I happened to buy the wrong remote with the Radiomaster Pocket CC 2500 type, I should have bought a remote with the Radiomaster Pocket Elrs type for my drone. Can the Radiomaster Pocket CC2500 remote be changed to Type Elrs? And if you change it to Elrs, how many kilometers can the drone's flight distance reach? Please help🙏
Been out of the FPV game for years, coming back in it's great to watch a JB video. You present and educate well Joshua. I hope you and your family are doing well mate. Take care.
@Joshua Bardwell I really liked this review from you. I bought this radio from Rotor Riot. Since the radio did not come with batteries, off I went to my local battery store and bought a couple of 18650's and they would not fit this radio, upon research I found out that some 18650 are longer that others. If they are "protected" they are longer than the non protected. I think this is something that should have been mentioned saving a new person just getting into FVP and extra cost. Now I am back to square 1 and am trying to locate some unprotected 18650's. Regards, JAM in Fort Wayne IN.
I ended up with four of the "defective product" you were talking about. They refused not to send replacements and didn't care that I had cancelled my second preorder. Radiomaster customer support is beyond awesome 😎
That's after telling them that I didn't need anymore boards, if that didn't come across initially. IMO anyone can get a Radio master RC and just feel safe that they'll have absolutely outstanding customer service should something go wrong. Not usual these days.
@BiB_FPV Your statement has two negative remarks -> "refused & not to send replacements." Do you mean the product (Radiomaster pocket) and the vendor (Radiomaster) SUCKS? If you're respond is YES, then I will not click this guy's youtube videos anymore, so as not to add the view count. I will now add my one thumbs up to your comment. Thanks.
@@paternos5033 No absolutely the other way around :) I told them "nah, I don't need the replacement because I already have one". But they still sent it. So in essence, I paid for one module and ended up with four working boards. Radiomaster has been nothing but amazing every time I've dealt with them.
I have a fully moded taranis and a jumper T lite. I don't use the taranis, I love the portability so much. I don't mind compromising on the small gimbals at all. I just ordered this one to upgrade the jumper
I like these for just the size. Build out a tiny whoop bag with this radio and farshark goggles. Nice and small package unlike my big bag with my full size radio and dji goggles.
this! i dont know why people say ELRS is complicated. flash the latest firmware on receiver and Radio and while you flash set up a bindig phrase. turn the radio on, turn the quad on. boom. connected. done. my 5 y/o daughter could do this
@@Todd_G_FPV No. elrs is just a protocol for transmitting your stick commands (and of course everything else like switch positions or button presses) to the drone. Elrs can also receive telemetry data from your drone like battery voltage and displays these values on your radio. The vtx is a complete different circuit often on another board and can only send the video signal from the camera (mixed with some osd info from the flight controller) to your goggles.
I pre-ordered this radio as my first radio with ELRS. I'm sure once get more into flying I'll buy something else but this was a cheaper option just to get me started.
thanks for summarizing edge tx so succinctly! It's one of those things that "everyone just knows" but a quick summary is really useful for newbies short on time! ❤
I pre ordered this for a few reasons. Let me set the scene. I've been flying for 4 years. Had a qx7 then a x9d then went to Tango2 for it's small form factor and non breakable switches. Also i didn't want an external module. Since i switched to elrs i was intrigued by the Pocket. Small, no long switches and no ext. mod. Now, i pinch. For the T2 i had to print a longer lanyard hitch to make the radio hang forward. Away from me. That way i don't have to actually hold the thing. It just hangs where i want it and leaves hands free to move. I anticipate that i can do the same with the Pocket. Thanks for this review. On point as usual with zero waffle 👍
Man, I couldn't figure out how to use the qx7 with a radiomaster elrs module so I ended up buying this pocket and hoping for better results when it comes lol
Joshua, thank you for this video. You helped me find a radio for my son. This radio seemed perfect for my son who has tiny little hands--he is ten years old and he is not the president now or in the past.
As someone with smaller hands, I can't wait. I love the size and shape of the Flysky i6x, just fits my hands really well. My TX16S, despite being so much better in many ways, (and my decade old Spektrum DX6i has the same issue) is just uncomfortable for me and I really struggle with full reach on the sticks. Just a shame it doesn't seem to have a way to externally toggle the spring on the throttle as I use my radios for all sorts of different models, not just drones/planes.
You can actually. The "L-R" screws on the back under the battery cover (one each side). Turn clockwise to disable self-centering, turn counterclockwise to enable self-centering.
Budget is not an argument. At least now (end oct 23), at least in ES. Here you pay same but in euro + extra for elrs + battaries + shipping + paypal commission... and unexpectedly I have paid 110 eurofor preorder .. Note, I've bought jumper tpro2 at aliexpress for 110dollars including shipping...
Nice radio, I will stick with my jumper T-Lite V1 with external ELRS, since I love the form factor and I am a thumber. I did break a switch when it fell on concrete, so I ordered spares and since I have to take it appart, nicer gimballs for it, and a lanyard screw, just to personalize it a bit and make it less likely to fall on the floor again.😊
don't game controller chuck anything.... I am a game dev and I need every controller for testing. I dropped my PS5 controller from 2 feet off the ground one time, and one time only... and it never was the same, I had to buy a new one because the left stick had a infinite drift from that point on... (and trust me i know it was 1 single drop, i store all my dev controllers in a desk that they never go anyhwere). maybe its just the PS5 controller is fragile and crap but it is what it is...
Perfect review!! But it's the best cheap radio that came too late for me (i am the guy that was looking for a durable/small, throw-in-your-bag transmitter). I was in for the Zorro, but it was out of stock all the time, lived with my huge TX16S until i decided to get a Jumper T-Lite 2 just a week before the Pocket launched. And i am happy despite the gimbals: the small size is more important for me and im still a sh*t pilot, no matter the gimbals :D
I have one since a few months, I got a prototype unit. It is my go to radio for business trips. You can just throw it into the backpack and do some sim flying in the evening. The kids also love it for flying.
