HUGE MISTAKE: Sprinting DOWNHILL is more efficient than sprinting uphill. Here's why: Turns out my uphill vs downhill test was skewed because I had infinite stamina. Going uphill takes longer than going downhill, and since I had infinite stamina, this meant that I sprinted longer during the uphill part. So, this test just proved that sprinting longer is faster LOL. I retested with a set amount of stamina and found that sprinting DOWNHILL is more efficient than sprinting uphill. Since you travel further while going downhill, this means you can cover more ground sprinting downhill than you can sprinting uphill which saves you stamina, ultimately making it more efficient. Sorry guys, this won't happen again. NOTE: At 3:45, I meant to say/write that stamina regenerates at a rate of 0.07.
Small thing I wanna mention about the sprinting thing. When you're sprinting up/down slopes, you should hold the button down for the same amount of time each way for accurate results. If you just sprint until you reach the bottom/top, you'll end up holding the button down for longer (and thus using more stamina) on the way up, since you'll be slowed down. I think that's the reason why you got a result of sprinting up hills being faster; because you were sprinting for longer.
this actually brought a couple neat things to my attention 0:57 didn’t know there were two types of critical health. typically when I get to that point I can’t sprint anymore so I assumed it was whenever you get critical 3:25 never really known how much extra end stamina there was, even if that’s a bit inaccurate, still was more than I expected. also didn’t know about the exhaustion animation until now 4:20 also never knew about this refund mechanic typically when I’m in danger I’m focused on running through the chaos 6:20 am I the only one who wanted a “and if you were to somehow hold ___ lbs you’d move at 0% speed”? 9:14 what about jumping before the fall? I never really pay attention to the fall damage on titan and it’s been a bit since I played on it. I’d expect the extra velocity of the jump/fall would carry out enough velocity to kill, right?
You can’t ever move at 0% speed. The limit as weight approaches infinity is 0, but you can’t ever reach that. If you somehow held infinity pounds, _you would have bigger problems than your movement speed._
Also to note, the fall damage doesn't apply to any areas that have pits, such as parkour rooms in the factory, holes in mineshaft caverns, or ravines on Rend's surface. It doesn't matter how slow or fast you fall in those, there are triggers in place to instantly kill you when you pass through them, meaning you'll almost certainly die no matter what. (Though there are a couple of clever tricks to bypass these triggers)
@@ThatBillNyeGuy09Probably the same reason as me and most others, the novelty wore off and those of us who had our fill of modded versions or didn't get into it are just playing other games while patiently waiting for it to get more updates (or our interest to return) It's a good game, just could use some more updates, content, etc. - Zeekers is good with it, it's just that the game had its popularity spike. It's expected and normal :)
And there's this technique I've been seeing recently pop up: When carrying something heavy, you can drop it behind you, pick it up quickly, and repeat until you reach your destination.
The fact you dont have hundreds of thousands of subscribers is unreal to me. The content in your experiments with your LC mechanic videos are top of the line, clear, and concise. I told my friend group who plays a lot to sub and watch ur videos and I hope others do the same. Thx for making the game more understandable o7o7
@@Spooktubersaregoated theres always been a lot of people that use exploit mods or those things that might actually be real cheats, which kinda sucks (reason why adding ppl as friends and playing/using LC discord if you dont have anyone to play with might be a good idea)
just started the video but i have to say that the dance the character was doing in the intro is my favorite dance in that mod besides the continuous backflip. enabling the move while dancing feature is hilarious while you back flip your way out of bad situations
A question on my mind is if weight effects the regeneration of stamina (I.e heavier = slower recovery) or if its the exact same regardless of weight? Video was very informative and cleared up a good amount of in-game discrepancies. 👍
Do you even plan on making a video about monster spawning ? Like how some monster can only spawn once, what specific time they spawn at etc also im glad to see you listened to you community about your thumbnails !! really apreciate it
Hey Alter, I just wanted to let you know that there may be a minor error in the video. It says when moving that you regenerate 0.7 stamina per second, but I think its supposed to say 0.07 per second. Timestamp: 4:00
Your videos are so insightful, they helped me get so much better at the game and reach pretty high quotas with my friends I'm glad you moved away from using generative AI for thumbnails too
Very informative video! Only thing missing that I wish you covered is peak sprint speed, and how to maintain it. It actually takes a few seconds of sprinting for you to reach peak sprint speed, which is why waiting until your sprint meter is as full as possible before sprinting is important. You can also keep your peak sprint speed if you stop moving but continue to hold down shift. You'll slowly regain stamina, and when you start moving again, you'll be going MUCH faster.
