Clips: Is your Revolver properly timed?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

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  • @tw130
    @tw130 3 года назад +27

    Who would have thought that revolvers and comedy have so much in common. It's all about the timing.

    • @TheBasil36
      @TheBasil36 3 года назад

      Meh, the people who would learn and apply info are not the people who argue “things there smith friend showed them.”

  • @JamesThomas-gg6il
    @JamesThomas-gg6il 3 года назад +52

    I learned about the differences in the lock up of smiths and webleys, when i started collecting revolvers. Now i check things differently. Very good info Othias.

  • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
    @MaxwellAerialPhotography 3 года назад +96

    “…but really you just didn’t understand the mechanism.”
    You’ve just described 87% of gun show attendees and described the source of 92% of fudd lore.

    • @dzejrid
      @dzejrid 3 года назад +5

      Mandatory "do you have any statistical data that provide those numbers?" comment.

    • @luansagara
      @luansagara 3 года назад +10

      @@dzejrid mandatory "80% of statistics used in arguments are made up on the spot" reply

    • @chitoryu12
      @chitoryu12 3 года назад +14

      @@dzejrid Really fun thing to do: whenever anyone talks about the enhanced stopping power of .45, ask if they ever read the actual data from the Thompson-LaGarde tests.

  • @Pcm979
    @Pcm979 3 года назад +50

    When you're looking down the barrel and rotating the cylinder it looks like James Bond is going to shoot me during an eclipse.

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB 3 года назад +4

      Now I have the theme in my head. 😛

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад +3

      @@LadyAnuB you say that like it's a bad thing!

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB 3 года назад

      @@ScottKenny1978 😅

  • @mannys9130
    @mannys9130 3 года назад +14

    I still cherish my Anvil shirt.

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke 3 года назад +10

    Interesting! Thanks, Othias! I have a Colt Army Special 38, and I at first thought it was worn out - the cylinder was really sloppy even when the hammer was at full cock. Then I did a little research, and found that it locks up as tight as a drum as soon as the trigger is pulled.

  • @chrisedwards9156
    @chrisedwards9156 7 месяцев назад

    This video was more informative On this particular subject then at least 90% of the videos that are available on RUclips. I am watching for entertainment value cause I love your channel but I am always happy to see Educational videos. Because when it comes Information Videos you do, 99.9% of the time you are correct And when you're not you correct yourself later.

  • @RugbyRyan
    @RugbyRyan 3 года назад +2

    Idk anything about guns but I check up on this channel every now and then to see how it’s doing because I met the host at the CofC atheist club in like 2016 when I was a freshman and it’s cool so this channel do well.

  • @alucardthedumbyhead7970
    @alucardthedumbyhead7970 3 года назад +2

    I will keep this in mind when I go to the gun show this Sunday. Plus thanks I did not know this about some revolvers.

  • @nononononononononononon1221
    @nononononononononononon1221 3 года назад +5

    Posting a way to fix a Bodeo revolverhere, because I found a really weird problem they can run into that I managed to fix on mine. And there is nowhere else to post this.
    Bodeo revolvers have a rubber spacer in the hammer that pushes against the hammer nose. It can dry up and degrade over time. Just cut a piece off the sole of an old boot in about the same shape and put it in the hammer, it'll fix almost all jamming and trigger pull issues.

  • @Sanguivore
    @Sanguivore 6 месяцев назад

    Very helpful video! Thanks a bunch, Othias! ☺️

  • @laheu
    @laheu 3 года назад +4

    Endoscopes are also cheaply available these days, especially for industrial or automotive purposes

  • @danschneider9921
    @danschneider9921 3 года назад +3

    Thank you- I am a revolver nerd, I don't know much, but I know wheelguns and I cant tell you how many times I have tried to tell folks this method...

  • @orianhullinger7999
    @orianhullinger7999 3 года назад +2

    This is excellent Clips content.

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 3 года назад +8

    This is great information since I'm actually looking to buy my first revolver. My Dad was a wheel gun guy, but it took a while for me to get the itch.