I am all 3 kinds of people at once, kinda. I guess my hands are average size, but I like to be able to access ALL the switches and controls without moving my hands at all or taking my eyes off my plane. The Pocket and the Zorro fulfill that for me. They are just very confortable to hold and everything is exactly where it should be (to my liking). Since getting the Zorro and the Pocket, my NX8 feels like a monstrous clumsy brick in my hands, no thanks! Same for my buddy's Taranis I flew the other day. Nice radio, but way too big, heavy and complicated for me. But my point is, this radio is not JUST for beginners. Some of us experienced RC pilots want a small and lightweight radio that is uncluttered while being fully capable of getting the job done and I DONT have to worry about it getting knocked around at the field. I don't want or need 1,000 switches, color touch screen, or any expensive whizz bang nonsense to impress the next guy how much I spent. I know guys who spend all this money thinking "expensive means good" and yet they don't know how to even use the radio they have. Pffft! What I want is durability, capability, flexibility and simplicity. Both the Zorro and Pocket solidly deliver all of the above at a great price. Bottom line: Get the radio you like best, with the features you want and what suits your purpose. Dont ever let anyone tell you you should or shouldn't like or buy this or that. Do what's right for YOU and enjoy it. The Pocket is NOT just for beginners, but it IS for rc pilots looking for small lightweight simple and durable - oh and surprisingly unexpensive, too!
19:51 you said "lower" latency but you meant "higher" as in increased latency at 50hz. Just want to thank you for showing someone who knows nothing about RC and has been wanting to get into it recently a pretty solid choice for my very first radio. Trying to understand everything to the point of me making my own plane has been a hard path and videos like these show casing what new people should be looking into is awesome. The RUclips RC/FPV community def needs more people getting newer people into the sport as there isn't much documentation out there that dumbs it down for alot of us so its been tens of hours of research.
Lol. Not a beginner, but I appreciate having more space in my backpack for other things, and frankly it doesn't matter what EdgeTX radio you have, they all do the same thing and you can adapt to every one of them. I started on a Zorro, and all I ended up wanting was a smaller, less awkwardly shaped radio.
Got my Pocket and love it. I wish to get AG01 gimbals for it. Yes I know its cost almost twice of the radio, but I got Pocket due to its cool form factor. Original gimbals not bad at all, more like i like make it a little premium feel.
Well after 6 months how is it? I just ordered the fcc elrs version with a module that allows me to bind to different receivers. Switching from my eachine branded lite radio 2
@@filipehenry4340 yas it works perfectly, idk how about mhz, cc2500 module attached to it works and my drone fly with really good range, i didnt tried the fcc yeat... I bought fcc so i would be future proof, because if you buy cc2500, and the fcc module, fcc module is very weak compared to one if you buy integrated... So i advice hou to buy controller a fcc and then cc2500 on top of it
Just smacked my remote hard on concrete a few hours ago. Still working, but something is ratteling inside, very suspcious. Love a remote review right now:)
@@JoshuaBardwell lol makes me feel better. That was only 2 months ago. I've been watching for years and this would only add to my wife's claim I don't pay enough attention. 🙃 Also happy you aren't sick of fpv!
Nail on the head. I bought it for, first time FPV, cost, and to pass onto my sons who have smaller hands - after I get proficient to buy a better/bigger unit. It is cramped for me at times on the sim (i am a carpenter so i have sausage fingers)
This product chucking is getting familiar. Toughest equipment testing I guess. I was an aircraft mechanic, and my boss never said anything like that, cuz he flew them….at night….at three feet and seventy mph…..around power lines and trees and houses. 😊
Yas 🙏 my tx16s fell of my desk broke all the front switches 😢 I want to be able to put my guard and gear in a back pack without the huge Carry box for my radio I want some rugged gear for hiking to the spot to fly 🤷🏼♂️
Great review. I've been using a zorro since release but have always been disappointed with the use of 18350's. I use a cable and have a 3000mah 2s in my pocket so it's not a deal breaker but it'd be nice to not have to. At this price I might pick one of these up and try it out. Probably be good to have a spare anyway.
I had the same issue with Zorro, and think that was a bad call by Radiomaster on an otherwise phenomenal product. So, my buddy 3D printed a little battery case for me that piggybacks on the nano mount and exactly holds 2 18650s for Aux power. If you solder up 2 18650s (3400s) in series (careful!) it's a great solution! You can find good examples of the piggyback case online if you 3D print or have a friend who does.
Trying to get all the stuff i need to fly some drones around, so i ordered this radio today. I wasnt sure If i made the right choice, I was going to get the Jumper T lite (I think it was ha), but after watching this video i feel better about my decision. Cant wait to get it and try it out ha.
I got big hands but dont really care as long as the pocket can withstand being manhandled. Not to mention since its using hall effect makes this the best cheap radio for me 😊😊😊
Hey, a beginner from Europe here, I've been wanting to get into fpv but there is a limitation to 100mw output in Europe, is that enough? Great video btw, really love this type of information-packed reviews.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ok, thanks a bunch! What about flying indoors (wall penetration, flying on floors below ground level situations, etc.)? Forgot to mention that.
Great review and very informative. I'm new to the hobby and was thinking of using this as my first transmitter. I had a question though, what receivers are compatible with this?
I’m getting this because of the price point and the 18650s over the ones my zorro currently takes, I have other powering options but it’s hard to beat the battery life these two larger batteries will provide in one package
Loving all these videos. Building my first quad, went for the radiomaster pocket and really love it. It has built in elrs. My Flywoo aio board has built in elrs rx. Well, can anyone please tell me how I can activate 12 channels? It appears to be limited to 8 channels. I have been through the menus etc and cannot find an option to change the number of channels. First person to answer correctly will receive my undying gratitude.
