Once again Radiomaster has proven itself to be the best innovator of radios on the market, they’ve hit it out of the park. If I didn’t already have the tx16s and the Zorro I would definitely consider this radio as a great alternative to the other 2 wonderful radios. Great review once again Joshua, well considered and very informative. Oh no, I just realised something, today I learnt something lol.
You mixed innnovation with inspiration. Boxer mimics Mambo. Same size and almost same form factor. 4 switches & 2 pots on top, non sticking out buttons on the back. Mid sized B&W LCD on the bottom. ELRS is western innovation too. "Western" based RC companies shut down R&D expenses. Everything to be cloned is cloned. We will see "true" innovation in two years. Maybe :)
The way I use the buttons on the top of my mambo is: Left button is opentx pre-arm. If left button isn't pushed down, arm switch doesn't send signal. Right button I use to toggle my super bright COB leds on/off for night flying. Like headlights.
Received my Boxer Max today! WHAT. A. FREAKING. DEAL! Fits waaaaaaay better in my hands (5'10" tall male, medium sized hands) than ANY other transmitter that I've had (Futaba, Graupner, etc.)! Again...WHAT A DEAL!!!
Got a Boxer Max in red here too. Such a great radio for the price. I love the size of it too. I wouldn't mind the colour touch screen of the TX16S but not if it means I need to lug around a bigger radio.
I've been pretty disciplined about impulse buying for a while on FPV stuff, but I didn't even know about this radio yesterday and now have pre-ordered it.
@@lokaero I have no idea. It has just shown up for years now. And it's not a real verification symbol. It must be left over from some long abandoned Google experiment.
The comfort of the traditional form factor in slightly reduced size that makes the Boxer appealing is exactly why I chose the Frsky X9 Lite Pro a couple years ago; it has the hall sensor gimbals, good quality switches & controls, and the screen, while not great, is good enough. But the size/shape/ergos are perfect for me, and all the rest I can modify to suit my needs. Currently I'm using the Happymodel ES24TX Slim ExpressLRS module (the one with the Iron Man' design), and it works like a champ! I've also got a 4-in-1 module that I was going to mount internally, with an additional mini toggle to switch between it and the ELRS module in the bay. But almost everything I run uses ELRS now, plus I've recently installed the Deviation OS into a Walkera Devo-10 which will let me fly all those obscure BNF models that the 4-in-1 is for, and it's a decent radio. I don't mind having a second one for those, since I only ever run those oddball little craft (and cars) at home, so only taking the X9 Lite with me when heading out to the field. Still, the Boxer is nice, and if I didn't already have my ideal radio, I'd definitely be looking hard at it! Great review, Bardwell, as always, I'm humbled by your knowledge, your channel is THE source for info!
I'm Tim Oliver & I bought one à month ago! I'm patiently awaiting shipment along with my HDZero goggles. 1st radio & goggles! Wife thinks I'm nuts order & wait. Love your vids will buy coffee soon!
Different USB ports for Sim and charging is a great thing. Lipo lifespan reduces drastical when charged to 100% for a long time. Playing on a sim would lead to that when it is the same port for charging. The boxer can charge the lipo to 90% and then play on the sim and simply turn off the TX afterwards without the need for storage charging it afterwards or seeing the max capacity shrink down the weeks afterwards.
I learned something today: Gimbel's was a department store that had a rivalry with Macy's, and started the oldest Thanksgiving day parade in America. Oh yeah, and I will own this radio.
1:41 hehe thats why we are here Bardwell, good video again! I own only Taranis qx7, and will be getting on the ELRS train with the boxer, ty radiomaster ;)
The TX16S is right for me, I like the colorful touch screen, I like the shape and size of it, and it's impressive look!😂 The Boxer is the first non-TX16S radio I've even considered switching to since I bought TX16S. I would probably benefit from the powerful ELRS module, and if it fits my hands as well as it fits JB's then that's compelling! But I'd have to get used to the boxy, slightly duller look of it, and the smaller screen. I hope they come out with premium versions of it with color options, like the TX16S! Time will tell, but right now if I upgrade I'll probably go for a TX16S with carbon fiber, and an ELRS internal module! As always, great Review JB, I'm pretty sure you answered all the questions I had about it!
Yeah pretty much the same I just ordered the tx16s jb and right after that the boxer came out and for a moment I was worried I made the Wrong decision and thought about sending it back but I have big hands and I’m a pincher and on top the purple accents and the color screen are just to cool to give up, so definitely gonna choose the tx16s
I think it would have been a win for me if they made a more "premium" version of it. keep the touch screen, improve the ergonomics of the tx16s. Or really if they just made the Tx16s shorter and kept everything else the same I'd be really happy. maybe get rid of the toggles on the top for push buttons like this and I would buy one immediately
I was on the fence about the Zorro because of the battery setup. I really like the form factor of this radio. This seems to be perfect for my quads. ELRS, here I come 😁
I just got a Boxer in the mail and I’m loving this thing. These stock gimbals are better then the Pyro gimbals imo. They’re just lacking that cnc feel but they’re so much smoother. Can’t wait to install AG01’s. Not sorry I picked this up.
The boxer is the radio that TBS refused to make. My mambo money is now boxer money. I'll be getting the 4in1 version and plugging crossfire into the bay. Happy days.
I got the Jumper T-lite as my first radio and I think I'll switch to this once I have the money to spare. Definitely feels like a decent compromise between an old-school and a gamepad-style radio while also delivering some welcome new features. 1000mW ELRS internally is just too good to be true.
