Doodle my wife is 4'10.5" and picked the Rebel 300 ABS strictly for the shorter seat height and the lighter weight. This is her first bike at 50+ years old and was motivated by your videos. Thank you for doing what I have been unable to do and that is motivating her to ride a motorcycle.
A good friend of mine who is also sub-5-foot just picked up a Rebel, same reason. I didn't even know she was interested but she just surprised everyone. I told her it was a fantastic choice, especially since it's super low miles, looks showroom, and she got it for almost nothing.
CL500 rider here. I love the simplicity of the bike and just enjoying the ride. Had a ninja back in the day and most of the focus was just on going fast and I missed the whole ride. Crashed it trying to keep up with riders who were above my skill level on twice the displacement bikes and now I just wanted a no-nonsense bike that I can just enjoy the ride itself and I love it. You meet the nicest people on a Honda :)
I feel like naked bikes are quite good for a first ride. Mine was naked and it lets you know exactly how fast you're really traveling at any given time by not shielding you from the wind. I believe some new riders need that reality check.
Personally I feel you are right to some degree. I however have gone far faster than "most" people would ever dare to and the fairings and sport screens when you are tucked nearly eliminates that until you break like 180. I noticed when I sat up @ 185 my speed dropped crazily fast kinda like an aircraft air brake. Fun times but I been riding since 1978, and my first 2 bikes were naked. Didn't stop me from reaching full acceleration but 130 is nowhere near 180+.
I got the Eliminator in August of '23 and love it so much! I added a windshield, a luggage rack and top case, and soft pannier support. I only use the panniers when I go camping. So far I've put 6800+ miles on it, mostly commuting to work from Rutherford County, NC to Charlotte - around 65 miles one way. I also just rode it to Shenandoa via the BRP in early September and learned some HARD lessons. I've been riding for 14 months and this was my first long distance trip. I made the trip in two 8 hour stints and one overnight. It was utterly painful. Coming back, I broke it into 2 overnights with 4-5 hours of riding per day and it was much nicer. I understand why touring bikes are so big. The bike isn't intended for that kind of riding but it did it like a champ loaded with 50-60lbs of gear and got around 60-62mpg. I really hope to pick up a Versys in the next year or 2, keeping the Eliminator for shorter rides on back country roads and around town. I'm 5'1" with a 28" inseam and can't flatfoot, but the balls of my feet are solidly on the ground. I have considered getting the taller seat so I can start shifting to one side or the other to have one foot down at a time for when I get the Versys.
Regarding Kawasaki's approach to gauges, your observations really resonate with me. One of the things I really love about my Z900RS is the dual analog gauges for tach and speed. There's a small concession for fuel and temperature gauges (a very barebones LCD), but it gives you only what you really need and nothing else. I haven't ever found myself wanting to fiddle with screens while riding, simply because there's nothing to fiddle with. I think for newer riders that's really important-- your focus should be up and out, not down at a dash.
Going with CFMoto 450 CL-C. Yeah its Chinese, but it looks a lot better than both the Rebel and eliminator to me. And, i really like the tech being on it that both Rebel and Eliminator don't have. Motorcycle brands Ignore CFMoto at your own peril. More for less!
@@ibewscott69 I like that 450 CL-C too and it has more the looks of the Eliminator. The japanese brands hold a very long history of reliability. CFMoto is still like a new brand. In 15 or more years, we'll see if the CFMoto bikes hold what its brand promised its users to be. Only then people will full heartedly trust it.
Loved... Past tense. So you don't own it anymore? Just how much can you love something if you then give up on it? I love my original model SV650 and still do 24 years later. I'll never get rid of it unless it becomes unrepairable. It's never let me down yet btw.
The thing is, that everybody, including me thought that Eliminator is cruiser. I own Vulcan s650 cafe and the other day i went to dealreship to have some check on it, and they offered me a test ride on Eliminator. I asked, why even bothering creating Eliminator 500 while having already Vulcan S 650 on the market. The dealer told me that i should check it out myself and oh boy! That was a lot of fun. Nimble, swift, great for thight maneuvers. Nothing, literally nothing like cruiser. It felt more like a naked bike and it was awesome!
"Cafe" is not a class of motorcycle; it's a style. And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike.
The "S" in Vulcan S makes all the difference. Vulcan S is a naked bike that identifies as a cruiser (and marketed as such). The differently tuned engine is still the z650 engine at its heart, it's happy around 6-8k rpm, you can hear it sing. It's light enough to be fun, and if I have had a little too much fun I can bring it back upright just by the handlebars, no need to "walk it back". We chose it over the rebel for my wife when she just started riding, she likes it, and I steal it every now and then. Oh, and "cafe" is one of 3 trims for Vulcan S, after "base" and "abs". Weirdly, the more expensive "cafe" does not have ABS, but it has a bit more fancy paint scheme instead...
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@@Marsh.x _And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike._ That depends on what's meant by "cruiser". It's only a cruiser in that it's not a sport bike or adventure bike or a dirt bike, in other words in the most general sense. But in the sense they mean by saying it's not a cruiser, they mean that it's lighter and smaller, it's not a larger, and in general a larger engined motorcycle, such as most of the Harleys. You are being nitpicky.
6500 miles on my Eliminator. Absolutely love it. Commute 20 miles one way daily. Half on twisty FM hiway roads and half in town. Perfect for both. Comfy, quick, nimble. Light but firmly grounded. Added a tail bag. 500 miles in 24 hours with no sore back,butt or hands
Being 70 years old and ridden for many years, I have an 24 Eliminator 400. I live in Thailand and this bike is plenty big enough for here. I have owned 700cc, 1400cc Intruders, Kawasaki 900cc Ninja and started out on a Honda CB550, CB750F and V4 750F. I will say that my Eliminator is one of the funnest bikes I have owned. It will make me the best last bike that I own!
I didn't buy the Honda Rebel, I instead bought a 2024 Kawasaki Z900RS SE, which I have not regretted. It is easy to ride, I sit relaxed in the saddle and it is well built. Never again a touring bike from Honda or Harley. Cheaper purchases, insurance, road tax and inspection. Ideal to go to work with as it can also fit under cover in the scooter/motorcycle garage. Sleek and useful in an urban environment, and yes, I get it, you're short and I'm tall, hence my choice. But after 6 months of ownership, I have only positive things to say about this bike. Just need to put on a Corbinsadel, and a Dash-cam then I'll probably be satisfied.
I own the Rebel 1100. Such a good bike. Fits me, being a shorter sized Female. The 1100 provide enough power for me. I also own an old school RE Himalayan 411 to fit my other needs when going on gravel roads. Tried the Kawasaki Vulcan S but this felt too small for me compared to my then so dearly missed Kawasaki ’Old School)’ VN 800.
I have a Harley Street Bob for my longer rides, but I have held on to my 2000 Vulcan 800 Classic that still looks and runs good as new, and I love riding that bike over the Harley most of the time.
The Rebel 500 absolutely rips. That 500cc engine is truly amazing. 50 HP. However the Kawasaki is also a cool bike. You really can't go wrong with either bike.
