Doodle my wife is 4'10.5" and picked the Rebel 300 ABS strictly for the shorter seat height and the lighter weight. This is her first bike at 50+ years old and was motivated by your videos. Thank you for doing what I have been unable to do and that is motivating her to ride a motorcycle.
A good friend of mine who is also sub-5-foot just picked up a Rebel, same reason. I didn't even know she was interested but she just surprised everyone. I told her it was a fantastic choice, especially since it's super low miles, looks showroom, and she got it for almost nothing.
I feel like naked bikes are quite good for a first ride. Mine was naked and it lets you know exactly how fast you're really traveling at any given time by not shielding you from the wind. I believe some new riders need that reality check.
Personally I feel you are right to some degree. I however have gone far faster than "most" people would ever dare to and the fairings and sport screens when you are tucked nearly eliminates that until you break like 180. I noticed when I sat up @ 185 my speed dropped crazily fast kinda like an aircraft air brake. Fun times but I been riding since 1978, and my first 2 bikes were naked. Didn't stop me from reaching full acceleration but 130 is nowhere near 180+.
I got the Eliminator in August of '23 and love it so much! I added a windshield, a luggage rack and top case, and soft pannier support. I only use the panniers when I go camping. So far I've put 6800+ miles on it, mostly commuting to work from Rutherford County, NC to Charlotte - around 65 miles one way. I also just rode it to Shenandoa via the BRP in early September and learned some HARD lessons. I've been riding for 14 months and this was my first long distance trip. I made the trip in two 8 hour stints and one overnight. It was utterly painful. Coming back, I broke it into 2 overnights with 4-5 hours of riding per day and it was much nicer. I understand why touring bikes are so big. The bike isn't intended for that kind of riding but it did it like a champ loaded with 50-60lbs of gear and got around 60-62mpg. I really hope to pick up a Versys in the next year or 2, keeping the Eliminator for shorter rides on back country roads and around town. I'm 5'1" with a 28" inseam and can't flatfoot, but the balls of my feet are solidly on the ground. I have considered getting the taller seat so I can start shifting to one side or the other to have one foot down at a time for when I get the Versys.
The thing is, that everybody, including me thought that Eliminator is cruiser. I own Vulcan s650 cafe and the other day i went to dealreship to have some check on it, and they offered me a test ride on Eliminator. I asked, why even bothering creating Eliminator 500 while having already Vulcan S 650 on the market. The dealer told me that i should check it out myself and oh boy! That was a lot of fun. Nimble, swift, great for thight maneuvers. Nothing, literally nothing like cruiser. It felt more like a naked bike and it was awesome!
"Cafe" is not a class of motorcycle; it's a style. And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike.
The "S" in Vulcan S makes all the difference. Vulcan S is a naked bike that identifies as a cruiser (and marketed as such). The differently tuned engine is still the z650 engine at its heart, it's happy around 6-8k rpm, you can hear it sing. It's light enough to be fun, and if I have had a little too much fun I can bring it back upright just by the handlebars, no need to "walk it back". We chose it over the rebel for my wife when she just started riding, she likes it, and I steal it every now and then. Oh, and "cafe" is one of 3 trims for Vulcan S, after "base" and "abs". Weirdly, the more expensive "cafe" does not have ABS, but it has a bit more fancy paint scheme instead...
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@@Marsh.x _And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike._ That depends on what's meant by "cruiser". It's only a cruiser in that it's not a sport bike or adventure bike or a dirt bike, in other words in the most general sense. But in the sense they mean by saying it's not a cruiser, they mean that it's lighter and smaller, it's not a larger, and in general a larger engined motorcycle, such as most of the Harleys. You are being nitpicky.
6500 miles on my Eliminator. Absolutely love it. Commute 20 miles one way daily. Half on twisty FM hiway roads and half in town. Perfect for both. Comfy, quick, nimble. Light but firmly grounded. Added a tail bag. 500 miles in 24 hours with no sore back,butt or hands
CL500 rider here. I love the simplicity of the bike and just enjoying the ride. Had a ninja back in the day and most of the focus was just on going fast and I missed the whole ride. Crashed it trying to keep up with riders who were above my skill level on twice the displacement bikes and now I just wanted a no-nonsense bike that I can just enjoy the ride itself and I love it. You meet the nicest people on a Honda :)
@@jamesballard6564 I've only had the CL500 (not counting small stuff) so, disclaimer, I can't compare it to other bikes. That said, the pegs kiiiind of get in the way, but it doesn't really bother me. I think it'd only be an issue if you're shorter than 5'8" (172cm). It's the love of my life.
Actually, I've watched other videos since making this comment, and I think I was straight up wrong. It really shouldn't be an issue with any amount of very simple know-how. Don't make comments unless you know what you're talking about 😅
@@jamesballard6564 They can but I don't really notice it but I don't have a lot of hours on mine but I just widened the stance slightly and it's not been too noticable.
Going with CFMoto 450 CL-C. Yeah its Chinese, but it looks a lot better than both the Rebel and eliminator to me. And, i really like the tech being on it that both Rebel and Eliminator don't have. Motorcycle brands Ignore CFMoto at your own peril. More for less!
@@ibewscott69 I like that 450 CL-C too and it has more the looks of the Eliminator. The japanese brands hold a very long history of reliability. CFMoto is still like a new brand. In 15 or more years, we'll see if the CFMoto bikes hold what its brand promised its users to be. Only then people will full heartedly trust it.
Loved... Past tense. So you don't own it anymore? Just how much can you love something if you then give up on it? I love my original model SV650 and still do 24 years later. I'll never get rid of it unless it becomes unrepairable. It's never let me down yet btw.
Regarding Kawasaki's approach to gauges, your observations really resonate with me. One of the things I really love about my Z900RS is the dual analog gauges for tach and speed. There's a small concession for fuel and temperature gauges (a very barebones LCD), but it gives you only what you really need and nothing else. I haven't ever found myself wanting to fiddle with screens while riding, simply because there's nothing to fiddle with. I think for newer riders that's really important-- your focus should be up and out, not down at a dash.
For what it’s worth, I used to be the senior test rider for a motorcycle tyre brand, and would test every motorcycle by every manufacturer worldwide, every year. In my experience, Honda, as a company, test all manner of situations, scenarios, & problems far more than many other manufacturers, and as a result, in most cases, have a polished finesse of outcome most other manufacturers do not, particularly in less than desirable real world situations. As we say in England “You pays your money, & you makes your choice “. Choose wisely
I didn't buy the Honda Rebel, I instead bought a 2024 Kawasaki Z900RS SE, which I have not regretted. It is easy to ride, I sit relaxed in the saddle and it is well built. Never again a touring bike from Honda or Harley. Cheaper purchases, insurance, road tax and inspection. Ideal to go to work with as it can also fit under cover in the scooter/motorcycle garage. Sleek and useful in an urban environment, and yes, I get it, you're short and I'm tall, hence my choice. But after 6 months of ownership, I have only positive things to say about this bike. Just need to put on a Corbinsadel, and a Dash-cam then I'll probably be satisfied.
