@@slowrider1513 that sounds like you were tracking it. If that’s the case, that’s very high mileage. Otherwise you probably either ride like you stole it or got a defective set of tires
Great video. I will add my own experience to the tire break in myth: My RC-51 had brand new (2014) Power 3s with about 2 miles on them. It was cold and the ground was moist. I lived on a lake with a steep driveway that transitioned right onto a highway. As soon as I pulled onto the highway and let my clutch out, the rear gave out and I found myself highsiding. Ambulance ride and a crushed quadricep later... I learned a valuable lesson that those first 50 miles are still dangerous if you don't scrub them in or respect them.
Me on the first sport bike, got nail in my brand new bike so I got it replaced, then on the way back home at fwy entrance ramp I leaned as I would usually and just slid right out😂
Well kind of, the inner rubber that is part of the cords on a car is not sticky. Bike tires also have a stronger inner liner. That S' ain't good for grip, It is like going to a brand new tire when the traction compound wears through.
I'm just here to say thanks for all the advices in the last years! I made my decision and I'm really happy with the purchase of the Busa as my first bike. Couldn't get a better bike, it's comfy and powerfull with a lot of room to groom my skills into it.
@@enthic4532 turbo busa is the best bike to learn how to get fast around corners. If you want to learn something, get a turbo busa. It's the best all around bike for beginners. It really goes without saying.
My motorcycle mechanic who used to race bikes says we spend too much money on the latest tyres as most tyres, down to even budget tyres will outperform most riders, even in the wet. He recommends Bridgestone BT023's which is a 10+ year old tyre and the tyre Ron Haslam uses in his race school apparently. My Metzeler Roadtec 01's were disappointing as they squared off sooner than I was led to believe they would.
I had two different sport touring tires on two different bikes and they couldn't even lean enough to drag knee before losing traction and sliding. Switched to hypersport tires and have plenty of grip now.
@@superbarnie - That is because you never learned to ride a bike. You lose traction in the corner. You are doing something terrible wrong. Or it’s something wrong with your bike. But most of the time, it’s the rider, not the tires or the bike, that can’t make the corners.
Glad to have your information for the Road 6 tires, thanks! I took my wheels in for a Honda dealer to inspect, mount and balance the new tires. The mechanic stated about four versions of “ride easy for at least 100 miles”. And that is exactly what I am doing. My 1300 calls for 41 pressures on both, but I’ve backed that off 2-4 pounds, like you, paying attention to variables. Reading the Michelin brochure on construction details tends to explain gripiness when leaning over into a turn, including the size of the contact patch. I am happy with the tires.
I prefer sport touring tires. Good ones provide consistent grip over a wide range of temperatures and superior grip on the wet. Currently running Metzler Roadtec 01s on the RT, but found Bridgestone T30/31 Evos to be really good, too, on my FZ-8. I don't really enjoy riding in the rain, but sometimes it can't be avoided and I want as much grip as I can get.
I had a pair of Roadtec 01 on my FZ-09 and they were excellent. I just put a pair of Michelin ROAD 6 on my 2018 Mt-09. Too new to comment on the new Michelins.
Sound advice... l have ridden the Bridgestone T30 Battlaxe on one bike and the T 31 on my current bike. Bang for the buck and performance all around their hard-to-beat tires. Unless you ride hard or track day a fair bit sport tires are a waste IMO. Sports touring tires are kinda the sweet spot for most riders I believe.
Hayabusa rider here. I love the Shinko 777 because of the grip to the road. I run about 30-32 psi, anything near 40 psi and she’ll spin with the slightest flick of my wrist
I've had my 2005 Suzuki GSXR 750 for over 5 years and 32,000 plus miles traveled. I tried a few different tires Two summers ago I had pirelli angel gt2s this last summer I had the Diablo Supercorsa's But in between I have used what has risen above all the Michelin pilot road 5's . I put on a fresh set just a few months ago prepared to use as soon as summer ended. The Michelin pr5s I had prior to that with regular commuting on the weekdays and a spirited ride at least twice a month on a weekend I still got 14,000 miles out of the front and 15,000 out of the rear. Just my 2¢ opinion of a year-round Oregon rider
@@killatrix5668 I Wondered myself Speculation amongst the guys at the (motorcycle) shop suggested it was because I use front brakes entering corners more than rear brakes Plus rear tire has greater surface area 🤷🏼♂️
I prefer a hypersport tire on my MT09 for the handling in the mountain twisties. They heat up fast in our climate (Interior BC (Canada)). I find the wear is consistent all around for my riding style. Warm up is important. Probably not as much in Texas. Trust in the corners is my first consideration.
I roamed the BC interior a lot: there aren't enough corners to keep the tires hot, even in the Lillooet to Mt. Currie stretch, the corners are too far apart. Does not really matter how fast you go, as soon as there is a small straight your tires will not be in perfect temperature before the next series of corners. You'd be better served by a sporty sport touring tire (like conti road attack or similar). Not to mention that you would also be much safer in the day the forecast is wrong and it rains on your ass on Hwy8.
@@gnumel I don't know what you ride, and in what conditions, but my S21's have been bullet proof. Even on the edge of the tire, I've had zero slip when pulling full trotle out of any corner. My MT09 isn't the most powerful bike, but I trust my tires, and will continue using the Bridgestone hypersports I trust. I'm sure I'm not changing your mind, so you do you! Ride safe.
@@noelpatenaude3584 I had a Tracer 900, so same engine, I can guarantee you that you can pull out of hairpins in second gear and full lean on a Michelin Road 5, with the added advantage that you can also be fully confident in the rain and when outside it's 3°C, and they lasted me 16000km, and I finished the front before the rear, which to me is always a great indicator of a tire that gives you a lot of confidence entering corners :)
I kept Dunlop Q3s on my 2012 CBR1000RR for YEARS. Commuting during the week, canyon-carving during the summer, and track days a couple times a year. I got tired of replacing my tires every 3k miles, so I switched to Pirelli Angel GTs, and I NEVER LOOKED BACK. There was a small, but noticeable drop-off in turn-in responsiveness, but not enough for me to miss the Q3s. The only time I felt a difference in edge-grip was in the canyons dragging knee on a 100°+ July afternoon, in the middle of a pack of fast riders on every hypersport tire imaginable. I do not recommend Angel GTs for trackdays if you’re an A or B-group rider. But like YammieNoob said, if you’re a street rider who is wearing out the center of your tire before the sides, you need a good sport-touring tire.
Soooooo, after 3 years of riding I think I was a pretty decent rider. I have no memory of it but I had a car pull out in front of me, as far as I can tell from what I was told it's not my fault the car just pulled out in front of me and I wasn't able to avoid it. Happened on the 17th of September and I'm still in the hospital fighting to keep my leg, I barely survived but thankfully the Dr's worked hard to save me and my leg. Wiped out the hospital of all their blood in the process XD TLDR, no matter how good of a rider you are, it only takes a second of feeling over safe to let something happen.l
Dark siding is popular among the long distance riders (although I don't). Contrary to popular belief, they don't affect the handling that much, they cost less than MC tires, and you can easily get 40,000 miles out of some of them.