@ yeah the 1100 rebel DCT is a really nice bike. I really enjoy it. I really enjoy riding it. I may put some forward foot controls if my son doesn’t end up riding it, but I hope he does. I want to start riding with me.
at 62yo with bad knee's , I be looking at this model in spring 2025, I have the Hunter 350 disappointed at top speed only 74-75 here in Tx to slow in most case's engine feels like its working to hard
A 600 Honda Shadow is a great starter bike. I had a 94 and rode it to Sturgis, about 900 miles from where I live. Never had to touch the engine, clutch, or carb. Sold it with 85.000 miles on it. Still ran perfect.
My first bike was a 100cc 72 Kawasaki G4. As many teens in the 70s, we grew up wanting to be moto X stars. We spent as much time off road as possible. We fell a lot. We learned to use front brakes without washing out. This is extremely important. We learned to tuck and roll when we went down. We learned to do our own repairs. We learned in a much safer environment than on asphalt. We lost a few friends along the way which taught is to respect our bikes. I highly recommend beginners get a small off road bike before venturing into traffic. The things you learn may save your life. This is even more true today due to all the distracted drivers on the road. Stay safe and keep your head on a swivel. You never know which car plans to run you over.
As a beginner rider who just started riding motorcycles in my late 40s, I have found your channel to be informative and indispensable for beginner riders. Please do a video on the types of tire patterns for rainy and wet conditions for daily use, especially for hotter climates.
I'm biased but I love my Honda Rebel 500. I got a limited edition color that only came on the 2017's so its a lot more unique than the others on the market. I'm 5'0" with a 28" inseam so the seat on the Rebel made it an easy choice. I actually put a windscreen on the Rebel but took it off just a few months later because I didn't like how the wind deflected. I'm a beginner to the streets but I've been riding for a few years. The Rebel 500 is the perfect size to get up and go, or cruise the freeway, though sometimes I wish it had just a *touch* more power. Great video, Doodle!
Great video !!! enjoy all your videos. I started with the honda Rebel 500 and it was such an amazing bike. You said something that I experienced, no one told me about how important a windscreen or fairing is for long trips. Going out with my friends, I was getting wrecked by the wind so hard, oh and the small tank had me be the one stopping all the time for gas. lol. My next bike had a fairing to protect from the wind. I always share that with new riders who want bikes with no wind protection.
And everyone still forgets the v-twin cruiser Vstar 250, which retails for 4700-5400. Top speed 84mph, 5-speed manual gearbox, 249cc engine, and gets up to 78mpg. Similarly sized to the sportster 883 and Indian scout, handles easily and very confidence inspiring, with a 25" seat height. Weighs in at 330lbs Similar styling to the pre-2016 hknda rebels, as well as the Suzuki GS250. Only downside to the vstar 250 is the fact that, like the older rebels and the gs250, there's no aftermarket accessories for direct fitment such as bags and windshields.
One downside is that as the engine is 249cc. Many interstates are posted that that motorcycles under 250cc are prohibited, while I have never heard of someone on a "nominal 250" which is actually a few ccs smaller being pulled over, an a-hole cop could.
My gf loves the bike, still pretty new to ridding, but she can drive her way around the bike, she she's like 5'0 '1ish haha still working to develop her core and leg strenght really good for ridding and helps to control the bike a lot! Love the vid!
As much as I was impressed with this bike, I really an glad I went with the Vulcan S. All of my bigger on-road bikes have been middleweight motorcycles; 600 cc and upwards displacement. You are right about the windscreen. Most of my commute last year was at slower speeds but at a larger distance from the job, I have to be on high speed roads to get there in the morning starting this season. 60+ almost all of the way. I added a Puig Naked New Generation touring (higher) windscreen. It made a big difference in comfort at high speed cruising. I have a few different tank bags and a backpack. I prefer using the tank bag most of the time. Like most cruisers, there's a nice flat surface for the magnets to stick to. I don't use the collar ring connector type. Thanks for your outlook. That's why I subscribed.
@BobTaylorCruising i had an option between the vulcan s and rebel and I went with the vulcan without question. I actually really enjoyed the eco fit that they provide. The bike i got was used but with all the extra bells and whistles like detachable windscreen was really what sold it for me. Been only riding for 6 months but I got used to riding her quick. I know I'm going to keep my vulcan for a lot longer before my next bike because of how much more versatile it is, and compatible with my lifestyle.
Yeah, the Vulcan S wins over the Eliminator for a number of reasons. Biggest one is comfort with legs forward. 2nd is more power for dodging idiots in their 4wheelers. (retired semi driver)
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle The two bikes have similarities. Both are cruiser layouts in being long with a low seat. The Eliminator has mid foot controls and the Vulcan S has forward foot controls. You've ridden plenty of cruisers so the layout should be familiar. The Vulcan produces more power and torque as its a higher displacement machine. The Vulcan S weighs more at a minimum of 492 lbs. fully provisioned. Both use parallel twin, 180 degree crank engines as made back in the 1960's on but liquid cooled and with fuel injection. The Vulcan S has an analogue tachometer with a very simple monochrome LCD display, There is a fuel gauge and two trip meters on both. Riding the bike surprised me. I've made some extreme corners on the Vulcan without dragging pegs or other bits on the road. Handing is lighter than typical for a cruiser and curvy roads are more fun than I expected. It's not a bad bike for new riders mostly because it's very easy to ride. It's stable at high speeds and heavy enough to feel planted on interstates. Handling is good and the supplied tires, sport touring tires, are a good choice for the bike. I think that Kawasaki was aiming at both newer riders and older guys like me. It makes a fine commuter bike and a decent short trip motorcycle. It's a fine cruiser. It excels at day trips and just bopping around. I use mine to find new county roads I've never been on. My wife tolerates it as a "hobby". Life is good!
Love the Rebel 1100, for a different reason than most probably. Since my left ankle is nearly immobile, the Honda DCT bikes give me the opportunity to ride again. Since they're the only major company that made it possible, I'll be staying with Honda, even if other companies start making models with DCT as well.
Honestly I'd take the RE Hunter, it's an absolutely adorable and fun bike. I already have two bikes but I still sorta want a Hunter. But I have zero interests in cruisers, having owned one they're super uncomfortable to me.
Buy the Honda Rebel. But the timeless old Classic version of the Honda Rebel... years 1985-1987, 1996-1997, 1999-2016 not whatever stuff this new junk is with the Honda Rebel name on it. Probably an okay bike in its own right, but it should have gotten it's own name, and not k.o.ed an iconic legend. I paid 500 bucks for my 1985 Rebel back around 2004, restored it, and it made me fall in love with motorcycling mainly for the 60mpg. I still have it 20 years later and it still runs and is a blast to drive. Light, flicable, fun, cheap, easy to work on and maintain. Not fun on the interstate or in a city, so you move on to bigger, heavier bikes which are nowhere near fun to drive.
