Durability is a mistranslation, it’s Persistence. It’s not about how much the stand can take, it’s about how long the stand can maintain their ability. That’s why King Crimson is an E.
Kaleb I.A. So wait, King Crimson lasts for 10 seconds, and that is an E. While The World, without Joseph blood, is five seconds, making it an A? I understand that you can prolong the Time Stop, but still, wouldn’t that make it an E too until it got an upgrade at the end, making it at least a D?
@@mult1versal I'm not writing the franchise my guy, but if we're making logic of it it probably means that King Crimson could've had a better grasp on it's time erasure. Stand stats can already be wonky, but if you go in with the idea of the stats are talking about the stands at hand rather than stands as an entirety, it makes more sense.
@@KalebIA I don't think so, in my opinion the Stand and Stand Abilities should have different stats. Durability in White Album for example, is well, durability. On Star Platinum the durability is stanima, i think
Val the thing is Bruno ended up becoming one of the most strategic fighters in Jojo and by the time he fought Diavolo you could tell he did well for what he could but King Crimson was broken.
KC is actually really easy to explain. Go to any youtube video and skip 10 seconds. It sounds weird, but it actually makes sense. Those 10 seconds in the video happened, and what happened there is 'fate', of which only KC is aware of. You, however, are not aware. You don't know what happened between those 10 seconds, you only know the results.
...seen through it. Your movements in the future. The trajectory of your movements in the future. Within King Crimson’s ability, the world’s time disappears, and no one remembers the movements they made within this segment of time. The clouds in the sky don’t realize they’ve broken apart. A flame that’s extinguished doesn’t even realize the moment it went out. All that remains in this world are the results. In the world where time has been eliminate all movements become pointless! I am the only one who can react to these movements. I can see every single one of your movements! This is king crimson’s ability!
My thinking is that it's more like the enemy was fated to take that damage, so they do. Everyone affected by King Crimson follows the fate they would have in those seconds without realizing it. That's likely how Trish got kidnapped or Narancia got impaled on the bars. King Crimson never touched them, but they were moved as if it did.
@@demi-femme4821 So you're saying that even his would-have-been actions happen as well, causing for all results to be carried over to after the time skip. That actually makes sense.
One big thing you missed is the interaction between Epitaph and King Crimson that essentially DOES allow King Crimson to attack in deleted time. The scenes I'm referring to are Diavolo kidnapping Trish and killing Narancia. In these scenes, Diavolo can apparently attack and take action in deleted time. How do he do that? So when Epitaph makes a prediction, that outcome WILL happen. There is no way to prevent Epitaph's prediction from happening. King Crimson can cheat this personally, for Diavolo, as during deleted time he can't suffer any external consequences, but all other people still do suffer those consequences, even if they're effects of actions King Crimson _would have taken_ in the deleted time. So if Epitaph predicts King Crimson is going to cut Trish's arm off and carry her away, Diavolo can just skip past the timeframe where that happens. Diavolo goes into his weird deleted time state as normal, and outside of that state "time" "progresses" as normal. Meaning that at the end of the deleted time segment, Trish still has her arm cut off and has been moved some distance, even though King Crimson never _did_ that, because it deleted the timeframe where that event would have happened. This is why it's best to think of King Crimson as actually *deleting* the time, not just skipping past a timeframe where things actually did happen, because he's able to negate himself not doing things, because nothing happened in that timeframe. In the timeframe where Narancia would have died, the following would have happened: The gang are sitting around discussing where Bruno and Diavolo are King Crimson bursts out of Mista's body, grabs Giorno's body and yeets it onto some spikes. Everyone else panics, and maybe King Crimson even gets damaged. A lengthy fight would have ensured But because of time erasure, the following is the case: The gang are sitting around discussing where Bruno and Diavolo are _King Crimson bursts out of Mista's body, grabs Giorno's body and yeets it onto some spikes. Everyone else panics, and maybe King Crimson even gets damaged_ *Diavolo watches these actions play out from his hiding place in Trish's soul* The gang continue to discuss the bodyswap, until someone eventually asks "Hey, where's Narancia gone?" King Crimson is the ultimate stealth ability, as he doesn't actually need to kill anyone himself, just predict that a segment of time will occur where he _would_ kill someone, and skip that time segment. Nobody even notices somebody has died immediately, and Diavolo doesn't need to put himself in any sort of danger. And if nobody has any reason to be suspicious of Diavolo/Doppio, they can act with absolute impunity.
I was just about to comment this usage of epitaph and king crimson. Well you explained it better than how I would explain it too. King crimson is more of manipulating fate and time than manipulating just time since fate plays a big role in jojo as we know that
Andrew Cleary that was because Diavolo grabbed these victims then activated time skip similar to his clothes the victim is now tangible to him in his time erasure. People don’t remember this because everyone forgot because of time erasure, Bruno was offguard during the Trish scene and KC is faster than everyone else who were already confused af and didn’t know where the attack would come from.
@@Sun-cg6lv I don't think that's particularly likely, all time skip scenes show that Diavolo can't interact with anything else during deleted time. His clothes seem to be just a bit of artistic lisence on Araki's part, if it really was the case that King Crimson could just interact with whatever it wanted during deleted time, why wouldn't it directly show that to us? There are plenty of scenes from Diavolo's perspective during deleted time, yet we only ever see him phase through objects, reposition himself, and prepare to attack the moment time returns, we never see him interact with ANYTHING other than himself and his blood in deleted time. Who knows, maybe his clothes are made from his hair. I also don't think that sort of speed is justified, we the audience don't see or hear anything after the timeskip either, and King Crimson is seen to be above average in terms of stand speed, but not lightning-fast. The explanation I gave is fully consistent with how fate works in JoJo's, see the Bites the Dust arc as a reference.