Road 5 is a great all round tyre with long life, great value in the long term. Power 5 is a road tyre that’s grippier and more responsive (fun) if you like a more sporty ride round the twisties on a Sunday thrash. It won’t last quite as long as the road, although way better than stickier tyres used to, thanks to the high silica content. Tyres have come a long way,, either tyre is great, lucky us.
running a set of conti road attack 1 on my tuono v4, the rear is cooked and lasted 3100 miles (5000km in south africa) the front will easy do 2000 miles more with the thread still on it. keen to test the M9RR next
Got Bridgestone T32s on mine, so far notice almost no change performance wise from S22s, but better wet weather control. Hopefully they will also have much longer endurance as well
i used the t32s for a year on My s1000r and it was a great tire. not that great for harder riding tho. Just switched to a conti sportattack 4. now that's a great sport tire :D
@@pieterjan81 I thought the wet and dry grip was pretty good on the t32? was looking at getting it for my vfr with full luggage and pillion, road 6 looks better for the dry but think the t32 is the longer lasting tire
Michellin Road 5's FTW for street tires on anything 600c or less. (Dont own a 1000cc so cant compare or comment) Had the Road 5's on my 04 R6 and they lasted me almost 16,000 miles and 1 track day before I saw the wear bars. I now have them on my Ninja 400 and they handle great on street and track. Amazing. Michellin did great making this tire.
Ignore his air pressure, look up your bike's manufacturer recommended tire pressure. It may show tow different air pressure setting due to the weight of the rider etc.
I resemble that last statement. I own a Harley cruiser and take the term seriously. Granted because of where I live I may cruise at 85mph for long stretches, but when I hit the twisties up in the higher elevations I tend to slow down more than most, enjoy the wind and scenery. I go for longevity and all season type tires. I may not be fast, but I will ride in sub freezing temps if the roads are dry. Of course I have grip heaters and electric gear. I may be stupid for buying an overpriced Harley, but I should get extra credit for the right gear.
"extra credit" here you go sir, you've earned this! also harleys are not that bad. we ride to be happy not set records. if a harley makes you happy then it's a good bike.
@@SoulTouchMusic93 if you buy a Harley and want to have a super fast and quick bike, you are barking up the wrong tree. You can drop a 131 stage IV in it and a X Diavel off the showroom floor will still smoke you.
@@michaelconran5252 Have not seen a bike smoke, GoldZilla before (Blockheads lowrider S Stage4). And it has only 151hp/150 torque. He smoked a MT09, like it was parked. Just walked away…
Hey Yammie-you squid extraordimaire! Ive got a 1981 Honda cb650 inline 4 cylinder with 31K miles on it. Not ridden for the past 22 years. Has been stored in New Mexico by the owner who lives there. Front tire is: 3.5 x 17 / Rear is: 4.5 x 15. I may need to go to a Honda motorcycle dealership for the proper xhoice of NEW tire.🏍️👍 Letting them install on the bike the new tires. Doug
I am on my second set of michelin road 5 with my fz07, and I dont think my bike can reach their limit on the street or the occasional track day. I have never felt that would give up on me. Great for spring and fall riding when its colder, or when the weather is grey and the casual riders all hide away and the leave the streets open =)
Same, I have a XSR700 and push Road5s hard and have not had any loss of traction other than dirt/gravel in road. I do run 36/42 psi though because I'm fat 😂.
Anyone who reads: Bridgestone S22 on my ZX636R '05 lasted 11k kilometers (~7k miles) and it finally met wear indicator. 70% of life was on curvy roads, from edge to edge w/out chicken strips. Gonna buy another set during winter.
@What In Da World when talking about tire wear, describing the tire wear is pretty important. A tire that lives in the corners is going to be quite different than a tire that lives in a straight line after 7k miles.
@What In Da World & @Z. Smith as @jadejajensen said, tire was thoroughly ridden, some ~1.6k km [1k miles] was on highway rest of it on curvy roads, as someone would say: knees down [fyi: Mac and Devin go to high school]
@What In Da World Yes, it do. It say that the gay don't know anything special about riding a bike. Ride a bike for 2 years, and you probably know more about bikes. Don't ever take advice from someone using the word chicken strips, seriously. It is a sure thing, they have very little knowledge who a bike work and are fare from being good rider. The person is a noob, trying to give bad advice to other noobs, so feel better about him self. People that talk seriously about "chicken strips", are bad riders… Period.
I am running pilot road 4 now on 2007 FJR1300. Would the Road 5's be a good replacement. Front is still good. Back needs replacement ( of course). Will it be a good match or should I source out a new Road 4. I'm pretty happy with those Michelins.
@@bobcaygeon4533 Road 5 is a whole new family of product. You can get away with mixing Road 5s, Power 5s, Power GPs, and tyres from that family but the Road 4 has completely different carcass structure, different thread pattern and different shape. Depending on front tyre life i'd just fork out for the Road 5s, front tyres are cheaper anyway.
Love Michelins of all kinds, but due to a great deal I picked up Dunlop Roadsmart 3s. 3,000+ miles and they still look new. But, I don't ride crazy and check pressure often
Okay, I give up, I'll sub. Yeah, I know, I should have sooner, given how many of these videos I watch, there's no good excuse. Still, I feel like the vid quality (and writing especially) is on the upswing again lately so I wanna throw my money in the hat or whatever. Keep it up!
@@Spartan13579 if they've reached the wear marks or the bike feels funny or even starts wobbling then yes..you should change them asap. The bike will feel so much different in a good way
@@Spartan13579 do you know what a wear indicator is?if you look at your tread there will be Lil lines running thru them, if the tread is flush with that line then it's time to replace.Good luck,ride safe and stay upright!🤙
Getting ready to retire my 2001 FZ1. I had metzler on before. I live on an island in alaska and will be going to Washington together new rubber. Any current tire tips for a metzler fan?
in Germany the recommended time is 5 years.. but storage of the Tires play a huge part here. You can use them longer or shorter depending on the conditions. Garage only is different than sun exposed.
@@eQui253 Absolutely. It also depends on the individual tyre and use case. For example, a hard touring tyre on a cruiser that isn't pushed will be safe to use for longer than a hypersport tyre in a hard use situation such as on a track bike.
Coming back off a 10 year hiatus (family sh*t) I got a 95 Suzuki Savage 650... AND it took about a week of cleaning (spare time only) to get it running and road worthy... In a week, I was on my way to the tire shop for a new set and a set of brake pads because little chips of rubber were occasionally spattering my visor... With only about 4000 miles on it, there was no reason to believe ANYTHING had been done since 1995... so... yeah. Michelin R5's for a solid economical ride going forward, and no complaints... Just figured I'd like "decent middle of the road" tire performance to get my legs back, and I'd bother research and mod's and performance probably next year, depending on how things work out... ;o)
It's 2024 now and I'm about to change tyres from 2008. Been riding them past two seasons since I bought the bike and previous owner wasn't riding much.
So the take-a-way here is if you like going fast and you are leaning into turns - and trying to remove chicken strips - then steer the course and pretend you didn't see this video? I don't know. I feel more confused now than I was 15 minutes ago, but yeah, I'm thinking I need hypersport tires. I'm looking for - what will be - my 4th set of tires and the last 2 were Diablo Rosso III's, which I love. I'm looking at Rosso IV or Michelin Road 6, but don't really want to spend $500 on a set. But I also don't think touring tires are for me. So thanks for the video and helping the motorcycle world, but eh, I don't think this video is that good. You don't need to spend 4min33sec explaining how our tires might need to be changed. And I tend to think most people are on the proper tires for their particular motorcycles. Plus, while you're talking about tires, your whole description has links to gear. So you're telling us we may be on the wrong tires, but you have no links to the right tires? Sorry, not a good video in my opinion. Not enough specifics. Felt like you sorta wasted my time. Not to be rude, just being honest.