Not sure if your guess about the 3 types of people is correct. I have big hands, 20+ years in RC models and I normally take good care of my gear. But I'm still interested in the Pocket because I don´t like taking one of my TX16S on a hike. It is way smaller, and lighter. I just don´t know if I can fly with it... I'm used to have my transmitters in a tray and a tray would again add weight and size to it.... I might give it a try... 🙂
I learned to fly in my TX16S but I knew I would be flying better with something smaller thanks to my tiny raccoon like hands 😂, tried some smaller controllers but they always had some kind of drift, I’m going to give this a try.
So it sounds like for someone like me flying a couple old dsmx quads this radio as a 4n1 with am external elrs module for my new air65/75 Whoops! could be the way to go!
The real question is, since these are on pre-order everywhere, is whether they have a problem or are reliable and if the break easily. No review I've seen answers that. I always wait for the first batch of ANYTHING to come out and find out what people are saying and what they are having problems with. Saves you big time from buying lemons (1st batches). Sometimes, when a new product is released, some bugs are found. Waiting helps you avoid those. Example is practically EVERY SINGLE BetaFPV product ever released! They are notorious for releasing new products defective or with problems. I only buy BetaFPV products with a V3 behind the name... Yes, V2 from them can still have issues! Many times that's been the case.😮😢
Just as an FYI to anyone else looking into these radios, they have announced the AG01 CNC gimbles for the Pocket now. Going to to cost about the same as the controller though, around $60.
Interesting looking little radio. Im considering buying a second to either replace or supplement my TX12. I am leaning towards the Boxer with 1W, but having a cheap radio that I can keep in my truck or as a backup is an interesting prospect.
You have the cheap radio... The TX 12. I can't figure out why people think they need multiple radios. Lol Cuz they just like spending money? A person can only fly with one, so why own more. I've been flying FPV since 2015 and never found a need to buy another radio. I wouldn't leave a radio in your truck or outside at all. Won't be good for it. And how hard is it to just grab your radio as you walk to your truck? Save you money, Bro, and put it towards a new drone or going digital. 😎👍
@@KOrnhOliO1 Personally, I like having backups for most things that are important to me, if I can afford to. I have a backup transmitter and backup goggles. Two is one and one is none as they say. To each his own.
@@kurtzFPV A lot of extra money spent... Especially if your #1 model is working good. I can see having an extra motor for a quad, but having an extra radio and extra goggles? That's a lotta money most guys don't want to spend. I can order another radio or goggles, if mine were to go out, from RDQ, etc and get them in 3-4 days.
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah, I guess it is just two different ways of looking at it. With all the money spent in this hobby, it is worth it to me. As an added bonus, my backup transmitter is small, for if I want to travel very light, and my backup goggles allow me to give ridealongs. The transmitter is not very expensive, and I got a good deal on the second set of goggles when I bought the DJI Potato setup used, but just refreshed, from a camera drone pilot who decided FPV wasn't his thing.
I have a radiomaster boxer.. I love it, 1w is awesome. But i really want a smaller lighter radio so i can hike/travel with tiny quads and not need to lug around the tank that is the boxer.. Prob gonna buy the pocket and run both for a bit i used a LiteRadio 2 for a while and LOVED how small it was. Never really understood the large radios =x all about how you fly
Yea looking to replace t-lite .. never like the gimbals feel. But i like something using smaller radio. And internal elrs be nice now that all my drones except 1 is elrs. I barely fly my tinyhawk 2. I do have 3 elrs 915 drones
Good review. Do you think that maybe the Zorro or Boxer are better Radio than EdgeTx Pocket? I still have my TX16s which I love along with the Futaba 16IZ.
I'm sure you can fly more than 50hz with more than decent range on 250mW of power with elrs, particularly if you're a new pilot you want a smooth experience to feel the quad better, if the gimbals are meh and the latency is meh you're not going to get as smooth an experience as you could, while 1000hz is excessively enthusiastic with this amount of power I'm sure you'd be fine with 250hz
@@Voyajer. It's all a tradeoff, sure you'll get less range but I think it's worth it: especially if you're just starting in the hobby you'd better get a good flight feel at "short" range than go fly far away, the ceramic antenna isn't great but it's enough in most cases
Any chance you will start reviewing FrSky radios again? ETHOS along with the FrSky tandem receivers like the TD MX look like a really good option for 5" quads. You're the guy we go to for the nitty gritty details. If it's good we'd like to know. Same for if it isn't good. I honestly dont make many FPV purchases without first consulting a JB video. I just wish there was a JB video on the new FrSky radios/receivers.
I don't see much chance of that happening. I lost interest in FrSky some time back. It's not something I would use, and it's not something I would recommend others use. Think of it this way: what is the best control link you can get today? Crossfire? ExpressLRS? Whatever your answer, it's definitely not FrSky. And FrSky has repeatedly demosntrated they are willing to screw over their customers when it comes to supporting any 3rd party tech that could compete with Frsky. For the longest time, FrSky did not support ELRS at all. Now they sort of kind of support ELRS, but frankly I wouldn't advise anybody to buy a FrSky radio on the assumption that support will continue.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for the reply. It was worth a shot. You're my go-to for RC knowledge. It was my assumption that FrSky's RC protocols are vastly different now than they were before the community fell out of love with them. They have some charts on their website showing 4ms latency for Archer in race mode. I'm not sure of the distance or reliability of their link thiugh. It would be interesting to have measurable data on ACCESS, Archer, Tandem, etc but I completely understand having a sour taste based on how they abruptly changed their business model and left many long time devotees out in the wind. Thanks for you time. 🙏
@@JoshuaBardwell I wanted to add that I fly crossfire and I dont see myself changing anytime soon. My gear thats not crossfire is R9 gear flashed to ELRS. My two radios are a 2013 OG Taranis and a X-lite. What got me interested is that I am looking to finally upgrade my radio after over a decade and I like FrSky's offerings. I dont intend to use their protocols, was just interested in how things might have changed.