    • @toast1012
      @toast1012 3 года назад

      please dont waste ur money on a taurus or rossi. their quality control is on par with chinese fake eggs. My S&W is the best revolver ever.

    • @roboman3678
      @roboman3678 3 года назад

      Good choice I own 7 wheelguns currently. Always looking for more if you want a fun cheap starter revolver. Ruger wrangler or heratige rough rider, carry gun in 38 357? Colt king cobra night cobra, Smith 686 686+, ruger sp101. 44 mag big bore ruger super blackhawk Smith. Colts in 45 lc etc.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 3 года назад

      @@toast1012
      The S&W QC isn't what it used to be either.

  • @jimph1966
    @jimph1966 3 года назад +15

    You have, literally, just increased the consumption (and retail value) of "foreign" revolvers in the US exponentially...

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 3 года назад +2

    Okay, the no “shave” November title in the thumbnail image literally made me laugh out loud.

  • @alun7006
    @alun7006 3 года назад +32

    Fascinating stuff as always. Are/were components like hands and cylinder stops typically considered consumables, or something that would be regularly replaced? Seems like such tiny parts would suffer from wear and breakage quite frequently.

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie 3 года назад +15

      Yes, my understanding at least when it came to US police revolvers, replacing and fitting hands and stops was one of the main maintenance tasks armorers would perform. Especially in units that had heavy training rotations, there would be an armourer on the range with a box of spares, because rapid double action puts especially high stress on these parts even with relatively light round counts. There was a reason the leading special police units( SWAT etc) transitioned to semi-autos earlier than regular police, because semis hold up better to high round counts rapid fire than revolvers.

    • @mannys9130
      @mannys9130 3 года назад +7

      No, bolts and hands and cylinders are not frequently-replaced wear items. One would consider a magazine, magazine spring, recoil spring, hammer/striker spring, and finally later on the extractor to be fairly frequently-replaced wear items. Recoil springs only last around 5k rounds. Revolver timing components can last 20-30k rounds. Hickok45's Model 29 has 30k rounds on the clock and it has never had retiming or part replacement. Jerry Miculek would find himself replacing revolver parts quite frequently if these parts wore out very quickly. They don't. When a revolver is built well (tolerances, good metallurgy, proper hardening, etc), timed properly from the factory, and not abused by its owner, it will last a very long time. If the owner swings the cylinder shut which bends the bolt and crane, it will fall out of time rapidly. If the owner fails to lubricate and clean these parts, they will wear more rapidly. When the gun is poor quality from the get go, it will need service sooner than others. Changing a recoil spring is something that can be done in the field. Changing revolver timing parts is something that takes a long time and must be completed on a bench by a qualified gunsmith. A hand must be fitted within its slot, and the face angles and length must be tuned along with the star to perfectly rotate each chamber correctly. A bolt must be fitted in height and width and timed to rise and fall at the correct moments. None of this is something that can be done from a box of parts on training day at the range... 😸 A recoil spring and magazine spring can be swapped on the range by an armorer, but a revolver can't be retimed lickity split like that. Luckily there's no need to do so because the revolvers don't fall out of time and become defective after 5k rounds like a recoil spring will. Amongst all their negatives, revolvers do have positives, mainly that they require little maintenance over long periods and they don't break or wear out very frequently. They do still jam however, and when they do it's usually not a field remediated stoppage like a semiauto jam often is. Anyone remarking that revolvers never jam simply hasn't spent enough time shooting and owning one. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @johnh4957
    @johnh4957 3 года назад +4

    nicely done, most in depth and visual explanation ever! I had been wondering just how much wiggle was acceptable, now I know how to tell. (alternate title could be how NOT to pick a turkey)

  • @hillbillyscholar8126
    @hillbillyscholar8126 3 года назад +11

    Holding the trigger rearward in the fired position is the condition the revolver has to be in to use the Range Rods that Brownells used to sell to check the cylinder/barrel alignment. No surprise at all. oO

  • @The-Silent-One
    @The-Silent-One 2 года назад

    This was extremely informative and and insightful. Thank you.

