I feel like this challenge with this game serves as an example that “gitting gud” at a game doesn’t necessarily unlock some kinda understanding that makes a game good or fun when it wasn’t previously. If anything the greater your knowledge and skill at X6 becomes the more apparent it is that the whole game is held together with duct tape.
I actually don’t think x6 is that bad, it has issues yeah, but I still enjoy it. I feel like it’s unfair that people crap on this game but give x3 a pass, that has just as many of not more problems. However, I still do agree with your statement, just, feel as though people’s nostalgia or being influenced by youtubers statements affect that games really do have problems and what games are just generally hard.
I would like to add on to the BS on Infinite M that if you're not careful enough he can start regenerating his HP. Not many people talk about it because it really happens but when it does it kills that attempt completely. He becomes invincible while regenerating HP and he regenerates up to half to a full bar
You are right!! I completely forgot to mention this in the video! Shit, that makes me a little upset, haha. I've had him regenerate health like three times.
@@RetropolisZone I've done the no armor x extreme mode run, but I still 100% of the game as no armor x and still use the weapons sadly. Watching this video has gotten me motivated to take it a step even further beyond. I will now attempt no armors and no upgrades. As a mega Man fanatic if that wasn't obvious from my profile picture you have my 100% absolute thanks. Also Axl is my favorite character lol
Yeah that whole Gate stage 1 including the boss Nightmare blob is the prime example for game design of what NOT to do, period. Congrats on clearing the challenge and thank you for doing it so we don't have to.
If I may, I want to thank you for shouting out Yoshi. (At 19:34) He is absolutely thrilled that you gave him a shout out. Thank you for making his day.
I'm happy to hear it means so much to him! His video helped me understand the strat, so I figured it was only fair to highlight where I got the information from. :)
Thank you so much! It's only been a year since I pulled it off for the first time, and it brightens me to see that people are doing it now! You keep going, dude!
Oh hey, interesting that you saw this video! Glad you enjoyed it, and your video was of good help for me to understand the strategy! Had to put it in there as a shoutout.
@@RetropolisZone Hey I've been watching your stuff for years, man! I do quite enjoy your X reviews, and did get a lot out of them, and I'm glad I was able to help you out here! P.S. While it is impossible on Xtreme, it is possible on Normal, but it requires some good luck, due to weapon energy drops from the wolves. There are no health/energy drops on Xtreme, so that strategy is useless.
That's really cool to hear, I appreciate that! Glad you got something out of those videos, and I'm also glad the shoutout actually wasn't wasted! And oh, interesting. What is that strategy for Normal?
@@RetropolisZone Strategy for normal is the same, but you have to *hope* the wolves drop weapon energy, either two small ones or one big one. You need at least 7 Ice Bursts to make it through those spikes, and it is possible to get 7 thru item drops, like I said. The weapon-ups aren't really required, butbthey guarantee you passing through that hellish section
Oh I think I misunderstood, then. I was wondering if there is a strategy where you don't need the Jumper part on Normal or something. I see. Also, since it was just out of the realm of possibility for this video to confirm this: is it humanly possible in real time to beat Nightmare Mother on Xtreme without the Jumper part as X? If it is, then hot damn it rides such an insanely thin line. And obviously I am speaking about this from the perspective of her being Level 3, since you can't beat High Max to open the fortress stages early without a weapon as X.
God I can feel the frustration of playing this game WITH save states (in the fortress) and on normal with ALL upgrades is coming back to me already. The idea that you cleared it without any upgrades on a harder difficulty on native hardware makes me respect your patience to the upmost degree. Boy, do I wish I knew about the Gate cheese back then.
To be fair, you don't obtain the falcon armor after unarmored X, so it isn't really an upgrade honestly. I appreciate you going the extra mile though, that's dedication.
As a megaman player I salute to you, enormous respect to you. I always suffered playing X6 in extreme even with upgrades but enjoyed. Thinking how it was challenging for you playing with those restrictions...man you are a hero.
I already knew the answer to this question before I clicked on the video because HideofBeast did this a long time ago. And without taking any damage, I might add.
A lot of people tend to defend X6 and its impossibility for a no-armor X, because it straight up gives you a barely-neutered Falcon armor for free and therefore the game's platforming and terrain are built around that. That's no excuse, though, because it that were the case, we wouldn't have been given the choice to go Armorless. It was very apparently intended as possible but certain jumps are a few pixels too high or far between safe landings and were obviously rushed builds that never got proper testing. Great effort on finding out-of-the-box solutions where perseverance wasn't enough! Armorless at all is a victory, it's just a shame that "naked" X is impossible to do a buster-only run with.
Good shit as always RZ. Love the smooth transitions from one thing to another. It was also pretty cool to see the whole process on stream, and even contribute to how the video turned out. Now how much do you wanna bet people are gonna find tricks for the game that'll make this possible as X?
At this point, I associate Megaman X6 with you more than Clement. I still remember watching your streams of the Minimalist Run of X6 as X. I offered advice a few times in the second half of the run, and I felt so happy when you not only gave the strategies a try, but were able to use them to clear the sections giving you trouble! I noticed you even used a few of them in this video, such as the Rainy Turloid cycle strategy. Granted, by now, you've probably long forgotten about that stream, and came up with that strategy again on your own this time, but it still brought a smile to my face! Anyway, great job on once again making this game yours. An excellent video, as always!