Thank you so much for your awesome review of this radio. I'm just wondering though. Do you know if you can buy a 4 in 1 module for it and if so which one would you buy? Thanks.
If you pull the micro SD card out from the radio while it is on it won't immediately crash because the operating system and model data are all actually loaded into the ram of the radio's computer.
Not totally true that you can use any 18650. You have the with some small differences in length. I found out the hard way for the battery holder for my goggles. The ones from my Fenix flashlight for example where longer and did not fit. It not the difference in button top or flat top. Its really the cell hight.
Thx for the detailed video. I'm looking for a controller I can charge w/ USB c and use for flight sims when volunteering at schools. I see it has batteries but you mentioned they will run down on sim. Teachers also need, easy plug in and use in the classroom, where it recognizes that controller without special programming w/ DRL or Liftoff. Would you recommend zoro or pocketmaster or another manuf? Also ELRS or CC2500 for teachers in the sim?
How good is the range, Joshua? I mean, is it good enough for a park, with lots of trees and interference and such? Good enough for fixed wing flying at eye reach?
Had these drones for over a month. No bind. I got as far as it saying telemetry “connected” I think.. THEN NOT. IT happened fast. And early a.m.. Gave me hope until hours amd hours later.. Reddit rocks and they’re saying faulty radio.. I am a rookie, so what might I be doing incorrect? Elrs pocket to Mobil’s 8 edge tx and hummingbird drone..?
This radio would be perfect with some nicer gimbals. I love the tiny form factor as a thumber and have grown to hate the bulk when transporting my tx16 with the external module
My fingers shake a lot when I am shooting videos for my project. Do you think this radio will suit me given that larger gimbals have more room for errors and jitters.. I currently fly with AG01 mini’s
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this radio has no 915/868 version. No go.
you must clean glue after remove sticker from battery
I happened to buy the wrong remote with the Radiomaster Pocket CC 2500 type, I should have bought a remote with the Radiomaster Pocket Elrs type for my drone. Can the Radiomaster Pocket CC2500 remote be changed to Type Elrs? And if you change it to Elrs, how many kilometers can the drone's flight distance reach? Please help🙏
@@GarengPetrukYou'd be best to try to do a return/exchange through who you bought from.
As soon as you listed the three specific people, I was already on board
0:39 "I'll see you out there Mr. President" - Exactly what I thought in that moment! 🤣😂 Made my day! 🤣
Not even in the market for a radio, just love watching Bardwell so much. Unsurprisingly, I did learn something today.
Gay
@@norushrc you are? That's okay, you're free to be whoever you are.
Bardwell's videos do tend to be entertaining, and I often learn something from them - even after being in the hobby for over 50 years.
@@norushrcthat’s good for you
@@wingsounds13When you try to use what you're defending as an insult.. Tell me you're a smooth brain without telling me.. 😂🤦🏼
Been out of the FPV game for years, coming back in it's great to watch a JB video. You present and educate well Joshua. I hope you and your family are doing well mate. Take care.
@Joshua Bardwell I really liked this review from you. I bought this radio from Rotor Riot. Since the radio did not come with batteries, off I went to my local battery store and bought a couple of 18650's and they would not fit this radio, upon research I found out that some 18650 are longer that others. If they are "protected" they are longer than the non protected. I think this is something that should have been mentioned saving a new person just getting into FVP and extra cost. Now I am back to square 1 and am trying to locate some unprotected 18650's. Regards, JAM in Fort Wayne IN.
I have them by the case over her if still looking
I ended up with four of the "defective product" you were talking about. They refused not to send replacements and didn't care that I had cancelled my second preorder. Radiomaster customer support is beyond awesome 😎
That's after telling them that I didn't need anymore boards, if that didn't come across initially. IMO anyone can get a Radio master RC and just feel safe that they'll have absolutely outstanding customer service should something go wrong. Not usual these days.
@@The_1ntern3t Really ?.
@@rickikilvi5406 Yeah, they are beyond amazing.
@BiB_FPV Your statement has two negative remarks -> "refused & not to send replacements." Do you mean the product (Radiomaster pocket) and the vendor (Radiomaster) SUCKS? If you're respond is YES, then I will not click this guy's youtube videos anymore, so as not to add the view count. I will now add my one thumbs up to your comment. Thanks.
@@paternos5033 No absolutely the other way around :) I told them "nah, I don't need the replacement because I already have one". But they still sent it. So in essence, I paid for one module and ended up with four working boards. Radiomaster has been nothing but amazing every time I've dealt with them.
I have a fully moded taranis and a jumper T lite. I don't use the taranis, I love the portability so much. I don't mind compromising on the small gimbals at all. I just ordered this one to upgrade the jumper
The best review of this radio that I have seen so far. Informative and helpful, without deluging me with jargon.
I like these for just the size. Build out a tiny whoop bag with this radio and farshark goggles. Nice and small package unlike my big bag with my full size radio and dji goggles.
I used to fly 3D Helis with a DX18. Now I have returned to the hobby to fly fpv quads and I must say I found setting up ELRS quite convenient.
this!
i dont know why people say ELRS is complicated. flash the latest firmware on receiver and Radio and while you flash set up a bindig phrase. turn the radio on, turn the quad on. boom. connected. done. my 5 y/o daughter could do this
@skatamartin4970 I'm totally new to fpv, does the elrs act as a vtx but threw the rx/TX of the radio?