Andrew Cleary because we’re seeing it from the characters point of view also he has Mista shot him and he used KC to let the bullets go through also it’s in the description “position himself at an advantageous spot” if he could interact with things in his Time skip the blood trick pol used wouldn’t work as well as it did
There is also the fact that polnareff survived a hit from dio, who's a vampire, and while weaker he should still be comparable in strenght to tarkus, who split a hill and fooder vampires, which can destroy large walls with a destroyed hand casually and on accident while the shockwave sends a 200 pound man flying dozens of meters away. Also his ability is said to "only leave the results" and in the risotto fight, he is seen being intagible during the time erasure. So his ability basicaly turns him into a non-corporeal being.
@@bernardozanon377 yeah but he still had superhuman strenght, so if he had even 20% of his power, it would still be impressive considering that polnareff is just a -toned down pillar man- buffed human
When I first watched Phantom Blood and that random vampire destroyed that wall with just a light touch I was in shock. Didn't expect this level of power because I was so used to Vampires who are just humanoids with fangs and just a lot faster.
@@Crimzonbreaker yeah, i think the classical vampire used to have super strenght but they decided to make them more "human" In jojo, they are monsters, so they don't care about "looking human" except for they appearance (most of)
Imo she'd be able to beat Josuke, and give Giorno a hard time. She's very underrated, and while Stone Free is lackluster compared to other JoJo's stands, she makes up with it with her intelligence and craftiness.
This was spot on, so happy that you noticed king crimson normally attacks after the time skip. It was a tiny detail that people missed that always bugged me🤣🤣🤣
6:55 A better explanation for the blood on Giorno's face is that the blood is no longer part of Diavolo once he's splattered it; it has detached from him. And so it is now being effected by erased time, just like everything else. This also explains Narancia getting through the fence. >Diavolo grabs Narancia/Gio's body >activate King Crimson >now Narancia is conscious during erased time along with Diavolo due to being pulled in >Diavolo pulls Narancia, using KC's strength over the bars. He can do this, because he basically goes Minecraft spectator mode during erased time, becoming intangible. This is shown during Metallica when he uses KC to have the bullets phase through him (this moment also disproves the "fated to happen" explanation some people go with to explain KC). Which means that Narancia will too, allowing him to be moved in between the bars. >Diavolo de-activates King Crimson, Narancia replaces the matter where he was in the bars due to overlapping the matter; he takes priority, hence why parts of the fence is missing, and his/Gio's body fall into the rest of the fence below. he is dead. This shit is why I love King Crimson so much. There's so many intricacies to how it works. Not even D4C comes close to being this fun to think about for me
King Crimson ability is basically like when you are lagging in FPS game and start head shot everyone when your character can move while they can't. The headshot won't happen during the lag, but once the lag gone everyone got headshot at the same time (same concept can't attack during "time skip/lag) but can position the attack (aim/shot at enemies head). Pretty much as simple as that.
"The ability to get only the results" actually is probably the simplest explanation of King Crimson's power I've heard, all that would be needed for it to be a full one would be, "and is exempt from them"
"Durability" means the time that a stand can manifest itself and act, not the ability to take damage. (in facts its really rare to see king crimson doing barrages and even if he does, its barrage is really short) I've seen a lot of comments complaining that king crimson has low durability so it shouldn't able to sustain a lot of damage, like if it was made out of weak glass lol.
I think the durability is hugely misinterpreted stat. The stats are context dependant. It has more to do with the nature of the ability rather stands capability. It's not that his stand can't manifest itself for long, more likely it's not effective against multiple people. Unlike the World where entire world is frozen, within the erased time the states of things are continuous. Thus it's difficult to predict and to react to the movements of multiple foes.
For people who are still confused, i will go over the time erasure in further detail: KC activates Epitaph, allowing him to see 10 seconds into the future. The future he sees is set, it's locked in, anyone in the range of the time erase goes into a sort of trance where they can only do what Epitaph foresees. During that period of time, KC's user can "erase" unwanted parts of the timeline, for example, to prevent him from being attacked, which basically makes him invincible during the time erase. However, nobody remembers what happened during the erasure, so after the 10 seconds have passed, the time erase will stop, and to everybody else, time will have skipped, or been erased.
I always thought of King Crimson, as the cut tool in a video editing software. He cuts the 10 seconds of the "video," and only Diavolo knows of the 10 seconds that was cut.
Yo quick question: Did GER go into his timeskip, or did he activate as soon as he stopped skipping to punch/kill giorno? That's what I've always been confused on lol.
@@GoldenCHR I thought he said that because epitaph was wrong. In the anime at least, it looks like he stops skipping time to punch giorno, then GER activates. I haven't read the maga tho, so I could be wrong
So here’s a question: what would happen if, during the time in which King Crimson is moving through ‘erased time’, a character like Jotaro or Dio stopped time? As in, say they intended to stop time at some point during King Crimson’s erased time state, would they just not appear to King Crimson?
It would probably show the entire event happening simultaneously or within an infinitesimal timespan. If he used King Crimson, he can just skip the whole the thing. King Crimson is essentially a hard counter to time stopping as he can just skip the entire time stop.
MiH and D4C are more terrifying in my opinion... and the world and killer queen are more terrifying too actually, since king crimson can’t interact with anything during time erasure.
Actually, I guess that the "Now the bullets didn't hit me if that milisecond didn't happen" also works for ignoring the moment when it hits any armor or defense, that's why King Crimson can hit trough flesh so easily, because he deletes the moment when you resist the punch.
I just finished the part 5 anime yesterday, and that got me thinking about diavolo's infinite death. So I came up with my own dumb way of diavolo dying: What if diavolo was on a computer on RUclips searching for try not to laugh videos. He finds one that has those titles like "you laugh you die" or something like that. He starts to watch the video. Then a clip of himself laughing or something and for an unknown reason he laughs too. Then all of a sudden he starts getting a throbbing pain in his head. The pain gets worse and worse until.... Kaboom!!!!!! His head is blown up!!! This was just a little idea I had. Adios
If diavolo and dio switched stands that would make Jotaro truly invincible, either by showing timestop overpowers time skip, or giving him the power of time skip to clash against the world, which is kind of a paradox
It doesn't really matter how fast King Crimson is, because he always acts before the opponent. He can see when the opponent will attack so he just erases time BEFORE that, making his speed irrelevant in time erasure as he always attacks first.
