Last time i was hassled by cops. I was working. They refused to verify what i was doing and where i worked when i handed her a business card. Detained me unlawfully for over 30 minutes as well as my husband. She wanted id. Had her hand on her gun the whole time. I explained i have never HAD an id. She called a supervisor. They CLEARLY did not believe me. But I didn't talk my ass off. I stayed there. Let them do everything. And eventually they left me alone. I quit my job that day even though I could not afford to. Not worth getting face to face with CRAZY cops who are looking for any reason (and trying to manufacture one) to SHOOT you or CAGE and KIDNAP you
@@frododavis9082 No the election is over. The only thing is that trump won’t be moving out from the White House until January of next year. Hope is coming
@@Безприукрашения You're saying he has bias, when you yourself just proved that you're the one with the bias. What he said was his opinion, and all opinions have bias. I've had a cop pull me over and lie to my face several times. It's almost like they're asking for the public to hate them at this point. I had to get a dashcam when I realized how scummy they are. They're just ego-inflated humans who think they can bully anyone because they were given a badge and a gun, with virtually no requirements that any human can't get. Btw, about that "they already have body cams" - they tap them to distort audio. Had that fucker do it to me before I knew what he was doing. Reason why I found this channel initially. I ventured to understand my rights, maybe more so than the cops that enforce them. They don't care about the law, they only care about their own emotions and egos. I'm disgusted at the state of the modern officer. How is it harrassment? They can turn those body cams off whenever they please. It's ensuring that both parties act professional in all legal manners to be discussed in court. Sometimes you have to grow up, put your ego aside, and think with your head instead of your feelings.
Doubt that's the reason. They seem to have zero problems blatantly lying on their reports for stuff they know have been recorded. It's probably because they know what dirty pigs they are and they most likely gonna do something unethical. For example the police man will beat on his daughter and wife brutally only behind the closed door, in public it will be a gentleman. Similarly it knows it is dirty and does not want to be exposed on camera when inevitably it will act like the pig that it is.
I cannot imagine why the cop would pull out his own phone and capture the evidence of the interaction on it as well if he was actually worried about being recorded.
@@Безприукрашения I guess you haven't spent a lot of time following specific cases if you genuinely think body cams regularly get used AGAINST cops. Body cam footage and audio goes missing ALL the time because of course it does. You can love cops all you want but if one ever is in a bad mood and wants to fuck with you, you won't be able to defend yourself in court bodycam or not.
“ *Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it* .” “... *only those who have the will and the power to shoot down their fellow men, are the real rulers in this, as in all other (so-called) civilized countries; for by no others will civilized men be robbed, or enslaved* .” ― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority *"So these villains, who call themselves governments, well understand that their power rests primarily upon stolen money* . *With money they can hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort money* . *And, when their authority is denied, the first use they always make of money, is to hire soldiers to kill or subdue all who refuse them more money* ." *-The payment of taxes, being compulsory, of course furnishes no evidence that any one voluntarily supports the Constitution* . *It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other; that each man makes a free and purely voluntary contract with all others who are parties to the Constitution, to pay so much money for so much protection, the same as he does with any other insurance company; and that he is just as free not to be protected, and not to pay any tax, as he is to pay a tax, and be protected* . *But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact* . *The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life* . *And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat* ;. *The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets* . *But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful* . *The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act* . *He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit* . *He does not pretend to be anything but a robber* . *He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a “protector,” and that he takes men’s money against their will, merely to enable him to “protect” those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection* . *He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these* . *Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do* . *He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful “sovereign,” on account of the “protection” he affords you* . *He does not keep “protecting” you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands* . *He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villanies as these* . *In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave* . *The proceedings of those robbers and murderers, who call themselves “the government,” are directly the opposite of these of the single highwayman* . *In the first place, they do not, like him, make themselves individually known; or, consequently, take upon themselves personally the responsibility of their acts* . *On the contrary, they secretly (by secret ballot) designate some one of their number to commit the robbery in their behalf, while they keep themselves practically concealed* . *They say to the person thus designated:* *Go to A- B-, and say to him that “the government” has need of money to meet the expenses of protecting him and his property* . *If he presumes to say that he has never contracted with us to protect him, and that he wants none of our protection, say to him that that is our business, and not his; that we choose to protect him, whether he desires us to do so or not; and that we demand pay, too, for protecting him* . *If he dares to inquire who the individuals are, who have thus taken upon themselves the title of “the government,” and who assume to protect him, and demand payment of him, without his having ever made any contract with them, say to him that that, too, is our business, and not his; that we do not choose to make ourselves individually known to him; that we have secretly (by secret ballot) appointed you our agent to give him notice of our demands, and, if he complies with them, to give him, in our name, a receipt that will protect him against any similar demand for the present year* . *If he refuses to comply, seize and sell enough of his property to pay not only our demands, but all your own expenses and trouble beside* . *If he resists the seizure of his property, call upon the bystanders to help you (doubtless some of them will prove to be members of our band)* . *If, in defending his property, he should kill any of our band who are assisting you, capture him at all hazards; charge him (in one of our courts) with murder, convict him, and hang him* . *If he should call upon his neighbors, or any others who, like him, may be disposed to resist our demands, and they should come in large numbers to his assistance, cry out that they are all rebels and traitors; that “our country” is in danger; call upon the commander of our hired murderers; tell him to quell the rebellion and “save the country,” cost what it may* . *Tell him to kill all who resist, though they should be hundreds of thousands; and thus strike terror into all others similarly disposed* . *See that the work of murder is thoroughly done, that we may have no further trouble of this kind hereafter* . *When these traitors shall have thus been taught our strength and our determination, they will be good loyal citizens for many years, and pay their taxes without a why or a wherefore* . *It is under such compulsion as this that taxes, so called, are paid* . *And how much proof the payment of taxes affords, that the people consent to support “the government,” it needs no further argument to show* . *Lysander Spooner (1870)*
I love how innocent until proven guilty has turned into guilty until you can prove to an self-important officer that you’re innocent. 😂 some people man. How do people live life being so confidently wrong!?
Cause the world is full of a--holes. Invariably, just by the laws of probability, many of those a--holes are in law enforcement. Lol... but actually, it's sad because it's a problem that will never be solved as long as police officers are human.
Innocent until proven guilty *in a court of law* -- people forget about that last part. Cops look at all citizens as guilty unless you prove to them you are innocent.
They are just unaware of the laws or they know how to abuse their power and get away with it. I hope other citizens donate to trials so police officers loose money for the departments they work for and learn to be more respectful. It is up to citizens to push for this. All cops forcibly recording everything is a step in the right direction.
"You are being detained under the suspicion of looking young and for failing to provide ID in a state that doesn't require you to provide ID." Brilliant.
if he woulda just told his age instead, there wouldn't have been a problem. conflict avoidance works both ways. just because you're not required to do something by law, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
@@lennartjakob And police don't need to prolong an interaction because they're offended that someone challenges their authority by exercising their rights. Almost all of these videos have cops wasting time simply because they need to be right rather than solving the issue.
I’ve never heard of that as a police procedure. If they find out they are not students at the nearest school, do they keep going to other schools in the area? This cop is a fool.
@@ToomanyFrancis you sure? kid - child; nap - snatch away it literally originated as a term to describe stealing kids as servants for american colonies, didnt it?
Exactly you need to agree to terms and conditions to all devices that u need a advanced law degree to know all rules and its illegal to record things you see on tv like nfl and also saying stuff in public is illegal some times altho we have free speech
Imagine calling in late to wok being like “aye man I’m getting arrested right now I won’t be in for a while” “why did you get arrested?” “Because I look too young”
“Yea hey boss, so remember that day you said customers are gonna think im underage? Well turns out the police thinks so too and im getting arrested for that, gonna be late or might never even show up peace”
@Matt Plays Remasters Glad you got paid, but the idiotic part is it just comes out of taxpayer funds. If officers were on the hook financially for their own idiocy maybe we'd see it stop.
In US children are ARRESTED for ditching the school?? Jesus, why can't they just call their parents like pretty much entire WORLD??? Something is seriously wrong with US...
@Matt Plays Remasters - Ya, I agree. It’s the same thing here in Canada you can’t sue a police officer while he’s on duty even if that same cop was totally 100% wrong.
I'm just laughing at the notion of having to have ID for being in public. Not driving, just being there. I jog without a wallet, just my phone. It now has come to my attention that I could get arrested for fitting the description of a person running away from a crime, because I can't ID myself to the level of their comfort?
@@TheAutumnWind_RN4L I'm Moroccan and we must carry our national ID everytime and absolutely need to ID ourselves whenever an officer asks us to. That's the case in most other countries where I lived (including Spain, Belgium...). I understand this reluctance of Americans towards having the right to not identify since it's within the first amendment rights but I also feel like it avoids all this negative interactions as well.
@whykar4920 it's more of a violation of our 4th Amendment rights.Treading on that one sets a dangerous precedent that places a nation of laws onto the path of tyranny. If we give in to unreasonable searches and seizures, we forfeit our Inalienable rights to liberty; the freedom to exist without unjust harassment. And if the citizen gives carte blanche to agents of the State to enforce laws however they feel like it, how dangerous would it be for the tourist and the immigrant? The men who penned the Constitution, and those who amended it as necessary realized the importance of placing power into the hands of the individual citizen, not just into the hands of the State as a sort of checks and balances against tyrants. The knowledge and application of one's own rights is a necessary part of a free system, because people are just that: people. A badge or a law degree doesn't exempt them from the inherent flaws, prejudices, and misconceptions that exist as a prerequisite to the human condition. So if a badge anoints a man having a bad day to search me because I fit some unambiguous "description" for the sole purpose of provoking a response from me, then it is my duty as a citizen to remind that officer that we live in a nation of laws, and unreasonable search and seizure is one of them, because no individual, law enforcement included, is more valuable or more important than the system of American ideals. Because without the system, exactly what makes us any different from China, Russia, or North Korea? What would be the justification of sending young men and women to war against tyranny if we allow it to exist on our own soil? It's an affront to the whole idea of what it means to be American. I am usually very compliant with law enforcement, but when it is impossible for me to do so, or if their request is unreasonable, it is never a good idea to appease people whose egos are greater than their capacity to understand the laws that they are paid to enforce.
@@SoukRassek.podcastsorry but just because you lived in countries with minimal rights for the citizens doesn’t mean we gotta deal with this bullshit. Also it’s the 4th amendment.
My friend ran a stop sign once and at the traffic stop three other full blown squad cars showed up and 2 cops popped out of all of them. Had 7 cops at a traffic stop for running a stop sign.
Yeah fuck all that. He said he isn't supposed to be in school and that he's 19. I mean really the police should have never even approached them. They weren't doing anything wrong in the first place.
And you're not required to carry ID either, only to identify yourself if asked. Innocent until Proven guilty. the burden of proof is on the officer, not the person. Armed kidnapping and intimidation.
I had this happen to me when I was 18. I had graduated the year before and was riding my bike to work. Cop pulled me over to check if I was supposed to be in school. Of course I made it easy and presented my ID, and let him do his investigation, but he then he started trying to pin a suspicious person who broke into a house earlier that morning. The situation was horrible. I got arrested and taken in for processing. A couple hours later they had me stand in front of one way mirror to have a neighbor of the house who got broken into identify me. Of course I wasn't the guy and I was released. The crap part of it all was I lost my job (no call, no show) and even explaining what happened my job was not understanding. All because I looked like I was supposed to be in school. The only silver lining was a friend hooked me up with a job soon after that ended up being the field of work I still do and enjoy to this day. *Update* This occured back in 2004, not worth pursuing, stop recommending I do something about it. No point in beating a dead horse as they say lol. But let this be a testimonial of an experience that left a bad taste in my mouth pertaining to police for a good while. Know your rights and exercise them accordingly.