Me too. I have the Jumper t-lite, mainly because it's shaped like a game controller which I'm familiar with and it was cheap. I had correctly gathered that flying an fpv drone is pretty difficult and I wanted to make sure I was actually capable of flying a drone before I spent £1000 on equipment. I've played with Velocidrone for about 25 hours and It seems that I am probably likely to be able to control a real drone so it's time to start thinking about what I'll buy for real drone use. The Boxer looks spot on.
Seems like a QX7 competitor/spiritual successor. I really like how the QX7 feels in hand so if they make an upgraded boxer with the TX16S screen I'd be all over it.
I always thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little smaller" with my QX7. Then I got the TX16S and thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little shorter."
I’m sticking with the tx12, everything is in reach and there are plenty of awesome upgrades that still are cheaper than the bigger radios. Ago1 minis, crossfire, and the grips make it everything I could need and more.
Just replaced my old trusty, crossfire modded Qx7. I had M7 and M7-R gimbals there, silicon skin, metal stand, custom stick ends, tracer module. Ordered the ELRS Boxer, instantly fell in love with it the moment I held it. That controller has so much going on for it. Yes! the form factor is so much more comfortable compared to ANY other radio I have held. The gimbals feel smooth, the switches feel clicky, The battery lasts such a long time. EdgeTX lets you customize the start/stop delay where you have to hold the button forever, which I hate on OpenTX. All in all, the Boxer makes me enjoy flying a lot more.
Still rocking my QX7. Battery mod incl. charging port. 400kbaud mod for ELRS. It does it all at a great size. But I've got to say if my QX7 failed I'd replace it with the Boxer.
I recently got a TX12 and I am really liking it. I've flown fixed wing for years with a full size Futaba. I started with FPV miniwhoops using a jumper t-lite. The tx12 is right in the middle like this one your reviewing. I have yet to fly it with a real quad as it's winter here and I don't have any elrs whoops. But I'm going to be using it with my bigger quads once it warms up. Judging by how I like it in sims, I think it's going to be my daily.
@@JThemelis I hear that! I have a Mambo, Tango 2, Nirvana and Dji "brick" v1 radio and a Taranis X9D still needing to go as well lol. It's crazy.. They all are missing like 1 or 2 things to bring them to the usefulness that this Boxer radio seems to be. I've been rocking the Tx12 v2 for a bit, really liking it.. But I really wanted a Mambo form factor, but one that would run on EdgeTX and have gimbals that could run the latest and greatest Elrs. I think a lot of people will probably be selling off their radios right about now too lol.
Honestly, Joshua... I think I'm in love with this radio! 😂 I still rock the X9D, but I've been looking for a replacement for a while... I was between the Zorro and the TX16S. But this one is perfect! Anyway, fantastic review as always!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I still not sure if it's even a upgrade to replace x9d. But then again I'm a helicopter and planes flyer. x9d is still a great radio. I think it would be a downgrade. Upgrade would be x9d to Radio Master tx16s. I own Taranis but love better tx16s due to color screen. It's also touch screen. Taranis still a great radio. Still have lot of switches, slider. And it is louder. That is a big boo for tx16s. Another thing I couldn't sync sound to boot screen. What I mean is I couldn't delay the boot screen. It boot's up fairly fast to the ui and with Taranis there was a delay feature that is adjustible. But this new radio looks great. I bet feels lot better then Tx16s. Tx16s I got use to it but it's huge. I have to reach farther then Taranis or Futaba 14sg. But this is good fairly good can do so much then many spektrum or most when it comes to programing and modification.
Another thing is wish they added slider. I hope for the future I hope Radio Master don't get rid of like the setup of Tx16s. Sliders, rotary nobs, shape because there is still lot of plane and helicopter flyer's.
@@rcrotorfreak Oh, no doubt about that. But I travel a lot and the smaller size seems great! I was seriously thinking about getting the Zorro, but the battery issue... You know? And I wouldn't burn the X9D or something... 😬 I would still have it if I ever needed. 😊
Let me give you a run down from a drone pilot... So i upgraded from using the x9d with m9s for 5 years (since 2017) to the tx16s Let me start by saying the gimbals are a whole heck of a lot better. I didn't expect this to be the case since I bought the m9s and the gimbals I use are the v1s of this gimbal, but they feel so much more smooth and the throw is more. The ergonomics made me love this radio. Even though its just a box, the way they put the sliders compared to the x9d (I hated the sliders on that thing cause my fingers would go on top of them and feel super awkward) was amazing. my fingers split to the sides so i dont feel it at all (I pinch/hybrid grip) The battery life is crzy using the 5000mah LIion from RM, and considering this has a 6200mah and is a b&w screen should be so much better. so basically I didnt expect it to be this good, but it is -Better gimbals -Better ergonomics I'm thinking of getting the boxer since I don't need the color screen (and frankly i never wanted it) but I use the top left shoulder switch for arming so I would have to get used to having it moved I also only have a mark I tx16s so having an internal elrs module would be very nice
NICE ONE JOSHUA!!!! As you were leading up to the radio looking like the Mamba . I Was saying out loud you mean like the mamba???? Then boom you did the radio switch and I was laughing out loud 😂 !!!! Nice one ☝️!!!!
Tx16s: best interface for programming and aircraft management. Jumper T-pro: best flight ergonmics for me. Seems like the menu navigation of the Boxer is similar to that of the T-pro. I have both and I generally use the TX16s for larger builds and T-pro for whoops. Great time to be an FPV pilot.
