Hold on. Hold on... They illegally detained him, then charged him for crimes he didn't commit, and then offered to drop the criminal charges in exchange for money? Most people call that kidnapping for ransom.
And the number of cops that believe this is shocking. Complaints are pointless, that is why you have to sue. The police department and the city, the mayor, etc., will almost always say the police handled things properly.
The fact that courts say you have to blatantly say that you’re using your right to remain silent is just crazy to me. You shouldn’t have to say it, it should be the default
Like all awful SCOTUS decisions that favor law enforcement while stripping rights from citizens, we have the conservative justices to thank for these continued illegal decisions. And we have the GOP to thank for placing those judges. And ultimately, we have the simple-minded people who vote in the Republicans who destroy our freedoms more and more every day. That's right, GOP voters: you, useful pawns for the GOP, are easily manipulated through emotional means into helping the GOP destroy this country, with their ultimate goal being to make the Constitution meaningless by pointing Supreme Court judges who back the Republican push towards making America a fascist nation. Good job, "patriots."
I don't get why everyone says. Just simply say, I don't answer questions if that's the case. You would think by stating I don't answer questions. You are automatically invoking your fifth amendment. That should be pretty much common sense😂
This officer continually accusing him of being a smartass is such a pos. You aren't allowed to infringe on their ego without getting accused of being a smartass.
Because ignorance to the law isn't an excuse, so civilians learn the law and their rights. Ignorance to the law is encouraged for the police, because they are protected by qualified immunity.
This kid is really well versed in his rights and spoke respectfully the entire time. It is scary to think about what what happened to people before cellphone and body cameras.
It STILL happens with the cameras. I have watched far too many videos where the cops act as if they aren't wearing cams. They get away with it regardless. UNbelievable!!
Yeah, that key phrase was the red flag that they were not dealing with reasonable cops. I have never, ever, heard anyone utter the words "don't get smart with me" except to bully someone into submitting, because they can't win a rational discussion. May as well say "I am low IQ, bossy, and demand submission". It's what parents say when they _want_ to say "shut up and do what you're told", but deep down understand that sounds kinda a55enine, so they rephrase it.
respect? Both of them now have arrests on their records... good luck getting a good job. Oh sure, he can explain the situation, and even show them the video. Guess what, most HR departments won't care...
Oh Exactly! Remember the poll taken in 2017 among cops? Yes or No, if given the opportunity to have an easier job, better hours, better benefits and DOUBLE PAY... WOuld you leave law enforcement?? 85% said NO. DOUBLE PAY!!! STILL NO! 😂 says it All
It wasn’t just scary, people were permanently disabled or even murdered. People who were not committing crimes, who had no history of committing crimes.
It’s time to start holding prosecutors accountable as well. If they’re prosecuting a clearly unlawful arrest, knowing it’s unlawful, they should face consequences.
@@kybalion848 Treason is aiding and abetting the enemy. There's no enemy here. What the hell makes you jump to treason? Because they didn't follow the law as written? Rediculus
Yes, they should. The problem is that it's so difficult to find a prosecutor liable for unlawful prosecution. You would have to prove that they intentionally prosecuted you knowing it was wrong. We can't really prove what people know or don't know.
How frustrating is it when cops use aggressive language like "You got 'smart' with me." This young man is doing a very good job of not letting these THUG COPS violate his rights.
Imagine as a private citizen snapping at anyone in public and saying "don't get smart with me." These thugs probably aren't as tough without their badges and guns on...losers
@@runswithraptors they have a gang mentality, you can count on that. pick them alone, unarmed and without a radio to call reinforcements and see the difference
This lawyer is pro cop. He keeps conveniently leaving out how to hold police accountable. This video proves it. If an officer arrest you and doesn't articulate the crime he suspects you of committing or especially investigating, you can resist arrest and if you get injured, you can sue for a lot more and subject the officer to civil litigation since he not only broke policy but the law as well when you got injured (assault).
1: The Audit the Audit guy is not a lawyer, just well versed in case law surrounding citizen rights around police. 2: resisting arrest, even an unlawful arrest is STILL a crime. And resisting is a good way to die or never walk again, better to get your payday/justice in court then to be morally right and 6 feet under.