Skinnysteve The worst part didn't come from the cops, it came from you losing your job. That could've just as easily happened to Mr. Guervera who was arrested because he refused to show his ID and probably has. I like looking like a teenager. Im 26, but when I shave throughly, I looked like 16 or 17. However, I do know that its not just "a few bad apples" making trouble out there. Not only status offense laws like truancy and curfew violates the minor's rights and trapping law abiding, well behaved teenaged minors, like those coming home from a late date, into the the system that we all hate, through these truancy and curfew laws. But also people, like Guervera and me, who look like teenagers, can also be hassled by police.
I grew up in Long Beach CA and I have a story I could never forget. I walked to my cousins house because we had a soccer game that day. My uncle goes ahead and tells us he would bring the car around so we can head out. As we step out to the sidewalk and close the gate behind us, we thought we saw my uncle to the left and took about 5 steps. We realized he was the opposite way as we heard him pulling up. We do a 180 and start walking to my uncles car. In the next 10 seconds a police car drives onto part of the sidewalk and two "gang unit" police officers grab us and slam us onto their hood of the car. They demanded to know why we were "suspiciously" walking away from their vehicle. Before we can respond they started demanding to know what gangs we were from. That day it was around 80 degrees out and their hood was blazing hot. As they cuffed us, and searched our soccer bags my uncle came up, furiously and told them we were looking for him to head to a soccer game. The cops noticed our soccer gear and threw everything on the floor and told us leave. I remember by hands and chest being so hot we had to pour water on them. Me and my cousin NEVER saw the police unit parked, and we were NOT dressed in gang attire but our soccer uniforms. I lost a lot of respect for police officers that day!
Had a similar situation where I was staring at my phone and walked too far the wrong way, so I turned around and headed down the road toward my house. Few minutes later a guy in a pickup truck pulls up and demands to know why I was messing with his police cruiser. Wouldn't believe that I just walked the wrong way, claimed his wife saw me running away from his car. Glad it didn't get as bad as it got in your situation, but MAN people are so suspicious these days, any innocent mistake can become a problem. Be careful out there people!
I seen a documentary on how some gang members got into police stations in CA. I hear they're more prevalent in LA though, but also in a few local counties
“You have a body camera on?” “No.” “You’re more sketchy now.” Bingo. So very true. Every cop should be wearing body cameras, with stringent penalties for turning them off or disabling them, including thru neglect.
@contact I agree by my thinking America don’t even have any power because this ain’t their land either if we all just came together and revolted technically we’d only be taking back the land they stole in the first place
Its agrivating that they always joke about going to law school, implying that someone shouldn't or can't know the law through other means regardless of the fact that citizens are expected to know the law when charged.
@@xenotundra3346 its an ego thing, they don't have a clue what the laws are, the whole 'law school' obsession is their way at grasping for a reason for them having extra authority, and i believe is a very, very big red flag, and a huge hint to an officers insecurity, they know they don't know how to do their job, and they can't stand the idea of a random citizen being better at it than they are themselves, because they think that threatens them, so they punish and belittle those with that knowledge like a bully who picks on smart kids because they know their IQ barely rivals that of a brick of mud. not all of them are like this obviously, but I'd imagine at least a good half of the officers that make those remarks are.
@@xenotundra3346 as if these cops even have a law degree to hang over the head of these auditors. If they had law degrees, I could understand saying, “Go to law school...” but these cops probably barely have less than a bachelors degree telling people to go to law school lol
@@xenotundra3346 how about the added irony that the police are the ones arrogantly and legally enforcing the law and always making comments about law school, yet they themselves are not required to go to law school to arrest you and ruin your life with those laws.
Even more sad since they don't go to law school. Its apparently impossible for citizens to know the law without going to law school but apparently the cops can enforce the law without ever going to law school...
That's absolutely insane... an adult being dragged off to school because he looked young. That's something you'd expect to happen in a comedy skit, not real-life.
Imagine if your 17 year old kid ditched school and is walking down the street a police officer sees him and ask himself how old he is? Your kid replies he’s old enough and doesn’t need to be In school police officer walks away 20 minutes later you kid gets shot!! Yeah than you will say police aren’t doing their job...
@@joevann7365 i remember when I was 18 I used to go to some bars they never Id me, I ditched school many times I was a bad kid I had a daughter really young now at 24 I have my own business and turned my life the other way around.. if a cop pulls me over for looking Mexican lol .. I don’t give a fuck!! I’ll show him my id and PROVE I got nothing to hide!! They’ll walk away for sure!! But if you got something to hide you’ll be like that kid on recording so stupid!!
When I was 21, I could have passed for a 16 year old. I was hanging out outside a grocery store which I worked at and just finished my night shift and was hanging out. Cop pulls up. And starts making his small talk “How you doin?” ( which is cop translation for what are you doing here) I told him I was just hanging out and he told me I couldn’t hang out side the store, the store manager just called and complained someone was loitering(lie). So I told the cop “ok” and I remained standing there. He then told me I better move along and or my dad was gonna have to pick me up from the police station and that my dad wouldn’t be happy about it. I told him I was 21 and that I worked at the store showed him my store name tag and he gave me an earful that I gave him a hard time and I was a smart a$$ and the whole thing could have been avoided if I told him that originally. Never mind the fact that the whole thing could have been avoided if he didn’t engage with me in the first place
should have called him out for lying to your face as well. the store manager likely would not have called them on an employee, unless your manager was a complete douchebag
@@smilysht238 no one at the store called. It was a shopping center. People walk around all the time at all times of the day. This was 11 years ago, I didn’t even have a smart phone either to record the interaction. Didn’t get a smart phone until 2013
@Angela because it isn't mandatory for cops to know the law, only think they know the law. It has even been upheld in court that as long as they think they are doing the right thing, it's all good.
@@junivanofdragonia wait it’s a misdemeanor to be young in public in California? Then again I really shouldn’t be surprised with what’s been coming out with the priorities of Silicon Valley when it comes to pedos, and a few movie stars being accused of grooming.
Well I'll be... *Officer's address and phone number* Regarding officer Martin Romo... Please be careful with this information, as without knowing the age of the officer in this video, I can not be 100% certain as to the following information Can anyone help me? However, according to my investigation, this is almost certainly him. *Martin Romo* Age: 52 *Current Home Address:* 1715 E Ocean Blvd Long Beach CA 90802 *Phone* (562) 436-0894
"Is that how you want this to go" Yes officer. That is how I want this to go. I want to assert and defend my rights and I want you to violate them anyway, on camera. That is exactly how I want this to go.
Why not just show his ID and prove he's not a kid? That's just being fucking dumb, when you refuse to tell your age and name you're basically making yourself very suspicius. Bc why the fuck would you not tell your age and name if you're right?? Yeah, I know it's his constitutional right to not give the information, but what is it good for? what are you gaining from not giving the information that will set the debate and clarify everything? just bc you can? He done it to himself, the officer just asked a really simple question and he went full: "IT'S MY RIGHT TO MAKE THIS SIMPLE MATTER INTO A VERY EXCRUCIATING AND UNECESSARY SITUATION FOR NO GOOD REASON AT ALL"
That’s the most infuriating shit. “Did you go to law school???” No you don’t need to go to law school to know this shit isn’t right. Not like the police need to know the laws either.
It’s true though they do. Really convinced that anyone that refuses to show ID, is suddenly either breaking the law, has warrens or committed a crime or hiding something. He said he’s 19 though so why the hell is he hanging outside a high school? That lame no offense and he may look like a student and has a backpack and probably could pass for even 16 or 17
Honestly its starting to get to the point where I wish my whole life was recorded, so many incidents can be solved if I just had a recording of everything I've done
I hope harassment is enhanced If harassing people near school just saves one life its worth it. There are dangerous people out there right now, buy the time a gun is pulled its too late
@@timelliott4117 On the surface that "seems" reasonable, but sets a dangerous precedent. Where will the line then be drawn? How much of our rights must we give up? Who determines the amount of force that can be used, while harassing? Once you open up the door to a police state, there's no turning back! Police should of course observe, but our rights shouldn't be infringed upon to do this. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” -Benjamin Franklin
@@brannancloward because there wasn't really any measurable harm 'oh god, someone took me to a school and asked how old I was really politely'. Anyhow, the whole problem is that they thought he was a minor, and he initially refused to clarify his age, so they had reason to believe he was in fact a minor. As a minor, they are allow to take him into custody and transport him without an arrest. Like if they found a baby wandering around in the street, they would not be violating any statutes if they put the baby in their car and took it to the station to figure out who the hell its parents were, even if the baby was crying and saying 'im 40 dude, really!'
@@homelessrobot If an adult who looks really young is such a mind bending concept to these cops, they need to find a career pushing shopping carts around, not enforcing the law
@@nczioox1116 its not a mind bending concept. Its just gives them reasonable suspicion that they are not an adult. Whats mind bending is all of you idiots don't understand that if you look like you are breaking the law, and you refuse to even deny that you are, its reasonable to assume that you are. If you were walking around in a convenience store with a giant jacket full of crinkley plastic, the store attendant asked you if you had any stolen merchandise in your jacket, and you just said 'hey man go away', its reasonable for him to assume that you have a bunch of stolen shit in your jacket and kick your ass.
@@Rub198 ironic (and idiotic) comment, since it has literally nothing to do with the video and is just a judgement of a random stranger on the internet. At least I was participating in a conversation about the content of video.
Yeah, i would have gone along for the ride too.... that would have been the cherry on top. "Are you all done harrassing me now?" Would be my first words after confirming with the school 🤣
School : yes, can I help you? Who is this? Cop: one of your student! School:no he's not! Cop : yes he is! Man : told'ja.. School :no he is not, I never seen this man before! Cop : this is awkward..
I had just walked into a bar after work in downtown LB and ordered a beer when 2 cops walked in and threatened to arrest me for drunk in public. Outstanding police work there!
Unfortunately he left too many gaps to get a meaningful settlement, but if this is common behavior of LB police, suits with a stronger basis will start rolling in.
Police Officer: Hey random stranger. We’re gonna drop you off at the nearest highschool to double check you’re not a student. Highschool Administration: WTF!
I'm 68 so I've had my share of various traffic stops and DUI checks. One thing I'm sure of; cops today are a lot different than they were 40 years ago. Seriously, I am as law-abiding as it gets, but I still get pulled over every other year or so for basically nothing. I cringe when confronted by today's LEOs. They act like you just robbed a bank or shot someone or you're hauling 20 lbs of crack in your trunk. They certainly have an attitude, a power-trip ego that won't quit. You know what I mean?
It’s interesting are cops worse now or better now? Because I can imagine cops were way worse back then, as recording police wasn’t a thing and cops could essentially get away with anything back then
A lot police training nowadays seems to be focused on treating the public as "the enemy". Which ends up with a lot of hostile officers looking for any reason to arrest someone or generally give them a bad day.
I think that's why there's such a divided line in generational opinions - most old hats still think the cops and pay and college costs and everything else are the same and don't realize shit is not the same as when they were young. In the 70s cops would let you go home driving drunk lol. My grandma is in her 80s and she got beat up by the county sheriff and she still posts blue lives matter shit all the time I'm like what the fuck are you talking about HAHAHA
@@xxslayer255xx haha truu. But I can also see that because the weren’t ever held accountable and could get away with anything they probably were way more relaxed and never stressed there for while being more corrupt back then they were probably “nicer” in the way they act. Now days they are constantly being recorded and are starting to be held more accountable and constantly being watch means more stress and worse attitudes…if that makes sense. Just my thoughts.
They just can't stand being filmed. They CAN'T STAND accountability. And every time they do this, they make it worse for themselves. They HAVE to be held to account over this.