Can you do a quick side by side (size) comparison of the Boxer radio and the TX12? After more consideration. I think I like the boxer better than the TX12 only because of the potentiometers. I'm thinking the left shoulder switch @ 8:00 would make a good "Air Mode" switch. That strap on the back.????? For real?!
Charger and data over the same port is a function of circut design which is directly related to cost in other words if you could charge more and get the higher price it would be there...
That moment when you thought you had a radio picked out after weeks of research, then they release another🤦🏻♂️. Think I’m gonna go with the Tx16s Max anyways. Joshua Bardwell style baby. 🤘🏻
Most of your comments regarding ergonomics and switchology also apply to the TX12 MkII. What's the antenna you have on the Boxer? Is that an upgrade to the little stick types that come on many other radios, including the TX12. I'm asking because I wonder if I'll want to upgrade the one on my TX12.
I'll probably be getting this. I wish they had a "premium" version like the tx16s max with different faceplates, grips and ag01 gimbals. But it will come eventually because this product will be popular.
I bought a TX16S JB Edition and I literally love it (it is gorgeous)... but as my daily driver I tend to use a Jumper T-Lite ELRS, simply because I won't cry if I by any chance it gets lost, stolen or destroyed.
Is it possible to fit somehow a real switch instead that shoulder buttons? I use my old Jumper T12 Pro and I love that switches. I use the left one as my arm switch and the right as a turtle mode. This Boxer looks nice, but I can't use a radio without those switches.
left press switch could be for throttle cut, right momentary switch could be for panic button... im a brand new noob, havent bought a plane yet. i wanted to start with an end all transmitter then get planes.
As someone who’s played too much Velocidrone I’ve got hundreds of hours clocked, I quite like the fact I wasn’t charging the battery for all that time. Boxer looks amazing, struggling not to pull the trigger on one.
Radiomaster is defo the most innovative RC radio company out here, their radios are really great My dream radio is something that has the innovations of Radiomaster, and design of FrSky (I’m talking about the Horus line, especially X12S, I only want to buy that radio because of its design)
I really love my Zorro and I am very happy with it. However, if I should select one new radio this Boxer would be the best candidate. It looks amazing! Cheers guys
Fun fact: was looking for a smaller radio than the TX16S. Wanted the Zorro as a second driver for months. Saved up and bought the luminier edition. The moment I hit purchase, I went on RUclips and saw the Boxer was out. Damn it.
The option for 1W internal ExpressLRS power output makes this radio a game changer. No need to spend more money for a external module to increase power
Okay JB here is the question, for my first Radiomaster radio which should it be? I am not going to worry about the money (very unusual for me) as it will be my 70 birthday birthday present to myself. I have already decided that the TX16s Mk2 is doable but now you tell me it might not be the king of the Radiomaster hill? Please advise here.
Just got the Boxer Crush and am excited to fly the cnc AG01 gimbals for cinematic. Working on binding it now- Working to flash the radio with my bind phrase in ELRS Configurator-- it doesn't show Boxer in Radiomaster Devices, only TX16S 2400 and Zorro. Can I use the TX16S 2400 instead? Thanks in advance for your help!
@JoshuaBardwell I tried your affiliate link to purchase a Tx. It asks to choose between FCC and LBT region. It would be helpful to have your explanation and guidance on choosing a region. What I gathered from a Reddit discussion is that LBT is for EU, and FCC is for the USA. Also, due to implementation difference, LBT gets you at least 20% better performance over FCC BUT then Elrs goes only upto 100mw and not 1000w. I'll wait till I hear from you. Thank you
Can you pls make a video what drone flying control protocol (and what is the essence of digital vs analog- I understand it is about the camera and not the control of the drone) to go with and how to interpret spec data in that regard when buying a drone from flywoo and other online stores for noooobs. Thank you
I waiting for couple of mounths to upgrade my radio and finally Joshua you give me a great news ... it is small it is compact good battery all i need 🙂 thanks Joshua for the review 😉 Good to think ... if i buy elrs version ... i will save money i want to need external elrs and i have the 1 Watt bonus 😉 people will they buy the Ranger ELRS anymore? If they give a really good radio +1 watt internal
for what its worth - I fly quads and wings on a tango2 and a Mambo - I really like these radios but hate that TBS has not supported them with a useful operating system - as JBs mambo review was titled - model setup is "barely an inconvenience"🙄
I think the Boxer would make an excellent first radio, for me at least. Yes, I use your links, it's the least I could do. Never let it be said I don't do the least I could do.
Hi @Joshua!!! I was wondering if there is any accessory I could buy to hook up into my XBox Elite controller so I could send my controller input through radio signals itself. I would like to have a back up controller and re-use other 4 controller I already have, is there anything like that out there? I could not find anything.
Hello Joshu, Thank you for making my Fpv life easier. I have a question about charging. I have the 6200mAh battery in the boxer, can I charge it by Usbc . I have a Lipo charger too but can i use a Huwai 66w cellphone charger for charging the boxer?
I have grown interest into FPV drones and would like to start with simulator. If I would start with this radio, what else I would need to couple it with PC?