I find it interesting that bikes with a displacement of 650+ are rated as a best beginner bike...It is also interesting (as a biker of 50 years) to observe how complex and jam-packed the bike frame is. Sad to see that the opportunity for new bikers to tinker and do much of the maintenance and tuning that enriched our biking experience. Lightweight and simplicity can be a great support for a new biker.
A 600 Honda Shadow is a great starter bike. I had a 94 and rode it to Sturgis, about 900 miles from where I live. Never had to touch the engine, clutch, or carb. Sold it with 85.000 miles on it. Still ran perfect.
I’m not big on making comments as I’ve never gotten a response before. I came across your video about Honda Rebel. About what to buy. Way back in ‘96, I was looking for my first street bike. I looked and sat on a lot of bikes. Nothing felt right until I was taken to a dealer storage area. They showed me a ‘95 Honda Magna 750. The second I sat on it I knew it was the right bike. I really liked that bike. Unfortunately I sold it and have regretted it since. It took 20 years for my next bike. A few years ago I finally bought a ‘99 Honda Valkyrie. It just fits. If you ever get to Texas, I would really like to go for a ride with you. I don’t do videos. I would just enjoy the ride.
Being 70 years old and ridden for many years, I have an 24 Eliminator 400. I live in Thailand and this bike is plenty big enough for here. I have owned 700cc, 1400cc Intruders, Kawasaki 900cc Ninja and started out on a Honda CB550, CB750F and V4 750F. I will say that my Eliminator is one of the funnest bikes I have owned. It will make me the best last bike that I own!
As a beginner rider who just started riding motorcycles in my late 40s, I have found your channel to be informative and indispensable for beginner riders. Please do a video on the types of tire patterns for rainy and wet conditions for daily use, especially for hotter climates.
The Rebel 500 absolutely rips. That 500cc engine is truly amazing. 50 HP. However the Kawasaki is also a cool bike. You really can't go wrong with either bike.
@ yeah the 1100 rebel DCT is a really nice bike. I really enjoy it. I really enjoy riding it. I may put some forward foot controls if my son doesn’t end up riding it, but I hope he does. I want to start riding with me.
It's got 47 hp. The Kawasaki Vulcan 500 LTD from the 90s-2000s had almost 51 HP. Honda kept the power down for the European market restrictions on beginner licences.
I was planning on buying a Rebel 500 for my first bike, but happened across a slightly used Eliminator for a great deal. I am loving it, and plan to keep it as a commuter/in town bike I upgrade to a bigger bike.
My son is a new rider he was going to get a 2024 rebel 500 for his first bike but I suggested getting a bigger cc so he got a 2024 shadow aero 750 he has been endorsed since June and is already talking about a bigger cc bike I ride a old Vulcan 900 custom that I’ve owned since new in 07 and I love big blue and keep up the good work doodle. Love your channel.👍
My first bike was a 100cc 72 Kawasaki G4. As many teens in the 70s, we grew up wanting to be moto X stars. We spent as much time off road as possible. We fell a lot. We learned to use front brakes without washing out. This is extremely important. We learned to tuck and roll when we went down. We learned to do our own repairs. We learned in a much safer environment than on asphalt. We lost a few friends along the way which taught is to respect our bikes. I highly recommend beginners get a small off road bike before venturing into traffic. The things you learn may save your life. This is even more true today due to all the distracted drivers on the road. Stay safe and keep your head on a swivel. You never know which car plans to run you over.
New rider. I did a ton of research before buying my bike. The internet had me sold on the Eliminator. Once I had a chance to sit on one I found it too small. Bought a Z650RS instead.
I own the Rebel 1100. Such a good bike. Fits me, being a shorter sized Female. The 1100 provide enough power for me. I also own an old school RE Himalayan 411 to fit my other needs when going on gravel roads. Tried the Kawasaki Vulcan S but this felt too small for me compared to my then so dearly missed Kawasaki ’Old School)’ VN 800.
I have a Harley Street Bob for my longer rides, but I have held on to my 2000 Vulcan 800 Classic that still looks and runs good as new, and I love riding that bike over the Harley most of the time.
I need to practice riding with your kind of enthusiasm, do 30 days of figure 8's, and so on. I love both Kawasaki and Honda, and the Eliminator is so pleasing to look at.
I just got a Kawasaki eliminator 500/450 and love it. I've always wanted a Honda Rebel but I ended up getting this! My first mods were exactly those you mentioned too. Windshield and saddlebags/rear bag. And an exhaust and tail tidy of course.
Same with me, i was always looking at the rebel for a long time until the time i can buy a bike, and then thats exactly the time eliminator was released on my country , i tested both bikes, but even when i saw the eliminator at first, i already know its what im going to buy. It feels more bigger, and also the mods u want forntge rebel are already in the elim se.. and with lower overall price... So yeah kawasaki wins for me
I'm biased but I love my Honda Rebel 500. I got a limited edition color that only came on the 2017's so its a lot more unique than the others on the market. I'm 5'0" with a 28" inseam so the seat on the Rebel made it an easy choice. I actually put a windscreen on the Rebel but took it off just a few months later because I didn't like how the wind deflected. I'm a beginner to the streets but I've been riding for a few years. The Rebel 500 is the perfect size to get up and go, or cruise the freeway, though sometimes I wish it had just a *touch* more power. Great video, Doodle!
I ride an 2017 Indian Scout 69cc. It is an absolutley fantasitc machine and also looks incredble. Not sure if Doodle has ever ridden one, but if not, she should. I have a number of bikes, Including Harley Ultra Limited, Victory Vision and Harley Softail Hertige. For all around riding, Ill take my Scout any day. Great for short legged riders.
I worked at a dealership and absolutely fell in love with this bike. Definitely recommend it over the rebel 300 or 500. The only reason I ended up with a rebel was because we got 2024 DCT 1100 on trade so I snatched it up at a steal
I have just purchased a Honda Fury after you Americans sang its praises I've had a savage and a 1400 intruder and now I have the love of my life. The Fury is incredible ❤❤❤ I love it
Great video !!! enjoy all your videos. I started with the honda Rebel 500 and it was such an amazing bike. You said something that I experienced, no one told me about how important a windscreen or fairing is for long trips. Going out with my friends, I was getting wrecked by the wind so hard, oh and the small tank had me be the one stopping all the time for gas. lol. My next bike had a fairing to protect from the wind. I always share that with new riders who want bikes with no wind protection.
