I had trouble hearing your voice on this video which normally hasn't been a problem. ... Your videos have really shown me a lot about the bike. The stock bike is a good fit for me .. an older gray head. Going fast on a dirt trail is the last thing I want, for one we have too many deer here. That 2 up climb going slow over grass sold me. I can tie on a deer and back to me 'car' just fine and that is a main reason for me to buy the CT125 Hunter. You certainly covered the bike well, the one thing I have question for is an inline fuel filter. It seems that a fuel injection system should have a filter. My adventures will take me many miles into a 'pine forest' so I need a reliable machine .. I will pay extra for a Honda :o). Thanks again, you're providing a good service to us.
looks like you'll be heading for the hills so this is what i'd do unless things change accessory wise in the next few months. 1. better off road tyres immediately 2. 13t front sprocket apart from that nothing. no need for inline filter. fuel injectbikes have a large filter in the tank surrounding the pump prior to it be despatched to the injector. all you must do is - never let the bike run out of gas- not good as the pump is cooled by petrol and expensive to replace. use good quality gas and you will find it 100% reliable
Waro - My Dad always said that a smaller front sprocket would wear more on the chain (more torque?) than a larger rear sprocket. I guess it is a trade off as a larger rear is heavier but the small front wears the chain. Just resealed my 1975 Honda CT90 gas tank as it had gone rotten with the new ethanol/gasoline fuels.... Be safe! Thanks for great videos!!
ithink bigger rear is the way to go but only problem is getting the rear sprocket as so far -no luck there. that may change as the bike becomes more plentiful. either way chains and sprockets are pretty cheap so untill it happens i will have to wait it out
@@MatBettinson yeah i sent one mob an email but got no reply. i may have to try again. i would like to go in the end say 14t front with 41t rear thats the plan but getting it there is not as easy...lol
In reality, dropping one tooth on the front sprocket will show no measurable extra wear on the chain. I doubt anyone could actually tell the difference. And who will actually put the miles on each chain until they are wore out (and how do you actually declare "wore out"?) and compare the miles they got on each.
I appreciate the many comments on more wear possibly with one tooth less on front sprocket... Thinking back, I believe Mr. Paladin is right as we only saw more wear when my Dad and I were playing sprockets with pumped up BSA 500MX and Triumph 650 for hill climbing... that was when we'd burn Alchy and a little Nitro.... Ahhh... the memories...
With my bike probably arriving this week you really give me pause about whether or not I should buy it thinking about the Honda CB 500 X thinking about the world Enfield Himalayan thinking about the new 2021 Honda NC 750 X or maybe I've just lost my mind... People are waiting in line all over the world to buy this bike of yours even though it's overpriced even though it's underpowered even though the suspension is terrible etc. I suppose I'll have mine in the garage by next weekend or the week after I have most of the farkles you've purchased sitting on a shelf in my closet waiting to be installed on a bike I don't have but I've listened to everything you said here and it does once again give me pause of course after owning 10 BMW motorcycles and losing a fortune in money selling them after 2 to 4 years... Paying the $3900 in the United States for this bike... Well maybe it doesn't seem that bad another great video from you wonderful information appreciate everything
look at it this way one is a greatlittle fun bike and two its only money...lol so roll the dice and carry on...lol but if you was doing long distance there is only one choice-brand new cb500x i may still knock over another one of those yet!
I have a CT70 clone in the garage and for long distance a KLR650 (best adventure bike in the world in my opinion and you can pick up slightly used ones for $3500) and a Vespa GTS300, both bikes can cruise 80mph all day when I need to do long distance rides.
I'm sorry you had to pay so much for your bike, but at least you have one and I have no idea when I will be able to get one in the US. Current allotment seems to be one per dealer and they went fast. Thanks for sharing yours.
no drama with the buying as i have no real regrets but i have heard from price watchers many times on my clips about it being far too high. sure its pricey but its just boils down to one question- you either want one or you dont. i think its worth the outlay and its a fun bike in this case you are buying that fun at a premium price but will get many hours of pleasure in return both parties win!
As soon as I saw the title of your clip, I was thinking the same thing as your No. 1 complaint. The price it too high. Not the under $4K MSRP in the North American market, which seems reasonable, but what the dealers will be actually be selling it for in the U.S. Since the CT125 is likely to have a low profit margin for the retail dealer and their commissioned salespersons and because the bike will be in short supply until the pandemic situation is well over with, I have no doubt that most U.S. dealers will be asking at least $1000 more than MSRP for the CT125, at least until the demand for the bike drops way off. And that is going to suck for the bike's customers. But I have no doubt many will pay the extra "fees" and other justifications for raising the price. Years ago I tried to buy a Honda Accord in the SF Bay Area and all of the dealers wanted $3K over the MSRP. I was told that was the price that it was selling for in the local area and if I didn't like it, take a hike. So I did and I bought a GM Saturn instead for exactly the MSRP - no extra fees added.
over the months or so of clips put up the numberone complaint on comments has been priced too high...lol sure it is but nothing i can do about that ad i'll be very surprised if they drop it seeing its so popular i know if i was in that position-i'd hold steady there...lol
I use mine in Thailand, factory suspensions great especially on rocky trails, and I've had no problem with the tires whatsoever I rode it up 3200 ft mountain in Phangna Province Thailand really tough going 4 hours up 4 hours down and no modifications whatsoever although the 13 tooth sprocket would have come in handy,I also use it to ride around the high rubber plantations in Phuket performs brilliantly especially in Monsoon and the front ABS brake works like a dream coming back down off the steep trails up to the rubber plantations.
yeah i think it depends upon where you live and the riding condition. this way i am in roughly rocky country so good tyre grip is important plus if you get the chance throw on a 13t sprocket and i think you'll be very surprised. either way great little bike to ride-just bought the red version a week ago
@@ridewithwarro Yes ill get the Sprocket and fit it on when I'm trail riding,I do a lot of road work on mine as well.Ps I saw a really nice deep military green CT 125 yesterday at the main dealers here.