If you daily a supersport or hypernaked I highly recommend S22 tires - 6000-8000km lifespan of aggressive street riding and great grip in all weather conditions
Thanks YN for another great vid. Had to laugh tho at the 180/70/17 rear thing at 10:06. Since I am 50 years on the street this year I was looking for how to give my bike that rear end jacked up in the air 70's look. 1976 KZ900LTD with period correct Dunlops --- 2022 Trident with stock Road 5's which are just .... inspiring. Thanks again for your great work.
If you put slicks on a bike with stock suspension 9 times out of ten the slick will give more grip than the suspension can handle if you ride real hard in my experience anyway
Very good, very funny, loved the commentary, in England we need we need a tyre that handles in the wet as it rains a lot and i mean a lot .Keep up with the good work.
Also over here in Hebrew euless area off greenbelt gets super muddy after rain and the ruts back there can be insane 😳 like my engine goes below the ground level at points lol idk if they can be considered ruts at that point😅
Thank you Yammie, people always give me hell because I run Sport Touring on my ZX6R. I ride on the road, don't do track days. I ride on the roads, and sport tires just don't last for me. This video confirmed exactly what I pretty much knew. I just put Michelin Road 6 on yesterday, so far I really love it. I ride fairly aggressive, but also just cruise. But, that Road 6 rear tire was not cheap 270, so I'm hoping to get some good mileage and performance
Yammie Fact check? I Heard a birdy say that the rear wheel rotation can and will lose air pressure with the centrifugal force releasing the pressure on the valve ? why they say its best to always have your caps on tight... Any truth to it ? Let us know...
2015 Duke 390 and i run Bridgestone battlax s21R and are 5 years old, been fantastic for my style of riding, and they are still squishy and have great grip, will be replacing soon. More from age than wear. (Its my fun bike) so not heaps of kays on them. Price point is good too.
I would say 50 miles probably isn't enough on new tires before you can put full trust in them, but 100-150 is plenty. Obviously it depends on how aggressive you get to start out. I prefer to go to a parking lot and do some slow speed tight figure 8's and get on the edge of those tires, easiest safe way to scrub off the smoothness of new tires. Although my last set of new tires I went straight to the canyons (about 60 miles away) and just started shreading on them, lol.
I got super unlucky on my XR and got a puncture 2 times on brand new tyres, ofc i'm not gonna throw them away, 1st one plugged, done 5k miles before i had to replace it due to a 2nd puncture and the fronts also being worn out, then the other one I just got it permanently patched from the inside and I've done 6.5k miles on it, including trackdays, replacing it just now.
I've got a K1300GT and have been running Avon Storms for a very long time. I've been known to get up to 12K miles on them. I do a lot of highway riding. I recently got a flat and switched to the Michelin Road Pilot 6 (it's the tire the dealer had). This will be a new experience for me.
Just bought a 1999 ducati 750ss wearing squared off rubber. Had some bridgestone battlax t32 fitted and couldn't be happier. Although at 340 gbp the pair I hope they last a little while!
the manufacturer put bad tires on my motorcycle. i hated the factory Bridgestones so i replaced them with my favorite SHINO APEX 010 tires. been using them on many bikes over the years and love them. my ZX14R handles soo much better after just swapping the tires.
Regular application of 303 protectant on your tires as well as any other rubber on your motorcycle will keep them from hardening up. It will also reduce their wear considerably. Usually about a factor of three. So if you are used to getting 10,000 miles out of your tires, you may very well see 30,000 I've seen test that support that with car tires quite a bit and I'm pretty sure you can get pretty much the same performance out of motorcycle tires.
I run Bridgestone BT-016 on my ‘77 Kz1000 Resto-Mod, I run Shinko 244’s on my Dual Sport and I run Bridgestone Exedras on my ‘06 Harley VRSCR Street Rod. All of them work excellent in the conditions that I ride in. As far as pressure goes I run what is recommended by the manufacturer on the Street Rod and Dual Sport and 35 on the Kz.
Z900RS owner. Had Roadsmart 3’s on the bike when I bought it. After suspension upgrades and switch to S22’s, I was giggly AF with how much more fun the bike was shredding in the mountain twisties! Now on Power 5’s and I’m never going back to sport touring tires on this bike again!
My last bike i bought angel gt tires and they lasted around 8 years riding a couple days a week from may to Halloween, front needs to be replaced next season back might be ok for another season or two
I recently switched (4,000 miles ago) to Dunlop Roadsmart III’s. They’re great in the rain, dual/triple compound, and look like they are going to last 8000 miles. Unfortunately, they have significantly less dry grip on the edge of the tire compared to an S22 or even a D214.
@@eyeballs97 they have less dry grip than the aforementioned tires. You can feel it when giving it gas around long sweeping corners and while doing rolling burnouts. Heck, they’ll even drift around a simple pass of a car. The rear steps out under hard acceleration every time…especially while cornering on the edges of the tire. (While at any real lean angle)
@@Vibrotronic Right, so your observation is why everyone who claims that nobody needs sport tires for the street... well, depends on what you're doing. Commuting and doing some light canyon carving you don't need them... if you're out ripping tho there's quite a difference. An S22 also isn't an extreme sport tire it's well suited to the street(they're weak track tires in fact, great street tires) they'll get 4000 miles unless you're constantly out shredding, in which case they'll do 3000 which is quite good if it's hard riding. You get all sorts of riders that want to comment on this stuff without the real world experience with either.
Hi friends do you think it is ok to use a "A" spec front tire on a CBR 600RR or a Aprilia RS 660? I have a Pirelli Angel GT "A" spec front tire (120-70-17) and was wondering if I can use this tire on one of these bikes?
@@koolopscsm3695 i pull about 6k out of S22s, and about 4k out of POWER 5s. Ive tried pilots and yes they last longer, i dont highway ride my bikes often so I find that Michelins tires have never inspired confidence in cornering for me.
I live in spain snd bought my first 125cc beginner bike,what tires should i buy?its hot weather here about 9 months of the year but december january and febuary are really cold!whats a good choice for hot and cold,mostly hot weather!and some rain lol
Use avon trailrider on my crf250L. Best option I felt for me. I mainly commute but love to fuck off on gravel roads on the weekend; no real dirt stuff. They honestly handle fine for most gravel and dirt roads. Am I ripping down them? No, they're in areas where people hike and mountain bike. Highly recommend these tires 👌
Bridgestone is the only company making tires for my bike.. makes my choice easy. They are nice sport touring tires (exedra) I hope they don't discontinue them in my size.
The incredible thing about the S22's is that it doesn't feel like they need a lot of warming up either. Having said that, I often go with pilot roads anyway for the added longevity. The Road Sixes I have on my GS now are fkin incredible.
Depends on the bike too-- I'd run road 6 on a GS but I run S22 on my sport bike. Every time I've heard the chatter of "nobody needs hypersport tires on the street" it's either coming from people who have a certain type of bike where they're not applicable or slow ass riders. I know fast GS riders that switched from adv tires to road 6 specifically for the same reason that sport guys run hypersports--- grip for that type of power and lean angle. Running those 70/30 adv tires for spirited canyon carving? No. lol. But in the same right I've run sport touring tires for canyon blasting and they don't grip like a hypersport does, which is beside the point like you noted--- an S22 or anything similar is a street sport tire and not a track tire and not anything extreme like a DOT slick and they get decent mileage-- like 65% of a sport tourer. A DOT slick is cooked in 1500 miles.
