I've watched this vid several times. Its a favorite because of your honesty. No frills. Just a down home DIY VIDEO. I've watched the sequels. Those darn chain tensioner. And chain guards. That gas tank mod is a great idea. One of the best I've seen.
@@Steve_Does_Stuff Your video is very cool . The Nel Lusso is a great choice for the Bike. A youtuber named Motored Life used the Nel Lusso for his build. I think the bike looks sweet for the price at Walmart.
@@Steve_Does_Stuff I have a nel lusso with a 4 stroke. Another motorize biker told me he has seen 50+ rear rack frame breaking. Did you have this problem? How fast can you safely go on this bike? How do you like the bike so far?
Thanks for wasting all my time on putting the sprocket on backwards your a really good youtuber hahaha Jk I hope you learn how to edit out things in the future and hope you haven’t messed up people’s evenings like you have mine.
Originally, I had cut off the rear rack of my Nel Lusso bike to add a friction-drive Lock N' Load unit to the rear. I have since picked up a couple of 80cc 2-stroke engines and am in the process of watching such videos as this one to get some ideas as to how to set it up in the bike. I put caps on each part of the rack to cover the nubs left on the frame. I removed the fenders and am in the process of building the bike in this manner, now. A tip is to use several quick ties around the center to keep an equal distance when putting that hub sprocket into place. It spaces the area out quite evenly and you simply pull the plastic ties out when finished. I did end up putting a better kick stand onto my bike though. It raises the front of the bike up and telescopes, but it is not meant to have someone sit on the bike when it is in use. Only to hold it up well. I had to laugh as I wondered if you were indeed putting the sprocket on backwards. It was hard to see at first when you were filming it. When I got my packages of engines, I thought right away that it may be a mistake problem that is easy to do if you are not careful. :-) I am not fully through in watching your video just yet, as I keep running out to look at my own bike and check things as I do my build. This is my first build although I have ridden motorcycles most of my lifetime (71 years at present). Thanks for posting this video.
New to this having car issues cant afford monthly payments let alone major repairs. Bought same bike and practically identical motor kit I'm in luck! Thank u.🙂
@@Steve_Does_Stuff The furnace was removed from the house next door, and I latched on to the plenum, cut it down, supported the bottom with plywood, made a lid, and added small wheels, axle, and tongue - hey, presto! a trailer that can haul lots of groceries, or a tool box and car parts. I used a car outer tie rod end to connect to the hitch on the bike. Swivels side to side, pivots for up and down hill angles - generally satisfactory - and being a recycled (nudge, wink, get it? re CYCLED?) part, very affordable.
nice work on the Install Steve FYI i read on some Forum that the Importers of some of theose kits were getting harassed by Attorneys because many bikes people were putting them on had the Factory Welds coming apart because they were not designed to handle the stress the engines added to the bike i’ve noticed that now many of the Websites that do sell them have more details outlined on the bike styles they reccomend installing. the kits on like yours most of them do reccomend a Cruiser style Frame that are usually larger Tubings which theoretically would mean more surface Weld area not necessarily a stronger or better Weld but i guess that can change amount the Manufacturers the Forum i read mentioned the head Tube breaking off and when I was a kid in the 1970s riding Wheelies and doing Jumps i broke that Weld on 3 different bikes i will testify it’s a Gnarly one to have give out when you are riding as you lose your front wheel and Handle Bars that send you head first into the Ground and back then we did not wear Helmets on Bikes and Staples for Skulls we’re not invented yet so the Hospital trip was a painful and long one
@@lukasgarage956 wow you have a very good taste in hobbies 🤣 I love rc planes and motorized bikes and motorcycles aswell good luck on the board track racer
I've been putting the same engine on my 20 inch Stingray frame I updated the exhaust, spark, carburetor and air filter and a extra spring tensonor the one that bolts on the engine, its been a pain in the ass to build. I'm almost done and since the frame is smaller I had to do some custom fixes to make it work. I just hope it was all worth it.
3 RULES before installing. #1: disassemble and inspect engine. #2: grinde/sand flashing off ports. #3: reassemble using oil,gresse and LOCK TIGHT on your nuts and bolts 🔩
for greasing, use one with graphite, for oiling external components, Nanolub csx is an excellent substance, lasts long and is perfect for very high stress and friction contacts
@@ELSMITH3378 This is a Motorized Bike you'll never have. The Bike is $129 at Walmart then a Engine from Bike Berry is $149 .. Don't worry Eltorease Smith .. you'll never be able to afford one. or have the intellect to build one. Steve makes and uploads these videos for people who are interested in getting into the Hobby.
THANK YOU!!! This is what im talking about! A detail edsummary of EACH AND EVERY piece, and what they do! Not just someone saying, "Okay imma install in exhaust and i'll see you in a bit!" And completely ignore the process of Assembling the damn exhaust! lmao Like, ppl need to make tutorials as if they are Teaching 10 year olds. Not a seasoned mechanic. I hate it cuz its like, if ur gonna waste ur time doing a tutorial, might as well do it friggin right. So again, i thank you!
Very Nice... So you can use a coaster brake rear wheel and don't need to change it to a freewheel correct. No problems using a coaster brake bicycle with one of these engine kits ?
Future reference with that bike. 27mm straight wall socket with a 3/8" ratchet is perfect to center that annoying sprocket. Just slide the back end over the axle and it should center it 99%
unfortunately gas still costs money, but i do honestly preffer gas, more range easy to refill as opposed to ebike where you get 40km of range and then have to spend and house recharging it XD
Looks a far more pro job that what i did to a Raleigh Grifter in the 80's. 160cc lawnmower 2 stroke rubbing the rear wheel, could clear 70km/h. Petrol tank on the handle bars, lucky i'm still alive i guess!
to keep chain tensioner where it don't twist or anything, drill a hole in the through the tensioner & 1 side of frame with self tapping screw to hold it in place.
Master link needs to be turned around round end into the gear not away from it or ur chain WILL hit and bunch up inside the compartment or snap off easier
This is THE MOST helpful video ive watched yet! Thank you so much. I have been having a lot of troubles with my chain and actually broke it. Turns out i had the sprocket the wrong way.. And i cant seem to get spark from my spark plug. Cant figure that one out. Any idead??
While we're being economical and reusing inner tube rubber, if there happens to be a used radiator hose or heater hose from a car kicking around, they are thicker and provide extra cushioning. I haven't tried the rubber mount cushions made for the job.
it will hold the clutch from engaging in the motor if you have the cable adjusted to the right position where it keeps the lever engaged on the motor if you don't have it adjusted right Michael take off
The foam is a good idea. I wonder if tire tube rubber pads, single, or doubled up or more, would not only keep the scratching down but offer some vibration dampening. Could be substantual, and two birds with one stone.
not worried about burning up the coaster brake? ive melted a few as a kid. then my dad added a grease fitting on hub. that one smoked n then melted. i dont trust em n def woundnt use them with the added speed. after owning scooters n motorcycles i learned the importance of front brakes. i really like the welded in rear rack but i went with a kent bayside 7 speed front n rear brakes n blue tires formy build. im going with a 4 stroke with centrifugal clutch n pull start🍻
This is my 6th year/Summer working on , building, and riding Motorized Bikes. I add a Tuned Pipe, Hi Compression Head, Main Carb Jet is also changed. They come with a #70 jet, I'm running a #67 jet for a bit better Hi End. These small 2 cycle engines, HAVE TO BE WARMED UP !