And everyone still forgets the v-twin cruiser Vstar 250, which retails for 4700-5400. Top speed 84mph, 5-speed manual gearbox, 249cc engine, and gets up to 78mpg. Similarly sized to the sportster 883 and Indian scout, handles easily and very confidence inspiring, with a 25" seat height. Weighs in at 330lbs Similar styling to the pre-2016 hknda rebels, as well as the Suzuki GS250. Only downside to the vstar 250 is the fact that, like the older rebels and the gs250, there's no aftermarket accessories for direct fitment such as bags and windshields.
One downside is that as the engine is 249cc. Many interstates are posted that that motorcycles under 250cc are prohibited, while I have never heard of someone on a "nominal 250" which is actually a few ccs smaller being pulled over, an a-hole cop could.
I wanted a Honda Rebel for 15 years and I’m finally able to get into motorcycling and I changed my mind. Getting an Eliminator tomorrow! I’m so excited 😁😁
I recently bought a Honda Rebel 500 as my first bike and I couldn’t be more happy. Very convenient, easy to handle and absolutely gorgeous. Imo it looks more premium compared to the Eliminator and more like a cruiser as well. And the Honda Rebel community is just amazing. ❤
As much as I was impressed with this bike, I really an glad I went with the Vulcan S. All of my bigger on-road bikes have been middleweight motorcycles; 600 cc and upwards displacement. You are right about the windscreen. Most of my commute last year was at slower speeds but at a larger distance from the job, I have to be on high speed roads to get there in the morning starting this season. 60+ almost all of the way. I added a Puig Naked New Generation touring (higher) windscreen. It made a big difference in comfort at high speed cruising. I have a few different tank bags and a backpack. I prefer using the tank bag most of the time. Like most cruisers, there's a nice flat surface for the magnets to stick to. I don't use the collar ring connector type. Thanks for your outlook. That's why I subscribed.
@BobTaylorCruising i had an option between the vulcan s and rebel and I went with the vulcan without question. I actually really enjoyed the eco fit that they provide. The bike i got was used but with all the extra bells and whistles like detachable windscreen was really what sold it for me. Been only riding for 6 months but I got used to riding her quick. I know I'm going to keep my vulcan for a lot longer before my next bike because of how much more versatile it is, and compatible with my lifestyle.
Yeah, the Vulcan S wins over the Eliminator for a number of reasons. Biggest one is comfort with legs forward. 2nd is more power for dodging idiots in their 4wheelers. (retired semi driver)
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle The two bikes have similarities. Both are cruiser layouts in being long with a low seat. The Eliminator has mid foot controls and the Vulcan S has forward foot controls. You've ridden plenty of cruisers so the layout should be familiar. The Vulcan produces more power and torque as its a higher displacement machine. The Vulcan S weighs more at a minimum of 492 lbs. fully provisioned. Both use parallel twin, 180 degree crank engines as made back in the 1960's on but liquid cooled and with fuel injection. The Vulcan S has an analogue tachometer with a very simple monochrome LCD display, There is a fuel gauge and two trip meters on both. Riding the bike surprised me. I've made some extreme corners on the Vulcan without dragging pegs or other bits on the road. Handing is lighter than typical for a cruiser and curvy roads are more fun than I expected. It's not a bad bike for new riders mostly because it's very easy to ride. It's stable at high speeds and heavy enough to feel planted on interstates. Handling is good and the supplied tires, sport touring tires, are a good choice for the bike. I think that Kawasaki was aiming at both newer riders and older guys like me. It makes a fine commuter bike and a decent short trip motorcycle. It's a fine cruiser. It excels at day trips and just bopping around. I use mine to find new county roads I've never been on. My wife tolerates it as a "hobby". Life is good!
My gf loves the bike, still pretty new to ridding, but she can drive her way around the bike, she she's like 5'0 '1ish haha still working to develop her core and leg strenght really good for ridding and helps to control the bike a lot! Love the vid!
riding a Rebel 500 for 4 years now, all good less the uncomfortable seats, and also a bit too low for me - motor great and great look - i would go for an Eliminater for a change, but it needed to be an 800-900, 500's are rather small now after having some experience
I own a Honda Rebel 1100T, and I must say that it’s been the best riding experience for me so far. I did sit on the Eliminator, but decided to purchase the Rebel for its power, seating height and features. That being said, the Eliminator is a great option as well, and I don’t think folks will be disappointed.
Back in the day when I first started riding there were no such categories as naked, or adventure, or .... They were all just bikes. There were dirt bikes, and there were road bikes. The vast majority of them had no screens at all, except for some of that really fancy stuff from Europe. I was well into my 20's before I managed to purchase a GS1000s (Wes Cooley), it was the first bike I had with a screen. I've had many many bikes since, some with screen, some without, have ridden many long distances on both. But I love our FJR, it has a lovely national cycles v-stream screen. Age, well, 60 is in the rear vision mirror is all I'm sayin'
LOL @you explaining what 'naked' meant. :) As for the Honda Rebel ....I don't think they have anything to worry about right now. Thanks for posting/sharing this. Cheers!
I have nearly 50,000 miles on my TU250x. I’ve owned a dozen bikes over the years, and the TUx is by far the most flexible and useful of the bunch. It reminds me a lot of the 1970’s bikes that I grew up with: simple, practical, multi-purpose, and inexpensive to own ($50 insurance, 80 mpg). I can do an entire tune up (oil change, valve adjustment, chain adjustment) in about an hour. My wife have even used it for 2 up week long camping trips where we rode 1200+ miles. It’s been a great bike for us, and I’ll be truly sad when it finally wears out. I am also looking at the W230 and Classic 350, but I doubt either will suit me as well as the TUx.
I’m definitely a fan and I have enjoyed watching you grow and become more experienced, especially as a former successful RUclips content creator and successful channel provider I enjoy your videos. This was a great video but you could have talked about the Honda Rebel a little better. I own a 2023 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT with a front fairing and hard saddle bags stock from Honda factory. It’s an awesome bike and I’m giving to my son as first bike. I would continue to ride it, but I’m 6 feet tall and my legs are just a little long. It would be nice to have forward foot controls on it which I thought of adding to it but I ended up buying a 2024 Harley Davidson softail heritage classic. I also own a 2023 Honda Goldwing 1100 and I also have a 2024 Honda Africa, twin ADV fully sport adventure bike. I’m a big fan of yours and I really like your channel. If you’re ever out here in Hollywood, we could do some nice rides in Malibu Santa Barbara. You could roll with our club Bad Boyz MC. I would also invite you to the Magic Castle. I am a performing member there. Take care and thank you for your channel and thank you for all the voodoo that you do❤❤😊😊
I really like the profile of the Eliminator. I love the Rebel for what it is, but the high backbone of the new models just never did it for me. It looks like a fun little stomp around bike.