  • @maewinchester2030
    @maewinchester2030 3 года назад +3

    No one else felt like they were at the optometrist with that down the barrel bit? "What's better? 1 or 2? 1 or 2?"

  • @greybone777
    @greybone777 24 дня назад

    In 50-plus years of shooting, i can honestly say that the only revolvers I've encountered that shaved lead was one old colt frontier 22 and a number of Taurus raging bull revolvers. They also shed parts and the chambers were so rough you had to hammer the empties out.

  • @TomSalesJr
    @TomSalesJr 3 года назад +1

    Very useful content.

  • @braindamagedmailman2444
    @braindamagedmailman2444 3 года назад

    Man I love these short, practical tutorials

  • @johnkilcer
    @johnkilcer 3 года назад +2

    This has been revolver moon phases with Othias. Tune in next week.....
    Lol seriously it always reminds me of moon phases.

  • @christopherabernathy6115
    @christopherabernathy6115 3 года назад +3

    Content yes!

  • @kylebradley3
    @kylebradley3 3 года назад +6

    I found this out by buying a 32 police positive that locks when the trigger is pulled versus the Smith and Wesson revolvers I owned prior to this.

  • @Ivanovitch2885
    @Ivanovitch2885 3 года назад +2

    I'd like to see more Clips like these. I'm off to buy a borescope for my phone.

  • @revv45acp71
    @revv45acp71 Месяц назад

    Thanks!

  • @bobconnor1210
    @bobconnor1210 3 года назад +1

    I have seen the bolt (that “stop”) very wiggly on some well-used, otherwise perfectly timed, but badly maintained guns. The bolt itself, the pin (or screw that it rotates on), and the slot in the frame are, of course, subject to wear and often neglected when lube time comes. Many haven’t seen a single drop of oil there since leaving the factory.

  • @randalljeffs7272
    @randalljeffs7272 3 года назад

    Very helpful

  • @timmytwodogs
    @timmytwodogs 3 года назад

    My revolvers are always on time...being late is just not done ;)
    I have always marveled at the amount of skill it must take to properly time a good revolver. A semi-auto can be made by machines but, a revolver requires hand fitting and always will.

  • @peteranderson037
    @peteranderson037 3 года назад +4

    I'm sure the guy who was asking top dollar for the Colt found another sucker to actually pay it after you walked away.

  • @kowalski363
    @kowalski363 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @RhodeIslandWildlife
    @RhodeIslandWildlife 3 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 3 года назад +2

    That thumbnail is hilarious.

  • @BrockvsTV
    @BrockvsTV 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @7.62x25-x
    @7.62x25-x 3 года назад +5

    Any episode about Serbian sidearms in the Great War coming soon or ever? Thanks for all the great content!

  • @Jargolf86
    @Jargolf86 3 года назад +1

    Very Informative Video. Just checked my .357 Korth Revolver and oh Wonder - its perfect Timed ^.^

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 3 года назад +1

      It’s a Korth. If it wasn’t perfect then the explanation would be that it was tossed in a bag of rocks and thrown in a washing machine for 10 hours. Damn bank vaults.

    • @Jargolf86
      @Jargolf86 3 года назад +1

      @@john-paulsilke893 seriously, i expected perfection for 3,6k €. But you know, you see something and you have to check it on your Weapon. And if its just an excuse for handling the Gun :D

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 3 года назад +2

      @@Jargolf86 you had to flex didn’t you. 🤣

    • @Jargolf86
      @Jargolf86 3 года назад +1

      @@john-paulsilke893 Guilty :D

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 3 года назад +1

      @@Jargolf86 let me tell you about my 1970’s S&W Model 41 with a milled in Holosun and custom ported barrel. 🤣

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine 3 года назад +2

    So was that was Tuco was listening for in the gunshop in The Good The Bad and The Ugly?

  • @algomez8563
    @algomez8563 2 года назад +2

    No If the revolver is unloaded and you are checking the weapon operation it is ok to look down the barrel.

  • @brian8152
    @brian8152 2 года назад

    Nearly every revolver I own is a pre 1898 lower priced gun that has a freewheeling cylinder and only locks when the trigger is pulled. But all of them seem well aligned.