OK , so im watching several videos. The way the sprocket faces seems to be different for different videos. I have mine on the way you do in the video at 2:35 or so. Was this incorrect or was this when you fixed it? i have the same bike as you so I'm trying to not mess up :) And the correct way is at 3:12? Correct? Thanks!
Thanks, it only makes sense to put it out. I'm not sure why some of the other videos are saying the opposite. I could already see how the chain was extremely close to the spokes too. It could rub against those too. Thanks, I have to disassemble now. :)
Hey again total newbie here I’m just wondering if the standard cruiser cruiser break system is enough or if I should up grade to disc breaks or something
Can anyone tell me how to shut the bike off? I bought an abull 100cc. It runs but it seems the throttle handle is an electric Start when the engine is a clutch start. The problem I'm having is when I stop. And clutch or pull back the handle rhe engine won't shut off. And I have to use the carburetor adjustment screw to choke the engine. Ugh. Any advice is appreciated. Love this video!!!
I have two questions. Why these scrappy gas tanks. Why not a rear tank and rack. And that white wire. Video after video. They don't use them. Does it really effect engine performance. Its only 1.5 bolts. Enough to operate a Headlight.
Did your rear wheel come loose have the same bike and my rear wheel came lose bent a spoke. They put the rear bearing backwards and bearing almost broke threaded the races screw loose
Great video and neat project. I have a question if you get a minute to take a measurement for me. I am wondering what the hight of the motor is. Could you get a measurement from the lower V in the frame to the top of the engine head or spark plug? I am trying to find out if this engine would fit in the space available on my bike. If you get a chance to get that measurement for me I would greatly appreciate it. Again neat project and great video. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Steve. Roughly 3 weeks ago i ordered my 80cc engine kit and as of two days ago I completed my project (also with i that 3 weeks of buy tools extra nuts, etc). Well what I'm having a problem with is pedaling my bike (doesn't matter if I'm engaging the clutch or not). While putting together my bike I watched your videos closely. Yet wondering did i do something to make my bike difficult to pedal at all or is that normal?
Hi Steve. Almost at the 300 mile mark on my bike. Have just today lost the SECOND push button and spring for clutch lever. Dont know how they are popping off? I even added an extra lock washer but it went through that as well. Any suggestions?
Absolute nubee here...just bought my motor..(zeda 66 80cc Firestorm)..I have mechanic skills and I've owned several motorcycles but this is a first for me...in 3 weeks I'll be ready to put it all together.... only problem is my uncle (80 years old and very fragile ego)....he's insisting you can't put a motor of any kind on a bicycle,that I am acting like a "hotshot know it all mechanic" when I explained to him how I'm ditching rear sprocket rag kit for a 3 bolt sprocket adapter,after break in I'm adding a boost bottle,which he said I'm just making up imaginary parts because he has never heard of such a thing....I'm 55 years old...I want to look back on this as a very pleasant experience,whether it takes me two hours or two days.....so....I'm taking everything to a good friends garage where I will get the supportive and happy environment I need and want to do this right....I know I can accomplish this...but not with an egotistical uncle who cannot admit his younger niece ,who is a "woman" (😨) just may know more than he does....thanks for an understandable and clear video 😀This is going to be fun!
Sheri Plott ,,,. If you watch the videos on Zeda engines,,,. The owner of Zeda not other people using Zeda engines,, Tapp on Zita ,,Goes to his web page there's probably 50 Quick videos you need to watch,,. These are also the motors you want to use 66cc is the best all around it has a Zita rod and a static balance to crank,,,. All engine should be torn down disassembled Lube the crank cylinder walls remove the Rings and lap the Rings with WD-40 and 320 grit sandpaper reinstall them,,. You can likely Port all the holes in The Jug,,,. Widen the intake and exhaust ports slightly,,, use better gasket material,,,. Blue Loctite absolutely every nut and bolt everywhere,,,. Mount everything on cut up pieces of rubber inner tube,,. Harley anyone can adjust the carburetors right the cables alright and especially the clutch lever cables properly,, depending on the bike and the alignment expect to be ordering more parts or making your own parts and going back and forth to the hardware several times,,,. You will probably need a plumbing torch to heat the exhaust up and slightly bend it to get it out of the way of the pedals,,,. You'll probably need a good battery type drill and drill bits for drilling and reaming out holes,, if it's a coaster brake remove the brake lever on the rim and there's a black plastic or rubber cap remove it and the sprocket will fit down on it snuggly tight and aligned perfectly,,, Set the rear wheel closer to the front cut the chain down to where you don't need a tensioner as a chain stretches you can move the rim back,, if you use a tensioner after it set perfectly drill a 1/8 inch hole through the tensioner and just one side of the lower tube frame rail and use a ,,, S 12 self-tapping screw in there to hold the tension straight or ill end up ripping your spokes out,,,. Without a garage and a lot of tools,,. And being extremely mechanically inclined,,,. ??? You've got those that can do it with absolutely no problem,,,. And those that spins months asking questions and for help,,,. !!! You can ask me questions anytime,,,,
ok, hey guess what, all you "boost bottle" freaks out there using them on 2 stroke motors, you're dumbasses, that increases the heat and completeness of the fuel burn, but in 2 stroke motors, if the fuel burns too high, so does the oil added to it !!! the pistons can't maintain an optimal amount of residue for lubrication you fools, you have to do far more frequent breakdown maintenance and the piston walls and rings also take greater wear and tear, needing replacement far sooner (like 5x less life), and to be honest, they give bicycle motors a bad name when users claim that the motor was a piece of shit and not worth the money, so people who were interested see these complaints and either change their minds or go for ebike motors, LOSE THE BOTTLES !!!
@@jhewitt8143 I think your point would have been more effectively made without the nastiness of "freaks", "dumbasses", and "you fools". I think the boost bottles look good, but even before your diatribe, I had some doubts about their efficacy.