"We got a call" quickly turns to "Can I see some ID?", which then turns to escalation and an innocent person in handcuffs on the way to jail. That is the playbook for law enforcement in the US. Kudos to this kid for defending his constitutional rights, I hope he wins big in a lawsuit
Yeah good luck in n Korea … France .,.. England :.. etc Etc etc china most of these constitutional rights that these cops are breaking don’t exist in other countries …. Go to Canada and mouth off To the cops …. Good luck 😅😅😅
@@mycaddigo Nobody is talking about China or N. Korea. I lived in S. Korea, spent time in Canada, France and England. Cops over there don't even carry guns, you have no idea what you're talking about
He should use that money to go after the reason he was there. It sounds as if there was supposed to be a handover of a child for visitation and the person chose to call the cops on them instead of give the kid over…. Perhaps he showed up early and was waiting there. Not sure if it is her or his kid, but odds are a disgruntled ex is involved because of that new boy/girlfriend they are irrational and abusing the law. Cops sure hooked that person up! This was custodial interference on to of constitutional abuses.
@@evalex71 I lived in Canada for 30 years, cops routinely run roughshod over your 'rights', in fact, advocating for your rights will often get you a "what do you think this is, the US?" response from police. lawsuits are basically non-existent here because payouts are minimal, so lawyers and, more importantly, individuals who have been wronged don't bother pursuing them unless you are rich/ want to voluntarily go bankrupt.
I agree. There is not near enough attention given to the underhanded, sleazy, illegal, morally bankrupt DAs. Some knowingly prosecute innocent people and put them in prison just to make their percentage look good. Prison is where DAs belong that hold back exculpatory evidence.
DAs are elected officials that typically campaign that they'll be tough on crime. I mean nobody wants a DA who doesn't know how to get a conviction for the thieves, rapists, and other miscreants in the community. Furthermore, DAs are beholden to the PD for all their evidence in court. Therefore, DAs never want to antagonize PDs for fear of reprisal. All the chief has to do is tell his cops to go soft on investigations, suddenly the DA looks incompetent and loses re-election. Just look at what happened with Nurse Wubbels. The cop was recorded saying that he would start sending more homeless patients to that hospital because they suddenly refused to allow them draw blood on a patient without a warrant. So, don't think for a second that the actions of cops don't have sinister enablers within the community.
@@toddmorningstar4206 constitutionally if they’re illegally assaulting you, you have the right to self defense. In practice that’s not honored though so officers seem to think they have absolute authority whether what they’re demanding is legal or not.
I didn’t see the girl reach for them or touch them at any point, but when the officer was talking to his supervisor he said she was pulling on them. I really hope these two files complaints and lawsuits. Young enough to get a good down payment for their new home
Colorado passed a law that the cops can be individually sued and the cops themselves have to pay out from their own pocket. A few months after the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, Colorado lawmakers passed a qualified immunity ban for law enforcement officers. It allows officers to be sued individually with a cap of up to $25,000. Now the other 49 states and the federal government need to follow this.
Yep, no accountability for these officers from the court system or their department means they want them to act this way. If cops do something like this and they go unpunished, it simply means they are ok with the cops doing it. It's the sad reality we live in.
It's up to us to hold them accountable. Keep recording and when they break the law we allow them to, so we can beat their ass in court. Overtime the police stations were learn to educate new cops on stuff like this. Especially if they keep having to doll out settlements.
@@donDanDeNiro You just watched a whole video with case studies presented, and you're talking about they were obstructing. Are you ok in the head? Cops don't get to abuse their power just because people don't want to deal with them
It's insane how they can just say the magic words "you're under arrest" and then you suddenly have to identify yourself or you get another charge even when the initial arrest was unlawful. It all stacks.
It’s all a bunch of bullshit, the system is a scam, we’re indoctrinated in our schools to follow without question. It all adds up to a totalitarian regime
@@markmixon1121 Kinda, though in Texas it is only a crime to not ID if you have been lawfully arrested, whether or not you have been lawfully arrested is a matter for the court. You are always safer by IDing after arrest
We should not have to verbally invoke the 5th amendment for it to be valid in court. Nowhere in the amendment does it say anything about having to actively invoke it. It's an inalienable right and shame on the courts for twisting it.
