Thanks for your video . You've sold me on these things. I've been waiting to hear someone with a literbike give a real world review after quite a bit of miles and you provided just that. They'll be going on my Gixxer 1K. Subscribed. Cheers!
Thank you for the review Monaco GP. I ride Suzuki GSX-s1000f and your review was exactly what I was looking for, especially the part of going from a 50 to a 55 because I was also considering that too. Thanks again.
thanks for posting these! it was nice to see a real world tally of what kind of mileage is possible on these. I was 50/50 w/the rossos, so this helped me decide!
The Angel GT dual compound region is narrow confined to a 2.5" band on the rear and 1.25" in the front. This compares to other GT tires like the Pilot Road 4 which 1/2 the tire is the harder compound. What does this mean? Pirelli have come up with a formula that you only really need the harder compound right in the center therefore when you lean even a little you're already into a softer compound. Can't argue with the tread life numbers on the Angel GT so I guess Pirelli are right. Just keep those air pressures up. I run 37psi front 42psi rear. The Rosso are more of a track tire and if you're primarily a street rider is simply overkill for grip when/if you get them to the proper temperature range and more expensive because they don't last nearly as long. Keep us posted on your experience with these tires! Don't forget to like and subscribe if you haven't already done so. :-)
yeah, my bike's OE was the rosso 2, but then I started to commute more instead of just hooligan time xD so that was why I started to debate switching to the angels
I seriously doubt you'll see much difference. Frankly my bike performs better on the GT than it did on Q3 which I never got more than 3500 or so miles on. The extra mileage is a welcomed bonus.
Appreciate the good review. These tires are ridiculously expensive. Which is probably why someone doesn't come out with a 20,000 mile or higher increased technology tire. If the income ain't broke, don't fix it!
I'm buying my first set of tires for my 2009 Triumph Daytona 675. Was very close to ordering the Pirelli Rosso III's but switched over the the Angel GT's. Good to hear all your positive feedback!
Rosso III's and Corsa's are excellent tires. Simply way overkill on compound for most riders. thank you for the comment and glad to hear everyone's feedback helped you make an excellent choice. Keep us posted.
Based on our review, I purchased a set for my L6 GSXR750 and have to agree that they are so much better then the OEM Bridgestone Battleaxe 16 ( got 8000km out of them). Grip is confidence inspiring and look hardly worn after 4500km. I would certainly buy another set.
I have never heard anyone say anything bad about these tires. So many people throwing money away on track centric tires when they don't come anywhere near realizing the performance limits. This tire easily is 95% of the most popular track centric street tires performance wise, does better in the rain and lasts 2.5 times longer.
Hey bro, i know its a long time ago but i need to ask. I have a gen1 hayabusa and im curious how many kilometres u got on rear till the end? Pirelli 190/50ZR17 Angel GT (A) --> im considering buying these. I'm not a rich guy so i need longevity.
Interesting how you said that these tyres stayed a good tyre from start to finish and didn't degrade or fall off badly as they got worn. I find that's true of all pirellis I've ever used, unlike my other favourite tyre bridgestone which I find they really let you know when the tyre is getting done. It can be a catch 22 as the last big tour I did my pirelli burned through to the cords about 100 miles from home on the way back fortunately. But since it had no tread pattern on the middle anyway and it was still super grippy I couldn't tell just how worn it was.
If you’re a commuter and do lot of long distance rides then this is the tire for you. But set your PSI a little lower from the Recommended pressure so you get more contact patch from the tire. ( if you are a light weight rider) .They do take a little long to warm up but they are great tires. I had kine for 2 seasons now and they look brand new still. I had the rosso 2s even tho they stuck to the road like gum they barely last 1 season.
Just ordered a set of these for my CB500x. I wonder how long they'll last on the little CB when people are getting 10k out of them on massive 100+hp sport tourers.
I got 10,000 km out of the front only because the camber of the road wore out one side quicker then the other side of the tyre. The rear still has a few more thousand km to go. My only grip is that on the GSXR 750 with firmer suspension, I had to run 34F and 36R and the harder carcass gives some jittering feedback through the rear on bumby roads but it is a sports bike so understandable. The grip has been very good and consistent. Pirelli have now come out with a GT2 which is suppose to be a better tyre. Have you tried the road 5'S?
Great vids Monaco GP, i wish i had seen your reviews before i had bought my Angel STs, as these won't match the GTs but i hope they will still be a reasonably good tyres nonetheless, but i know what my next purchase of tyres will be, thanks for the great info.👌👌
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips just out of interest as your vid is 12 months old how did you do on your new pair of Pirelli GTs? Did they match or exceed your last pair? Thanks. 😀
Awesome review. Planning on getting these on my 07 R1 and 02 FZS1000 - if i can comfortably get 8.5k on them like your previous video, I'll be happy. Running BT023 on the Fazer and S20 Evo on the R1. UK weather means shit riding conditions, so I'm keen on how they do in the wet
I picked up some Pirelli Angels GT II's. Put them on my Hayabusa. I did get over 7k on my OEM tires. The dealership was surprised. So I'm hoping I will get more out of the Angels GT II. I was wondering if I should have put on the Angels ST. I guess I'll see next round... & nice video.
What air pressure do you run I have a 2013 tuono and I've been running q3+ but I've always ran Angel's on my other bikes so I'm about to switch to them on the tuono since I ride it more than my others
@@mariohudincec1537 I still am looking for these in 190! Gold these tyres were! only one left in stock in India though. But My michlien pilot power 3 is new.
After watching this video I think I'm going to get these for my 2013 Gixxer 600. Stock bridgestones are just about shot at 4k miles lol I'm not replacing tires twice a year.
Great review, Hi , which tires are best puncher resistance? Which is better for crappy roads and bit of slush and rain infested broken roads?, so how is angle GT given my requirements. I am looking forward to your answer and appreciate as it very important to me. I have a 400cc street nacked bike.
