3 Reasons You Need to Break In New Motorcycle Tires | MC Garage
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- Any time you spoon on new rubber it’s important to avoid sudden acceleration, maximum braking, and hard cornering for somewhere between 10 and 100 miles. Those gentle, initial miles you ride on your new tires is known as the break-in period, and it’s a good idea for a few reasons. We’ll separate the tire break-in facts from the old-school myths in this video from the MC Garage.
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Fresh tires are a great way to revitalize your motorcycle's handling, but any time you spoon on new rubber it's important that you avoid sudden acceleration, maximum braking, and hard cornering for somewhere between 10 and 100 miles. Those gentle, initial miles you ride on your new tires is known as the break-in period, and it's a good idea for a few reasons. We'll separate the tire break-in facts from the old-school myths in this video from the MC Garage.
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I low sided a brand new 1100 Suzuki 20 ft from the dealer, because I wanted to show them how good I was at leaning over.
Damn
I hate to hear that man. Just yesterday i bought a 2011 r1 and the tires were lightly used on it but had huge chicken strips on them as if it was a commuter. I just gave the throttle a quick 1/4 turn in second gear about maybe 4000 rpm and laid it over a bit and the rear slid side ways bad. I was only opening the throttle just to load the suspension for feel and rebound so i closed it just as quick. By the time i realized the rear had give loose i was already letting off the throttle. Otherwise i would have low sided on my first day with the bike. I love the look but the damn jerky low throttle lugging and just all around on off throttle may have me getting rid of it. I bought two bikes anyways but the other one has rear sets that are painfully high. 2014 cbr 1000...only 2800 miles. Ysf has 8800. Im 45 and sill with grins but scared to death at times. Lot of things have changed since my last bikes. Lol.
Well that's one way to do it...
I low sided my brand new S1000rr 20ft from the dealership and straight back to the workshop. Costly lesson.
Like they were watching
Recently laid down from accelerating to fast on tour tires that only had 50 miles, I'm ok, bikes ok, lesson learned. 6 weeks with a fractured shoulder will remind me new tires are no joke. Thanks for the vid.
Am I the only one who thinks the statements "I'm ok" and "[I have] a fractured shoulder" seem contradictory?
At first maybe, but in the end he'll heal and ride again, no lasting damage I'm guessing.
I guess ok compared to dead, eh?
Broken bones heal. But the trophies last forever. But unfortunately later on the arthritis does too !!!!!
Yeah micro fracture. 6 weeks later 100% recovery. "I'm ok" as in I laid a bike down going over 30mph and was very lucky to only have a micro fracture! Haha. Also I was wearing the appropriate gear and helmet so..
I'm pretty sure you should be uploading workout videos too dude.
Dudes skinny
Hard > big if you're wanting to ride fast.
he had surgery done to his shoulders last year or so due to an accident and have recently taken up long distance cycling. been skinny ever since.
Where's the off road segment section all I see is track and adventure information never any off road information
M Dub So would I...
Ya give that naughty slippery tire a nice slap. 4:10
blakekrocks 😅😅
blakekrocks it has been a bad bad tyre
😂😂😂
LOL YESSSS!! Feel that rubbery slick juicy surface! WHAPAAA!
I was here just searching for this comment
You need to break-in a tire that's been unused for awhile. Tires surface area oxidize over time and do not grip until that surface is Scuff up again.
Thank you for the time and patience on the safety of scrubbing, so many riders are giving bad advice to semi new riders.
So, thanks brother. "RIDE ON"
Great tips and info. You should mention how critical it is to monitor the pressure, ideally before each ride and certainly when the temps. change. It's an often neglected practice.
Keep a hand or foot pump around to quickly add some pressure if it's a cold day.
Always helpful tips and tricks! Keep up the great job!
You need to upload these videos more often! They are awesome!
I just want to say Thank You MC Garage, for your videos.. they are the best at explaining things.. ! keep up the Awesome work. !
usaf vet Thanks for watching. We're glad you like the show.
usaf vet agreed!