Maybe we didnt get it, Gate did everything to be "Anti X", so X should be screwed just going in base form without any upgrades against Gate... what made X win this time is that he is capable to adapt and learn new tricks. Everything in this game was made to be anti X... deep lore shit xD
So you know what is really stupid about the Gate fight? In the prototype he can be fully damaged by X and zeros weapons, but their was a bug related to beating him too early so to fix it, they made him fully invincible rather than fix the bug. Really shows the polish in this game.
What the hell? That's so weird, but at this point really nothing should surprise. It's evident at almost every corner that X6 was produced under severe time constraints and was probably hardly play/focus tested.
I gotta tip my hat off to you for beating X6 which is already a annoying difficult game, using almost no upgrades, weapons/techniques, and other collectibles in this game. You must’ve went through hell to beat this challenge, congratulations Retropolis Zone!
I don't know where people are getting this from, but you can *not* wall jump off the spikes in Secret Lab 1 with a damage boost from the wolves. I've verified this multiple times over, so if you believe otherwise you're gonna have to show some video evidence of it.
I can further point out myself that HideOfBeast's little stunt with spike wall climbing in X3 was involving him doing only ONE jump off of the spiked wall between taking the 2nd hit and landing where he needed to at the end of the 5 second performance that speaks for itself. I can take it that the Mercy Invincibility is not long enough regardless, and I don't see being able to clear the given spikes in only one wall jump. Also, the first jump clearly lacks a wolf anyway, so damage boosting wouldn't reduce any necessities. At most, reducing the weapon cost requirement, which isn't necessary anyway, thank you very much Nightmare Mother who would deserve a nickname I doubt I'm allow to say here.
Its a speedrun tactic basically: It would only work if your zero because he has double jump and once you get hit just act fast and jump. there isn't a need to walljump spikes you just get more space to make those landings without much consequence because of the time-window for the s, you just gotta act quickly
You sir are a legend, I tried to play the game on xtreme mode but I gave up after two hours because the nightmare viruses corrupt the hostages all the time and the fourth donut, but you have done the impossible with no upgrades as well you truly deserve my respect keep it up 👍
Well the important part is that you at least have something to use without being soft locked unlike X6 if you run into any gate stage with the wrong setup or have one
The game may not be intended to be played this way, but it still should be possible. The upgrades are all optional and no armor x is a choice they give you to use. Not being able to beat with a character in the game is just bad design. X5 extreme you can beat the entire game with regular x; it’s hard but it’s doable and you don’t have to resort to weird maneuvers like you had to in gate 1. X6 is just trash. Yet for some reason I still enjoy it lol. Idk why
Trying to get the head part on Extreme, going through the entire level to find out "Oh, hey, guess I gotta do this shit again and HOPE the game will RNG me into the room next time". Fuck X6 so much lol
Commander Yammark is Male. (Kind of like Cubit Foxtar in Zero 3) Also, I'm interested in finding out how you deal with High Max without special weapons.
Really cool way to talk through the challenge, the format is quite enjoyable. So I guess the pain was worth, I hope some more videos like this come out in the future.
I was cackling at your suffering until you got to the Nightmare Mother part. Then my PTSD kicked in. I could feel your rage; I was getting angry with you.
That must of been a nightmare to complete. I 100% the game years ago on Xtreme mode and that was a nightmare. I did a no upgrade run with megamanX 1 and that was really hard, but this one is way way WAY harder I imagine. Plus I would like to ask anyone, does anyone genuinely like X6? I don't think X6 is a good but I think the game has some great things about it like the setting design, music, boss designs and the story, but yeah the overall gameplay and level design is what kills the game.
I think they took the worst thing in the classic series and put it as requirement. Weapon requirement to progress stage. You don't believe me? Check Mega Man 1 on NES.
Bravo retro, It was very satisfying seeing you complete x6 like this. If you set your mind of something and have perseverance, you will complete it, no hell on earth can stop you... Unless you are X.
To be honest, X6 has some good stuff like the music and stages looking amazing but otherwise it was a nightmare to play through for me. I even had much more fun with X7 (probably because it introduced my favourite reploid Axl)
Also, friendly reminder that you can still enjoy and even love a bad game without being blind to its many glaring flaws. I have to admit that I, too, have a certain fondness for X6.
Now imagine the same challenge, but modding the game to make EVERY SINGLE BOSS have the same health as Hell Sigma (128 HP) and all bosses at Lv.4 from the get-go (well, also having a special save file to have Zero unlocked without the Black Zero cheat, because defeating a Lv.4 Zero Nightmare gives you Black Zero by default), I can say for sure that Mijinion is the worst boss of the game in this condition (because Nightmare Mother is no different because it has the same HP value as Hell Sigma... almost), and for High Max in Secret Lab 2 as X you can use a charged shot to paralyze him in a very specific way and then use a Maverick Weapon (Magma Blade or the Meteor does wonders) and you'll never have to deal with that ballistic trigger happy phase with X and you can pretty much stun-lock High Max once you figure out how to hit the charged shot consistently... if only we could have the X Challenge workaround were they made the "X-Saber" (yeah, I know is just the Z-Saber) have the Maverick Weapon flag for High Max to make it doable a full "No Maverick Weapons" fight in said mode in Legacy Collection 2.
how about gently caress no actually most of the bosses could use more HP, except infinity mijinion, nightmare mother and nightmare snake, which should all have less HP
WOW! This is insane. And I thought seeing former Gamesradar member and at the time Capcom Unity member Brett Elston beat Wily Machine 7 without using any tanks in 2012 was impressive (Cause in an interview it was supposed to be impossible to beat without a full supply of tanks as I learned from Exo) THIS is something that I think would take a level of patience not possible for someone like me with ADD. So kudos for doing this and finally putting a demon from your past to rest once & for all.
