so FOV? Do you notice see a big difference?
I haven't use the orqa fpv one goggles much as the field of view is smaller than the previous version. The hdzero goggles appear larger. The original orqa goggles have a larger fov but the corners I can't see and the screens/panels aren't as good. It is likely the hdzero goggles will give us the ability to decrease the screen size one day. This comes in handy for those that can't see the corners of the hdzero goggle screens. Its not implemented or even beta yet. This was a feature orcq does have in the fpv pilot goggles but its only one size rather than the ability to select a granular size reduction. I have heard from one person they were not able to see the very edges of the corners in the hdzero goggles.
I was so excited to get these goggles so i could get that "nick burns" level of hd quality on my digi whoops, for some reason your hdz video always looks so good.
Cause Nick it’s a good person , not like u botgrinder hahahhh
lol, I have iron rich blood. Time for the BotGrinder supplement line.
@@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO hahaha
Told you Nick!!! I had said the same thing about a week ago lol I swear he does!!
@BOTGRINDER You got your review out just before Nick did! I was ordering whilst you were talking...
I don't think I've ever seen you so enthusiastic about a goggle. You typically are more factually reserved in your opinions, leaving the audience to make up their own minds which is something I've always admired about your videos. That being said these must be REALLY good to receive such a glowing endorsement from Nick Burns! Great work as always sir. I haven't flown in a few years but you make me wanna get back into it. Thanks for your contributions to this hobby!
Thank you. These goggles clean up so many goggle shortcomings and go further. And goggles that come in the future have to acknowledge this goggle in either feature or price.
✴CORRECTION✴ Other goggles do have HDMI out, namely the WalkSnail goggles
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Something to note for those looking for a compatible mic, the mic connector is TRRS - Tip, Ring, Ring, Sleeve. The little black plastic rings aren’t the things they’re talking about - the letters represent the shape of each conductive element in the connector. Most headphones use TRS (Tip, Ring, Sleeve), and things like head tracker/trainer cables typically use TS (Tip, Sleeve).
Good detailed information. Thank you, I failed to remember to put some text on screen during my memory failure.
I think the mic on this is perfect for regular fpv quad pilots that aren't doing reviews etc....the ability to have commentary on the flight recording without all the youtubers gear is a great upgrade! Perfect for just showing flights to friends and sharing the experience or tricks that you've been trying to pull off etc. Can't wait to pass vids back and forth with the buddies and finally be able to have audio with it!
I can agree with that. I am probably being a bit fussy worrying about changing the flight audio as it could impact those watching judging noise from one quad to another. It will very much help me include flight audio in the case of a crash reel, so much easier to include than syncing two files or leaving the flight audio out.
My 1st real goggles were dominator v3, then DJI V1 which I still use because i could do hd and analog. THESE are the first goggles I'm seeing worth moving up to because they can do all of the things. Very cool Nick thanks for the review
Keep in mind as of now we don't have an option to run dji on these goggles. Matter of fact unless we root the dji goggles we can only output dji goggles to dji screens.
@@NickBurnsFPV having walksnail as a dji-like option brings us most of the way there, though.
Good point. I still have my V1's though for however long they'll still work for. I have 2 vista's so not a huge fleet of hd
If they do the same thing it wouldn't be a move up.
@@wmnsriteslol Still not there.
thanks again for all the goggle discussion. i have a few flights on my hdzero goggles now and your tips were great!
Thanks for your time Nick 🙏
Lot to learn about these new goggles. Excited to see what features they have coming 👀
That internal mic is good enough for some "note to self" moments.
I've been waiting to upgrade my analog goggles for a year or more now since walksnail, hdzero, and others were all working on new products. Looks like these might be for me! I absolutely love my whoops so goggles that will do analog, HD, and digital, plus all the other features like headtracking and hdmi-out etc would be perfect! I can finally upgrade to multiple vtx options and not be limited to analog quads! I'm excited about these and I'm really glad I waited for them to drop!!! Can't wait to get mine and also finally snag a 4 or 5 inch digital ripper! The hobby has finally busted wide open for me with these goggles! Thanks for the review, Nick!
This review was so awesome. This goggle has everything I want. Thanks for this excellent review.
My Hdzero goggles just came yesterday ! Can’t wait to learn more about them !
I'm brand new to the hobby. I bought a Boxer for Christmas. I've been looking for a set of analog goggles. I was looking as the Sky04x. Now I want these. Thank you!
Yea, If you budget includes fund for 04x, I highly suggest getting these instead.
Great video Nick... My friend got his goggles day before yesterday and has written code changes already. Talk about custom. Enjoy the Breeze...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
Hi Nick, I decided to take a look at the HDZERO system, and since I can't go with DJI, I would look at Walksnail and HDZERO. And I'm really impressed. Thanks for all the information and video on the HDZERO Googles.
I suggest you go HDZero if you haven't committed to any digital system yet, best community focused company and they are moving fast. Low latency + this new Goggles will make your flying experience amazing.
@@kithng And open source. Letting anybody to create codes to improve and to add feature. Great development hardware I would choose Hdzero too. I'm a opensource type of guy. All my server run Linux :) Even my desktop.