ok, thanks for the confirmation that oxygen instantly regenerates cause I've been meaning to check if it does for like at least the past month and just never did lmao 3:41 minor typo, i'm guessing that's supposed to be 0.07 4:19 i'd consider this more like getting adrenaline rather than a "refund" for the sprint up/down a hill, how did the stamina usage compare? cause I'm not sure I quite buy sprinting up a hill being "more efficient" just because the runs that did so were faster. they could be faster just because you were sprinting longer when going up compared to going down.
Regarding the sprinting uphill vs downhill tests, wouldn't the results be skewed by the fact that you travel longer uphill than downhill? Going uphill is slower, so if you cover the same distance on both slopes, the uphill one will naturally have you sprinting for a larger portion of your total travel time. This could explain why sprinting uphill gave a greater time reduction, as you're literally sprinting more on those tests.
yup, all he's proved is that sprinting for longer is faster, which is obvious... a better test would be to spend a fixed amount of stamina (say, 25% of your stamina bar) and see if it's more effective if you use that amount of stamina on the uphill, flat, or downhill sections.
i shared all of these lethal company vids with my friends because they really help us and i mean REALLY help us. one time i almost died from an old bird but i remembered the old bird AI vid and i made it out alive w scrap. so ty
love your videos, very interesting facts and well produced. im not a speed runner or anything, im just really autistic and have a fixation on lethal company. keep it up
until he does, i can offer a "brief" explanation the first quota of the game is always 130 after every quota you complete, the game calculates a value of (1 + [quotas completed]^2 / 16) it then multiplies that value by a 100 and that's the base quota increase after that, it generates a random number between 0 and 1 and puts it into a unity animation curve to get a number between 0.5 and 1.5. the result is skewed towards 1 outside of the extremes (80% of the time, the number will be between 0.86 and 1.17). the base quota increase is multiplied by the number it gets from the curve. your new quota is the result of that added to the quota you just completed. luck is a value that ranges from -0.012 to 0.1545, although I'll refer to it as a percent (i.e -1.2% to 15.45%). the way it impacts the quota calculation is pretty simple. it takes that random number between 0 and 1 and reduces it by x%, where x is the luck (and yes, negative luck results in an increase). this happens before the number gets fed into the animation curve. because of this, having more than 7.5% luck means the curve will never give a number higher than 1.2, and max luck means it'll never give a number higher than 1.15. the luck value is calculated when you complete a quota, based on the furniture that you had placed down when you completed the previous quota and _still_ have placed down without having removed it _at any point_ during the quota. (this does mean negative luck from furniture can be ignored just by storing it and immediately placing it back every quota) if you wanna know what the animation curve used to randomize the quota looks like or what the luck values are for the different furniture, i'd recommend the profit quota page on the fandom wiki. my personal recommendation is to get the disco ball and television if they're available as they give 6% and 2% luck respectively, which is more than half of the max you can get.