Yammie what sport touring tires do u recommend I have a 2013 zx6r and I only ride on streets no track but I do ride curves and straight line I live in Alabama and we have good back roads with a mix of curves and straight line riding I currently have s22s on my bike and I’m looking for more tire life but not wanting to sacrifice grip to much
Yams is right on the balancing side.... takes at least an hour each to do right for each wheel. WORTH the money for a computer dynamically balancer machine. And a Trained tech to do it for you too. I have spoken. Although I still do mine myself. Dont be like me. I'm a perfectionist, and own 5 bikes. There goes your life. trust me
Yammie, i cannot find any good video about the bmw f900 r against the ktm duke 890r. Those 2 bikes seem very nice but there is not even one good video on youtube about it. For me as a new rider im looking at the 900cc naked bike range and those seem perfect to grow on and have for nice amount of years. Could you make a video about it?
Look what the manufacturers are using on their high end bikes. They think it out pretty well. For example: RS11 tires hold up well on the street even on an R1 (OEM fitment), and do well on the track too. Pricing isn't too bad either. I know a lot of guys think the OEMs must "cheap out" on tire selection and therefore they must "upgrade" to something different. Today, that is most likely not the case.
Rocking the contiMotions on my fz1 right now because they were cheap AF, have very quickly found the limit of them on roads right in town by my house and am now daydreaming of a set of actual sticky rubber
Offroad Tire buyers - i live 10 miles from pavement and have a dirt driveway, i ride dirt bikes, dual sports, sport tourers, and adv bikes. If you are shopping tires for an adv bike, dont sleep on just putting sport touring tires on it. Most street biased adv tires really arent any better on dirt, gravel, or mud than a sport touring tire. Until you hit something like a tkc80, the milder knobby tires are just for looks. When my driveway is all slick with mud and snow, the drz with shinko 705s is just as slithery as the r1100rt with pilot road 4s, both bikes are also totally fine on gravel roads. Also knobby tire wear is real. A true knobby dirt rear tire will last a month or two riding a few days a week while something like a 705 will go for years with the same amount of use. If you take even something longer lasting like a tkc80 on a highway trip you will see it visibly shrink in a day.
I use Dawn to wash all the mold release off of my road 5 tires and they are good to go. By the way, those tires are hard to beat. I had over 11k miles on mine.
I rode the the tires that came with my first bike that I bought (sv650s) unaware that they where from 2013 ... My luck the mechanic instantly saw that issue and nothing happened during winter and the half year I rode that tire.
And when you're done with your slick tyres they easily get recycled to become Alex Honnald's next pair of shoes that he's going to scale some rediculously high place on without a rope or parachute.
I have a CBRxx, i drive 95% dry road and i use hypersport S21 or S22 front and Sport Touring T31 or T32 Rear..what is your opinion on this choice (mixing tyre types) ..the bike feels pretty stuck to raod ..
If you have a sport bike and want good all around tires that last for a long time just get the Michelin road 5’s
I only got 4500 miles out of my last set of road 5s, very disappointed
I have 5400 miles on my road 5's and they still look new.
I agree love the road 5 great tire have done 6000km and still heaps of tread
@@slowrider1513 that sounds like you were tracking it. If that’s the case, that’s very high mileage. Otherwise you probably either ride like you stole it or got a defective set of tires
I lost traction to a front on the street at 34psi / 35 mph without hitting the edge of the tire... not a fan.
Great video.
I will add my own experience to the tire break in myth:
My RC-51 had brand new (2014) Power 3s with about 2 miles on them. It was cold and the ground was moist. I lived on a lake with a steep driveway that transitioned right onto a highway. As soon as I pulled onto the highway and let my clutch out, the rear gave out and I found myself highsiding. Ambulance ride and a crushed quadricep later... I learned a valuable lesson that those first 50 miles are still dangerous if you don't scrub them in or respect them.
Me on the first sport bike, got nail in my brand new bike so I got it replaced, then on the way back home at fwy entrance ramp I leaned as I would usually and just slid right out😂
its an ad. this chanel is created to support a shop and boost the sales
every tire eventually becomes a slick if you ride hard enough
No long enough
Shinko 705😎😤
Well kind of, the inner rubber that is part of the cords on a car is not sticky. Bike tires also have a stronger inner liner. That S' ain't good for grip, It is like going to a brand new tire when the traction compound wears through.
@@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 makes you get used to your new break in period 😉
Except it's not the same rubber as the wearing surface
I'm just here to say thanks for all the advices in the last years! I made my decision and I'm really happy with the purchase of the Busa as my first bike. Couldn't get a better bike, it's comfy and powerfull with a lot of room to groom my skills into it.
I dont believe he ever gave the advice to go for Busa as first bike
@@enthic4532 It goes without saying
@@enthic4532 busa is for kids.. if you really wanna learn something..get a turbo busa.
@@bu11ymaguire I dont need to learn to go fast in a straght line
@@enthic4532 turbo busa is the best bike to learn how to get fast around corners.
If you want to learn something, get a turbo busa. It's the best all around bike for beginners. It really goes without saying.
My motorcycle mechanic who used to race bikes says we spend too much money on the latest tyres as most tyres, down to even budget tyres will outperform most riders, even in the wet. He recommends Bridgestone BT023's which is a 10+ year old tyre and the tyre Ron Haslam uses in his race school apparently. My Metzeler Roadtec 01's were disappointing as they squared off sooner than I was led to believe they would.
For about 90% of riders the biggest profit for using anything beyond sport touring tires is in your tire dealers pocket.
I love seeing riders show up to a meet with supercorsa’s with sides that have never been used but the centre is worn right down
@@Snakes709 and then they're like "nah bro, these tires are fresh af, just hot them 3 weeks ago"
I had two different sport touring tires on two different bikes and they couldn't even lean enough to drag knee before losing traction and sliding. Switched to hypersport tires and have plenty of grip now.
@@superbarnie - That is because you never learned to ride a bike. You lose traction in the corner. You are doing something terrible wrong. Or it’s something wrong with your bike. But most of the time, it’s the rider, not the tires or the bike, that can’t make the corners.
Glad to have your information for the Road 6 tires, thanks! I took my wheels in for a Honda dealer to inspect, mount and balance the new tires. The mechanic stated about four versions of “ride easy for at least 100 miles”. And that is exactly what I am doing. My 1300 calls for 41 pressures on both, but I’ve backed that off 2-4 pounds, like you, paying attention to variables. Reading the Michelin brochure on construction details tends to explain gripiness when leaning over into a turn, including the size of the contact patch. I am happy with the tires.
I prefer sport touring tires. Good ones provide consistent grip over a wide range of temperatures and superior grip on the wet. Currently running Metzler Roadtec 01s on the RT, but found Bridgestone T30/31 Evos to be really good, too, on my FZ-8. I don't really enjoy riding in the rain, but sometimes it can't be avoided and I want as much grip as I can get.
I had a pair of Roadtec 01 on my FZ-09 and they were excellent. I just put a pair of Michelin ROAD 6 on my 2018 Mt-09. Too new to comment on the new Michelins.