I've had no puncture issues on this tire for now 15,000 miles (1/2 way through my second set). The biggest market share holder Dunlop Q3+ which some of my riding mates run on cannot say the same. So the direct answer is the Angel GT seems to avoid punctures better than others however as you know motorcycle tires are very thin. Rain performance is great but probably not as good as a dedicated rain tire but then again you wouldn't want to run a rain dedicated tire on a daily basis. I have no issues at very high speeds even in significant downpours. I was caught out once with a pillion rider and we did well over the speed limit in a punishing rain for quite a long distance. Slush would be a different story as would gravel on broken roads. For that your going to require some kind of block tread which is no longer a road tire and you'll have the issues concerning fender clearance with those as well. You may need to look at something like Nikki Misurelli runs on her sport bike that she does touring on. ruclips.net/user/nikkimisurelli I hope that helps. Please like and subscribe :-)
Nice review man. I just picked up an 06 Kawasaki zx14 and am looking to get a new set of shoes for it. the current tires are fairly flat in the middle. Been told I can go up to a 200 in the rear. These tires seem like they would be good for the type of riding I do. Think these would work well on my zx14? Thanks for any input!
Thank you also. I am looking for a set of tires for my 18' zx14r that will hold up for the price. I think I just found them. I put about 400 miles on it a week to and from work. The original tires that come on the bike a gone with 5200 miles on them. There only 4 months old. I need a good tire for a heavy bike.
How is that mileage possible? My tires are almost worn out after 4500 miles (7000 km), both front and rear. Don´t get me wrong, I love the Angel GT and will be fitting the same ones again, but my tirewear is nowhere near the mileage you get. I drive pretty inspired and have been on a couple of trackdays but also done a longer trip (just under 2000 miles, 3000 km) to Germany from Sweden. But they are toast now, maybe I can get another 700 miles out of them but that will be stretching it a bit to far i think. What is possitive is that i don´t feel a big change in grip, although they are petty worn out. Maybe in wet weather, but i try to avoid that kind of weather anyhow. And they are still round and nice, no flatspots but an even wear all arond the tire. The Angel GT is a really good sportstouring tire, good for trackdays and good for vacation runs. Maybe Pilot road 5 is as good as Angel GT, i don´t know, haven´t trid them. And i won´t know during the first part of this season at least because i am not going to change brand for now.
Tire pressure. If you want the longer miles you need to run higher pressure. I run 35/6 psi front and 42psi rear. Also a track day is a whole other story. I haven't run any track days on motorcycles, however my track experience in cars is extensive all the way to pro racing GT cars. That said, I could cook a set of tires and brakes in 1.5hrs. Completely gone. Any time you talk track all bets are off.
Thanks Monaco GP. I have around the same tire pressure on road, but drops it a bit for the trackdays. And i never commute, or go by motorways if i can avoid it.I guess that can be a part of the equation, but im still impressed of the mileage you got out of them.
Great input. I have to find a 160/60R 18inch for a Fat Boy front tire and have been looking around and came across these. Seems like this is the tire I need for front end. They seem to do so well. 10K miles on a sportbike seems like a damn good tire to invest into. Shame they don't seem to make a 240/40 18inch. Would love a full set with this kind of durability. How much weight do you think you were pulling total 2 up and cruising?
In gear I weigh about 200# and the backpack was around 135#. The bike weighs around 400#. You want to watch mixing tires if you ride in the wet. Many times how the front tire handles water is integral to how the back tire performs. Not sure on sizing for your bike but these Angel GT's do come in an "A" spec version with stiffer sidewalls for heavier bikes.
Alright. Doesn't seem too far off from the expected weight rating for the tires. This seems like the best tire for the front end I can find. Thanks for the review.
My problem is getting them in the right size. I need 18inch 160/60 tire for the front. I'm not sure there's an A Spec version of the 160/60ZR 18inch. I think because these tires are sport touring spec, and this is a rear tire there wouldn't be any issues with it on a front end of a middleweight cruiser. Touring bikes are expected to be heavy. I can always call harley about tires and see what fits and is strong enough.
Front tread pattern is different than the rear on the Angel GT. As I said earlier the front's are designed to channel water in conjunction with the rear. So, not sure how I'd feel about putting a tire designed for the rear on the front. I looked around and your options are pretty limited. Metzeler?
Damn, i have never been able to get that many miles out of a set of angel gt, I noticed a spec gets a lil less but the best mileage i have managed was about 6000 or just under when i was past wear bar to the belts. Absolutely love how well these tires grip on corners and the wet traction is awesome. And like you, i only use the 190/55 vs the 50. Great review just dont get how you get so many miles. Also i noticed the fronts cup a tiny bit but it is cause they are not the dual compound
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips i would prefer to not ride in anything over 80 tbh but where i live that would mean half the year. I always wear full gear and recently upgraded my jacket to the alpinestars techair race system(flashed for street of course) but that jacket is seriously too hot to wear any day even close to 80 degrees. 17 lbs and feels like wearing a plastic trash bag when it comes to air flow. But yeah cooler means longer tire life for sure. Thanks for the review
Hi there. I hope you're still responding to comments. I've been doing my research with these tires but I'm sort of on the fence. (BTW, did you make a review on Revzilla? Lol I think I remember seeing that same 10,378 mileage on there as well) Anywho, I'm worried about these tires because when I search for them, I see people do comparisons between the Angel GT tires & Pilot Road 4s. I HATE the PR4s. They were sliding all around on me. I'm not a track rider nor do I push myself on the streets. So I want to know how aggressive do you ride for you to like the Angel GT tires so much? Every now & then I like to "get it" on the highway on ramps but that's about it. I don't want to second guess myself while cornering. What do you think?
I did post this review to Revzilla. LOL Now to answer your question; The Pilot road 4's are also dual compound but the harder rubber constitutes over half of the make up of the tire while on the Angel GT it's more of a riding ridge 2.75" wide on the centerline of the tire. What this means is the Pirelli gets into softer compound almost immediately when you lean off center. Also the Angel GT doesn't have nearly as many squirm creating sipes as the Pilot 4 a design element Michelin has largely copied on the Pilot 5. The only times I feel any squirm in the tire is over those tar strips they use to seal cracks. Hope that helps. Subscribe and like. Thank You!