Ended up snagging one of these with the 4-in-1 internal to cover all my old receivers, and under the assumption that since ELRS is under active development, I'll probably want to be able to swap out to a newer external module as the standard progresses and becomes more capable on the hardware side, without having to re-buy the TX. The screen is less of a problem as most of my model setup will probably be done through the EdgeTX Companion software; the chances of needing to do anything more than minor edits in the field are pretty low. I do kind of wonder if anyone will come out with an OLED or IPS replacement mod, as the ghosting on the LCD is pretty unpleasant to look at, even if it's still totally usable. Hoping to set up a quick-view "widget" type screen with all my most important at-a-glance stuff, as the default stick and switch position display is kind of useless for day-to-day, only really helpful in case of checking on a control hardware failure. Great feel in larger hands! Really gives you something to solidly GRIP, while keeping everything within easy reach. The sharpness of the edges of the shoulder buttons on press-in is less great though; I'd have preferred the buttons to stand proud and drop to flush when depressed, rather than sinking into the body and presenting that sharp lip. It does make them harder to accidentally hit though, so tradeoffs there. Likewise hope that Radiomaster will break up the six-position switch into individual button capability like with the Jumper... I was under the assumption that EdgeTX would control that. Apparently not. :/
Curious as to your thoughts on the Spektrum NX series of transmitters, 'cause I was just given a RC plane (glider) and NX10 transmitter (an older man recently died and his wife gave me his RC stuff) and all in really nice condition.
@JoshuaBardwell Hey Josh, Im Donovan and I plugged in my radio master boxer Elrs to my computer and unplugged it not realizing it would mess it up and now there is nothing on the tools page on my radio. When I plug my card into my computer the scripts and tools are on it. I cannot figure out how to fix this. If you have any way of doing so would be greatly appreciated. When
While it may not be in the same class or size Transmitter the Commando8 900Mhz(900 is why I have it) will go up to 1Watt with built in cooling. That said I am considering changing as I want/need more channels
just a question before i'll purchance this controller. i saw that there are some options. i dont know what is the difrence between the FCC to the LBT in the region option. i would like someone to help me and explain it to me. thank you in advance
The switches on the Boxer, is it swappable for instance moving the two position ones to where the three positions are? I fly Heli’s and prefers the three positions switch to be on where the two positions switch are.
i just bought a tbs mambo ethix months ago and now im contemplating on selling or trading cause i dont even want to dive into the tracer life. been waiting for something like this
I stepped away from my drones for 5 or 6 years and I've got the bug to upgrade my tricopter this spring. Everything has changed. I need a new receiver, have a moded 9x with frsky djt module, there's no compatible receiver still in production. I think this may be the solution.
The best thing about the Boxer is the Gimbals. The worst thing is the rotary encoder. Use your thumb to select an option, then press and ocassionally you will select an adjacent option. Really not that nice.
Does anyone else see a slight resemblance of a radio that has been made already? Sometimes you have to do the mambo in the ring…. Tbs mambo look alike…..
I liked the size of my old X9 lite, but I've had no complaints with the size of my TX16S, with exception of traveling with it. It doesn't fit well in my backpack.
'I'm Joshua Bardwell, and you're gonna buy something today..'
But I don't have money
Already 😂
Well put!
Can confirm. Found the video and chose to buy this as my first controller after looking at a bunch of others 😂
@@UrLocalArticTherianBestieow is it? looking to buy it as my first nice one, tired of the betafpv
if nothing else the prices deserve some applause, well done radiomaster team,
Yea crazy
If you have an external module already its just $100 for the 2500 protocol
Once again Radiomaster has proven itself to be the best innovator of radios on the market, they’ve hit it out of the park. If I didn’t already have the tx16s and the Zorro I would definitely consider this radio as a great alternative to the other 2 wonderful radios. Great review once again Joshua, well considered and very informative. Oh no, I just realised something, today I learnt something lol.
You mixed innnovation with inspiration. Boxer mimics Mambo. Same size and almost same form factor. 4 switches & 2 pots on top, non sticking out buttons on the back. Mid sized B&W LCD on the bottom. ELRS is western innovation too. "Western" based RC companies shut down R&D expenses. Everything to be cloned is cloned. We will see "true" innovation in two years. Maybe :)
You could have 3 wonderful radios. Duh
Yes they innovated this radio
"Innovative" in that they pretty much copied the design of the TBS Mambo, as JB noted?
@@Vousie time if the month mate? 😂
The way I use the buttons on the top of my mambo is: Left button is opentx pre-arm. If left button isn't pushed down, arm switch doesn't send signal. Right button I use to toggle my super bright COB leds on/off for night flying. Like headlights.
The ONLY review I've wanted to watch on this radio .... excellent as always Joshua
Received my Boxer Max today! WHAT. A. FREAKING. DEAL! Fits waaaaaaay better in my hands (5'10" tall male, medium sized hands) than ANY other transmitter that I've had (Futaba, Graupner, etc.)! Again...WHAT A DEAL!!!
Got a Boxer Max in red here too. Such a great radio for the price. I love the size of it too. I wouldn't mind the colour touch screen of the TX16S but not if it means I need to lug around a bigger radio.
I've been pretty disciplined about impulse buying for a while on FPV stuff, but I didn't even know about this radio yesterday and now have pre-ordered it.
I don’t blame you for preordering it, it looks like a great radio.
Why are you having verified symbol?
@@lokaero I have no idea. It has just shown up for years now. And it's not a real verification symbol. It must be left over from some long abandoned Google experiment.