@@louisdisbury9759 ref to the green. i believe that colour is coming to Aust near last shipmnt date. i know a guy who was thinking of buying one. i too thought about doing the oder but decided the red was the way to go. on my last bike i wanted red so thiscovers that thought...lol sprocket is a very easy change over and well worth the try. i think the 42 rear is pretty good too. retired oakie in thialand uses that sprocket and confirmed its very good. check out his channel- lots of cool rides
I was expecting that this bike, considering the price, will have some decent components, like a better suspension at least, and not force you upgrading the suspension... You consider the stock suspensions decent for off-roads?
say i didn't have this channel and i was just out in the bush riding it at a leasurely pace-it would be fine. but you'd still have to odo something about that front end clunking. like heavier oil or just the spring upgrade kit. the rear shocks i bought may be an over-kill butup front it would be nice. on the sealed stuff it handles it very easy. it does need that 13t sprocket although i am now running/testing a 41t rear
Hi Warro, I’ve been looking at one of these and the adv150. Have you looked at any of the smaller adv style scooters ? The CT seems the simpler answer but more than a thousand dearer. Anyway thank you for your videos and opinions. Yours way heaps more than most to me.
you could live with the ct125 providing you settle for 80 kph tops on flat country or better still add the 13t front sprocket and it will disable the abs but give it far more get up and go and genuine gps 80 kph
Cheers mate for a proper dual sport I ride my wr250r. And I am very happy with that bike. I was commuting on that bike for the last couple of years and now my office is in the cbd so looking for something smaller yet to navigate the city jungle
Having ridden both the CT90 and the CT110 back in my youth, the thing I would probably miss would be the dual transmission selector. I wish I had not sold the CT110 back then. I'm in Canada and we unfortunately don't have it available yet.
things have improved dramatically with this new 13t/41t rear combo. its a different bike to ride in all areas. bike appears well sorted at the moment anyway
@@sylvainmichaud2262 really good at the moment so i think a vast improvement over stock for my riding style anyway. can get on with the task of fitting the rear shocks now
wonderful bike, i hope it comes to europe soon! only thing i would wish for is more hp, 15 would be perfect but on a different note: one of my budgies absolutely loved the chirping in the background came out of the cage to listen closely, it was kinda cute 1:13 you even have them birds flying around in your review :D
next time you look at a clip you'll see bird aviaries in the background. the chirping your budgie heard was probably from a colony of 30 blue mask lovebirds chattering merrily away. that mic picks them up very easy. now the others are just local aussie birds which sit in that tree and go for it each time i do a clip....lol no shortage of birds about where i live-either out in the scrub or in town-they are everywhere. i even have a clip on youtube where a female magpie comes walks right inside the house to get some food.
I wonder why Honda thought it necessary to to put on a Thailand specific noise compliancy sticker on an bike exported to Oz - it will be interesting to see if there are any specification differences between USA/EU and rest of the world exports
I copied all upgrades (unless you have cheaper spare gas can option). I have less to put into it than you. However, I will select performance items “first”. Though I need them all really. God bless! I watch every video with enthusiasm! I will be in Cavite / Dasmarinas hopefully 2022 for a month. I hope to meet you and ride some. (Find a good rental bike). I will move there soon.
well from experience on this and quite a few ride outs i would say best mod is without a doubt the 13t front sprocket to give it more get up and go very little outlay -under $20 and works well and the bike performs
New subscriber here, I have a question....do you reckon that it would be possible to remove the rear rack and install a typical long double seat? Im big and on my C90 i end up sitting about the middle of the double seat.
well the rear rack is just bolted on so its quite possible. check out oakie in thialands clips-he just added a new slimline rack whick may help with your idea on help with a bench style seat either way the rear can be removed and i think something could be done as it appears to be pretty close on the same level
New chain is 428 heavy duty you said? How has it worked? Ahh 13 tooth sprocket worked well, good,I need it then. Ahh k weak factory shocks. How did new shocks work?
heavy duty chain was far better than stock but i wouldn't recommend the upgraded tyre change i did. in actual fact that mod although it looked cool did slow the bike down
Warro, Thanks for the detailed review, its much appreciated. I had a honda passport in the 1980s, i only rode it on the road but it was so much fun. Ive had full on motorcycles too, but there was just something more fun i had with the passport that made me feel like a kid again. Do you know what i mean? I am definately considering buying a ct125, especially since it can go off road. Warro, you sound like youve ridden a lot of bikes. Is the ct125 truly the most fun youve had on a motor bike? Thank you. Cheers.
well i was on the 500 this morning and after getting off it i thought-not as much fun as the ct125 and a big heavy bike too...lol so 33 new bikes and 8 years later ys i am saying its a lot of fun...lol and i highly recommend it!
true and that price is good as US$3900 as is only AU$5300- now if i converted it would you pay US$5600 -thats what we have to pay for it here in OZ...lol so you cansee here we get stung pretty hard!
@@ridewithwarro That is a hard hit for such a small bike. Honda knows they can sell A LOT of these and don't care if it is overpriced. It would all depend on NEED & ability to pay. It would not be my first bike if I needed it for daily transport.