If diavolo can throw blood and keep his clothes on I have the theory that he could throw knives similar to dio in his time erasure if he has them connected to him first, this would be op because people stuck in time erasure wouldn't be able to counter these knives because they are forced to do what they were going to do in this erased time.
I think it’s fair to say that when he held up the fortune teller that it was just the strength from King Crimson given that you often see Diavolo substituted for KC during some scenes due to his E in Range.
Ok I think I have a pretty solid idea of how king crimson works. He uses epitaph to look 10 seconds into the future. If what appears in the future is is bad for him, he has king crimson let him break free of fate for 10 seconds. This means that he can move freely during those 10 seconds while everyone else is still bound by fate and forced to live by it.
I feel like a better way to describe King Crimson's ability is just to say that he can "control his fate and his fate alone for up to 10 seconds". I've though about this for a while and feel like this is the best way to describe it.
In my opinion: DIO is WAY stronger than Diavolo because: -Diavolo: confusing time stop but he can't attack others while he's in it and everyone can move and do normal stuff in it -DIO: Confusing time stop but he CAN blow a hole through someone while it's active and that person CAN'T do anything to stop him
Diavolo stronger. He has 2 ability. Erase time and epitaph. When epitaph active, it will lock the future and KC can erase time to being invicible. That explain why trish and naracia were being injured after time erase
Could you do josuke vs jotaro part 3 before dio fight and a location where josuke and Kira fought and josukes has the thing jotaro taught him and I think crazy diamond is weaker or as strong as part 3 and I want see who wins please
I always think of time erasure like photoshop layers. Diavolo moves to a layer above time where he can see and react to whats happening, without interfering much, than after 10 seconds, everyone else moves to that higher layer, without knowledge of the changes
Ok so I just a short thing I wanted to say about king Crimsons Strength or at least striking strength i think he is alot stronger than first thought. My evidence is in part:6 Jolyne is fighting a stand called planet waves and it pulled down 2-3 small meteors from space down to earth to hit her with them and she used stone free to punch them off course and miss her so I think it's fair too assume that King Crimson is stronger than stone free and so he is stronger than building level which makes sense for a stand who can shred people with a wave of his hand and I think it's great because it fits perfectly with his vibe of this unstoppable unseen force
@@trueacolyte no he cant because when kc erase time it erase for more like 10 seconds even infinite speed is not enough because 10 second will be passed
as you can see in the anime, the movement of all living being and stands in erased time significantly decreased (notice how bruno moves while his stand speed is A). try to calculate pucci's mih if you can. also, GER's punch is faster than Sticky Finger's during erased time, so...
@@maninthemirror6938 thats not the case actually diavolo erase 10 seconds from the future the movements that mih would do will be erased from time to make it simple diavolo made time move 10 seconds so the speed is not the case here since it will be removed from the time
Made in heaven has infinite speed, there isn't any character other than d4c love train and ger, and d4c love train can't fight back, that means everyone is infinitely slower how if made in heaven wants it can see everything so slow time is basically stopped, and if diavolo comes out of time erase, no matter what there will be time between when diavolo goes to uses another time erase, so because of that made in heaven will be able to end him without being able to react.
@@danielola-abidoye1365 Diavolo would win against Jotaro easily. Against Dio he would also win but it would be harder. He can evade any of Dio's attacks and erase Za Warudo's effects. Dio can still die if you blow his head completely unlike the pillar men. And after a few tries of Diavolo trying to kill him and failing, he would try to blow his head out and would succeed.
Another thing to keep in mind is that King Crimson effortlesly cut off Gold Experience's arm. The same arm with enough strength for that car destroying feat
Your pretty wrong, during narancias death he picks up narancia and throws him into the gate, diavolo can also touch things during time skip as shown with the laptop scene
Just Me King Crimson didn’t do jack, he just waited until someone was fated to take said damage or have something done to them and he skipped time, maybe diavolos would have been actions also happen in skipped time?
Дио: вампир Также Дио: умирает от удара в коленку ДьявОло: разрывает шею, лишается кислорода на несколько минут, теряет литры крови, получает порез руки от Порнолева, искупался в реке с открытыми ранами Также ДьявОло: заперт в петле своих смертей
we've never even seen diavolo break anything more than a Colosseum wall and you think he's building+? He's not much more than kyle on monster energy punching a hole through drywall after his mom yells at him
I mean he broke Gold Experience's skull at one point which revealed Requiem, like what Jotaro did to Dio in Part 3. He's on par with Star Platinum for sure.
@@SeriousStriker Stands don't have much resistance to damage, punching open gold experience was different from dio because jotaro and dio were matching speed and power to nullify any damage, its why jotaro took the full force of the punches to his body, breaking ribs with single punches. Stands can only really resist things by stopping the user from making impact like how star platinum saved him from fall damage on to the road roller bridge.
Bruh they need to remake heritage of future and put more characters from other parts. I'd love to see how diavolo would work I'd der main him. But that'll never happen...
...seen through it. Your movements in the future. The trajectory of your movements in the future. Within King Crimson’s ability, the world’s time disappears, and no one remembers the movements they made within this segment of time. The clouds in the sky don’t realize they’ve broken apart. A flame that’s extinguished doesn’t even realize the moment it went out. All that remains in this world are the results. In the world where time has been eliminate all movements become pointless! I am the only one who can react to these movements. I can see every single one of your movements! This is king crimson’s ability!
king crimson: *durability is a friggin E*
Kaleb I.A: hIs dUrAbiLiTy iS bUiLdInG lEvEl
Durability is a mistranslation, it’s Persistence. It’s not about how much the stand can take, it’s about how long the stand can maintain their ability. That’s why King Crimson is an E.