If you look at that Texas case, the guy did not use his right to remain silent from the start. If he did, he probably would have kept his 5th amendment protections.
Actually, @StuffBenLikes, AtA has shown, time and again, that you have to invoke your 5th Amendment right at all times for it to be valid. Your wanting, or need, to doesn't change the law.
@@austen98 The law is the 5th amendment, and it's pretty plainly written. Requiring it to be specifically invoked is against the written law. The courts have changed the law and we should be upset, not "that's the way things are."
@@donDanDeNiropolice officers should choose their words better if what he tried to Say was for him to not fuck around he is stupid as fuck and childish lol
I hate that things are determined by use of words like that. It should be clear cut for the common man. It should be either/or and not something to be determine by a judge later on.
4th amendment, in general. I have literally never met a cop who understood the 4th amendment. They ALL think they can escalate it, then your right goes away, somehow.
I think that a basic google-level i.q. test would be enough. None of the officers i ever saw acting like this in this channel are capable of articulate the most rudimentary linear thought process required by an elementary school essay. At least in my country is clear-cut: do as a cop says or he shoots you and nothing happens.
By offering a plea deal, the prosecutor is just trying to prevent these people from suing the police and the prosecutor from having to charge the police with false arrest. I'm glad to hear that the couple are not having it! I wish them well.
If the prosecutor did his job he would know there is no basis for the arrest in the first place so by offering a plea deal instead he is complicit in the corruption and incompetence and should be a party to any law suit as well.
@@peterbuckley3877 💯!!! The US (in)justice system is beyond a joke at this point. It’s supposedly “innocent until proven guilty”, while in reality it operates the other way around. The government and our “civil servants” are basically a mob and their lackeys. It’s shameful, embarrassing, and overall absurdly dangerous and enraging..
Does the prosecutor not know the law either? If he watched the body cams he could clearly see that this couple surely knows their rights and laws, so he trying to pull, that should be another fraudulent charge.
Yep, two more coproaches who are clueless what rights violations are and acted illegally when forcing the citizens to do something against their will when they had not committed a crime or infraction. FTP, keep earning the hate parasites!
@@LYFT3D You pay tax dollars to keep people off the streets that break the law, these cops are breaking the law. So that would be money well spent if you ask me.
Oooh, that's an amazing idea! I was just thinking today that I should Google illegal stop videos in my state and then scroll through and watch all the AtA videos I could field from my state, but then I was worried that wouldn't work because the state usually isn't in the title...😕 A series would be amazing.
I think it's refreshing!!!...not all of our younger generation have been contaminated and permanently ruined by their public school indoctrination and actually know how to use the brain God gave them...keep up the good work!!!
UPDATE: The two officers who first attended the call lost the lawsuit and were held accountable for the unlawful arrest and search of both the man and the woman. I am not sure what the department did with the police officers, they may have been suspended, or demoted, I don't know. All that matters is they were held accountable for their wrong-doings. Those two officers were disgusting.
I always wonder with these exactly what moment do the officers begin to realize that they royally screwed up and that within the next couple of months this is going to come back to bite them in the butt.
I offer my wholehearted support to you, Mr. Sean. You are a brave, outstanding, and excellent human being who deserves the highest respect and admiration. Your courage and dedication in standing up for what is right are truly commendable. Keep up the great work!
The correct response to that is "In response to your comment, which could be perceived as threatening and potentially retaliatory and intending to inhibit my right of free speech, Officer, I hereby inform you that the Supreme Court has ruled that a civilian may speak freely to police, even cursing and using derogatory language, all as part of their First Amendment right of free speech. On request I will be more than happy to recite specific examples of such speech - not, of course, meaning anything derogatory to any officers present, but only for educational purposes, you understand."
Absolutely, we have rights as citizens and exercising your rights should never be criticized especially by law enforcement. If the person is wrong, the officers can correct them and if mistakes are made on either end, they can be addressed. If the officers are running up against people's rights, they need to find another way instead of just trampling over them.