@@66block84 true some don't like it when i say its a fun toy but in all honesty ...its just a fun toy...lol if you were looking at a serious long distance tourer go cb500x but iveowned two and although they are nice they are no toy and thy are not fun! this bike is fun and i enjoy the ride so i might as well enjoy a few accessories too...lol
@@ridewithwarro Thanks Warro, but my days of riding long distance are over. A CT-125 would be for short trips around town and Winters off road in the Southwest U.S. to get out of the snow here in Minnesota. My last bike I sold this past summer was a Honda Shadow 1100. Loved it. Before that was a Yamaha 650 Special. Loved that one also. Life moves on.
i did but it was too hard to sit on. probably a good idea to do somne research on what others think is the best aftermarket seat for comfort as the one i had in my accorory clip was a shocker-
the first thing i did on my CT 110 it change the tyres to all terrains. then i put a bag on. then put a usb hub and camera on it. the bike only cost me 1500$ and they are made all in japan. and you can get parts anywhere. i can even get parts from two local places
I just bought one in Japan, and the front brake is too soft. In other words, there's too much play in the brake lever. I asked the shop I bought it from to adjust it, but he said no. Is there a way to reduce the amount of play in the front brake, so that it is more like a scooter, dirt bike or street bike front brake - i.e., one or two fingers, with very little play in the lever?
@@juliusevola8806 yeah even i dont know why the new 5 speed grom is $4500 and the ct125 is $7800 but thats how it goes here. ..lol just like when i was into z3 bmw's a new one in the states was usd30k once it hit our shores it went to aud100k so i was buying used for roughly near the price of usd$ new...lol but i had a bit of fun and went through 4 of them so cant complain really
I strongly recommend a sound recorder. Something like Zoom H1n, Tascam DR-05X or even a simple lav mic that goes to your smartphone. The echoey sound, recorded far away from whatever microphone you are using is a pain to anyone who would want to hear what you say.
Does the rear wheel have a rim lock? My 2021CT shows up 1st week of Dec., I have 2 new knobbys waiting to put on the rear, I feel that the rear, with a knobby and low pressure, it might slip, without a rim lock!!?? Jerry D.
not exactly sure but what i can tell you as of ysterday. i fitted the 13t/41rear. did that same hill climb as i did with the 13t/39 except i stopped exactly at the steepest section where those wheel ruts are. got off the bike. checked to see if i was at the very steepest point which i was. got back on and started the bike and rode straight up trouble free. i feel confident now this bike would run with the old durl range bike with this gearing. plus it has power in all 4 gear up to 50 mph i ran inclines yesterday which would stop a standard ct125 dead in its tracks and you know-i have really tested this bike i now have a very good gearing combo for hilly country which works for me
@@ridewithwarro Yes you did. And you did so without berating the bike. Your actually doing a public service to potential buyers so they know what their getting and what to expect.
@@findingneutral well in most cases the upgrades will cost very little. now although you never saw the comments as i deleted them in the ealy clips a few said i was riding it like an old woman...lol so i upped the pace! then found out i'd need something better to control it better on the dirt. now i was actually happier riding it slower but i will fit the new stuff and i will know then if neeed it should handle it better. out in the scrub and easy running just the following-tyres/sprocket and chain upgrade and if it came down to just one......hard call there sprocket to 13T...lo just amuch better bike!
@@ridewithwarro I think an Old Lady would have dumped it that time you had a passenger AND went sideways in the middle of that giant puddle. I guess I'd be considered geriatric elder supreme the way I ride. Don't believe the naysayers.
totally new motor for this new release model. because it only has single channel abs -no more coming to Aust from nov as they dont comply. plus heaps of other new bikes too. no duel channel abs fitted and no sale either! i expect honda to release a ct150 within months and after they clear old stock. my bet is it will have 150cc and duel abs and sales back on
That would be amazing !! But still, I want that amazing dual range transmission. You could put your feet down, and have all that low speed torque out the rear wheel. Oh yes…and bigger knobs on the tires. That’d be pretty close to a perfect trail bike.
My ct110 will climb any hill with the sub transmission and i'm 270. Will this bike climb any hill? Wish this new 125 had a sub transmission. I'd buy 2 mikes. I can go up any hill. I agree with your dislikes mate.
it might have modern tech like fuel inj and abs but unfortunately its not a climber in stock form. it can be improved with the 13t to help it out and i am working on a 14t/41 rear combo but i think after that -party is over...lol
@@n4zou Amen to that. They did that when the ct110 came out and brought it back the next year. I bought the first one, sold it and bought the dual range one. Been happy with it. If they did that to this one, I'd buy one or even 2.
I've heard this complaint. I'd like to know how the torque compares in a larger, fuel injected engine to the older one with low range. I'm a bigger guy as well.
@@mattp9029 the sub transmission is strong in low. i pulled a big boat i couldn't move myself. i still have my ct110, rusting away. I'm going restore some parts and start riding it. this 125 i thought would have more power, not just a few more horses.
dropped off the quad for its mot hope it pass. first ride from covid 19 i was dripping in sweat by the time i got it to the mot test center. forgot how much of a work out it is riding it. my arms are killing bit of luck it pass then i can do some hours on it to get back in shape :)
well i suppose the workout was good for you but when the time comes and you mount the ct125 it will be more like a picnic. you'll be able to throw it around and it will be no trouble at all- you probably miss the quad days...lol or maybe not!