Im glad you mentioned braking as well as accelerating to warm a tyre. There are many that forget about a freewheeling cooler front tyre
You uploaded right on time, I just put on new tires on my bike this week. Great info, good to have followed them even beforehand!
I didn't know about tire break in. You'd think they might mention it in the MSF course.
Love MC garage material! Just started riding before 2017, so I’m always learning & wanting to extend my knowledge & skill, both mechanically & time in the saddle.
Any chance you guys do a clip on the cafe racer chop, cut, rebuild culture. Some good examples of what is safe to do in customizing & what’s not so much? (i.e. shortening front forks, taller rear springs, bigger tires on rims & spokes, and extending swingarms. Metal differences on frames for welding)
Thank you for the many great videos. MC Garage helps a lot and is entertaining as well. The thoroughness and way you present does the job.Keep them coming!
Glad you like them!
Cheers Mate. That was very helpful. I changed front Tyre and almost had an accident.
This explains why I felt insecure with the new Mitas E-07 tires on my Honda Transalp. After riding some gravel, they handle better in corners.
Please make a video on how to properly break-in a brand new motorcycle and tips on Run in period !
Please bro !
Thanks so much. Very informative. I changed tires 2 days ago. Glad I found this site.
Thanks for the video🤙 spun out today on fresh rubber be careful out there
Your vids are surprisingly spot on, It still boggles the mind that so many american you tube channels talk out of their arse when it comes to tyres.
We have people in the UK who sandpaper their tyres to look like that have skill and can get their knee down. We call them twats.
gotta get rid of them chicken strips!
those are safety strips! lol
Negative. If you think so you fail to take into account unforeseen circumstances that may very well require full lean swerve to avoid and if you haven't done that then you won't do it in an emergency. This is time proven with riders freezing and slamming into cars that cut them off or simply straightening up the bike and locking the rear brake. When overwhelmed they react badly often causing injury to themselves in the process. I consider chicken strips straight up (ha ha get it LOL) rider incompetence.
@@curvecrazy , well said!
I totally forgot there was a difference in spelling for tires/tyres 😂
So I work as a package handler for FedEx and we get tons of tires everyday being shipped to dealers and private buyers. I can say that after handling the tires they do actually have a coating on them similar to what he said, like a Teflon almost. After handling the tires, my hands are always VERY slippery. We get low end to high end tires coming through the warehouse. Just my two cents
Thx. That makes sense.
Your channel is the best. It's like Motorcycle Maintenance 101, love it man.
Thanks for all of the information, I am getting a new set of tires for the first time later on today.
Love the Pirelli night dragons! I've had serval sets on my street bob, and they grip very well for a cruiser (they're more of a "performance cruiser tire") tire but last for thousands and thousands of miles? Nah about 6-7k miles in my experience, but still the best mix of traction and mileage for me.
Drew w how the hell is 6-7,000 miles not thousands and thousands of miles?? What kind of garbage ass tires are you guys running to where that's considered low mileage? You also have to remember that Ari is a sportbike guy and in the sportbike world that's VERY good mileage. Hell I'm happy if I get 3,500 miles out of a rear Q3!
Well looks I now know the secret to build muscle now. Catching and throwing bike tires. LoL
Great video on why and how to scrub in new tires. Well-spoken and clearly knowledgeable on motorcycles.
Excellent videos from MC Garage...!!! Lot of learning, I thought I had good knowledge about lot of these stuff, apparently I was wrong about most of them..!!! Lol...!! Keep it coming....!!!
Whether there is mold release (on a crap brand tire) or just a glass finish on the rubber, it is the same thing. That mold release does not just fling off though, It(or the shiny rubber without a release agent) does not wear off until that portion of the tire touches the road. It doesnt matter what grease or oil is on the surface, you just need to wear it off by running the entire profile of the tire against the road surface. I mount my own tires and generally break them in within about 1 mile..... I go to the nearest parking lot and start doing a circle and gradually decrease the radius (not increase speed) until my pegs touch the ground on each side. That is all it takes, about 2 minutes tops.