I run Rosso IV's on my FJR but they only lasted like 3 months lol
Sound advice... l have ridden the Bridgestone T30 Battlaxe on one bike and the T 31 on my current bike. Bang for the buck and performance all around their hard-to-beat tires. Unless you ride hard or track day a fair bit sport tires are a waste IMO. Sports touring tires are kinda the sweet spot for most riders I believe.
Throw some saddle bags on that busa and let the pushrod engine sing babay!
I loved my t31’s , unfortunately they have been replaced with the t32’s and they just don’t cut it like the 31’s
my FJR1300 Loves the Road5GT sport touring tires. And I love educating younger riders about how to corner correctly, by passing them.
Hayabusa rider here. I love the Shinko 777 because of the grip to the road. I run about 30-32 psi, anything near 40 psi and she’ll spin with the slightest flick of my wrist
I've had my 2005 Suzuki GSXR 750 for over 5 years and 32,000 plus miles traveled.
I tried a few different tires
Two summers ago I had pirelli angel gt2s this last summer I had the Diablo Supercorsa's
But in between I have used what has risen above all
the Michelin pilot road 5's .
I put on a fresh set just a few months ago prepared to use as soon as summer ended. The Michelin pr5s I had prior to that with regular commuting on the weekdays and a spirited ride at least twice a month on a weekend I still got 14,000 miles out of the front and 15,000 out of the rear.
Just my 2¢ opinion of a year-round Oregon rider
Same. 2CT
How do u get more miles out of the rear than the front? Im always 2 rear to 1 front ratio.
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I Wondered myself
Speculation amongst the guys at the (motorcycle) shop suggested it was because I use front brakes entering corners more than rear brakes
Plus rear tire has greater surface area
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@@killatrix5668 I'm creeping up on 8k on this set currently
I prefer a hypersport tire on my MT09 for the handling in the mountain twisties. They heat up fast in our climate (Interior BC (Canada)). I find the wear is consistent all around for my riding style. Warm up is important. Probably not as much in Texas. Trust in the corners is my first consideration.
I roamed the BC interior a lot: there aren't enough corners to keep the tires hot, even in the Lillooet to Mt. Currie stretch, the corners are too far apart. Does not really matter how fast you go, as soon as there is a small straight your tires will not be in perfect temperature before the next series of corners. You'd be better served by a sporty sport touring tire (like conti road attack or similar). Not to mention that you would also be much safer in the day the forecast is wrong and it rains on your ass on Hwy8.
ayee im from bc too, maybe youre the mt09 ive seen driving around lol
@@gnumel I don't know what you ride, and in what conditions, but my S21's have been bullet proof. Even on the edge of the tire, I've had zero slip when pulling full trotle out of any corner. My MT09 isn't the most powerful bike, but I trust my tires, and will continue using the Bridgestone hypersports I trust. I'm sure I'm not changing your mind, so you do you! Ride safe.
@@pokingfun4008 Maybe! I'm out of Kelowna! Ride safe brother!
@@noelpatenaude3584 I had a Tracer 900, so same engine, I can guarantee you that you can pull out of hairpins in second gear and full lean on a Michelin Road 5, with the added advantage that you can also be fully confident in the rain and when outside it's 3°C, and they lasted me 16000km, and I finished the front before the rear, which to me is always a great indicator of a tire that gives you a lot of confidence entering corners :)
I kept Dunlop Q3s on my 2012 CBR1000RR for YEARS. Commuting during the week, canyon-carving during the summer, and track days a couple times a year. I got tired of replacing my tires every 3k miles, so I switched to Pirelli Angel GTs, and I NEVER LOOKED BACK.
There was a small, but noticeable drop-off in turn-in responsiveness, but not enough for me to miss the Q3s. The only time I felt a difference in edge-grip was in the canyons dragging knee on a 100°+ July afternoon, in the middle of a pack of fast riders on every hypersport tire imaginable.
I do not recommend Angel GTs for trackdays if you’re an A or B-group rider. But like YammieNoob said, if you’re a street rider who is wearing out the center of your tire before the sides, you need a good sport-touring tire.
S22 would have been a better tire - Rosso IV if you prefer pirelli
@@Taste_Budzthe Rosso 4’s are amazing. I just put a pair on my 1000RR. First time I have ridden on multi compound tires. I highly suggest them.
Man, I've been looking all day for information like this. Thanks.
Soooooo, after 3 years of riding I think I was a pretty decent rider. I have no memory of it but I had a car pull out in front of me, as far as I can tell from what I was told it's not my fault the car just pulled out in front of me and I wasn't able to avoid it. Happened on the 17th of September and I'm still in the hospital fighting to keep my leg, I barely survived but thankfully the Dr's worked hard to save me and my leg. Wiped out the hospital of all their blood in the process XD
TLDR, no matter how good of a rider you are, it only takes a second of feeling over safe to let something happen.l
My MT07 came with Bridgestone Batlax sport touring tyres, wich I changed to Pirelli Diablo Rosso III. Best decision ever.
Where they T32? If so, same as my brand new 0 mile Yamaha Tracer 9 GT+.
Dark siding is popular among the long distance riders (although I don't). Contrary to popular belief, they don't affect the handling that much, they cost less than MC tires, and you can easily get 40,000 miles out of some of them.
What does that mean?
@@Michael-Masi-911 - buy one tire, instead of 5-8, that cost ten times more.
Road 5 is a great all round tyre with long life, great value in the long term. Power 5 is a road tyre that’s grippier and more responsive (fun) if you like a more sporty ride round the twisties on a Sunday thrash. It won’t last quite as long as the road, although way better than stickier tyres used to, thanks to the high silica content. Tyres have come a long way,, either tyre is great, lucky us.
running a set of conti road attack 1 on my tuono v4, the rear is cooked and lasted 3100 miles (5000km in south africa) the front will easy do
2000 miles more with the thread still on it. keen to test the M9RR next
I run pirelli angel gt2 on my vfr and they are great sport touring tires, especially for my style of everyday riding.
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Yessir! I run pirellis on my vfr as well. Great rubber
Here at YammieNoob's school for "Kid's who can't squid good."😁 Love it!
Got Bridgestone T32s on mine, so far notice almost no change performance wise from S22s, but better wet weather control. Hopefully they will also have much longer endurance as well
Just ordered a pair of t32s
i used the t32s for a year on My s1000r and it was a great tire. not that great for harder riding tho. Just switched to a conti sportattack 4. now that's a great sport tire :D
@@pieterjan81 I thought the wet and dry grip was pretty good on the t32? was looking at getting it for my vfr with full luggage and pillion, road 6 looks better for the dry but think the t32 is the longer lasting tire
Michellin Road 5's FTW for street tires on anything 600c or less. (Dont own a 1000cc so cant compare or comment) Had the Road 5's on my 04 R6 and they lasted me almost 16,000 miles and 1 track day before I saw the wear bars. I now have them on my Ninja 400 and they handle great on street and track. Amazing. Michellin did great making this tire.
Ignore his air pressure, look up your bike's manufacturer recommended tire pressure. It may show tow different air pressure setting due to the weight of the rider etc.