@@ridewithwarro the quad passed the mot. had it out last few mornings after work. i even drove it in to work at 2am this morning over the top of the mountain pass in the pitch black and rain. water/mud was flying up off my front wheels so bad i had to put my face screen up and just let the water / mud go in my face so i could see what i was doing. all good fun tho i have a gopro coming soon i will make a vid to show ye warro :)
You are right about your number one hate. I had to play that bit a few times when you said you paid AUD 7,800. This is equivalent to THB 170,714. I just bought the same bike in Bangkok for THB 84,900. Which in AUD, and you will not like this, is AUD 3,879. Maybe I got the conversion wrong as this is half price! Even with import duty and tax somebody is making a killing in Australia. Perhaps I could buy them here, dismantle them and post them to people. I got mine from www.aphonda.co.th/cubhouse/ct125#
yeah it is a pretty silly price...lol but saying that what can you do about it.....like nothing! anyway its still a pretty fun bike and its a good little package and at $3880 i'd say on the conversion rate an outright bargain.
@@ridewithwarro well I agree. People, it's a TOY. Wait out the pandemic, don't get caught up in a buying frenzy. Dealers will adjust prices soon enough!
@David Brettell @Ride with Warro I'm moving back to Thailand at the end of this year and looking for small bike to use which can save money on the gas and can go everywhere that I wanted it. I might get this CT125 in Thailand. Thanks guys!
thats a good point too. over time you get use to it. not sure but maybe one can get those aftermarket gear indicators for this bike. always something to look into
Honda Australia is dreaming with these bike prices. I would've purchased a cub by now but they're ripping off the public with those prices and they lost a sale. They're 2k over priced.
well a good $2k over what they should be. in reality i don't know why a grom should sell so cheap when compared to this-almost double the price and rolls royce in price to other 125CC bikes. my daughter bought her new bike -another honda 125 cc- carby job its on my channel for $2700 ride away about one year ago
ive been tied up with the ct125 for over a year now and actually on my second one in -red what ive found out in thepast year is it doesn't matter what they sell for -its usually how hard they are to get and how long you have to wait to get it. true i have seen them from forums i belong too for $3890 but by the time they ride them out the door its more like $5k plus several of the guys i know in the usa paid well over $5k in the end though one is really buying a nastalga or trip back in time ride-and in doing so like always - one must pay the price...lol
@@ridewithwarro In Japan, they are very hard to find in the motorcycle shops. When the shops do get them, they sell immediately. I bought my 2021 for 467,000 Japanese Yen, or AUD $5,500 and U.S. $4,000. And they often sell for even more used on the used online bike vendors like Goo Bike Japan. They are highly sought after here.
pity but that may change. it would be a bit of a blast to belt about on short trips from village to village. not so here as its pretty well open space or is in my location. once i hit the road its straight to the hills....lol
you can fix all the stuff i mentioned for near nothing apart from two-no need to get ccarried away on thesuspension either and i think you could get some good stuff cheaper. but price wise i don't think you'll do much good unless you move to thialand. thats where the real bargain is!
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What i dislike about this Bike is, Its not sat on my Driveway !
great littlebike and at the moment pretty hard to get in any drive-way. all the best
I had trouble hearing your voice on this video which normally hasn't been a problem. ... Your videos have really shown me a lot about the bike. The stock bike is a good fit for me .. an older gray head. Going fast on a dirt trail is the last thing I want, for one we have too many deer here. That 2 up climb going slow over grass sold me. I can tie on a deer and back to me 'car' just fine and that is a main reason for me to buy the CT125 Hunter. You certainly covered the bike well, the one thing I have question for is an inline fuel filter. It seems that a fuel injection system should have a filter. My adventures will take me many miles into a 'pine forest' so I need a reliable machine .. I will pay extra for a Honda :o). Thanks again, you're providing a good service to us.
looks like you'll be heading for the hills so this is what i'd do unless things change accessory wise in the next few months.
1. better off road tyres immediately
2. 13t front sprocket
apart from that nothing. no need for inline filter. fuel injectbikes have a large filter in the tank surrounding the pump prior to it be despatched to the injector.
all you must do is - never let the bike run out of gas- not good as the pump is cooled by petrol and expensive to replace.
use good quality gas and you will find it 100% reliable
The music on the intro is great. The whole review is great. Honest no beating about the bush review.
happy to help
For the money it would be nice if they gave it the old H - L option some of the old models had
unfortunately i dont think they can do it to this new style motor but it does run well with the 13t front sprocket
@@ridewithwarro bullshit they cant do
@@MrCheaterpipe he said can't and you said can't, what BS?
Waro - My Dad always said that a smaller front sprocket would wear more on the chain (more torque?) than a larger rear sprocket. I guess it is a trade off as a larger rear is heavier but the small front wears the chain. Just resealed my 1975 Honda CT90 gas tank as it had gone rotten with the new ethanol/gasoline fuels.... Be safe! Thanks for great videos!!
ithink bigger rear is the way to go but only problem is getting the rear sprocket as so far -no luck there.
that may change as the bike becomes more plentiful. either way chains and sprockets are pretty cheap so untill it happens i will have to wait it out
@@ridewithwarro there's joints in the states that will knock up a custom. Dunno how pricey that is though.
@@MatBettinson yeah i sent one mob an email but got no reply. i may have to try again. i would like to go in the end say 14t front with 41t rear
thats the plan but getting it there is not as easy...lol
In reality, dropping one tooth on the front sprocket will show no measurable extra wear on the chain. I doubt anyone could actually tell the difference. And who will actually put the miles on each chain until they are wore out (and how do you actually declare "wore out"?) and compare the miles they got on each.