@@cocoval77 Nah, jail. Obviously it's not currently a criminal offense to grossly violate someone's rights, but I'd be fine with criminal statutes being passed to criminalize it. Civil penalties obviously aren't enough. This is just what you're seeing now that cameras are ubiquitous. Before cameras were everywhere, this stuff still happened, and worse. Imagine what you haven't seen. This is just the tip of the iceberg, and violating people's rights is a common occurrence in law enforcement. The cops need to have actual consequences happen to them when they violate people's rights, and civil consequences aren't getting the job done. Cops still routinely act this way and even claim to be trained to act this way. Maybe if they could be actually held criminally responsible, they would change their behavior. Or if not, we'd have a good remedy.
I would not have denied getting smart. I would have said, "I'm already smart and certainly smarter than you. I know the law and I know my rights. I'm exercising my 5th. I'm not IDing and I'm not answering your questions. So please, I'm begging you to arrest me. I'm looking forward to suing the city for hundreds of thousands based on your ignorance of the law. Here are my hands. I DARE you to put the cuffs on me!"
ROBERT JORDAN, THE MAN WHO CONNECTICUT POLICE SAID WAS ‘TOO SMART TO BE A COP’ In 1997, the 46-year-old sued his local police department after being denied a job there because he scored too high on an intelligence test. More bizarre still, the courts sided with law enforcement"
OFFICER "I'm not getting smart, I'm already smart, and officer if you were smart, you wouldn't be so busy trying to escalate this situation and getting us to do your INVESTIGATION.!
this channel needs to come up with a network of lawyers to help these wrongfully accosted people and sue the local governments in behalf of the innocent people and make money in the process and publicize and remove the police for abuse of authority and civil rights abuse
Except they don't know their rights 🤣 They were conducting an investigation and here's what the law says in that specific state: In New Jersey, the law requires people to stop and provide their identification to law enforcement officials when asked. However, this requirement only applies to instances where the police are conducting an investigation or issuing a summons. The police can ask you to stop and identify yourself if they have reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime.
@@JokersWild70 what crime was commited and what made the officers think they did it? did you even watch the whole video? it shows the regarding laws. and showing that those young ppl were well within their rights. from an outside pov though, i still find it odd that you don't have to provide ID. like, you could be a wanted serial killer and just deny to ID. and then later some oranizations will cry about why they were not caught for so long.
And the guy the cops were talking to 'literally says' "I don't want to incriminate myself". That's effectively an admission that he has criminal action to hide.
@@codbdup88 Nowhere did I say, or even think, they had anything to arrest someone on. But they did have ample probable cause to question both subjects, due to the unusual accuracy of the description the 911 caller gave. Investigations also often develop probable cause to arrest. In this case, the two subjects thwarted any investigation.
@@markstone1619 you said he had something criminal to hide. Saying I don’t wanna incriminate myself doesn’t mean your trying to hide crimes you’ve done. Innocent ppl get arrested a lot and most ppl are nervous and anything they say can be twisted.
The cops assertion that "no ID = Obstruction" is trotted out so many times that it must be being taught as a goto arrest tactic. The supervisors and training academies must face some hard questioning to get any accountability.
Cops love vague and ambiguous magic spells like "Disorderum", "Obstructicus", and "Resistorium" to cast on people to poof them away to the dungeon. They are happy to arrest people for resisting arrest like some sort of twisted Ouroboros. Many of them think they're allowed to walk up to random people on the street for no reason and demand ID and people are required to give it to them just because they're cops. The whole world has a cop problem.
"I got a call here, so I have a reason to be here.... that means you have to id yourself." I have heard this at least 20 times, from different officers.
Maybe they are taught to tell people that, as a lie, to get them to identify. But then later after the training they forget that it is only a lie. I also suspect they think anything that obstructs their investigation is illegal rather than understand exactly what the obstruction law defined as obstruction.
These cops seem to think their investigation process should be "We will keep escalating this situation until you obey everything we tell you, no matter what or why." They turned nothing into crimes for no reason.