Reflects on their intent. They're defensive because they're so use to breaking the law without accountability that as soon as they know there's a camera on them, they start sweating.
Just 2 days ago, a SHERIFF was parked in the middle of the road at a stop sign, at a four-way intersection blocking the neighborhood exit. He was parked for at least 15 minutes trying to catch and extort from people speeding, yet while putting everyone else at risk.
Not quite. You set up laws that deny qualified immunity in such a way that you get your payout from a lawsuit from the city, and the officer is then obligated to pay it back over the rest of his life. The officer can then sue the city back to annul some or all of that debt, and potentially for other damages, if he can PROVE that there were factors (like training, a zero-tolerance policy, or instructions from a superior) that resulted in circumstances where a reasonable person would have seen that as part of their duties. This way, the city cannot shelter the officer, and the city is the defendant with a natural incentive to raise a proper case against the officer if he tries to challenge what he now owes for his crime.
@@conabish Check out my other comment; qualified immunity is a huge problem. Basically, if the officer makes even the ghost of a case that he *believed* he was doing his job and nothing more, the case is no longer against that officer, but against the city.
Freedom in this country is an Illusion. So is the Constitution. The Law doesn't favor us. It favors those who are in power. It's our fault because we had our tails tucked and decided to not do anything to better approach these Injustices and therefore the Cancer inside this Country grew and its infection runs deep. Those in Power only Act when a enormous amount of people complain about the injustices. May God have Mercy on us all.
@@lionbolt2136 Don't give up your guns. If you think they violate your rights, treat you like garbage and don't respect you today, imagine what will happen tomorrow, if you hand them in.
@@chriscool1680 I would never give up my guns(if I had any). I would fight for my Rights. But its better to Fight with those along side you than for you to go lone wolf on Political Tyranny. In Numbers We Scare Them. In numbers can real change Happen.
In US children are ARRESTED for ditching the school?? Jesus, why can't they just call their parents like pretty much entire WORLD??? Something is seriously wrong with US...
Sadly, 'qualified' immunity is a thing and needs to be done TF away with. This type of behavior by LEO is unacceptable and needs to be squashed but as long as we have qualified immunity laws that put the taxpayer on the hook for these shit fucks we won't be able to fix the problems...
@@luisgomez8635 yes, 13. not a typo or anything i was actually 13, but that’s exactly my point, i was super confused when i was stopped. he questioned me as if i was older. i was your run of the mill scrawny “nerdy” kid back then, and i was on my way home from playing basketball with some friends at a park. i was wearing a satchel to hold my phone charger etc and he asked to look inside it. i had nothing to hide so i just showed him. he then asked me where i lived etc and he was so keen on getting a proper answer that that every time i said “around the block” he would reply with a “are you sure? what’s the address” funny enough i did actually live around the block from where he stopped me
INVOLUNTARY TRANSPORT ? OH , YOU MEAN KIDNAPPING . IF HE HASNT BROKEN A LAW, IF YOU TAKE HIM FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITHOUT HIS CONSENT, THAT'S KIDNAPPING .
The first officer only walked over to him because he didn't like being recorded. Then decided to get into a power struggle over absolutely nothing. Though the young man is only 19, his maturity level far outweighs these immature, unprofessional officers.
I disagree - while yes, he had every right to be there and yes, the officers conducted themselves unprofessionally and immature - this whole thing could’ve been as easy as - no sir, Im recording your actions for everybody’s safety. No I do not go to school I’m 19 years old.
@@Systemsturz Yes, you have a point. Both could have handled this much better. I still think the more mature of the two could have taken the higher road. Not all, but most, young people think they know everything. Life will soon teach them - they don't!
@@pattic8473 both are dumb, the cops, commonly cause of why theyre dumb, yk what it is, im talking about the guy, he couldve just give proof of his age, its not that hard, take ur ID out, show it, and done, he wants proof so much? give it, let him embarrass himself, dumb guy
Definitely the Dems. Tired of seeing all those Blue Lives Matter Flags and signs at those Dem rallies. So disturbing how many cops they keep finding that were part of the insurrection at the Capitol to support the Dems.
It should be the school’s and parent’s job to report. Not the cops stopping young looking people. 18ish is a borderline age. I could see a 9 year old walking around being subjected to this.
Cannot arrest him for failure to ID simply cuz you're pissed off he was recording and you can't lie and say it's not about that cuz it's very clear that's what it's about and you can't just say you look young so that means you're supposed to be in school. Don't matter how old he looks or even how old he is. He could be homeschooled. He could have a legitimate day off of school that his parents excused him from. He could have got out early for a doctor's appointment. And please have nothing to do with kids being in school Cops do not handle that They have truancy officers that deal with kids missing school if the absences are frequent or unexcused. Police are never the ones to deal with that.
Hats off to that dude. He was being cool-headed the whole time while defending his rights. He never got worked up, can't say I'd be as cool myself. Good job man.
@@daedalus6433 Because you're wasting your time for nothing when it wasn't a big deal to prove that you're not underaged. You can defend your rights but you gotta also have some common sense.
@@engelsvladimir7727 Common sense is practicing your rights to the fullest, while being respectable. He didn't owe that officer anything. That officer should've taught himself better on the laws he is supposed to uphold.
"You got a body cam? Nah, see, now you more sketchy now" "Sketchy?! YOU'RE recording!" Yeah, he SHOULD BE! ALL police interactions should be recorded! And that applies to the Alphabet Bois
Exactly. I really do wonder how many officers have 'accidentally' forgotten to turn on their recorders or the batteries gave out or what have you - so they can accost and badger people that themselves are not recording what is happening.
If these cops aren't held accountable, then it's evidence that the 1st and 4th amendments are just an illusion and that cops can literally get away with whatever they want to do.
- we dont know who this guy is - we dont know how old he is - we dont know the contents of his bag conclusion: LETS TAKE HIM TO THE NEARBY HIGH SCHOOL 🤣🤣
7:28 "Are you supposed to be in school?" "We're not in school." "I don't know that, so all you have to do is prove that to me then." -- WRONG. The burden of proof is on the officer to demonstrate that the suspect has broken the law. The burden of proof is not on the suspect to demonstrate his innocence.
@@AyoBrian23 They shouldnt need reasonable suspicion, an officer should have the right to demand identification whenever he feels its needed and people shouldn't have the right to refuse
In US children are ARRESTED for ditching the school?? Jesus, why can't they just call their parents like pretty much entire WORLD??? Something is seriously wrong with US...
@@ggoddkkiller1342 School to prison pipeline. You have 3 options. Become a productive member of society, by force, or go to prison where you will be worked due to the exact language used in the 13th amendment, military is the side bar option which also can still lead to prison. Remember the military has extremely strict rules of conduct, while the police can empty a magazine into an unarmed man and get paid vacation for it.
@Xray Paul What about tracking children's absence rate and give warnings and fines to their parents if they get too high like the rest of civilized world, huh?? Instead of chasing teenagers on streets and often doing false arrests??? US is always finding a backward minded way to enforce things...
"Go to Law School, stop watching RUclips" says the officer--That's funny, I've literally witnessed my supervising attorney going through this channel just to write down caselaw notes for his refsheet when in the courtroom. As far as watching RUclips goes for actual law, this channel is equally informative.
Though this channel can't be used as straight legal advice, it's still definitely useful to have someone do the searching for a specific law or case for you.
@LOSER KID He said quote “I’ve literally witnessed my supervising attorney going through this channel just to write down case law notes” I call bullshit, so no; I clearly understood the outlandish statement he made.
@@william9922 he didn’t say this channel was the “Main” or “Sole” source of information. It’s simply a tool or reference point to assist in gathering information. Doesn’t mean it’s actually used or cited in active litigation.
Guy should have shut his mouth once he told the officer he doesn't answer questions. That's a personal pet peeve, assert your right verbally and then don't answer any questions!
You do understand that he is only 19 years old? How would YOU have handled this as a 19 year old with little life experience and hardly any legal knowledge. I’d say he did just fine.
Exactly, you tell them that you are enforcing your fifth amendment right, and any other rights of yours that they violate they can contact your lawyer. And do not stop recording anything and if they try and stop you if you have someone there with you you tell them record.
“Land of the free” doesn’t mean you can go around doing what you want 😂 No this stop wasn’t justified, the officer was irritated about him being recorded (which is fine) I’m just point out that’s not what “land of the free” means at all You have freedom within the law (obviously)
@@PhotonMonkeygames I’m not speaking for this case as I’ve said above it was unjustified, cop had no right to do what he did But It just depends on what your doing/suspected of doing while standing in public, it’s never the fact of just being there Videos rarely ever show the 911 call/all events leading up to the investigation or the emotions of the person, cop and situation (Again not talking about this video, the cop clearly approached out of anger) That’s why it’s important for everyone to understand their laws and what is right/wrong/expected of law enforcement. People shouldn’t exercise their rights just because they can or to make police mad or to make their job hard, they should exercise their rights when needed to protect themselves 👍🏻
@@mp40submachinegun81 outside a business in the middle of the night would be loitering, soliciting some places consider trespassing after dark? Any number if things, he could have gotten this as a robbery police call , maybe the guy bumped into the door and silent alarm went off It’s any good reason to simply ask for ID, what is that gonna harm this guy if he has nothing to hide , cop coulda been gone in minutes
Officer - "Sir, what is the length of your penis?" Innocent Suspect - "Wtf why?" Officer - "So that I do not mistake it for a gun while I search you against your will."
The Mexican mustache thing is actually a cultural pride thing to show their Spaniard heritage. Mexico natives can't grow a mustache like Mexicans with Spaniard blood. My understanding of it anyway. I get curious about weird stuff.
Ain't that some shit: they take our sales taxes and needlessly harrass non-violent offenders (99% of stops) meanwhile unsolved murders stack up and violent offenders walk.
"looking" underage is not a reasonable justification in my view, because it puts young-looking adults in a position in which the must at any time prove they are adults simply for being in public during school hours
“You look young, you should be in school.” “Well you look old, so you should be in a care home.” Man should’ve pulled an uno reverse card on them and see how they like it.
I’m not familiar with the laws in any part of America but at least in Australia that would be exactly what would happen. I don’t mean picking out someone who looks young and detaining them. For one thing, students here almost universally wear uniforms which, although it would be easy enough to change, makes it highly unlikely anyone not in a uniform would be questioned about being a school student, unless they were obviously very young. But police routinely transport minors against their will and without a legal guardian. I mean, what do police in America wait for a child’s parents to arrive before arresting them? If a minor is missing as soon as they were found police would take to the station or to home whether they liked it or not. Children can’t just be let go because they don’t want to be taken away by police. Not to mention situations where the legal guardians are either also detained or not present when they should be. Children alone in public or left in a home unable to care for themselves etc.
@@emilchandran543 Its one thing to transport minors for their safety as you mentioned. Its another thing to detain minor which is what the OP referred to. Both are not same.
DUDE! You're actually fucking on to something. If they think you're a minor, LEAN INTO IT! Tell them to get your guardian on the phone. Tell them if they believe you're a minor, then they know they need to get a parent involved, and that's gonna be fucking hilarious.
Moe like Cops: "You look like a minor, refuse to give any ID, refuse to state your age, you are near a public school, with a school looking backpack, and no statement of parental location. So we're going to transport you against your will without the presence of a legal guardian until we can confirm you are not ditching school or attempting to run away. " fixed it for you.
@@emilchandran543 Well, at what point are you kidnapping someone and/or falsely imprisoning them? We can see that the cops are in the wrong so since there's no legal basis for their actions that means they're just illegally taking someone and holding them against their will. If a minor is happy to consent to being taken somewhere by the police or another person because they're helping the person that's one thing but how do you justify taking a kid and not notifying a guardian? A kid doesn't have full legal authority for a lot of things and we recognize that they may not be as mentally capable as an adult because they're still developing hence why you would notify a guardian of the actions so they can ensure the safety of the kid. I'd be pretty pissed if a cop took away my kid and refused to notify me. It would be one thing for them taking away an adult and not notifying me, at least I know the adult is capable of taking care of themselves. A 6 year old is NOT capable of taking care of themselves.