The comfort of the traditional form factor in slightly reduced size that makes the Boxer appealing is exactly why I chose the Frsky X9 Lite Pro a couple years ago; it has the hall sensor gimbals, good quality switches & controls, and the screen, while not great, is good enough. But the size/shape/ergos are perfect for me, and all the rest I can modify to suit my needs. Currently I'm using the Happymodel ES24TX Slim ExpressLRS module (the one with the Iron Man' design), and it works like a champ! I've also got a 4-in-1 module that I was going to mount internally, with an additional mini toggle to switch between it and the ELRS module in the bay. But almost everything I run uses ELRS now, plus I've recently installed the Deviation OS into a Walkera Devo-10 which will let me fly all those obscure BNF models that the 4-in-1 is for, and it's a decent radio. I don't mind having a second one for those, since I only ever run those oddball little craft (and cars) at home, so only taking the X9 Lite with me when heading out to the field. Still, the Boxer is nice, and if I didn't already have my ideal radio, I'd definitely be looking hard at it! Great review, Bardwell, as always, I'm humbled by your knowledge, your channel is THE source for info!
I'm Tim Oliver & I bought one à month ago! I'm patiently awaiting shipment along with my HDZero goggles. 1st radio & goggles! Wife thinks I'm nuts order & wait. Love your vids will buy coffee soon!
Where did you order your h d zero goggles from
Different USB ports for Sim and charging is a great thing.
Lipo lifespan reduces drastical when charged to 100% for a long time.
Playing on a sim would lead to that when it is the same port for charging.
The boxer can charge the lipo to 90% and then play on the sim and simply turn off the TX afterwards without the need for storage charging it afterwards or seeing the max capacity shrink down the weeks afterwards.
I learned something today: Gimbel's was a department store that had a rivalry with Macy's, and started the oldest Thanksgiving day parade in America. Oh yeah, and I will own this radio.
1:41 hehe thats why we are here Bardwell, good video again! I own only Taranis qx7, and will be getting on the ELRS train with the boxer, ty radiomaster ;)
The TX16S is right for me, I like the colorful touch screen, I like the shape and size of it, and it's impressive look!😂 The Boxer is the first non-TX16S radio I've even considered switching to since I bought TX16S. I would probably benefit from the powerful ELRS module, and if it fits my hands as well as it fits JB's then that's compelling! But I'd have to get used to the boxy, slightly duller look of it, and the smaller screen. I hope they come out with premium versions of it with color options, like the TX16S! Time will tell, but right now if I upgrade I'll probably go for a TX16S with carbon fiber, and an ELRS internal module! As always, great Review JB, I'm pretty sure you answered all the questions I had about it!
Yeah pretty much the same I just ordered the tx16s jb and right after that the boxer came out and for a moment I was worried I made the Wrong decision and thought about sending it back but I have big hands and I’m a pincher and on top the purple accents and the color screen are just to cool to give up, so definitely gonna choose the tx16s
I think it would have been a win for me if they made a more "premium" version of it. keep the touch screen, improve the ergonomics of the tx16s. Or really if they just made the Tx16s shorter and kept everything else the same I'd be really happy. maybe get rid of the toggles on the top for push buttons like this and I would buy one immediately
I was on the fence about the Zorro because of the battery setup. I really like the form factor of this radio. This seems to be perfect for my quads. ELRS, here I come 😁
Ya I end up charging my zorro after every other time out flying
I just got a Boxer in the mail and I’m loving this thing. These stock gimbals are better then the Pyro gimbals imo. They’re just lacking that cnc feel but they’re so much smoother. Can’t wait to install AG01’s. Not sorry I picked this up.
The boxer is the radio that TBS refused to make. My mambo money is now boxer money. I'll be getting the 4in1 version and plugging crossfire into the bay. Happy days.
I got the Jumper T-lite as my first radio and I think I'll switch to this once I have the money to spare. Definitely feels like a decent compromise between an old-school and a gamepad-style radio while also delivering some welcome new features. 1000mW ELRS internally is just too good to be true.
Me too. I have the Jumper t-lite, mainly because it's shaped like a game controller which I'm familiar with and it was cheap. I had correctly gathered that flying an fpv drone is pretty difficult and I wanted to make sure I was actually capable of flying a drone before I spent £1000 on equipment. I've played with Velocidrone for about 25 hours and It seems that I am probably likely to be able to control a real drone so it's time to start thinking about what I'll buy for real drone use. The Boxer looks spot on.
Seems like a QX7 competitor/spiritual successor. I really like how the QX7 feels in hand so if they make an upgraded boxer with the TX16S screen I'd be all over it.
I always thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little smaller" with my QX7. Then I got the TX16S and thought, "hm, this would be perfect if it was just a little shorter."
Jogfff
I’ve had the opportunity to hold a qx7 and it just felt like a hollow kids toy.
@@Dcscockpit it lasts longer that a tx16s which is garbo
So is it smaller than the qx7 or feels the same
Second I sway this radio I knew it was for me, perfect size for me and similar to my older radio. I think I'm going to buy one!
I’m sticking with the tx12, everything is in reach and there are plenty of awesome upgrades that still are cheaper than the bigger radios. Ago1 minis, crossfire, and the grips make it everything I could need and more.
could you tell me some of those awesome upgrades? i was thinking i wanted this...
where do they sell upgrades for the tx12?
Love mine too! Bought some grip tape, and works great.
Just replaced my old trusty, crossfire modded Qx7. I had M7 and M7-R gimbals there, silicon skin, metal stand, custom stick ends, tracer module.
Ordered the ELRS Boxer, instantly fell in love with it the moment I held it.
That controller has so much going on for it. Yes! the form factor is so much more comfortable compared to ANY other radio I have held.
The gimbals feel smooth, the switches feel clicky, The battery lasts such a long time.
EdgeTX lets you customize the start/stop delay where you have to hold the button forever, which I hate on OpenTX.
All in all, the Boxer makes me enjoy flying a lot more.
