Young Thug Engineer Alex Tumay on Recording | Red Bull Music Academy
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2016
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Nobody knows prolific and mercurial Atlanta rapper Young Thug quite like audio engineer Alex Tumay.
In his Studio Science at the 2016 Red Bull Music Academy, Tumay discusses how he finished up Young Thug’s JEFFERY in an Uber, “Ocean Drive” and much more.
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The Queens, NY, native has been the only professional able to keep up with the talented rapper, harnessing his abilities on the Slime Season trilogy of mixtapes, I’m Up and JEFFERY. An unheralded yet essential presence on a number of pivotal Atlanta hip-hop albums, Tumay has also worked with 21 Savage & Metro Boomin’s “Ocean Drive,” Travis Scott on Rodeo and lent his ear to the track “Highlights” from Kanye West’s The Life of Pablo.
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0:01 - Alex breaks down a track recorded by participants at the 2016 Red Bull Music Academy
6:24 - 21 Savage
12:54 - Finishing up Young Thug's "JEFFERY" on an Uber ride through Manhattan
15:40 - Demo-itis
16:58 - Young Thug - "Best Friend"
20:20 - Recording TLC
25:39 - Microphone Suggestions
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I interned at a major studio in Atlanta when Young Thug was recording Thugger Girls, Alex was there a lot of the time and he was really cool. He gives back a lot. Insane experience altogether for me. Even saw Future pull up in his convertible black Lambo. Can't believe I was in the middle of all that now that I think about it. Grateful for it all.
did you learn anything recording-wse/mix wise that you'd like to share?
BingBongRockety I asked him what was the best mixing advice overall he could share with me and he told me to start mixing my friend’s projects for free. Mix anything I can get my hands on. Which turned out to be true because the only way you can become a professional is to have hundreds, eventually thousands, of projects under your belt. Good advice. I didn’t mix anyone’s projects for free but I did start my prices out very low, gradually raising my hourly rate by $5.
@@SetMeFree thanks man, i been mixing so much shit lately, just waching videos and shit, i did a 18 track project in like a day but it was very fun and i think i am actually getting better. you have any place i can talk to you maybe you can talk to me, teach me some stuff.
@@BingBongRockety yeah my instagram is @ dustybrogdon. I can tell you what I know. It's crazy how good you can get using just the stock plugins. Every once in a while, I'll open a project from 2-3 years ago and I'll see how drastic my vocal chain has changed, not so much the plugins but how I set them. Over time, as your ear gets used to the room your in, you'll make little micro-adjustments to your EQ or compressor and it'll make all the difference in the world. I remember at one point Joey Sturgis wouldn't show his vocal EQ because he wanted his students to figure out their own settings. I've been recording as a job for 3 years and I still feel like I'm trash compared to the GOATS but everybody in my town comes to me and they swear up and down I got the juice, haha. You really just gotta be recording people or mixing (FINISHING PROJECTS) to become a beast.
When I was interning and met Alex, I was ASS as an engineer but I've always been a good songwriter.
12:57 he talks about the Jeffrey album
Goated
ily
Godly for this
🐐
Thank god that’s all I came here for 💯
When he mentioned lowering the beat instead of the raising the vocals. Holy shit what a common mistake between engineers AND producers. People always counteract quietness by raising levels instead of dropping them. THANK YOU ALEX FROM THE PAST
Ive always done that😂cause of clipping
"I'm not afraid of compression, I'm just not the biggest fan" - dude who put 5 compressors on his mix buss
😂😂😂😂
🤣
he means heavy compression goofy. the whole lecture is about never doing too much.
LMFAO!!!!
Lmao😂😂
Here is his mastering chain :
Slate Digital SSLComp
Slate Digital FG-GREY
Slate Digital virtual tapes machine
Slate Digital Virtual Mixbuss
Waves S1 Stereo Imager
Slate Digital FGX
My nigga
waves sslcomp*
Victor Malvolti thank you
THANK YOU
missed the L3
Mastering Chain is as follows:
1. Waves SSL G-Master Buss Compressor
2. Slate Digital Buss Compressor (FG-Grey)
3. Slate Digital Virtual Tape Machine
4. Slate Digital Virtual Mix Buss (Virtual Console Collection)
5. Waves L3 Multimaximizer
6. Waves S1 Stereo Imager
7. Slate Digital FG-X Mastering Processor
I didn't even notice him saying like, was too busy hearing what he had to say about mixing tracks and working with clients.