  • @garetz2011
    @garetz2011 Год назад

    My Taurus is more like the position at 06:23.
    It fires round nosed and jacketed fine, but wadcutters and semi wadcutters sometimes will jam the cylinder and leave led on the forcing cone and on the cylinder face.
    I am planning to work on this issue, but I am too lazy for that.

  • @thatguyoverthere9634
    @thatguyoverthere9634 Год назад +1

    Then you have the Nagant revolvers. If you manage to fire it out of timing, something is very very wrong.

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard 3 года назад

    Nice to know 👍

  • @con6lex
    @con6lex 3 года назад

    Revolver 101 is more like a master class.

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 3 года назад +1

    Vital broken small part that is press fit. Mark!

  • @chrissutton3043
    @chrissutton3043 3 года назад +1

    I was checking out a friend's new heritage roughrider he had bought, they claim to have the "classic 4 click single action" and specifically state in the manual that the third click is of no consequence to the shooter. Well come to find out, you could drop the hammer on the third click, and the 4th click was so far back it was almost impossible to find. When I did get it into the 4th click, I could grab the cylinder and physically rotate it into the stop bar. Needless to say, I won't be buying a heritage anytime soon.

  • @2copy3copy4cpoy
    @2copy3copy4cpoy 3 года назад +2

    "get a revolver because it's simpler" - guy who has never taken apart a glock nor a revolver

  • @saltyroe3179
    @saltyroe3179 3 года назад +3

    Never owned a revolver, so this is interesting. Is there anything to the scene in "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" when the Ugly inspects the revolvers, spinning the cylinders?

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 3 года назад +3

      Not really. He was making a bug old mess and playing with random gun parts from different brand, styles and types. Really cool scene though.

    • @Bagledog5000
      @Bagledog5000 3 года назад +1

      Pure Hollywood balderdash, but it's still a great movie.

  • @ahmedsaeedmob771
    @ahmedsaeedmob771 3 года назад

    Thanks for the informative video
    Just asking this question and hoping anyone to answer
    Do webleys and most of the old revolvers lock up perfectly when the trigger is pulled rather than when the gun is cocked?

  • @franky334444
    @franky334444 3 года назад

    “I’m gonna regret that purchase…” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @schuylerhayes9283
    @schuylerhayes9283 3 года назад +2

    While the fear around looking down a barrel is warrented, it should not be something you never do. You just have to properaly make sure the chambers are clear first

  • @SNOUPS4
    @SNOUPS4 3 года назад

    Interesting!

  • @Ishmaille
    @Ishmaille 3 года назад +1

    I have a really cool (IMO) 1895 Nagant Revolver that was sporterized for competition shooting, I think in the 1950s. One thing that's cool about the design is that it can't be fired if the cylinder doesn't line up with the barrel. It actually under-rotates a bit right now sometimes and when it does, the hammer just won't go all the way back until I nudge the cylinder into alignment.
    Anyone have any suggestions for fixing that? Maybe replace the hand? None of the parts look particularly worn. Unfortunately parts are starting to get hard to come by for this once-cheap gun.

    • @ponchostevo
      @ponchostevo 2 года назад

      I had the same issue with my 95 Nagant but only with my reloads using the Graf bullet for this caliber. Seemed the weird crimp on factory ammo actually helps overcome this due to the unique nature of this pistol inserting the case in the barrel. It would self-heal the slight timing issue when the cylinder traveled forward. I got lucky and found a hand on eBay that happened to be just long enough to get it where it needed to be and shoot my reloads after all!

  • @ekscalybur
    @ekscalybur 3 года назад +2

    A thumbs up and a giggity for engagement and algorithm purposes.

  • @ch319ris
    @ch319ris 3 года назад +1

    I'm a big fan of the revolver stuff. I think I watched Revolver 101 three times. It's important not to discount their potential as a melee weapon when empty. I'm saying you could smack the taste out someone if you had to.

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 3 года назад +3

    Another way is with a cellphone endoscope like an endosnake.