This game was already at like 200k players and now it’s at 20k active players last time I checked, which is not dead or dying it’s the natural cycle of games and it’s still a huge amount of players
for the slopes, did it take the same amount of stamina when going up/down the hills? like did the downhill take more/less/the same amount of stamina as the uphill did
You have to take into account the extra amount of time you are taking running up the hill. It’s faster but you use more stamina. You should redo the test with a controlled amount of stamina or extend the amount of downhill time
"Since fall damage is calculated by the distance you're falling, it would obviously be consistent whether or not you're moving" The heinous hypotenuse:
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HUGE MISTAKE: Sprinting DOWNHILL is more efficient than sprinting uphill. Here's why:
Turns out my uphill vs downhill test was skewed because I had infinite stamina. Going uphill takes longer than going downhill, and since I had infinite stamina, this meant that I sprinted longer during the uphill part. So, this test just proved that sprinting longer is faster LOL.
I retested with a set amount of stamina and found that sprinting DOWNHILL is more efficient than sprinting uphill. Since you travel further while going downhill, this means you can cover more ground sprinting downhill than you can sprinting uphill which saves you stamina, ultimately making it more efficient. Sorry guys, this won't happen again.
NOTE: At 3:45, I meant to say/write that stamina regenerates at a rate of 0.07.
its been 2 minutes and you havent retested already??? not my youtuber :(
Thank you dude I just needed that clear up
Small thing I wanna mention about the sprinting thing. When you're sprinting up/down slopes, you should hold the button down for the same amount of time each way for accurate results. If you just sprint until you reach the bottom/top, you'll end up holding the button down for longer (and thus using more stamina) on the way up, since you'll be slowed down. I think that's the reason why you got a result of sprinting up hills being faster; because you were sprinting for longer.
lol
Nah dude these guides help so much, straightforward and to the point
fr, the quality and flow too
Real
At this point, I feel like I know more about this game I never play than most people who play frequently.
the more you know, the less fun the game becomes.
this actually brought a couple neat things to my attention
0:57 didn’t know there were two types of critical health. typically when I get to that point I can’t sprint anymore so I assumed it was whenever you get critical
3:25 never really known how much extra end stamina there was, even if that’s a bit inaccurate, still was more than I expected. also didn’t know about the exhaustion animation until now
4:20 also never knew about this refund mechanic typically when I’m in danger I’m focused on running through the chaos
6:20 am I the only one who wanted a “and if you were to somehow hold ___ lbs you’d move at 0% speed”?
9:14 what about jumping before the fall? I never really pay attention to the fall damage on titan and it’s been a bit since I played on it. I’d expect the extra velocity of the jump/fall would carry out enough velocity to kill, right?
You can’t ever move at 0% speed. The limit as weight approaches infinity is 0, but you can’t ever reach that. If you somehow held infinity pounds, _you would have bigger problems than your movement speed._
@ ah okay. I didn’t look at the formula too much soo that’s on me :P
@@TheAverageChair You’re good. I do wish there was a way to get zero, or even negative movement speed
@@TheAverageChair Scratch that, if you held -105 pounds you would break the fucking universe
@ *moves forward and in doing so walks backwards at tremendous speeds*
Masterclass is the perfect name for this high quality guide. Appreciate it, brother 🎉
Also to note, the fall damage doesn't apply to any areas that have pits, such as parkour rooms in the factory, holes in mineshaft caverns, or ravines on Rend's surface. It doesn't matter how slow or fast you fall in those, there are triggers in place to instantly kill you when you pass through them, meaning you'll almost certainly die no matter what. (Though there are a couple of clever tricks to bypass these triggers)
I don’t even play lethal company anymore but I still watch these videos because he just makes them so entertaining
Out of curiosity, what made you stop playing?
I would like to know as well 😢
@@ThatBillNyeGuy09Probably the same reason as me and most others, the novelty wore off and those of us who had our fill of modded versions or didn't get into it are just playing other games while patiently waiting for it to get more updates (or our interest to return)
It's a good game, just could use some more updates, content, etc. - Zeekers is good with it, it's just that the game had its popularity spike. It's expected and normal :)
@@Content_Deleted I can see that. Honestly, I think I may be losing interest too
And there's this technique I've been seeing recently pop up: When carrying something heavy, you can drop it behind you, pick it up quickly, and repeat until you reach your destination.