Watching this again after binging the whole X series minimalist playlist. What a journey. I know it's been forever, but I'd love to see you finish the series.
I DO think the most ballanced X game is X4 on the PS era. It's just made to work, it's possible to deal with it with normal X if you want. X5 already feels way too unforgiven without armor, and I dunno why they did it. The laser section is awful there XD. But X6? I really wish I could watch the team developing this game in three or five months they took because eI think this game went through Development hell.
When I was young I thought I was just very bad at this game and had a tough time beating the gate stages. Turns out they are just horrible stages, with my skill being less of a factor.
He made Infinity Majinion way harder than he actually is as X. You can lure him to the top of the screen in order to make the clones. They can’t make bubbles when they’re off screen so you can easily deal with only having to fight the normal boss.
sigma is easy here because that is the aftermath of the battles from X5 thats why he looks like a zombie...and still recovering...his final form even looks like a terminator....X5 is his complete form...
Man, I'm subscribed just because you went through hell to make this video. Thanks for the content. You're awesome! I'm gonna try the challenge with Zero 😁
In Gate stage 1, I think it’s possible to ignore the high jump part entirely and only use one special weapon(magma blade OR ground dash, not magma blade AND ground dash) by equipping the weapon of choice, using it as early as possible, then pausing and switching to another weapon and unpausing to despawn the effects of whatever weapon was used, then immediately pausing and switching back to the used weapon and repeating. I’m talking absolutely frame and pixel perfect, maybe TAS only, but still possible. The way you described it, it also sounds like Nightmare Mother is very possible without any equipment, just extremely, EXTREMELY difficult, but still possible, so that together with the first strategy would mean Gate stage 1 is improved(4 energy increases, two special weapons instead of 4 energy increases, three special weapons/high jump part). I also recall a strategy for Gate stage 2, but I think it’s obsolete. I know for a fact that it’s possible to stun High Max buster only without breaking his shield by being close enough and unleashing a fully charged shot that spawns right on top of High Max, essentially ignoring his shield, though you still have to use a special weapon to deal damage, so no real improvement can be made. Still, if I’m right about the spiked corridor where you use ice burst, that’s Gate stage 1 improved.
X4, X5, & X6 has the best art style imo. Not overly cartoonish, & doesn't feel like a 2yr old toddler's game in which Megaman looks basically like a kid. It feels more mature, and reflects more that you're basically a soldier shooting & killing stuff.
Here's an idea, a character specific run of the Megaman X games. Here's the challenge. Whenever you play as X, you must: Avoid shooting any enemy unless it's necessary for progression (Bosses, Mini bosses, things you can't jump over, etc.) Avoid taking as much damage as possible. Its okay to get upgrades, except for arm parts. When playing as Zero, you must: Go as fast as you possibly can, defeating any enemy in your path.
1: So, X6 Pacifist and Genocide runs? 2: How does this work in regards to, say, killing an enemy, then having to move in such a way that it respawns? Do you have to kill that enemy again, or is it skippable because you already killed it?
@@espurrseyes42 1: It doesn't specifically have to be X6. It can just be any game where you can play as both X and Zero from the start. 2: There could be a kill counter to the Run. You will have to kill the enemy again(if it was in your way like being too tall to jump over or impossible to pass by like the totem in x6) but it will not count if you kill said enemy again. 3: Playing as Zero does not mean a genocide run. It's simply a speedrun.
"X can only use one slash in a combo, but Zero has Z-saber cancels so that's great!" But...X can Z-saber cancel too? If you cancel JUST as the first part of the saber swing hits, you can do the "exploit" of Z-saber dashing with X, with maybe not QUITE as OP results against the bosses. Works really well against sub-bosses like the "doughnuts" though. In particular, you can dash-cancel the Z saber slash around 8-10 times before it starts moving again if you're in a good position, and the swing is wide enough to hit the "dreaded" bottom left corner. Way easier than having to sit there and "pew pew" with X's insanely weak buster (Like okay, I know I'm biased towards Zero, but both X and Zero in X6 feel really weak to me, and X is the worst offender of the two. Zero's Z buster does more work than MEGAMAN'S.....like c'mon, capcom. ; - ;)
Man, watching this just shows how badly they want the player to use Zero, given all the bullshit and nerfs X suffers through. Also, they really did have a hard-on for RNG, didn’t they?
Regarding the Gate attacks with Zero, if I am not mistaken, Zero's saber stays for a bit after the wall slash before he saves it in his back again, similar to Z1 holding the saber in the air and still damage, in x6 the hitbox doesnt dissapear while is still there, so it makes it seem inconsistent with the damage
Congratulations for getting through this, I really enjoy this game as a lovable disaster but I can without a doubt agree that this game was absolutely not designed for no upgrades. The fact you where able to beat it as X only with the jumper parts is an achievement and really showcase how important the part system is for this games progression.. As a tip if you ever come back to this game (I doubt) turning on Autofire makes dash cancelling the easiest it has ever been which could be useful to buff X DPS and allows you to do the Air stall without weapons.