  • @cameronmccreary4758
    @cameronmccreary4758 3 года назад +1

    This is one of the main reasons why I enjoyed working on the old German automatic pistols i.e. Lugers and Mausers making parts for them years ago. There weren't this type of timing issues.

  • @Gunsbeerfreedom87
    @Gunsbeerfreedom87 3 года назад +1

    My boy 8track could use this video

  • @endutubecensorship
    @endutubecensorship 3 года назад +1

    Remember ladies and gentlemen:
    If a seller hesitates/doesn't allow you to do an inspection that is the first and only big red flag and it's best to move on

  • @terminal8
    @terminal8 3 года назад +1

    Where does the uranium go ?

  • @alliwantisfinancialstabili7414
    @alliwantisfinancialstabili7414 3 года назад

    So I heard that in some Colts their cylinder have a little bit of travel when the hammer locks back, which seems to be the case with my Colt Police Positive Special. Can anyone confirm this? I just want to make sure that's the case because there's a little bit of travel before the cylinder locks in place if I thumb the hammer back gently, but if I pull the trigger in the same case where I thumb the hammer back gently, it's locked in place by the time the hammer falls.

  • @207shark
    @207shark 3 года назад

    Could we get a clips on good books ?

    • @TenaciousTrilobite
      @TenaciousTrilobite 3 года назад +2

      Each full episode has a list of what books they used as references in the description

  • @andym1155
    @andym1155 3 года назад +4

    My Colt 1892 does not want me to watch this video.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  3 года назад +4

      I have a video coming about those
      Short answer is it is probably both the Hand and the Gate Latch that is making it bad.

  • @76kz400
    @76kz400 3 года назад

    Shhhh!!! That’s how you get the seller to knock $50 off the asking price! It’s an old trick with Colt revolvers.

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif 3 года назад +1

    Would a revolver being misaligned lead to noticeable inaccuracy? It seems like just physically having the bullet mash into the forcing cone asymmetrically would make it aim differently but I can't tell if it would actually turn the barrel (which would make it inaccurate) or just move the barrel to the side a bit (which would have basically no effect).

  • @davidmeyer3795
    @davidmeyer3795 3 года назад +2

    Could have used more James Bond theme

  • @exlibris3776
    @exlibris3776 3 года назад

    On older smiths in addition to what you showed I like to bring the hammer to a full cock and then push on it towards the front with my thumb to see if the hammer is indeed fully locked in or will it come off the nock and fall forward. I have no idea if this is timing related or drop safe related but it is something my grandfather showed me when I was young and its burned into my brain forever.

  • @KungFuHonky
    @KungFuHonky 9 месяцев назад

    "The hand is too short if it under rotates?" Don't the hands override the ratchet at the end of travel? Isn't it a matter or width, rather than height?

  • @WalterBurton
    @WalterBurton 3 года назад

    👍👍👍

  • @DebakulumToughguts
    @DebakulumToughguts 3 года назад +1

    👍 für den Algorithmus

  • @lesliealexander5600
    @lesliealexander5600 3 года назад

    nifty
    nevah used a wheel gun, but this was cool

  • @saroarrony3621
    @saroarrony3621 2 года назад

    Do shortcut clips people see who give you a hour or more take as feedback

  • @davidh9585
    @davidh9585 3 года назад

    I thought Mae was boycotting some personal hygiene routines when I saw “no shave November”.

  • @morelanmn
    @morelanmn 3 года назад

    Nice handguns

  • @danielawomi4721
    @danielawomi4721 3 года назад +1

    I wish I have one poor me🤧🥺

  • @loganosmolinski4446
    @loganosmolinski4446 3 года назад +1

    Boop

  • @jshicke
    @jshicke 2 года назад

    I have had a .357 revolver shoot fragments into the side of my face thanks to the guy at the next table having a miss timed cylinder. Not fun.

  • @vladimirmihnev9702
    @vladimirmihnev9702 3 года назад

    A no nut November the time we remember that brave German ww1 painter, fromer pair.