I wanted a Honda Rebel for 15 years and I’m finally able to get into motorcycling and I changed my mind. Getting an Eliminator tomorrow! I’m so excited 😁😁
My son is a new rider he was going to get a 2024 rebel 500 for his first bike but I suggested getting a bigger cc so he got a 2024 shadow aero 750 he has been endorsed since June and is already talking about a bigger cc bike I ride a old Vulcan 900 custom that I’ve owned since new in 07 and I love big blue and keep up the good work doodle. Love your channel.👍
I’ve owned my 24 eliminator SE Abs for a little under a year and as a newer rider I love this little light weight bike. Not gonna lie it was a toss up for me between the rebel and the eliminator and I went with the kawi because of the color
I had a Honda Rebel 500 for three years and I really liked it. Great bike and easy to ride. However, the seat height was a bit too low for me (I'm 1.81m) and I also discovered that going off-road can be a lot of fun, so I changed it for one of the last old model Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 which was still for sale. I'm super happy with the Royal Enfield. Once I sat on a Kawasaki Eliminator and it felt very similar to the Rebel. It felt like it had a slightly higher seat height as the Rebel but not very much.
I have just purchased a Honda Fury after you Americans sang its praises I've had a savage and a 1400 intruder and now I have the love of my life. The Fury is incredible ❤❤❤ I love it
Looks wise The Eliminator all day long. for 500cc or less, Again I will take the Kawasaki. The Eliminator looks and makes you think you are on a bigger bike, but without the weight of a bigger bike. the Rebel just looks awkward.
@@ibewscott69 CFMoto 450 CL-C is the nicest one of its class. I was blown away when I first saw it. I never reacted that way for the others when they were first released.
Finally you mention your old Suzuki Boulevard S40! Do you miss it at all? I just got one and am really enjoying the bike. Great price and good power. Louder than I would like but the price and simplicity of the bike is awesome. Thanks for the entertaining vids
I was planning on buying a Rebel 500 for my first bike, but happened across a slightly used Eliminator for a great deal. I am loving it, and plan to keep it as a commuter/in town bike I upgrade to a bigger bike.
I just got a Kawasaki eliminator 500/450 and love it. I've always wanted a Honda Rebel but I ended up getting this! My first mods were exactly those you mentioned too. Windshield and saddlebags/rear bag. And an exhaust and tail tidy of course.
Same with me, i was always looking at the rebel for a long time until the time i can buy a bike, and then thats exactly the time eliminator was released on my country , i tested both bikes, but even when i saw the eliminator at first, i already know its what im going to buy. It feels more bigger, and also the mods u want forntge rebel are already in the elim se.. and with lower overall price... So yeah kawasaki wins for me
I'm gonna show my newness here, but I still think, at least for a big person that doesn't want to win drags and highway sprints, that the C50T is the best beginner bike. I'm 6' and 300 pounds. I've sat on a Rebel, Bolt, Vulcan, Shadow, a Fury, a couple Scouts and a few HDs.....nothing felt as comfortable as my 2012 Boulevard. Once I got the handlebars dialed up, the rear brake pedal dropped down a little bit, my fears started vanishing. In two months of riding, I've done a charity ride, a day trip from South Jersey to Newark, and a two hour ride to go see a friend in Leola PA. And with few exceptions, my boulevard stood strong with me. To me, the C50T is a Warhorse. Yeah, it's big, it's heavy, and it will make you TELL it what to do....but it will also do what you say. I'm not fighting wind, I'm not fighting fidgetiness or flick. You take a Racehorse of a sport bike, whiskey throttle just a little too much, and your rear is eating pavement. I was about to quit my MSF course instruction, before they pulled me off the KTM sport I was on, and put me on a saner DS. I envied the guy on the Rebel with Forward foot controls.
I own a Honda Rebel 1100T, and I must say that it’s been the best riding experience for me so far. I did sit on the Eliminator, but decided to purchase the Rebel for its power, seating height and features. That being said, the Eliminator is a great option as well, and I don’t think folks will be disappointed.
im going with the CFMoto 450 CL-C. I like the looks of it better. Plus it has a tft screen i can see better. Oh and the screen is not off center like on the eliminator. That would mess with my OCD so bad.
I recently bought a Honda Rebel 500 as my first bike and I couldn’t be more happy. Very convenient, easy to handle and absolutely gorgeous. Imo it looks more premium compared to the Eliminator and more like a cruiser as well. And the Honda Rebel community is just amazing. ❤
I’m definitely a fan and I have enjoyed watching you grow and become more experienced, especially as a former successful RUclips content creator and successful channel provider I enjoy your videos. This was a great video but you could have talked about the Honda Rebel a little better. I own a 2023 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT with a front fairing and hard saddle bags stock from Honda factory. It’s an awesome bike and I’m giving to my son as first bike. I would continue to ride it, but I’m 6 feet tall and my legs are just a little long. It would be nice to have forward foot controls on it which I thought of adding to it but I ended up buying a 2024 Harley Davidson softail heritage classic. I also own a 2023 Honda Goldwing 1100 and I also have a 2024 Honda Africa, twin ADV fully sport adventure bike. I’m a big fan of yours and I really like your channel. If you’re ever out here in Hollywood, we could do some nice rides in Malibu Santa Barbara. You could roll with our club Bad Boyz MC. I would also invite you to the Magic Castle. I am a performing member there. Take care and thank you for your channel and thank you for all the voodoo that you do❤❤😊😊
I remember my 1st bikes.... minibike, Suzuki moped w/leg fairing, Sears 106 then a Honda 450 CL scrambler, none had a gas gauge but they did have a speedo and a high beam indicator,, man those were the days!!!! LOL Thanks Doodle!!!!
I really like the profile of the Eliminator. I love the Rebel for what it is, but the high backbone of the new models just never did it for me. It looks like a fun little stomp around bike.
LOL @you explaining what 'naked' meant. :) As for the Honda Rebel ....I don't think they have anything to worry about right now. Thanks for posting/sharing this. Cheers!
May be good for some, but Dairyland was by far the most expensive quote I received. On the order of over 2k per year vs 700ish for full coverage on my Spyder where I am now.
New rider. I did a ton of research before buying my bike. The internet had me sold on the Eliminator. Once I had a chance to sit on one I found it too small. Bought a Z650RS instead.
I dig the looks, i even did a double take at a gas station a while back because i hadnt seen one in the wild yet. But for the same money you can get a Shotgun 650 that sounds just...amazing.
The new Eliminator is definitely greatly improved. More of a sport bike than a cruiser like it used to be. I am curious about the weight. Hopefully under 450 lbs.for a bike that dispaces 400 cc. I'd like to ride one and check it out.
I guess I'm just wierd. I don't like windscreens on bikes haha. Took the one off my old Harley cause it caused a lot of wind buffeting around my helmet. I'm the only one in my riding group to take my naked bike on multi-day trips to the mountains
Ok, I don’t have a windscreen, that what my helmut does. I ridden hundreds of mountain miles. As fore bags I have a medium size tank bag and a small duffel bag on the back of my seat for trips. I don’t need anything more. Make sure your bike has a 6 speed trans. Ride your own ride, if you like to go fast ride very early when there is no traffic. If you like to ride slow and take it all in, ride on farm roads and highways not freeways. Don’t use anything that distracts you stereos, phones, music etc, etc. the wind and your engine is your music! It better to have a small nibble bike that you control, then a huge heavy thing that controls you. Pick ride weather that is enjoyable. Have fun!