Problem is, about half of the riders out there have never touched their pegs down in their entire riding career... And for those it doesnt matter if their tires are scrubbed because when they need to use the edge of the tire, they instead hit the brakes and stand the bike up to go straight off the road/exit/onramp/cliff/mountain/shore/island/ditch/edge of the earth.
I concur with Riley. I've been running sport touring tires for ages and my new tires are scuffed in edge to edge within 4 miles tops. Reason it takes me that long is I use the nearest good curve in the road which is 2+ miles away. I usually have the tires more than 60% approx scuffed by the time I get to that curve just from the ride over. I go back and forth a few times usually 3-4 times and at that point I'm knee down both ways and off I go for more of the same. I don't find hard acceleration and braking necessary to warm up the sport touring tires. They seem to get warm enough, in 50-70 F+ riding weathers, in the two miles to the first good curve. That being said I'm not your "average" rider.
I do figure 8’s in a parking lot first then “break in” on the road carefully.
Like the video. As a new rider just getting on a bike for the first time this info is valuable. I want to be safe as possible . every clue to safety is valuable. And can save life's. Thanks
What do I really need to do to prepare and store my garaged bike over winter? Thank you for all the content, much appreciated!
Hi. Great videos, thanks. I live in Canada and we're about to have to park our bikes for the winter (November to March). I used to put my bike on a jack to keep the weight off the wheels, but I recently heard its not really necessary. 1) our winters aren't really long enough to damage the tires (create flat spots). 2) Rather than jack the bike so the wheels are off the ground, you can over inflate the tires close to max so they wont develop a flat spot. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
hey....please make a video on tyre dry rot...please...
Awesome videos. Really easy to understand and cover really interesting topics. keep up the great work.
Thank you for the advise… I was thinking along the same lines but just wasn’t sure if I was missing anything….
Got my new 93 cbr900rr sideways as hell leaving the dealership. Looked cool AF (as if it was on purpose) but scared the living shit out of me. That was 200k+ miles ago ;)
200k? That's amazing
The best channel and presentater on you tube
I agree. We can see that these presentations are very well prepared and executed: scripts, technical information, easy to understand and enjoyable to watch.
best chanellele and presentater
Your Vids are always good,loads of real information.Your knowledge is always spot on,good work mate.
Excellent. Just put a new front tire on my Harley Heritage.
Heard about the 100 mile break in just didn't know why.
Ive never breaked in tires but as a machinist i can tell you one thing if it takes forever to grind something your probably using the wrong tools or the wrong sandpaper i dont think there are rubber sandpapers but im pretty sure that if you have enough corse sandpaper it should work to some degree atleast better then he said it would be
Just got a new set, this answered a lot of the questions I was wondering about thanks.
I dont know if I had been looking enough with your videos or not, but I came across mc garage videos looking for a video for advantages and disadvantages for link type and standard rear suspension setup. I don't know if the information about these two is self explanatory or not, but I have not seen a video that pretty much explains both, and I am confident if you have or had a video about it, it would be very good to watch.
The number of crash videos of guys going down immediately after getting a new bike are ridiculous lol. Surprised the dealers don't tell them to go easy at first.
Even my driving instructor once had a mishap with new tyres. In that respect, I am very with my Conti RA3 as they are really easy to break in.
Dealers don't give a shit. The only thing they care about is that they have a nice fat check from the bike they just sold you.
With hypersport tires, I've never needed a break-in period. They grip as well as I'd expect them too from the get go. I've never had any issues.
MotoBoy yeah my Q3's have always been VERY grippy right from the get go.
And which hypersport tires have you used? I'm shopping for some.
@@justaguy4real I've ridden on pretty much everything, but for a hypersport day to day tire, I think the Bridgestone S22 is a really excellent option. Lasts a decent amount of miles with excellent grip and warm up time. They also commonly have a $50 rebate and you can get a 120/180 set for under $150 shipped after rebate if you shop around online.
@@DearMajesty great, thx. so you think that a better option than PP2CT's?