I resemble that last statement. I own a Harley cruiser and take the term seriously. Granted because of where I live I may cruise at 85mph for long stretches, but when I hit the twisties up in the higher elevations I tend to slow down more than most, enjoy the wind and scenery. I go for longevity and all season type tires. I may not be fast, but I will ride in sub freezing temps if the roads are dry. Of course I have grip heaters and electric gear. I may be stupid for buying an overpriced Harley, but I should get extra credit for the right gear.
"extra credit" here you go sir, you've earned this! also harleys are not that bad. we ride to be happy not set records. if a harley makes you happy then it's a good bike.
@@SoulTouchMusic93 if you buy a Harley and want to have a super fast and quick bike, you are barking up the wrong tree. You can drop a 131 stage IV in it and a X Diavel off the showroom floor will still smoke you.
@@michaelconran5252 i've meant just have fun with your bike no matter what you ride.
@@michaelconran5252 Have not seen a bike smoke, GoldZilla before (Blockheads lowrider S Stage4). And it has only 151hp/150 torque. He smoked a MT09, like it was parked. Just walked away…
@@Gismo3333 yea I doubt a Ducati X Diavel could beat a 131 😂😂😂
Hey Yammie-you squid extraordimaire! Ive got a 1981 Honda cb650 inline 4 cylinder with 31K miles on it. Not ridden for the past 22 years. Has been stored in New Mexico by the owner who lives there. Front tire is: 3.5 x 17 / Rear is: 4.5 x 15. I may need to go to a Honda motorcycle dealership for the proper xhoice of NEW tire.🏍️👍 Letting them install on the bike the new tires. Doug
I am on my second set of michelin road 5 with my fz07, and I dont think my bike can reach their limit on the street or the occasional track day. I have never felt that would give up on me. Great for spring and fall riding when its colder, or when the weather is grey and the casual riders all hide away and the leave the streets open =)
Same, I have a XSR700 and push Road5s hard and have not had any loss of traction other than dirt/gravel in road. I do run 36/42 psi though because I'm fat 😂.
Anyone who reads: Bridgestone S22 on my ZX636R '05 lasted 11k kilometers (~7k miles) and it finally met wear indicator. 70% of life was on curvy roads, from edge to edge w/out chicken strips. Gonna buy another set during winter.
@What In Da World Maybe he's saying in other words a thoroughly worn and used tire that lasted 7k miles?
@What In Da World when talking about tire wear, describing the tire wear is pretty important. A tire that lives in the corners is going to be quite different than a tire that lives in a straight line after 7k miles.
@What In Da World & @Z. Smith as @jadejajensen said, tire was thoroughly ridden, some ~1.6k km [1k miles] was on highway rest of it on curvy roads, as someone would say: knees down [fyi: Mac and Devin go to high school]
@What In Da World Yes, it do. It say that the gay don't know anything special about riding a bike. Ride a bike for 2 years, and you probably know more about bikes. Don't ever take advice from someone using the word chicken strips, seriously. It is a sure thing, they have very little knowledge who a bike work and are fare from being good rider. The person is a noob, trying to give bad advice to other noobs, so feel better about him self. People that talk seriously about "chicken strips", are bad riders… Period.
@@jadejajensen No, he just say: I don't know shit about riding a bike fast.
I'm using Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2. Grips pretty good on the road even during torrential rain of the tropical weather.
These are what I have on my 2008 K1200R. Love Them.
I picked up the Rosso 4’s. They are fantastic all around. I don’t ride in the rain, so I can’t say anything there. They are great in the mountains.
Michelin Road 5's best ez clap no brainer.
For the road....if you get a little gravel road in between it's going to be twitchie as fuck... but yeah, i have those on my bike...✌
Exactly what I run on my BMW. The tires it used to have were all over the place on the freeway groves. The Road Pilot 5's are the best for me
I am running pilot road 4 now on 2007 FJR1300. Would the Road 5's be a good replacement. Front is still good. Back needs replacement ( of course). Will it be a good match or should I source out a new Road 4. I'm pretty happy with those Michelins.
@@bobcaygeon4533 Road 5 is a whole new family of product. You can get away with mixing Road 5s, Power 5s, Power GPs, and tyres from that family but the Road 4 has completely different carcass structure, different thread pattern and different shape. Depending on front tyre life i'd just fork out for the Road 5s, front tyres are cheaper anyway.
Rosso 3s unlimited grip in the warmer months though
Correction...rear standard size 180/55 /17.
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Love Michelins of all kinds, but due to a great deal I picked up Dunlop Roadsmart 3s. 3,000+ miles and they still look new. But, I don't ride crazy and check pressure often
2005 bmw f650gs. Shinko 705 tires. Cheap and fantastic for the twisties and the forest service roads here in western nc mountains.
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Okay, I give up, I'll sub. Yeah, I know, I should have sooner, given how many of these videos I watch, there's no good excuse. Still, I feel like the vid quality (and writing especially) is on the upswing again lately so I wanna throw my money in the hat or whatever. Keep it up!
I'm exactly like this
Turbo busa !!!
I put some Diablo Rosso III on my rc 390 and don't feel like they're overkill, Pirelli be doin miracles on your motorcycle
I have a rc 390 too and my tires have strips all the way at the end cause previous rider did track days should i change tires?
@@Spartan13579 if they've reached the wear marks or the bike feels funny or even starts wobbling then yes..you should change them asap. The bike will feel so much different in a good way
@@alexplosceac553 How do i determine if i have reached the wear mark?
@@Spartan13579 do you know what a wear indicator is?if you look at your tread there will be Lil lines running thru them, if the tread is flush with that line then it's time to replace.Good luck,ride safe and stay upright!🤙
@@TheS197King oh okay, no i didnt know what it was, my first bike
Getting ready to retire my 2001 FZ1. I had metzler on before. I live on an island in alaska and will be going to Washington together new rubber. Any current tire tips for a metzler fan?
There is absolutely NO REASON to replace a tyre that is 3 years old if it is otherwise in good condition. If you said 10+ years old, then maybe
in Germany the recommended time is 5 years.. but storage of the Tires play a huge part here. You can use them longer or shorter depending on the conditions. Garage only is different than sun exposed.
@@eQui253 Absolutely. It also depends on the individual tyre and use case. For example, a hard touring tyre on a cruiser that isn't pushed will be safe to use for longer than a hypersport tyre in a hard use situation such as on a track bike.
Coming back off a 10 year hiatus (family sh*t) I got a 95 Suzuki Savage 650... AND it took about a week of cleaning (spare time only) to get it running and road worthy... In a week, I was on my way to the tire shop for a new set and a set of brake pads because little chips of rubber were occasionally spattering my visor...
With only about 4000 miles on it, there was no reason to believe ANYTHING had been done since 1995... so... yeah. Michelin R5's for a solid economical ride going forward, and no complaints... Just figured I'd like "decent middle of the road" tire performance to get my legs back, and I'd bother research and mod's and performance probably next year, depending on how things work out... ;o)
It's 2024 now and I'm about to change tyres from 2008. Been riding them past two seasons since I bought the bike and previous owner wasn't riding much.
So the take-a-way here is if you like going fast and you are leaning into turns - and trying to remove chicken strips - then steer the course and pretend you didn't see this video? I don't know. I feel more confused now than I was 15 minutes ago, but yeah, I'm thinking I need hypersport tires. I'm looking for - what will be - my 4th set of tires and the last 2 were Diablo Rosso III's, which I love. I'm looking at Rosso IV or Michelin Road 6, but don't really want to spend $500 on a set. But I also don't think touring tires are for me.