Amigo, desde lo más profundo de mi corazón te digo que disfrute mucho este video, en muchas ocasiones pensé que hasta ahí se podía llegar con X pero me demostraste que si es posible, hasta me dió pena por ti la parte de la Nightmare, excelente video amigo 100% entretenido te ganas un nuevo sub de Ecuador jaja 🎉
I mean this as an actual complement, but I enjoy how much of the commentary was either taken from or inspired by HideofBeast's X6 Minimalist Challenge videos, I'm really glad to see another possible fan bringing his spirit back from the dead ❤
Great job! I could have sworn the Amazon area had the easier to access portal, but maybe that only appears when under the additional stage effects or whatever. As for the Mother Nightmare... somehow I don't remember it being that tough. Granted, I never did Xtreme difficulty (I usually prefer Normal runs, but I did do XTreme on X5), and now that I'm seeing all this... I think the devs really really wanted you to have actually used nothing but powerups the entire way (though, screw the jumps at the start of the stage. Even without the challenge imposed, I have flat out screwed up my jumps by mistake due to the instant death spikes. I usually have a run where this happens). Oh, and Hobo Sigma is... just, seriously? I forgot there are times he just... doesn't do anything. Usually, I have that fallback energy blast thing happen after a hit (usually the first) but I think only once did I have it happen where he just walked forward asking for spare change. ...now that I think about it... does he even turn around? I never bothered to wait long enough to find out, but now I'm curious.
Oof, I was Dreading the Mother recap. It was one doozie of a stream lolz Also You definitely deserve that Gate yell more than once XD Great video! Enjoyed it and have a nice day everyone!
Man I still can’t believe this game has such a warm place in my heart even now. Since my copy of the X collection was scratched in such a way that I couldn’t play X5 this was what I stuck with aside from X4. For some reason still can’t help but to like this trash heap. You’re still a psychopath for doing this challenge though damn dude.
The design of the Nightmare Mother fight is so absurd its honestly impressive. I can't think of any boss in a game that requires both so much luck AND skill.
I feel like this challenge with this game serves as an example that “gitting gud” at a game doesn’t necessarily unlock some kinda understanding that makes a game good or fun when it wasn’t previously.
If anything the greater your knowledge and skill at X6 becomes the more apparent it is that the whole game is held together with duct tape.
I actually don’t think x6 is that bad, it has issues yeah, but I still enjoy it. I feel like it’s unfair that people crap on this game but give x3 a pass, that has just as many of not more problems.
However, I still do agree with your statement, just, feel as though people’s nostalgia or being influenced by youtubers statements affect that games really do have problems and what games are just generally hard.
Soul hackers protagonist
@@JustCallTre Yes, X6 shares similar problems with X3, but it multiplies by 1000
As someone who loves x6, I 100% agree. The more I grow up and had better understanding of the game, the more I saw the problems within it.
@@JustCallTre x6 has more issues than x3 tbh. At least twice as bad as well
This video is an excuse for RZ to rant about Nightmare Mother in detail and it's glorious.
One day I might write and publish that book.
She is a literal bitch to fight.
@@RetropolisZone What basic fixes would you give it. I would slap a tell on it for what direction it goes, as well as for all its attacks
@Retropolis Zone dude I'd buy it!
@Frog - Boy wtf
Zero is so badass that not even the worst level design or the most overpowered bosses in the franchise can stop him
Ye.
I would like to add on to the BS on Infinite M that if you're not careful enough he can start regenerating his HP. Not many people talk about it because it really happens but when it does it kills that attempt completely. He becomes invincible while regenerating HP and he regenerates up to half to a full bar
You are right!! I completely forgot to mention this in the video! Shit, that makes me a little upset, haha. I've had him regenerate health like three times.
@@RetropolisZone I've done the no armor x extreme mode run, but I still 100% of the game as no armor x and still use the weapons sadly. Watching this video has gotten me motivated to take it a step even further beyond. I will now attempt no armors and no upgrades. As a mega Man fanatic if that wasn't obvious from my profile picture you have my 100% absolute thanks. Also Axl is my favorite character lol
The little fucker's Dynamo Man too?
@@LittleMcglitch if you're ok with patches try "x6 tweaks" that way you can truly do a naked x run, no upgrades or anything, even gate labs
Wait, what? I've never heard of this. 0_0
I never stopped to notice how many of the bosses here are based off aquatic life. You got a turtle, a clam, a shark and a water flea.
Good job on the suffering! :D
Queen
Thank you both for the epic content. Live long, and suffer! 🖖
Dang. Man stole your job ma’am.
Come to think of it…? He actually did you a favor.
@@RetropolisZone Technically King.
@@Nathan-rb3qp No, actually queen. Literally they have it stated that she/they pronouns are preferred, it's just two clicks away pal.
Yeah that whole Gate stage 1 including the boss Nightmare blob is the prime example for game design of what NOT to do, period.
Congrats on clearing the challenge and thank you for doing it so we don't have to.
If I may, I want to thank you for shouting out Yoshi. (At 19:34) He is absolutely thrilled that you gave him a shout out. Thank you for making his day.
I'm happy to hear it means so much to him! His video helped me understand the strat, so I figured it was only fair to highlight where I got the information from. :)
Thank you so much! It's only been a year since I pulled it off for the first time, and it brightens me to see that people are doing it now! You keep going, dude!
Oh hey, interesting that you saw this video! Glad you enjoyed it, and your video was of good help for me to understand the strategy! Had to put it in there as a shoutout.
@@RetropolisZone Hey I've been watching your stuff for years, man! I do quite enjoy your X reviews, and did get a lot out of them, and I'm glad I was able to help you out here!