A few of my group are switching to these. I may just sell my orqas for this. Very intrigued.
Which orcas? V1 or v2
@@NickBurnsFPV v2. But I like the idea of keeping my analog and having the hdzero option. It seems like they're actively improving things constantly, where Orqa seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
@@jinxfpv6637 backup goggles can be a good way to share, or keep us flying if something happens to our primaries.
awesome video as always! I needed that tutorial on soldering the pigtail
Outstanding work, I love the level of detail yet ease to comprehend method you employ. I appreciate your time.
Thank you. Appreciate the compliments
This platform is truly amazing. The perspective of no longer needing to rely on some really dodgy FW provided by the manufacturer and being "locked into it" is formidably. Of all the HD formats I would prefer HDZero since it is providing all the benefits of analogue without the annoying limitations of DJI video (I don't want to start a flame, just my impression).
I have a Skyzone Sky04X and have suffered from a dodgy VRX and have changed it to TBS Fusion. The goggles are okay, but my impression has been affected by the very poor experience with the receivers.
If I would shop for new goggles now I would definitely take this.
Im having good luck with the openVTX from happymodel ...steadyview dont work and I havent found a VTX that is compatable.. but normal stays locked the whole flight.
I can't believe I'm watching Nick Burns !! I have never, ever seen you so hyped about a product !! I'm 7 minutes in, and I'm still in shock !!
Yea couldn’t help myself. I have been throughly enjoying the goggles.
Love my HDZero Goggles. One complaint is the location of the power button. Too close to the barrel plug. Now regarding the Rapidfire needing to be on RF1 mode, in a more challenging environment, the video does roll. This is why RF mode 2 is preferred in other goggles like HDO2s but RF2 is pretty poor at the moment in the HDZ goggles. I then tested my RF back in my Fatshark HDO2s and the video does not roll. I actually get better penetration with my RF in my HDO2s. I know they are working on improving and I am in the Beta testing group so I know it it will get better. You will not regret buying theses.
Good information there, thank you.
I just acquired a couple of spots on my screens in my Hd3w/sharkbite goggles. Was thinking(still) of getting new goggles, but would take a few months of my hobby budget. That being said, Nick, you've got me too excited about this goggle! I think I'll postpone a crawler I was lining up, and save for this. I've got a couple HDZero drones, and a few analog. Thanks for this informative video, I think? Lol Keep it up, when I buy, I'll use your link! Happy New Year!
Is this a time I should say: sorry not sorry? :)
Awesome review Nick! I got my Goggles in this week! I love them! Cheers!
Glad you like them! Running HDZero?
Anything you feel need changning or a bit of polishing?
@Nick Burns The only things I kind of dislike are the set back SMA connectors which are kind of hard to tighten down. The power switch gets covered up by my barrel plug when I have a battery in the goggle strap. Also the finish paint if you will call it looks real easy to get dirty or scratched. But other than that these are the greatest feeling goggles on my face and the optics and lens are amazing! Thanks Nick!
@@baggszilla yea, I noticed the switch difficulty as well. When the first pair of printed goggles were produced that was a complaint, unfortunately there was some limitation that made it difficult/impossible or even cost prohibitive to move. A right angle barrel connector helps loads. the xt30 to barrel adapter I bought has really made it easy to get to the switch.
@Nick Burns one more thing is the faceplate is really hard to snap in lol. I thought is was pre-installed out of the box so I installed my foam and my truerc patch antennas. Then I look and it's not fully snapped in. So I have to try and not push to much pressure on those antennas when snapping in my face plate.
HDZero goggles have been my best FPV purchase to date. They ACTUALLY lived up to the hype-train. I haven't missed my O3 system yet. The Nano 90 camera is sweet!
Awesome comprehensive review Nick - Awesome Goggles - a Paradigm Shift in FPV.
I was going to "buy in" to DJI when I bought the Mavic Pro Platinum. But once I realised DJI had adopted the Apple business model I gave up on DJI.
I tried SharkByte but the VRX failed: no preplacement available but I did get a refund. So big thumbs up to Mike at HobbyRC for that.
I have bided my time and this week I finally secured a pair of the HDZero goggles in their amazing value Freestyle Bundle of Micro V2 Camera + 120mm MIPI cable + Freestyle VTX + Antenna + HDZero FPV Goggle. I already have the original SharkByte VTX and camera waiting in a 5" quad. And I will be adding another camera and VTX to the 3" AcroBrat quad that I am building. After that will be a Beta 85X HD (DJI) conversion to HDZero with their whoop board.
I am well on my way to a phased conversation from analogue to digital FPV - HDZero being the ONLY system that facilitates that route.
DJI's absurd business model has cost them in the permanently loss of a customer - and I am not the only pilot who thinks that way.
So Nick, I keenly await your reviews of HDZero and compatible products. Sorry, I do not be watching anything with DJI in the title...
I wish dji would open up to the fpv community and make a vrx, but I agree with you, they likely aren't or don't seem to be interested. They would rather have everyone spend more money to fly dji fpv.
future is here right now, great image :)
Gotta add one more comment. I like this kind of review on things like goggles, longer and more detailed. Goggles are really a personal preference kind of thing, much more so than a quad or camera. Thanks for the review, and if you do a follow up, that would be great !!