Remember the old cop shows they'd drive around in plain clothes and investigate things? Now they run around with bells and whistles and toys courtesy of the military state and harass people for existing in public.
@@I.____.....__...__ I don't think it was ever stated that the couple were auditors. Long Island Audit posted the video originally, but those people are not LIA.
It’s actually terrifying that we are allowing police to just abduct and arrest whoever they want now. Qualified immunity needs to go and all lawsuits needs to be paid by the police pensions
We don't allow it. Police are no longer protect and serve in the community. It's detain and arrest, militant. Most people will call the arrested guilty before a trial and should be reminded often that the arrested are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. We all need to understand law.
Would love to see police forces implement a “malpractice-like-insurance.” If you’re a bad cop then your premiums are going to be high and make them possibly unemployable to many police forces.
I love how the cops keep explaining how they got the call, as if that's this man's problem. They may have an obligation to investigate, but he has no obligation whatsoever to comply with their requests.
They act like you're guilty until proven innocent anytime they get a tip from a caller. You would think they would verify the information the caller gave them before violating someone rights
That’s what they always say is we gotta call. So next time if you’re stopped by them and they say well we need your id because we gotta call. Tell them ok so if I call you and tell you that the gentleman walking through the parking lot over there flew out to Saudi Arabia 20 minutes ago and fucked your sister and came back now does that mean you can just identify him because you got a call?
The way he educated the officers, handcuffed in the back of the car, is admiral. I would be losing my mind trying to get through to them. He's really calm even when officers are clearly incorrect in the proper detaining and arresting procedures for NJ. smh.
He knew the laws better than them, still tried to make them aware of their own mistakes and inform them of ability and still got arrested. You can talk sense to mentally insane people but once you realize you're captured by them, it's over... they refused to understand reason and it's evident they just needed to not be certified to be in the position they're in.
An admiral is a high ranking naval officer. 😆 The word you meant to use is admirable. A lot of cops think that by wearing a badge it somehow makes them legal scholars! 🤦♂️
@@Jacob-cm6ws 100% they have no idea of the damage they have (just caused), lol because they've got no (just cause), also no desire to learn from, or take responsibility for thier mistakes. And how can they, with a crooked D.A.or is ignorance running rampant in this precinct or in the public service profession entirely?
How is it that in 2023 these guys STILL don't know how to do their jobs. A mechanic who can't fix cars gets fired, a cook who burns food gets fired. A cop who violates the law and earns lawsuits gets promoted.
Easy question to answer .. Mechanics and Cooks are not in a National Union that can call on legal resources that can both buck and manipulate the system ...
Many, many cops do their job out of a sense of duty to the community. I applaud them. A fair number do it because if they tried to be a mechanic and fix cars, they'd get fired when the cars aren't fixed. I just hope they're not too bullheaded to get better at it. And a handful do it because they want to bully people. That sort finds their way into these kinds of videos disproportionately often. And really should be screened out of any line of work with implied authority. That sort shouldn't even be a shift manager at a fast food place. If that sort gets into a leadership position in a precinct, then that municipality will soon have a 'gang problem' and they'll be wearing uniforms.
Not to mention they get a paid vacation while their boss "investigates" the issue, then get to attend remedial training with full pay when they return. It's such a fucking joke.
You can be respectful and kind without being too “soft”. I don’t know you, but you should never allow anybody to bully you. That starts with your nonverbal communication or body language. Instead of saying “I got bullied”, think about what you could’ve done to prevent that.
@@theretrobot8629what a useless comment, clearly in context he’s speaking about how in the academy compassion (ie kindness) is looked down upon despite it being a necessary component of deescalation. Kindness is also integral to respect which is essential to prevent the overly inflated egotistical bullshit that we often see in these horrible police interactions. A bit of kindness would’ve diffused the whole situation in the video.
@@theretrobot8629 yeah, clearly the correct response was to fight back. That’s exactly the kinds of people we want patrolling the streets with firearms
The officer lied to his supervisor and made 2 illegal arrests. Fire and sue both of these tyrants. Don't forget to sue the police academy that failed to properly train them.