P.S. While it is impossible on Xtreme, it is possible on Normal, but it requires some good luck, due to weapon energy drops from the wolves. There are no health/energy drops on Xtreme, so that strategy is useless.
That's really cool to hear, I appreciate that! Glad you got something out of those videos, and I'm also glad the shoutout actually wasn't wasted!
And oh, interesting. What is that strategy for Normal?
@@RetropolisZone Strategy for normal is the same, but you have to *hope* the wolves drop weapon energy, either two small ones or one big one. You need at least 7 Ice Bursts to make it through those spikes, and it is possible to get 7 thru item drops, like I said. The weapon-ups aren't really required, butbthey guarantee you passing through that hellish section
Oh I think I misunderstood, then. I was wondering if there is a strategy where you don't need the Jumper part on Normal or something. I see.
Also, since it was just out of the realm of possibility for this video to confirm this: is it humanly possible in real time to beat Nightmare Mother on Xtreme without the Jumper part as X? If it is, then hot damn it rides such an insanely thin line. And obviously I am speaking about this from the perspective of her being Level 3, since you can't beat High Max to open the fortress stages early without a weapon as X.
3:16 "Commander Yammark is smokin' hot with her flirty eyes"
Who wants to tell him?
I'd still hit.
I think Commander Yammark is a boy 😐
Also fun fact, the donuts are ouroboros, snakes that bite their own tails
3:22 "Commander Yammark is smoking hot with *her* flirty eyes" Should we tell him?
Sigma was shouting "Useru!", or "disappear!" In Japanese during that attack in his second phase.
Retro, Yanmark is a guy. He even has a guy for a VA. He just sounds similar to X, which is why you probably never noticed.
And? If a guy likes another guy what's wrong with that?
@@horricule451 Because they were mentioned as "her".
@@Plasmawarrior it's a joke you dingus
Evidence?
It’s called “femboy denial”
A madlad 10 years did all this without taking a hit , and had some very funny commentary to hide his suffering
God I can feel the frustration of playing this game WITH save states (in the fortress) and on normal with ALL upgrades is coming back to me already. The idea that you cleared it without any upgrades on a harder difficulty on native hardware makes me respect your patience to the upmost degree.
Boy, do I wish I knew about the Gate cheese back then.
YOU SHOULD NOT NEED TO CHEESE THE FINAL BOSS THO, WHAT KINDA DESIGN IS THAT?!
I legit thought X9 would come out before you were to post anything Mega Man X related again, much appreciated, Retro
Happy to provide again.
Congrats on beating this challenge and especially Nightmare Mother ! This is quite an achievement.
Very well-made video too.
To be fair, you don't obtain the falcon armor after unarmored X, so it isn't really an upgrade honestly. I appreciate you going the extra mile though, that's dedication.
As a megaman player I salute to you, enormous respect to you. I always suffered playing X6 in extreme even with upgrades but enjoyed. Thinking how it was challenging for you playing with those restrictions...man you are a hero.
I already knew the answer to this question before I clicked on the video because HideofBeast did this a long time ago. And without taking any damage, I might add.
A lot of people tend to defend X6 and its impossibility for a no-armor X, because it straight up gives you a barely-neutered Falcon armor for free and therefore the game's platforming and terrain are built around that.
That's no excuse, though, because it that were the case, we wouldn't have been given the choice to go Armorless. It was very apparently intended as possible but certain jumps are a few pixels too high or far between safe landings and were obviously rushed builds that never got proper testing.
Great effort on finding out-of-the-box solutions where perseverance wasn't enough! Armorless at all is a victory, it's just a shame that "naked" X is impossible to do a buster-only run with.
You needing an armor by default to even play a game smh
Yammark is still a guy, no matter how cute you may think he is.
i think we all have that certain character that made us question our sexuality mine was quatre from gundam wing
@@time4manmode945 nice.
I see you literally everywhere I go.
Good, because your pfp always reminds me that I gotta listen to Plastic Love at least once per day.
Still super hot.
Bisexuals win again
Um, I think he mistook Yammark as a female when Yammark is actually a male. I made the same mistake once.
Good shit as always RZ. Love the smooth transitions from one thing to another. It was also pretty cool to see the whole process on stream, and even contribute to how the video turned out. Now how much do you wanna bet people are gonna find tricks for the game that'll make this possible as X?
At this point, I associate Megaman X6 with you more than Clement.
I still remember watching your streams of the Minimalist Run of X6 as X. I offered advice a few times in the second half of the run, and I felt so happy when you not only gave the strategies a try, but were able to use them to clear the sections giving you trouble! I noticed you even used a few of them in this video, such as the Rainy Turloid cycle strategy. Granted, by now, you've probably long forgotten about that stream, and came up with that strategy again on your own this time, but it still brought a smile to my face!
Anyway, great job on once again making this game yours. An excellent video, as always!
Maybe we didnt get it, Gate did everything to be "Anti X", so X should be screwed just going in base form without any upgrades against Gate... what made X win this time is that he is capable to adapt and learn new tricks. Everything in this game was made to be anti X... deep lore shit xD
3:20
*So who's going to tell him that Commander Yammark is a dude?*
So you know what is really stupid about the Gate fight? In the prototype he can be fully damaged by X and zeros weapons, but their was a bug related to beating him too early so to fix it, they made him fully invincible rather than fix the bug. Really shows the polish in this game.