Good to know. Thank you for the feedback. What kind of follow up might you be interested in?
@@NickBurnsFPV any issues, best features in real use, quirks, etc. If you are still using them in 6 months, I'd like to know, that's all. I have based more than a few buying decisions on follow ups.
Quads and cameras are just as much a personal preference. Not really sure how you got the idea they aren't.
@@echobeefpv8530 Gotcha. I do think I can answer one. These will be my daily goggles unless I am flying dji :)
@@dangerous8333 I don't " got the idea" that they aren't, they aren't to me. My opinion, I don't speak for everyone, same as you.
I fly analog mostly, and I bought the first batch of these goggles. I absolutely love them. I am waiting on am waiting on my radiomaster xpres lsr module to come in so I can try out hdzero with the hdzero whoop I bought. I have been holding out for these goggles, and I'm glad I did. Great video.
Nice. Good to hear you think positively about the googles as well. Sometime I worry I am crazy or off base with products I think are especially good.
what goggles did you use previously?
@@dnsfklfhSCN skyzone cobra x.
@@dnsfklfhSCN Right before the HDZero goggles I was use the v1 orqa goggles. I also have the v2 Orqa goggles but the field of view was to small on the v2. I had my hdzero vrx setup on a set of skyzone 04x. I guess I would have been using two goggles as my daily goggles. the v1 orqa and the skyzone 04x, depending what I was flying.
@@NickBurnsFPV I just bought some orqa v1 with a foxeer module for $450. Im not sure if I should try to sell them and get these. Im on a tight budget and barely afforded the orqa. Antennas for the HdZero seem like they will add an extra $100 or more on top as well.
Bassline! 😁
As an FPV newbie, I really appreciate your content! These goggles may be my future gateway into HD. For now, just simming with my DX6i until a Boxer arrives. Poor little Mobula 7 sits idle.
Lol, first to notice the bassline flight. That video should be coming shortly.
Not at $500.
Gateway would be cheaper goggles or used goggles.
@@dangerous8333 no point to waste money on anything else tbh
Great write up. Can you expand on your experience flying analog with these vs the 04x with regard to tiny whoops with 4:3 cameras and the goggles FOV?
Ok I'm sold
Brilliant video as always Nick and just bought my hdzero goggles
I like mode 2 in rapid-fire for multiple cameras on my rc cars
Fantastic flying and review as always, Nick!!! 😃
I'm definitely going to save money to get a pair! 😂
There's just one thing missing: it still doesn't run Doom. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
give a minute to finish current features....doom is right around the corner :)
I don’t need a new goggle. I really don’t. But darn I’m tempted just because of the de-interlacing of analog!
I wish these were out two years ago when I bought my hd02 goggles. Tempted to try digital, but the cost to switch is too high for me now
I should have waited to watch the whole video instead of putting cool I should have put love those goggles getting rid of my box goggles Happy flying everyone you too Nick keep up with the good videos
Light leak spots you mentioned are from where clips of the faceplate attach to the goggle nick.
Use a little black silicone to fill it in :)
Ah good info there. It doesn’t bother me, I doubt I crack the goggles.
Wow, still kinda reeling, never seen such a positive review from Nick. I am now looking at my HDO V1's , and even though I love them, may be time to move on to digital.
Hey is we are happy and enjoying fpv that is most important. We don’t have to “chase” upgrades. 👌
Excellent review Nick! Watched all the way through to the end! I got my set Friday and have been loving them, really impressive how well they turned out. So happy with them. Thanks Nick!
I hope you had something to drink while watch. Crazy long video and I don't think I covered every detail. May require a follow up depending on how the comments come in.
@@NickBurnsFPV lol, no drink required, I enjoy the lengthy thorough reviews. As far as I could tell you got it all covered very well
@@CalleyyyC Ah very well. Thank you
🙌🙌 So excited for these goggles! And I watched all 40:09! 🥂
One of the best reviews I have seen on these new goggles. 👌 Great information and overviews 🤟
Thank you. Appreciate the compliment.
The TRRS plugs stands for tip ring ring sleeve.
Seriously considering those googles, but 500usd + analog bay + analog module is still for me a too big investment. Specially because I'm quite happy with analog's penetration and colors (if you use a modern cam) on my old and trusty sky02 googles. But I agree that if I wanted to update, hdzero is the way to go.
I do agree. If we are happy with what we have we should enjoy it rather than “chase” an unnecessary change
already ordered mine. i was saving and waiting a new batch, but we got a fantastic price right now
Nice. I am sure you will be enjoying them. Please let me know what you experience.
You had me at optics.
Thanks for video, been waiting for this one, I could have watched it easily even if it was longer, there's just so much good stuff in these goggles. Of note was a Ryan Quellet video a few days back or so, mentioning Picture in Picture using HDZero and Analog inputs. I was blown away by that possability. Nice deeper dive into these, it looked like you were having a blast with the Basseline, nice tease there heh. I'm deffinatley sold on these goggles. I just checked out Botgrinders take on them, yeah these are the ones to have. And now 100$ less, it just keeps getting better. Going to be pulling the trigger on these in the next few weeks for sure. Have fun, looks like you are really enjoying these! Cheers!