Kaleb I.A. So wait, King Crimson lasts for 10 seconds, and that is an E. While The World, without Joseph blood, is five seconds, making it an A? I understand that you can prolong the Time Stop, but still, wouldn’t that make it an E too until it got an upgrade at the end, making it at least a D?
@@mult1versal I'm not writing the franchise my guy, but if we're making logic of it it probably means that King Crimson could've had a better grasp on it's time erasure. Stand stats can already be wonky, but if you go in with the idea of the stats are talking about the stands at hand rather than stands as an entirety, it makes more sense.
Kaleb I.A. Well tbh stand stats are totally useless to compare stands to each-other
@@KalebIA I don't think so, in my opinion the Stand and Stand Abilities should have different stats.
Durability in White Album for example, is well, durability.
On Star Platinum the durability is stanima, i think
“You... should have gone for the head.”
- Donut Survivors
JavaScript noooooo
Donut Survivors, Cripples and Turtles
Kakyoin: No , i dont think i will
Koichi does a dab
*Bruno has entered the chat*
*Kakyoin has left the chat*
Diavolo was so strong, he died an infinite amount of deaths for infinity and beyond.
Oof now that what i call "strength"
you're everywhere
I never know if I encountered you or your mustached brother in the videos I've watched. I'm always seeing one of you.
*dying
Everywhere i go.... i see you
I just love the villains telling their stands name:
-Kingu Krimson
-Dartu Ditzu Dan Darti Chip
-Killa Kuen Biztza Dusto
It's awesome
ZA WARUDO
@@bdd4556 very cool to! Also Si Moon, Uaitu Sneiku and Maid in Heven!
Dee Foo Shee
@@fusk7799 my favorite stand :). I love D4C so much
KIRA QUEEN DAISAN NO BAKUDAN BITES ZA DUSTO
His intelligence is also top tier. I think the way he uses his abilities and strategizes makes him one of if not the most competent combatant.
Nick T what makes him even more dangerous is the fact that unlike most villains he doesn’t waste time killing . No pun intended.
Devin Uzumaki Bruno was able to outpredict him each and every time, but then again maybe that was just determination
Val the thing is Bruno ended up becoming one of the most strategic fighters in Jojo and by the time he fought Diavolo you could tell he did well for what he could but King Crimson was broken.
True but Risotto Nero and Metallica gave him a pretty good fight (mostly Doppio)
@@higgsmonaghan2019Risotto was an experienced fighter, his literal job is to assinate targets
I'm Italian, and your "doppio" is right
nice
Giuseppe Di Maio my sweet Doppio
Thx to me yo
Can conferm
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When you realize a mob boss killed a cripple.
SamBoy115 not truly outta the ordinary for the mafia imo
That crippled possessed a turtle
The mob boss originally made him a cripple then finished him off (kind of) 🐢
*That's how mafia works.*
And?
King crimson is just lagging
Ping Krimson
He's the CoD host
FPS crimson
Yep
PINGU CRIMUSUN NO LAGUKU!
*tps to Giorno*
The man is a unit
But he's also extremely secretive and not wanting to do the most
i literally read this when he said that 😂
I thought he was the squad
I’m sorry
I’ll leave
@@herpydepth1204 he's bad company of part 4
Diego wanna become a true jojo villain
KC is actually really easy to explain. Go to any youtube video and skip 10 seconds. It sounds weird, but it actually makes sense.
Those 10 seconds in the video happened, and what happened there is 'fate', of which only KC is aware of. You, however, are not aware. You don't know what happened between those 10 seconds, you only know the results.
This is the best explanation I've ever read
I love how at 3:06 Diavolo gets mad at a video of his stand and just Breaks the keyboard
you gotta realise.
hes watching on file explorer
"I will now explain King Chrimson."
"It just works."
Good enough explanation for me
I know this is a joke but what is the confusion with my ability?
...seen through it. Your movements in the future. The trajectory of your movements in the future. Within King Crimson’s ability, the world’s time disappears, and no one remembers the movements they made within this segment of time. The clouds in the sky don’t realize they’ve broken apart. A flame that’s extinguished doesn’t even realize the moment it went out. All that remains in this world are the results. In the world where time has been eliminate all movements become pointless! I am the only one who can react to these movements. I can see every single one of your movements! This is king crimson’s ability!
Diavolo is so strong he cleaned a room and ran away with everything in just 10 fucking seconds
Wish I had that ability
I guess Diavolo can attack real people inside Time Skip as long as if he uses Epitaph, sees their enemy being killed by him, and then just erases
My thinking is that it's more like the enemy was fated to take that damage, so they do. Everyone affected by King Crimson follows the fate they would have in those seconds without realizing it. That's likely how Trish got kidnapped or Narancia got impaled on the bars. King Crimson never touched them, but they were moved as if it did.
@@demi-femme4821 So you're saying that even his would-have-been actions happen as well, causing for all results to be carried over to after the time skip. That actually makes sense.
It just works
Nich White
Makes sense. Narancia and Trish wouldn’t have perished or kidnapped so suddenly if that wasn’t even partially the case.
this comment is confusing
One big thing you missed is the interaction between Epitaph and King Crimson that essentially DOES allow King Crimson to attack in deleted time.
The scenes I'm referring to are Diavolo kidnapping Trish and killing Narancia. In these scenes, Diavolo can apparently attack and take action in deleted time. How do he do that?
So when Epitaph makes a prediction, that outcome WILL happen. There is no way to prevent Epitaph's prediction from happening. King Crimson can cheat this personally, for Diavolo, as during deleted time he can't suffer any external consequences, but all other people still do suffer those consequences, even if they're effects of actions King Crimson _would have taken_ in the deleted time.