@@DearMajesty thx for your input. helped the decision. I changed my order from PP2CT's to Battlax S22's. Just seems to make more sense as the PP's are decade plus older technology and discontinued overall, with the S22's so much newer and likely to be around for quite some time to come.
excellent - best summary about tire break in I've seen - thanks very much
Thanks, I put in new tires today and I lost a bit of traction when doing a turn, I didn't fall thankfully but I was alarmed lol, so I need to ride for a bit and break in the tires before taking "risks" lol.
I was looking at that rear fender like how the fuck that thing stay on there lmao, TGIF
THANK GOODNESS ITS FRIDAY
MrMJJ23 I was tripping for few seconds too 😂😂😂
Look at all that Belray on the shelf 👍
Green Machine yeah must be nice to be sponsored by them. They make great stuff but you'd have to have Trump's bank account to have that much Belray products in your garage. Lol
Simple and straight to the point! Just love MC garage!
"Get used to the tires" Too true! The new tires I put on my baby Ninja 250 were night and day from the factory stock. So much more stable and grippy and fun to ride, right from the first mile leaving the dealer.
5:08 Ari about to drop a mixtape
Not the right way for sure, but I was always told that I needed a solid burnout session to clear the grease out. Probably just my old man wanting an excuse to do excessive burnouts
Its the edges of the tyres which need scrubbed in not the centre, like he says find a twisty road and run up and down it progressively leaning the bike further onto its edge on each corner, it doesn't need to be fast either, I scrub my right hand edges on roundabouts over here in the UK by circling them on a quiet morning and the lefts I do on a country road.
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Completely agree with this video i put on a new set of touring tires on my bike within the third day layed it down from hitting the brakes going down the interstate
A very informative and good video clearing up misconceptions with science and logic.
sander is good for 🍗strip Delete mod!
They need to bring back motorcycle wheel toss to the summer Olympics
Yup, in the spirit of the ancient Greeks, chariot wheel toss.
Love your MC Garage so much...will hope to see how to brake in a new motorcycle engine in MC garage
Awesome video, great insights, thanks for doing this video!
make a video of how to break in a brand new bike pls
ride it hard
Plopa sub I agree, ride the damn thing hard, it works better than the factory break in process, google hard break in
You could read your manual and go with the guidelines of the manufacturer that designed and built the engine from scratch and have been doing so for decades, or you could listen to the advice of some random hot shots online that at most rebuilt a few engines and never designed one by themselves, it's your choice.
Thuned The makers usually recommend a hard breakin these days. The problem is that people don't read the manual and ride very gently. Just RTFM
Thuned 3/4 throttle is plenty to seat the rings, and at low revs it's a manifold pressure very nearly as high as full throttle. They also say to avoid running at a constant speed. So use 3/4 throttle, but only for a few seconds, then shut the throttle and let it draw up oil and cool down. Just like what Motoman says.
Sound like a burn out excuse to me😎...."Wyd buddy? Breaking in my new tires."(Larry the cable guy vc)😭💀
Videos like this can save someone a crash. Thanks!
Slick new tyres = awesome drifting ! Drifted on a roundabout on my little 125. Once the grip starts to take hold it’s sad times.
@Motorcyclist Magazine, i did something stupid. I'm a new rider and i put armour all on my tires, what is the best method to remove it?
xxNeoncryxx Yikes! Wipe 'em down with a clean rag and isopropyl alcohol, then break them in as normal.
drive it slow for 10 min or use soap and water. Or both.
rub it off with some engine oil
return bike to dealer. youre not ready yet...
Generally people would ride it around in the style you'd expect from an inexperienced but cautious rider (should be easy). It'll come off in a few miles, it's not much worse than oil.
Disclaimer: comment intended for entertainment purposes only. Don't take safety tips from random idiots with RUclips accounts.
Rubber hardens sitting over time.
U guys are awesome and for sure deserve a better recognition
Low side 2 weeks ago.
didnt factor in Brand new tires in post wreck analysis.