Monaco GP exactly. I'll take that as a "no, they were the regular Angel GT. " I was just making sure A specs weren't the reason you got so many miles out of them. I'll be ordering a set of these. Thanks for the reviews. Very helpful and to the point. 👍🏼 well done
Sorry I could have made my answer more clear. You are correct I was not / am not running the A-Spec. There is also a D-Spec supposedly designed specifically for the heavier Ducati like the Monster. I run the regular Angel GT's. A lot of people confuse them with the ST. The ST is not nearly as good as the GT.
That’s cool. A few weeks ago I was reading up on a bunch of reviews and these tires where highly liked and recommended. And then today I saw your video so. Whenever I require a set of new tires I guess I already know what I’ll be getting. Cool videos. I’ll be subscribing. Take it EEzzEE
Thank you raztechstudios. They really are an excellent tire for anything but all out track days. The harder dual compound strip is narrower in the center than other manufacturers. This means you get into softer rubber in leans more quickly. People cooking through full on track orientated tires like Q3's and Pirelli Diablo's for street riding are wasting $. I've put a lot of people onto these tires and all are happy they made the choice.
Monaco GP those have a dual compound rubber on the rear tire only and not the front so you think it worth getting tires with dual compound front and rear. Or are those good enough. Just curious.
They are dual compound in the front also. You can see the different compounds once they scrub in a little. These Angel GT's have very narrow dual compound strips compared to other manufacturers. That is what makes them adhere better than the others. As soon as you lean you're on the softer compound. Other manufacturers can have the harder compound covering half or more of the total surface. To answer your question; The front wore in line with the rear having perhaps 10-15% left when the rea wore out. Thank you for the question / comment.
The GT2 isn't going to give appreciably greater kms. What bike are you on, how much do you weigh and what pressures do you run? The reason I ask is that there is an A Spec version of this tire if you're on a heavy bike. This will prevent sidewall flattening in heavier weight applications. Also it's imperative that you run 34-36 front and 42 rear with these or you won't get the distance because the tire, like any other run at too low a pressure, will flatten out and you won't be riding on the high mileage strip in the center of the tire anymore. If you only get 3600km out of these I'd hate to see your tire bill if running something else and only getting 1K.
@@stefan-ge Heavy bike with a lot of torque. Pirelli actually make a "D" Spec version of the Angel GT. The "D" is Ducati and it was designed for the Multistrada. The difference is in the sidewalls. That tire may or may not be in production anymore. You'll have to check. If it's not then get the A Spec. The regular tire is going to flex way to much for that heavy bike that has so much of it's weight on the rear tire.
I haven't run the GT2's. I contacted Pirelli for a pair based on the 90,000 views I have across 3 videos for the GT's and the cheap bastards declined. The difference is reported to be water channeling to maximize ABS but your guess is as good as mine. As far as wobble is concerned, I doubt seriously the issue is with a tire manufactured by Pirelli. My experience with any other Pirelli I've run is that if you take care to line the red dot on the sidewall up with the valve stem you need very few, sometimes no weights to balance. I suspect people don't know about that dot. Sorry I can't give you definitive, first person knowledge on the GT2. Thank you for watching.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips I live in Michigan and we have mostly straight roads and virtually no curves, its depressing. I got stock Dunlop Sportmax D214's on my Z900 which are shit, and they are squaring off at 2900 miles on the rear tire. So I want a good sport touring that doesn't wear that fast in the middle.
@@midnightt6991 Right. Most of the US doesn't have twisty roads all over the place. That's why I've been running these. It take me 3hrs to get anywhere with any turns at all hence most of my riding is in the center.
Haha, they will bearly last half as long where I ride (Black Forest and Switzerland). From the looks of that tyre profile, you dont get to ride twisties much at all
It takes a couple hour ride just to get to anything significantly twisty in my area. This is true of most riders and for them this is the perfect tire.
The front was close. With other brands I could usually give the front to away to someone on a budget as it would have 40% left. Not so with the Angel GT. The front was very close to the wear bar maybe 10% left at maximum. Sorry I didn't cover this in the video.
Yes. The 55 gives a more convex surface that makes the bike handle better and there is a slight raise of the rear to shift weight forward a little. I had a 98 R1 and always ran a 55.
Have you tried the Rosso 3 or the Bridgestone S21? I'm considering these along with the angel gt for the rsv4, and want to know if the profile of the angel gt is flatter than the rosso 3 and the s21? I've tried the angel gt on the z1000, and I liked it a lot.
Are these "A" spec or regular? I was on cycle gear's website and it was like $10 more for the "A" spec which allows for heavier loads to be taken which shouldn't be necessary for your CBR or my GSXR but I wanted to be sure as to which one you bought so I can try to get the same mileage. Thanks!
There are full discussions about the A-Spec in the comments section. My review is of the standard version. A-Specs are for heavier bikes like Busas, ZX 14's etc.
I just purchased a yamaha FZ1 and the stock rear tire is a 190/50/17. I called yamaha they said dont change the rear tire size but everyone who rides says go to the 55 tire. How much of a difference if any did it play in gas mileage and the final drive of the bike from the acceleration and weight?
For me the speedo read a couple miles high with the 90. With the 95 the speedo is 100% l, GPS verified accurate. There is very little difference either way.
I don't. According to Pirelli they're optimized for bikes with ABS. I contacted them to see about getting a set considering my three reviews of the GT's are all in the top 10 videos on RUclips but they declined. I'm due for a new set in the spring. Not sure which direction I'll go. Thank you for watching.
Not the Rosso 2 but the Rosso 3. Interestingly the lateral grip isn't much better on the Rosso 3. The high wear strip on the GT is quite narrow compared to others so you get into softer rubber quite quickly when leaning. The Rosso 3 is good for just over 1/2 the miles of the GT and the GT is much better in water. The Rosso 3 is considerably lighter so the bike accelerates a bit better with the Rosso 3.
The front was close. With other brands I could usually give the front away to someone on a budget as it would have 40% left. Not so with the Angel GT. The front was very close to the wear bar maybe 10% left at maximum. Sorry I didn't cover this in the video.
First of all thank you for your answer. I have a yamaha MT 07 and i am considering fitting the angel gt or the pilot road 4. The angel gt cost about 50 euros more so i am wondering if they worth the extra money.