@@Todd_G_FPV No. elrs is just a protocol for transmitting your stick commands (and of course everything else like switch positions or button presses) to the drone. Elrs can also receive telemetry data from your drone like battery voltage and displays these values on your radio.
The vtx is a complete different circuit often on another board and can only send the video signal from the camera (mixed with some osd info from the flight controller) to your goggles.
I pre-ordered this radio as my first radio with ELRS. I'm sure once get more into flying I'll buy something else but this was a cheaper option just to get me started.
I don’t know what to upgrade to after the pocket, do I get a boxer, or a TX12. I don’t really want to spend more then $150
@@Ripjaw582 you don't have to get another radio
@@DTN504Oh, Thank you
thanks for summarizing edge tx so succinctly! It's one of those things that "everyone just knows" but a quick summary is really useful for newbies short on time! ❤
Agreed, since people looking for reviews of the cheapest "good" radio are also the most likely to also be newbies.
I pre ordered this for a few reasons.
Let me set the scene. I've been flying for 4 years. Had a qx7 then a x9d then went to Tango2 for it's small form factor and non breakable switches. Also i didn't want an external module.
Since i switched to elrs i was intrigued by the Pocket. Small, no long switches and no ext. mod.
Now, i pinch. For the T2 i had to print a longer lanyard hitch to make the radio hang forward. Away from me. That way i don't have to actually hold the thing. It just hangs where i want it and leaves hands free to move. I anticipate that i can do the same with the Pocket.
Thanks for this review. On point as usual with zero waffle 👍
Man, I couldn't figure out how to use the qx7 with a radiomaster elrs module so I ended up buying this pocket and hoping for better results when it comes lol
Joshua, thank you for this video. You helped me find a radio for my son. This radio seemed perfect for my son who has tiny little hands--he is ten years old and he is not the president now or in the past.
Maybe in future
three specific people : tom, mark and john
eh I only kind of like it
Or in Sweden, Peter, Björn and John. Young folks might not get this.
Tom dick and harry
You meant Tom, Marc and Travis, didn't you?
It's not bad. Mhmm
As someone with smaller hands, I can't wait. I love the size and shape of the Flysky i6x, just fits my hands really well. My TX16S, despite being so much better in many ways, (and my decade old Spektrum DX6i has the same issue) is just uncomfortable for me and I really struggle with full reach on the sticks. Just a shame it doesn't seem to have a way to externally toggle the spring on the throttle as I use my radios for all sorts of different models, not just drones/planes.
get a boxer
You can actually. The "L-R" screws on the back under the battery cover (one each side). Turn clockwise to disable self-centering, turn counterclockwise to enable self-centering.
@@jasonhurdlow6607 oh nice, thank you!
People come up to me with tears in their eyes. They tell me SIR you have the smallest hands.
Haha someone is a fellow Pakman watcher.
Budget is not an argument. At least now (end oct 23), at least in ES. Here you pay same but in euro + extra for elrs + battaries + shipping + paypal commission... and unexpectedly I have paid 110 eurofor preorder .. Note, I've bought jumper tpro2 at aliexpress for 110dollars including shipping...
I was already eyeing this radio. now i am sold for sure.
Nice radio, I will stick with my jumper T-Lite V1 with external ELRS, since I love the form factor and I am a thumber. I did break a switch when it fell on concrete, so I ordered spares and since I have to take it appart, nicer gimballs for it, and a lanyard screw, just to personalize it a bit and make it less likely to fall on the floor again.😊
Hi, I am also using the same radio, what gimbals you ordered and hows the difference
I didnt like how gimbal movements felt. I dont know.
"Now we find out if I broke it"... Bardwell, that was quite a sell for me! You game-controller chucked it, but it was fine! Nice testing!
don't game controller chuck anything.... I am a game dev and I need every controller for testing. I dropped my PS5 controller from 2 feet off the ground one time, and one time only... and it never was the same, I had to buy a new one because the left stick had a infinite drift from that point on... (and trust me i know it was 1 single drop, i store all my dev controllers in a desk that they never go anyhwere). maybe its just the PS5 controller is fragile and crap but it is what it is...
Hi! I just got this radio as my first RC aircraft radio. I'm excited to use it once my airplane's electronics arrive!!
Perfect review!! But it's the best cheap radio that came too late for me (i am the guy that was looking for a durable/small, throw-in-your-bag transmitter). I was in for the Zorro, but it was out of stock all the time, lived with my huge TX16S until i decided to get a Jumper T-Lite 2 just a week before the Pocket launched. And i am happy despite the gimbals: the small size is more important for me and im still a sh*t pilot, no matter the gimbals :D
I have one since a few months, I got a prototype unit. It is my go to radio for business trips. You can just throw it into the backpack and do some sim flying in the evening.
The kids also love it for flying.
I am all 3 kinds of people at once, kinda. I guess my hands are average size, but I like to be able to access ALL the switches and controls without moving my hands at all or taking my eyes off my plane. The Pocket and the Zorro fulfill that for me. They are just very confortable to hold and everything is exactly where it should be (to my liking).
Since getting the Zorro and the Pocket, my NX8 feels like a monstrous clumsy brick in my hands, no thanks! Same for my buddy's Taranis I flew the other day. Nice radio, but way too big, heavy and complicated for me.
But my point is, this radio is not JUST for beginners. Some of us experienced RC pilots want a small and lightweight radio that is uncluttered while being fully capable of getting the job done and I DONT have to worry about it getting knocked around at the field. I don't want or need 1,000 switches, color touch screen, or any expensive whizz bang nonsense to impress the next guy how much I spent. I know guys who spend all this money thinking "expensive means good" and yet they don't know how to even use the radio they have. Pffft!