I appreciate the many comments on more wear possibly with one tooth less on front sprocket... Thinking back, I believe Mr. Paladin is right as we only saw more wear when my Dad and I were playing sprockets with pumped up BSA 500MX and Triumph 650 for hill climbing... that was when we'd burn Alchy and a little Nitro.... Ahhh... the memories...
With my bike probably arriving this week
you really give me pause about whether or not I should buy it
thinking about the Honda CB 500 X
thinking about the world Enfield Himalayan
thinking about the new 2021 Honda NC 750 X
or maybe I've just lost my mind...
People are waiting in line all over the world to buy this bike of yours
even though it's overpriced
even though it's underpowered
even though the suspension is terrible
etc.
I suppose I'll have mine in the garage by next weekend or the week after
I have most of the farkles you've purchased sitting on a shelf in my closet waiting to be installed on a bike I don't have
but I've listened to everything you said here
and it does once again give me pause
of course after owning 10 BMW motorcycles
and losing a fortune in money selling them after 2 to 4 years... Paying the $3900 in the United States for this bike... Well maybe it doesn't seem that bad
another great video from you
wonderful information
appreciate everything
look at it this way one is a greatlittle fun bike and two its only money...lol so roll the dice and carry on...lol
but if you was doing long distance there is only one choice-brand new cb500x
i may still knock over another one of those yet!
I have a CT70 clone in the garage and for long distance a KLR650 (best adventure bike in the world in my opinion and you can pick up slightly used ones for $3500) and a Vespa GTS300, both bikes can cruise 80mph all day when I need to do long distance rides.
I'm sorry you had to pay so much for your bike, but at least you have one and I have no idea when I will be able to get one in the US. Current allotment seems to be one per dealer and they went fast. Thanks for sharing yours.
no drama with the buying as i have no real regrets but i have heard from price watchers many times on my clips about it being far too high.
sure its pricey but its just boils down to one question- you either want one or you dont.
i think its worth the outlay and its a fun bike in this case you are buying that fun at a premium price but will get many hours of pleasure in return
both parties win!
I paid 84,000 baht ($2700 usd) here in Thailand. Apr 2021
Love it , especially that suspension upgrade .
i have finally fitted the yss front and rear suspensinion -great improvement in the ride quality especially on dirt roads
@@ridewithwarro can't wait to see!
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bit of a loook near theend of this clip
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As soon as I saw the title of your clip, I was thinking the same thing as your No. 1 complaint. The price it too high. Not the under $4K MSRP in the North American market, which seems reasonable, but what the dealers will be actually be selling it for in the U.S. Since the CT125 is likely to have a low profit margin for the retail dealer and their commissioned salespersons and because the bike will be in short supply until the pandemic situation is well over with, I have no doubt that most U.S. dealers will be asking at least $1000 more than MSRP for the CT125, at least until the demand for the bike drops way off. And that is going to suck for the bike's customers. But I have no doubt many will pay the extra "fees" and other justifications for raising the price. Years ago I tried to buy a Honda Accord in the SF Bay Area and all of the dealers wanted $3K over the MSRP. I was told that was the price that it was selling for in the local area and if I didn't like it, take a hike. So I did and I bought a GM Saturn instead for exactly the MSRP - no extra fees added.
over the months or so of clips put up the numberone complaint on comments has been priced too high...lol
sure it is but nothing i can do about that ad i'll be very surprised if they drop it seeing its so popular
i know if i was in that position-i'd hold steady there...lol
@@ridewithwarro I have no doubt you are correct.
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5 things I hate about your wife that means I'd let you! No disrespect man, only kidding. I got me one of them keepers too! :-)
I use mine in Thailand, factory suspensions great especially on rocky trails, and I've had no problem with the tires whatsoever I rode it up 3200 ft mountain in Phangna Province Thailand really tough going 4 hours up 4 hours down and no modifications whatsoever although the 13 tooth sprocket would have come in handy,I also use it to ride around the high rubber plantations in Phuket performs brilliantly especially in Monsoon and the front ABS brake works like a dream coming back down off the steep trails up to the rubber plantations.
yeah i think it depends upon where you live and the riding condition. this way i am in roughly rocky country so good tyre grip is important plus if you get the chance throw on a 13t sprocket and i think you'll be very surprised.
either way great little bike to ride-just bought the red version a week ago
@@ridewithwarro Yes ill get the Sprocket and fit it on when I'm trail riding,I do a lot of road work on mine as well.Ps I saw a really nice deep military green CT 125 yesterday at the main dealers here.
@@louisdisbury9759 ref to the green. i believe that colour is coming to Aust near last shipmnt date. i know a guy who was thinking of buying one.
i too thought about doing the oder but decided the red was the way to go. on my last bike i wanted red so thiscovers that thought...lol
sprocket is a very easy change over and well worth the try. i think the 42 rear is pretty good too.
retired oakie in thialand uses that sprocket and confirmed its very good.
check out his channel- lots of cool rides
@@ridewithwarro Thanks Mate will Do.
I was expecting that this bike, considering the price, will have some decent components, like a better suspension at least, and not force you upgrading the suspension... You consider the stock suspensions decent for off-roads?
say i didn't have this channel and i was just out in the bush riding it at a leasurely pace-it would be fine. but you'd still have to odo something about that front end clunking. like heavier oil or just the spring upgrade kit.
the rear shocks i bought may be an over-kill butup front it would be nice.
on the sealed stuff it handles it very easy.
it does need that 13t sprocket although i am now running/testing a 41t rear
Hi Warro, I’ve been looking at one of these and the adv150. Have you looked at any of the smaller adv style scooters ? The CT seems the simpler answer but more than a thousand dearer. Anyway thank you for your videos and opinions. Yours way heaps more than most to me.