Strange. In the US a set of the Pilot Road 4 is +/- $60US more than the Angel GT. The last set of Angel GT I purchased through Revzilla with a price match from another online source. I purchased a 120/70/17 front and a 190/55/17 rear delivered for just under $300US and filed for the Pirelli rebate and received a $40 gift card. The Pilot Road 4 is an excellent tire and a couple of my friends use then to great success. I believe the Angel GT is better because the dual compound region is much narrower confined to a 2.5" band on the rear and 1.25" in the front. This compares to the Pilot Road 4 which 1/2 the tire is the harder compound. What does this mean? Pirelli have come up with a formula that you only really need the harder compound right in the center therefor when you lean even a little you're already into a softer compound. Can't argue with the tread life numbers on the Angel GT so I guess Pirelli are right. Just keep those air pressures up. I run 37psi front 42psi rear. Don't forget to like and subscribe if you haven't already done so. :-)
I haven't. They're apparently designed to work better with ABS systems which I don't have. I did contact Pirelli about getting a set in as much as I have 3 of the top 10 most viewed videos on Angel GTs and 10's of thousands of views on each but they declined.
@@Pmason718 I think at the time I had 85K total views on the three videos. Now it somewhere above 100K. I'm certain between the videos and my answering questions I've sold several hundred sets. It was pretty raw of them.
these tires were great, then i upgraded to the gt 2s and they SUCKED ASS. they wobble after 70mph. They wobble on bridges and grooved pavements. But they were alot stickier than the originals. But isnt worth the sacrifice with the wobbles
Super Duke is a heavy bike. Make sure you're running the recommended pressure. If this tire only lasted 4000 miles I can't begin to imagine how little a lesser tire lasts.
I have a 7,000 mile 1290 SD/GT and I got well 7,000 miles on the rear. I like them, but I would have liked to have got 9, or 10,000. I when I change the set I will be going with Bridgestone Road 5's. I hope to get more miles from them. I live in South Florida. Every road is long strait and flat.
Three reasons if street use. Either you aren't running enough air pressure, most common. You have a heavy bike like a Busa or a torque monster like a Ducati Monster. You ride a lot with a pillion passenger or you, yourself are heavy.
You're looking at dust from the driveway. You cant's see chicken strips because there aren't any. It's worn out to the edge but as has been discussed in earlier comments, like most in the states, there are no twisty roads near by so the majority of our tire wear is in the middle. Look at the earlier video at 3,500 miles and you can see 1/2" strips from just city street and highway riding.
You seem so sure of yourself even though you're completely wrong. They're Angel GTs. I've had 3 sets of them and my 3 videos on them have a combined 120K views. Maybe I should pin your comment so people could laugh at you?
Thank you, now this is a review not like others who say they "love" their tires and barely put like 300 miles. I'll believe a review after 5000 miles.
Glad I could help!
Having watched so many videos to choose the right tire for me, but yours are the ones that have made me go for this tire. -thank you.
I just put them on my FZ-07 this Saturday. I bought them almost entirely because of this review. Thanks
Keep us posted on your experience with them.
How you liking them?
Thanks for a great review. GT's my next tyres. Picking tyres not easy with half truth reviews.
Thank you for the comment and for watching. Keep us posted on what you think of the tires.
Thanks for your video . You've sold me on these things. I've been waiting to hear someone with a literbike give a real world review after quite a bit of miles and you provided just that. They'll be going on my Gixxer 1K. Subscribed. Cheers!
Than k you for watching. Keep us posted on how you like them.
Thank you for the review Monaco GP. I ride Suzuki GSX-s1000f and your review was exactly what I was looking for, especially the part of going from a 50 to a 55 because I was also considering that too. Thanks again.
thanks for posting these! it was nice to see a real world tally of what kind of mileage is possible on these. I was 50/50 w/the rossos, so this helped me decide!
The Angel GT dual compound region is narrow confined to a 2.5" band on the rear and 1.25" in the front. This compares to other GT tires like the Pilot Road 4 which 1/2 the tire is the harder compound. What does this mean? Pirelli have come up with a formula that you only really need the harder compound right in the center therefore when you lean even a little you're already into a softer compound. Can't argue with the tread life numbers on the Angel GT so I guess Pirelli are right. Just keep those air pressures up. I run 37psi front 42psi rear. The Rosso are more of a track tire and if you're primarily a street rider is simply overkill for grip when/if you get them to the proper temperature range and more expensive because they don't last nearly as long. Keep us posted on your experience with these tires! Don't forget to like and subscribe if you haven't already done so. :-)
yeah, my bike's OE was the rosso 2, but then I started to commute more instead of just hooligan time xD so that was why I started to debate switching to the angels
I seriously doubt you'll see much difference. Frankly my bike performs better on the GT than it did on Q3 which I never got more than 3500 or so miles on. The extra mileage is a welcomed bonus.
Ordered my Angel GT's. Great vid.Thanks for sharing.
Come back and let everyone know how you like them after you put a couple of K's on them.
Waiting for mine to be delivered, going on my 2015 Yamaha FJ09, replacing worn Q3's. Thanks for the review.
Appreciate the good review. These tires are ridiculously expensive. Which is probably why someone doesn't come out with a 20,000 mile or higher increased technology tire. If the income ain't broke, don't fix it!
I'm buying my first set of tires for my 2009 Triumph Daytona 675. Was very close to ordering the Pirelli Rosso III's but switched over the the Angel GT's. Good to hear all your positive feedback!
Rosso III's and Corsa's are excellent tires. Simply way overkill on compound for most riders. thank you for the comment and glad to hear everyone's feedback helped you make an excellent choice. Keep us posted.
Based on our review, I purchased a set for my L6 GSXR750 and have to agree that they are so much better then the OEM Bridgestone Battleaxe 16 ( got 8000km out of them).
Grip is confidence inspiring and look hardly worn after 4500km. I would certainly buy another set.
Thank you for taking the time to post your experience with these tires and for watching the video!
Good Review, I run these tires as well and couldnt be happier myself.
I have never heard anyone say anything bad about these tires. So many people throwing money away on track centric tires when they don't come anywhere near realizing the performance limits. This tire easily is 95% of the most popular track centric street tires performance wise, does better in the rain and lasts 2.5 times longer.
Im looking to purchase a set of these soon. 👍 Thanks for your honest review.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment!