Ikr. What is with the creepy phrasing! So glad i am not a parent because i would tell my kid to never go anywhere with a stranger that is an adult alone and that includes cops!
I graduated at 17. I wonder if this guy would have detained me and taken me to the school and they'd be, "Why the heck are you here?" I say this as if the cop wasn't mostly worried about harassing them because it hurt his ego to feel monitored by young people.
Same I just turned 17 and a couple months when I graduated but I think I would have just when with him to the school for the satisfaction of seeing him look real stupid
I got in my first Uni when I was 16. I would've been mighty embarrassing to be kidnapped by an overreaching asshole with a badge and a power trip to be delivered to a random school for identification...
In the UK and Ireland we do not need to carry any form of identification in public. If you are driving, you're supposed to carry your driving license with you, but if you don't have it on you when stopped, you can be asked to present it to your nearest police station within something like a week to 10 days.
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With Biden soon to be in office, the officers will be changed
Last time i was hassled by cops. I was working. They refused to verify what i was doing and where i worked when i handed her a business card. Detained me unlawfully for over 30 minutes as well as my husband. She wanted id. Had her hand on her gun the whole time. I explained i have never HAD an id. She called a supervisor. They CLEARLY did not believe me. But I didn't talk my ass off. I stayed there. Let them do everything. And eventually they left me alone. I quit my job that day even though I could not afford to. Not worth getting face to face with CRAZY cops who are looking for any reason (and trying to manufacture one) to SHOOT you or CAGE and KIDNAP you
@@romanbellic2178 Election is not over yet, Trump will stay in office as the president
And these bad cops will get weeded out
@@frododavis9082 No the election is over. The only thing is that trump won’t be moving out from the White House until January of next year. Hope is coming
There’s a reason cops hate to be recorded. It makes it too hard to lie in court and railroad innocent people.
@@Безприукрашения You're saying he has bias, when you yourself just proved that you're the one with the bias. What he said was his opinion, and all opinions have bias. I've had a cop pull me over and lie to my face several times. It's almost like they're asking for the public to hate them at this point. I had to get a dashcam when I realized how scummy they are. They're just ego-inflated humans who think they can bully anyone because they were given a badge and a gun, with virtually no requirements that any human can't get. Btw, about that "they already have body cams" - they tap them to distort audio. Had that fucker do it to me before I knew what he was doing. Reason why I found this channel initially. I ventured to understand my rights, maybe more so than the cops that enforce them. They don't care about the law, they only care about their own emotions and egos. I'm disgusted at the state of the modern officer. How is it harrassment? They can turn those body cams off whenever they please. It's ensuring that both parties act professional in all legal manners to be discussed in court. Sometimes you have to grow up, put your ego aside, and think with your head instead of your feelings.
@@Безприукрашения its not harassment. And these cops literally said they don’t have body cams.
Doubt that's the reason. They seem to have zero problems blatantly lying on their reports for stuff they know have been recorded. It's probably because they know what dirty pigs they are and they most likely gonna do something unethical. For example the police man will beat on his daughter and wife brutally only behind the closed door, in public it will be a gentleman. Similarly it knows it is dirty and does not want to be exposed on camera when inevitably it will act like the pig that it is.
I cannot imagine why the cop would pull out his own phone and capture the evidence of the interaction on it as well if he was actually worried about being recorded.
@@Безприукрашения I guess you haven't spent a lot of time following specific cases if you genuinely think body cams regularly get used AGAINST cops. Body cam footage and audio goes missing ALL the time because of course it does. You can love cops all you want but if one ever is in a bad mood and wants to fuck with you, you won't be able to defend yourself in court bodycam or not.
The irony of the cops telling him he needs to go to law school when they themselves do not know the law is amazing to me hahaha
the way he said it too...bitch thought he was so smart
I was thinking the same.
Nasty dirty little cops! They did find out who needed law school! It is a camera! Shut up, do your job. Ignore it! Or be a dirty little cop!
“ *Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it* .”
“... *only those who have the will and the power to shoot down their fellow men, are the real rulers in this, as in all other (so-called) civilized countries; for by no others will civilized men be robbed, or enslaved* .”
― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority
*"So these villains, who call themselves governments, well understand that their power rests primarily upon stolen money* . *With money they can hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort money* . *And, when their authority is denied, the first use they always make of money, is to hire soldiers to kill or subdue all who refuse them more money* ."
*-The payment of taxes, being compulsory, of course furnishes no evidence that any one voluntarily supports the Constitution* .
*It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other; that each man makes a free and purely voluntary contract with all others who are parties to the Constitution, to pay so much money for so much protection, the same as he does with any other insurance company; and that he is just as free not to be protected, and not to pay any tax, as he is to pay a tax, and be protected* .
*But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact* . *The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life* . *And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat* ;.
*The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets* . *But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful* .
*The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act* . *He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit* . *He does not pretend to be anything but a robber* . *He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a “protector,” and that he takes men’s money against their will, merely to enable him to “protect” those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection* . *He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these* . *Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do* . *He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful “sovereign,” on account of the “protection” he affords you* . *He does not keep “protecting” you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands* . *He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villanies as these* . *In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave* .
*The proceedings of those robbers and murderers, who call themselves “the government,” are directly the opposite of these of the single highwayman* .
*In the first place, they do not, like him, make themselves individually known; or, consequently, take upon themselves personally the responsibility of their acts* . *On the contrary, they secretly (by secret ballot) designate some one of their number to commit the robbery in their behalf, while they keep themselves practically concealed* . *They say to the person thus designated:*
*Go to A- B-, and say to him that “the government” has need of money to meet the expenses of protecting him and his property* . *If he presumes to say that he has never contracted with us to protect him, and that he wants none of our protection, say to him that that is our business, and not his; that we choose to protect him, whether he desires us to do so or not; and that we demand pay, too, for protecting him* . *If he dares to inquire who the individuals are, who have thus taken upon themselves the title of “the government,” and who assume to protect him, and demand payment of him, without his having ever made any contract with them, say to him that that, too, is our business, and not his; that we do not choose to make ourselves individually known to him; that we have secretly (by secret ballot) appointed you our agent to give him notice of our demands, and, if he complies with them, to give him, in our name, a receipt that will protect him against any similar demand for the present year* . *If he refuses to comply, seize and sell enough of his property to pay not only our demands, but all your own expenses and trouble beside* .
*If he resists the seizure of his property, call upon the bystanders to help you (doubtless some of them will prove to be members of our band)* . *If, in defending his property, he should kill any of our band who are assisting you, capture him at all hazards; charge him (in one of our courts) with murder, convict him, and hang him* . *If he should call upon his neighbors, or any others who, like him, may be disposed to resist our demands, and they should come in large numbers to his assistance, cry out that they are all rebels and traitors; that “our country” is in danger; call upon the commander of our hired murderers; tell him to quell the rebellion and “save the country,” cost what it may* . *Tell him to kill all who resist, though they should be hundreds of thousands; and thus strike terror into all others similarly disposed* . *See that the work of murder is thoroughly done, that we may have no further trouble of this kind hereafter* . *When these traitors shall have thus been taught our strength and our determination, they will be good loyal citizens for many years, and pay their taxes without a why or a wherefore* .
*It is under such compulsion as this that taxes, so called, are paid* . *And how much proof the payment of taxes affords, that the people consent to support “the government,” it needs no further argument to show* .
*Lysander Spooner (1870)*
Cops normally don't know the law and make ones up.
a cop telling him to go to law school is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life.
Yeah, says the cop that's never been to law school
Bruuuuuuuuh
Cops act like they know all laws with their 6 weeks of training
If thats the most ignorant thing you've ever heard then you really need to watch a few more videos from this channel. I'm guessing you're new here.
Don't you know they are ALL ignorant?
I love how innocent until proven guilty has turned into guilty until you can prove to an self-important officer that you’re innocent. 😂 some people man. How do people live life being so confidently wrong!?
Cause the world is full of a--holes. Invariably, just by the laws of probability, many of those a--holes are in law enforcement. Lol... but actually, it's sad because it's a problem that will never be solved as long as police officers are human.
Nobody ever beats the shit out of them. THats how
Innocent until proven guilty *in a court of law* -- people forget about that last part. Cops look at all citizens as guilty unless you prove to them you are innocent.
They are just unaware of the laws or they know how to abuse their power and get away with it. I hope other citizens donate to trials so police officers loose money for the departments they work for and learn to be more respectful. It is up to citizens to push for this.
All cops forcibly recording everything is a step in the right direction.
DUMMY COPS
"You are being detained under the suspicion of looking young and for failing to provide ID in a state that doesn't require you to provide ID." Brilliant.
if he woulda just told his age instead, there wouldn't have been a problem. conflict avoidance works both ways. just because you're not required to do something by law, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
@@lennartjakob shut up
@@lennartjakob And police don't need to prolong an interaction because they're offended that someone challenges their authority by exercising their rights. Almost all of these videos have cops wasting time simply because they need to be right rather than solving the issue.
I've seen citizens ask law enforcement for their badge number and name many flat out refuse to identify themselves.
@@lennartjakob your kinda right.
Gotta love cops who think the smart thing to do with a suspicious person of unknown age is to take them to a nearby school 🤦♂️
It’s suspicious to sit outside with a backpack? 🤡
No shit , I was thinking that same fucking thing lol....
I’ve never heard of that as a police procedure. If they find out they are not students at the nearest school, do they keep going to other schools in the area? This cop is a fool.
Yes yes, we ALL will feel safer tonight.
That honestly scares me.
“Involuntarily transported” bruh, that’s called kidnapping.
not a kid tho, he was 19 :D
@@theredestbull I hope I'm not getting wooshed here, but that's not what kidnapping means...
@@ToomanyFrancis you sure? kid - child; nap - snatch away
it literally originated as a term to describe stealing kids as servants for american colonies, didnt it?
@@theredestbull lol you're either the biggest idiot in this comment section or i couldn't notice the sarcasm
That was straight out kidnapping.
_"He's only 12"_
'Are you sure?'
_"Absolutely. I checked his driver's license"_
"His W-2s clearly indicate he's 6"
Thank you, You made me smile 😂
There are way too many laws in this country.
Exactly you need to agree to terms and conditions to all devices that u need a advanced law degree to know all rules and its illegal to record things you see on tv like nfl and also saying stuff in public is illegal some times altho we have free speech
Way too many laws, and Cops make up laws to suit their needs.
And WAY too many cops.
Your country is by definition a police state, police there has to much power.
@@ToneyCrimson The area I live in the Police have nothing much to do. Idle minds are the Devil’s workshop, they say.
Imagine calling in late to wok being like “aye man I’m getting arrested right now I won’t be in for a while” “why did you get arrested?” “Because I look too young”
"Cops made me go to High School and Home Ec was making cookies!"
“Yea hey boss, so remember that day you said customers are gonna think im underage? Well turns out the police thinks so too and im getting arrested for that, gonna be late or might never even show up peace”
“Understandable have a nice day”
Are you from Scotland
@@AliValentine143 I nearly spat milk on my keyboard reading that hahaha.
I would shut up and let them truck me to different high schools. Then collect a nice $75,000 payday in two months.
that's exactly what I was thinking, taking him to every school as he refuses to give his name... WTF were they thinking??
Dumb ass cops im glad these are being posted
@Matt Plays Remasters Glad you got paid, but the idiotic part is it just comes out of taxpayer funds. If officers were on the hook financially for their own idiocy maybe we'd see it stop.