People have been using that since the games launch, great tip
i never use that because its cheating and i hate cheaters
@@gorlixWhat about it is cheating?
@@gorlixL ragebait
@@Banana97286 picking up an item and throwing it on ground should waste more stamina than just straight carrying it
The fact you dont have hundreds of thousands of subscribers is unreal to me. The content in your experiments with your LC mechanic videos are top of the line, clear, and concise. I told my friend group who plays a lot to sub and watch ur videos and I hope others do the same. Thx for making the game more understandable o7o7
bro you are so underated keep the cooking
LC has a lot less players than it did before
@@z_xd_lol agreed but still a lot of players still play, I hate the number of hackers it is annoying.
@@Spooktubersaregoated theres always been a lot of people that use exploit mods or those things that might actually be real cheats, which kinda sucks (reason why adding ppl as friends and playing/using LC discord if you dont have anyone to play with might be a good idea)
@@z_xd_lol Nah I have people to play with, but sometimes rarely if nobody is on ill do a pub.
@@Spooktubersaregoated i did that too sometimes bc pubs can be fun but imo the old big lobbies with like 8-10 people were the most fun (rip)
Best intros ever 🔥🔥🔥
literally flawless video
just started the video but i have to say that the dance the character was doing in the intro is my favorite dance in that mod besides the continuous backflip. enabling the move while dancing feature is hilarious while you back flip your way out of bad situations
production value just keeps going up. great vid!
Holy, I love that intro so much.
Your editing has gotten SO much better.
3:44 is there a mistake here?
yeah, it's supposed to be 0.07 when sprinting instead of 0.7 (times are correct)
alter ego forgot a zero is what i'm guessing
I am becoming better every time this guy uploads a video, thank u so much!
A question on my mind is if weight effects the regeneration of stamina (I.e heavier = slower recovery) or if its the exact same regardless of weight?
Video was very informative and cleared up a good amount of in-game discrepancies. 👍
Weight has no effect on regeneration. You’ll regenerate stamina the same amount no matter how much weight you’re carrying.
Do you even plan on making a video about monster spawning ? Like how some monster can only spawn once, what specific time they spawn at etc
also im glad to see you listened to you community about your thumbnails !! really apreciate it
Yet another quality Alter Ego upload. Don’t get a power trip at 100k.
This series just gets better and better! So much good info in this episode!
Hey Alter,
I just wanted to let you know that there may be a minor error in the video. It says when moving that you regenerate 0.7 stamina per second, but I think its supposed to say 0.07 per second.
Timestamp: 4:00
I didn’t even realize, thanks for letting me know!
fire intro
I love your guides they’re so helpful!! Me and my friends are somewhat better at the game because of them
babe wake up, alterego dropped
0.7 != 0.07 ( 3:44 - 4:06 )
Came here to see if somebody else saw this too.
alright good I was hoping someone else caught that one of those numbers weren’t right lol
I would be interested in learning about the technical aspects of how tzp affects speed and stamina
what about running backward while dropping and grabbing a large item
Your videos are so insightful, they helped me get so much better at the game and reach pretty high quotas with my friends
I'm glad you moved away from using generative AI for thumbnails too
2 for 2 on the new intros 🔥🔥🎉🕺
Finally now I can know my health, stamina and weight!
*EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER WANT.*
Amazing video!Keep up the good work.