So if Epitaph predicts King Crimson is going to cut Trish's arm off and carry her away, Diavolo can just skip past the timeframe where that happens. Diavolo goes into his weird deleted time state as normal, and outside of that state "time" "progresses" as normal. Meaning that at the end of the deleted time segment, Trish still has her arm cut off and has been moved some distance, even though King Crimson never _did_ that, because it deleted the timeframe where that event would have happened.
This is why it's best to think of King Crimson as actually *deleting* the time, not just skipping past a timeframe where things actually did happen, because he's able to negate himself not doing things, because nothing happened in that timeframe.
In the timeframe where Narancia would have died, the following would have happened:
The gang are sitting around discussing where Bruno and Diavolo are
King Crimson bursts out of Mista's body, grabs Giorno's body and yeets it onto some spikes. Everyone else panics, and maybe King Crimson even gets damaged.
A lengthy fight would have ensured
But because of time erasure, the following is the case:
The gang are sitting around discussing where Bruno and Diavolo are
_King Crimson bursts out of Mista's body, grabs Giorno's body and yeets it onto some spikes. Everyone else panics, and maybe King Crimson even gets damaged_ *Diavolo watches these actions play out from his hiding place in Trish's soul*
The gang continue to discuss the bodyswap, until someone eventually asks "Hey, where's Narancia gone?"
King Crimson is the ultimate stealth ability, as he doesn't actually need to kill anyone himself, just predict that a segment of time will occur where he _would_ kill someone, and skip that time segment. Nobody even notices somebody has died immediately, and Diavolo doesn't need to put himself in any sort of danger. And if nobody has any reason to be suspicious of Diavolo/Doppio, they can act with absolute impunity.
Andrew Cleary that was an *immaculate* description of King Crimson’s ability.
I was just about to comment this usage of epitaph and king crimson. Well you explained it better than how I would explain it too. King crimson is more of manipulating fate and time than manipulating just time since fate plays a big role in jojo as we know that
Andrew Cleary that was because Diavolo grabbed these victims then activated time skip similar to his clothes the victim is now tangible to him in his time erasure. People don’t remember this because everyone forgot because of time erasure, Bruno was offguard during the Trish scene and KC is faster than everyone else who were already confused af and didn’t know where the attack would come from.
@@Sun-cg6lv I don't think that's particularly likely, all time skip scenes show that Diavolo can't interact with anything else during deleted time. His clothes seem to be just a bit of artistic lisence on Araki's part, if it really was the case that King Crimson could just interact with whatever it wanted during deleted time, why wouldn't it directly show that to us? There are plenty of scenes from Diavolo's perspective during deleted time, yet we only ever see him phase through objects, reposition himself, and prepare to attack the moment time returns, we never see him interact with ANYTHING other than himself and his blood in deleted time. Who knows, maybe his clothes are made from his hair.
I also don't think that sort of speed is justified, we the audience don't see or hear anything after the timeskip either, and King Crimson is seen to be above average in terms of stand speed, but not lightning-fast. The explanation I gave is fully consistent with how fate works in JoJo's, see the Bites the Dust arc as a reference.
Andrew Cleary because we’re seeing it from the characters point of view also he has Mista shot him and he used KC to let the bullets go through also it’s in the description “position himself at an advantageous spot” if he could interact with things in his Time skip the blood trick pol used wouldn’t work as well as it did
There is also the fact that polnareff survived a hit from dio, who's a vampire, and while weaker he should still be comparable in strenght to tarkus, who split a hill and fooder vampires, which can destroy large walls with a destroyed hand casually and on accident while the shockwave sends a 200 pound man flying dozens of meters away.
Also his ability is said to "only leave the results" and in the risotto fight, he is seen being intagible during the time erasure.
So his ability basicaly turns him into a non-corporeal being.
Dio's Vampire powers were very lowered during part 3
@@bernardozanon377 yeah but he still had superhuman strenght, so if he had even 20% of his power, it would still be impressive considering that polnareff is just a -toned down pillar man- buffed human
@@thelastmlg2699 yes, for sure
When I first watched Phantom Blood and that random vampire destroyed that wall with just a light touch I was in shock. Didn't expect this level of power because I was so used to Vampires who are just humanoids with fangs and just a lot faster.
@@Crimzonbreaker yeah, i think the classical vampire used to have super strenght but they decided to make them more "human"
In jojo, they are monsters, so they don't care about "looking human" except for they appearance (most of)
Diavolo is so OP that he had to have a stand evolve to specifically counter his ability just to beat him.
w r o n g
What a madlad
True, but dio is so strong, jotaro had to have the biggest asspull of all time
@@benhawk4214 jotaros didnt even evolve, it was JUST an asspull
@@shadow-faye exactly
Your "Doppio" sounded really italian, It was basically perfect, good job
Source: I'm italian
I can’t wait for how strong is Jolyne Cujoh
Not very tbh
Stone Free is stronger than base Gold Experience
Mixing with creativity and personal abilities she's very powerful
Imo she'd be able to beat Josuke, and give Giorno a hard time. She's very underrated, and while Stone Free is lackluster compared to other JoJo's stands, she makes up with it with her intelligence and craftiness.
Stone free can't even bend iron bars, how can that possibly beat crazy diamond that is on par with star platinum
How strong should stands in part5 be?
Araki:Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Mr. President: Yes yes yes
y e s!
This was spot on, so happy that you noticed king crimson normally attacks after the time skip. It was a tiny detail that people missed that always bugged me🤣🤣🤣
What about Narancia and Trish?
Sasukoso they were fated to have that happen.