In US children are ARRESTED for ditching the school?? Jesus, why can't they just call their parents like pretty much entire WORLD??? Something is seriously wrong with US...
@Matt Plays Remasters - Ya, I agree. It’s the same thing here in Canada you can’t sue a police officer while he’s on duty even if that same cop was totally 100% wrong.
Asserting your rights is “being sketchy”
For cops a citizen exercising their rights equates to being “difficult” “sketchy” or “obstructing”
"I'm about to go to work."
"Can you prove it?"
"Yes, by going to work."
@@isaacwillson8617 Please tell me this is satire. You didn't actually just post your address on a youtube comment section, right?
@@hollow8964 aren't po boxes different from addresses tho?
Post Office Box, yes.
@@qttOW He still gave a pretty good general estimate on where he could possibly live, which you shouldn't be doing on the internet
Nope, it’s a fake
"You look kinda young.... I'm trying to get you into my car."
Pretty sure I was told something about that when I was younger...
same, but i was the guy asking
My brother told me never to go into a strangers car unless they have the good candies, like Jolly ranchers.
I gave the 70th like.
@@samuelsoliday4381 i removed my like so its back at 69
@@rrrrre2905 Nope, still 70
The biggest joke in all this is demanding ID in a state that doesn't require you to ID yourself at ALL unless you're being arrested.
I'm just laughing at the notion of having to have ID for being in public. Not driving, just being there. I jog without a wallet, just my phone. It now has come to my attention that I could get arrested for fitting the description of a person running away from a crime, because I can't ID myself to the level of their comfort?
Not even when you’re arrested. Just when you’re driving. We have the same iD law in Mass.
@@TheAutumnWind_RN4L I'm Moroccan and we must carry our national ID everytime and absolutely need to ID ourselves whenever an officer asks us to. That's the case in most other countries where I lived (including Spain, Belgium...). I understand this reluctance of Americans towards having the right to not identify since it's within the first amendment rights but I also feel like it avoids all this negative interactions as well.
@whykar4920 it's more of a violation of our 4th Amendment rights.Treading on that one sets a dangerous precedent that places a nation of laws onto the path of tyranny. If we give in to unreasonable searches and seizures, we forfeit our Inalienable rights to liberty; the freedom to exist without unjust harassment. And if the citizen gives carte blanche to agents of the State to enforce laws however they feel like it, how dangerous would it be for the tourist and the immigrant? The men who penned the Constitution, and those who amended it as necessary realized the importance of placing power into the hands of the individual citizen, not just into the hands of the State as a sort of checks and balances against tyrants. The knowledge and application of one's own rights is a necessary part of a free system, because people are just that: people. A badge or a law degree doesn't exempt them from the inherent flaws, prejudices, and misconceptions that exist as a prerequisite to the human condition. So if a badge anoints a man having a bad day to search me because I fit some unambiguous "description" for the sole purpose of provoking a response from me, then it is my duty as a citizen to remind that officer that we live in a nation of laws, and unreasonable search and seizure is one of them, because no individual, law enforcement included, is more valuable or more important than the system of American ideals. Because without the system, exactly what makes us any different from China, Russia, or North Korea? What would be the justification of sending young men and women to war against tyranny if we allow it to exist on our own soil? It's an affront to the whole idea of what it means to be American. I am usually very compliant with law enforcement, but when it is impossible for me to do so, or if their request is unreasonable, it is never a good idea to appease people whose egos are greater than their capacity to understand the laws that they are paid to enforce.
@@SoukRassek.podcastsorry but just because you lived in countries with minimal rights for the citizens doesn’t mean we gotta deal with this bullshit. Also it’s the 4th amendment.
I simply cannot get over how many police officers it takes to confront a single 19-yr old man.
Actually, they think he's 17 or younger, so maybe they did need all those people!!!
Well they need 3 cops to arrest 1 granny who were trying to trap cats to take them to be sterilized and released. 😅
@@JamesBarrett-y1znice bro, badass
My friend ran a stop sign once and at the traffic stop three other full blown squad cars showed up and 2 cops popped out of all of them. Had 7 cops at a traffic stop for running a stop sign.
"There's a school over there, and you look like you should be there"
"There's a dunkin donuts around the corner, you look like you should be there"
Comment of the year goes to this one right here.
Oof
Lmfao
There’s a graveyard over there & you look like you would fit right in.
Easy there
"until I find out you're not supposed to be in school"
So... Guilty until proven innocent apparently
Yeah fuck all that. He said he isn't supposed to be in school and that he's 19. I mean really the police should have never even approached them. They weren't doing anything wrong in the first place.
despite what they say, that's just a fact
to cops, everyone is a criminal until proven otherwise
You're always guilty of something, until you definitely prove yourself innocent, or they fabricate something.
the amount of high schoolers who play hooky is shocking.
@Dr. M. H. its mandatory regardless.
"unless you show me ID I'm going to kidnap you and take you to the nearest school"
Baffling behaviour.
These gang members w badge in blue need to be stopped
They took him to the sketchy kiddie school
That’s called incriminating by intimidation.
And you're not required to carry ID either, only to identify yourself if asked.
Innocent until Proven guilty. the burden of proof is on the officer, not the person.
Armed kidnapping and intimidation.
Loitering has got to be the dumbest thing to be a crime.
I had this happen to me when I was 18. I had graduated the year before and was riding my bike to work. Cop pulled me over to check if I was supposed to be in school. Of course I made it easy and presented my ID, and let him do his investigation, but he then he started trying to pin a suspicious person who broke into a house earlier that morning. The situation was horrible. I got arrested and taken in for processing. A couple hours later they had me stand in front of one way mirror to have a neighbor of the house who got broken into identify me. Of course I wasn't the guy and I was released. The crap part of it all was I lost my job (no call, no show) and even explaining what happened my job was not understanding. All because I looked like I was supposed to be in school. The only silver lining was a friend hooked me up with a job soon after that ended up being the field of work I still do and enjoy to this day.
*Update* This occured back in 2004, not worth pursuing, stop recommending I do something about it. No point in beating a dead horse as they say lol. But let this be a testimonial of an experience that left a bad taste in my mouth pertaining to police for a good while. Know your rights and exercise them accordingly.
This is why we sue the cops and why we don't give out info. NOt our job to do their job.
I'm sorry you had to go through all that but that is a pretty good silver lining. Hope everything else is still well with you.
Cops: So really, you should be thanking us...
THAT is why this gentleman refused to provide ID
Skinnysteve The worst part didn't come from the cops, it came from you losing your job. That could've just as easily happened to Mr. Guervera who was arrested because he refused to show his ID and probably has. I like looking like a teenager. Im 26, but when I shave throughly, I looked like 16 or 17. However, I do know that its not just "a few bad apples" making trouble out there. Not only status offense laws like truancy and curfew violates the minor's rights and trapping law abiding, well behaved teenaged minors, like those coming home from a late date, into the the system that we all hate, through these truancy and curfew laws. But also people, like Guervera and me, who look like teenagers, can also be hassled by police.
I grew up in Long Beach CA and I have a story I could never forget. I walked to my cousins house because we had a soccer game that day. My uncle goes ahead and tells us he would bring the car around so we can head out. As we step out to the sidewalk and close the gate behind us, we thought we saw my uncle to the left and took about 5 steps. We realized he was the opposite way as we heard him pulling up. We do a 180 and start walking to my uncles car. In the next 10 seconds a police car drives onto part of the sidewalk and two "gang unit" police officers grab us and slam us onto their hood of the car. They demanded to know why we were "suspiciously" walking away from their vehicle. Before we can respond they started demanding to know what gangs we were from. That day it was around 80 degrees out and their hood was blazing hot. As they cuffed us, and searched our soccer bags my uncle came up, furiously and told them we were looking for him to head to a soccer game. The cops noticed our soccer gear and threw everything on the floor and told us leave. I remember by hands and chest being so hot we had to pour water on them. Me and my cousin NEVER saw the police unit parked, and we were NOT dressed in gang attire but our soccer uniforms. I lost a lot of respect for police officers that day!
Had a similar situation where I was staring at my phone and walked too far the wrong way, so I turned around and headed down the road toward my house. Few minutes later a guy in a pickup truck pulls up and demands to know why I was messing with his police cruiser. Wouldn't believe that I just walked the wrong way, claimed his wife saw me running away from his car. Glad it didn't get as bad as it got in your situation, but MAN people are so suspicious these days, any innocent mistake can become a problem. Be careful out there people!
Why would you have had any respect for them BEFORE that?
I would’ve too.
That’s what ( Earning the hate ) everyday is all about
I seen a documentary on how some gang members got into police stations in CA. I hear they're more prevalent in LA though, but also in a few local counties
“You have a body camera on?”
“No.”
“You’re more sketchy now.”
Bingo. So very true. Every cop should be wearing body cameras, with stringent penalties for turning them off or disabling them, including thru neglect.
All states don’t have body cameras
@@Tondaluv816 that should be changed
@@Tondaluv816 They should.
@contact I agree by my thinking America don’t even have any power because this ain’t their land either if we all just came together and revolted technically we’d only be taking back the land they stole in the first place
Define sketchy occifers I’m not sure the definition they are using but wow
Involuntary transportation…otherwise known as kidnapping😂😂😂
Do the cops think that once you cross the graduation stage, your appearance ages 10 years. Guess what, 18, 19, and 20 year olds are gonna look young.
@@mikemcgown6362 It's in no way a curse. Mildly inconvenient. Good on you though. Stay healthy.
@@mikemcgown6362 You're not 54 and look like you're in your early 20s, stop the bullshit 🤣
Especially as a smoker..
@@mikemcgown6362 you're lying. What you're claiming is physically not possible. They ID you because its their job or they want to make you feel good.
@@mikemcgown6362 the word is Lying* and yes you are. You also deleted the comments so that more people dont call you out.
But that's exactly why he asked for his ID and age to verify.
Cop: _"Why don't you go to law school and stop watching so much RUclips"_
Also Cop: *End up looking incompetent on RUclips*
Its agrivating that they always joke about going to law school, implying that someone shouldn't or can't know the law through other means regardless of the fact that citizens are expected to know the law when charged.
@@xenotundra3346 its an ego thing, they don't have a clue what the laws are, the whole 'law school' obsession is their way at grasping for a reason for them having extra authority, and i believe is a very, very big red flag, and a huge hint to an officers insecurity, they know they don't know how to do their job, and they can't stand the idea of a random citizen being better at it than they are themselves, because they think that threatens them, so they punish and belittle those with that knowledge like a bully who picks on smart kids because they know their IQ barely rivals that of a brick of mud. not all of them are like this obviously, but I'd imagine at least a good half of the officers that make those remarks are.
@@xenotundra3346 as if these cops even have a law degree to hang over the head of these auditors. If they had law degrees, I could understand saying, “Go to law school...” but these cops probably barely have less than a bachelors degree telling people to go to law school lol
@@xenotundra3346 how about the added irony that the police are the ones arrogantly and legally enforcing the law and always making comments about law school, yet they themselves are not required to go to law school to arrest you and ruin your life with those laws.
Even more sad since they don't go to law school. Its apparently impossible for citizens to know the law without going to law school but apparently the cops can enforce the law without ever going to law school...
That's absolutely insane... an adult being dragged off to school because he looked young. That's something you'd expect to happen in a comedy skit, not real-life.
Imagine if they weren’t cops!!! This would just be kidnapping
@@lemming9693 well, he said he is an adult, so he answered his question about his age.
@@minaolenella869 ye anyone could say they are 19 but he could be younger
@@luk3_86 yeah, but he answered the police question. Police has no right to ask for further ID
we are increasingly becoming a police state 😔😔😔
Future employer: Have you ever been arrested?