Been using these for just over 10 years now ,can’t fault em in any way just so sure footed in every way, and as u say from start to finish.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Just hit 10,000 miles on these with my 636. The rear is pretty much gone, down to the wear bars.
Mine lasted 16,000 ish KM. Excellent rubber for my zx14r. The rear wears a little faster than the front. I believe that because of my bike.
Rears are always going to wear faster than the fronts but on these tires it's much closer. The front had 10-15% remaining when rear was worn through.
Basically is back 2 to 1 front. If u changed them on time.
Hey bro, i know its a long time ago but i need to ask. I have a gen1 hayabusa and im curious how many kilometres u got on rear till the end? Pirelli 190/50ZR17 Angel GT (A) --> im considering buying these. I'm not a rich guy so i need longevity.
Interesting how you said that these tyres stayed a good tyre from start to finish and didn't degrade or fall off badly as they got worn. I find that's true of all pirellis I've ever used, unlike my other favourite tyre bridgestone which I find they really let you know when the tyre is getting done. It can be a catch 22 as the last big tour I did my pirelli burned through to the cords about 100 miles from home on the way back fortunately. But since it had no tread pattern on the middle anyway and it was still super grippy I couldn't tell just how worn it was.
Let the sparks fly 😂😂
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips was a dodgy 100 miles haha definitely had no grip then 😅
If you’re a commuter and do lot of long distance rides then this is the tire for you. But set your PSI a little lower from the Recommended pressure so you get more contact patch from the tire. ( if you are a light weight rider) .They do take a little long to warm up but they are great tires. I had kine for 2 seasons now and they look brand new still. I had the rosso 2s even tho they stuck to the road like gum they barely last 1 season.
Glad i pick these tyre, thanks for this review and now i can see how long i can go with these pair of rubber ;) #viewerfromMalaysia
Let us know
I have the same result with a Michelin road 5. Which is also a sport touring tyre 👍🏻 most ppl don't need an other type of tyre, actually.
Just mounted these on my HondaVFR1200F. Excited to try them out.
How are they going?
Surprised at how well they work with my bike. Definitely make me more confident rider.
Thank you so much for doing this video... I am going to get a set of these!!!
Just ordered a set of these for my CB500x. I wonder how long they'll last on the little CB when people are getting 10k out of them on massive 100+hp sport tourers.
Great review to the end.
Thank you!
I got 10,000 km out of the front only because the camber of the road wore out one side quicker then the other side of the tyre. The rear still has a few more thousand km to go. My only grip is that on the GSXR 750 with firmer suspension, I had to run 34F and 36R and the harder carcass gives some jittering feedback through the rear on bumby roads but it is a sports bike so understandable. The grip has been very good and consistent. Pirelli have now come out with a GT2 which is suppose to be a better tyre. Have you tried the road 5'S?
Road 5 will not last a year on my Blackbird. Cannot wait for GT version so going Pirelli Angel GTs.
Great vids Monaco GP, i wish i had seen your reviews before i had bought my Angel STs, as these won't match the GTs but i hope they will still be a reasonably good tyres nonetheless, but i know what my next purchase of tyres will be, thanks for the great info.👌👌
You'll still get good miles out of the STs and because they're on close out there are some great deals out there on them. Thank you for watching!
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips just out of interest as your vid is 12 months old how did you do on your new pair of Pirelli GTs? Did they match or exceed your last pair?
Thanks. 😀
@@fidsey2 Very similar mileage. I didn't keep an exact total this time around.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips thanks for the info, all the best.👍
Awesome review. Planning on getting these on my 07 R1 and 02 FZS1000 - if i can comfortably get 8.5k on them like your previous video, I'll be happy. Running BT023 on the Fazer and S20 Evo on the R1. UK weather means shit riding conditions, so I'm keen on how they do in the wet
Keep them aired up and they'll last. Thank you for watching and be sure to comment here once you've rum on them for a while.
Thanks for the video buddy
My pleasure. Thank you for watching.
I picked up some Pirelli Angels GT II's. Put them on my Hayabusa. I did get over 7k on my OEM tires. The dealership was surprised. So I'm hoping I will get more out of the Angels GT II. I was wondering if I should have put on the Angels ST. I guess I'll see next round... & nice video.
love the way you talk.
I have them on m y Tuono 2017 for road use. No one needs nothing more.
What air pressure do you run I have a 2013 tuono and I've been running q3+ but I've always ran Angel's on my other bikes so I'm about to switch to them on the tuono since I ride it more than my others
Sad they discontinued these great tyres!
I just bought some at Revzilla. They are still available…for now at least.
They're still available at Revzilla as of November of 2021. Just ordered a set lastnight with $50 off coupon.
I just bought new set made in 2022
@@mariohudincec1537 I still am looking for these in 190! Gold these tyres were! only one left in stock in India though. But My michlien pilot power 3 is new.
What's the difference between angel ST & angel GT
The ST is softer in the midline and therefore doesn't last as long. I'm pretty sure they stopped making the ST in 2016 which is why they're on sale.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips thank you, today I brought 2018 manufactured ST
what is your tire pressure? have you driven at high pressure or normally to get so many km? I just ordered a pair after your review. Thanks 👍
I run 42psi rear and 34psi front. Yes you have to run proper pressure to get the mileage.
After watching this video I think I'm going to get these for my 2013 Gixxer 600. Stock bridgestones are just about shot at 4k miles lol I'm not replacing tires twice a year.
That's where I was. You're going to be amazed at how good these tires are.
Great review, Hi , which tires are best puncher resistance? Which is better for crappy roads and bit of slush and rain infested broken roads?, so how is angle GT given my requirements. I am looking forward to your answer and appreciate as it very important to me. I have a 400cc street nacked bike.