Whoa Picture in Picture, I will need to investigate that. Or was he talking about the ability to tweak the color saturation etc with a Picture in Picture view?
@@NickBurnsFPV I don’t think it’s implemented yet. But I’m keeping my eyes open for more info. There was no demo just how to use an analog vtx for the audio. I had to watch it a few times to make sure.
@@amin0_acid310 Gotcha. Thank you.
Awesome news.Thanks for review 👍👍👍
HDMI in and out 👍👍 Awesome overview, Nick.
fatshark greg always said either hdmi in or out, with a fat grin...lol
Loved the review but I just can’t get passed the flatness of the picture quality on the HD Zero. I love my DJI V1s still. The picture quality I get is still amazing.
Yea everyone has different priorities
I find myself having a hard time figuring out what system to use/buy. I just CLEARLY watched Evan Turner RIP a track up with DJI 03/Tiny Trainer.
Yes, it can be a super confusing topic. If we have other FPVers in the area its always best to try for ourselves. Otherwise its up to our research, and budget vs feature/video system. If you have other questions for me please let me know I will do my best to provide a balanced response.
Nick, I hope that was an affiliate link you gave, because I just dropped a bundle for the Goggles with FreeStyle combo. Caught me at just the right time, because newer DJI 2 Goggles seems to be a snoozer, as I already have the V2.
It was 😁👌👊. I hope the hdzero goods enjoy many fun flight with you I have the v1 dji goggles struggling to get something O3 compatible without taking the risk of buying second hand 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Nick. Looks amazing.
Great review, thanks. Great ripping. How was it around the house?🙂
they really did something right with it... the most amazing thing imho would be, if they would base future improved hdzero versions on the same goggle design.. so you could keep the goggles, optics, and just replace the pcb inside the goggles.. cause to be honest, it is a huge waste of resources to buy new goggles everytime a new digital system comes out... it is also expensive, I imagine that new pcb revisions could be sold for a decent price in the future. but idk if there is huge potential or not with this hd system... I hope so..
all that being said, they do have a really good price on the goggles.
This will be a long comment... hope you'll still read it.
I really like the HD Zero system. I have the sharkbyte module from nearly the beginning. I really appreciate that it is still updated. The osd elements look exactly the same as in this review with the latest uodate.
I do not know if it is new, but recently I discovered that there is a LED option in the camera setup. It makes flying indoors with lights on (normal case for me) a lot nicer! It reduces the halo effect of if not fully eleminating it (I only have LEDs in my house).
For the goggles I still have one point never mentioned that is keeping me away from getting them.
I am a 4:3 flyer but the goggles have 16:9 screens.
In many reviews 4:3 is used. In this review it is easy to realize, that the osd elemets are even outside the camera picture.
Doesn't the screen appear to be "small" in 4:3? It is true that I have sometimes issues to see the corners in my SKY04X! But I could use the mode with a small picture... what I do not do as I prefer the bigger screen with maybe cut corners to the small picture.
The same is valid for 16:9. In 16:9 I see clear all coners in the SKY04X, but the height is too low in my opinion.
Could you compare the SKY04X picture with the HDZero goggle both showing 16:9 and 4:3? In 4:3 the SKY04X in small and normal size mode?
Does the 4:3 picture seem to be smaller to you than in the SKY04X?
Sorry fot the long comment...
Happy HD flying!!!
The HDZero screens are larger than the 04x, with that even at 4:3 it appears larger than the 04x screens. There is also a coming feature to reduce the screen size, either as a preference or for full visual. The OSD elements can only be outside of the camera view in the case of using the hdzero video transmission system. I also expect to see the ability to move the hdzero osd elements around on screen as well. Its a very flexible system with performance being the focus of the developers. In my 3 weeks with the goggles I have seen more than 5 firmware updates and a 6th I didn't apply before the review. I hope that helps some. Please let me know if there are additional items
I appriciate your answer but imho it is actually not representing the specs.
The FOV for both goggles are given with 46°.
I far as I know this is for both the max. horizontal FOV.
With the given display ratios and with the Skyzone cutting top and bottom for 16:9 while HDZero is cutting the sides for 4:3 this results into the following FOVs
Goggle ratio FOV horizontal vertical resolution
Skyzone 4:3 46° 35.3° 1280x960
HDZero 4:3 35.3° 26.9° 1440x1080
Skyzone 16:9 46° 26.9° 1280x720
HDZero 16:9 46° 26.9° 1920x1080
This is just the math relying on the specs.
According to this the FOV (not the resolution, that is higher on HDZero) on 4:3 is bigger in the Skyzones while being equal in 16:9.
So, if the 4:3 in the HDZero apprear bigger than th3 4:3 in the Skyzone, I am wrong.
Can you explain me were the mistake could be?
@@flydayone_svalher The match all looks good to me. it would be great to boil down everything to easy to ready numbers. I go by my experience and report that in the video. The 04x are very good goggles. My experience comparing the visual between the two is the hdzero goggles have a better, clear, clean and larger visual experience. I did compare the 0x4 as well as the other goggles I have that have hdmi in to the hdzero goggles.