Me: Yes.
Future employer: For what?
Me: Looking too young.
Future employer: 🤦♂️
They only started questioning him because he recorded vertically...
Suspicious activity right there.
Lol
Which is illegal in 32 states, including California.
Isn’t that also a crime against humanity?
It's called portrait 🤣
"Are you supposed to be in school right now?" "No sir."
At that point, the encounter should have ended.
Imagine if your 17 year old kid ditched school and is walking down the street a police officer sees him and ask himself how old he is? Your kid replies he’s old enough and doesn’t need to be In school police officer walks away 20 minutes later you kid gets shot!! Yeah than you will say police aren’t doing their job...
guy look like 26 - 28 y.o. It's strange somebody thought his is 18 or younger...
@@mcdlol6 Watch your own kid.
@@joevann7365 i remember when I was 18 I used to go to some bars they never Id me, I ditched school many times I was a bad kid I had a daughter really young now at 24 I have my own business and turned my life the other way around.. if a cop pulls me over for looking Mexican lol .. I don’t give a fuck!! I’ll show him my id and PROVE I got nothing to hide!! They’ll walk away for sure!! But if you got something to hide you’ll be like that kid on recording so stupid!!
@@Billy420-69 you are learning about LAWS on RUclips? 😂😂
When I was 21, I could have passed for a 16 year old. I was hanging out outside a grocery store which I worked at and just finished my night shift and was hanging out. Cop pulls up. And starts making his small talk “How you doin?” ( which is cop translation for what are you doing here) I told him I was just hanging out and he told me I couldn’t hang out side the store, the store manager just called and complained someone was loitering(lie). So I told the cop “ok” and I remained standing there. He then told me I better move along and or my dad was gonna have to pick me up from the police station and that my dad wouldn’t be happy about it. I told him I was 21 and that I worked at the store showed him my store name tag and he gave me an earful that I gave him a hard time and I was a smart a$$ and the whole thing could have been avoided if I told him that originally. Never mind the fact that the whole thing could have been avoided if he didn’t engage with me in the first place
There's a funny video kind of similar to what you went through but in a different way. Its called " cop mistakes backfire for ak47" lol
Or if he hadn’t bald-faced lied to you.
I used to get mistaken for a teenager all the way into my 20s but it usually only resulted in inadvertent compliments, not legal entanglements
should have called him out for lying to your face as well. the store manager likely would not have called them on an employee, unless your manager was a complete douchebag
@@smilysht238 no one at the store called. It was a shopping center. People walk around all the time at all times of the day. This was 11 years ago, I didn’t even have a smart phone either to record the interaction. Didn’t get a smart phone until 2013
Props to the videographer. Don’t ever roll over and let these clowns trample your rights.
Yeah only thing he did wrong was have the camera rotated 90 degrees
It’s not just kidnapping and assault or battery. He is a cop. He has a gun. Armed kidnapping sounds better.
@Drizzle Raindry stop makint police sond bad
@@thecluckerbrosbros5819 yes ma’am, even though they don’t need my help🥳
@@thecluckerbrosbros5819 He's just stating what they did.
@@buckfutter99 lol true
@@stanlee3980 I meant the maker of this comment is explaining what the officers did.
"Involuntarily transporting citizens against their will without probable cause or arrest" in other words kidnapping
Exactly!
But of course they can't call it that, it's the cops after all, and the boys in blue can never be criminals
Facts it's kidnapping false arrest violation of his civil rights ect lawsuit time
let's say "abduction" because if Guevara says KIDnapping that constitutes probable cause for being juvenile :)
@Angela because it isn't mandatory for cops to know the law, only think they know the law. It has even been upheld in court that as long as they think they are doing the right thing, it's all good.
Cop: "You look too young !"
Kid: "Is that a felony or a misdemeanor ?"
Young one ; or are you just jealous
"haha! You're resisting arrest now?"
Misdemeanor in California. But since the cops couldn’t prove or have PC to prove he is a minor. It is actually none.
@@junivanofdragonia wait it’s a misdemeanor to be young in public in California?
Then again I really shouldn’t be surprised with what’s been coming out with the priorities of Silicon Valley when it comes to pedos, and a few movie stars being accused of grooming.
The lack of social and problem solving skills these officers have is mind blowing to me
"I'm trying to get you over to my car".
This cop should be on a certain "List".
He could barely restrain himself from putting his hands all over that child.
He should have told the kid....'hey I'm Tony Romo's disgustingly fat cousin....you want me to get his autograph.....
Well I'll be... *Officer's address and phone number*
Regarding officer Martin Romo... Please be careful with this information, as without knowing the age of the officer in this video, I can not be 100% certain as to the following information Can anyone help me?
However, according to my investigation, this is almost certainly him.
*Martin Romo* Age: 52
*Current Home Address:* 1715 E Ocean Blvd Long Beach CA 90802
*Phone* (562) 436-0894
@@smallblockchevy1022 Hahahaha
Wonder if a few people might call him and ask if he is still seeking school children on the street.
Chris Hanson would probably make him have a seat and tall to him about his behaviour....
"Is that how you want this to go"
Yes officer. That is how I want this to go. I want to assert and defend my rights and I want you to violate them anyway, on camera. That is exactly how I want this to go.
Why not just show his ID and prove he's not a kid? That's just being fucking dumb, when you refuse to tell your age and name you're basically making yourself very suspicius. Bc why the fuck would you not tell your age and name if you're right?? Yeah, I know it's his constitutional right to not give the information, but what is it good for? what are you gaining from not giving the information that will set the debate and clarify everything? just bc you can? He done it to himself, the officer just asked a really simple question and he went full: "IT'S MY RIGHT TO MAKE THIS SIMPLE MATTER INTO A VERY EXCRUCIATING AND UNECESSARY SITUATION FOR NO GOOD REASON AT ALL"
dude is talking to himself
👏👏👏
🤣🤣🤣
@@digaum1657 ok so basically lets have rights but not exercise them then got it .
We always have to be lawyers to know that we can’t be abused. It’s amazing.
If you show them you do know something about the law they mock you for it, as though ignorance is better somehow.
@@wizardsuth Because they feel shame that a random citizen knows their job better than they do.
@@ianbattles7290 More likely because they've lost a way to get the upper hand, by trying to use a false premise, to arrest you.
That’s the most infuriating shit. “Did you go to law school???” No you don’t need to go to law school to know this shit isn’t right. Not like the police need to know the laws either.
@@wizardsuth 🤣👍💩for Brains
When the officer has a bodycam but records with his phone instead, you know he's up to something shady.
Cops automatically think that anyone exercising their rights is also automatically breaking the law. Scary state of affairs.
20th booooooster!
very true.. probably the most pertinent observation Ive seen for any of these vids/channels.
It’s true though they do. Really convinced that anyone that refuses to show ID, is suddenly either breaking the law, has warrens or committed a crime or hiding something. He said he’s 19 though so why the hell is he hanging outside a high school? That lame no offense and he may look like a student and has a backpack and probably could pass for even 16 or 17
@@jilla-dr9hu he’s doing a first amendment audit.
It's set up this way. There is only one real way to oppose a violent force, and it isn't with words and lawsuits.
I once argued with a cop about student rights when I was 18 and he claimed that students, even if they are 18 years of age, don't have rights.
I would have said I call bullshit on you sir
They aren't humans or citizens until they graduate 😆
Technically he’s some what right, students regardless of age do have less rights while in school but it doesn’t mean they don’t have any at all.
@@KitsuneGod28 That's exactly what I did.
@@bryantunknown4233 explain
Imagine being 19 and graduated and a cop forces you to go to a high school😂
Im at the awkward age right now where people still think I’m in high school. 😂
@@marky8013 omg same. I’m a sophomore in college but still look like a 10th grader
This sounds like the start to a will Ferrell movie
Rather go to jail
That cop needs to be drug tested
“Involuntarily transported”….. so he was basically abducted😂😂
I would NEVER look young in public. These guys are nuts.
Lol 😂
Bruh, this comment is gold
It’s illegally to look young
🤣
Same. I’m 38 and still get carded. Can’t go there!
That he was recording is what saved his ass. They'd have found some reason, any reason to arrest him if he hadn't used that phone as a shield.
Honestly its starting to get to the point where I wish my whole life was recorded, so many incidents can be solved if I just had a recording of everything I've done
@@dinoblacklane1640 Google, Facebook, Instagram, etc... *"Allow us to introduce ourselves."*
They shouldn't be allowed to make any arrest without a body camera.
Especially after grabing his arm..
He should sue. When cities get tired of paying for officers overstepping their authority, maybe police harassment will lessen!
I hope harassment is enhanced If harassing people near school just saves one life its worth it. There are dangerous people out there right now, buy the time a gun is pulled its too late
@@timelliott4117 On the surface that "seems" reasonable, but sets a dangerous precedent. Where will the line then be drawn? How much of our rights must we give up? Who determines the amount of force that can be used, while harassing? Once you open up the door to a police state, there's no turning back! Police should of course observe, but our rights shouldn't be infringed upon to do this. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” -Benjamin Franklin
@@timelliott4117 oh my fuck, could you be MOAR melodramatic?
@@timelliott4117 no, the drama comes from the cops trying to over reach.
@@timelliott4117 so, was law enforcement doing his job during the Filando Castille shooting?
UPDATE: They took him to the high school, then trespassed him for "adult loitering at a high school."
"you need to go to law school"
You need a salad and a gym membership officer
Yup.
Clearly a salad dodger.
And dodges some other basic things like civility too.
You can bring a horse to water but you cannot make him drink it
Same applys here
@@kevinmontoya7318 , i know, but you can drown the bastard.
@@MooKau_ 🤣🤣
@@MooKau_ and the law.
"you need to go to law school" says the person whos job requires only a high school diploma
If that! Most of these idiots have an IQ of 50 and under.
It takes longer to become a cosmetologist and cut hair than it does to become a police officer and get a gun in USA
*GED
@johan alejandro Cazador de piñas diabolicas correct. I'll edit that in
@@bump112 oof
They aren’t scared of complaints because they never have repurcussions, they do whatever they want. Including kidnapping in this case
And the same resulted from this::: no action
@@brannancloward because there wasn't really any measurable harm 'oh god, someone took me to a school and asked how old I was really politely'. Anyhow, the whole problem is that they thought he was a minor, and he initially refused to clarify his age, so they had reason to believe he was in fact a minor. As a minor, they are allow to take him into custody and transport him without an arrest. Like if they found a baby wandering around in the street, they would not be violating any statutes if they put the baby in their car and took it to the station to figure out who the hell its parents were, even if the baby was crying and saying 'im 40 dude, really!'
@@homelessrobot If an adult who looks really young is such a mind bending concept to these cops, they need to find a career pushing shopping carts around, not enforcing the law
@@nczioox1116 its not a mind bending concept. Its just gives them reasonable suspicion that they are not an adult. Whats mind bending is all of you idiots don't understand that if you look like you are breaking the law, and you refuse to even deny that you are, its reasonable to assume that you are.
If you were walking around in a convenience store with a giant jacket full of crinkley plastic, the store attendant asked you if you had any stolen merchandise in your jacket, and you just said 'hey man go away', its reasonable for him to assume that you have a bunch of stolen shit in your jacket and kick your ass.
@@Rub198 ironic (and idiotic) comment, since it has literally nothing to do with the video and is just a judgement of a random stranger on the internet. At least I was participating in a conversation about the content of video.
Imagine being late for work because a cop kidnapped you and made you go to a high school
I've got backup coming, and they're gonna take you over to the high school.
I literally shrieked laughing so hard.
“Ya we found one of your students skipping class”
“I don’t know who that is he isn’t a student”🙃
I'd be laughing hard and say "let's go!" Be even funnier if it was your alma mater and they're like "ya he graduated 2 years ago!" 🤣
Imagine taking an adult to a school and asking the school if this adult goes there.