Hope we get an update soon, I know zeekers lost interest in lethal company and it bums me out
Please continue making experiences liké with running with and without scrap, and on thé différents degrees
Very informative video! Only thing missing that I wish you covered is peak sprint speed, and how to maintain it. It actually takes a few seconds of sprinting for you to reach peak sprint speed, which is why waiting until your sprint meter is as full as possible before sprinting is important. You can also keep your peak sprint speed if you stop moving but continue to hold down shift. You'll slowly regain stamina, and when you start moving again, you'll be going MUCH faster.
ok, thanks for the confirmation that oxygen instantly regenerates cause I've been meaning to check if it does for like at least the past month and just never did lmao
3:41 minor typo, i'm guessing that's supposed to be 0.07
4:19 i'd consider this more like getting adrenaline rather than a "refund"
for the sprint up/down a hill, how did the stamina usage compare? cause I'm not sure I quite buy sprinting up a hill being "more efficient" just because the runs that did so were faster. they could be faster just because you were sprinting longer when going up compared to going down.
The thumbnail is fantastic, love it!
Love these videos, so helpful
Regarding the sprinting uphill vs downhill tests, wouldn't the results be skewed by the fact that you travel longer uphill than downhill? Going uphill is slower, so if you cover the same distance on both slopes, the uphill one will naturally have you sprinting for a larger portion of your total travel time. This could explain why sprinting uphill gave a greater time reduction, as you're literally sprinting more on those tests.
thats the point of the test, right? to prove sprinting up is faster
@@Niffoless No, that would prove sprinting longer is faster
@@Niffoless That was the point of the test. I'm saying it was skewed by the fact that sprinting uphill has you sprinting for more time.
yup, all he's proved is that sprinting for longer is faster, which is obvious... a better test would be to spend a fixed amount of stamina (say, 25% of your stamina bar) and see if it's more effective if you use that amount of stamina on the uphill, flat, or downhill sections.
yeah i guess this is true. would probably be best to get a good comparison of walking vs sprinting speed differences on up/down/flat ground
Babe wake up a new episode of masterclass dropped
awesome vid alter! bro even created a custom moon
i shared all of these lethal company vids with my friends because they really help us and i mean REALLY help us. one time i almost died from an old bird but i remembered the old bird AI vid and i made it out alive w scrap. so ty
that man has TRAINED for that beehive demo.
love your videos, very interesting facts and well produced. im not a speed runner or anything, im just really autistic and have a fixation on lethal company. keep it up
So theres an adrenaline mechanic in lethal. Didn't know that, gotta get back to this game someday.
i love your Masterclass Serises
It’s pretty useful when i play this game even i didn’t speak english well
Quality content, love it.
This truly helps, thanks
Bro what about slime ai😭
4:00 0.11 is less than 0.7. Did you mean to say that standing still regenerates at 0.11 and moving regenerates at 0.07?
Yes, I meant 0.07!
Can you look into the profit quota calculation with the new luck mechanic included?
until he does, i can offer a "brief" explanation
the first quota of the game is always 130
after every quota you complete, the game calculates a value of (1 + [quotas completed]^2 / 16)
it then multiplies that value by a 100 and that's the base quota increase
after that, it generates a random number between 0 and 1 and puts it into a unity animation curve to get a number between 0.5 and 1.5. the result is skewed towards 1 outside of the extremes (80% of the time, the number will be between 0.86 and 1.17). the base quota increase is multiplied by the number it gets from the curve.
your new quota is the result of that added to the quota you just completed.
luck is a value that ranges from -0.012 to 0.1545, although I'll refer to it as a percent (i.e -1.2% to 15.45%). the way it impacts the quota calculation is pretty simple. it takes that random number between 0 and 1 and reduces it by x%, where x is the luck (and yes, negative luck results in an increase). this happens before the number gets fed into the animation curve. because of this, having more than 7.5% luck means the curve will never give a number higher than 1.2, and max luck means it'll never give a number higher than 1.15.
the luck value is calculated when you complete a quota, based on the furniture that you had placed down when you completed the previous quota and _still_ have placed down without having removed it _at any point_ during the quota. (this does mean negative luck from furniture can be ignored just by storing it and immediately placing it back every quota)
if you wanna know what the animation curve used to randomize the quota looks like or what the luck values are for the different furniture, i'd recommend the profit quota page on the fandom wiki. my personal recommendation is to get the disco ball and television if they're available as they give 6% and 2% luck respectively, which is more than half of the max you can get.