I really appreciate your opinion!
That's the reason I wonder what is wrong!
But I believe I found the answer.
The given FOV is always for the diagonal.
With this the table would be:
Skyzone 4:3 46° 1280x960
HDZero 4:3 38.3° 1440x1080
Skyzone 16:9 46° 1280x720
HDZero 16:9 42.6° 1920x1080
Coser but still...
I would just have loved a 4:3 panel.
Anyhow, not that anybody get me wrong. I am a big fan of the system and soon I'll see myself as the order is already placed.
I just wonder why the felt FOV can be bigger in the HDZero goggles.
Last correction... did this in the night and mixed the values for both goggles in 16:9
Skyzone 4:3 46° 1280x960
HDZero 4:3 38.3° 1440x1080
Skyzone 16:9 42.6° 1280x720
HDZero 16:9 46° 1920x1080
The values are rounded and confirmed by Ryan Quillet.
So unluckily I am right and in 4:3 the FOV of the HDZeros is smaller.
For sure this is subjective... but I would have loved a bigger FOV in 4:3. I believe 4:3 is better ratio for FPV... at least for me.
Oh Darn. After this review I think I picked the wrong horse. Maybe I should have gone HD Zero instead of Walksnail. More thinking required. Great video as always and watched to the end.
Hey if your happy with them that is what matters most.
The white QX7 'ish goggles, 👍👍👍
There is a reason not to buy them: glasses.
These look amazing and would be an instabuy for me, except that I'm basically stuck with my Skyzone Cobra because they work so well with my glasses. I'm not really complaining - the Cobra are good, and do have HDMI in. The menu is a bit confusing though, as you mentioned.
Ah yes good point. Custom diopters are available...at a price :(
Nick is hdzero Anolog that much better than fatshark HDO if you are only looking to upgrade your anoglog googles? Only use analog for my whoops. DJI in my bigger quads. Moving to whoops more and more. Thanks, great video.
damm Nick, now that the swing is gone your are more aggressive it seems like.. I LIKE IT.. doing the flippy flops a lot more. your one of the best reviewers in FPV..
Thank you. Appreciate the compliment.
Love the video Nick! I was looking for a battery and even though the RadioMaster 6200 doesn't seem to be available anywhere... I found the older 5000mAh to be a steal at newbeedrone @ 15.99 each which I bought 2 packs. The difference seems to be a 30 minute difference. 5ah / (15w / 7.2) == 2.5 hours where 6.2ah is 3 hours. Bought 2 batteries for the cost of one. Excellent videos as always and thank you for sharing the battery you used as I was having a hard time find a good solution. I guess I could make a xt30 cable which would take 2 batteries in parallel for a total of 5 hours... but that is probably overkill....lol
Great review 👏
Thank you
perfect video to watch while working :D
I enjoyed this feature-length presentation. I bet editing it was a beast :) Glad you're liking the goggles too -- I'm just so impressed every time I use them. The quality is better than I had hoped, and for a first-gen product from HDZero it's unbelievable. The open source nature and Linux subsystem on the goggle is also totally unprecedented in terms of the changes and improvements I think we can expect to see as the community gets them in hand.
They feel like the promises Orca made in their first goggle coming to reality with better hardware, optics and flexibility. Editing was very time consuming and picking what flights to use...sheesh long process. Rendering a 4k 40 minute video also took a long time as well as uploading a 14GB file. All day process.
They look pretty good bot. Anything is better than giving dji a dime! Analog forever
Even flying a number of different products I do find I fly analog at least 50% of the time or more when i am just flying for me rather than for video purposes. I might be less sensitive to the HD image quality for a multitude of reasons. I think these will enhance the flight videos on the channel with that high quality dvr. I also feel much less like I am wearing fpv goggles, its like I am not wearing goggles, but maybe a home theater.
Thanks, Nick. If the Eachine EV800 box goggles were the knuckle draggers on the human evolution scale, these HDZero goggles are the upright bipedal. Got mine yesterday. So impressed with the picture quality, interface, and the build quality of these goggles. Funny thing, I still could not see all four corners of the screen.😀
Oh shoot. About how much do you estimate is out of view?
@@NickBurnsFPV Only very very little on 16x9. See all corners on 4x3. Did not bother me at all when I flew. HDZ is still much superior to the HDO, EV200D, EV100, and EV800.
@@slackerinmotion Not be a jerk or offensive. Would you say your eyes are set wide? Wondering in what situations one might experience corner cutoff.
@@NickBurnsFPV No offense at all. The IPD adjusters are not max'ed out; both optics are individually focused and centered. I even pressed the goggles hard onto my face so my eyeballs are closer to the lens, still see slightly fuzzy round corners on 16x9 but the four edges are sharp and straight. I attribute this "tunnel" vision to my age. Therefore, I am immune to FOV marketing mumbo-jumbo. 😀
@@slackerinmotion Good to know. Thank you
Old video, but I'm just now looking into HDZero and naturally I came to Nick Burns. Anyway, how's the range with HDZ for you? Can you go around the house or out into the cul de sac with decent video?