@@Natsu1261 wanna know what the worst part is? GER didn't active its ability till the time skip was over🤣
I like how at 3:06, you can see the tabs open "how does king crimson work?" "is time skip broken?" "how to get stand arrow" and DUNKIN' (trademark)
Remember Jotaro just has to say that King Crimson is the same type of stand as Star Platinum
No
If johnny did the same thing the manga would be like 17 chapter
Kaleb: *pronounces Doppio correctly*
Kaleb 3 minutes later: DAHPIO.
6:55 A better explanation for the blood on Giorno's face is that the blood is no longer part of Diavolo once he's splattered it; it has detached from him. And so it is now being effected by erased time, just like everything else. This also explains Narancia getting through the fence.
>Diavolo grabs Narancia/Gio's body
>activate King Crimson
>now Narancia is conscious during erased time along with Diavolo due to being pulled in
>Diavolo pulls Narancia, using KC's strength over the bars. He can do this, because he basically goes Minecraft spectator mode during erased time, becoming intangible. This is shown during Metallica when he uses KC to have the bullets phase through him (this moment also disproves the "fated to happen" explanation some people go with to explain KC). Which means that Narancia will too, allowing him to be moved in between the bars.
>Diavolo de-activates King Crimson, Narancia replaces the matter where he was in the bars due to overlapping the matter; he takes priority, hence why parts of the fence is missing, and his/Gio's body fall into the rest of the fence below. he is dead.
This shit is why I love King Crimson so much. There's so many intricacies to how it works. Not even D4C comes close to being this fun to think about for me
Oh GOD D4C... can't wait for Part 7 to get animated
King Crimson ability is basically like when you are lagging in FPS game and start head shot everyone when your character can move while they can't. The headshot won't happen during the lag, but once the lag gone everyone got headshot at the same time (same concept can't attack during "time skip/lag) but can position the attack (aim/shot at enemies head). Pretty much as simple as that.
6:34 What about that time he replaced the fortune teller’s hand with his own?
Fate
Also when he was gonna attack polnereff in erased time but due to the arrow he resumed time but he had still few seconds left
Yes. Diavolo can still kill you *_indirectly_* during erased time if your fate is to die/to get killed, just like what happened to Narancia.
@@aiofg7545 he throws the punch a millisecond before it ends
2 doughnuts and 1 orange bbq
"The ability to get only the results" actually is probably the simplest explanation of King Crimson's power I've heard, all that would be needed for it to be a full one would be, "and is exempt from them"
"Durability" means the time that a stand can manifest itself and act, not the ability to take damage. (in facts its really rare to see king crimson doing barrages and even if he does, its barrage is really short) I've seen a lot of comments complaining that king crimson has low durability so it shouldn't able to sustain a lot of damage, like if it was made out of weak glass lol.
I think the durability is hugely misinterpreted stat. The stats are context dependant. It has more to do with the nature of the ability rather stands capability.
It's not that his stand can't manifest itself for long, more likely it's not effective against multiple people.
Unlike the World where entire world is frozen, within the erased time the states of things are continuous. Thus it's difficult to predict and to react to the movements of multiple foes.
@@symbolicjohnson7 welp, a stand that does barrages is automatically better against more people, because it can smash its way to its opponent.
Giorno : uses gold experience Requiem
Diavolo .exe has stopped working
Johnny was looking for you
For people who are still confused, i will go over the time erasure in further detail:
KC activates Epitaph, allowing him to see 10 seconds into the future. The future he sees is set, it's locked in, anyone in the range of the time erase goes into a sort of trance where they can only do what Epitaph foresees. During that period of time, KC's user can "erase" unwanted parts of the timeline, for example, to prevent him from being attacked, which basically makes him invincible during the time erase. However, nobody remembers what happened during the erasure, so after the 10 seconds have passed, the time erase will stop, and to everybody else, time will have skipped, or been erased.
I always thought of King Crimson, as the cut tool in a video editing software. He cuts the 10 seconds of the "video," and only Diavolo knows of the 10 seconds that was cut.
That knife spin is a feat by itself
FINALLY HE IS BACK
AND HES HERE FOR YOU
_KINGU CRIMSON_
What if he never left and King Crimson just erased the time that we watched his videos
@@boredplayer7425 if you know the words you can sing along too
I JUST REALIZED THAT DIAVOLO USED A LAPTOP AND KING CRIMSON TO TYPE ON IT SO HE CAN KEEP HIS FINGER PRINTS
Seeing footage of Jotaro while Diavolo's theme plays is such a surreal experience, ngl.
Yo quick question: Did GER go into his timeskip, or did he activate as soon as he stopped skipping to punch/kill giorno? That's what I've always been confused on lol.
We don't know because we only see GER once.
y e s
He does that inside the time-skip, Diavolo says that it is imposible because he is the only one who can act in the time skip
@@GoldenCHR I thought he said that because epitaph was wrong. In the anime at least, it looks like he stops skipping time to punch giorno, then GER activates. I haven't read the maga tho, so I could be wrong
GER affects anybody attacking himself or his user. It affects through everything which is why it’s a op stand.
He's so strong that the only person to defeated him was the strongest character in the whole show.
Whole*
So here’s a question: what would happen if, during the time in which King Crimson is moving through ‘erased time’, a character like Jotaro or Dio stopped time? As in, say they intended to stop time at some point during King Crimson’s erased time state, would they just not appear to King Crimson?
I think it would either show nothing, or parts of the event
It would probably show the entire event happening simultaneously or within an infinitesimal timespan. If he used King Crimson, he can just skip the whole the thing. King Crimson is essentially a hard counter to time stopping as he can just skip the entire time stop.
notsae66 exactly
Diavolo would be unharmed, but confused, he would just see Jotaro/DIO teleporting
Sp and Tw stop time and only allow them to interact with. So there is a time in the stop time and KC can just delete it
polnareff literally said that diavolo is impossible to beat without the requiem arrow.
Meliodas - Ecchi za warudo
Meliodas - Ecchi exactly
Dio could beat him due to regeneration and 9 sec time stop which nearly cancels the time skip
That sounds like the same logic as “Vampires can only be killed by Hamon”.