What I want is durability, capability, flexibility and simplicity. Both the Zorro and Pocket solidly deliver all of the above at a great price.
Bottom line: Get the radio you like best, with the features you want and what suits your purpose. Dont ever let anyone tell you you should or shouldn't like or buy this or that. Do what's right for YOU and enjoy it. The Pocket is NOT just for beginners, but it IS for rc pilots looking for small lightweight simple and durable - oh and surprisingly unexpensive, too!
19:51 you said "lower" latency but you meant "higher" as in increased latency at 50hz. Just want to thank you for showing someone who knows nothing about RC and has been wanting to get into it recently a pretty solid choice for my very first radio. Trying to understand everything to the point of me making my own plane has been a hard path and videos like these show casing what new people should be looking into is awesome. The RUclips RC/FPV community def needs more people getting newer people into the sport as there isn't much documentation out there that dumbs it down for alot of us so its been tens of hours of research.
It's rough for sure but I love it. I'm finally getting past the hurdles of finding places to fly and worry over crashing in fpv
learned pretty much everything fpv from bardwells videos. i would be no where without him.
@@sattyaddy8451 yeah i just got his videos on my recommendations so I'll be watching more of his videos for sure.
LOL @JoshuaBardwell
El Presidente has small hands 🤣
Cheers
Evel-Knievel
Still running the Jumper T12 after all these years, and I still love it.
just received it and it works wonders for small hands people.
Lol. Not a beginner, but I appreciate having more space in my backpack for other things, and frankly it doesn't matter what EdgeTX radio you have, they all do the same thing and you can adapt to every one of them.
I started on a Zorro, and all I ended up wanting was a smaller, less awkwardly shaped radio.
Got my Pocket and love it.
I wish to get AG01 gimbals for it. Yes I know its cost almost twice of the radio, but I got Pocket due to its cool form factor.
Original gimbals not bad at all, more like i like make it a little premium feel.
Great review like always. Just ordered one for my tinyhawk freestyle2 with the cc2500 version. Pretty sure it will serve me well for my needs
Well after 6 months how is it? I just ordered the fcc elrs version with a module that allows me to bind to different receivers. Switching from my eachine branded lite radio 2
@@SuperKREPSINIS this rádio has 868 frequency MHz? Works in Europe
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@@filipehenry4340 yas it works perfectly, idk how about mhz, cc2500 module attached to it works and my drone fly with really good range, i didnt tried the fcc yeat... I bought fcc so i would be future proof, because if you buy cc2500, and the fcc module, fcc module is very weak compared to one if you buy integrated... So i advice hou to buy controller a fcc and then cc2500 on top of it
Its worth noting 1year into the future, when you click the radiomaster link to buy, there is now an option for AG01 Nano CNC hall gimbals. 😀
Just smacked my remote hard on concrete a few hours ago. Still working, but something is ratteling inside, very suspcious. Love a remote review right now:)
i love how you throw the radio
if it weren't for you giving it a short review, i wouldn't give this gadget-looking thingie a second blink!
your awesome man, just the radio i was looking for
Great video! Whats with the "FPV sucks" label on top left on the mat at 1:14? This isn't an "easter egg" way of telling us you are quitting is it?? 😢
It's been there for years
@@ericaschner3283 lol shows how much I pay attention
It's been there since my review of I think the pirat frames Sloop. It came with the frame.
@@JoshuaBardwell lol makes me feel better. That was only 2 months ago. I've been watching for years and this would only add to my wife's claim I don't pay enough attention. 🙃
Also happy you aren't sick of fpv!
Nail on the head. I bought it for, first time FPV, cost, and to pass onto my sons who have smaller hands - after I get proficient to buy a better/bigger unit. It is cramped for me at times on the sim (i am a carpenter so i have sausage fingers)
This product chucking is getting familiar. Toughest equipment testing I guess. I was an aircraft mechanic, and my boss never said anything like that, cuz he flew them….at night….at three feet and seventy mph…..around power lines and trees and houses. 😊
Yas 🙏 my tx16s fell of my desk broke all the front switches 😢 I want to be able to put my guard and gear in a back pack without the huge Carry box for my radio I want some rugged gear for hiking to the spot to fly 🤷🏼♂️
I would like to try this radio on surface trucks specially with 4WS.
Great review. I've been using a zorro since release but have always been disappointed with the use of 18350's. I use a cable and have a 3000mah 2s in my pocket so it's not a deal breaker but it'd be nice to not have to. At this price I might pick one of these up and try it out. Probably be good to have a spare anyway.
I had the same issue with Zorro, and think that was a bad call by Radiomaster on an otherwise phenomenal product. So, my buddy 3D printed a little battery case for me that piggybacks on the nano mount and exactly holds 2 18650s for Aux power. If you solder up 2 18650s (3400s) in series (careful!) it's a great solution! You can find good examples of the piggyback case online if you 3D print or have a friend who does.
Trying to get all the stuff i need to fly some drones around, so i ordered this radio today. I wasnt sure If i made the right choice, I was going to get the Jumper T lite (I think it was ha), but after watching this video i feel better about my decision. Cant wait to get it and try it out ha.
3 people seems like a fairly small market 🤓
I got big hands but dont really care as long as the pocket can withstand being manhandled. Not to mention since its using hall effect makes this the best cheap radio for me 😊😊😊
Now I want a smoke black case for boxer
Big hand man. bought to carry it in backpack. Should last more than previous one :)
Fair warning for those using the PX4 autopilot. The 50hz rate does not work with px4 crossfire driver. It needs to at least be 100hz, preferably 333hz
sir you are ruining christmas i need you to make a video stating the ag01 gimbals will make me a better pilot so i can have them for christmas haha!
Hey, a beginner from Europe here, I've been wanting to get into fpv but there is a limitation to 100mw output in Europe, is that enough?