So i took my chain pulley tensioner apart (i got bike used) to clean it now i made a dumb mistake and i didn't take a pic or look at really before it all came apart. There is the bolt a lock washer and normal washer and a spacer + the bearing inside the wheel i put the bolt into bearing than spacer than washer than used locked washer with nut to hold it on... my chain is making noise now i had to do something wrong and or something needs fixed.. i also know my coaster break is about shot so that might be the noise i hear idk!?? I have some knowledge but not much never worked on theses before have about a 2 years of working on 4 stroke scooters
4 questions... 1: how much is the total weight of the motor, the rider & the bike ??? 2: what is the top speed on smooth, flat road terrain ??? 3: what is the steepest grade the motor can operate ??? (I travel around some steep, paved, residential areas) 4: what is the avg. distance you cover on a single tank ??? sorry to be a pain, I've been looking into getting a supplementing power supply for my bicycle, I had determined that ebikes (kits included) are too costly in the beginning and for battery replacement costs, the distance is limited, ect., ect., so I decided on gas, but need an idea of if the 80cc "Flying Horse", 4 stroke I'm looking at is sufficient for my needs, no dirt riding, but trips of 30+mi 25% of the trips is up about 30 deg roads, I don't want to get the 212cc motor I've seen around if I don't have to, Alabama (police officers) are pretty easy on basic motorized bicycles, but they usually harass those with stuff too big or too loud
thank you very much, this helps big, my father's pretty knowledgeable about motorized bicycles it seems, but could not tell me a single thing about how bi a motor I should get, again, thanx for your time
My bike is a Panama Jack bicycle and a 2-stroke engine and and some engine mods to make my engine the bit faster you're busy was a big help for me I thank you do you have any advice for me to make my bike little bit better I'm trying to figure out how to stall a light system on my bike and I hope you can help me out or anybody thank you again 😇😘💋😊😘💋
Hey Steve I put my motor bike together, I have the very same bike. I was wondering what was the big black nut and bolt for? The nut has threads on thee inside and outside with a big bolt.
Thanks Steve for the info ready to get on the road. One further question how can I bend the exhaust pipe without a blowtorch for heating it up so it won't be in the way of my peddles?
Hey Steve I have put my bike together and tried to start it and my chain keeps popping off, can it be cause of the length of my chain? What can it be my back tire stops moving as well.
Yeah I have taken off 6 links so far so maybe I should take off more? Is there anything else? I have the clutch pulled in all the way and the tire still won't move sometimes but when I peddle the chain looks real loose and not tight.
I suggest people avoid the pre painted engines. They don't do a great job painting them and the don't keep as cool as an unpainted engine. They're great fun so good luck with yours. All the problems I have had with mine have been minor and easily fixed.
me too just built engine but had a few problems while installing, engine was too large and carb didnt fit, had to cut intake manifold but now its not level, have to but offset intake manifold but recently when just starting it for the first time while pedaling the chain tensioner got pulled into the spokes and warped the rear wheel, luckily i have new wheels on the way, i strongly suggest a few things, either replace all bolts at hardware store or use loctite, also replace the chain tensioner with a spring loaded one so it has some give and doesnt just get pulled into spokes, and last piece of advice, get an adapter or wheel with a dedicated hub so that way you dont attach sprocket to spokes and weaken the wheel over time
you put the engine on yet any updates? i have mine built but i dont have brakes yet, been riding around and using the good ol foot brake haha but i have some on the way and the bike will pretty much be done, i think ima replace red tires with black ones to give it an all blacked out look
Chris W. Haven't started yet. Was going to start this week but hurricane Florence has made me put it off until all this is over. I live right where they are predicting landfall.
uh oh, thats not good man, well stay safe and good luck with the build when you start, you can ask me any questions or i suggest going on motorized bike forums for help. best site imo to buy parts is Bikeberry.com they ship very fast and have good quality parts, gasbike.net is good too but they take 1-2 weeks to actually ship things out
I really want to try one of these out as kind of an interesting project. The only thing that worries me is that I live in California and while I know that the DMV is cool with something like this, I've read on a few places that the California Air Resource Board only allows these engines for closed course usage. I really wonder how strictly that is enforced though, I doubt most police officers would be aware of that unless the department has had issues with these kinds of bikes.
I lived in Lompoc, San Diego and Long Beach for years and saw many of these, the police don't seem to have a problem so long as you ride safe, responsibly and your ride is not too loud or to fast, but if you act like a jack-ass on the road or loud or trying to be a show off or going too fast, then they WILL be super pricks
i think its fine if you wear a helmet and ride safely, theres also engines that are certified with epa so they are street safe, try it out, its a really fun project and you learn a lot!
How’s the nel lusso holding together a lot of ppl say the the welds crack so just wondering how’s it holding up? I have one and I’m wondering if I should put a motor on it
best thing to do is get some zip ties put the zip ties in there with the locking part in the little slot there around the hub that way it stays centered about 11 zip ties in there and it'll stay centered tighten them up crossways just like when you torque something down you tighten this up then you tighten the one opposite up then you tighten the window three over and then you take the opposite one up
Great video bro. Have you had any problems with that back sprocket? Do you actually ride this heavily? I want to get one of these kits but all the retro fit back sprocket seem really cheap and crappy.
When mixing oil & gas do like he said - 1st put oil in gas tank but then only add 1/5 th of the gas, put cap on and then mix. then add the rest of the gas and you will have a good mix otherwise you might end up with the oil sitting in the bottom and not mixed.
@@Steve_Does_Stuff darn. I don't have the clutch cable or the springs. I got the engine in a trade. Everything is all hooked up and bolted. But let's say I don't want to pedal the bike. Could I still ride it without the clutch?
For some reason when I insert the spark plug the wheel doesn’t wanna spin and it sort of locks but when I take the spark plug out the wheel moves normally why is that ?
i have a Zeda 80 - 100 cc motor. i installed it and now trying to start it the back wheel drags with the clutch out. its like it has too much back pressure. i am a greenhorn with these motors. any ideas on whats going on?
It seems that you have experience with this type of bike. I need your help. When I stop the bike, I want it to keep running, but that does not happen. As soon as I stop, the engine stops working.
Hi Steve. So i have my engine on order. Should have it next week. I bought my 2 stroke oil. So im already thinking of upgrading the kit sparkplug and fuel line. Is there any other advice that you could give me as far as installation and preparation that would make operation of bike complete? I bought a 26" Ross mountain bike from a thrift store for $20. Im no stranger to bikes. Everything looks good on it. No cracks in welds or anywhere. Will replace tires, tubes, and brake pads of course.