The World is still overall more powerfull and that's even disregarding Dio's weakened yet still powerful vampire power
Just think of king crimsons time erasure as youtube skip 10 second mechanic and king crimson can edit and will edit these 10 seconds
Which is why even if he was editing the same result from his indirect actions also happen, hence why Narancia was killed.
The single most terrifying enemy stand in the series
Aside from beach boy
Aside from many other stands
MiH and D4C are more terrifying in my opinion... and the world and killer queen are more terrifying too actually, since king crimson can’t interact with anything during time erasure.
@@Archetype784 i thing king crimson can beat killer queen , the other stands i agree
Guys he said terrifying, not strongest wtf
King Crimson is no doubt one of the most terrifying stand from a design point of view imho
"Time to make the donuts."
Kaleb’s back boi’s
Diavolo really does need to aim for the head more. He never learned from Thor and Thanos
I mean... Punching a Hole clean through someone is fun as hell to do
Actually, I guess that the "Now the bullets didn't hit me if that milisecond didn't happen" also works for ignoring the moment when it hits any armor or defense, that's why King Crimson can hit trough flesh so easily, because he deletes the moment when you resist the punch.
YES!! PART 5!!! (Also, great editing!)
I just finished the part 5 anime yesterday, and that got me thinking about diavolo's infinite death.
So I came up with my own dumb way of diavolo dying:
What if diavolo was on a computer on RUclips searching for try not to laugh videos.
He finds one that has those titles like "you laugh you die" or something like that.
He starts to watch the video. Then a clip of himself laughing or something and for an unknown reason he laughs too.
Then all of a sudden he starts getting a throbbing pain in his head. The pain gets worse and worse
until.... Kaboom!!!!!! His head is blown up!!!
This was just a little idea I had. Adios
What if diavolo and dio’s stands were swapped I think that would be an interesting thing to think about
Everything would go the same as normal
If diavolo and dio switched stands that would make Jotaro truly invincible, either by showing timestop overpowers time skip, or giving him the power of time skip to clash against the world, which is kind of a paradox
diavolo is such a terrifying villian that araki has never bothered to use his ability again or even draw him or acknowledge thag he ever existed
wait
Oh for sure one of my favourite characters
4:37 I like to think that silver chariot is fast enough to react but silver chariot isn't strong enough to parry king crimson
It doesn't really matter how fast King Crimson is, because he always acts before the opponent. He can see when the opponent will attack so he just erases time BEFORE that, making his speed irrelevant in time erasure as he always attacks first.
Main Antagonist: *Can you just fight me Fairly without even evolving your stand!?*
Giorno, Johnny: no
If diavolo can throw blood and keep his clothes on I have the theory that he could throw knives similar to dio in his time erasure if he has them connected to him first, this would be op because people stuck in time erasure wouldn't be able to counter these knives because they are forced to do what they were going to do in this erased time.
The blood only worked because it was part of his body
The funny thing is that we may have already been in a Time Skip and we never even noticed
King Crimson more like
haha get it?
W h a t
My Chrome crashes when he explain the Diavolo power, 10/10 excelent immertion
Yeeeee, new vid
POG, finally a new vid
When you realize that if diavolo would have attacked giorno and not his stand he would have one .
Awesome work bro keep it up👍
The donut store has amazing donuts, cherry donut and the blueberry donut are my favorite, my least favorite is honestly the 3 hole donut.
I think it’s fair to say that when he held up the fortune teller that it was just the strength from King Crimson given that you often see Diavolo substituted for KC during some scenes due to his E in Range.
I just noticed King Crimson wears rubber shoes 0:58
Clown Crimson.
Am I a Fucking Joke to you?! I’m a literal jester.
Rubber soles
They the limited edition Jordans
lit
Ok I think I have a pretty solid idea of how king crimson works. He uses epitaph to look 10 seconds into the future. If what appears in the future is is bad for him, he has king crimson let him break free of fate for 10 seconds. This means that he can move freely during those 10 seconds while everyone else is still bound by fate and forced to live by it.
I feel like a better way to describe King Crimson's ability is just to say that he can "control his fate and his fate alone for up to 10 seconds". I've though about this for a while and feel like this is the best way to describe it.
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what if Kira could plant bite the dust in himself and just tell someone who he is and boom its rewind time
Or if he worked with someone who wanted to work with him
Man I love these videos
This is you best video to date!!!
Also does diavolo/doppio and king crimson have the best character and stand design .
Me: *watches kaaleb content for more than a year*
Me: **also realized i havent subbed**
This must be the work of an enemy stand
In my opinion: DIO is WAY stronger than Diavolo because:
-Diavolo: confusing time stop but he can't attack others while he's in it and everyone can move and do normal stuff in it
-DIO: Confusing time stop but he CAN blow a hole through someone while it's active and that person CAN'T do anything to stop him
Kingu kreesom ichtoff nigh-gohhio.
Diavolo stronger. He has 2 ability. Erase time and epitaph. When epitaph active, it will lock the future and KC can erase time to being invicible. That explain why trish and naracia were being injured after time erase
And TS only allow the user move and stop time of the other, in other way, there is a time in time stop. And Time erase can just delete it
Thanks for showing my 2 pink mans some love!!!!
The simplest way to describe King Crismon (my friend told me this) Is "It deletes the cause and keeps the effect"
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Could you do josuke vs jotaro part 3 before dio fight and a location where josuke and Kira fought and josukes has the thing jotaro taught him and I think crazy diamond is weaker or as strong as part 3 and I want see who wins please
Your comment is bad
I always think of time erasure like photoshop layers. Diavolo moves to a layer above time where he can see and react to whats happening, without interfering much, than after 10 seconds, everyone else moves to that higher layer, without knowledge of the changes
Ok so I just a short thing I wanted to say about king Crimsons Strength or at least striking strength i think he is alot stronger than first thought. My evidence is in part:6 Jolyne is fighting a stand called planet waves and it pulled down 2-3 small meteors from space down to earth to hit her with them and she used stone free to punch them off course and miss her so I think it's fair too assume that King Crimson is stronger than stone free and so he is stronger than building level which makes sense for a stand who can shred people with a wave of his hand and I think it's great because it fits perfectly with his vibe of this unstoppable unseen force
Stone Free isn't as strong as Star Platinum.