Have you ever done a video on the Versys X 300. It’s another great lightweight bike. I’m not really a beginner. I’m more of an old guy on a bike who wants comfort and doesn’t want to be worn out at the end of the day.
Rebel has one thing going for it - DCT - I have messed up legs, shifting is very difficult/painful. I'm planning on getting Rebel DCT and have the rear brake moved to the handlebars as well. Although I am mildly concerned about comfort / height. I have the opposite problem to most. Most bikes are too short, too small for me.
I just started riding at 65 years of age. After looking at all sorts of beginner bikes, I bought a 2007 Yamaha V Star 650 with only 11k miles on it. It's a pleasure riding this bike.
I started at 63 on a new 2017 V Star 250. Lil peppy V twin and fun bike that would haul me at 201 pounds at 87 mph. I went with a Vulcan 800 Classic 6 months later and still have it today. Then bought a 2006 Victory Kingpin 100 cu in monster that was the best riding, running, and looking bike Ive ever owned. At age 67 and a bad back it just got too heavy for me at 788 lbs, so I sadly sold it. I now have a 2013 Harley FXDBP Hard Candy Custom that I love almost as much as the Victory, and can handle its 636 lb weight. I still mostly around town ride the Vulcan 800 Classic. It’s just a fun and comfortable bike.
I've sat on both bikes and with a 32" inseam, I feel very cramped on the Rebel. The Kawi feels better, to the point that I could probably do short trips on it (200mi). Currently I ride a Burgman 200 for errands around town, while getting 70mpg/80mph. Nice video.
Well done comparison and review. I am not in the market but this is a great looking bike. The more I ride the more I appreciate bikes in the 600cc +/- 50cc range.
I like the eliminator, but there a alot of other bikes. Fantic Caballero 500, Triumph scrambler 400x. After my 125cc time, "my first bigger bike" is a Triumph Trident 660. The Engine sounds so amazing. It can be fast, but also be slow. Lots of features available like heated grips, aftermarket bags, windshield etc. And the best thing: it's powerfull, but not huge
I ride an 2017 Indian Scout 69cc. It is an absolutley fantasitc machine and also looks incredble. Not sure if Doodle has ever ridden one, but if not, she should. I have a number of bikes, Including Harley Ultra Limited, Victory Vision and Harley Softail Hertige. For all around riding, Ill take my Scout any day. Great for short legged riders.
In Oct 2023 I actually went to look at an Eliminator to buy. Then I compared it to the Rebel. It was more or less 50/50. But in the end, I still think the Rebel is a little more comfortable. Then again, I jumped straight to the Rebel 1100. I still say buy the Rebel.
I’ll stick we my ‘85 Rebel 250 for now; don’t care for cafe racer styles. If I decide to upgrade it’ll defo be a Triumph Bonnie, my absolute faves (might try to swipe one of hubbys vintage 60s or 70s😈)! Jet 🧡🎸🎶⚡️🤘🦋🏍🦇🦇🦇🎃👻👻👻
I'm a newer rider (about 3.5 years into it) and I ended up getting an Indian Scout as my first bike. I was very pleased with that option but the Honda probably would have been Door # 2.
Wish I knew it before. Bought 2024 Rebel 500 last month. Now looking for a touring screen that fit in this model. Tried Puig screen but didn't fit in 2024 model. Screw seems different.
Honestly, the Rebel 500 and Eliminator are completely outclassed by the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650. Still beginner friendly, with a little bit more power. And has a beautiful classic cruiser look that the Japanese bikes can’t come even close to.
I wish motorcycle advertisers would stop showing their motorcycle riders wearing athletic shoes. I see Doodle wears actual motorcycle apparel such as jackets and boots. But these advertisers show a particular bike and the rider is wearing casual shoes or athletic shoes as if they are going to the gym. You get involved in a crash and those shoes are NOT going to allow you to walk away from a collision.
I'm getting a CB750 Hornet restricted to A2 in the next few months. Was going to get the CL500 but my dealership is offering a 900€ reduction on the price of the Hornet so it's worth it. I was thinking of the CFMoto 450NK but I've heard that parts are hard to source.
I remember my first motorcycle. That was a long time ago before dirt was invented. LOL It had a speedometer and an odometer and that was it . if I ran out of gas that was on me.
Greetings from side of the Atlantic, Carolyn! I love that Kawasaki Eliminator but no matter the Pros and Cons, the Honda Rebel is still the best looking bike in this comparison. - I have the same opinion, the Eliminator is more like a Caffe Racer style while the Rebel still holds the Cruiser style looks.
Have been following your video. Love your channel. Very informative. Motivated me to be back on the bike again. I'm a new rider. Did BRC2 to improve skills. Wanted to do a long moto trip (1000+ miles). Planning to upgrade with lighter Adventure bike. I'm 5.4. Easy maintenance because still learning. Any suggestions?
The bike I wanted and got as my first bike in june was a night train. 2000 night train with 3800 miles on it. love that bike. it now has almost 6k miles
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Doodle my wife is 4'10.5" and picked the Rebel 300 ABS strictly for the shorter seat height and the lighter weight. This is her first bike at 50+ years old and was motivated by your videos. Thank you for doing what I have been unable to do and that is motivating her to ride a motorcycle.
Congrats to you both!!
Same I’m 4’10 and getting a Rebel.
The Kawasaki Vulcan S is an amazing bike for shorter riders as well.
A good friend of mine who is also sub-5-foot just picked up a Rebel, same reason. I didn't even know she was interested but she just surprised everyone. I told her it was a fantastic choice, especially since it's super low miles, looks showroom, and she got it for almost nothing.
@@Molly_Belle go head get 500
CL500 rider here. I love the simplicity of the bike and just enjoying the ride. Had a ninja back in the day and most of the focus was just on going fast and I missed the whole ride. Crashed it trying to keep up with riders who were above my skill level on twice the displacement bikes and now I just wanted a no-nonsense bike that I can just enjoy the ride itself and I love it. You meet the nicest people on a Honda :)
I feel like naked bikes are quite good for a first ride. Mine was naked and it lets you know exactly how fast you're really traveling at any given time by not shielding you from the wind. I believe some new riders need that reality check.
Personally I feel you are right to some degree. I however have gone far faster than "most" people would ever dare to and the fairings and sport screens when you are tucked nearly eliminates that until you break like 180. I noticed when I sat up @ 185 my speed dropped crazily fast kinda like an aircraft air brake. Fun times but I been riding since 1978, and my first 2 bikes were naked. Didn't stop me from reaching full acceleration but 130 is nowhere near 180+.
I got the Eliminator in August of '23 and love it so much! I added a windshield, a luggage rack and top case, and soft pannier support. I only use the panniers when I go camping. So far I've put 6800+ miles on it, mostly commuting to work from Rutherford County, NC to Charlotte - around 65 miles one way. I also just rode it to Shenandoa via the BRP in early September and learned some HARD lessons. I've been riding for 14 months and this was my first long distance trip. I made the trip in two 8 hour stints and one overnight. It was utterly painful. Coming back, I broke it into 2 overnights with 4-5 hours of riding per day and it was much nicer. I understand why touring bikes are so big. The bike isn't intended for that kind of riding but it did it like a champ loaded with 50-60lbs of gear and got around 60-62mpg. I really hope to pick up a Versys in the next year or 2, keeping the Eliminator for shorter rides on back country roads and around town. I'm 5'1" with a 28" inseam and can't flatfoot, but the balls of my feet are solidly on the ground. I have considered getting the taller seat so I can start shifting to one side or the other to have one foot down at a time for when I get the Versys.