He forgot about his all time favorite plugin, CLA VOCALS.
fax
Alex 'CLA' Tumay
CLA vocals is nice for quick mixes tbh, when I don’t want to put in all the work for perfection lol, just the general idea
"Dropbox is full" -- even professionals feeling that struggle
Patrick Wilkie HA
This shit really is an art in itself
yes it is. I'm in school for it myself and it aint no joke
Nu Black Soul im not in school for it and you probably have to play some catch up. It's all about the reps and daily hours of trial and error.
bilbo baggins I've been producing and engineering myself since 05. I taught myself everything I know( before all the RUclips tutorials), always thought engineering and producing was something out had to teach yourself, but once I found out there are schools for I checked in immediately. Though nothing is wrong with trial and error there is no replacement for knowing the actual science so you know exactly what you're doing
obviously, producers are the hardest workers much more than rappers nowadays except for like 3% of the lyrically insane
Spencer Johnson NOWWW you wanna call it an art? lololol
19:07 i shit myself
APKSRMKS HAHAHA
Hahahahahh
i will never say the word "Like" again.
Boomer 3rd eye 😂😂😂😂💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I wish I wouldn't have scrolled down.. I didn't realize how bad it was till I read your comment. Or he just bets worse as the video goes on I'm not sure..
I had a teacher in 5th grade keep me after school because I kept saying like. It took me damn near an hour before I realized I said like too much. Reading helps and pausing before you finishing your sentences.
Liked
Drove me crazy, makes this kind of hard to watch for me
Producers and engineers; take notes. Haters; keep your negative energy with you we don't want that.
Like where should I keep it like?
that one fucking girl just on her phone, holy shit
MIght be writing notes,
His philosophies on mixing can help you get out of your own way. Salute!
That’s the longest I’ve ever seen anyone in a studio without playing a sound
Facts. I was waiting for some demos
red bull prob edited out the demos cause of copyright concerns :(
I saw him talking at the waves booth at namm this year and he seems like a genuinely nice guy
Priceless info...what an awesome lecture!
surely can't hurt to play a few seconds of audio.. apart from that dope lecture
He's nearly giving away his secrets if he played the audio he'd let the entire cat out of the bag. Gotta get paid somehow it's not his job to make us good engineers.
How would he give away secrets from playing the audio? He already gave his whole master chain and plugins he uses. I think seeing the chains he uses would hurt him more then hearing the audio lmao
I agree I think it's more of a copyright thing. Think about it, this video would be taken down by youtube just like the La Flame Documentary travis had.
Jon Rahi I've seen plenty mix breadowns from artist that are way bigger
Reverse yeah you're right that is more harmful probably. I just think he is trying to be helpful but not give away his whole thing and if they played the audio for it then we'd know exactly what he does to achieve what he's doing (not that it's anything CRAZY or out of the ordinary.) just my two cents tho.
6:16 'I don't know if you've heard of that.' ..... still humble I love it
Awesome! Thank you Alex and Red bull academy👍🏼👍🏼
thank you alex, this is wonderful... youre a legend
One thing I would like to say is I'm happy you are explaining to them the music and how it really works. No if's or buts about st8 to the point. But a lot of those kids look a little lost and are rethinking their career right now. Cause you are telling them how it needs to happen. If not you will not last more then first major session. My name is Jordan and I've worked on about 400 major sessions. This career is not as easy as it looks. Have fun and make the most of it and be creative. But don't over think it.
I've been mixing a long time and producing and recording longer. Many amazing learning moments in my life. This is among them.
Can you mix and master me?
Dope. Dope. Dope. Thank you for this!!!
I really like what you said about enjoying the space in the music. I learned to enjoy this through other styles of music I was writing and playing, keeping the dynamics is the way
Biggest thing I took from this was " how am I gonna get through this. Like how?"
🙏🏽 good aspect
2023 still a classic, thx Alex
fuck man been waiting for you to press play lmao
Great stuff❕
Thank you. This is just what I needed
Tae Skies like, what? like.
You can learn so much from this video 🙏🙏💯
Just talk
beautiful lecture
Young engineer from Atlanta taking notes 📝🔥
Finally Watching This
Damn I watched the whole thing?? Time flys when you’re soaking in gems 😭
Wow this is such good information. Thank you
More of this kind of stuff please
Dope. Would love to see & hear more from Alex on mixing hip hop. There is very little quality videos out here.
This is fire 🔥
26:12 I never used the AT4047, but I will say the AT4040 is one the best (if not the best) mic I've ever heard in the $300 or below price range and better or just as good as a lot of mics that are 10x more expensive.
"Old outdated plugins" means Cracked...NOT hating, just saying.
Fax😂
Probably not. As an example.. the various izotope ozone suites sounds different from eachother even with the same settings because of how they are made.