Buy the Honda Rebel. But the timeless old Classic version of the Honda Rebel... years 1985-1987, 1996-1997, 1999-2016 not whatever stuff this new junk is with the Honda Rebel name on it. Probably an okay bike in its own right, but it should have gotten it's own name, and not k.o.ed an iconic legend. I paid 500 bucks for my 1985 Rebel back around 2004, restored it, and it made me fall in love with motorcycling mainly for the 60mpg. I still have it 20 years later and it still runs and is a blast to drive. Light, flicable, fun, cheap, easy to work on and maintain. Not fun on the interstate or in a city, so you move on to bigger, heavier bikes which are nowhere near fun to drive.
Love the Rebel 1100, for a different reason than most probably. Since my left ankle is nearly immobile, the Honda DCT bikes give me the opportunity to ride again. Since they're the only major company that made it possible, I'll be staying with Honda, even if other companies start making models with DCT as well.
A 125 CC scooter will get you to 55 mph. They are not too much bigger than a Navi but have more storage and are quicker. Two-hundred CC and 300 CC scooters can go 60+ mph and have all of the benefits of the smaller ones (except they weigh more).
I wish motorcycle advertisers would stop showing their motorcycle riders wearing athletic shoes. I see Doodle wears actual motorcycle apparel such as jackets and boots. But these advertisers show a particular bike and the rider is wearing casual shoes or athletic shoes as if they are going to the gym. You get involved in a crash and those shoes are NOT going to allow you to walk away from a collision.
I had a Honda Rebel 500 for three years and I really liked it. Great bike and easy to ride. However, the seat height was a bit too low for me (I'm 1.81m) and I also discovered that going off-road can be a lot of fun, so I changed it for one of the last old model Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 which was still for sale. I'm super happy with the Royal Enfield. Once I sat on a Kawasaki Eliminator and it felt very similar to the Rebel. It felt like it had a slightly higher seat height as the Rebel but not very much.
Honestly I'd take the RE Hunter, it's an absolutely adorable and fun bike. I already have two bikes but I still sorta want a Hunter. But I have zero interests in cruisers, having owned one they're super uncomfortable to me.
I remember my 1st bikes.... minibike, Suzuki moped w/leg fairing, Sears 106 then a Honda 450 CL scrambler, none had a gas gauge but they did have a speedo and a high beam indicator,, man those were the days!!!! LOL Thanks Doodle!!!!
I’ve owned my 24 eliminator SE Abs for a little under a year and as a newer rider I love this little light weight bike. Not gonna lie it was a toss up for me between the rebel and the eliminator and I went with the kawi because of the color
Rebel has one thing going for it - DCT - I have messed up legs, shifting is very difficult/painful. I'm planning on getting Rebel DCT and have the rear brake moved to the handlebars as well. Although I am mildly concerned about comfort / height. I have the opposite problem to most. Most bikes are too short, too small for me.
I'm a newer rider (about 3.5 years into it) and I ended up getting an Indian Scout as my first bike. I was very pleased with that option but the Honda probably would have been Door # 2.
I agree, if I could afford it there are 3 bikes I'd own, the Kawasaki Eliminator, the Royal Enfield Classic 350, and a Triumph 400 scrambler. Then I would be a happy man.
The first 100% street bike I ever owned (not counting street legal dirt bikes), had a wind screen. It was a Suzuki Intruder Volusia. Same as the Suzuki Boulevard C50T in today's lineup. I've only owned bikes since then with wind screens or full fairings with one exception. I went out and bought a Low Rider S a couple of years ago for a second bike. I only kept it for 6 months and partly because I prefer the ride with the wind protection.
I had sat on a Eliminator before from a dealership, because I wanna Know what bike would be suited for me when it comes to seat height I'm 5'1, its a lil heavy for me but Man I Love Eliminator.
Wish I knew it before. Bought 2024 Rebel 500 last month. Now looking for a touring screen that fit in this model. Tried Puig screen but didn't fit in 2024 model. Screw seems different.
Finally you mention your old Suzuki Boulevard S40! Do you miss it at all? I just got one and am really enjoying the bike. Great price and good power. Louder than I would like but the price and simplicity of the bike is awesome. Thanks for the entertaining vids
I like the look of the Eliminator. And, i have always liked Kawasaki bikes. But, the Eliminator felt very similar to the Honda Rebel. I ended up buying a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 instead. It just was a more comfortable motorcycle for me.
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Doodle my wife is 4'10.5" and picked the Rebel 300 ABS strictly for the shorter seat height and the lighter weight. This is her first bike at 50+ years old and was motivated by your videos. Thank you for doing what I have been unable to do and that is motivating her to ride a motorcycle.
Congrats to you both!!
Same I’m 4’10 and getting a Rebel.
The Kawasaki Vulcan S is an amazing bike for shorter riders as well.
A good friend of mine who is also sub-5-foot just picked up a Rebel, same reason. I didn't even know she was interested but she just surprised everyone. I told her it was a fantastic choice, especially since it's super low miles, looks showroom, and she got it for almost nothing.
@@Molly_Belle go head get 500
I feel like naked bikes are quite good for a first ride. Mine was naked and it lets you know exactly how fast you're really traveling at any given time by not shielding you from the wind. I believe some new riders need that reality check.
Personally I feel you are right to some degree. I however have gone far faster than "most" people would ever dare to and the fairings and sport screens when you are tucked nearly eliminates that until you break like 180. I noticed when I sat up @ 185 my speed dropped crazily fast kinda like an aircraft air brake. Fun times but I been riding since 1978, and my first 2 bikes were naked. Didn't stop me from reaching full acceleration but 130 is nowhere near 180+.
Good point!
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I got the Eliminator in August of '23 and love it so much! I added a windshield, a luggage rack and top case, and soft pannier support. I only use the panniers when I go camping. So far I've put 6800+ miles on it, mostly commuting to work from Rutherford County, NC to Charlotte - around 65 miles one way. I also just rode it to Shenandoa via the BRP in early September and learned some HARD lessons. I've been riding for 14 months and this was my first long distance trip. I made the trip in two 8 hour stints and one overnight. It was utterly painful. Coming back, I broke it into 2 overnights with 4-5 hours of riding per day and it was much nicer. I understand why touring bikes are so big. The bike isn't intended for that kind of riding but it did it like a champ loaded with 50-60lbs of gear and got around 60-62mpg. I really hope to pick up a Versys in the next year or 2, keeping the Eliminator for shorter rides on back country roads and around town. I'm 5'1" with a 28" inseam and can't flatfoot, but the balls of my feet are solidly on the ground. I have considered getting the taller seat so I can start shifting to one side or the other to have one foot down at a time for when I get the Versys.
The thing is, that everybody, including me thought that Eliminator is cruiser. I own Vulcan s650 cafe and the other day i went to dealreship to have some check on it, and they offered me a test ride on Eliminator. I asked, why even bothering creating Eliminator 500 while having already Vulcan S 650 on the market. The dealer told me that i should check it out myself and oh boy! That was a lot of fun. Nimble, swift, great for thight maneuvers. Nothing, literally nothing like cruiser. It felt more like a naked bike and it was awesome!