I've had no puncture issues on this tire for now 15,000 miles (1/2 way through my second set). The biggest market share holder Dunlop Q3+ which some of my riding mates run on cannot say the same. So the direct answer is the Angel GT seems to avoid punctures better than others however as you know motorcycle tires are very thin. Rain performance is great but probably not as good as a dedicated rain tire but then again you wouldn't want to run a rain dedicated tire on a daily basis. I have no issues at very high speeds even in significant downpours. I was caught out once with a pillion rider and we did well over the speed limit in a punishing rain for quite a long distance. Slush would be a different story as would gravel on broken roads. For that your going to require some kind of block tread which is no longer a road tire and you'll have the issues concerning fender clearance with those as well. You may need to look at something like Nikki Misurelli runs on her sport bike that she does touring on. ruclips.net/user/nikkimisurelli I hope that helps. Please like and subscribe :-)
Nice review man. I just picked up an 06 Kawasaki zx14 and am looking to get a new set of shoes for it. the current tires are fairly flat in the middle. Been told I can go up to a 200 in the rear. These tires seem like they would be good for the type of riding I do. Think these would work well on my zx14? Thanks for any input!
ZX14s are a heavy bike with a lot of torque. I'd go with the "A" spec version of these.
Thank you also. I am looking for a set of tires for my 18' zx14r that will hold up for the price. I think I just found them. I put about 400 miles on it a week to and from work. The original tires that come on the bike a gone with 5200 miles on them. There only 4 months old. I need a good tire for a heavy bike.
You'll want the A-Spec version for a zx14. It has a stiffer sidewall for heavier bikes. Be sure you keep the pressure up on the rear as well.
How is that mileage possible? My tires are almost worn out after 4500 miles (7000 km), both front and rear. Don´t get me wrong, I love the Angel GT and will be fitting the same ones again, but my tirewear is nowhere near the mileage you get.
I drive pretty inspired and have been on a couple of trackdays but also done a longer trip (just under 2000 miles, 3000 km) to Germany from Sweden.
But they are toast now, maybe I can get another 700 miles out of them but that will be stretching it a bit to far i think.
What is possitive is that i don´t feel a big change in grip, although they are petty worn out. Maybe in wet weather, but i try to avoid that kind of weather anyhow. And they are still round and nice, no flatspots but an even wear all arond the tire.
The Angel GT is a really good sportstouring tire, good for trackdays and good for vacation runs.
Maybe Pilot road 5 is as good as Angel GT, i don´t know, haven´t trid them. And i won´t know during the first part of this season at least because i am not going to change brand for now.
Tire pressure. If you want the longer miles you need to run higher pressure. I run 35/6 psi front and 42psi rear. Also a track day is a whole other story. I haven't run any track days on motorcycles, however my track experience in cars is extensive all the way to pro racing GT cars. That said, I could cook a set of tires and brakes in 1.5hrs. Completely gone. Any time you talk track all bets are off.
Thanks Monaco GP.
I have around the same tire pressure on road, but drops it a bit for the trackdays. And i never commute, or go by motorways if i can avoid it.I guess that can be a part of the equation, but im still impressed of the mileage you got out of them.
Great input. I have to find a 160/60R 18inch for a Fat Boy front tire and have been looking around and came across these.
Seems like this is the tire I need for front end. They seem to do so well.
10K miles on a sportbike seems like a damn good tire to invest into.
Shame they don't seem to make a 240/40 18inch. Would love a full set with this kind of durability.
How much weight do you think you were pulling total 2 up and cruising?
In gear I weigh about 200# and the backpack was around 135#. The bike weighs around 400#. You want to watch mixing tires if you ride in the wet. Many times how the front tire handles water is integral to how the back tire performs. Not sure on sizing for your bike but these Angel GT's do come in an "A" spec version with stiffer sidewalls for heavier bikes.
Alright. Doesn't seem too far off from the expected weight rating for the tires.
This seems like the best tire for the front end I can find.
Thanks for the review.
Look into the "A" spec. I know the rear has a stiffer sidewall, not sure about the front but I'd imagine it does as well.
My problem is getting them in the right size. I need 18inch 160/60 tire for the front. I'm not sure there's an A Spec version of the 160/60ZR 18inch.
I think because these tires are sport touring spec, and this is a rear tire there wouldn't be any issues with it on a front end of a middleweight cruiser. Touring bikes are expected to be heavy.
I can always call harley about tires and see what fits and is strong enough.
Front tread pattern is different than the rear on the Angel GT. As I said earlier the front's are designed to channel water in conjunction with the rear. So, not sure how I'd feel about putting a tire designed for the rear on the front. I looked around and your options are pretty limited. Metzeler?
Damn, i have never been able to get that many miles out of a set of angel gt, I noticed a spec gets a lil less but the best mileage i have managed was about 6000 or just under when i was past wear bar to the belts. Absolutely love how well these tires grip on corners and the wet traction is awesome. And like you, i only use the 190/55 vs the 50. Great review just dont get how you get so many miles. Also i noticed the fronts cup a tiny bit but it is cause they are not the dual compound
Our roads are straight and worn smooth. Also, I don't ride on really hot days (above 90) because I wear gear.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips i would prefer to not ride in anything over 80 tbh but where i live that would mean half the year. I always wear full gear and recently upgraded my jacket to the alpinestars techair race system(flashed for street of course) but that jacket is seriously too hot to wear any day even close to 80 degrees. 17 lbs and feels like wearing a plastic trash bag when it comes to air flow. But yeah cooler means longer tire life for sure. Thanks for the review
I'm sold
Just ordered a set
Let us know what you think. Thank you for commenting and subscribing
Yes, thank you, i know what im about to get, ive tested many models, not satisfied
Hi there. I hope you're still responding to comments. I've been doing my research with these tires but I'm sort of on the fence. (BTW, did you make a review on Revzilla? Lol I think I remember seeing that same 10,378 mileage on there as well) Anywho, I'm worried about these tires because when I search for them, I see people do comparisons between the Angel GT tires & Pilot Road 4s. I HATE the PR4s. They were sliding all around on me. I'm not a track rider nor do I push myself on the streets. So I want to know how aggressive do you ride for you to like the Angel GT tires so much? Every now & then I like to "get it" on the highway on ramps but that's about it. I don't want to second guess myself while cornering. What do you think?
I did post this review to Revzilla. LOL Now to answer your question; The Pilot road 4's are also dual compound but the harder rubber constitutes over half of the make up of the tire while on the Angel GT it's more of a riding ridge 2.75" wide on the centerline of the tire. What this means is the Pirelli gets into softer compound almost immediately when you lean off center. Also the Angel GT doesn't have nearly as many squirm creating sipes as the Pilot 4 a design element Michelin has largely copied on the Pilot 5. The only times I feel any squirm in the tire is over those tar strips they use to seal cracks. Hope that helps. Subscribe and like. Thank You!