Not yet! link is somewhere in the comments as it was 2 years ago
you could live with the ct125 providing you settle for 80 kph tops on flat country or better still add the 13t front sprocket and it will disable the abs but give it far more get up and go and genuine gps 80 kph
Cheers mate for a proper dual sport I ride my wr250r. And I am very happy with that bike. I was commuting on that bike for the last couple of years and now my office is in the cbd so looking for something smaller yet to navigate the city jungle
Having ridden both the CT90 and the CT110 back in my youth, the thing I would probably miss would be the dual transmission selector. I wish I had not sold the CT110 back then.
I'm in Canada and we unfortunately don't have it available yet.
things have improved dramatically with this new 13t/41t rear combo. its a different bike to ride in all areas. bike appears well sorted at the moment anyway
@@ridewithwarro
Thanks for the 13 trial conclusions.
No doubt the machine is much more performant.
@@sylvainmichaud2262 really good at the moment so i think a vast improvement over stock for my riding style anyway.
can get on with the task of fitting the rear shocks now
@@ridewithwarro
Can't wait for your feedback.
Many thanks.
wonderful bike, i hope it comes to europe soon! only thing i would wish for is more hp, 15 would be perfect
but on a different note: one of my budgies absolutely loved the chirping in the background
came out of the cage to listen closely, it was kinda cute
1:13 you even have them birds flying around in your review :D
next time you look at a clip you'll see bird aviaries in the background. the chirping your budgie heard was probably from a colony of 30 blue mask lovebirds chattering merrily away.
that mic picks them up very easy.
now the others are just local aussie birds which sit in that tree and go for it each time i do a clip....lol
no shortage of birds about where i live-either out in the scrub or in town-they are everywhere.
i even have a clip on youtube where a female magpie comes walks right inside the house to get some food.
I wonder why Honda thought it necessary to to put on a Thailand specific noise compliancy sticker on an bike exported to Oz - it will be interesting to see if there are any specification differences between USA/EU and rest of the world exports
interesting thoughts on that there-time will tell i guess
I wondered that. I looked on my bike, bought in Bangkok, and I don't have one. Just one sticker with tyre pressure and chain slack.
I copied all upgrades (unless you have cheaper spare gas can option). I have less to put into it than you. However, I will select performance items “first”. Though I need them all really.
God bless! I watch every video with enthusiasm!
I will be in Cavite / Dasmarinas hopefully 2022 for a month. I hope to meet you and ride some. (Find a good rental bike). I will move there soon.
well from experience on this and quite a few ride outs i would say best mod is without a doubt the 13t front sprocket to give it more get up and go
very little outlay -under $20 and works well and the bike performs
New subscriber here, I have a question....do you reckon that it would be possible to remove the rear rack and install a typical long double seat? Im big and on my C90 i end up sitting about the middle of the double seat.
well the rear rack is just bolted on so its quite possible. check out oakie in thialands clips-he just added a new slimline rack whick may help with your idea on help with a bench style seat
either way the rear can be removed and i think something could be done as it appears to be pretty close on the same level
@@ridewithwarro Cheers, I will take a look. Good to hear it may be possible!
New chain is 428 heavy duty you said? How has it worked? Ahh 13 tooth sprocket worked well, good,I need it then. Ahh k weak factory shocks. How did new shocks work?
heavy duty chain was far better than stock but i wouldn't recommend the upgraded tyre change i did. in actual fact that mod although it looked cool did slow the bike down
Warro,
Thanks for the detailed review, its much appreciated. I had a honda passport in the 1980s, i only rode it on the road but it was so much fun. Ive had full on motorcycles too, but there was just something more fun i had with the passport that made me feel like a kid again. Do you know what i mean? I am definately considering buying a ct125, especially since it can go off road.
Warro, you sound like youve ridden a lot of bikes. Is the ct125 truly the most fun youve had on a motor bike? Thank you. Cheers.
well i was on the 500 this morning and after getting off it i thought-not as much fun as the ct125 and a big heavy bike too...lol
so 33 new bikes and 8 years later ys i am saying its a lot of fun...lol and i highly recommend it!
$3900.00 US, maybe it's overpriced, but for trail riding & just having fun, I would pay that.
true and that price is good as US$3900 as is only AU$5300- now if i converted it would you pay US$5600 -thats what we have to pay for it here in OZ...lol
so you cansee here we get stung pretty hard!
@@ridewithwarro That is a hard hit for such a small bike. Honda knows they can sell A LOT of these and don't care if it is overpriced. It would all depend on NEED & ability to pay. It would not be my first bike if I needed it for daily transport.
@@66block84 true some don't like it when i say its a fun toy but in all honesty ...its just a fun toy...lol
if you were looking at a serious long distance tourer go cb500x but iveowned two and although they are nice they are no toy and thy are not fun!
this bike is fun and i enjoy the ride so i might as well enjoy a few accessories too...lol
@@ridewithwarro Thanks Warro, but my days of riding long distance are over. A CT-125 would be for short trips around town and Winters off road in the Southwest U.S. to get out of the snow here in Minnesota. My last bike I sold this past summer was a Honda Shadow 1100. Loved it. Before that was a Yamaha 650 Special. Loved that one also. Life moves on.