my father's an experienced mechanic and has lots of experience with bicycle motor I found out, here's what he says... because of how 2 stroke engines use the fuel/oil mix to lube, much of it burns off but still leaves some residue, most oil additives are designed for 4 stroke motors, using oil additives in 2 strokes can not only REDUCE the efficiency of the fuel burning off, but the residues themselves actually increase the need for regular maintenance more frequently and CAUSE long term damage and reduction of engine life, and believe it or not, using full or blend synthetic oils in the fuel/oil also REDUCE fuel efficiency because of the higher resistance to high heat and ignition, a strait up proprietary, pure 2-stroke oil and shell premium with nitrogen is best. also, do not use fuel additives that add octane, on small 2 stroke engines they serve no purpose, the compression is not sufficient enough to be of any benefit. DO NOT use fuel additives that have lots of detergents, except when doing breakdown maintenance, the engine relies heavily on the oil residue to lubricate and detergent additives in oils break down that function causing increased wear and tear, increasing the frequency of maintenance and reducing engine life. if you insist on using a supplemented oil (an oil with additives) or oil additives anyway, NEVER, EVER, EVER use ones that have or add metallic and/or flammable substances such as zinc and phosphorus, these are optimized for 4 stroke engines, because 2 stoke engines burn off the oils, the metallic additives create deposits that actually damage the piston walls and rings, further increasing the need for breakdown maintenance and reducing engine life, as for flammable additives such as phosphorus and sulphates, these burning off in the engine create acids and cause severe corrosion in these smaller engines especially. keep your oils and fuels as pure as possible and it will help greatly when you intend on storing your bike for more than 60 days, empty the fuel tank and add a fuel stabilizer but NO oil, when you decide to go and ride again, add the requisite amount of oil, then idle the engine for 10 minutes, shut down for 30-45+ minutes for cool down, then go and have fun try and remember, "2 stroke" & "4 stroke" are NOT numbers, they are completely different types of engines, and need to be treated as such. I do recommend an oil additive called 'nanolub csx', but NOT for mixing in the fuel, it makes an AWSOME lubricant for external moving parts on the engine and bicycle and chain, may your bikes "Live Long & Prosper"
Hi. Great video. Im thinking of ordering the same kit for my bicycle. I have a question, how many times do i have to use oil to gas mixture? Afterwards, can be run on just fuel alone? How many miles daily should be maximum ridden for break-in period? Thank you
Steve ok thanx. Just watched your second bike build video. Had another question. Sorry i couldnt fit it into prior questions. Do you end up losing the front breaks cause of clutch lever? Your vids were perfect. Feel like i could install kit blindfolded now thanx to you
Steve thats a great idea! I just checked on Ebay $12. I will do the same thing. Can never be too safe! I think i am going to buy the 80cc motor kit for $90. Is there a way to tell when i get it that it's really 80cc? I would hate to get duped with a 50cc motor. I appreciate your responses btw Steve. 👍
My issue is my tank when it has fuel in it it will be completely dry with in 2 minutes of letting the bike sit. so i am going to check the fuel shut off but even if that isn't working the carb should be holding all the fuel but it is not? Not sure what to do.
Steve Does Stuff! Yea I have taken the carb apart 4 times and nothing seems wrong. I am a mechanic so I know what to look for if any thing is wrong and nothing was out of the ordinary. I might just buy another carb. Not sure what to shy though I have heard good things about one and bad things about it also. Is there a carb you recommend. My bike is a 80cc
Hey! I have a problem with my bike. I was using the first 3 tanks 16:1, and the engine ran really really good. I had the muffler off. I have finished the break-in period. I am now using 32:1 gas, 95 octane (The other is 100 wich I think is too strong). I have just now started to feel the bike not having power a couple of weeks ago. One morning I started it up, and it wasn't accelerating, it's idling very slow, sometimes even stopping (The idle screw is in so much, that if i twist it 1/4, I can't twist the throttle) the spark plug is light grey, i have fully cleared it with baking soda, and with a pin, put it back, still. I have tried every possible C-Clip position (Stock NT carburetor) If I don't have the throttle at least 1/2 pulled the engine doesn't ignite (From what I can hear) and only goes if I have it pulled fully. I have sealed both sides on the intake manifold with red hi-temp silicone (It doesn't melt untill 340 something celsius, or 644 fahrentheit) and it still does that. Not sure if it's an air leak still. I do have the low idling, wich when I'm not moving and have the clutch pulled, for some reason it fluctuates in RPM's a bit. I also hear a ratling or clanking sound inside the engine. I have looked into it and saw like a white paint like thing on the walls, they looked like they were dripping, but were completely dry. Could it be that my piston rings broke? Or does it not have compression? The head bolts are tight, the manifold has 1 nut that broke but I think that shouldn't be causing it to not work. I'm going to the hardware store tomorrow to buy one to replace it.
Thanks! I will try that. How do I know if it's leaking? Will it lose pressure over time? So let's say the piston is down, I push my thumb into the hole, and roll the bike up. If it loses pressure immediately is that bad? Or can that be just my thumb?
Hey, so I did what you said. I unscrewed the plug, put my finger at the hole, pushed it on the hole hard, disengaged the clutch, and rolled the bike slowly. It felt very weak. Like when you suck on your finger (Sorry I don't have any examples...) and when the piston was comming up it was weak too. It couldn't push the air out. Then I rolled it a bit faster and same.
I've watched this vid several times. Its a favorite because of your honesty. No frills. Just a down home DIY VIDEO. I've watched the sequels. Those darn chain tensioner. And chain guards. That gas tank mod is a great idea. One of the best I've seen.
Alright! A how to video without crappy music! Just lovely!
@@Steve_Does_Stuff Your video is very cool . The Nel Lusso is a great choice for the Bike. A youtuber named Motored Life used the Nel Lusso for his build. I think the bike looks sweet for the price at Walmart.
@@Steve_Does_Stuff I have a nel lusso with a 4 stroke. Another motorize biker told me he has seen 50+ rear rack frame breaking. Did you have this problem? How fast can you safely go on this bike? How do you like the bike so far?
@@spirittoo so a 4 stroke does fit on the nel lusso?
Thanks for wasting all my time on putting the sprocket on backwards your a really good youtuber hahaha Jk I hope you learn how to edit out things in the future and hope you haven’t messed up people’s evenings like you have mine.
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Originally, I had cut off the rear rack of my Nel Lusso bike to add a friction-drive Lock N' Load unit to the rear. I have since picked up a couple of 80cc 2-stroke engines and am in the process of watching such videos as this one to get some ideas as to how to set it up in the bike. I put caps on each part of the rack to cover the nubs left on the frame. I removed the fenders and am in the process of building the bike in this manner, now. A tip is to use several quick ties around the center to keep an equal distance when putting that hub sprocket into place. It spaces the area out quite evenly and you simply pull the plastic ties out when finished. I did end up putting a better kick stand onto my bike though. It raises the front of the bike up and telescopes, but it is not meant to have someone sit on the bike when it is in use. Only to hold it up well. I had to laugh as I wondered if you were indeed putting the sprocket on backwards. It was hard to see at first when you were filming it. When I got my packages of engines, I thought right away that it may be a mistake problem that is easy to do if you are not careful. :-) I am not fully through in watching your video just yet, as I keep running out to look at my own bike and check things as I do my build. This is my first build although I have ridden motorcycles most of my lifetime (71 years at present). Thanks for posting this video.
I enjoyed the video very much Steve. Thank you for producing it and sharing it on You Tube.
Compressed air shot into the end of a hand grip will pop them right off
He, Dennis, great idea! Thanks!
Just built one for my son and it is awsome thankyou for your vidios
I love your channel
5:08: THANK YOU! I've been having this problem for some time now.
New to this having car issues cant afford monthly payments let alone major repairs. Bought same bike and practically identical motor kit I'm in luck! Thank u.🙂
How's it working? Still running?
I love my huffy nelusso! It’s a tank. It rides well and hauls up to 80$ of groceries.
@@Steve_Does_Stuff The furnace was removed from the house next door, and I latched on to the plenum, cut it down, supported the bottom with plywood, made a lid, and added small wheels, axle, and tongue - hey, presto! a trailer that can haul lots of groceries, or a tool box and car parts. I used a car outer tie rod end to connect to the hitch on the bike. Swivels side to side, pivots for up and down hill angles - generally satisfactory - and being a recycled (nudge, wink, get it? re CYCLED?) part, very affordable.
In today's economy that's two cartons of eggs.