Thank you.
was leaning aggressively... On a sportster
Low tire pressure and throttle wasent up.
Damn... I have serious 🍗🍗🍗 strips on my tires compared to yours. FML......
650ib dayummmm hahaha
If you enjoy your ride, you shouldn't even look at them ;)
Those are track tires, it's normal for them to look like that after a few laps on the track, if your tires are that fuzzed and balled up from street riding you might need to rein in the street rossi antics a tad.
@mrvwbug44
Street Rossi? You mean Street Cripple?
That's because you mostly just ride in a straight line as fast as possible. LUL
if I do a small burnout will that help?
Why on earth would you do a burnout rather than take the opportunity to go for a ride?
A lot of new tires will also have a protective layer that helps to conserve them. It´s the reason why you can buy an older tire and have it work just as well as if it was straight from the factory. It will come off if you heat the tire by riding or if you just put it on tire warmers for 15-30 minutes (standard 80°).
This is the most informative video that i have found.....awsome suff man
Break in a new motor easy or hard?
HARD BREAK-IN ON MOTOR. !
I've heard mechanic say do it hard.... like you would your mrs
I agree, they should do a video on that topic, How should you break in a brand new bike.
it all depends on how long you want your engine to last
hard and change the oil and filter before the first 1000 miles
1:38 voice crack
Nice content as always! Love watching your videos 😁
I found it quite interesting that they don't actually put release agent on the tread surface itself. But I wonder if they put a preservative/protectant on the tire to prevent the rubber from perishing while it is stored. Because rubber does dry out the longer it sits exposed to the elements.
Ari bring back the dreadlocks, bro!!!!! lol!!!! you were wild once; dont let them tame you!!!
jdwm This look is much better. Grown man swag
It took me some videos of Mc garage to realise it's the same guy I used to see in "on two wheels".
Fashion accessories make someone "wild"??
I think its so his head fits better into a helmet
A while back he was baffled that people are still asking him to bring them back since it's been years heheI actually remembered that when the vid started and I looked at his hair, and here you are hahaha
Burn out will remove slick spot in center but does nothing for sides which is what you are on in a turn. Come on folks common sense tells you the slick film must be removed from entire tread area. 40 yrs of riding, I found a empty lot or deserted industrial area road is best for many things like tires and brakes. No traffic and slowly ease into sharper turns to slowly scuff off the film from entire tread area. Breaking and bedding in new brakes also good idea. FOLLOW manufacturers bed in procedure where you cab heat cycle and cool pads, and, or new rotors properly. Back in the day my ferodo (spelling?) pads said to do a cuple of 30 mph to ALMOST stop with a cool down period in between, then 50 mph a couple of times. This heat cycles but does not glaze pads, with cool down spots. Basically heat cool, heat cool in progressive steps.Brakes then had all the bite I could handle. OH testing and getting feel for brakes in empty area is great to know the limits before you need a panic stop.
Get with the times there's guys drifting now which amounts to a burnout ridden in circles and does indeed scorch right to the edge of the tires both sides if they know what they're doing. Of course the basic 99% of them don't.
Yeah do a drift burn out on edge of new tire see what happens, you will crash. The slick film is so slick you will go down fast and hard, but by all means do it. fast way to weed out ignorant riders fast and in a hurry. Hope you have full insurance for bike and body, bye bye dumbass.
curvecrazy lives in snow country where you can ride like 3 months a year...maybe when he finally gets a bike he will understand
Dude? Are you kidding me? Do me a favor and keep your BoolSheet comments to yourself. No a well seasoned stuntrider doing said drifting on a new tire is not going to crash. I've seen it done and my locals ARE NOT pros. How do you think they get the tire scorched to the edges? They aren't out riding curves at the necessary lean angles they (majority of them) haven't got the balls. Fact. Sorry. And, btw, I'm distinctly not a dumbass as you put it. That would better describe YOU. I have 33 years dedicated street riding experience now approaching 800,000 miles riding experience. Few ride at my level which is advanced expert. If you're even in the ballpark of my motorcycle riding ability or awareness then you'd be a 1%er. Your comment confirms you know fook all basically. You're probably the guy riding 100 miles to break in new tires and you still have 1.5 inch chicken strips even so while I'm off the edges of those new tires in under 2 miles (there done no more mold release compound or chicken strips) and tires are ready and off I go to ride awesomely.