@@RBlair69 I never said stone free was stronger than star platinum in fact I never mentioned star platinum
@@deadpossum4423 True, but isn't King Crimson stronger?
@@RBlair69 in my opinion yes but there is no actual evidence apart from him destroying people with little to no problem
Yay, he uploaded!
Short answer: *VERY*
"Don't Cry" Ability: Reverses 10 seconds
can Made In Heaven outspeed King Crimson's Time Erasure?
Before he does time erase: KC gets speed blitzed.
@@trueacolyte no he cant because when kc erase time it erase for more like 10 seconds even infinite speed is not enough because 10 second will be passed
as you can see in the anime, the movement of all living being and stands in erased time significantly decreased (notice how bruno moves while his stand speed is A). try to calculate pucci's mih if you can. also, GER's punch is faster than Sticky Finger's during erased time, so...
@@maninthemirror6938 thats not the case actually diavolo erase 10 seconds from the future the movements that mih would do will be erased from time to make it simple diavolo made time move 10 seconds so the speed is not the case here since it will be removed from the time
Made in heaven has infinite speed, there isn't any character other than d4c love train and ger, and d4c love train can't fight back, that means everyone is infinitely slower how if made in heaven wants it can see everything so slow time is basically stopped, and if diavolo comes out of time erase, no matter what there will be time between when diavolo goes to uses another time erase, so because of that made in heaven will be able to end him without being able to react.
So is this why i dont remember what I need to get from the kitchen when I go there?
I’ve been looking forward to this for a while. I know people are gonna start THAT debate and I just wanna say.
I think it’s likely to be a draw
What debate? King Crimson vs Za Warudo?
Idk. Dio's durability is pretty good
@@Picmanreborn as is his stamina since its infinite
Saiki The Psiioniic Diavolo vs Dio/Jotaro to be exact I’ve seen that debate go one for a looooong time
@@danielola-abidoye1365
Diavolo would win against Jotaro easily. Against Dio he would also win but it would be harder.
He can evade any of Dio's attacks and erase Za Warudo's effects. Dio can still die if you blow his head completely unlike the pillar men. And after a few tries of Diavolo trying to kill him and failing, he would try to blow his head out and would succeed.
Another thing to keep in mind is that King Crimson effortlesly cut off Gold Experience's arm.
The same arm with enough strength for that car destroying feat
The Question is...
Do i just work?
G.E.R: not anymore lol
GER: NO
He could've been holding him up by just using king crimson but we didn't see
Your pretty wrong, during narancias death he picks up narancia and throws him into the gate, diavolo can also touch things during time skip as shown with the laptop scene
Your the one that’s wrong, Narancia was fated to die that way.
Snorch fate be like “okay narancia king crimson is gonna break it’s rules to kill you! 1 2 3!”
Just Me King Crimson didn’t do jack, he just waited until someone was fated to take said damage or have something done to them and he skipped time, maybe diavolos would have been actions also happen in skipped time?
Right after he says “now for the durability of king crimson there is a picture of “something”
basically diavolo is op
Diavolo would destroy DIO thanks to epitaph
@@EatDatButt445 DIO wins because he is a vampire with more stamina and regeneration. But Diavolo would most likely kill Jotaro because he is human
Huh, I forgot that Star Finger was used in the Chariot/Anubis fight
Дио: вампир
Также Дио: умирает от удара в коленку
ДьявОло: разрывает шею, лишается кислорода на несколько минут, теряет литры крови, получает порез руки от Порнолева, искупался в реке с открытыми ранами
Также ДьявОло: заперт в петле своих смертей
Diavolo had a kill on sight order for basically everything
Yeah diavolo is wayyy stronger then DI....... And thats why i would love to smash lisa lisa.
Bruh
FINALLY ANOTHER VID
I missed kaleb ;-;
we've never even seen diavolo break anything more than a Colosseum wall and you think he's building+? He's not much more than kyle on monster energy punching a hole through drywall after his mom yells at him
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean he broke Gold Experience's skull at one point which revealed Requiem, like what Jotaro did to Dio in Part 3. He's on par with Star Platinum for sure.
@@SeriousStriker Stands don't have much resistance to damage, punching open gold experience was different from dio because jotaro and dio were matching speed and power to nullify any damage, its why jotaro took the full force of the punches to his body, breaking ribs with single punches. Stands can only really resist things by stopping the user from making impact like how star platinum saved him from fall damage on to the road roller bridge.
@Stealth Because not every stand can reliably block all damage, punching is just one type of damage and the only type of damage stands can really tank
@Stealth Except even I've been off topic, gold experiences skull was completely unguarded
I think doppio weakness is him being distracted by his froggy phone
And condom broke
Bruh they need to remake heritage of future and put more characters from other parts. I'd love to see how diavolo would work I'd der main him. But that'll never happen...
All Star Battle and Eyes Of Heaven
@@Indovamp they ain't as good
I want the graphics to be with sprites also
...seen through it. Your movements in the future. The trajectory of your movements in the future. Within King Crimson’s ability, the world’s time disappears, and no one remembers the movements they made within this segment of time. The clouds in the sky don’t realize they’ve broken apart. A flame that’s extinguished doesn’t even realize the moment it went out. All that remains in this world are the results. In the world where time has been eliminate all movements become pointless! I am the only one who can react to these movements. I can see every single one of your movements! This is king crimson’s ability!