Great instruction and proper tone for a tutorial.. please create on how to put batteries and headlight for the motorized bike.
nice work on the Install Steve FYI i read on some Forum that the Importers of some of theose kits were getting harassed by Attorneys because many bikes people were putting them on had the Factory Welds coming apart because they were not designed to handle the stress the engines added to the bike i’ve noticed that now many of the Websites that do sell them have more details outlined on the bike styles they reccomend installing. the kits on like yours most of them do reccomend a Cruiser style Frame that are usually larger Tubings which theoretically would mean more surface Weld area not necessarily a stronger or better Weld but i guess that can change amount the Manufacturers the Forum i read mentioned the head Tube breaking off and when I was a kid in the 1970s riding Wheelies and doing Jumps i broke that Weld on 3 different bikes i will testify it’s a Gnarly one to have give out when you are riding as you lose your front wheel and Handle Bars that send you head first into the Ground and back then we did not wear Helmets on Bikes and Staples for Skulls we’re not invented yet so the Hospital trip was a painful and long one
I’m about to get one of these in the mail. Very helpful
Waiting also.....building a boardtrack racer.....checkout our channel Lukas garage
@@lukasgarage956 wow you have a very good taste in hobbies 🤣 I love rc planes and motorized bikes and motorcycles aswell good luck on the board track racer
I've been putting the same engine on my 20 inch Stingray frame I updated the exhaust, spark, carburetor and air filter and a extra spring tensonor the one that bolts on the engine, its been a pain in the ass to build. I'm almost done and since the frame is smaller I had to do some custom fixes to make it work. I just hope it was all worth it.
3 RULES before installing.
#1: disassemble and inspect engine.
#2: grinde/sand flashing off ports.
#3: reassemble using oil,gresse and LOCK TIGHT on your nuts and bolts 🔩
if you don't follow this RULES....GOOD LUCK 😳👍
for greasing, use one with graphite, for oiling external components, Nanolub csx is an excellent substance, lasts long and is perfect for very high stress and friction contacts
Mr. Motormaster... yes great additional tips. Ty
Who cares these engines are 80 bucks with free shipping
@@ELSMITH3378 This is a Motorized Bike you'll never have. The Bike is $129 at Walmart then a Engine from Bike Berry is $149 .. Don't worry Eltorease Smith .. you'll never be able to afford one. or have the intellect to build one. Steve makes and uploads these videos for people who are interested in getting into the Hobby.
Lol have the same set up an motor never failed me yet God bless
Update?
THANK YOU!!! This is what im talking about! A detail edsummary of EACH AND EVERY piece, and what they do!
Not just someone saying, "Okay imma install in exhaust and i'll see you in a bit!"
And completely ignore the process of Assembling the damn exhaust! lmao
Like, ppl need to make tutorials as if they are Teaching 10 year olds. Not a seasoned mechanic.
I hate it cuz its like, if ur gonna waste ur time doing a tutorial, might as well do it friggin right.
So again, i thank you!
Very Nice... So you can use a coaster brake rear wheel and don't need to change it to a freewheel correct.
No problems using a coaster brake bicycle with one of these engine kits ?
@@Steve_Does_Stuff Good deal, appreciate the info... I'll check-out the video, Be Safe !!!
I bought one. Best video yet..IS A RACING CARBURETOR BETTER.?
Just a heads up those bikes like the nel lusso with the rack welded to them are extremely prone to cracking.. Not a bike you normally want to build..
Future reference with that bike. 27mm straight wall socket with a 3/8" ratchet is perfect to center that annoying sprocket. Just slide the back end over the axle and it should center it 99%
Good gob.Thanks for your films.
Was going to build an electric bike... // Electric = $1330 // Gas = $200 // Fuck the environment
James Williams same haha
unfortunately gas still costs money, but i do honestly preffer gas, more range easy to refill as opposed to ebike where you get 40km of range and then have to spend and house recharging it XD
Get a 4 stroke if you don't want to constantly rebuild this thing.
+runninggames771... true that
Word of advice, buy a good bike that has good bearings because the back wheel bearings get hammered.
Yes they do. I've rode it 3 times and am on my 3rd bearing by the brake arm.
Excellent build
Looks a far more pro job that what i did to a Raleigh Grifter in the 80's. 160cc lawnmower 2 stroke rubbing the rear wheel, could clear 70km/h. Petrol tank on the handle bars, lucky i'm still alive i guess!
Please tell me the size of the chain on the engine side.
415 H
use tool drawer liner instead of the foam, acts as a motor mount for vibrations as well
Great demo thank you, might even consider spot welding that tensioner.
to keep chain tensioner where it don't twist or anything, drill a hole in the through the tensioner & 1 side of frame with self tapping screw to hold it in place.
Master link needs to be turned around round end into the gear not away from it or ur chain WILL hit and bunch up inside the compartment or snap off easier
This is THE MOST helpful video ive watched yet! Thank you so much. I have been having a lot of troubles with my chain and actually broke it. Turns out i had the sprocket the wrong way.. And i cant seem to get spark from my spark plug. Cant figure that one out. Any idead??
Thanks for the help. I probably need to upgrade my spark plug to the american version instead of the off brand craptastic one my kit came with
Strips of old inner tubes work great to restrict vibrations too.
While we're being economical and reusing inner tube rubber, if there happens to be a used radiator hose or heater hose from a car kicking around, they are thicker and provide extra cushioning. I haven't tried the rubber mount cushions made for the job.
Trufuel...premixed.. ethanol free!! $19.99 per gallon!!..good for long term storage!! Most hardware or auto parts store had it...it's worth it!!.
I build these day in day out(Roswell N.M.)...Good build!!Going to build some for sale soon........
it will hold the clutch from engaging in the motor if you have the cable adjusted to the right position where it keeps the lever engaged on the motor if you don't have it adjusted right Michael take off
The foam is a good idea. I wonder if tire tube rubber pads, single, or doubled up or more, would not only keep the scratching down but offer some vibration dampening. Could be substantual, and two birds with one stone.
Tread lock is your friend also need to torque the back gear so it dosent slip
I’m going to buy this kit along with other supplies to build a mini car
@chubzua alright I’m going to need to find a 212cc engine for the price less than 150 quid
not worried about burning up the coaster brake? ive melted a few as a kid. then my dad added a grease fitting on hub. that one smoked n then melted. i dont trust em n def woundnt use them with the added speed. after owning scooters n motorcycles i learned the importance of front brakes. i really like the welded in rear rack but i went with a kent bayside 7 speed front n rear brakes n blue tires formy build. im going with a 4 stroke with centrifugal clutch n pull start🍻
This is my 6th year/Summer working on , building, and riding Motorized Bikes. I add a Tuned Pipe, Hi Compression Head, Main Carb Jet is also changed. They come with a #70 jet, I'm running a #67 jet for a bit better Hi End.
These small 2 cycle engines, HAVE TO BE WARMED UP !
OK , so im watching several videos. The way the sprocket faces seems to be different for different videos. I have mine on the way you do in the video at 2:35 or so. Was this incorrect or was this when you fixed it? i have the same bike as you so I'm trying to not mess up :) And the correct way is at 3:12? Correct?