@This channel sure exists alright I think that is the case, either way a really lame way to "fix" the problem.
What the hell? That's so weird, but at this point really nothing should surprise. It's evident at almost every corner that X6 was produced under severe time constraints and was probably hardly play/focus tested.
fighting nightmare mother without any upgrades is one of the worst types of torture out there
I gotta tip my hat off to you for beating X6 which is already a annoying difficult game, using almost no upgrades, weapons/techniques, and other collectibles in this game. You must’ve went through hell to beat this challenge, congratulations Retropolis Zone!
I don't know where people are getting this from, but you can *not* wall jump off the spikes in Secret Lab 1 with a damage boost from the wolves. I've verified this multiple times over, so if you believe otherwise you're gonna have to show some video evidence of it.
I can further point out myself that HideOfBeast's little stunt with spike wall climbing in X3 was involving him doing only ONE jump off of the spiked wall between taking the 2nd hit and landing where he needed to at the end of the 5 second performance that speaks for itself. I can take it that the Mercy Invincibility is not long enough regardless, and I don't see being able to clear the given spikes in only one wall jump.
Also, the first jump clearly lacks a wolf anyway, so damage boosting wouldn't reduce any necessities. At most, reducing the weapon cost requirement, which isn't necessary anyway, thank you very much Nightmare Mother who would deserve a nickname I doubt I'm allow to say here.
Its a speedrun tactic basically: It would only work if your zero because he has double jump and once you get hit just act fast and jump. there isn't a need to walljump spikes you just get more space to make those landings without much consequence because of the time-window for the s, you just gotta act quickly
i recently tried xtreme mode, no challenge run, just xtreme and i couldnt defeat nightmare mother. you are a god
"Watch me torture myself just to prove the point this game is an atrocity of design."
"Commander Yammark is hot" this guy's speaking my language
"Her" oh... _he doesn't know_
Femboys are still good tbh
You sir are a legend, I tried to play the game on xtreme mode but I gave up after two hours because the nightmare viruses corrupt the hostages all the time and the fourth donut, but you have done the impossible with no upgrades as well you truly deserve my respect keep it up 👍
fun fact mega man x4 is also impossible to beat as X or Zero since the sigma boss fight needs the fire weapon for it's first phase atleast
Well the important part is that you at least have something to use without being soft locked unlike X6 if you run into any gate stage with the wrong setup or have one
What a devilish challenge here, but your experience with the series does indeed shine through! Also 15:06, lol
The game may not be intended to be played this way, but it still should be possible. The upgrades are all optional and no armor x is a choice they give you to use. Not being able to beat with a character in the game is just bad design.
X5 extreme you can beat the entire game with regular x; it’s hard but it’s doable and you don’t have to resort to weird maneuvers like you had to in gate 1. X6 is just trash. Yet for some reason I still enjoy it lol. Idk why
Mega Man 1 required you to find the magnet beam. I think it's fine to require you to find the upgrades in order to finish the game.
Trying to get the head part on Extreme, going through the entire level to find out "Oh, hey, guess I gotta do this shit again and HOPE the game will RNG me into the room next time". Fuck X6 so much lol
Commander Yammark is Male. (Kind of like Cubit Foxtar in Zero 3)
Also, I'm interested in finding out how you deal with High Max without special weapons.
Keep in mind, even after this man "got gud" many of his victories still hinged on RNG.
Really cool way to talk through the challenge, the format is quite enjoyable. So I guess the pain was worth, I hope some more videos like this come out in the future.
If I feel inspired to make one of these again, I will. Don't have direct plans for it right now, but I may later.
That jump with the magma blade being brought to my attention is a God send.
I was cackling at your suffering until you got to the Nightmare Mother part.
Then my PTSD kicked in. I could feel your rage; I was getting angry with you.
That must of been a nightmare to complete. I 100% the game years ago on Xtreme mode and that was a nightmare. I did a no upgrade run with megamanX 1 and that was really hard, but this one is way way WAY harder I imagine. Plus I would like to ask anyone, does anyone genuinely like X6? I don't think X6 is a good but I think the game has some great things about it like the setting design, music, boss designs and the story, but yeah the overall gameplay and level design is what kills the game.
Nostalgia and Masochism, is why people like this game, latter for me.
@@mohdadeeb1829 Yeah I would like to know the people who programed the the enemy's and levels and why it was made like this.
that's a big chad energy from you for doing this playthrough
huge respect for you
I think they took the worst thing in the classic series and put it as requirement.
Weapon requirement to progress stage.
You don't believe me? Check Mega Man 1 on NES.
You're a friggin hero for having done this. (Commander Yammark is still male tho)
i wish this video got more attention, i love challenge videos and you're my fave 'mmx youtuber'' please make more please oh please
Bravo retro, It was very satisfying seeing you complete x6 like this.
If you set your mind of something and have perseverance, you will complete it, no hell on earth can stop you...
Unless you are X.
Great playing and breakdown/commentary. The most brutal challenges are always the most satisfying.
To be honest, X6 has some good stuff like the music and stages looking amazing but otherwise it was a nightmare to play through for me. I even had much more fun with X7 (probably because it introduced my favourite reploid Axl)
Also, friendly reminder that you can still enjoy and even love a bad game without being blind to its many glaring flaws. I have to admit that I, too, have a certain fondness for X6.