Btw... I have multiple bikes all high mileage and our riding season is 6 months if you have proper gear for all weathers. FYI.
After more or less the same frequency,a mold release lubricant (MRL) is sprayed inside the molds to avoid the green tires to stick inside them after the curing process. Thus this leaves a very thin layer on the treads (as well as the sidewalls).
Been there and done that, low sided within 5 miles of the cycle shop right in front of my father in law (his daughter rides on the back!). Low speed cornering across painted lines at a four way stop.
I just do a good 15 second burnout within the first 5 miles when I get new tires 😂
Yeah, for sure... But how do you burn out the front...
I once managed to crash due to not taking off the sticker.
Don't forget to peel off the sticker on helmet shield next time you buy a new helmet.
huh, I thought it would get scrubbed off, good to know!
I appreciate your honesty
We usually recommend to use a bit low pressure to get the tyres to warm up good and have a lot more contact patch.
50-100km on tar and a bit of twisting will get it done quick.
Then let the tyres cool down 15 minutes and pump to correct pressure - et voila!
I was thinking 5 miles on a dirt road.
Yeah. My Benelli 302s (2022) got sideways on me the first time I made a turn on it. It was brand new I had just brought it home with 1 mile on it and did not think about the new tires. Glad I kept it up but damn I did not need coffee that day LOL.
Bollocks, we haven't needed to do this for several years. Ride normally and you'll be fine.
Just do a quick burnout less than 20 sec.
Burnout does not help the FRONT.
And actually only scrubs off a narrow band that works if you are not taking a corner
so essentially, you didn't do ANY good for the parts that count.
go ahead. Do it your way and you are committing suicide if you think it worked
Mr. Leon cant do a burnout on my red rose 50...
Mr. Leon That’s what I was thinking
didn't know your bike can do a front wheel burnout... must be a special bike
Allan Murray AWD? 😂
Tire lube during mounting can get onto the tread area. It is very slippery in the wet so might be a good idea to wipe them down after mounting.
My BMW has tire pressure sensors so I always know when my temps are good as the BAR readings go up, which doesn't take me long to do!
Thanks another informative update Cheers!
Well done - thanks for the good info
I agree that the new profile is one of the main reasons, however I find that temperature is the number one ingredient necessary. If your new tires are fully hot, they will be ready for intense riding almost immediately, in my experience. YMMV
Great information, Thanks for sharing
My brother almost learned that tire temp is important the hard way, he was dicking around doing skids up to traffic lights (which he does a lot and normally handles fine) but the bike had just been sitting for hours on a cold night while he was at work. Came sooo close to the rear end washing out and dumping him in the road
Hi nice channel
can you make a video about front fork (dirt bike) alignment ? Or off road in general?
As always, you're the man Ari! Great tips. :-)
Really useful video, thanks!
Good info and points shared thank you so much...
i dont know if you covered this before but i would like to know about soft break in and hard break in for new engines....thx
Gonna go to my first day any basic 101 tips on things to do to my bike. I have had so much advice already from friend riders some logical some even contradictory like one said inflate my tires while the other said deflate my tires...just want some food advice so advice so I and felllow "newbies" don't throw our nice shiny bikes down the road. ..thanks Scott S
Can't say they don't use any releasing agent on motorcycle tires ...
But I did work for one of the biggest car brands in the world, and we regularly applied an armor all type substance to both the sidewall AND tread on certain types.
i put on a new rear tire the same series newer year made and ended up low side out of track in my practice parking lot just within couple hours . and again on street 4 days later hahaha. know i learn more to be cautious to a new hard compound tire. because i changed front tire not long before and it worked better in all means since the first touch. but the front tire was medium compound.