It will really depend on which vtx and what we might consider decent video. HDZero does not have the penetration or retransmissions that other hd video systems do, so the video won't be as good with hdzero as those when flying around the front of the house or in the cul de sac, but it certainly can do it at 200mw and above.
This seems like a no brainer
Love the review!
Thank you
I ordered these...can't wait to upgrade a drone and use them. Can you do a video with pic-in-pic of your finger moves on your controller?
I have several on the channel. Here is one ruclips.net/user/shortsvUSpozVtg7g
Finally I can play all my snes roms on my fpv goggles
lol, that is something I haven't done :)
Hi Nick and happy new year. So this was a really great review of the HD Zero goggles and related stuff i am really happy to hear that the quality of the optics is really good - I had heard that somewhere and this is a big deal, especially the fact that you mention that all you see when you put them on is a rectangular screen, edge to edge, and not much else - that is going to make the experience that much more immersive.
Geez, I finally had enough money at the end of the year to buy a set of DJI Goggles V2 and I am super happy but I can't help but feel like I might have been better off going with HD Zero... well, at least it is hard to complain about the DII goggles, they are pretty good and of course the link is really really good, at least for me it should or will be really good.
I am not that quick with my reaction times so I don't think I will ever need super low latency but perhaps I am wrong and latency is even more important for someone with slower reflexes... eh, all I can say is I am super happy and grateful that i finally have the DJI's after waiting about 2 years (money has been, um, tight...) but darn if the human in me doesn't keep saying "but I want that..." funny the way we are programmed right? Cheers.
The image quality that we get in the dji goggles is really really good no doubt. It would be so cool if dji made a vrx, but I don't suspect they want to save anyone in fpv any money. latency can be a bit of an argument starter. Most find a way to adapt or they natively adjust. I think its harder for me bouncing from system to system. I do feel more in control or "connected" when I am flying analog or hdzero, I suspect that feeling is the latency, but it could also be the weight as I am often flying something with smaller than 3inch props. I say if your happy with what you have we should enjoy it and not chase the upgrades....unless that keeps us happy :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the reply. One of the things I was talking about is how funny human nature is - after waiting a couple years to get what is arguably one of the currently best FPV systems available that I would start to feel a bit of buyers remorse and to be jealous of the HD Zero stuff.
In fairness to me I was strongly attracted to the HD Zero system and knew that the new goggles would be amazing but when DJI made the goggles only $429 well - they got me!
Also - if you read this far I recently came across a charger that to me has to be one of the best values as well as one of the best capability and feature packed chargers out there and it would be awesome if you checked it out and did a review on it. They have 2 versions that I like - Both are B6 chargers, one is a Duo charger meaning it has 2 charging ports and the other is called the Nex and that one is super cool as due to the technology they used it is very small and powerful. They both have 1000ma balance current specs which means these will have pretty fast charge times.
Anyway, I have nothing to do with anyone or anything I just really like these chargers and I think they could be great tools for FPV. I am designing a quad myself and it is fairly innovative but I am ways away from talking or showing anyone the design let alone proof of how it will perform but I think it will be cool as I can actually claim that there are zero quads that I have ever seen that would be like it. Cheers!
@@genjitsu7448 Is this one of those chargers? www.skyrc.com/Charger/Compact/b6nex
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes - exactly. The GaN tech is AWESOME - I have it in my Toolkit RC Benchtop power supply the thing is tiny yet 30v and 10A!.
If I just did not get an ISDT K4 (nice charger, powerful is its defining feature!) I would be getting one of these. Perhaps I will get one for travel as it is really small yet notably powerful. I wish the GaN model came in a dual port config but I will take it as is.
Also the Bluetooth conn. and software that goes with it is much better than what i got with my ISDT - it is actually quite disappointing as the K4 is arguably their top charger yet I think some of their lower spec chargers have better software... but hopefully they will catch up on this aspect of modern chargers. However that ISDT can charge 8 cells and do it with up to 600 watts PER CHANNEL! Yikes that is a lot of power. It can also be used as a power supply. So my charger can power my other chargers!
So I just think this is one of the best chargers that I have come across (I am usually very obsessed when researching stuff so believe me when I say I came across just about every single brand and model of charger available and this one is a clear stand out.) and I wish I found it before I bought a different one.
So I am being a bit of a whiner here, the K4 is a big deal in it's own right, I am just bummed as I thought the backend software was going to be much better than it is.
Anyway as a mechanical engineer I am just the kind of person that is always looking at tech and I really appreciate innovation and value. Cheers!
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, exactly. This one has the GaN tech making it super small yet still very powerful. Not unlike the Toolkit RC 30V 10A benchtop power supply with GaN. What works great so I would imagine that the Skyrc one would also be great. Cheers!
Wow, you are super excited! I am used to a more reserved review, but...must be good. I just got Eachine EV300O V2 thru Banggood last week and the Skyzone 04L V2 (339 sale)....these are leaps ahead of the Skyzone 02O ( two faceplate, two cushions, IPD and focal adjustments )....Spent almost 800, 😂, on both. Are they worth it, of course. But NOW I gotta wait 5 months to get these....