Lol
Yeah, i would have gone along for the ride too.... that would have been the cherry on top. "Are you all done harrassing me now?" Would be my first words after confirming with the school 🤣
Imagine what would happen to someone who did it to a plainclothes cop!
Lol
School : yes, can I help you? Who is this?
Cop: one of your student!
School:no he's not!
Cop : yes he is!
Man : told'ja..
School :no he is not, I never seen this man before!
Cop : this is awkward..
Long Beach PD has a long history of abusive behavior and a terrible reputation. I hope this young man sues these tyrants.
Yep.... im 37... my first encounter with them was age 13. I was simply walking down the street and one nearly ran me over to cut me off to frisk me.
I had just walked into a bar after work in downtown LB and ordered a beer when 2 cops walked in and threatened to arrest me for drunk in public. Outstanding police work there!
Unfortunately he left too many gaps to get a meaningful settlement, but if this is common behavior of LB police, suits with a stronger basis will start rolling in.
@@tommullaney8714 yikes 😮
Police Officer:
Hey random stranger. We’re gonna drop you off at the nearest highschool to double check you’re not a student.
Highschool Administration:
WTF!
I'm 68 so I've had my share of various traffic stops and DUI checks. One thing I'm sure of; cops today are a lot different than they were 40 years ago. Seriously, I am as law-abiding as it gets, but I still get pulled over every other year or so for basically nothing. I cringe when confronted by today's LEOs. They act like you just robbed a bank or shot someone or you're hauling 20 lbs of crack in your trunk. They certainly have an attitude, a power-trip ego that won't quit. You know what I mean?
It’s interesting are cops worse now or better now? Because I can imagine cops were way worse back then, as recording police wasn’t a thing and cops could essentially get away with anything back then
@@yourwifewasinmedms5137 the answer to that question likely depends on the person you ask and the pigment of their skin
A lot police training nowadays seems to be focused on treating the public as "the enemy". Which ends up with a lot of hostile officers looking for any reason to arrest someone or generally give them a bad day.
I think that's why there's such a divided line in generational opinions - most old hats still think the cops and pay and college costs and everything else are the same and don't realize shit is not the same as when they were young. In the 70s cops would let you go home driving drunk lol. My grandma is in her 80s and she got beat up by the county sheriff and she still posts blue lives matter shit all the time I'm like what the fuck are you talking about HAHAHA
@@xxslayer255xx haha truu. But I can also see that because the weren’t ever held accountable and could get away with anything they probably were way more relaxed and never stressed there for while being more corrupt back then they were probably “nicer” in the way they act. Now days they are constantly being recorded and are starting to be held more accountable and constantly being watch means more stress and worse attitudes…if that makes sense. Just my thoughts.
So the deputy is trying to lure someone he believes to be a juvenile to his car?
Yes.
💀💀💀💀👌
Yup
And laid hands on him
He has candy and a puppy in his car lmao
They just can't stand being filmed. They CAN'T STAND accountability. And every time they do this, they make it worse for themselves. They HAVE to be held to account over this.
Reflects on their intent. They're defensive because they're so use to breaking the law without accountability that as soon as they know there's a camera on them, they start sweating.
Just 2 days ago, a SHERIFF was parked in the middle of the road at a stop sign, at a four-way intersection blocking the neighborhood exit. He was parked for at least 15 minutes trying to catch and extort from people speeding, yet while putting everyone else at risk.
They they they
"Go to law school."
"You've been watching too much RUclips."
“I did nothing wrong”
“In your opinion you didn’t, in our opinion you did”
That's where I'd say "your OPINION isn't probable cause"
danni pops It is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. The law is the law is the law!!
I love you people who are slaves to the law.. Sheep
“You’re doing something wrong you’re tooo young”
@@Eriknorth87 stop resisting!
When you sue the police it needs to come out of their pensions that way they take the law seriously. Police the Police 🐖
You'd sue the officer that you had problems with not the "police" as the police can mean the whole department.
Not quite. You set up laws that deny qualified immunity in such a way that you get your payout from a lawsuit from the city, and the officer is then obligated to pay it back over the rest of his life. The officer can then sue the city back to annul some or all of that debt, and potentially for other damages, if he can PROVE that there were factors (like training, a zero-tolerance policy, or instructions from a superior) that resulted in circumstances where a reasonable person would have seen that as part of their duties. This way, the city cannot shelter the officer, and the city is the defendant with a natural incentive to raise a proper case against the officer if he tries to challenge what he now owes for his crime.
@@conabish Check out my other comment; qualified immunity is a huge problem. Basically, if the officer makes even the ghost of a case that he *believed* he was doing his job and nothing more, the case is no longer against that officer, but against the city.
if ur constitutional rights were violated (i believe they were here) the police lose their qualified immunity.
he probably can sue these individuals.
Amen
"The land of the free"
Not allowed to walk in public during daytime.
Freedom in this country is an Illusion. So is the Constitution.
The Law doesn't favor us. It favors those who are in power.
It's our fault because we had our tails tucked and decided to not do anything to better approach these Injustices and therefore the Cancer inside this Country grew and its infection runs deep. Those in Power only Act when a enormous amount of people complain about the injustices.
May God have Mercy on us all.
@@lionbolt2136 Don't give up your guns. If you think they violate your rights, treat you like garbage and don't respect you today, imagine what will happen tomorrow, if you hand them in.
America hasn't been those good things people say about it for a long time now.....
@@chriscool1680 I would never give up my guns(if I had any). I would fight for my Rights. But its better to Fight with those along side you than for you to go lone wolf on Political Tyranny. In Numbers We Scare Them. In numbers can real change Happen.
In US children are ARRESTED for ditching the school?? Jesus, why can't they just call their parents like pretty much entire WORLD??? Something is seriously wrong with US...
i'm fully convinced that officer pulled out his phone to research what he could detain him for 💀
The cops were worried about RUclips and ended up on it anyway.
Yep and viewed from Australia....
@@redeyeyowie6668 and Germany.
And England
And New Zealand. Confirming our low opinion of policing in the USA.
@@RealityDysfunction a revolution is coming.
That dude should sue the shit out of the officers individually then after winning going after the department for not training thier officers correctly
don't sue for too much, there has to be money left for further training :P
Agreed
He's going to do jack shit!
on bro 😭
Sadly, 'qualified' immunity is a thing and needs to be done TF away with. This type of behavior by LEO is unacceptable and needs to be squashed but as long as we have qualified immunity laws that put the taxpayer on the hook for these shit fucks we won't be able to fix the problems...
"You look too young to be in public"
Me as an Asian: *sweating furiously*
Oh, man, this is the best RUclips comment I've read in a while. LOLZ
bruh i’m asian too and was stopped by a cop when i was walking home from basketball at the park, i was 13 at the time, 13!! lmao
@@sunnysaenngarm5375 you not realize this, but 13? Is pretty damn young, considered underage even.
@@luisgomez8635 yes, 13. not a typo or anything i was actually 13, but that’s exactly my point, i was super confused when i was stopped. he questioned me as if i was older. i was your run of the mill scrawny “nerdy” kid back then, and i was on my way home from playing basketball with some friends at a park. i was wearing a satchel to hold my phone charger etc and he asked to look inside it. i had nothing to hide so i just showed him. he then asked me where i lived etc and he was so keen on getting a proper answer that that every time i said “around the block” he would reply with a “are you sure? what’s the address” funny enough i did actually live around the block from where he stopped me
I dont know why, but this comment really caught me XD
INVOLUNTARY TRANSPORT ? OH , YOU MEAN KIDNAPPING . IF HE HASNT BROKEN A LAW, IF YOU TAKE HIM FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITHOUT HIS CONSENT, THAT'S KIDNAPPING .
The first officer only walked over to him because he didn't like being recorded. Then decided to get into a power struggle over absolutely nothing. Though the young man is only 19, his maturity level far outweighs these immature, unprofessional officers.
@@charlesbeaty8090 Did you even watch the part of the video that explained the exception for truancy laws when exercising first amendment rights?
I disagree - while yes, he had every right to be there and yes, the officers conducted themselves unprofessionally and immature - this whole thing could’ve been as easy as - no sir, Im recording your actions for everybody’s safety. No I do not go to school I’m 19 years old.
@@Systemsturz Yes, you have a point. Both could have handled this much better. I still think the more mature of the two could have taken the higher road. Not all, but most, young people think they know everything. Life will soon teach them - they don't!
@pattic8473 cool story bro
@@pattic8473 both are dumb, the cops, commonly cause of why theyre dumb, yk what it is, im talking about the guy, he couldve just give proof of his age, its not that hard, take ur ID out, show it, and done, he wants proof so much? give it, let him embarrass himself, dumb guy
The arrests are just getting more and more ridiculous each year
That’s Democrats for you
Definitely the Dems. Tired of seeing all those Blue Lives Matter Flags and signs at those Dem rallies.
So disturbing how many cops they keep finding that were part of the insurrection at the Capitol to support the Dems.
@@rrdt I think you're getting republicans and democrats mixed up lol.
@@Asia-oq4ez crazy, huh? It's almost like I was being totally facetious or sarcastic or something.
@XXX Wrong and biased.
He does look young, but this was entirely ego fueled. Some cops can't ignore something out of/beyond their control.
Yes! All about control.
I like to tell segregationists that they have a sexual pathology, trying to govern their neighbors' sex lives :) 😃
Yes that.
Transporting him without a charge could be considered kidnapping but I'm not a lawyer. If it was me, I'd be looking for a lawyer.
It should be the school’s and parent’s job to report. Not the cops stopping young looking people. 18ish is a borderline age. I could see a 9 year old walking around being subjected to this.
they dug themselves into a hole and were too proud to just say 'alright, this really isn't worth all our time, have a good day'.
Cannot arrest him for failure to ID simply cuz you're pissed off he was recording and you can't lie and say it's not about that cuz it's very clear that's what it's about and you can't just say you look young so that means you're supposed to be in school. Don't matter how old he looks or even how old he is. He could be homeschooled. He could have a legitimate day off of school that his parents excused him from. He could have got out early for a doctor's appointment. And please have nothing to do with kids being in school Cops do not handle that They have truancy officers that deal with kids missing school if the absences are frequent or unexcused. Police are never the ones to deal with that.
Hats off to that dude. He was being cool-headed the whole time while defending his rights. He never got worked up, can't say I'd be as cool myself. Good job man.
Never got worked up? Hahahah wtf are you smoking?
Wouldn’t it have been easier to just prove you aren’t too young instead of EGOing and causing a scene?
@@IncyzionEdits Why should you surrender your rights to a power-grabbing police officer trying to violate constitutional rights?
@@daedalus6433 Because you're wasting your time for nothing when it wasn't a big deal to prove that you're not underaged. You can defend your rights but you gotta also have some common sense.
@@engelsvladimir7727 Common sense is practicing your rights to the fullest, while being respectable. He didn't owe that officer anything. That officer should've taught himself better on the laws he is supposed to uphold.
"You got a body cam? Nah, see, now you more sketchy now"
"Sketchy?! YOU'RE recording!"
Yeah, he SHOULD BE! ALL police interactions should be recorded! And that applies to the Alphabet Bois
They think everything is sketchy xD, but really he only said that cuz the kid called him sketchy
Exactly. I really do wonder how many officers have 'accidentally' forgotten to turn on their recorders or the batteries gave out or what have you - so they can accost and badger people that themselves are not recording what is happening.
The 'alphabet boys'? Yes, I agree that the LGBTQXYZ+ should be recorded. Lmfao 😆
If these cops aren't held accountable, then it's evidence that the 1st and 4th amendments are just an illusion and that cops can literally get away with whatever they want to do.