True, this Eliminator is "nothing like a cruiser," except that it's appropriate for shorter riders.
"Cafe" is not a class of motorcycle; it's a style.
And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike.
The "S" in Vulcan S makes all the difference. Vulcan S is a naked bike that identifies as a cruiser (and marketed as such). The differently tuned engine is still the z650 engine at its heart, it's happy around 6-8k rpm, you can hear it sing. It's light enough to be fun, and if I have had a little too much fun I can bring it back upright just by the handlebars, no need to "walk it back". We chose it over the rebel for my wife when she just started riding, she likes it, and I steal it every now and then.
Oh, and "cafe" is one of 3 trims for Vulcan S, after "base" and "abs". Weirdly, the more expensive "cafe" does not have ABS, but it has a bit more fancy paint scheme instead...
@@Marsh.x _And the Vulcan is a Cruiser, and so is the Eliminator. It's literally marketed by Kawasaki as a "Cruiser" class bike._
That depends on what's meant by "cruiser". It's only a cruiser in that it's not a sport bike or adventure bike or a dirt bike, in other words in the most general sense. But in the sense they mean by saying it's not a cruiser, they mean that it's lighter and smaller, it's not a larger, and in general a larger engined motorcycle, such as most of the Harleys. You are being nitpicky.
@@Marsh.x The original Eliminator was a power cruiser - a new type at the time. Long and low with a 900 CC 4 cylinder engine.
6500 miles on my Eliminator. Absolutely love it. Commute 20 miles one way daily. Half on twisty FM hiway roads and half in town. Perfect for both. Comfy, quick, nimble. Light but firmly grounded. Added a tail bag. 500 miles in 24 hours with no sore back,butt or hands
CL500 rider here. I love the simplicity of the bike and just enjoying the ride. Had a ninja back in the day and most of the focus was just on going fast and I missed the whole ride. Crashed it trying to keep up with riders who were above my skill level on twice the displacement bikes and now I just wanted a no-nonsense bike that I can just enjoy the ride itself and I love it. You meet the nicest people on a Honda :)
@@TaterRogers do the footings get in the way when you stand?
@@jamesballard6564 I've only had the CL500 (not counting small stuff) so, disclaimer, I can't compare it to other bikes. That said, the pegs kiiiind of get in the way, but it doesn't really bother me. I think it'd only be an issue if you're shorter than 5'8" (172cm).
It's the love of my life.
Actually, I've watched other videos since making this comment, and I think I was straight up wrong. It really shouldn't be an issue with any amount of very simple know-how.
Don't make comments unless you know what you're talking about 😅
@@din5ixfg Safe and enjoyable rides to you in 2025!
@@jamesballard6564 They can but I don't really notice it but I don't have a lot of hours on mine but I just widened the stance slightly and it's not been too noticable.
I went with the Rebel; hands down, no question. I loved that bike.
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@@markh.harris9271 I’m going with the rebel too. I like the looks of the rebel much more
Going with CFMoto 450 CL-C. Yeah its Chinese, but it looks a lot better than both the Rebel and eliminator to me. And, i really like the tech being on it that both Rebel and Eliminator don't have. Motorcycle brands Ignore CFMoto at your own peril. More for less!
@LastDigitOnMyScratchOffTicket , yeah, the Rebel bobber styling is superior.
@@ibewscott69 I like that 450 CL-C too and it has more the looks of the Eliminator. The japanese brands hold a very long history of reliability. CFMoto is still like a new brand. In 15 or more years, we'll see if the CFMoto bikes hold what its brand promised its users to be. Only then people will full heartedly trust it.
Loved... Past tense. So you don't own it anymore? Just how much can you love something if you then give up on it?
I love my original model SV650 and still do 24 years later. I'll never get rid of it unless it becomes unrepairable. It's never let me down yet btw.
Regarding Kawasaki's approach to gauges, your observations really resonate with me. One of the things I really love about my Z900RS is the dual analog gauges for tach and speed. There's a small concession for fuel and temperature gauges (a very barebones LCD), but it gives you only what you really need and nothing else. I haven't ever found myself wanting to fiddle with screens while riding, simply because there's nothing to fiddle with. I think for newer riders that's really important-- your focus should be up and out, not down at a dash.
For what it’s worth, I used to be the senior test rider for a motorcycle tyre brand, and would test every motorcycle by every manufacturer worldwide, every year. In my experience, Honda, as a company, test all manner of situations, scenarios, & problems far more than many other manufacturers, and as a result, in most cases, have a polished finesse of outcome most other manufacturers do not, particularly in less than desirable real world situations. As we say in England “You pays your money, & you makes your choice “. Choose wisely
I didn't buy the Honda Rebel, I instead bought a 2024 Kawasaki Z900RS SE, which I have not regretted. It is easy to ride, I sit relaxed in the saddle and it is well built. Never again a touring bike from Honda or Harley. Cheaper purchases, insurance, road tax and inspection. Ideal to go to work with as it can also fit under cover in the scooter/motorcycle garage. Sleek and useful in an urban environment, and yes, I get it, you're short and I'm tall, hence my choice. But after 6 months of ownership, I have only positive things to say about this bike. Just need to put on a Corbinsadel, and a Dash-cam then I'll probably be satisfied.
I find it interesting that bikes with a displacement of 650+ are rated as a best beginner bike...It is also interesting (as a biker of 50 years) to observe how complex and jam-packed the bike frame is. Sad to see that the opportunity for new bikers to tinker and do much of the maintenance and tuning that enriched our biking experience. Lightweight and simplicity can be a great support for a new biker.
A 600 Honda Shadow is a great starter bike. I had a 94 and rode it to Sturgis, about 900 miles from where I live. Never had to touch the engine, clutch, or carb. Sold it with 85.000 miles on it. Still ran perfect.
I’m not big on making comments as I’ve never gotten a response before. I came across your video about Honda Rebel. About what to buy.
Way back in ‘96, I was looking for my first street bike. I looked and sat on a lot of bikes. Nothing felt right until I was taken to a dealer storage area. They showed me a ‘95 Honda Magna 750. The second I sat on it I knew it was the right bike.
I really liked that bike. Unfortunately I sold it and have regretted it since. It took 20 years for my next bike. A few years ago I finally bought a ‘99 Honda Valkyrie. It just fits.
If you ever get to Texas, I would really like to go for a ride with you. I don’t do videos. I would just enjoy the ride.
"i'm never going naked on a bike again. By the way..."
LOL😂
No way did I say that?😂
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle - 🤣
What do you mean “ again”….lol
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle sim, falou sim. 🤣
Being 70 years old and ridden for many years, I have an 24 Eliminator 400. I live in Thailand and this bike is plenty big enough for here. I have owned 700cc, 1400cc Intruders, Kawasaki 900cc Ninja and started out on a Honda CB550, CB750F and V4 750F. I will say that my Eliminator is one of the funnest bikes I have owned. It will make me the best last bike that I own!