So thanks for the video and helping the motorcycle world, but eh, I don't think this video is that good. You don't need to spend 4min33sec explaining how our tires might need to be changed. And I tend to think most people are on the proper tires for their particular motorcycles. Plus, while you're talking about tires, your whole description has links to gear. So you're telling us we may be on the wrong tires, but you have no links to the right tires? Sorry, not a good video in my opinion. Not enough specifics. Felt like you sorta wasted my time. Not to be rude, just being honest.
I got M Road 5, no complaints at all.
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If you daily a supersport or hypernaked I highly recommend S22 tires - 6000-8000km lifespan of aggressive street riding and great grip in all weather conditions
How do u feel about dunlop gpr 300 on a drz 400 sm. Aggressive windy roads and wheelie practice.
Thanks YN for another great vid. Had to laugh tho at the 180/70/17 rear thing at 10:06. Since I am 50 years on the street this year I was looking for how to give my bike that rear end jacked up in the air 70's look. 1976 KZ900LTD with period correct Dunlops --- 2022 Trident with stock Road 5's which are just .... inspiring. Thanks again for your great work.
If you put slicks on a bike with stock suspension 9 times out of ten the slick will give more grip than the suspension can handle if you ride real hard in my experience anyway
Very good, very funny, loved the commentary, in England we need we need a tyre that handles in the wet as it rains a lot and i mean a lot .Keep up with the good work.
Michelin road 5 best for uk good in wet and in temperate temp if hot and dry weather pirelli Corsa nice n sticky
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Also over here in Hebrew euless area off greenbelt gets super muddy after rain and the ruts back there can be insane 😳 like my engine goes below the ground level at points lol idk if they can be considered ruts at that point😅
Thank you Yammie, people always give me hell because I run Sport Touring on my ZX6R. I ride on the road, don't do track days. I ride on the roads, and sport tires just don't last for me. This video confirmed exactly what I pretty much knew. I just put Michelin Road 6 on yesterday, so far I really love it. I ride fairly aggressive, but also just cruise. But, that Road 6 rear tire was not cheap 270, so I'm hoping to get some good mileage and performance
outstanding tire!
Hey man, 1 year later was it worth it?
@@36shadowboy My Road 6 rear lasts around 8k-10k miles depending on riding style, passenger/cargo, and more.
Road 6. What is the verdict two years later?
Yammie Fact check? I Heard a birdy say that the rear wheel rotation can and will lose air pressure with the centrifugal force releasing the pressure on the valve ? why they say its best to always have your caps on tight... Any truth to it ? Let us know...
Question? Should I replace my tire if I got a nail thru it or just plug it , patch it ? Tires are brand new not even 300miles on them 🤦🏽♂️
2015 Duke 390 and i run Bridgestone battlax s21R and are 5 years old, been fantastic for my style of riding, and they are still squishy and have great grip, will be replacing soon. More from age than wear. (Its my fun bike) so not heaps of kays on them. Price point is good too.
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I would say 50 miles probably isn't enough on new tires before you can put full trust in them, but 100-150 is plenty. Obviously it depends on how aggressive you get to start out. I prefer to go to a parking lot and do some slow speed tight figure 8's and get on the edge of those tires, easiest safe way to scrub off the smoothness of new tires. Although my last set of new tires I went straight to the canyons (about 60 miles away) and just started shreading on them, lol.
Funny, I run 34/34 as well. I run plugs for hundreds of miles until I get around to replacing. I don't stress it.
Running on plugs really depends on how hard you are riding
I got super unlucky on my XR and got a puncture 2 times on brand new tyres, ofc i'm not gonna throw them away, 1st one plugged, done 5k miles before i had to replace it due to a 2nd puncture and the fronts also being worn out, then the other one I just got it permanently patched from the inside and I've done 6.5k miles on it, including trackdays, replacing it just now.
I run Michelin power 5’s on my mt10 and love them! Street rider here
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Got a Metzeler R01 SE on my 2010 Speedy 1050. Perfection.
I've got a K1300GT and have been running Avon Storms for a very long time. I've been known to get up to 12K miles on them. I do a lot of highway riding. I recently got a flat and switched to the Michelin Road Pilot 6 (it's the tire the dealer had). This will be a new experience for me.
How do you like the tires on your Hayabusa ? I’m 73 gust picked up my 2022 Hayabusa 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍👍
Just bought a 1999 ducati 750ss wearing squared off rubber. Had some bridgestone battlax t32 fitted and couldn't be happier. Although at 340 gbp the pair I hope they last a little while!
the manufacturer put bad tires on my motorcycle. i hated the factory Bridgestones so i replaced them with my favorite SHINO APEX 010 tires. been using them on many bikes over the years and love them. my ZX14R handles soo much better after just swapping the tires.
Regular application of 303 protectant on your tires as well as any other rubber on your motorcycle will keep them from hardening up. It will also reduce their wear considerably. Usually about a factor of three. So if you are used to getting 10,000 miles out of your tires, you may very well see 30,000 I've seen test that support that with car tires quite a bit and I'm pretty sure you can get pretty much the same performance out of motorcycle tires.
You sure about that? 303 is great and all, it’s slicker than snot. I wouldn’t use that stuff near my bike.
Awesome tutorial, learned a lot while laughing my ass off at all your analogies that gave great perspective. keep it up guys, great work!!
I run Bridgestone BT-016 on my ‘77 Kz1000 Resto-Mod, I run Shinko 244’s on my Dual Sport and I run Bridgestone Exedras on my ‘06 Harley VRSCR Street Rod. All of them work excellent in the conditions that I ride in. As far as pressure goes I run what is recommended by the manufacturer on the Street Rod and Dual Sport and 35 on the Kz.
Ahaha, at 8:25 it's a video from a track day in israel by Isovich 😛 That was really refreshing and surprising to see in the Yammi's video :))
Everyone of my tires are losing rubber in dead center what could be wrong I've had air checked but every tire has done it cbr 1000 2022
We love you Noob. Great Job.
Z900RS owner. Had Roadsmart 3’s on the bike when I bought it. After suspension upgrades and switch to S22’s, I was giggly AF with how much more fun the bike was shredding in the mountain twisties! Now on Power 5’s and I’m never going back to sport touring tires on this bike again!
Finally got back into riding after a 10 year layoff after injury.
Glad you're back on a bike again. :)
My last bike i bought angel gt tires and they lasted around 8 years riding a couple days a week from may to Halloween, front needs to be replaced next season back might be ok for another season or two
How long to get the flat spot? A couple months or 6 months of storage?
I recently switched (4,000 miles ago) to Dunlop Roadsmart III’s. They’re great in the rain, dual/triple compound, and look like they are going to last 8000 miles.
Unfortunately, they have significantly less dry grip on the edge of the tire compared to an S22 or even a D214.
May i just ask how you have noticed that they have less grip on the sides? Have you low-sided with them? Or how have you felt it
@@eyeballs97 they have less dry grip than the aforementioned tires. You can feel it when giving it gas around long sweeping corners and while doing rolling burnouts. Heck, they’ll even drift around a simple pass of a car. The rear steps out under hard acceleration every time…especially while cornering on the edges of the tire. (While at any real lean angle)
@@Vibrotronic Right, so your observation is why everyone who claims that nobody needs sport tires for the street... well, depends on what you're doing. Commuting and doing some light canyon carving you don't need them... if you're out ripping tho there's quite a difference. An S22 also isn't an extreme sport tire it's well suited to the street(they're weak track tires in fact, great street tires) they'll get 4000 miles unless you're constantly out shredding, in which case they'll do 3000 which is quite good if it's hard riding.