Thanks!
Thanks, it only makes sense to put it out. I'm not sure why some of the other videos are saying the opposite. I could already see how the chain was extremely close to the spokes too. It could rub against those too. Thanks, I have to disassemble now. :)
I have that same kit and couldn't get the front motor Mount on and now i see how to do it . THANKS😊😊😊👍
Hey again total newbie here I’m just wondering if the standard cruiser cruiser break system is enough or if I should up grade to disc breaks or something
You picked out the very same model bike as I did. You should see some of the long lean large tired bicycles that are being produced today.
Can anyone tell me how to shut the bike off? I bought an abull 100cc. It runs but it seems the throttle handle is an electric Start when the engine is a clutch start. The problem I'm having is when I stop. And clutch or pull back the handle rhe engine won't shut off. And I have to use the carburetor adjustment screw to choke the engine. Ugh. Any advice is appreciated.
Love this video!!!
This is the video that got me hooked! Great job!!
I have two questions. Why these scrappy gas tanks. Why not a rear tank and rack.
And that white wire. Video after video. They don't use them. Does it really effect engine performance. Its only 1.5 bolts. Enough to operate a Headlight.
@@Steve_Does_Stuff Ok. Well the way I understand it it provides one and a half volts so any standard bike light should work. Lol.
The shaft is hydrological pressed into the break lever. So I have too go get a new shaft with all separated pieces.
You should drill and place a set screw on the outside of your chain tensioner to keep it from falling into your spokes.
Hey Steve;
Nice job w/the video, very informative. I plan to build my first one.
Thanks again...😎
Did you build one yet?
Did your rear wheel come loose have the same bike and my rear wheel came lose bent a spoke. They put the rear bearing backwards and bearing almost broke threaded the races screw loose
Great video and neat project. I have a question if you get a minute to take a measurement for me. I am wondering what the hight of the motor is. Could you get a measurement from the lower V in the frame to the top of the engine head or spark plug? I am trying to find out if this engine would fit in the space available on my bike. If you get a chance to get that measurement for me I would greatly appreciate it. Again neat project and great video. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Steve. Roughly 3 weeks ago i ordered my 80cc engine kit and as of two days ago I completed my project (also with i that 3 weeks of buy tools extra nuts, etc). Well what I'm having a problem with is pedaling my bike (doesn't matter if I'm engaging the clutch or not). While putting together my bike I watched your videos closely. Yet wondering did i do something to make my bike difficult to pedal at all or is that normal?
Oh man you had me going there...I saw the mpg and thought it said mph...was like WHAAAT?!!! CLICK
Same😂😂😂😂😂
That was an oof
Lol! It got me too xD
Have you had any problems with the chain rasping against the frame I had that problem with the tire sprocket groove facing out?? Lmk on any info plz
Hi Steve. Almost at the 300 mile mark on my bike. Have just today lost the SECOND push button and spring for clutch lever. Dont know how they are popping off? I even added an extra lock washer but it went through that as well. Any suggestions?
Thank you steve! That was rad
Were did you buy Or kit for your bike I am thinking about getting one ken you tell me we’re got it
Absolute nubee here...just bought my motor..(zeda 66 80cc Firestorm)..I have mechanic skills and I've owned several motorcycles but this is a first for me...in 3 weeks I'll be ready to put it all together.... only problem is my uncle (80 years old and very fragile ego)....he's insisting you can't put a motor of any kind on a bicycle,that I am acting like a "hotshot know it all mechanic" when I explained to him how I'm ditching rear sprocket rag kit for a 3 bolt sprocket adapter,after break in I'm adding a boost bottle,which he said I'm just making up imaginary parts because he has never heard of such a thing....I'm 55 years old...I want to look back on this as a very pleasant experience,whether it takes me two hours or two days.....so....I'm taking everything to a good friends garage where I will get the supportive and happy environment I need and want to do this right....I know I can accomplish this...but not with an egotistical uncle who cannot admit his younger niece ,who is a "woman" (😨) just may know more than he does....thanks for an understandable and clear video 😀This is going to be fun!
You go girl you are absolutely right don’t know about the booster bottle all you can do is just do it.
Good for you! Let it rip Sherri!
Sheri Plott ,,,. If you watch the videos on Zeda engines,,,. The owner of Zeda not other people using Zeda engines,, Tapp on Zita ,,Goes to his web page there's probably 50 Quick videos you need to watch,,. These are also the motors you want to use 66cc is the best all around it has a Zita rod and a static balance to crank,,,. All engine should be torn down disassembled Lube the crank cylinder walls remove the Rings and lap the Rings with WD-40 and 320 grit sandpaper reinstall them,,. You can likely Port all the holes in The Jug,,,. Widen the intake and exhaust ports slightly,,, use better gasket material,,,. Blue Loctite absolutely every nut and bolt everywhere,,,. Mount everything on cut up pieces of rubber inner tube,,. Harley anyone can adjust the carburetors right the cables alright and especially the clutch lever cables properly,, depending on the bike and the alignment expect to be ordering more parts or making your own parts and going back and forth to the hardware several times,,,. You will probably need a plumbing torch to heat the exhaust up and slightly bend it to get it out of the way of the pedals,,,. You'll probably need a good battery type drill and drill bits for drilling and reaming out holes,, if it's a coaster brake remove the brake lever on the rim and there's a black plastic or rubber cap remove it and the sprocket will fit down on it snuggly tight and aligned perfectly,,, Set the rear wheel closer to the front cut the chain down to where you don't need a tensioner as a chain stretches you can move the rim back,, if you use a tensioner after it set perfectly drill a 1/8 inch hole through the tensioner and just one side of the lower tube frame rail and use a ,,, S 12 self-tapping screw in there to hold the tension straight or ill end up ripping your spokes out,,,. Without a garage and a lot of tools,,. And being extremely mechanically inclined,,,. ??? You've got those that can do it with absolutely no problem,,,. And those that spins months asking questions and for help,,,. !!! You can ask me questions anytime,,,,
ok, hey guess what, all you "boost bottle" freaks out there using them on 2 stroke motors, you're dumbasses, that increases the heat and completeness of the fuel burn, but in 2 stroke motors, if the fuel burns too high, so does the oil added to it !!! the pistons can't maintain an optimal amount of residue for lubrication you fools, you have to do far more frequent breakdown maintenance and the piston walls and rings also take greater wear and tear, needing replacement far sooner (like 5x less life), and to be honest, they give bicycle motors a bad name when users claim that the motor was a piece of shit and not worth the money, so people who were interested see these complaints and either change their minds or go for ebike motors, LOSE THE BOTTLES !!!
@@jhewitt8143 I think your point would have been more effectively made without the nastiness of "freaks", "dumbasses", and "you fools". I think the boost bottles look good, but even before your diatribe, I had some doubts about their efficacy.
Hi did the wheel run ok with the dust cap tightened
So i took my chain pulley tensioner apart (i got bike used) to clean it now i made a dumb mistake and i didn't take a pic or look at really before it all came apart. There is the bolt a lock washer and normal washer and a spacer + the bearing inside the wheel i put the bolt into bearing than spacer than washer than used locked washer with nut to hold it on... my chain is making noise now i had to do something wrong and or something needs fixed.. i also know my coaster break is about shot so that might be the noise i hear idk!?? I have some knowledge but not much never worked on theses before have about a 2 years of working on 4 stroke scooters
4 questions...