Great video btw, really love this type of information-packed reviews.
Yes it's enough. Especially if you use lower packet rates like 50 Hz.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ok, thanks a bunch! What about flying indoors (wall penetration, flying on floors below ground level situations, etc.)? Forgot to mention that.
Looks like a perfect radio for whoops and microquads
Great review and very informative. I'm new to the hobby and was thinking of using this as my first transmitter. I had a question though, what receivers are compatible with this?
Awesome review, Joshua! Thanks!!! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I'm getting this because i want to be compact when I'm traveling. No more large radio.
Still haven't gotten my replacement for my Ranger Nano, and I was a pre-order from December 2022
But the T20 is just sooooo appealing... :/ The pocket with bigger gimbals would be soooo good
Now let’s see the much better looking and more appealing Jumper T20 review 😁
I feel this one is perfect for DLG/F3K radio. 😂. This explains why those layout are opposite as normal.
I’m getting this because of the price point and the 18650s over the ones my zorro currently takes, I have other powering options but it’s hard to beat the battery life these two larger batteries will provide in one package
Meanwhile, they offer stick extenders for just $3. I ordered them and they fit great. The pack contains two pairs, 4mm and 6.5mm length.
Well, thank you for such a comprehensive review, here's hoping the affiliate links still work on the EU version of the Radio master website.
Good as usual. Are you planning to review Jumper T20?
i bought this radio and I’m a beginner so this video is perfect for me, thank you ( mine comes in 4 days)
Pretty bumped that I bought the Zorro just days before Pockect was released. Now that I've had it for a few weeks, I'm starting to accept it 😂
Loving all these videos. Building my first quad, went for the radiomaster pocket and really love it. It has built in elrs. My Flywoo aio board has built in elrs rx. Well, can anyone please tell me how I can activate 12 channels? It appears to be limited to 8 channels. I have been through the menus etc and cannot find an option to change the number of channels. First person to answer correctly will receive my undying gratitude.
Not sure if your guess about the 3 types of people is correct. I have big hands, 20+ years in RC models and I normally take good care of my gear. But I'm still interested in the Pocket because I don´t like taking one of my TX16S on a hike. It is way smaller, and lighter. I just don´t know if I can fly with it... I'm used to have my transmitters in a tray and a tray would again add weight and size to it.... I might give it a try... 🙂
I learned to fly in my TX16S but I knew I would be flying better with something smaller thanks to my tiny raccoon like hands 😂, tried some smaller controllers but they always had some kind of drift, I’m going to give this a try.
So it sounds like for someone like me flying a couple old dsmx quads this radio as a 4n1 with am external elrs module for my new air65/75 Whoops! could be the way to go!
Hi Joshua , I have been waiting for your review for long time for this radio. Much appreciated.
The real question is, since these are on pre-order everywhere, is whether they have a problem or are reliable and if the break easily. No review I've seen answers that. I always wait for the first batch of ANYTHING to come out and find out what people are saying and what they are having problems with. Saves you big time from buying lemons (1st batches).
Sometimes, when a new product is released, some bugs are found. Waiting helps you avoid those.
Example is practically EVERY SINGLE BetaFPV product ever released! They are notorious for releasing new products defective or with problems. I only buy BetaFPV products with a V3 behind the name... Yes, V2 from them can still have issues! Many times that's been the case.😮😢
Just as an FYI to anyone else looking into these radios, they have announced the AG01 CNC gimbles for the Pocket now. Going to to cost about the same as the controller though, around $60.
clear case is so cool!
I just bought one to learn FPV via simulator.
Interesting looking little radio. Im considering buying a second to either replace or supplement my TX12. I am leaning towards the Boxer with 1W, but having a cheap radio that I can keep in my truck or as a backup is an interesting prospect.
You won't regret the Boxer going from a TX12.
You have the cheap radio... The TX 12. I can't figure out why people think they need multiple radios. Lol Cuz they just like spending money? A person can only fly with one, so why own more.
I've been flying FPV since 2015 and never found a need to buy another radio.
I wouldn't leave a radio in your truck or outside at all. Won't be good for it. And how hard is it to just grab your radio as you walk to your truck? Save you money, Bro, and put it towards a new drone or going digital. 😎👍
@@KOrnhOliO1 Personally, I like having backups for most things that are important to me, if I can afford to. I have a backup transmitter and backup goggles. Two is one and one is none as they say. To each his own.
@@kurtzFPV A lot of extra money spent... Especially if your #1 model is working good. I can see having an extra motor for a quad, but having an extra radio and extra goggles? That's a lotta money most guys don't want to spend. I can order another radio or goggles, if mine were to go out, from RDQ, etc and get them in 3-4 days.
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah, I guess it is just two different ways of looking at it. With all the money spent in this hobby, it is worth it to me. As an added bonus, my backup transmitter is small, for if I want to travel very light, and my backup goggles allow me to give ridealongs. The transmitter is not very expensive, and I got a good deal on the second set of goggles when I bought the DJI Potato setup used, but just refreshed, from a camera drone pilot who decided FPV wasn't his thing.
I have a radiomaster boxer.. I love it, 1w is awesome.
But i really want a smaller lighter radio so i can hike/travel with tiny quads and not need to lug around the tank that is the boxer.. Prob gonna buy the pocket and run both for a bit i used a LiteRadio 2 for a while and LOVED how small it was. Never really understood the large radios =x all about how you fly
Yea looking to replace t-lite .. never like the gimbals feel. But i like something using smaller radio. And internal elrs be nice now that all my drones except 1 is elrs. I barely fly my tinyhawk 2. I do have 3 elrs 915 drones
Nice video, What modules can I use with this radio to fly my “nano crossfire” drone?