Regarding Kawasaki's approach to gauges, your observations really resonate with me. One of the things I really love about my Z900RS is the dual analog gauges for tach and speed. There's a small concession for fuel and temperature gauges (a very barebones LCD), but it gives you only what you really need and nothing else. I haven't ever found myself wanting to fiddle with screens while riding, simply because there's nothing to fiddle with. I think for newer riders that's really important-- your focus should be up and out, not down at a dash.
I went with the Rebel; hands down, no question. I loved that bike.
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@@markh.harris9271 I’m going with the rebel too. I like the looks of the rebel much more
Going with CFMoto 450 CL-C. Yeah its Chinese, but it looks a lot better than both the Rebel and eliminator to me. And, i really like the tech being on it that both Rebel and Eliminator don't have. Motorcycle brands Ignore CFMoto at your own peril. More for less!
@LastDigitOnMyScratchOffTicket , yeah, the Rebel bobber styling is superior.
@@ibewscott69 I like that 450 CL-C too and it has more the looks of the Eliminator. The japanese brands hold a very long history of reliability. CFMoto is still like a new brand. In 15 or more years, we'll see if the CFMoto bikes hold what its brand promised its users to be. Only then people will full heartedly trust it.
Loved... Past tense. So you don't own it anymore? Just how much can you love something if you then give up on it?
I love my original model SV650 and still do 24 years later. I'll never get rid of it unless it becomes unrepairable. It's never let me down yet btw.
The thing is, that everybody, including me thought that Eliminator is cruiser. I own Vulcan s650 cafe and the other day i went to dealreship to have some check on it, and they offered me a test ride on Eliminator. I asked, why even bothering creating Eliminator 500 while having already Vulcan S 650 on the market. The dealer told me that i should check it out myself and oh boy! That was a lot of fun. Nimble, swift, great for thight maneuvers. Nothing, literally nothing like cruiser. It felt more like a naked bike and it was awesome!
True, this Eliminator is "nothing like a cruiser," except that it's appropriate for shorter riders.
"Cafe" is not a class of motorcycle; it's a style.
And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike.
The "S" in Vulcan S makes all the difference. Vulcan S is a naked bike that identifies as a cruiser (and marketed as such). The differently tuned engine is still the z650 engine at its heart, it's happy around 6-8k rpm, you can hear it sing. It's light enough to be fun, and if I have had a little too much fun I can bring it back upright just by the handlebars, no need to "walk it back". We chose it over the rebel for my wife when she just started riding, she likes it, and I steal it every now and then.
Oh, and "cafe" is one of 3 trims for Vulcan S, after "base" and "abs". Weirdly, the more expensive "cafe" does not have ABS, but it has a bit more fancy paint scheme instead...
@@Marsh.x _And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike._
That depends on what's meant by "cruiser". It's only a cruiser in that it's not a sport bike or adventure bike or a dirt bike, in other words in the most general sense. But in the sense they mean by saying it's not a cruiser, they mean that it's lighter and smaller, it's not a larger, and in general a larger engined motorcycle, such as most of the Harleys. You are being nitpicky.
@@Marsh.x The original Eliminator was a power cruiser - a new type at the time. Long and low with a 900 CC 4 cylinder engine.
6500 miles on my Eliminator. Absolutely love it. Commute 20 miles one way daily. Half on twisty FM hiway roads and half in town. Perfect for both. Comfy, quick, nimble. Light but firmly grounded. Added a tail bag. 500 miles in 24 hours with no sore back,butt or hands
Just started riding about a month ago, I went with 1998 Honda VT750 Shadow Ace Deluxe as my first bike. I love it!!
Being 70 years old and ridden for many years, I have an 24 Eliminator 400. I live in Thailand and this bike is plenty big enough for here. I have owned 700cc, 1400cc Intruders, Kawasaki 900cc Ninja and started out on a Honda CB550, CB750F and V4 750F. I will say that my Eliminator is one of the funnest bikes I have owned. It will make me the best last bike that I own!
I didn't buy the Honda Rebel, I instead bought a 2024 Kawasaki Z900RS SE, which I have not regretted. It is easy to ride, I sit relaxed in the saddle and it is well built. Never again a touring bike from Honda or Harley. Cheaper purchases, insurance, road tax and inspection. Ideal to go to work with as it can also fit under cover in the scooter/motorcycle garage. Sleek and useful in an urban environment, and yes, I get it, you're short and I'm tall, hence my choice. But after 6 months of ownership, I have only positive things to say about this bike. Just need to put on a Corbinsadel, and a Dash-cam then I'll probably be satisfied.
I own the Rebel 1100. Such a good bike. Fits me, being a shorter sized Female. The 1100 provide enough power for me. I also own an old school RE Himalayan 411 to fit my other needs when going on gravel roads. Tried the Kawasaki Vulcan S but this felt too small for me compared to my then so dearly missed Kawasaki ’Old School)’ VN 800.
I have a Harley Street Bob for my longer rides, but I have held on to my 2000 Vulcan 800 Classic that still looks and runs good as new, and I love riding that bike over the Harley most of the time.
The Rebel 500 absolutely rips. That 500cc engine is truly amazing. 50 HP. However the Kawasaki is also a cool bike. You really can't go wrong with either bike.
Try the 1100. It’s a little over 1083 cc much more power and it’s the same bike just bigger engine
@@hollywoodmagician yep. I love my 1100
@ yeah the 1100 rebel DCT is a really nice bike. I really enjoy it. I really enjoy riding it. I may put some forward foot controls if my son doesn’t end up riding it, but I hope he does. I want to start riding with me.
at 62yo with bad knee's , I be looking at this model in spring 2025, I have the Hunter 350 disappointed at top speed only 74-75 here in Tx to slow in most case's engine feels like its working to hard
A 600 Honda Shadow is a great starter bike. I had a 94 and rode it to Sturgis, about 900 miles from where I live. Never had to touch the engine, clutch, or carb. Sold it with 85.000 miles on it. Still ran perfect.
I got the RE hunter 350!!!! you're an inspiration. I got 10K miles in my first 9 months
My first bike was a 100cc 72 Kawasaki G4. As many teens in the 70s, we grew up wanting to be moto X stars. We spent as much time off road as possible. We fell a lot. We learned to use front brakes without washing out. This is extremely important. We learned to tuck and roll when we went down. We learned to do our own repairs. We learned in a much safer environment than on asphalt. We lost a few friends along the way which taught is to respect our bikes. I highly recommend beginners get a small off road bike before venturing into traffic. The things you learn may save your life. This is even more true today due to all the distracted drivers on the road. Stay safe and keep your head on a swivel. You never know which car plans to run you over.
Absolutely true. I started out on trail bikes, and off-road only bikes. I was amazed at how few skills guys who had only been street riders had.