Ouch.. I've been looking for weeks at the different systems/goggles, Nicks review or usage report finally filled in some blanks, nothing else out there like them.
It did feel a bit odd to edit the video. I was very fortunate to get some reasonable to good weather and fly outside. We had that cold burst and I really felt like flying inside wasn’t the full experience. Very lucky.
Great review thank u i did order them lol.
Thanks for this very detailed and well made video. So, what is your preference now for whoops? Digital or analog? My first impression from HDZero was that all the hassle with external VRX and flashing VTX Firmware and so on was not worth the slightly better image. But the new Goggles and advanced OSD might change that - do they?
I still fly 50% analog over all other systems. That includes whoops.
For anyone else considering these you will be waiting till March at the very least. Edit: HDZero updated website to indicate the pre-order status.
Hey Nick, a great review as always and a great set of goggles which I plan on ordering soon. Just a quick question regarding the RadioMaster battery you showed. Being a Lipo wouldn't there be a problem if that battery was left in a high state of charge, given we normally use storage charge for Lipo batteries?
For our goggles batteries the potential damage is minimal. And we either have another large battery to manage the voltage on or accept the minimal damage. in the studies I have seen if our lipos are left at full charge for about a month the capacity and performance can degrade by 2%. Google batteries really don't need to "perform" as their discharge rate is pretty slow vs the high discharge rate for our quad batteries.
I actually started thinking about it and now it's really funny. FatShark held HDZero back, remember. So last year it was the HDZero VTX. This year, the Open Source Goggles, that's meant to put FatShark and other Goggle manufacturers out of business.
Remember, the interview of the CEO of HDZero, (I'm sorry, I forget his name), but essentially, he said -- "I want to sell the chip". He never really wanted to make money from VTX's or Goggles, not the way FatShark depends on.
I guess he get's the last laugh. As a firmware developer, with a resin printer, an FDM printer, and board experience, this is basically a wet-dream piece of electronics for me.
Whoa you seem to have all the knowledge and experience to make these googles even more unique
I was really close to buy a pair myself, i miss fly my small ones.. Then i have to switch couple drones from DJI. I really want a pair of goggles that can handle analog and HD at the same time and yet have a small formfactor. This might be my new ones. I'll deside when my pay comes this month :P
Great review as always
Thank you. Fingers crossed for a larger than normal pay check :)
lol I did forget about Orqa HD systems!
yes, where is it? Orqa has gone silent on the topic.
Great review, will you do a simple test if the new goggle gives u better penetration vs the old vrx? thkx man
So for a first timer getting into fpv, having no equipment or hardware, Do u suggest DJI or the Hdzero?
Compelling. If I replace my 04L goggles, this is high on my list. I hate the sky zone menu. This one is nice
The skyzone menu was actually a step up from the FatShark menu :) Skyzone brought in color and a scroll wheel
Great review. Are you going to do a review on the Walksnail VRX?
I plan to. What sort of video are you looking for on it.
@@NickBurnsFPV I would like to hear what you personally think of Walksnail vs HdZero. I like both systems. I mostly fly micros, so hdzero is very high on my list. But then Walksnail came out with relatively light and small vtxs, which I thought was totally awesome. I like micros but I don't mind going up to 3.5 or even 4 inch props if I have to, in order to get a decent digital experience. For those of us who like micros and smaller quads, dji is mostly out of the question. So we are left to decide between hdzero and walksnail. Both systems are awesome imo and I would probably be happy with either. I already know the specs about both systems, so a video explaining each system is not what I would like to see from you, Nick. I would really appreciate a video of you explaining how you feel about each of those systems and how you feel about them, considering your style of flying and the kinds of quads that you like to fly. I'm interested in your take of these two systems. I already own analog goggles that I like (Fatshark Scout), so don't need my new digital goggles to be able to run analog as well. However I wanna know how you feel about the new analog deinterlacer on the hdzero goggles. Notice any improvements over the traditional deinterlacers? Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
I did the pre-order thing. When you said they were going down $100 my earlobes turned red and veins started bulging on my forehead. Then I found out they'll be issuing $100 store credits and my blood pressure dropped 🙃 😅.
Great goggles!
Yes, I didn't have or missed the store credit. Seems like we would need to get at least a vtx or camera with our new goggles right? Or no?
@@NickBurnsFPV Hey Nick, this is what I've found out. Store credits are going out but only a few at a time for some reason. Here's what I've heard, Pre-order people (me) are getting a $105 credit and beta testers (you 😒) are only getting $75. Not sure of why there is a difference. I'm thinking about a "whoop" VTX with a 14mm Runcam nano camera. I've got the rest of the parts already to build a Pachray 3" yard cruiser.
@@Terry12345 Ah think you for the information. Those of us that got a discount will get the reduced store credit as we received a 25% discount upfront.
its funny, i would treat these goggles like my baby, but i have little quarrel throwing my $750 smartphone around like a toy XD
Its amazing how I hear of the most expensive thing we have in fpv...goggles getting broken. I don't understand how it happens so much.
These are the one
for me they certainly are. Unless I am flying DJI
You’re a doozy as him as me very interested in these goggles! Thanks for the great coverage.