♥️ Radiomaster Boxer Max ❤
Just got mine today. Probably the BEST RC deal I've ever seen. LOVE IT!
As a Mambo user all I can say is that Trappy will love this radio. Lol
Funny. I just came across this review after ordering the Boxer yesterday. Confirmation that I made the right choice.
Still rocking my QX7. Battery mod incl. charging port. 400kbaud mod for ELRS. It does it all at a great size. But I've got to say if my QX7 failed I'd replace it with the Boxer.
today my QX7 broke and I bought the boxer :D
I recently got a TX12 and I am really liking it. I've flown fixed wing for years with a full size Futaba. I started with FPV miniwhoops using a jumper t-lite. The tx12 is right in the middle like this one your reviewing. I have yet to fly it with a real quad as it's winter here and I don't have any elrs whoops. But I'm going to be using it with my bigger quads once it warms up. Judging by how I like it in sims, I think it's going to be my daily.
I bought some grip tape for the TX12, and it is amazing now.
Bardwell side eying the Mambo saying “we’re just going to set this over in the corner” was funny😂😂😂
Seriously… said the same.. although, i was considering offloading my tx16s instead 🤷🏻♂️
@@JThemelis I hear that! I have a Mambo, Tango 2, Nirvana and Dji "brick" v1 radio and a Taranis X9D still needing to go as well lol. It's crazy.. They all are missing like 1 or 2 things to bring them to the usefulness that this Boxer radio seems to be. I've been rocking the Tx12 v2 for a bit, really liking it.. But I really wanted a Mambo form factor, but one that would run on EdgeTX and have gimbals that could run the latest and greatest Elrs. I think a lot of people will probably be selling off their radios right about now too lol.
Honestly, Joshua... I think I'm in love with this radio! 😂
I still rock the X9D, but I've been looking for a replacement for a while... I was between the Zorro and the TX16S. But this one is perfect!
Anyway, fantastic review as always!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I still not sure if it's even a upgrade to replace x9d. But then again I'm a helicopter and planes flyer. x9d is still a great radio. I think it would be a downgrade. Upgrade would be x9d to Radio Master tx16s. I own Taranis but love better tx16s due to color screen. It's also touch screen. Taranis still a great radio. Still have lot of switches, slider. And it is louder. That is a big boo for tx16s. Another thing I couldn't sync sound to boot screen. What I mean is I couldn't delay the boot screen. It boot's up fairly fast to the ui and with Taranis there was a delay feature that is adjustible. But this new radio looks great. I bet feels lot better then Tx16s. Tx16s I got use to it but it's huge. I have to reach farther then Taranis or Futaba 14sg. But this is good fairly good can do so much then many spektrum or most when it comes to programing and modification.
Another thing is wish they added slider. I hope for the future I hope Radio Master don't get rid of like the setup of Tx16s. Sliders, rotary nobs, shape because there is still lot of plane and helicopter flyer's.
@@rcrotorfreak Oh, no doubt about that. But I travel a lot and the smaller size seems great! I was seriously thinking about getting the Zorro, but the battery issue... You know?
And I wouldn't burn the X9D or something... 😬
I would still have it if I ever needed. 😊
Let me give you a run down from a drone pilot...
So i upgraded from using the x9d with m9s for 5 years (since 2017) to the tx16s
Let me start by saying the gimbals are a whole heck of a lot better. I didn't expect this to be the case since I bought the m9s and the gimbals I use are the v1s of this gimbal, but they feel so much more smooth and the throw is more.
The ergonomics made me love this radio. Even though its just a box, the way they put the sliders compared to the x9d (I hated the sliders on that thing cause my fingers would go on top of them and feel super awkward) was amazing. my fingers split to the sides so i dont feel it at all (I pinch/hybrid grip) The battery life is crzy using the 5000mah LIion from RM, and considering this has a 6200mah and is a b&w screen should be so much better.
so basically I didnt expect it to be this good, but it is
-Better gimbals
-Better ergonomics
I'm thinking of getting the boxer since I don't need the color screen (and frankly i never wanted it) but I use the top left shoulder switch for arming so I would have to get used to having it moved
I also only have a mark I tx16s so having an internal elrs module would be very nice
@@kylechang8610 Very good points. Thanks for sharing your experience! 🖖😊
NICE ONE JOSHUA!!!!
As you were leading up to the radio looking like the Mamba . I Was saying out loud you mean like the mamba???? Then boom you did the radio switch and I was laughing out loud 😂 !!!!
Nice one ☝️!!!!
Tx16s: best interface for programming and aircraft management. Jumper T-pro: best flight ergonmics for me. Seems like the menu navigation of the Boxer is similar to that of the T-pro. I have both and I generally use the TX16s for larger builds and T-pro for whoops. Great time to be an FPV pilot.
Thanks for the great review Joshua!🚀
What about tx12?
Can you do a quick side by side (size) comparison of the Boxer radio and the TX12? After more consideration. I think I like the boxer better than the TX12 only because of the potentiometers. I'm thinking the left shoulder switch @ 8:00 would make a good "Air Mode" switch. That strap on the back.????? For real?!
Charger and data over the same port is a function of circut design which is directly related to cost in other words if you could charge more and get the higher price it would be there...
That moment when you thought you had a radio picked out after weeks of research, then they release another🤦🏻♂️. Think I’m gonna go with the Tx16s Max anyways. Joshua Bardwell style baby. 🤘🏻
I was literally thinking ..i you mean like the tbs mambo, then you put ot down 🤣🤣🤣
I’m gonna own this radio, no hesitation!