As a beginner rider who just started riding motorcycles in my late 40s, I have found your channel to be informative and indispensable for beginner riders. Please do a video on the types of tire patterns for rainy and wet conditions for daily use, especially for hotter climates.
The Rebel 500 absolutely rips. That 500cc engine is truly amazing. 50 HP. However the Kawasaki is also a cool bike. You really can't go wrong with either bike.
Try the 1100. It’s a little over 1083 cc much more power and it’s the same bike just bigger engine
@@hollywoodmagician yep. I love my 1100
@ yeah the 1100 rebel DCT is a really nice bike. I really enjoy it. I really enjoy riding it. I may put some forward foot controls if my son doesn’t end up riding it, but I hope he does. I want to start riding with me.
It's got 47 hp. The Kawasaki Vulcan 500 LTD from the 90s-2000s had almost 51 HP. Honda kept the power down for the European market restrictions on beginner licences.
I was planning on buying a Rebel 500 for my first bike, but happened across a slightly used Eliminator for a great deal. I am loving it, and plan to keep it as a commuter/in town bike I upgrade to a bigger bike.
My son is a new rider he was going to get a 2024 rebel 500 for his first bike but I suggested getting a bigger cc so he got a 2024 shadow aero 750 he has been endorsed since June and is already talking about a bigger cc bike I ride a old Vulcan 900 custom that I’ve owned since new in 07 and I love big blue and keep up the good work doodle. Love your channel.👍
My first bike was a 100cc 72 Kawasaki G4. As many teens in the 70s, we grew up wanting to be moto X stars. We spent as much time off road as possible. We fell a lot. We learned to use front brakes without washing out. This is extremely important. We learned to tuck and roll when we went down. We learned to do our own repairs. We learned in a much safer environment than on asphalt. We lost a few friends along the way which taught is to respect our bikes. I highly recommend beginners get a small off road bike before venturing into traffic. The things you learn may save your life. This is even more true today due to all the distracted drivers on the road. Stay safe and keep your head on a swivel. You never know which car plans to run you over.
Absolutely true. I started out on trail bikes, and off-road only bikes. I was amazed at how few skills guys who had only been street riders had.
New rider. I did a ton of research before buying my bike. The internet had me sold on the Eliminator. Once I had a chance to sit on one I found it too small. Bought a Z650RS instead.
I own the Rebel 1100. Such a good bike. Fits me, being a shorter sized Female. The 1100 provide enough power for me. I also own an old school RE Himalayan 411 to fit my other needs when going on gravel roads. Tried the Kawasaki Vulcan S but this felt too small for me compared to my then so dearly missed Kawasaki ’Old School)’ VN 800.
I have a Harley Street Bob for my longer rides, but I have held on to my 2000 Vulcan 800 Classic that still looks and runs good as new, and I love riding that bike over the Harley most of the time.
I need to practice riding with your kind of enthusiasm, do 30 days of figure 8's, and so on. I love both Kawasaki and Honda, and the Eliminator is so pleasing to look at.
I just got a Kawasaki eliminator 500/450 and love it. I've always wanted a Honda Rebel but I ended up getting this! My first mods were exactly those you mentioned too. Windshield and saddlebags/rear bag. And an exhaust and tail tidy of course.
Same with me, i was always looking at the rebel for a long time until the time i can buy a bike, and then thats exactly the time eliminator was released on my country , i tested both bikes, but even when i saw the eliminator at first, i already know its what im going to buy.
It feels more bigger, and also the mods u want forntge rebel are already in the elim se.. and with lower overall price...
So yeah kawasaki wins for me
I'm biased but I love my Honda Rebel 500. I got a limited edition color that only came on the 2017's so its a lot more unique than the others on the market. I'm 5'0" with a 28" inseam so the seat on the Rebel made it an easy choice. I actually put a windscreen on the Rebel but took it off just a few months later because I didn't like how the wind deflected.
I'm a beginner to the streets but I've been riding for a few years. The Rebel 500 is the perfect size to get up and go, or cruise the freeway, though sometimes I wish it had just a *touch* more power.
Great video, Doodle!
Just started riding about a month ago, I went with 1998 Honda VT750 Shadow Ace Deluxe as my first bike. I love it!!
I ride an 2017 Indian Scout 69cc. It is an absolutley fantasitc machine and also looks incredble. Not sure if Doodle has ever ridden one, but if not, she should. I have a number of bikes, Including Harley Ultra Limited, Victory Vision and Harley Softail Hertige. For all around riding, Ill take my Scout any day. Great for short legged riders.
I love the simplicity of the bike
I worked at a dealership and absolutely fell in love with this bike. Definitely recommend it over the rebel 300 or 500. The only reason I ended up with a rebel was because we got 2024 DCT 1100 on trade so I snatched it up at a steal
I have just purchased a Honda Fury after you Americans sang its praises I've had a savage and a 1400 intruder and now I have the love of my life. The Fury is incredible ❤❤❤ I love it
I'm kind of surprised Honda is still building that "chopper-style" model.
@@kenhoward3512 That engine has a great reputation. If you've got the money, the Fury is pretty. It's just too expensive for what it is.
Great video !!! enjoy all your videos. I started with the honda Rebel 500 and it was such an amazing bike. You said something that I experienced, no one told me about how important a windscreen or fairing is for long trips. Going out with my friends, I was getting wrecked by the wind so hard, oh and the small tank had me be the one stopping all the time for gas. lol. My next bike had a fairing to protect from the wind. I always share that with new riders who want bikes with no wind protection.
I got the RE hunter 350!!!! you're an inspiration. I got 10K miles in my first 9 months
And everyone still forgets the v-twin cruiser Vstar 250, which retails for 4700-5400. Top speed 84mph, 5-speed manual gearbox, 249cc engine, and gets up to 78mpg. Similarly sized to the sportster 883 and Indian scout, handles easily and very confidence inspiring, with a 25" seat height.
Weighs in at 330lbs
Similar styling to the pre-2016 hknda rebels, as well as the Suzuki GS250.
Only downside to the vstar 250 is the fact that, like the older rebels and the gs250, there's no aftermarket accessories for direct fitment such as bags and windshields.
One downside is that as the engine is 249cc. Many interstates are posted that that motorcycles under 250cc are prohibited, while I have never heard of someone on a "nominal 250" which is actually a few ccs smaller being pulled over, an a-hole cop could.