@@66block84 know what you mean.... in that case thelittle ct125 will be perfect for those short runs out in the outback and a enjoyable adventure
Have you got a aftermarket seat as I am wondering if I should get a diablo seat or not.
i did but it was too hard to sit on. probably a good idea to do somne research on what others think is the best aftermarket seat for comfort as the one i had in my accorory clip was a shocker-
the first thing i did on my CT 110 it change the tyres to all terrains. then i put a bag on. then put a usb hub and camera on it. the bike only cost me 1500$ and they are made all in japan. and you can get parts anywhere. i can even get parts from two local places
yeah i noticed a few of them for sale here lately around the $2k mark or a bit over
I just bought one in Japan, and the front brake is too soft. In other words, there's too much play in the brake lever. I asked the shop I bought it from to adjust it, but he said no. Is there a way to reduce the amount of play in the front brake, so that it is more like a scooter, dirt bike or street bike front brake - i.e., one or two fingers, with very little play in the lever?
give it 1000 klm and you'll find the brake beds in nicely and works pretty good
@@ridewithwarro thanks. I was surprised how expensive these are in Australia!
@@juliusevola8806 yeah even i dont know why the new 5 speed grom is $4500 and the ct125 is $7800 but thats how it goes here.
..lol
just like when i was into z3 bmw's
a new one in the states was usd30k once it hit our shores it went to aud100k
so i was buying used for roughly near the price of usd$ new...lol
but i had a bit of fun and went through 4 of them so cant complain really
I strongly recommend a sound recorder. Something like Zoom H1n, Tascam DR-05X or even a simple lav mic that goes to your smartphone. The echoey sound, recorded far away from whatever microphone you are using is a pain to anyone who would want to hear what you say.
i will keep it in mind
Does the rear wheel have a rim lock? My 2021CT shows up 1st week of Dec., I have 2 new knobbys waiting to put on the rear, I feel that the rear, with a knobby and low pressure, it might slip, without a rim lock!!?? Jerry D.
not exactly sure but what i can tell you as of ysterday.
i fitted the 13t/41rear. did that same hill climb as i did with the 13t/39 except i stopped exactly at the steepest section where those wheel ruts are.
got off the bike. checked to see if i was at the very steepest point which i was.
got back on and started the bike and rode straight up trouble free.
i feel confident now this bike would run with the old durl range bike with this gearing.
plus it has power in all 4 gear up to 50 mph
i ran inclines yesterday which would stop a standard ct125 dead in its tracks and you know-i have really tested this bike
i now have a very good gearing combo for hilly country which works for me
Nice honest review 👍
covered all bases i think including the home run!
@@ridewithwarro Yes you did. And you did so without berating the bike. Your actually doing a public service to potential buyers so they know what their getting and what to expect.
@@findingneutral well in most cases the upgrades will cost very little. now although you never saw the comments as i deleted them in the ealy clips a few said i was riding it like an old woman...lol
so i upped the pace! then found out i'd need something better to control it better on the dirt.
now i was actually happier riding it slower but i will fit the new stuff and i will know then if neeed it should handle it better.
out in the scrub and easy running just the following-tyres/sprocket and chain upgrade and if it came down to just one......hard call there sprocket to 13T...lo
just amuch better bike!
@@ridewithwarro I think an Old Lady would have dumped it that time you had a passenger AND went sideways in the middle of that giant puddle. I guess I'd be considered geriatric elder supreme the way I ride. Don't believe the naysayers.
@@findingneutral yes i would say i was pretty lucky that day when i hit the water puddle or both off us could hanv been well and truly dunked...lol
With all the improvements, WHY DIDN’T THEY CARRY OVER THE DUAL RANGE TRANSMISSION FROM THE CT90/CT110. Seems like a major omission.
totally new motor for this new release model. because it only has single channel abs -no more coming to Aust from nov as they dont comply. plus heaps of other new bikes too.
no duel channel abs fitted and no sale either!
i expect honda to release a ct150 within months and after they clear old stock. my bet is it will have 150cc and duel abs and sales back on
That would be amazing !! But still, I want that amazing dual range transmission. You could put your feet down, and have all that low speed torque out the rear wheel. Oh yes…and bigger knobs on the tires. That’d be pretty close to a perfect trail bike.
@@abwdoc did this clip yesterday with 13t front sprocket fit and more off road style rear tyre
ruclips.net/video/20ue1T2Fx6M/видео.html
*I really want one but think theycare out of my price range like most new Honda products are*
unfortunately not a cheap bike to buy for a 125cc cycle but price aside a pretty fun bike to ride
I guess these are for sale here now. None in stock. I’m gonna get one and take it along on my RV camping trips.
great little bike just to do that too-especially if you throw on that 13t front sprocket to improve hilly country climbing
My ct110 will climb any hill with the sub transmission and i'm 270. Will this bike climb any hill? Wish this new 125 had a sub transmission. I'd buy 2 mikes. I can go up any hill. I agree with your dislikes mate.
it might have modern tech like fuel inj and abs but unfortunately its not a climber in stock form. it can be improved with the 13t to help it out and i am working on a 14t/41 rear combo but i think after that -party is over...lol
It think Honda made a huge mistake not putting the selectable high and low range gear box on the transmission like the original trail 90 had.
@@n4zou Amen to that. They did that when the ct110 came out and brought it back the next year. I bought the first one, sold it and bought the dual range one. Been happy with it. If they did that to this one, I'd buy one or even 2.
I've heard this complaint. I'd like to know how the torque compares in a larger, fuel injected engine to the older one with low range. I'm a bigger guy as well.