As a beginner rider who just started riding motorcycles in my late 40s, I have found your channel to be informative and indispensable for beginner riders. Please do a video on the types of tire patterns for rainy and wet conditions for daily use, especially for hotter climates.
My Harley Sportster has a nice simple dash. One analog speedo, with an lcd window to display two trip odos, tachometer, clock, or total mileage.
I'm biased but I love my Honda Rebel 500. I got a limited edition color that only came on the 2017's so its a lot more unique than the others on the market. I'm 5'0" with a 28" inseam so the seat on the Rebel made it an easy choice. I actually put a windscreen on the Rebel but took it off just a few months later because I didn't like how the wind deflected.
I'm a beginner to the streets but I've been riding for a few years. The Rebel 500 is the perfect size to get up and go, or cruise the freeway, though sometimes I wish it had just a *touch* more power.
Great video, Doodle!
Give the Vulcan 650 S a go. It’s worth it.
Great video !!! enjoy all your videos. I started with the honda Rebel 500 and it was such an amazing bike. You said something that I experienced, no one told me about how important a windscreen or fairing is for long trips. Going out with my friends, I was getting wrecked by the wind so hard, oh and the small tank had me be the one stopping all the time for gas. lol. My next bike had a fairing to protect from the wind. I always share that with new riders who want bikes with no wind protection.
And everyone still forgets the v-twin cruiser Vstar 250, which retails for 4700-5400. Top speed 84mph, 5-speed manual gearbox, 249cc engine, and gets up to 78mpg. Similarly sized to the sportster 883 and Indian scout, handles easily and very confidence inspiring, with a 25" seat height.
Weighs in at 330lbs
Similar styling to the pre-2016 hknda rebels, as well as the Suzuki GS250.
Only downside to the vstar 250 is the fact that, like the older rebels and the gs250, there's no aftermarket accessories for direct fitment such as bags and windshields.
One downside is that as the engine is 249cc. Many interstates are posted that that motorcycles under 250cc are prohibited, while I have never heard of someone on a "nominal 250" which is actually a few ccs smaller being pulled over, an a-hole cop could.
My gf loves the bike, still pretty new to ridding, but she can drive her way around the bike, she she's like 5'0 '1ish haha still working to develop her core and leg strenght really good for ridding and helps to control the bike a lot! Love the vid!
I would the Kawa over the Rebel any day. I ended up with a Triumph Speed 400, and I love it, even though I had some issues at first.
As much as I was impressed with this bike, I really an glad I went with the Vulcan S. All of my bigger on-road bikes have been middleweight motorcycles; 600 cc and upwards displacement.
You are right about the windscreen. Most of my commute last year was at slower speeds but at a larger distance from the job, I have to be on high speed roads to get there in the morning starting this season. 60+ almost all of the way. I added a Puig Naked New Generation touring (higher) windscreen. It made a big difference in comfort at high speed cruising.
I have a few different tank bags and a backpack. I prefer using the tank bag most of the time. Like most cruisers, there's a nice flat surface for the magnets to stick to. I don't use the collar ring connector type.
Thanks for your outlook. That's why I subscribed.
@BobTaylorCruising i had an option between the vulcan s and rebel and I went with the vulcan without question. I actually really enjoyed the eco fit that they provide. The bike i got was used but with all the extra bells and whistles like detachable windscreen was really what sold it for me. Been only riding for 6 months but I got used to riding her quick. I know I'm going to keep my vulcan for a lot longer before my next bike because of how much more versatile it is, and compatible with my lifestyle.
Yeah, the Vulcan S wins over the Eliminator for a number of reasons. Biggest one is comfort with legs forward. 2nd is more power for dodging idiots in their 4wheelers. (retired semi driver)
I gotta find me a Vulcan S to ride!!
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle The two bikes have similarities. Both are cruiser layouts in being long with a low seat. The Eliminator has mid foot controls and the Vulcan S has forward foot controls. You've ridden plenty of cruisers so the layout should be familiar. The Vulcan produces more power and torque as its a higher displacement machine. The Vulcan S weighs more at a minimum of 492 lbs. fully provisioned. Both use parallel twin, 180 degree crank engines as made back in the 1960's on but liquid cooled and with fuel injection. The Vulcan S has an analogue tachometer with a very simple monochrome LCD display, There is a fuel gauge and two trip meters on both.
Riding the bike surprised me. I've made some extreme corners on the Vulcan without dragging pegs or other bits on the road. Handing is lighter than typical for a cruiser and curvy roads are more fun than I expected. It's not a bad bike for new riders mostly because it's very easy to ride. It's stable at high speeds and heavy enough to feel planted on interstates. Handling is good and the supplied tires, sport touring tires, are a good choice for the bike.
I think that Kawasaki was aiming at both newer riders and older guys like me. It makes a fine commuter bike and a decent short trip motorcycle. It's a fine cruiser. It excels at day trips and just bopping around. I use mine to find new county roads I've never been on. My wife tolerates it as a "hobby". Life is good!
Love the Rebel 1100, for a different reason than most probably.
Since my left ankle is nearly immobile, the Honda DCT bikes give me the opportunity to ride again. Since they're the only major company that made it possible, I'll be staying with Honda, even if other companies start making models with DCT as well.
Honestly I'd take the RE Hunter, it's an absolutely adorable and fun bike. I already have two bikes but I still sorta want a Hunter. But I have zero interests in cruisers, having owned one they're super uncomfortable to me.
Buy the Honda Rebel.
But the timeless old Classic version of the Honda Rebel... years 1985-1987, 1996-1997, 1999-2016
not whatever stuff this new junk is with the Honda Rebel name on it.
Probably an okay bike in its own right, but it should have gotten it's own name, and not k.o.ed an iconic legend.
I paid 500 bucks for my 1985 Rebel back around 2004, restored it, and it made me fall in love with motorcycling mainly for the 60mpg. I still have it 20 years later and it still runs and is a blast to drive. Light, flicable, fun, cheap, easy to work on and maintain. Not fun on the interstate or in a city, so you move on to bigger, heavier bikes which are nowhere near fun to drive.
I wanted a Honda Rebel for 15 years and I’m finally able to get into motorcycling and I changed my mind. Getting an Eliminator tomorrow! I’m so excited 😁😁
Congratulations on your new bike.
good choice , honda quality has been spiraling down for the last decade
"i'm never going naked on a bike again. By the way..."
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No way did I say that?😂
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle - 🤣
What do you mean “ again”….lol
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle sim, falou sim. 🤣
My son is a new rider he was going to get a 2024 rebel 500 for his first bike but I suggested getting a bigger cc so he got a 2024 shadow aero 750 he has been endorsed since June and is already talking about a bigger cc bike I ride a old Vulcan 900 custom that I’ve owned since new in 07 and I love big blue and keep up the good work doodle. Love your channel.👍
I’ve owned my 24 eliminator SE Abs for a little under a year and as a newer rider I love this little light weight bike. Not gonna lie it was a toss up for me between the rebel and the eliminator and I went with the kawi because of the color
Great to hear that competition is still alive and well in entry level bikes. It will lead to some great advancements for new riders.