I’m currently working on building a tiny little flyer and I’m having a hard time finding M2 X 3mm screws. Where do you buy your tiny hardware?
I will look on amazon and often have to buy kits including sizes I don't like. I have also bought a host of different screws on ebay. A more specialty screw was the m1.4 6mm, 8mm 10mm. Those I believe were ebay only and a wait for arrival about 3 weeks.
I'm pretty sure the Walksnail Avatar goggles do HDMI out over the USB port. I gotta test this now..
They do. I failed in that regard, but tried to offer a correction in the pinned comment.
I'd like to see a comparison to fat shark analog from the inside. I dont have a way of trying the hd zeros without buying a bunch of stuff. I'm not sure how much better they are.
Fat Shark analog? Do you mean to use the 5 year old fatshark module for video reception? Or comparing analog to hdzero? I am confused, for analog I am using the same module on the hdzero goggles that I used on my Orqa goggles.
Really hating the CAD->USD exchange rate right now 🙃
Hot diggidy, a price drop and back in stock? Well well well, that's a great way to start the new year. Definitely the goggles I'll be picking up as soon as I clear off some bills and whatnot. I need that puppy with the analog bay, and I guess I'll need to buy a rapidfire module too... I wonder if the skyzone stuff works on that...
The rapidfire might be harder to get than the goggles. I have had several ask me where to find one. Sad days.
@@NickBurnsFPV I noticed this as well while shopping around. Ah well, at least the goggles are a good start and I still have my old box analog ones for now until I can find a module...
@@Latchfpv Positive outlook, kind of rare sometimes :)
Nice goggles, but unfortunately the HDZero image quality is not on par with Walksnail. Personally I like an all in one goggle for the system I fly, which is WS for this reason (I also have the HDZero VRX). Adding an external vrx is only useful when you already have an older pair like Skyzones or Fatshark, not when you're buying new ones. I got my WS goggles for 509$ in the November sale’ which still is a better deal for me. But do these HDZero goggles have one or two oled screens?
2 oled. How do u even just use 1 screen
@@user-yk1cw8im4h Are you sure? Did you ever tried DJI (v1) or WS goggles? They have all just one oled screen.
@@MrJoris666 perhaps i still live in the past, as all fatsharks have 2 screens back then.
@@user-yk1cw8im4h Indeed, the analogue goggles had two, the new digital ones (WS, DJI) just one, hence my question about the Hdzero goggles.
I am waiting for version 2 of these version 1 doesn't have a provision for the wifi feature , and yes I will be getting a set. I'm sick of waiting for Orqa to finish making the modual for the pro.rapid 2 is for older stuff. These have the 270 gyro in it so I believe you can program it for power saving and auto on.
They’re making a version 2 of Hdzero goggles ?
I think I know what the next drone reviewed is gonna be!
lol. yeppers.
The face plates: Should they touch from left to right evenly? Goggles come without foam attached so how do you size the face plates without fitting the foam? Second issue is the Analog adapter, there is a place to screw the adapter to the goggles but no screw was included with the HDZero adapter, did my screw get lost? The Lumenier AXII2 antenna pair had a 90 and 45 degree adapter, with the Rapidfire and HDZero goggles it needs two 90 degree adapters. You state "a separate power on/off switch" the HDZero module does not have a switch, what module are you talking about? I purchased the HDZero Sharkbyte TrueRC combo (didn't read pass HDZero) not the HDZero Goggle antenna, more wait time. Started this journey in January, goggles arrive April 6th.
as to no screw I can't say. I would contact support. Most can dry fit the face plate to make a choice to which one fits their face better then apply the foam. The v2 of the analog adapter has a switch, as well as the overall goggle has a switch, but yes there is no switch to power off the HDZero receiver.
I don't understand why people would use a 6s battery direct into electronics that are designed to run 8v or so from 2s. Why not get a battery for your goggles, they aren't that expensive!
Yea, I don't know why that seems to be an issue. I can only guess is an issue of out flying a 6s quad and didn't bring or don't have any less than 6s batteries.
You could use "spent" 6s batteries you just flew that are too empty to keep flying on but fine for low power use I guess? Idk why you'd use a fully charged 6s though.
Thanks for the awesome video NIck! I read in the specs that the 4:3 mode has a FOV of 37 degrees or so. How does that feel when you compare it to Orqa's 45 or so FOV? Do you notice see a big difference?
I haven't use the orqa fpv one goggles much as the field of view is smaller than the previous version. The hdzero goggles appear larger. The original orqa goggles have a larger fov but the corners I can't see and the screens/panels aren't as good. It is likely the hdzero goggles will give us the ability to decrease the screen size one day. This comes in handy for those that can't see the corners of the hdzero goggle screens. Its not implemented or even beta yet. This was a feature orcq does have in the fpv pilot goggles but its only one size rather than the ability to select a granular size reduction. I have heard from one person they were not able to see the very edges of the corners in the hdzero goggles.
$495 is REALLY REALLY interesting.
brings it under the 04x v2 price. Petty compelling.
I just wanna know where you found them for $495. I can't find them anywhere for less than $600.