Monaco GP Excellent! Thanks for further explaining that.
Glad to help!
What's better this or GT VERSION? For dry wet or track use
If it ain't got flat in the middle that's really a great virtue of this tire. I just installed and have to watch how it perfom
My tyrez a little bimpy,
What solution do you recommend?
Ordered a set last night
Were those A specs for heavy bikes or the regular Angel GT ?
A Spec is for the heavier bikes like the zx14 and Hayabusa.
Monaco GP exactly. I'll take that as a "no, they were the regular Angel GT. " I was just making sure A specs weren't the reason you got so many miles out of them. I'll be ordering a set of these. Thanks for the reviews. Very helpful and to the point. 👍🏼 well done
Sorry I could have made my answer more clear. You are correct I was not / am not running the A-Spec. There is also a D-Spec supposedly designed specifically for the heavier Ducati like the Monster. I run the regular Angel GT's. A lot of people confuse them with the ST. The ST is not nearly as good as the GT.
Thinking of getting these or Pilot Road 5s and I got the same bike
That’s cool. A few weeks ago I was reading up on a bunch of reviews and these tires where highly liked and recommended. And then today I saw your video so. Whenever I require a set of new tires I guess I already know what I’ll be getting.
Cool videos. I’ll be subscribing. Take it EEzzEE
Thank you raztechstudios. They really are an excellent tire for anything but all out track days. The harder dual compound strip is narrower in the center than other manufacturers. This means you get into softer rubber in leans more quickly. People cooking through full on track orientated tires like Q3's and Pirelli Diablo's for street riding are wasting $. I've put a lot of people onto these tires and all are happy they made the choice.
Monaco GP those have a dual compound rubber on the rear tire only and not the front so you think it worth getting tires with dual compound front and rear. Or are those good enough. Just curious.
They are dual compound in the front also. You can see the different compounds once they scrub in a little. These Angel GT's have very narrow dual compound strips compared to other manufacturers. That is what makes them adhere better than the others. As soon as you lean you're on the softer compound. Other manufacturers can have the harder compound covering half or more of the total surface. To answer your question; The front wore in line with the rear having perhaps 10-15% left when the rea wore out. Thank you for the question / comment.
Monaco GP
Thanks for all the great info man. Appreciate it.
Absolutely! Thank you for watching and subscribing!
my set is done now after 3500km only ... i will try the GT2s next and hope it is better.
The GT2 isn't going to give appreciably greater kms. What bike are you on, how much do you weigh and what pressures do you run? The reason I ask is that there is an A Spec version of this tire if you're on a heavy bike. This will prevent sidewall flattening in heavier weight applications. Also it's imperative that you run 34-36 front and 42 rear with these or you won't get the distance because the tire, like any other run at too low a pressure, will flatten out and you won't be riding on the high mileage strip in the center of the tire anymore. If you only get 3600km out of these I'd hate to see your tire bill if running something else and only getting 1K.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips it is a Super Duke GT with 240kg wet and i use the recommended 36 and 43 psi
@@stefan-ge Heavy bike with a lot of torque. Pirelli actually make a "D" Spec version of the Angel GT. The "D" is Ducati and it was designed for the Multistrada. The difference is in the sidewalls. That tire may or may not be in production anymore. You'll have to check. If it's not then get the A Spec. The regular tire is going to flex way to much for that heavy bike that has so much of it's weight on the rear tire.
So what’s the difference between these and the GT 2s? I saw the reviews on RevZilla something about the GT 2s wobbling at highway speeds.
I haven't run the GT2's. I contacted Pirelli for a pair based on the 90,000 views I have across 3 videos for the GT's and the cheap bastards declined. The difference is reported to be water channeling to maximize ABS but your guess is as good as mine. As far as wobble is concerned, I doubt seriously the issue is with a tire manufactured by Pirelli. My experience with any other Pirelli I've run is that if you take care to line the red dot on the sidewall up with the valve stem you need very few, sometimes no weights to balance. I suspect people don't know about that dot. Sorry I can't give you definitive, first person knowledge on the GT2. Thank you for watching.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips I live in Michigan and we have mostly straight roads and virtually no curves, its depressing. I got stock Dunlop Sportmax D214's on my Z900 which are shit, and they are squaring off at 2900 miles on the rear tire. So I want a good sport touring that doesn't wear that fast in the middle.
@@midnightt6991 Right. Most of the US doesn't have twisty roads all over the place. That's why I've been running these. It take me 3hrs to get anywhere with any turns at all hence most of my riding is in the center.
Haha, they will bearly last half as long where I ride (Black Forest and Switzerland). From the looks of that tyre profile, you dont get to ride twisties much at all
It takes a couple hour ride just to get to anything significantly twisty in my area. This is true of most riders and for them this is the perfect tire.
Have you been diagnosed as a narcissist yet or still oblivious?
A sporty tire that last more than 10 000 miles??? I'm getting that on my FZR400R!(If they have the sizes)
Do you know anything about the Pierelli angel GT 2 tires?
You bought a set but I didn't see the condition of the front wore
The front was close. With other brands I could usually give the front to away to someone on a budget as it would have 40% left. Not so with the Angel GT. The front was very close to the wear bar maybe 10% left at maximum. Sorry I didn't cover this in the video.
Would you recommend 190/55 on a 2004 R1 instead of 190/50. I don’t know if it depends on bike or not. I’m looking to buy new tires this week.
Yes. The 55 gives a more convex surface that makes the bike handle better and there is a slight raise of the rear to shift weight forward a little. I had a 98 R1 and always ran a 55.
Monaco GP thanks man!
Any time. You'll like these tires. They're great for anything short of track days.
Have you tried the Rosso 3 or the Bridgestone S21? I'm considering these along with the angel gt for the rsv4, and want to know if the profile of the angel gt is flatter than the rosso 3 and the s21? I've tried the angel gt on the z1000, and I liked it a lot.
I run the 190/55 to get a better peak in the center which is the same or better than the Rosso 3. I don't have any experience with the s21
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips is the tire profile of the angle GT flatter than the rosso 3 or are the both the same?