@@mattp9029 the sub transmission is strong in low. i pulled a big boat i couldn't move myself. i still have my ct110, rusting away. I'm going restore some parts and start riding it. this 125 i thought would have more power, not just a few more horses.
dropped off the quad for its mot hope it pass. first ride from covid 19 i was dripping in sweat by the time i got it to the mot test center. forgot how much of a work out it is riding it. my arms are killing bit of luck it pass then i can do some hours on it to get back in shape :)
well i suppose the workout was good for you but when the time comes and you mount the ct125 it will be more like a picnic.
you'll be able to throw it around and it will be no trouble at all- you probably miss the quad days...lol or maybe not!
@@ridewithwarro the quad passed the mot. had it out last few mornings after work. i even drove it in to work at 2am this morning over the top of the mountain pass in the pitch black and rain. water/mud was flying up off my front wheels so bad i had to put my face screen up and just let the water / mud go in my face so i could see what i was doing. all good fun tho i have a gopro coming soon i will make a vid to show ye warro :)
Warro you ever do a video on the passenger pegs you installed?
here in OZ they came as factory standard items-i just added the seat
Never having seen one in the "flesh" it does look like the front mudguard is on backwards...... but it may just be me. Best, Pete.
just the style of the guard...lol bikes are still pretty hard to get. none arrived at the dealership where this bike came from since the purchase
You are right about your number one hate. I had to play that bit a few times when you said you paid AUD 7,800. This is equivalent to THB 170,714. I just bought the same bike in Bangkok for THB 84,900. Which in AUD, and you will not like this, is AUD 3,879. Maybe I got the conversion wrong as this is half price! Even with import duty and tax somebody is making a killing in Australia. Perhaps I could buy them here, dismantle them and post them to people. I got mine from www.aphonda.co.th/cubhouse/ct125#
yeah it is a pretty silly price...lol but saying that what can you do about it.....like nothing!
anyway its still a pretty fun bike and its a good little package and at $3880 i'd say on the conversion rate an outright bargain.
@@ridewithwarro well I agree. People, it's a TOY. Wait out the pandemic, don't get caught up in a buying frenzy. Dealers will adjust prices soon enough!
@@jamesdspaderf2883 ......and what a great little toy it is too. letarip!
@@brettwicks2615 no doubt about that one...lol they are milking the system well...lol
@David Brettell
@Ride with Warro
I'm moving back to Thailand at the end of this year and looking for small bike to use which can save money on the gas and can go everywhere that I wanted it. I might get this CT125 in Thailand.
Thanks guys!
You’re so lucky you get them..none for the Canadian market...they are under 4K in the USA
you never know in time they might hit that part of the world. time will tell i guess
The only thing I really like is the Kickstart.
Over priced, under powered and the factory single seat... nope.
well there you go! i was going to put that in another clip so you helped me out with that one
Waro what about their is no gear 1-4 indicator. T_T
thats a good point too. over time you get use to it. not sure but maybe one can get those aftermarket gear indicators for this bike. always something to look into
That's my pop
LOL
Man, you gotta do sumtin bout dem birds, I can't hear shit bout dat cool lil ride!
yeah i know what you mean-they are out there all the time...lol
The LED lamp not bright enough for the night ride. lol
i found i could ride it pretty good at night at 50 mph but only tried it out once due to the risk of bumping into grey jumpers
Honda Australia is dreaming with these bike prices. I would've purchased a cub by now but they're ripping off the public with those prices and they lost a sale. They're 2k over priced.
well a good $2k over what they should be. in reality i don't know why a grom should sell so cheap when compared to this-almost double the price and rolls royce in price to other 125CC bikes.
my daughter bought her new bike -another honda 125 cc- carby job its on my channel for $2700 ride away about one year ago
In the U.S. they sell all day long for $3,890 plus tax.
ive been tied up with the ct125 for over a year now and actually on my second one in -red
what ive found out in thepast year is it doesn't matter what they sell for -its usually how hard they are to get and how long you have to wait to get it.
true i have seen them from forums i belong too for $3890 but by the time they ride them out the door its more like $5k plus
several of the guys i know in the usa paid well over $5k
in the end though one is really buying a nastalga or trip back in time ride-and in doing so like always - one must pay the price...lol
@@ridewithwarro In Japan, they are very hard to find in the motorcycle shops. When the shops do get them, they sell immediately. I bought my 2021 for 467,000 Japanese Yen, or AUD $5,500 and U.S. $4,000. And they often sell for even more used on the used online bike vendors like Goo Bike Japan. They are highly sought after here.
@@juliusevola8806 they are a bit overpriced here. dont know why but i think its a importer money grab situation...lol
I don't think it is coming here to the UK. It's everything I want to pop to the village.
pity but that may change. it would be a bit of a blast to belt about on short trips from village to village. not so here as its pretty well open space or is in my location.
once i hit the road its straight to the hills....lol
i guess it can be the 110 in time. its brand new bit of luck honda will fix it year by year great vid warro
you can fix all the stuff i mentioned for near nothing apart from two-no need to get ccarried away on thesuspension either and i think you could get some good stuff cheaper.
but price wise i don't think you'll do much good unless you move to thialand.
thats where the real bargain is!
So I would say you bought the wrong bike. Maybe better to buy a Honda 250.
in that case over the past 8 years the last 33 new bikes i have bought have all been wrong...lol
Sorry but the sound is terrible.
yeah i had moic issues that day but no longer
Sorry - can't understand him.
will try harder next time
मान्द्रो चोंन्द्रो।
that too!