0:20 im getting PTSD from the giants 😭
OH SHIT YOUR STILL POSTING FOR THIS GAME??
I didnt even realize this was 1hr ago, i was just clicking through lethal vids that you made about AI😂
alter egirl is a pretty epic youtuber
Love the thumbnail
I’m curious, is sprinting uphill faster because, as you’re moving slower anyways, there’s more time spent sprinting? Would love to know more.
that sprinting uphill part was so useful because I was wondering the same thing, I just didnt know how to test it
every upload i think hes gonna start rapping
W intro
hol up bros still alive
I like how the stamina refund mechanic is coded, good way to convey the effects of Adrenaline that I haven’t seen any other game do right.
This guy has so many guides and informative tips that he's going to make Lethal Company have meta strategies when the ending is released haha
Genuine question, but does weight affect velocity when taking fall damage? Or is it only height?
Weight has no effect on fall damage!
@alteregosocial Oh, Aight! That's good to know at least!
Brooo, that intro though. Almost made me wanna work for the company irl.
I hope lethal company gets more players soon, this game is straigh gas
This game was already at like 200k players and now it’s at 20k active players last time
I checked, which is not dead or dying it’s the natural cycle of games and it’s still a huge amount of players
@@ilikesnow8146 Playerbase also comes back for big updates, that's natural
You missed all the initial hype brother, but it's steady now
*Forgot to add the TZP INHALANT to the tests, Alter.*
tbh who even uses that shit anymore
@@itzwaluigitime8678high quota players
@@itzwaluigitime8678 **cough**
@@Anpawn nah but like that's fair but generally, won't people now stick to Jets and the Cruiser ?
@@itzwaluigitime8678 *underrated strategist Anpawn" present here, sup.*
wake up babe, new alter ego vid just dropped
Wait, if we have oxygen tanks for the moons because of unbreathable air how do we drown underwater?
i like your vids bro
for the slopes, did it take the same amount of stamina when going up/down the hills? like did the downhill take more/less/the same amount of stamina as the uphill did
W vid I learn a lot
Does weight affect the fall damage?
no
How could you not go over the stamina consumption for the uphill/downhill test
Anything different with how inertia is calculated with the cruiser?
what mods are you using to make march fogless and sunny?
Imperium
@@alteregosocial thanks 👍
Just checked the for new videos saw Nothing and then new video five seconds later.
I think it’s just the hydrogere AI vid left… 😢
The ai behind Alter Ego when? 🤖
Every time I see your channel name, I keep thinking of Drake saying "Anita max wynn" 😭
good stuff
these new thumbnails are very good
You have to take into account the extra amount of time you are taking running up the hill. It’s faster but you use more stamina. You should redo the test with a controlled amount of stamina or extend the amount of downhill time
Isnt the difference in sprinting uphill vs downhill casued by moving slower uphill, which means longer time (and more stamina used) spent sprinting?
Alter on his way to cover every mechanic in this game
you sure do know alot about weight dont you
"Since fall damage is calculated by the distance you're falling, it would obviously be consistent whether or not you're moving"
The heinous hypotenuse:
Yay
Maybe if I play dead underwater, the game will let me float like bodies do
3:45, moving stamina regen should be 0.07 per second instead of 0.7, meaning an about 1.5s stamina regen time and even outregenning jumping/sprinting
Babe wake up, new masterclass video dropped
What is this? Spirit of the Ego?
hate when i pick up an item and it’s like 70 pounds😭
i think this video is about health stamina and weight im not sure tho
Peak🗣️
intro went hard
When Slime AI?
LETS GOOOOO🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥵🥵🥵🥶🥶🥶💯💯🗣️🗣️
This is why it took you so long to make this vid, he had to die sevral times.
Doesn't more weight make your stamina regen slower?
W vid