I had a Honda Rebel 500 for three years and I really liked it. Great bike and easy to ride. However, the seat height was a bit too low for me (I'm 1.81m) and I also discovered that going off-road can be a lot of fun, so I changed it for one of the last old model Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 which was still for sale. I'm super happy with the Royal Enfield. Once I sat on a Kawasaki Eliminator and it felt very similar to the Rebel. It felt like it had a slightly higher seat height as the Rebel but not very much.
I have just purchased a Honda Fury after you Americans sang its praises I've had a savage and a 1400 intruder and now I have the love of my life. The Fury is incredible ❤❤❤ I love it
I'm kind of surprised Honda is still building that "chopper-style" model.
Looks wise The Eliminator all day long. for 500cc or less, Again I will take the Kawasaki. The Eliminator looks and makes you think you are on a bigger bike, but without the weight of a bigger bike. the Rebel just looks awkward.
Completely agree
I like the looks of the CFMoto 450 CL-C better than both. Soon as it hits the dealer it is mine. More for less!
@@ibewscott69 CFMoto 450 CL-C is the nicest one of its class. I was blown away when I first saw it. I never reacted that way for the others when they were first released.
Finally you mention your old Suzuki Boulevard S40! Do you miss it at all? I just got one and am really enjoying the bike. Great price and good power. Louder than I would like but the price and simplicity of the bike is awesome. Thanks for the entertaining vids
I was planning on buying a Rebel 500 for my first bike, but happened across a slightly used Eliminator for a great deal. I am loving it, and plan to keep it as a commuter/in town bike I upgrade to a bigger bike.
I just got a Kawasaki eliminator 500/450 and love it. I've always wanted a Honda Rebel but I ended up getting this! My first mods were exactly those you mentioned too. Windshield and saddlebags/rear bag. And an exhaust and tail tidy of course.
Same with me, i was always looking at the rebel for a long time until the time i can buy a bike, and then thats exactly the time eliminator was released on my country , i tested both bikes, but even when i saw the eliminator at first, i already know its what im going to buy.
It feels more bigger, and also the mods u want forntge rebel are already in the elim se.. and with lower overall price...
So yeah kawasaki wins for me
That orange one is gorgeous in-person.
I'm gonna show my newness here, but I still think, at least for a big person that doesn't want to win drags and highway sprints, that the C50T is the best beginner bike. I'm 6' and 300 pounds. I've sat on a Rebel, Bolt, Vulcan, Shadow, a Fury, a couple Scouts and a few HDs.....nothing felt as comfortable as my 2012 Boulevard. Once I got the handlebars dialed up, the rear brake pedal dropped down a little bit, my fears started vanishing. In two months of riding, I've done a charity ride, a day trip from South Jersey to Newark, and a two hour ride to go see a friend in Leola PA. And with few exceptions, my boulevard stood strong with me.
To me, the C50T is a Warhorse. Yeah, it's big, it's heavy, and it will make you TELL it what to do....but it will also do what you say. I'm not fighting wind, I'm not fighting fidgetiness or flick. You take a Racehorse of a sport bike, whiskey throttle just a little too much, and your rear is eating pavement. I was about to quit my MSF course instruction, before they pulled me off the KTM sport I was on, and put me on a saner DS. I envied the guy on the Rebel with Forward foot controls.
I own a Honda Rebel 1100T, and I must say that it’s been the best riding experience for me so far. I did sit on the Eliminator, but decided to purchase the Rebel for its power, seating height and features. That being said, the Eliminator is a great option as well, and I don’t think folks will be disappointed.
im going with the CFMoto 450 CL-C. I like the looks of it better. Plus it has a tft screen i can see better. Oh and the screen is not off center like on the eliminator. That would mess with my OCD so bad.
I recently bought a Honda Rebel 500 as my first bike and I couldn’t be more happy. Very convenient, easy to handle and absolutely gorgeous. Imo it looks more premium compared to the Eliminator and more like a cruiser as well. And the Honda Rebel community is just amazing. ❤
I’m definitely a fan and I have enjoyed watching you grow and become more experienced, especially as a former successful RUclips content creator and successful channel provider I enjoy your videos. This was a great video but you could have talked about the Honda Rebel a little better. I own a 2023 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT with a front fairing and hard saddle bags stock from Honda factory. It’s an awesome bike and I’m giving to my son as first bike. I would continue to ride it, but I’m 6 feet tall and my legs are just a little long. It would be nice to have forward foot controls on it which I thought of adding to it but I ended up buying a 2024 Harley Davidson softail heritage classic. I also own a 2023 Honda Goldwing 1100 and I also have a 2024 Honda Africa, twin ADV fully sport adventure bike. I’m a big fan of yours and I really like your channel. If you’re ever out here in Hollywood, we could do some nice rides in Malibu Santa Barbara. You could roll with our club Bad Boyz MC. I would also invite you to the Magic Castle. I am a performing member there. Take care and thank you for your channel and thank you for all the voodoo that you do❤❤😊😊
I personally would get a Yamaha bolt instead but the new eliminator is honestly cool looking comparing the previous models
73k miles on my Rebel 500, and still on the original battery. The goal is 100k miles, it was $4,900 and $6,200 out the door new.
A great, informative video once again, Doodle. Keep it up, and as always, keep it upright.
I love the simplicity of the bike
That orange one looks amazing
I remember my 1st bikes.... minibike, Suzuki moped w/leg fairing, Sears 106 then a Honda 450 CL scrambler, none had a gas gauge but they did have a speedo and a high beam indicator,, man those were the days!!!! LOL Thanks Doodle!!!!
I really like the profile of the Eliminator. I love the Rebel for what it is, but the high backbone of the new models just never did it for me.
It looks like a fun little stomp around bike.
I love your first bike, it was so clean and vintage looking I'd have to keep it
I love my Rebel 1100. It is my first bike and will keep it as long as the motor runs which should be forever.
LOL @you explaining what 'naked' meant. :)
As for the Honda Rebel ....I don't think they have anything to worry about right now. Thanks for posting/sharing this. Cheers!
Back when I began riding, I skipped right over the Rebel for a used 750 Shadow Aero.
May be good for some, but Dairyland was by far the most expensive quote I received. On the order of over 2k per year vs 700ish for full coverage on my Spyder where I am now.
New rider. I did a ton of research before buying my bike. The internet had me sold on the Eliminator. Once I had a chance to sit on one I found it too small. Bought a Z650RS instead.
Love your videos. I was sold on the rebel 1100. Wife has the 500.
But this was the other bike we were looking into.
I dig the looks, i even did a double take at a gas station a while back because i hadnt seen one in the wild yet. But for the same money you can get a Shotgun 650 that sounds just...amazing.
I just find the sit-up-and-beg look of the Rebel unsightly, as well.
The new Eliminator is definitely greatly improved. More of a sport bike than a cruiser like it used to be. I am curious about the weight. Hopefully under 450 lbs.for a bike that dispaces 400 cc. I'd like to ride one and check it out.
I have the '24 SE. Right about 390ish wet. 451cc with somewhere between 49 and 52 hp, depending on the source. Loving it!
@sharkymarky7251 Now that does sound good. I could get into that.