@@motorjack141 about the same. Like I said I run the 190/55 instead of the 190/50. It really helps the turn in and weight transition.
I'm talking about both tires on 190/55 size though. But anyway, thanks!
@@motorjack141 As I said in my original reply, the Angel GT and Rosso 3 have similar profiles.
Are these "A" spec or regular? I was on cycle gear's website and it was like $10 more for the "A" spec which allows for heavier loads to be taken which shouldn't be necessary for your CBR or my GSXR but I wanted to be sure as to which one you bought so I can try to get the same mileage. Thanks!
There are full discussions about the A-Spec in the comments section. My review is of the standard version. A-Specs are for heavier bikes like Busas, ZX 14's etc.
I just purchased a yamaha FZ1 and the stock rear tire is a 190/50/17. I called yamaha they said dont change the rear tire size but everyone who rides says go to the 55 tire. How much of a difference if any did it play in gas mileage and the final drive of the bike from the acceleration and weight?
For me the speedo read a couple miles high with the 90. With the 95 the speedo is 100% l, GPS verified accurate. There is very little difference either way.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips Thank you brother for that response. I hear the 55 is better for cornering. So I'll pick these up.
yes yes yes the only tire i use.
Do you have any experience with the GT 2's?
I don't. According to Pirelli they're optimized for bikes with ABS. I contacted them to see about getting a set considering my three reviews of the GT's are all in the top 10 videos on RUclips but they declined. I'm due for a new set in the spring. Not sure which direction I'll go. Thank you for watching.
what bike is that? What would have a 190 and be Naked with a short pipe? FZ08? MV Agusta? I'm probably way off. Just trying to see how heavy it is.
2014 CBR1000RR
Are pirelli angel GT good for 2UP??
Any experience on the pirelli diablo rosso 2? If so, how did it compare to these?
Not the Rosso 2 but the Rosso 3. Interestingly the lateral grip isn't much better on the Rosso 3. The high wear strip on the GT is quite narrow compared to others so you get into softer rubber quite quickly when leaning. The Rosso 3 is good for just over 1/2 the miles of the GT and the GT is much better in water. The Rosso 3 is considerably lighter so the bike accelerates a bit better with the Rosso 3.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips Excellent info, thanks.
You didn't show front wear
The front was close. With other brands I could usually give the front away to someone on a budget as it would have 40% left. Not so with the Angel GT. The front was very close to the wear bar maybe 10% left at maximum. Sorry I didn't cover this in the video.
How well do they behave in rainy conditions ?
Water evacuation is great. No issues at all in the rain and light years better than the more race orientated channel designs.
First of all thank you for your answer. I have a yamaha MT 07 and i am considering fitting the angel gt or the pilot road 4. The angel gt cost about 50 euros more so i am wondering if they worth the extra money.
Strange. In the US a set of the Pilot Road 4 is +/- $60US more than the Angel GT. The last set of Angel GT I purchased through Revzilla with a price match from another online source. I purchased a 120/70/17 front and a 190/55/17 rear delivered for just under $300US and filed for the Pirelli rebate and received a $40 gift card. The Pilot Road 4 is an excellent tire and a couple of my friends use then to great success. I believe the Angel GT is better because the dual compound region is much narrower confined to a 2.5" band on the rear and 1.25" in the front. This compares to the Pilot Road 4 which 1/2 the tire is the harder compound. What does this mean? Pirelli have come up with a formula that you only really need the harder compound right in the center therefor when you lean even a little you're already into a softer compound. Can't argue with the tread life numbers on the Angel GT so I guess Pirelli are right. Just keep those air pressures up. I run 37psi front 42psi rear. Don't forget to like and subscribe if you haven't already done so. :-)
haha ok thanks again!
Have you tried the GT 2's?
I haven't. They're apparently designed to work better with ABS systems which I don't have. I did contact Pirelli about getting a set in as much as I have 3 of the top 10 most viewed videos on Angel GTs and 10's of thousands of views on each but they declined.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips Dam dude that sucks they should have sent you a set no problem
@@Pmason718 I think at the time I had 85K total views on the three videos. Now it somewhere above 100K. I'm certain between the videos and my answering questions I've sold several hundred sets. It was pretty raw of them.
Sory compering to the ST VERSION
country of manufacture for this tire?
They are made in Germany
these tires were great, then i upgraded to the gt 2s and they SUCKED ASS. they wobble after 70mph. They wobble on bridges and grooved pavements. But they were alot stickier than the originals. But isnt worth the sacrifice with the wobbles
Thank you for the input!
Mine lasted 4000 miles on my SuperDuke......lol......
Super Duke is a heavy bike. Make sure you're running the recommended pressure. If this tire only lasted 4000 miles I can't begin to imagine how little a lesser tire lasts.
I have a 7,000 mile 1290 SD/GT and I got well 7,000 miles on the rear. I like them, but I would have liked to have got 9, or 10,000. I when I change the set I will be going with Bridgestone Road 5's. I hope to get more miles from them. I live in South Florida. Every road is long strait and flat.
Ar your tyres made in china or brazil
Both my current set and the last set were made in Germany. I wouldn't trust my life to anything made in China.
@@MonacoGP_On_RUclips my set is made in china and in shop says that 120 70 17 and 180 55 17 is al made in china,now i dont know
angel gt 2 only last me 4k miles lol
Three reasons if street use. Either you aren't running enough air pressure, most common. You have a heavy bike like a Busa or a torque monster like a Ducati Monster. You ride a lot with a pillion passenger or you, yourself are heavy.
You could feed a whole village in Afghanistan with those chicken strips!! Jk!
You're looking at dust from the driveway. You cant's see chicken strips because there aren't any. It's worn out to the edge but as has been discussed in earlier comments, like most in the states, there are no twisty roads near by so the majority of our tire wear is in the middle. Look at the earlier video at 3,500 miles and you can see 1/2" strips from just city street and highway riding.
did someone screw you, cuz those are ST, not GT lolz
You seem so sure of yourself even though you're completely wrong. They're Angel GTs. I've had 3 sets of them and my 3 videos on them have a combined 120K views. Maybe I should pin your comment so people could laugh at you?