1: how much is the total weight of the motor, the rider & the bike ???
2: what is the top speed on smooth, flat road terrain ???
3: what is the steepest grade the motor can operate ??? (I travel around some steep, paved, residential areas)
4: what is the avg. distance you cover on a single tank ???
sorry to be a pain, I've been looking into getting a supplementing power supply for my bicycle, I had determined that ebikes (kits included) are too costly in the beginning and for battery replacement costs, the distance is limited, ect., ect., so I decided on gas, but need an idea of if the 80cc "Flying Horse", 4 stroke I'm looking at is sufficient for my needs, no dirt riding, but trips of 30+mi 25% of the trips is up about 30 deg roads, I don't want to get the 212cc motor I've seen around if I don't have to, Alabama (police officers) are pretty easy on basic motorized bicycles, but they usually harass those with stuff too big or too loud
thank you very much, this helps big, my father's pretty knowledgeable about motorized bicycles it seems, but could not tell me a single thing about how bi a motor I should get, again, thanx for your time
hey you put the chain clip on backwards by the way
Yes he did
That the best video ive seen yet on this.. I just bought that same bike, and wondered if anyone added an engine to it! Thanks for making this!
Have a question- my son thinks he needs front disc brakes on a bike for this- is there correct? Hard to find a frame that fits.
My bike is a Panama Jack bicycle and a 2-stroke engine and and some engine mods to make my engine the bit faster you're busy was a big help for me I thank you do you have any advice for me to make my bike little bit better I'm trying to figure out how to stall a light system on my bike and I hope you can help me out or anybody thank you again 😇😘💋😊😘💋
Hey Steve I put my motor bike together, I have the very same bike. I was wondering what was the big black nut and bolt for? The nut has threads on thee inside and outside with a big bolt.
Thanks Steve for the info ready to get on the road. One further question how can I bend the exhaust pipe without a blowtorch for heating it up so it won't be in the way of my peddles?
Thanks if there are any other tips you can give that would be great.
Hey Steve I have put my bike together and tried to start it and my chain keeps popping off, can it be cause of the length of my chain? What can it be my back tire stops moving as well.
I'm trying to do it all myself instead of going to this guy and having it done and spending any more money.
Yeah I have taken off 6 links so far so maybe I should take off more? Is there anything else? I have the clutch pulled in all the way and the tire still won't move sometimes but when I peddle the chain looks real loose and not tight.
I suggest people avoid the pre painted engines. They don't do a great job painting them and the don't keep as cool as an unpainted engine. They're great fun so good luck with yours. All the problems I have had with mine have been minor and easily fixed.
I have the same bike so your vid will be a big help when I install the engine. Thanks
me too just built engine but had a few problems while installing, engine was too large and carb didnt fit, had to cut intake manifold but now its not level, have to but offset intake manifold but recently when just starting it for the first time while pedaling the chain tensioner got pulled into the spokes and warped the rear wheel, luckily i have new wheels on the way, i strongly suggest a few things, either replace all bolts at hardware store or use loctite, also replace the chain tensioner with a spring loaded one so it has some give and doesnt just get pulled into spokes, and last piece of advice, get an adapter or wheel with a dedicated hub so that way you dont attach sprocket to spokes and weaken the wheel over time
OK Chris, I will. Thanks
you put the engine on yet any updates? i have mine built but i dont have brakes yet, been riding around and using the good ol foot brake haha but i have some on the way and the bike will pretty much be done, i think ima replace red tires with black ones to give it an all blacked out look
Chris W. Haven't started yet. Was going to start this week but hurricane Florence has made me put it off until all this is over. I live right where they are predicting landfall.
uh oh, thats not good man, well stay safe and good luck with the build when you start, you can ask me any questions or i suggest going on motorized bike forums for help. best site imo to buy parts is Bikeberry.com they ship very fast and have good quality parts, gasbike.net is good too but they take 1-2 weeks to actually ship things out
another question, are "break in" additives and other type additives worth the money
thanks for the time, if you could help me out with the other questions that'd be a great help sir
Did you add on brakes or did that come with the bike?
a bike with red tires is a good idea, motorists will surely take notice
I really want to try one of these out as kind of an interesting project. The only thing that worries me is that I live in California and while I know that the DMV is cool with something like this, I've read on a few places that the California Air Resource Board only allows these engines for closed course usage. I really wonder how strictly that is enforced though, I doubt most police officers would be aware of that unless the department has had issues with these kinds of bikes.
I lived in Lompoc, San Diego and Long Beach for years and saw many of these, the police don't seem to have a problem so long as you ride safe, responsibly and your ride is not too loud or to fast, but if you act like a jack-ass on the road or loud or trying to be a show off or going too fast, then they WILL be super pricks
i think its fine if you wear a helmet and ride safely, theres also engines that are certified with epa so they are street safe, try it out, its a really fun project and you learn a lot!
Beautiful build !
is this legal? I mean do i need a license?
How did you get the brake arm screws off?
How’s the nel lusso holding together a lot of ppl say the the welds crack so just wondering how’s it holding up? I have one and I’m wondering if I should put a motor on it
Now do u keep adding oil and gas for while until engine is broken in or so?
Okay thanks for the information I'm a new driver just got my motor I'm building it now thanks for all the you tubers out there with video's.
best thing to do is get some zip ties put the zip ties in there with the locking part in the little slot there around the hub that way it stays centered about 11 zip ties in there and it'll stay centered tighten them up crossways just like when you torque something down you tighten this up then you tighten the one opposite up then you tighten the window three over and then you take the opposite one up
Great video bro. Have you had any problems with that back sprocket? Do you actually ride this heavily? I want to get one of these kits but all the retro fit back sprocket seem really cheap and crappy.
When mixing oil & gas do like he said - 1st put oil in gas tank but then only add 1/5 th of the gas, put cap on and then mix. then add the rest of the gas and you will have a good mix otherwise you might end up with the oil sitting in the bottom and not mixed.
I have a 80cc not sure which name brand but my question is what sparkplug would you recommend and what should the gap be?
What hand brake did you add to the rear wheel?
Is the coaster brake reliable at higher speeds?
Hello I was wondering. Do I need the clutch to be able to put it together and ride?
@@Steve_Does_Stuff darn. I don't have the clutch cable or the springs. I got the engine in a trade.
Everything is all hooked up and bolted.
But let's say I don't want to pedal the bike. Could I still ride it without the clutch?
@@Steve_Does_Stuff
Okay I guess I have to buy it lol
a U-bolt from antenna mast hardware could be used too
was the cranbrook discontinued?
I have the same bike, but my engine kit didn't come with the u-bolt substitute, can you tell me what size u-bolt to get
For some reason when I insert the spark plug the wheel doesn’t wanna spin and it sort of locks but when I take the spark plug out the wheel moves normally why is that ?
Be cool if you had some sweet drone footage of you riding to start your video.