You get all sorts of riders that want to comment on this stuff without the real world experience with either.
Sport tyres are perfect for most people, hypersport for aggresive riders, semislicks for track and slicks for professional track riders
Hi friends do you think it is ok to use a "A" spec front tire on a CBR 600RR or a Aprilia RS 660? I have a Pirelli Angel GT "A" spec front tire (120-70-17) and was wondering if I can use this tire on one of these bikes?
Fr, the best street tires are Bridgestone S22's. Michelin Power 5s just cant cut it and dont last as long.
Have u tried the pilot 5s? I'm on 4k miles n still got 50% life left..
I only got 4k out if my B22 I went to M 5 and currently have 11k on them and probably 3k left .. but it's your money..
@@koolopscsm3695 i pull about 6k out of S22s, and about 4k out of POWER 5s. Ive tried pilots and yes they last longer, i dont highway ride my bikes often so I find that Michelins tires have never inspired confidence in cornering for me.
I ordered bridgestone bt46 for my yamaha r3. I don't know I'm making the right choice or na
I live in spain snd bought my first 125cc beginner bike,what tires should i buy?its hot weather here about 9 months of the year but december january and febuary are really cold!whats a good choice for hot and cold,mostly hot weather!and some rain lol
My tire melt on side. I heard it can get lost tractions if overhest. On 300cc
Use avon trailrider on my crf250L. Best option I felt for me. I mainly commute but love to fuck off on gravel roads on the weekend; no real dirt stuff. They honestly handle fine for most gravel and dirt roads. Am I ripping down them? No, they're in areas where people hike and mountain bike. Highly recommend these tires 👌
Bridgestone is the only company making tires for my bike.. makes my choice easy. They are nice sport touring tires (exedra) I hope they don't discontinue them in my size.
Are the Michelin road 6 good for ninja 400? Plz help 🙏
The incredible thing about the S22's is that it doesn't feel like they need a lot of warming up either. Having said that, I often go with pilot roads anyway for the added longevity. The Road Sixes I have on my GS now are fkin incredible.
Depends on the bike too-- I'd run road 6 on a GS but I run S22 on my sport bike. Every time I've heard the chatter of "nobody needs hypersport tires on the street" it's either coming from people who have a certain type of bike where they're not applicable or slow ass riders. I know fast GS riders that switched from adv tires to road 6 specifically for the same reason that sport guys run hypersports--- grip for that type of power and lean angle. Running those 70/30 adv tires for spirited canyon carving? No. lol.
But in the same right I've run sport touring tires for canyon blasting and they don't grip like a hypersport does, which is beside the point like you noted--- an S22 or anything similar is a street sport tire and not a track tire and not anything extreme like a DOT slick and they get decent mileage-- like 65% of a sport tourer. A DOT slick is cooked in 1500 miles.
I just swapped my 2k kms S22 for Diablo IV and I am never going back to Bridgestones.
Yammie what sport touring tires do u recommend I have a 2013 zx6r and I only ride on streets no track but I do ride curves and straight line I live in Alabama and we have good back roads with a mix of curves and straight line riding I currently have s22s on my bike and I’m looking for more tire life but not wanting to sacrifice grip to much
Yams is right on the balancing side.... takes at least an hour each to do right for each wheel. WORTH the money for a computer dynamically balancer machine. And a Trained tech to do it for you too. I have spoken. Although I still do mine myself. Dont be like me. I'm a perfectionist, and own 5 bikes. There goes your life. trust me
I bet you do it way to perfect. The experts/pro don't do it that perfect. Because it don't have to be. At least when riding normal speed on the road.
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I've balanced all my tires myself using a static balancer and knock on wood, zero vibration at up to 164 mph...
I got a flat on my street triple 765. Tires were about 3 years old. should I replace both front and rear?
I care about ADV tires! (On my T7). Also, I'm looking for a sport touring set to go along with the 50/50's
I have used all the dunlop qualifiers 1,2,and 3. On my bike curently are dunlop sportsmax 2 and they feel just as sticky. Bike is a 2004 cbr600f4i .
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Yammie, i cannot find any good video about the bmw f900 r against the ktm duke 890r. Those 2 bikes seem very nice but there is not even one good video on youtube about it. For me as a new rider im looking at the 900cc naked bike range and those seem perfect to grow on and have for nice amount of years. Could you make a video about it?
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I just put heikendau k60 adv tires on my goldwing, so far liking them a lot
Look what the manufacturers are using on their high end bikes. They think it out pretty well. For example: RS11 tires hold up well on the street even on an R1 (OEM fitment), and do well on the track too. Pricing isn't too bad either. I know a lot of guys think the OEMs must "cheap out" on tire selection and therefore they must "upgrade" to something different. Today, that is most likely not the case.
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Rocking the contiMotions on my fz1 right now because they were cheap AF, have very quickly found the limit of them on roads right in town by my house and am now daydreaming of a set of actual sticky rubber
Offroad Tire buyers - i live 10 miles from pavement and have a dirt driveway, i ride dirt bikes, dual sports, sport tourers, and adv bikes. If you are shopping tires for an adv bike, dont sleep on just putting sport touring tires on it.
Most street biased adv tires really arent any better on dirt, gravel, or mud than a sport touring tire. Until you hit something like a tkc80, the milder knobby tires are just for looks.
When my driveway is all slick with mud and snow, the drz with shinko 705s is just as slithery as the r1100rt with pilot road 4s, both bikes are also totally fine on gravel roads.
Also knobby tire wear is real. A true knobby dirt rear tire will last a month or two riding a few days a week while something like a 705 will go for years with the same amount of use. If you take even something longer lasting like a tkc80 on a highway trip you will see it visibly shrink in a day.
Hi Yam, I have a cfmoto300sr, but the road that I tackle is a mix of city and offroad, will sport touring be able to handle it?
Run road 5’s on my z900. Trust 👍🏻
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I use Dawn to wash all the mold release off of my road 5 tires and they are good to go. By the way, those tires are hard to beat. I had over 11k miles on mine.
I rode the the tires that came with my first bike that I bought (sv650s) unaware that they where from 2013 ...
My luck the mechanic instantly saw that issue and nothing happened during winter and the half year I rode that tire.
what you think about michelin road 6 on yamaha mt09 sp 2021?
Michelin Road 6 tires are pretty mint 👌
Gotta put dual sport tires on my xsr900 cuz everybody got mile+ long dirt/gravel driveways
I’m so glad I got the tools to change my own tires. Use a ton of lube and let the tires bake in the sun and it’s not a bad job to take on
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And when you're done with your slick tyres they easily get recycled to become Alex Honnald's next pair of shoes that he's going to scale some rediculously high place on without a rope or parachute.
Metzeler Roadtec 01 are perfect for me, my use and my S1000xr, all year round commute, 15k miles per year in rain and cold around Brussels.
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I have a CBRxx, i drive 95% dry road and i use hypersport S21 or S22 front and Sport Touring T31 or T32 Rear..what is your opinion on this choice (mixing tyre types)
..the bike feels pretty stuck to raod ..