Now imagine the same challenge, but modding the game to make EVERY SINGLE BOSS have the same health as Hell Sigma (128 HP) and all bosses at Lv.4 from the get-go (well, also having a special save file to have Zero unlocked without the Black Zero cheat, because defeating a Lv.4 Zero Nightmare gives you Black Zero by default), I can say for sure that Mijinion is the worst boss of the game in this condition (because Nightmare Mother is no different because it has the same HP value as Hell Sigma... almost), and for High Max in Secret Lab 2 as X you can use a charged shot to paralyze him in a very specific way and then use a Maverick Weapon (Magma Blade or the Meteor does wonders) and you'll never have to deal with that ballistic trigger happy phase with X and you can pretty much stun-lock High Max once you figure out how to hit the charged shot consistently... if only we could have the X Challenge workaround were they made the "X-Saber" (yeah, I know is just the Z-Saber) have the Maverick Weapon flag for High Max to make it doable a full "No Maverick Weapons" fight in said mode in Legacy Collection 2.
how about gently caress no
actually most of the bosses could use more HP, except infinity mijinion, nightmare mother and nightmare snake, which should all have less HP
My man Yoshi getting recognition in the best spotlight possible, nice!
This just proves that the game was barely play tested, and that it was basically only play tested as Zero.
But he's supposed to be dead!
Just goes to show Zero really is the ultimate hunter.
WOW! This is insane. And I thought seeing former Gamesradar member and at the time Capcom Unity member Brett Elston beat Wily Machine 7 without using any tanks in 2012 was impressive (Cause in an interview it was supposed to be impossible to beat without a full supply of tanks as I learned from Exo) THIS is something that I think would take a level of patience not possible for someone like me with ADD. So kudos for doing this and finally putting a demon from your past to rest once & for all.
Watching this again after binging the whole X series minimalist playlist. What a journey. I know it's been forever, but I'd love to see you finish the series.
Have you ever beaten the X games without upgrades? Or do you replay them and get the armor and upgrades still?
I DO think the most ballanced X game is X4 on the PS era. It's just made to work, it's possible to deal with it with normal X if you want.
X5 already feels way too unforgiven without armor, and I dunno why they did it. The laser section is awful there XD.
But X6? I really wish I could watch the team developing this game in three or five months they took because eI think this game went through Development hell.
When I was young I thought I was just very bad at this game and had a tough time beating the gate stages. Turns out they are just horrible stages, with my skill being less of a factor.
16:34 this scene is a beautiful representation of X6
He made Infinity Majinion way harder than he actually is as X. You can lure him to the top of the screen in order to make the clones. They can’t make bubbles when they’re off screen so you can easily deal with only having to fight the normal boss.
sigma is easy here because that is the aftermath of the battles from X5 thats why he looks like a zombie...and still recovering...his final form even looks like a terminator....X5 is his complete form...
Man, I'm subscribed just because you went through hell to make this video. Thanks for the content. You're awesome! I'm gonna try the challenge with Zero 😁
In Gate stage 1, I think it’s possible to ignore the high jump part entirely and only use one special weapon(magma blade OR ground dash, not magma blade AND ground dash) by equipping the weapon of choice, using it as early as possible, then pausing and switching to another weapon and unpausing to despawn the effects of whatever weapon was used, then immediately pausing and switching back to the used weapon and repeating. I’m talking absolutely frame and pixel perfect, maybe TAS only, but still possible. The way you described it, it also sounds like Nightmare Mother is very possible without any equipment, just extremely, EXTREMELY difficult, but still possible, so that together with the first strategy would mean Gate stage 1 is improved(4 energy increases, two special weapons instead of 4 energy increases, three special weapons/high jump part).
I also recall a strategy for Gate stage 2, but I think it’s obsolete. I know for a fact that it’s possible to stun High Max buster only without breaking his shield by being close enough and unleashing a fully charged shot that spawns right on top of High Max, essentially ignoring his shield, though you still have to use a special weapon to deal damage, so no real improvement can be made.
Still, if I’m right about the spiked corridor where you use ice burst, that’s Gate stage 1 improved.
I literally watched all your vids and when I finished I was sad lol, but finally the king has returned! Welcome back sir😀
Thank you!
Ignored Injured Reploid: Ah you miserable bastard!
Retropolis Zone: that’s why I’m here
Respect, I did xtreme with falcon armor and I was thinking it was hard. You did the game with an harder difficulty!!!
ho wow, didn't except this to come back, last time i watched this channel was with the X8 review!
Hey thanks for coming back, after watching this I had a hidden catalogue of great entertainment to watch through
X4, X5, & X6 has the best art style imo. Not overly cartoonish, & doesn't feel like a 2yr old toddler's game in which Megaman looks basically like a kid. It feels more mature, and reflects more that you're basically a soldier shooting & killing stuff.
It’s easily the best X series artstyle
Central Museum is the stuff nightmares are made of.
I think this game has the best soundtrack in the series. Who agrees?
It's definitely one of the best ones, don't know if THE best one
X: ¡I'm a man!
Zero: You baby little bud.
Here's an idea, a character specific run of the Megaman X games. Here's the challenge.
Whenever you play as X, you must:
Avoid shooting any enemy unless it's necessary for progression (Bosses, Mini bosses, things you can't jump over, etc.)
Avoid taking as much damage as possible.
Its okay to get upgrades, except for arm parts.
When playing as Zero, you must:
Go as fast as you possibly can, defeating any enemy in your path.
1: So, X6 Pacifist and Genocide runs?
2: How does this work in regards to, say, killing an enemy, then having to move in such a way that it respawns? Do you have to kill that enemy again, or is it skippable because you already killed it?