TBS crossfire Nano module.
Thanks for the review! May I have the broken radio ?
I'm wanting to use this for a crawler with 4 wheel steer
NIce and compact, although my QX7 with Hall gimbals and an ELRS module has worked well for me over many years.
would you consider switching to this radio? i have your same setup
Good review. Do you think that maybe the Zorro or Boxer are better Radio than EdgeTx Pocket? I still have my TX16s which I love along with the Futaba 16IZ.
I'm sure you can fly more than 50hz with more than decent range on 250mW of power with elrs, particularly if you're a new pilot you want a smooth experience to feel the quad better, if the gimbals are meh and the latency is meh you're not going to get as smooth an experience as you could, while 1000hz is excessively enthusiastic with this amount of power I'm sure you'd be fine with 250hz
Maybe he's assuming an ep2 with a ceramic antenna? My transmitter hasn't had to go up to 250mw yet at 250hz but I have a dipole receiver.
@@Voyajer. It's all a tradeoff, sure you'll get less range but I think it's worth it: especially if you're just starting in the hobby you'd better get a good flight feel at "short" range than go fly far away,
the ceramic antenna isn't great but it's enough in most cases
Any chance you will start reviewing FrSky radios again? ETHOS along with the FrSky tandem receivers like the TD MX look like a really good option for 5" quads. You're the guy we go to for the nitty gritty details. If it's good we'd like to know. Same for if it isn't good. I honestly dont make many FPV purchases without first consulting a JB video. I just wish there was a JB video on the new FrSky radios/receivers.
I don't see much chance of that happening. I lost interest in FrSky some time back. It's not something I would use, and it's not something I would recommend others use. Think of it this way: what is the best control link you can get today? Crossfire? ExpressLRS? Whatever your answer, it's definitely not FrSky. And FrSky has repeatedly demosntrated they are willing to screw over their customers when it comes to supporting any 3rd party tech that could compete with Frsky. For the longest time, FrSky did not support ELRS at all. Now they sort of kind of support ELRS, but frankly I wouldn't advise anybody to buy a FrSky radio on the assumption that support will continue.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for the reply. It was worth a shot. You're my go-to for RC knowledge. It was my assumption that FrSky's RC protocols are vastly different now than they were before the community fell out of love with them. They have some charts on their website showing 4ms latency for Archer in race mode. I'm not sure of the distance or reliability of their link thiugh. It would be interesting to have measurable data on ACCESS, Archer, Tandem, etc but I completely understand having a sour taste based on how they abruptly changed their business model and left many long time devotees out in the wind. Thanks for you time. 🙏
@@JoshuaBardwell I wanted to add that I fly crossfire and I dont see myself changing anytime soon. My gear thats not crossfire is R9 gear flashed to ELRS. My two radios are a 2013 OG Taranis and a X-lite. What got me interested is that I am looking to finally upgrade my radio after over a decade and I like FrSky's offerings. I dont intend to use their protocols, was just interested in how things might have changed.
Thank you so much for your awesome review of this radio.
I'm just wondering though.
Do you know if you can buy a 4 in 1 module for it and if so which one would you buy?
Thanks.
If you pull the micro SD card out from the radio while it is on it won't immediately crash because the operating system and model data are all actually loaded into the ram of the radio's computer.
Thank you! Very informative and clicked your link.
than you for pointing that out!
Weird that “drone pilot” didn’t make the list of 3 people 😂
Not totally true that you can use any 18650. You have the with some small differences in length. I found out the hard way for the battery holder for my goggles. The ones from my Fenix flashlight for example where longer and did not fit. It not the difference in button top or flat top. Its really the cell hight.
I just bought this radio! Can you please make a video on how to bind it to a drone because it is not working for me?!?
ruclips.net/video/Dz7bdXWKC1Q/видео.html
Thx for the detailed video. I'm looking for a controller I can charge w/ USB c and use for flight sims when volunteering at schools. I see it has batteries but you mentioned they will run down on sim. Teachers also need, easy plug in and use in the classroom, where it recognizes that controller without special programming w/ DRL or Liftoff. Would you recommend zoro or pocketmaster or another manuf? Also ELRS or CC2500 for teachers in the sim?
I have the same question. I also volunteer at a school. Did you ever decide on a transmitter?
Those SD cards may feel cheap but they don't really need to be big or fast to work with edge-TX.
the issue is that they have high failure rate or at least have had in the past
Could I pair this as a slave TX to my FrSky X20S to trainer my kids?
Jumper T-lite vs radiomaster pocket which one better?
How good is the range, Joshua?
I mean, is it good enough for a park, with lots of trees and interference and such? Good enough for fixed wing flying at eye reach?
Had these drones for over a month. No bind. I got as far as it saying telemetry “connected” I think.. THEN NOT. IT happened fast. And early a.m.. Gave me hope until hours amd hours later.. Reddit rocks and they’re saying faulty radio.. I am a rookie, so what might I be doing incorrect? Elrs pocket to Mobil’s 8 edge tx and hummingbird drone..?
All the reviews and still have a question. Is there tension adjustment on the gimbals?
Damn, I want this cute little radio even I do not need a new radio :D
This radio would be perfect with some nicer gimbals. I love the tiny form factor as a thumber and have grown to hate the bulk when transporting my tx16 with the external module
Don't need better gimbals, these are fine since my days of flying Kraft radios. I bet you don't know how well these are compared to the 80's
Look at the TX12, I went with that instead of this one and it's much more comfortable for pinching.
There's nothing wrong with the gimbals. They are smooth, consistent and reliable and do not feel like cheap junk in your hand. Non-issue.
My fingers shake a lot when I am shooting videos for my project. Do you think this radio will suit me given that larger gimbals have more room for errors and jitters.. I currently fly with AG01 mini’s