  • @dwardodwardo643
    @dwardodwardo643 3 года назад

    So, even if you are an expert. You need a generous return policy? Tell me how I'm wrong to just buy modern Rugers? (Meant as a sorta joke)

  • @junglesairsoftblog6311
    @junglesairsoftblog6311 3 года назад

    Comment for the algorithm.

  • @novicereloader
    @novicereloader 2 года назад

    In a perfect world, you would have time to be a history teacher, as well.

  • @merlinwizard1000
    @merlinwizard1000 3 года назад

    55th

  • @CTXSLPR
    @CTXSLPR 3 года назад

    New Hat Othias?

  • @toast1012
    @toast1012 3 года назад +2

    this is the literal reason i tell EVERYONE to stay away from TAURUS and from ROSSI! I own a taurus and have to send it back 4 TIMES before they destroyed my gun enough to fix the two chambers that were shaving WAY TOO MUCH LEAD! My rossi is a levergun and it also has MASSIVE tolerance issues. These brands are the WORST. Get literally anything else please. They even gave me the HARDEST time.

    • @endutubecensorship
      @endutubecensorship 3 года назад

      I saw someone return a Rossi lever action to the store because it wouldn't let a new cartridge put of the mag tube on to the lifter.....NEW, OUT OF THE BOX

  • @Marin3r101
    @Marin3r101 3 года назад +1

    Who the hell down voted this. Must've been that man at the gun show....

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

      Trolls, bots, assholes, and other wastes of oxygen.

  • @maxthedog2011
    @maxthedog2011 3 года назад +1

    I dont even own a revolver

    • @con6lex
      @con6lex 3 года назад

      They are tons of fun. Especially 357 magnum with a 6” barrel. Easy to shop w 38 special, loud but manageable w 357.

  • @HSstriker
    @HSstriker 3 года назад

    Tbf if you come across one of these after watching this vid you can buy an overpriced crappy one for cheap just because theyll want to shut you up. Then keep it as an ornament in the house

  • @MarcinP2
    @MarcinP2 2 года назад

    Please people just bring a mirror with you when buying a revolver.

    • @TenaciousTrilobite
      @TenaciousTrilobite 2 года назад +1

      I’m not fumbling with aligning a mirror for a gun I already cleared that hasn’t left my hand since I cleared it. If it really bothers you, point it away from you as you let the hammer down.
      If I’m stupid enough to fail to clear it and I can’t see the obvious bullet in the chamber when I point it at myself, I’m probably doing the world a favor by removing myself from the gene pool.

    • @MarcinP2
      @MarcinP2 2 года назад

      @@TenaciousTrilobite It's more about you raising hair on everybody's neck and just a matter of good culture.

    • @TenaciousTrilobite
      @TenaciousTrilobite 2 года назад

      @@MarcinP2 I’m sorry the quickest and easiest way to properly function test an expensive antique that I’m trusting to safely contain a series of explosions makes people uncomfortable, but I’m not going to fiddle around with a less effective three-handed mirror method just to mitigate an unfounded perceived risk.

  • @Sphinx-19
    @Sphinx-19 3 года назад

    Reprocussion?

  • @potatosurfing6779
    @potatosurfing6779 3 года назад

    i love you mae ; )

  • @googlepissoff5776
    @googlepissoff5776 3 года назад +3

    I figure this is as good a place to ask as any. What are the exact symptoms of a bent cylinder crane on a swing out S&W, the lock work on my dad’s Model 19-3 seems to move alright but in both DA and SA the hammer only comes back about 1/5th of the way, and the cylinder won’t index at all.
    It’s also VERY difficult to open the cylinder latch, my father took absolutely terrible care of it, I believe he flicked it shut constantly back in the 90’s and stored it in a crown royale bag much like he did his Model 10 (which he continues to store in a humid safe in the same way I told him NOT to after I cleaned the surface rust off 2 years ago)

    • @Nomed38
      @Nomed38 3 года назад

      That gives me flashbacks to fuzzy lined cases people used to store their revolvers in. I still need to reblue the Saturday night special that my mother owns that suffered from such an idiotic storage method.