I wanted a Honda Rebel for 15 years and I’m finally able to get into motorcycling and I changed my mind. Getting an Eliminator tomorrow! I’m so excited 😁😁
Congratulations on your new bike.
good choice , honda quality has been spiraling down for the last decade
I love your first bike, it was so clean and vintage looking I'd have to keep it
I recently bought a Honda Rebel 500 as my first bike and I couldn’t be more happy. Very convenient, easy to handle and absolutely gorgeous. Imo it looks more premium compared to the Eliminator and more like a cruiser as well. And the Honda Rebel community is just amazing. ❤
As much as I was impressed with this bike, I really an glad I went with the Vulcan S. All of my bigger on-road bikes have been middleweight motorcycles; 600 cc and upwards displacement.
You are right about the windscreen. Most of my commute last year was at slower speeds but at a larger distance from the job, I have to be on high speed roads to get there in the morning starting this season. 60+ almost all of the way. I added a Puig Naked New Generation touring (higher) windscreen. It made a big difference in comfort at high speed cruising.
I have a few different tank bags and a backpack. I prefer using the tank bag most of the time. Like most cruisers, there's a nice flat surface for the magnets to stick to. I don't use the collar ring connector type.
Thanks for your outlook. That's why I subscribed.
@BobTaylorCruising i had an option between the vulcan s and rebel and I went with the vulcan without question. I actually really enjoyed the eco fit that they provide. The bike i got was used but with all the extra bells and whistles like detachable windscreen was really what sold it for me. Been only riding for 6 months but I got used to riding her quick. I know I'm going to keep my vulcan for a lot longer before my next bike because of how much more versatile it is, and compatible with my lifestyle.
Yeah, the Vulcan S wins over the Eliminator for a number of reasons. Biggest one is comfort with legs forward. 2nd is more power for dodging idiots in their 4wheelers. (retired semi driver)
I gotta find me a Vulcan S to ride!!
@@DoodleOnAMotorcycle The two bikes have similarities. Both are cruiser layouts in being long with a low seat. The Eliminator has mid foot controls and the Vulcan S has forward foot controls. You've ridden plenty of cruisers so the layout should be familiar. The Vulcan produces more power and torque as its a higher displacement machine. The Vulcan S weighs more at a minimum of 492 lbs. fully provisioned. Both use parallel twin, 180 degree crank engines as made back in the 1960's on but liquid cooled and with fuel injection. The Vulcan S has an analogue tachometer with a very simple monochrome LCD display, There is a fuel gauge and two trip meters on both.
Riding the bike surprised me. I've made some extreme corners on the Vulcan without dragging pegs or other bits on the road. Handing is lighter than typical for a cruiser and curvy roads are more fun than I expected. It's not a bad bike for new riders mostly because it's very easy to ride. It's stable at high speeds and heavy enough to feel planted on interstates. Handling is good and the supplied tires, sport touring tires, are a good choice for the bike.
I think that Kawasaki was aiming at both newer riders and older guys like me. It makes a fine commuter bike and a decent short trip motorcycle. It's a fine cruiser. It excels at day trips and just bopping around. I use mine to find new county roads I've never been on. My wife tolerates it as a "hobby". Life is good!
My gf loves the bike, still pretty new to ridding, but she can drive her way around the bike, she she's like 5'0 '1ish haha still working to develop her core and leg strenght really good for ridding and helps to control the bike a lot! Love the vid!
That orange one is gorgeous in-person.
Got the eliminator for my first street bike, and I love it. 😎
riding a Rebel 500 for 4 years now, all good less the uncomfortable seats, and also a bit too low for me - motor great and great look - i would go for an Eliminater for a change, but it needed to be an 800-900, 500's are rather small now after having some experience
I own a Honda Rebel 1100T, and I must say that it’s been the best riding experience for me so far. I did sit on the Eliminator, but decided to purchase the Rebel for its power, seating height and features. That being said, the Eliminator is a great option as well, and I don’t think folks will be disappointed.
I bought a new 2023 Rebel 1100 DCT in July 2023 and I love it! I am a new rider too! Videos are posted on my channel!!
Back in the day when I first started riding there were no such categories as naked, or adventure, or .... They were all just bikes. There were dirt bikes, and there were road bikes. The vast majority of them had no screens at all, except for some of that really fancy stuff from Europe. I was well into my 20's before I managed to purchase a GS1000s (Wes Cooley), it was the first bike I had with a screen. I've had many many bikes since, some with screen, some without, have ridden many long distances on both. But I love our FJR, it has a lovely national cycles v-stream screen. Age, well, 60 is in the rear vision mirror is all I'm sayin'
Good video! The more capable starter bikes out there in the market, the more likely we'll see more beginning riders. Win-win!
73k miles on my Rebel 500, and still on the original battery. The goal is 100k miles, it was $4,900 and $6,200 out the door new.
LOL @you explaining what 'naked' meant. :)
As for the Honda Rebel ....I don't think they have anything to worry about right now. Thanks for posting/sharing this. Cheers!
Until they dropped it, I called the Suzuki TU250x as the perfect beginner bike. Now I call the Kawasaki W230/Royal Enfield 350 Classic.
I have nearly 50,000 miles on my TU250x. I’ve owned a dozen bikes over the years, and the TUx is by far the most flexible and useful of the bunch. It reminds me a lot of the 1970’s bikes that I grew up with: simple, practical, multi-purpose, and inexpensive to own ($50 insurance, 80 mpg). I can do an entire tune up (oil change, valve adjustment, chain adjustment) in about an hour. My wife have even used it for 2 up week long camping trips where we rode 1200+ miles. It’s been a great bike for us, and I’ll be truly sad when it finally wears out. I am also looking at the W230 and Classic 350, but I doubt either will suit me as well as the TUx.
I call it an alternative rather than a replacement.
Another one, and cheaper too,it is the Royal Enfield Meteor 350.
Back when I began riding, I skipped right over the Rebel for a used 750 Shadow Aero.
So many cool motorcycles for beginners. Please tell them to bring the 900 eliminator back please 🙏
I’m definitely a fan and I have enjoyed watching you grow and become more experienced, especially as a former successful RUclips content creator and successful channel provider I enjoy your videos. This was a great video but you could have talked about the Honda Rebel a little better. I own a 2023 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT with a front fairing and hard saddle bags stock from Honda factory. It’s an awesome bike and I’m giving to my son as first bike. I would continue to ride it, but I’m 6 feet tall and my legs are just a little long. It would be nice to have forward foot controls on it which I thought of adding to it but I ended up buying a 2024 Harley Davidson softail heritage classic. I also own a 2023 Honda Goldwing 1100 and I also have a 2024 Honda Africa, twin ADV fully sport adventure bike. I’m a big fan of yours and I really like your channel. If you’re ever out here in Hollywood, we could do some nice rides in Malibu Santa Barbara. You could roll with our club Bad Boyz MC. I would also invite you to the Magic Castle. I am a performing member there. Take care and thank you for your channel and thank you for all the voodoo that you do❤❤😊😊
Give the Vulcan 650 S a go. It’s worth it.