Most of your comments regarding ergonomics and switchology also apply to the TX12 MkII. What's the antenna you have on the Boxer? Is that an upgrade to the little stick types that come on many other radios, including the TX12. I'm asking because I wonder if I'll want to upgrade the one on my TX12.
I'll probably be getting this. I wish they had a "premium" version like the tx16s max with different faceplates, grips and ag01 gimbals. But it will come eventually because this product will be popular.
Awesome review 🙂 That Boxer should have had a color screen 🙂
Having a jumper t12 pro for several years now, this radio is very appealing to me. Probably my next upgrade.
I bought a TX16S JB Edition and I literally love it (it is gorgeous)... but as my daily driver I tend to use a Jumper T-Lite ELRS, simply because I won't cry if I by any chance it gets lost, stolen or destroyed.
1:37 @JB, tell me Radiomaster ripped off TBS without saying “Radiomaster ripped off TBS” 🤣🤣🤣
Sold. My Zorro with the 1w module and 5000mah battery strapped onto it just doesn't feel the greatest. This has that all built in.
Is it possible to fit somehow a real switch instead that shoulder buttons? I use my old Jumper T12 Pro and I love that switches. I use the left one as my arm switch and the right as a turtle mode. This Boxer looks nice, but I can't use a radio without those switches.
I need this thing. I was about to order the Ranger for my Mambo when I saw this. That radio ist just what I need!
left press switch could be for throttle cut, right momentary switch could be for panic button...
im a brand new noob, havent bought a plane yet. i wanted to start with an end all transmitter then get planes.
God bless your lovely hands Josh, I look forward to wrapping my wonderful hands on a boxer, just ordered one.
That screen looks just like the one on my Teranis Qx7, which has worked fine for me for the past few years. This looks like something I might buy.
Are the hall effect gimbals of the Taranis better then Radiomaster standart?
Personally I think the radiomaster are better.
As someone who’s played too much Velocidrone I’ve got hundreds of hours clocked, I quite like the fact I wasn’t charging the battery for all that time.
Boxer looks amazing, struggling not to pull the trigger on one.
Watching now, hope you compared it side by side with the mambo....cant wait to see
Radiomaster is defo the most innovative RC radio company out here, their radios are really great
My dream radio is something that has the innovations of Radiomaster, and design of FrSky (I’m talking about the Horus line, especially X12S, I only want to buy that radio because of its design)
I really love my Zorro and I am very happy with it. However, if I should select one new radio this Boxer would be the best candidate. It looks amazing!
Cheers guys
I mean.. if the only thing worth paying double the price is the touch screen.. thx, just ordered a boxer!
If the top corners were angled a bit those top push buttons would be in better position. Wait, that's a QX7.
Man I got my zorro a few months ago. I’m eventually gonna have to add this to my collection to use. Tx16s max and zorro so fsr
🤣🤣 the scene with the mambo. Been wanting one for so long but then this radio came out. Instant win for me. 1W ELRS internal
Fun fact: was looking for a smaller radio than the TX16S. Wanted the Zorro as a second driver for months. Saved up and bought the luminier edition. The moment I hit purchase, I went on RUclips and saw the Boxer was out. Damn it.
Daaamn 😂
The option for 1W internal ExpressLRS power output makes this radio a game changer. No need to spend more money for a external module to increase power
Thanks
Okay JB here is the question, for my first Radiomaster radio which should it be? I am not going to worry about the money (very unusual for me) as it will be my 70 birthday birthday present to myself. I have already decided that the TX16s Mk2 is doable but now you tell me it might not be the king of the Radiomaster hill? Please advise here.
14:01 you going learning something today
Just got the Boxer Crush and am excited to fly the cnc AG01 gimbals for cinematic. Working on binding it now-
Working to flash the radio with my bind phrase in ELRS Configurator-- it doesn't show Boxer in Radiomaster Devices, only TX16S 2400 and Zorro. Can I use the TX16S 2400 instead?
Thanks in advance for your help!
@JoshuaBardwell I tried your affiliate link to purchase a Tx. It asks to choose between FCC and LBT region. It would be helpful to have your explanation and guidance on choosing a region.
What I gathered from a Reddit discussion is that LBT is for EU, and FCC is for the USA. Also, due to implementation difference, LBT gets you at least 20% better performance over FCC BUT then Elrs goes only upto 100mw and not 1000w.
I'll wait till I hear from you. Thank you
I still have two T12 Pros for exactly the same reasons! I love the compact fit! I have a T18 Pro that is a great radio, but it is a big sucker!
Wish radiomaster would release a swappable internal ELRS module so I can replace it with the 4in1 in my older TX16s
They just did! But I can't find where it's for sale...
@@JoshuaBardwell 😯😯😁 I’ll definitely keep my eyes open for it then 👍🏽👍🏽
@@JoshuaBardwell Pyrodrone has the internal ELRS module! It says compatible with Mark2. Any idea if you can still put it in pre mark 2 TX16S?
Well there is a v2 of the boxer now other than the clear case. Soon there will be a bardwell boxer edition.
The 2 usb miss-design hold me back
That left index finger toggle button looks perfect for controlling turtle mode.
Can you pls make a video what drone flying control protocol (and what is the essence of digital vs analog- I understand it is about the camera and not the control of the drone) to go with and how to interpret spec data in that regard when buying a drone from flywoo and other online stores for noooobs. Thank you
Looks great like the the smaller form factor but... I'll be staying with my tx16s it's just got more going on.