I guess I'm just wierd. I don't like windscreens on bikes haha. Took the one off my old Harley cause it caused a lot of wind buffeting around my helmet. I'm the only one in my riding group to take my naked bike on multi-day trips to the mountains
If I want windscreen and radio I'll drive my car!
Ok, I don’t have a windscreen, that what my helmut does. I ridden hundreds of mountain miles. As fore bags I have a medium size tank bag and a small duffel bag on the back of my seat for trips. I don’t need anything more. Make sure your bike has a 6 speed trans. Ride your own ride, if you like to go fast ride very early when there is no traffic. If you like to ride slow and take it all in, ride on farm roads and highways not freeways. Don’t use anything that distracts you stereos, phones, music etc, etc. the wind and your engine is your music! It better to have a small nibble bike that you control, then a huge heavy thing that controls you. Pick ride weather that is enjoyable. Have fun!
Have you ever done a video on the Versys X 300. It’s another great lightweight bike. I’m not really a beginner. I’m more of an old guy on a bike who wants comfort and doesn’t want to be worn out at the end of the day.
Rebel has one thing going for it - DCT - I have messed up legs, shifting is very difficult/painful. I'm planning on getting Rebel DCT and have the rear brake moved to the handlebars as well. Although I am mildly concerned about comfort / height. I have the opposite problem to most. Most bikes are too short, too small for me.
I just started riding at 65 years of age. After looking at all sorts of beginner bikes, I bought a 2007 Yamaha V Star 650 with only 11k miles on it. It's a pleasure riding this bike.
I started at 63 on a new 2017 V Star 250. Lil peppy V twin and fun bike that would haul me at 201 pounds at 87 mph. I went with a Vulcan 800 Classic 6 months later and still have it today. Then bought a 2006 Victory Kingpin 100 cu in monster that was the best riding, running, and looking bike Ive ever owned. At age 67 and a bad back it just got too heavy for me at 788 lbs, so I sadly sold it. I now have a 2013 Harley FXDBP Hard Candy Custom that I love almost as much as the Victory, and can handle its 636 lb weight. I still mostly around town ride the Vulcan 800 Classic. It’s just a fun and comfortable bike.
I tried the Rebel for my first as well but it was just soooo heavy. Trying a Navi right now and love not worrying about a clutch.
I've sat on both bikes and with a 32" inseam, I feel very cramped on the Rebel. The Kawi feels better, to the point that I could probably do short trips on it (200mi). Currently I ride a Burgman 200 for errands around town, while getting 70mpg/80mph. Nice video.
You have the best attitude. Love that
Well done comparison and review. I am not in the market but this is a great looking bike. The more I ride the more I appreciate bikes in the 600cc +/- 50cc range.
Until they dropped it, I called the Suzuki TU250x as the perfect beginner bike. Now I call the Kawasaki W230/Royal Enfield 350 Classic.
I like the eliminator, but there a alot of other bikes. Fantic Caballero 500, Triumph scrambler 400x. After my 125cc time, "my first bigger bike" is a Triumph Trident 660. The Engine sounds so amazing. It can be fast, but also be slow. Lots of features available like heated grips, aftermarket bags, windshield etc.
And the best thing: it's powerfull, but not huge
My first bike was a 1972 Honda CL 100. I got it for $250 and rode the wheels off it.
I ride an 2017 Indian Scout 69cc. It is an absolutley fantasitc machine and also looks incredble. Not sure if Doodle has ever ridden one, but if not, she should. I have a number of bikes, Including Harley Ultra Limited, Victory Vision and Harley Softail Hertige. For all around riding, Ill take my Scout any day. Great for short legged riders.
Great review, Doodle! Would love to see you get back to doing bike reviews on a regular basis.
I test drove a Rebel back in the day. It was so slow I could run faster
Rebel is a great reliable first bike. The R3, mt03, vstar 250 also good options
My 2020 with 48,000km is so cool & handsome ...Honda Rebel 500 is still the best!
In Oct 2023 I actually went to look at an Eliminator to buy. Then I compared it to the Rebel. It was more or less 50/50. But in the end, I still think the Rebel is a little more comfortable. Then again, I jumped straight to the Rebel 1100. I still say buy the Rebel.
Got the eliminator for my first street bike, and I love it. 😎
Nice that you spend time on affordable motorcycles 🙏👍🏻
I’ll stick we my ‘85 Rebel 250 for now; don’t care for cafe racer styles. If I decide to upgrade it’ll defo be a Triumph Bonnie, my absolute faves (might try to swipe one of hubbys vintage 60s or 70s😈)! Jet 🧡🎸🎶⚡️🤘🦋🏍🦇🦇🦇🎃👻👻👻
I'm a newer rider (about 3.5 years into it) and I ended up getting an Indian Scout as my first bike. I was very pleased with that option but the Honda probably would have been Door # 2.
Love hearing your outlook and informative opinions! 👍👍
I have a 2006 zx10 and a 2018 africa twin, I bought an eliminator last year and it's my favorite bike
Wish I knew it before. Bought 2024 Rebel 500 last month. Now looking for a touring screen that fit in this model. Tried Puig screen but didn't fit in 2024 model. Screw seems different.
Honestly, the Rebel 500 and Eliminator are completely outclassed by the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650.
Still beginner friendly, with a little bit more power. And has a beautiful classic cruiser look that the Japanese bikes can’t come even close to.
I wish motorcycle advertisers would stop showing their motorcycle riders wearing athletic shoes. I see Doodle wears actual motorcycle apparel such as jackets and boots. But these advertisers show a particular bike and the rider is wearing casual shoes or athletic shoes as if they are going to the gym. You get involved in a crash and those shoes are NOT going to allow you to walk away from a collision.
I'm getting a CB750 Hornet restricted to A2 in the next few months. Was going to get the CL500 but my dealership is offering a 900€ reduction on the price of the Hornet so it's worth it. I was thinking of the CFMoto 450NK but I've heard that parts are hard to source.
I call it an alternative rather than a replacement.
Another one, and cheaper too,it is the Royal Enfield Meteor 350.
I remember my first motorcycle. That was a long time ago before dirt was invented. LOL
It had a speedometer and an odometer and that was it . if I ran out of gas that was on me.
Nice!! lol
throw over saddle bags are a must... & pretty much all ya need.... cheers Doodle
Greetings from side of the Atlantic, Carolyn! I love that Kawasaki Eliminator but no matter the Pros and Cons, the Honda Rebel is still the best looking bike in this comparison.
- I have the same opinion, the Eliminator is more like a Caffe Racer style while the Rebel still holds the Cruiser style looks.
Have been following your video. Love your channel. Very informative. Motivated me to be back on the bike again. I'm a new rider. Did BRC2 to improve skills. Wanted to do a long moto trip (1000+ miles). Planning to upgrade with lighter Adventure bike. I'm 5.4. Easy maintenance because still learning. Any suggestions?
4:34 Honda Trail 125 is highway legal, although most people wouldn't recommend it.
Prayers 🙏
The bike I wanted and got as my first bike in june was a night train. 2000 night train with 3800 miles on it. love that bike. it now has almost 6k miles
Nice!