@@espurrseyes42 1: It doesn't specifically have to be X6. It can just be any game where you can play as both X and Zero from the start.
2: There could be a kill counter to the Run. You will have to kill the enemy again(if it was in your way like being too tall to jump over or impossible to pass by like the totem in x6) but it will not count if you kill said enemy again.
3: Playing as Zero does not mean a genocide run. It's simply a speedrun.
"Gotta pay the bills with the skills" I'm writing that down.
"X can only use one slash in a combo, but Zero has Z-saber cancels so that's great!"
But...X can Z-saber cancel too? If you cancel JUST as the first part of the saber swing hits, you can do the "exploit" of Z-saber dashing with X, with maybe not QUITE as OP results against the bosses.
Works really well against sub-bosses like the "doughnuts" though. In particular, you can dash-cancel the Z saber slash around 8-10 times before it starts moving again if you're in a good position, and the swing is wide enough to hit the "dreaded" bottom left corner.
Way easier than having to sit there and "pew pew" with X's insanely weak buster (Like okay, I know I'm biased towards Zero, but both X and Zero in X6 feel really weak to me, and X is the worst offender of the two. Zero's Z buster does more work than MEGAMAN'S.....like c'mon, capcom. ; - ;)
Man, watching this just shows how badly they want the player to use Zero, given all the bullshit and nerfs X suffers through. Also, they really did have a hard-on for RNG, didn’t they?
Regarding the Gate attacks with Zero, if I am not mistaken, Zero's saber stays for a bit after the wall slash before he saves it in his back again, similar to Z1 holding the saber in the air and still damage, in x6 the hitbox doesnt dissapear while is still there, so it makes it seem inconsistent with the damage
I wonder if that spike wall was intentional to tell the player "Don't fight this boss without armor, seriously!"
Congratulations for getting through this, I really enjoy this game as a lovable disaster but I can without a doubt agree that this game was absolutely not designed for no upgrades.
The fact you where able to beat it as X only with the jumper parts is an achievement and really showcase how important the part system is for this games progression..
As a tip if you ever come back to this game (I doubt) turning on Autofire makes dash cancelling the easiest it has ever been which could be useful to buff X DPS and allows you to do the Air stall without weapons.
Amigo, desde lo más profundo de mi corazón te digo que disfrute mucho este video, en muchas ocasiones pensé que hasta ahí se podía llegar con X pero me demostraste que si es posible, hasta me dió pena por ti la parte de la Nightmare, excelente video amigo 100% entretenido te ganas un nuevo sub de Ecuador jaja 🎉
Thanks for answering the question that haunted many of us that dont have the skill, patience and courage to make this challenge.
fyi for anyone playing x6, you can saber dash cancel with x, but the timing is a little harder, in my opinion.
I mean this as an actual complement, but I enjoy how much of the commentary was either taken from or inspired by HideofBeast's X6 Minimalist Challenge videos, I'm really glad to see another possible fan bringing his spirit back from the dead ❤
Dude.....how have you stayed on this plane? With all the suffering and new enlightenment you should have reached nirvana by this point.
Holy shit!! Dad got his smokes from the store.
My husband asked me what I was watching, I said it was a video about masochism
I would say that is the easiest and most understandable way to describe this video to anybody.
Great job! I could have sworn the Amazon area had the easier to access portal, but maybe that only appears when under the additional stage effects or whatever.
As for the Mother Nightmare... somehow I don't remember it being that tough. Granted, I never did Xtreme difficulty (I usually prefer Normal runs, but I did do XTreme on X5), and now that I'm seeing all this... I think the devs really really wanted you to have actually used nothing but powerups the entire way (though, screw the jumps at the start of the stage. Even without the challenge imposed, I have flat out screwed up my jumps by mistake due to the instant death spikes. I usually have a run where this happens).
Oh, and Hobo Sigma is... just, seriously? I forgot there are times he just... doesn't do anything. Usually, I have that fallback energy blast thing happen after a hit (usually the first) but I think only once did I have it happen where he just walked forward asking for spare change. ...now that I think about it... does he even turn around? I never bothered to wait long enough to find out, but now I'm curious.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think Amazon Area's alternate pathway has a gap unarmored X cannot cross.
@@RetropolisZone Even falcon armor x can't due to his too short of an air dash lol
FIVE AND THREE HOURS on Nightmare Mother?? I applaud your determination! Great video!
Oof, I was Dreading the Mother recap. It was one doozie of a stream lolz Also You definitely deserve that Gate yell more than once XD Great video! Enjoyed it and have a nice day everyone!
Make a book about why nightmare mother sucks
Legit MMX6 Xtreme difficulty looks like a rom hack that supposed to be ridiculously challenging for no reason.
Dude, I don’t even want to play that fucking game WITHOUT any asinine self imposed challenges.
Man I still can’t believe this game has such a warm place in my heart even now. Since my copy of the X collection was scratched in such a way that I couldn’t play X5 this was what I stuck with aside from X4. For some reason still can’t help but to like this trash heap.
You’re still a psychopath for doing this challenge though damn dude.
The design of the Nightmare Mother fight is so absurd its honestly impressive. I can't think of any boss in a game that requires both so much luck AND skill.
Very nice. Now let’s see the unarmored Xtreme no damage run
go play the lottery, it's less rigged
Simple,this game hates the player,hates more X and loves Zero
Before watching, I know that jump in the Gate stages will be a problem