Who cares tho
Quit snitching
Alright 6ix9ine calm down
The GOAT
all these professionals in youtube comments can't even realize why he can't play audio and get mad about it LOL. made my day
These are good pointers for sure.
like like like like like like like like like
so, he was nervous. i was in the room for this workshop and he is pretty brilliant and you're pretty petty.
like like like like like like. If I could get paid $1 evry time I'm talking to ppl that's what you hear every 3rd word. Please say what you mean and mean what you say.
ahahah lol
Calm down Bro
Shu_BLN he apologized on Twitter lol
You are great man, thank you!
there's always another level man damn everything is hard work lol
Dude was about to cry talking about DS2 😂😂
2:59 is so true yet ive never really heard anyone vocalize it b4
shout out to the dude @ 14:24 rockin the dawn raid ent hoodie . nz up !
Thanks red bull recording
I'm mad they had to cut the audio tho 😪
Young I.G.G. red bull always does this. blame youtube
for real, it's kind of pointless.
prob license /rights issues
I wish I was that uber driver, I woulda learned something.(Ps I don't drive uber & I'm in California)I'm gonna try that mixing in the car. I told myself to listen to it in 3 different sound environments before putting it out, but I get lazy & rely on just the studio monitors & sometimes the mix is shitty In the car. But Im back to working harder & checking mixes
I tried that and killed my battery smh
Shavarez Smith 😂
JayDee bra I was hurt. Had to get a jump from the Chinese delivery man
Very Dope.
Great job Alex
is there a reason to not run the REQ 6 plugin before sending for reverb/doubler/delay etc.?
wish the whole video was there
is this david blaine doing beats.
Isaac V doing beats?
This was great! I learened soooo much.. Would be awesome if you could upload a pro tools template?
This dude says “like” for every other word . Sheeeesh
Where can i learn what he's talking about? like is there some videos i can learn about engineering with somewhere online?
NOTES TAKEN THANK YOU 🙌
Pretty dope!
real legit yo !
U can tell 21 recorded in his basement i hear his alarm system beep in songs especially Red Opps
it was the kitchen/living room.. Atlanta rappers get it out the mud.. there aren't very many basements in Atlanta.. those would get converted into full blown studios.. We wish we could find legitimate basements in Atlanta.. lol
I went to go listen cuz I thought you was trippin but like 3 seconds into the song theres a really loud one
ovo xo lol its the smoke/co2 detectors everybody has in their apartments.
This happened to me today
dope
No matter what this dude says he's obviously good at what he does. That's why he has his job.
legend. shlatt
yo this shit is so good god bless alex
6:58 so true!!!
like, i kinda, like, i dont know...
triplxsix It's literally a free education. Everybody complains about everything, huh?
godjira 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@estebanb7166 fr bruh
🤣🤣🤣
brave little you and all that public speaking ability on your channel. grow up.
wow learned alot in so lil time were do i sign up
I love the way he mixes London On Da Track beats. Specially them kicks.
can someone explain to me the atlanta way of recording (and the mixing too, like the process)
Where can i get his hat from ?
I Lol'ed when he said 21 Savage records most his vocals in his basement
This guy said Like, Like a Billion Times Like!
is his print track an AUX (stereo) bus or an Audio Track (Stereo)?
Qual é a sua versão em Pro tools
guy at 2:55 uses the plugin he's talking about and puts shimmer all over everything
im very confused... does he turn off his master bus plugins when hes exporting the track for the mastering engineer or does he leave it on? ... can somebody please xplain?
Turns them off
Where does he talk about using the Waves IR1 reverb?
I'm sure there's some dope wisdom being dropped here, but like I can't even.
Kendrick Kirk 🤣
Loll DA spinzzzzz
Goat
whats the name of the reverb he said he use?
Youth lagoon is amazing
didn't realise he had worked with him. incredible albums. first one if prob my most played album ever
they don't know they have a legend in front of them
3:20 What was he saying about Mike Dean? It sounded like he was talking about New Slaves but idk
Said like at least 1000 times
no analog gear before this massive chain? pre amp?? why use uad g buss and not the actual gear? do they get used still? i just dont understand why so much "in the box"
compression in a analog studio answers??
Where’d you get that plaid shirt
As a novice recording engineer, I'm curious as to how you would go about setting the input levels so that when Dex is going crazy in the booth, the audio signal doesn't clip.. My guess is to set the input gain extremely low, so that his vocals won't go any higher than about -6dB (which is still wayy to hot/loud for an input signal)... Or do they use a compressor on the pre-amp/Audio-Interface to keep the audio signal from jumping..???
Herbie Hancock a huge ratio of compression.
Herbie Hancock distressor Nuke mode maybe?
They record with outboard compressors and good pres on most artists
What is the name of the album he is talking about at minute 25:44 ?
pretty sure its 'Songs of Pain' by Daniel Johnston
Where can l get the Dj Spins 808. . .
Delan Musiyiwa ur ass
19:08 looks a beginning of a ad or something 😂😂
'Please give just £3 a month so we can these help these people get proper careers'
tha GOD
i think he's hinting for us to like this video