I actually have some drone video laying around here of this tool riding his bike. Maybe I'll upload it before he does.
Morbious Stone
And are you an ignoramos or chief advisor to Dopey Trump?
Can you use unleaded gasoline also
Can you recommend a specific kit for this bike
i have a Zeda 80 - 100 cc motor. i installed it and now trying to start it the back wheel drags with the clutch out. its like it has too much back pressure. i am a greenhorn with these motors. any ideas on whats going on?
It seems that you have experience with this
type of bike. I need your help. When I stop
the bike, I want it to keep running, but that
does not happen. As soon as I stop, the
engine stops working.
Will a 4 stroke fit on this bike I have the same bike?
Hi Steve. So i have my engine on order. Should have it next week. I bought my 2 stroke oil. So im already thinking of upgrading the kit sparkplug and fuel line. Is there any other advice that you could give me as far as installation and preparation that would make operation of bike complete? I bought a 26" Ross mountain bike from a thrift store for $20. Im no stranger to bikes. Everything looks good on it. No cracks in welds or anywhere. Will replace tires, tubes, and brake pads of course.
OTEC's olutions yes. Cause the rag joint is a PIA! How much is that adaptor? Thanx
my father's an experienced mechanic and has lots of experience with bicycle motor I found out, here's what he says...
because of how 2 stroke engines use the fuel/oil mix to lube, much of it burns off but still leaves some residue, most oil additives are designed for 4 stroke motors, using oil additives in 2 strokes can not only REDUCE the efficiency of the fuel burning off, but the residues themselves actually increase the need for regular maintenance more frequently and CAUSE long term damage and reduction of engine life, and believe it or not, using full or blend synthetic oils in the fuel/oil also REDUCE fuel efficiency because of the higher resistance to high heat and ignition, a strait up proprietary, pure 2-stroke oil and shell premium with nitrogen is best.
also, do not use fuel additives that add octane, on small 2 stroke engines they serve no purpose, the compression is not sufficient enough to be of any benefit.
DO NOT use fuel additives that have lots of detergents, except when doing breakdown maintenance, the engine relies heavily on the oil residue to lubricate and detergent additives in oils break down that function causing increased wear and tear, increasing the frequency of maintenance and reducing engine life.
if you insist on using a supplemented oil (an oil with additives) or oil additives anyway, NEVER, EVER, EVER use ones that have or add metallic and/or flammable substances such as zinc and phosphorus, these are optimized for 4 stroke engines, because 2 stoke engines burn off the oils, the metallic additives create deposits that actually damage the piston walls and rings, further increasing the need for breakdown maintenance and reducing engine life, as for flammable additives such as phosphorus and sulphates, these burning off in the engine create acids and cause severe corrosion in these smaller engines especially.
keep your oils and fuels as pure as possible and it will help greatly
when you intend on storing your bike for more than 60 days, empty the fuel tank and add a fuel stabilizer but NO oil, when you decide to go and ride again, add the requisite amount of oil, then idle the engine for 10 minutes, shut down for 30-45+ minutes for cool down, then go and have fun
try and remember, "2 stroke" & "4 stroke" are NOT numbers, they are completely different types of engines, and need to be treated as such.
I do recommend an oil additive called 'nanolub csx', but NOT for mixing in the fuel, it makes an AWSOME lubricant for external moving parts on the engine and bicycle and chain, may your bikes "Live Long & Prosper"
Awesome video! To point out, they're bolts, not screws! Lol. Thanks for the video!
Actually, they are called "cap screws"... as opposed to "stove bolts"
Hi. Great video. Im thinking of ordering the same kit for my bicycle. I have a question, how many times do i have to use oil to gas mixture? Afterwards, can be run on just fuel alone? How many miles daily should be maximum ridden for break-in period? Thank you
Steve ok thanx. Just watched your second bike build video. Had another question. Sorry i couldnt fit it into prior questions. Do you end up losing the front breaks cause of clutch lever? Your vids were perfect. Feel like i could install kit blindfolded now thanx to you
Steve thats a great idea! I just checked on Ebay $12. I will do the same thing. Can never be too safe! I think i am going to buy the 80cc motor kit for $90. Is there a way to tell when i get it that it's really 80cc? I would hate to get duped with a 50cc motor. I appreciate your responses btw Steve. 👍
Steve so i was just curious, you need to peddle the bike to start the engine. So how do you ride the bike normal without having the engine start?
Steve thanx Steve. I really appreciate all your responses.
After 500 km
My issue is my tank when it has fuel in it it will be completely dry with in 2 minutes of letting the bike sit. so i am going to check the fuel shut off but even if that isn't working the carb should be holding all the fuel but it is not? Not sure what to do.
Steve Does Stuff! Nope it is all sitting in the motor and in the exhaust pipe.
Steve Does Stuff! Yea I have taken the carb apart 4 times and nothing seems wrong. I am a mechanic so I know what to look for if any thing is wrong and nothing was out of the ordinary. I might just buy another carb. Not sure what to shy though I have heard good things about one and bad things about it also. Is there a carb you recommend. My bike is a 80cc
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your kit comes with bolts so you dont have to stack blots on top of each other. you remove the studs and blot that plate directly to the bike.
Hey! I have a problem with my bike. I was using the first 3 tanks 16:1, and the engine ran really really good. I had the muffler off. I have finished the break-in period. I am now using 32:1 gas, 95 octane (The other is 100 wich I think is too strong).
I have just now started to feel the bike not having power a couple of weeks ago. One morning I started it up, and it wasn't accelerating, it's idling very slow, sometimes even stopping (The idle screw is in so much, that if i twist it 1/4, I can't twist the throttle) the spark plug is light grey, i have fully cleared it with baking soda, and with a pin, put it back, still. I have tried every possible C-Clip position (Stock NT carburetor) If I don't have the throttle at least 1/2 pulled the engine doesn't ignite (From what I can hear) and only goes if I have it pulled fully. I have sealed both sides on the intake manifold with red hi-temp silicone (It doesn't melt untill 340 something celsius, or 644 fahrentheit) and it still does that. Not sure if it's an air leak still. I do have the low idling, wich when I'm not moving and have the clutch pulled, for some reason it fluctuates in RPM's a bit. I also hear a ratling or clanking sound inside the engine. I have looked into it and saw like a white paint like thing on the walls, they looked like they were dripping, but were completely dry.
Could it be that my piston rings broke? Or does it not have compression? The head bolts are tight, the manifold has 1 nut that broke but I think that shouldn't be causing it to not work. I'm going to the hardware store tomorrow to buy one to replace it.
Thanks! I will try that. How do I know if it's leaking? Will it lose pressure over time? So let's say the piston is down, I push my thumb into the hole, and roll the bike up. If it loses pressure immediately is that bad? Or can that be just my thumb?
Hey, so I did what you said. I unscrewed the plug, put my finger at the hole, pushed it on the hole hard, disengaged the clutch, and rolled the bike slowly. It felt very weak. Like when you suck on your finger (Sorry I don't have any examples...) and when the piston was comming up it was weak too. It couldn't push the air out. Then I rolled it a bit faster and same.