@@Goodpatron Alphabet Boys refers to government agencies such as the CIA, FBI, & NSA.
- we dont know who this guy is
- we dont know how old he is
- we dont know the contents of his bag
conclusion: LETS TAKE HIM TO THE NEARBY HIGH SCHOOL 🤣🤣
7:28 "Are you supposed to be in school?"
"We're not in school."
"I don't know that, so all you have to do is prove that to me then." -- WRONG. The burden of proof is on the officer to demonstrate that the suspect has broken the law. The burden of proof is not on the suspect to demonstrate his innocence.
Innocent until proven guilty.
this is a perfect example between the difference of guilty until proven innocent, and innocent until proven guilty.
You can't prove a negative.
@@tntfreddan3138 in the US it's "guilty until proven innocent"
@@taylorbritt499 No it not...that's the problem, some cops act like that is the case, so do a lot of school administrators too.
Dude looks like he's 25, and they're stopping him for looking like a high school student. BS. They just wanted to harass him for auditing them.
Ignorant comment. Kids these days look incredibly old for their age
@@z9brigade The girls do because whatever is going on with the milk. The boys don't because they don't smoke cigarettes en masse anymore.
@@z9brigadeyou’re really trying to justify the cops actions?? Looks do not give police reasonable suspicion to demand identification
@@AyoBrian23 They shouldnt need reasonable suspicion, an officer should have the right to demand identification whenever he feels its needed and people shouldn't have the right to refuse
@@Pedro-vm1vg What do you mean? The state the guy was in clearly doesn't have that law except for driving like it was mentioned in the video.
What, he's going to check his homework too?
Absolutely ridiculous.
Oath-breaking pigs are always escalating.
Few people know Genghis Khan's real name. Kudos.
This happened to me when I was 18. I was at a bus stop across from a high school and I was actually on my way to college waiting for the bus
This is just an intimidation tactic.. they we’re pissed because dude was recording.
If you become a cop you should while on the clock forfeit your rights to privacy.
In US children are ARRESTED for ditching the school?? Jesus, why can't they just call their parents like pretty much entire WORLD??? Something is seriously wrong with US...
@@ggoddkkiller1342 School to prison pipeline. You have 3 options. Become a productive member of society, by force, or go to prison where you will be worked due to the exact language used in the 13th amendment, military is the side bar option which also can still lead to prison. Remember the military has extremely strict rules of conduct, while the police can empty a magazine into an unarmed man and get paid vacation for it.
@Xray Paul What about tracking children's absence rate and give warnings and fines to their parents if they get too high like the rest of civilized world, huh?? Instead of chasing teenagers on streets and often doing false arrests??? US is always finding a backward minded way to enforce things...
@Xray Paul I don't live nor will ever live in US where even CHILDREN are arrested like a third world shit hole...
"Go to Law School, stop watching RUclips" says the officer--That's funny, I've literally witnessed my supervising attorney going through this channel just to write down caselaw notes for his refsheet when in the courtroom. As far as watching RUclips goes for actual law, this channel is equally informative.
Though this channel can't be used as straight legal advice, it's still definitely useful to have someone do the searching for a specific law or case for you.
@@MK-bi1hj Bull, there is much better resources for finding case law than a RUclips channel.
@LOSER KID He said quote “I’ve literally witnessed my supervising attorney going through this channel just to write down case law notes” I call bullshit, so no; I clearly understood the outlandish statement he made.
@@william9922 Westlaw and Lexis are very expensive 😂
@@william9922 he didn’t say this channel was the “Main” or “Sole” source of information. It’s simply a tool or reference point to assist in gathering information. Doesn’t mean it’s actually used or cited in active litigation.
This whole thing comes down to the cop asking "Can you prove it?" Which is implying the suspect is guilty until he proves himself innocent.
11:38: “You watch too much RUclips.” 😂😂😂
“Why don’t you go to law school” 😂😂😂 as they harass a 19 year old for filming what could be a crime 😂😂😂
Guy should have shut his mouth once he told the officer he doesn't answer questions. That's a personal pet peeve, assert your right verbally and then don't answer any questions!
Things change when you've been physically assaulted we all get upset then.
You do understand that he is only 19 years old? How would YOU have handled this as a 19 year old with little life experience and hardly any legal knowledge. I’d say he did just fine.
@@PANAFRAZER probably would have said my age and went along with my day but hey that’s just me 😂
Exactly, you tell them that you are enforcing your fifth amendment right, and any other rights of yours that they violate they can contact your lawyer.
And do not stop recording anything and if they try and stop you if you have someone there with you you tell them record.
The idea that just hanging around (loitering) in the land of the “free” is an issue is kind of laughable
“Land of the free” doesn’t mean you can go around doing what you want 😂
No this stop wasn’t justified, the officer was irritated about him being recorded (which is fine) I’m just point out that’s not what “land of the free” means at all
You have freedom within the law (obviously)
@@austintylar8425 didn’t say it did mean that. The main point is that why is standing around in a public space a crime in any reasonable country
@@PhotonMonkeygames I’m not speaking for this case as I’ve said above it was unjustified, cop had no right to do what he did
But It just depends on what your doing/suspected of doing while standing in public, it’s never the fact of just being there
Videos rarely ever show the 911 call/all events leading up to the investigation or the emotions of the person, cop and situation (Again not talking about this video, the cop clearly approached out of anger)
That’s why it’s important for everyone to understand their laws and what is right/wrong/expected of law enforcement. People shouldn’t exercise their rights just because they can or to make police mad or to make their job hard, they should exercise their rights when needed to protect themselves 👍🏻
Fr. Unless you are trespassing you should be able to stand wherever you want.
@@mp40submachinegun81 outside a business in the middle of the night would be loitering, soliciting some places consider trespassing after dark? Any number if things, he could have gotten this as a robbery police call , maybe the guy bumped into the door and silent alarm went off
It’s any good reason to simply ask for ID, what is that gonna harm this guy if he has nothing to hide , cop coulda been gone in minutes
I got stopped for this when I was 23 just got of active duty from the Air Force. I asked the cop, “Are you serious?”
"I didn't kidnap this person officer, i transported them against their will."
"Ah, my mistake. Your free to leave.."
"How old are you?"
"How much do you weigh?"
"Where do you live?"
"What decade is that mustache from"
Officer - "Sir, what is the length of your penis?"
Innocent Suspect - "Wtf why?"
Officer - "So that I do not mistake it for a gun while I search you against your will."
@@VagueMemory 💪🏼🤣🤣🤣
Best comment ever
😂
The Mexican mustache thing is actually a cultural pride thing to show their Spaniard heritage. Mexico natives can't grow a mustache like Mexicans with Spaniard blood.
My understanding of it anyway. I get curious about weird stuff.
Big fat gut and blue jeans and this is the “professionalism” we are paying $150,000 a year for?
Ain't that some shit: they take our sales taxes and needlessly harrass non-violent offenders (99% of stops) meanwhile unsolved murders stack up and violent offenders walk.
They make $19.95 per hr.
That's not $150,000 a year!
Neither of those are relevant to what made this encounter unprofessional.
@@TheBuccaneerBandit-ck2jb source?
You want a source?
How about my arrest paper with their hourly wage on it bc I had to pay the sherriff their hourly wage.
"looking" underage is not a reasonable justification in my view, because it puts young-looking adults in a position in which the must at any time prove they are adults simply for being in public during school hours
“You look young, you should be in school.” “Well you look old, so you should be in a care home.” Man should’ve pulled an uno reverse card on them and see how they like it.
Thats stupid.....
@@brucecampbell6698 thank you for your insulting input, I cannot tell you how much I don’t care for it.
@@ellepoynton935 thank you sir!
hey lol
Elle Poynton correct
Cops: "You look like a minor so we're going to transport you against your will without the presence of a legal guardian"
Me: Wait, what?
I’m not familiar with the laws in any part of America but at least in Australia that would be exactly what would happen.
I don’t mean picking out someone who looks young and detaining them. For one thing, students here almost universally wear uniforms which, although it would be easy enough to change, makes it highly unlikely anyone not in a uniform would be questioned about being a school student, unless they were obviously very young.
But police routinely transport minors against their will and without a legal guardian.
I mean, what do police in America wait for a child’s parents to arrive before arresting them? If a minor is missing as soon as they were found police would take to the station or to home whether they liked it or not. Children can’t just be let go because they don’t want to be taken away by police.
Not to mention situations where the legal guardians are either also detained or not present when they should be. Children alone in public or left in a home unable to care for themselves etc.
@@emilchandran543 Its one thing to transport minors for their safety as you mentioned. Its another thing to detain minor which is what the OP referred to. Both are not same.
DUDE! You're actually fucking on to something. If they think you're a minor, LEAN INTO IT! Tell them to get your guardian on the phone. Tell them if they believe you're a minor, then they know they need to get a parent involved, and that's gonna be fucking hilarious.
Moe like
Cops: "You look like a minor, refuse to give any ID, refuse to state your age, you are near a public school, with a school looking backpack, and no statement of parental location. So we're going to transport you against your will without the presence of a legal guardian until we can confirm you are not ditching school or attempting to run away. "
fixed it for you.
@@emilchandran543 Well, at what point are you kidnapping someone and/or falsely imprisoning them? We can see that the cops are in the wrong so since there's no legal basis for their actions that means they're just illegally taking someone and holding them against their will.
If a minor is happy to consent to being taken somewhere by the police or another person because they're helping the person that's one thing but how do you justify taking a kid and not notifying a guardian? A kid doesn't have full legal authority for a lot of things and we recognize that they may not be as mentally capable as an adult because they're still developing hence why you would notify a guardian of the actions so they can ensure the safety of the kid.
I'd be pretty pissed if a cop took away my kid and refused to notify me. It would be one thing for them taking away an adult and not notifying me, at least I know the adult is capable of taking care of themselves. A 6 year old is NOT capable of taking care of themselves.
This is a constant problem. Officers retaliate against citizens when they video them. This has to end
Certainly did seem to be retaliation for exercising his First Amendment protected right to free press.
Das wrong he came to him because he looked like he should’ve gone to school. witchu slow ass
@@LiL-Top-Hat ikr that guy is slow af
make it a misdemeanor and prosecute them.
that's how they seem to want to "fix" every other "problem."
Only someone who has something to hide will not want to be surveilled.
So wait.... He looks young and you're tryna get him over to your car?! What do you mean by that, Sir????
5:38 cop: I'm trying to get you over to my car"
Kid: "Stranger danger!"
You look young.
5:52 - "I'm trying to get you over to my car."
Lol sounds bad
He should ask the cop if he's a pedo.
Ikr. What is with the creepy phrasing! So glad i am not a parent because i would tell my kid to never go anywhere with a stranger that is an adult alone and that includes cops!
"I'm trying to get you over to my car". "Maybe you should try some candy or maybe a puppy".
I graduated at 17. I wonder if this guy would have detained me and taken me to the school and they'd be, "Why the heck are you here?" I say this as if the cop wasn't mostly worried about harassing them because it hurt his ego to feel monitored by young people.
Same I just turned 17 and a couple months when I graduated but I think I would have just when with him to the school for the satisfaction of seeing him look real stupid
Me, too. I was 16, so would have probably been taken to jail?
I got in my first Uni when I was 16. I would've been mighty embarrassing to be kidnapped by an overreaching asshole with a badge and a power trip to be delivered to a random school for identification...
So if you are super-advanced and graduate from high-school at 16, you'd better stay in your house all day because it's illegal to be out in public?
I graduated at 17 as well
In the UK and Ireland we do not need to carry any form of identification in public. If you are driving, you're supposed to carry your driving license with you, but if you don't have it on you when stopped, you can be asked to present it to your nearest police station within something like a week to 10 days.