You know the radio protocolo of the Arrows Pioneer?... Thanks.
If it just had the screen at the top it would be like a modern version of the JR XP8103.
What a great review thank u. This radio looks really cool.
I have your version of the tx16s and I think it will be perfect for quite some time 😎
I waiting for couple of mounths to upgrade my radio and finally Joshua you give me a great news ... it is small it is compact good battery all i need 🙂 thanks Joshua for the review 😉 Good to think ... if i buy elrs version ... i will save money i want to need external elrs and i have the 1 Watt bonus 😉 people will they buy the Ranger ELRS anymore? If they give a really good radio +1 watt internal
its just like a mambo - but better - with opentx support FTW! (come on TBS what gives on the freedomtx to opentx?)
for what its worth - I fly quads and wings on a tango2 and a Mambo - I really like these radios but hate that TBS has not supported them with a useful operating system - as JBs mambo review was titled - model setup is "barely an inconvenience"🙄
I think the Boxer would make an excellent first radio, for me at least. Yes, I use your links, it's the least I could do. Never let it be said I don't do the least I could do.
I already have the Zorro. Like this one. May be my next one!
Hi @Joshua!!! I was wondering if there is any accessory I could buy to hook up into my XBox Elite controller so I could send my controller input through radio signals itself. I would like to have a back up controller and re-use other 4 controller I already have, is there anything like that out there? I could not find anything.
As a thumber,, I'm in love with my x-lite.
I'd just bought a T-lite to learn about Express LRS and EdgeTX. Now I know what's my next radio will be.
Hello Joshu,
Thank you for making my Fpv life easier. I have a question about charging. I have the 6200mAh battery in the boxer, can I charge it by Usbc . I have a Lipo charger too but can i use a Huwai 66w cellphone charger for charging the boxer?
I have grown interest into FPV drones and would like to start with simulator. If I would start with this radio, what else I would need to couple it with PC?
Ended up snagging one of these with the 4-in-1 internal to cover all my old receivers, and under the assumption that since ELRS is under active development, I'll probably want to be able to swap out to a newer external module as the standard progresses and becomes more capable on the hardware side, without having to re-buy the TX.
The screen is less of a problem as most of my model setup will probably be done through the EdgeTX Companion software; the chances of needing to do anything more than minor edits in the field are pretty low. I do kind of wonder if anyone will come out with an OLED or IPS replacement mod, as the ghosting on the LCD is pretty unpleasant to look at, even if it's still totally usable. Hoping to set up a quick-view "widget" type screen with all my most important at-a-glance stuff, as the default stick and switch position display is kind of useless for day-to-day, only really helpful in case of checking on a control hardware failure.
Great feel in larger hands! Really gives you something to solidly GRIP, while keeping everything within easy reach. The sharpness of the edges of the shoulder buttons on press-in is less great though; I'd have preferred the buttons to stand proud and drop to flush when depressed, rather than sinking into the body and presenting that sharp lip. It does make them harder to accidentally hit though, so tradeoffs there.
Likewise hope that Radiomaster will break up the six-position switch into individual button capability like with the Jumper... I was under the assumption that EdgeTX would control that. Apparently not. :/
Curious as to your thoughts on the Spektrum NX series of transmitters, 'cause I was just given a RC plane (glider) and NX10 transmitter (an older man recently died and his wife gave me his RC stuff) and all in really nice condition.
@JoshuaBardwell Hey Josh, Im Donovan and I plugged in my radio master boxer Elrs to my computer and unplugged it not realizing it would mess it up and now there is nothing on the tools page on my radio. When I plug my card into my computer the scripts and tools are on it. I cannot figure out how to fix this. If you have any way of doing so would be greatly appreciated. When
We just gonna pretend the tx12 mkii doesn't exist?
While it may not be in the same class or size Transmitter the Commando8 900Mhz(900 is why I have it) will go up to 1Watt with built in cooling. That said I am considering changing as I want/need more channels
just a question before i'll purchance this controller. i saw that there are some options. i dont know what is the difrence between the FCC to the LBT in the region option. i would like someone to help me and explain it to me. thank you in advance
My learning curve is tree branching out
9:48 funny thing is that my TX12's USB port is both data and power, I didn't know that was an exception for radiomaster controllers lol
The switches on the Boxer, is it swappable for instance moving the two position ones to where the three positions are? I fly Heli’s and prefers the three positions switch to be on where the two positions switch are.
i just bought a tbs mambo ethix months ago and now im contemplating on selling or trading cause i dont even want to dive into the tracer life. been waiting for something like this
I stepped away from my drones for 5 or 6 years and I've got the bug to upgrade my tricopter this spring. Everything has changed. I need a new receiver, have a moded 9x with frsky djt module, there's no compatible receiver still in production. I think this may be the solution.
I was a game style radio fan until I held a boxer....now I'm buying a boxer after checking out my buddies haha
The best thing about the Boxer is the Gimbals. The worst thing is the rotary encoder. Use your thumb to select an option, then press and ocassionally you will select an adjacent option. Really not that nice.
Does anyone else see a slight resemblance of a radio that has been made already? Sometimes you have to do the mambo in the ring…. Tbs mambo look alike…..
Take Mambo, remove fashion, add function. BOXER.
@@dr0n3droid I mean form function is almost identical….. with some better parts. This is true. But I fly crossfire and tracer and elrs 😂
I liked the size of my old X9 lite, but I've had no complaints with the size of my TX16S, with exception of traveling with it. It doesn't fit well in my backpack.