I love my Rebel 1100. It is my first bike and will keep it as long as the motor runs which should be forever.
My Harley Sportster has a nice simple dash. One analog speedo, with an lcd window to display two trip odos, tachometer, clock, or total mileage.
I really like the profile of the Eliminator. I love the Rebel for what it is, but the high backbone of the new models just never did it for me.
It looks like a fun little stomp around bike.
I personally would get a Yamaha bolt instead but the new eliminator is honestly cool looking comparing the previous models
I would the Kawa over the Rebel any day. I ended up with a Triumph Speed 400, and I love it, even though I had some issues at first.
Rebel is a great reliable first bike. The R3, mt03, vstar 250 also good options
Love your videos. I was sold on the rebel 1100. Wife has the 500.
But this was the other bike we were looking into.
Nice that you spend time on affordable motorcycles 🙏👍🏻
Buy the Honda Rebel.
But the timeless old Classic version of the Honda Rebel... years 1985-1987, 1996-1997, 1999-2016
not whatever stuff this new junk is with the Honda Rebel name on it.
Probably an okay bike in its own right, but it should have gotten it's own name, and not k.o.ed an iconic legend.
I paid 500 bucks for my 1985 Rebel back around 2004, restored it, and it made me fall in love with motorcycling mainly for the 60mpg. I still have it 20 years later and it still runs and is a blast to drive. Light, flicable, fun, cheap, easy to work on and maintain. Not fun on the interstate or in a city, so you move on to bigger, heavier bikes which are nowhere near fun to drive.
Love the Rebel 1100, for a different reason than most probably.
Since my left ankle is nearly immobile, the Honda DCT bikes give me the opportunity to ride again. Since they're the only major company that made it possible, I'll be staying with Honda, even if other companies start making models with DCT as well.
Try the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650 once. Love from India❤
Love the Rebel and prefer that all day long. Such a fun bike to ride!!
I tried the Rebel for my first as well but it was just soooo heavy. Trying a Navi right now and love not worrying about a clutch.
A 125 CC scooter will get you to 55 mph. They are not too much bigger than a Navi but have more storage and are quicker. Two-hundred CC and 300 CC scooters can go 60+ mph and have all of the benefits of the smaller ones (except they weigh more).
I wish motorcycle advertisers would stop showing their motorcycle riders wearing athletic shoes. I see Doodle wears actual motorcycle apparel such as jackets and boots. But these advertisers show a particular bike and the rider is wearing casual shoes or athletic shoes as if they are going to the gym. You get involved in a crash and those shoes are NOT going to allow you to walk away from a collision.
I had a Honda Rebel 500 for three years and I really liked it. Great bike and easy to ride. However, the seat height was a bit too low for me (I'm 1.81m) and I also discovered that going off-road can be a lot of fun, so I changed it for one of the last old model Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 which was still for sale. I'm super happy with the Royal Enfield. Once I sat on a Kawasaki Eliminator and it felt very similar to the Rebel. It felt like it had a slightly higher seat height as the Rebel but not very much.
Love hearing your outlook and informative opinions! 👍👍
Honestly I'd take the RE Hunter, it's an absolutely adorable and fun bike. I already have two bikes but I still sorta want a Hunter. But I have zero interests in cruisers, having owned one they're super uncomfortable to me.
Great review, Doodle! Would love to see you get back to doing bike reviews on a regular basis.
You are VERY good at comparison vids. More more!!!
A great, informative video once again, Doodle. Keep it up, and as always, keep it upright.
I remember my 1st bikes.... minibike, Suzuki moped w/leg fairing, Sears 106 then a Honda 450 CL scrambler, none had a gas gauge but they did have a speedo and a high beam indicator,, man those were the days!!!! LOL Thanks Doodle!!!!
Great post about a different beginner choice!
I’ve owned my 24 eliminator SE Abs for a little under a year and as a newer rider I love this little light weight bike. Not gonna lie it was a toss up for me between the rebel and the eliminator and I went with the kawi because of the color
Rebel has one thing going for it - DCT - I have messed up legs, shifting is very difficult/painful. I'm planning on getting Rebel DCT and have the rear brake moved to the handlebars as well. Although I am mildly concerned about comfort / height. I have the opposite problem to most. Most bikes are too short, too small for me.
I'm a newer rider (about 3.5 years into it) and I ended up getting an Indian Scout as my first bike. I was very pleased with that option but the Honda probably would have been Door # 2.
Honda Rebel looks sick. If I have an option to buy I would go for Honda Rebel all day
I'll buy what I want, thanks.
That orange one looks amazing
Great to hear that competition is still alive and well in entry level bikes. It will lead to some great advancements for new riders.
Rebel has a distinct appeal that makes a big difference🫣🤣
Thanks for all those super practical tips!
Your first was my first. The S40 was a great first bike!
Unfortunately, perfect bike does not exist. If you want a versatile bike, you need to buy at least three of them.
I agree, if I could afford it there are 3 bikes I'd own, the Kawasaki Eliminator, the Royal Enfield Classic 350, and a Triumph 400 scrambler. Then I would be a happy man.
The Suzuki LS650 is cool. And the old Eleminator or Rebel Looks cool
The first 100% street bike I ever owned (not counting street legal dirt bikes), had a wind screen. It was a Suzuki Intruder Volusia. Same as the Suzuki Boulevard C50T in today's lineup. I've only owned bikes since then with wind screens or full fairings with one exception. I went out and bought a Low Rider S a couple of years ago for a second bike. I only kept it for 6 months and partly because I prefer the ride with the wind protection.
Regardless of price. I'd still go for the Rebel. I like the overall look better
You helped me decide.
Thanks Sis
I had sat on a Eliminator before from a dealership, because I wanna Know what bike would be suited for me when it comes to seat height I'm 5'1, its a lil heavy for me but Man I Love Eliminator.
Wish I knew it before. Bought 2024 Rebel 500 last month. Now looking for a touring screen that fit in this model. Tried Puig screen but didn't fit in 2024 model. Screw seems different.
What a brilliant review. So I subscribed. :) Cheers from New Zealand.
Finally you mention your old Suzuki Boulevard S40! Do you miss it at all? I just got one and am really enjoying the bike. Great price and good power. Louder than I would like but the price and simplicity of the bike is awesome. Thanks for the entertaining vids
My 2020 with 48,000km is so cool & handsome ...Honda Rebel 500 is still the best!
Very nice video good advice for new riders thanks again for sharing your knowledge
I just find the sit-up-and-beg look of the Rebel unsightly, as well.
I like the look of the Eliminator. And, i have always liked Kawasaki bikes. But, the Eliminator felt very similar to the Honda Rebel. I ended up buying a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 instead. It just was a more comfortable motorcycle for me.
The eliminator (250 cc) that was used in the basic skills course I took was pretty short for a 6 footer. I love the style of the Eliminator though.