Cops always lie to their supervisor in the moment, then try to recant later like they didn't remember they were being videotaped. Remove qualified immunity and watch how fast these cops change.
don't forget to get the history of those cops ie arrest , complaints and revues . sue their bonding agents for bonding a criminal . go after their training officer and the head of the dept . .
Or prosecuted - any rights violation you could sue for in civil court is also a handcuffs & jail cell offense under criminal statutes. Ideally BOTH sued and prosecuted.
So according to the officer, you are allowed to refuse to give id and then the officer can arrest you in which case you have to give id. Does that sound right to you you? Sounds like coercion to me.
The fact that the cops starts out telling him “don’t be a smart ass” tells me how the rest of the interaction will go. If your feathers are already ruffled all because someone said , “ I don’t answer questions”--you should NOT be a cop
Never will i understand how regular everyday civilians on the streets know the laws better than the ones who are supposed to enfore them. It happens over and over! Smh 🤦
Imagine if you were as bad at your job as police officers like this are. You’d get fired in a heartbeat. You’d get charged and punished for illegal actions like kidnapping, brandishing weapons, assault, etc.
@@jsbzoh6 It's so weird that in a field of work that is supposed to be about keeping the peace and protecting civilians from dangerous people, the people within that feild are terrible at their job. You'd think the expectations would be higher.
Yeah, total incompetence from these two 'officers'. Just to add though, there were no suspects, is was a domestic incident involving a custody dispute, no crime was even suspected of being committed.
Because being "smart" (read just knowing your rights) makes them have to actually put some effort into breaking the law and violating people's rights and they hate that. The worst part is that you're supposedly expected to know the law, but if you do, they get mad at you. 🤦
His wife or girlfriend did well too. Often times not both parties are educated and the cops tactics will cause one party to give in to the cops demands.
Mr. Daniel's gets an A++ in my book. While he was being questioned he was respectful and the only arguing he did was in support of his constitutional rights. Way to go.
@@PalaceofPlacentia it was civil. there was no reason for it to lead to an arrest especially because it was a civil matter. the only thing these officers should’ve done was make contact with the caller and explain that it’s civil and the proper route would be going to a court house. then left.
@@TheDuke78 this video is bull shit someone set them up for the fall. you either want the cops to investigate crime or you dont. its that simple , if people had respect and shut thier big gobs we would all get along fine
The fact that the DA offered to drop the criminal charges in exchange for a civil fine is mind boggling! How could a DA, presumably a lawyer, honestly look at this video and think the officer was in the right?!
That’s why the DA should be a party to any lawsuit. Either he is grossly incompetent or as corrupt as these police but either way he shouldn’t be in the job or even practising law for that matter.
Because the DA KNEW no charge would ever stick and was desperate to preserve their conviction rate. Cop are worthless cowards and D.A's are complicit because the system will ALWAYS protect it's tools. Cops are nothing more than weaponized stupidity, they don't care about the law, they have less training than a hairdresser. They get 70+ K a year to be a blunt instrument... they are basically S.A. Brownshirts updated to the 21st century.
@@peterbuckley3877 When they sue the pants off of the city, the DA (while not directly involved) will end up looking like a clown and I guarantee he won't last long in office after costing the city money
@@kaisalis7895 he should be listed as a party to the suit just to make sure just as much blame is proportioned to him. To offer a plea deal if they don’t sue is an atrocious abuse of the law and if anything he needs to be disbarred.
Because the DA specifically exists to oppress the population. They are legitimately your enemy at all times, a direct expression of government power over you. That's why you always get a defense lawyer if a DA is trying to make *any* kind of "deal"
They always want to charge you with "resisting arrest" and "obstruction of justice" or "disorderly conduct" or "failure to ID" but what did they do to get those charges to begin with because they weren't charged with anything else but those things.
Those are bogus laws by conception. They punish people for standing up for themselves. And now they are used as a catch all to arrest you just because. They really should not be a law at all.
@@NBeaver-bx4yl Most of the time they can't. Don't we all live on the same planet? Don't we all see these oceans of cases where officers unlawfully arrest somebody after they don't get an ID? Why do I on the other side of the planet know more about state laws in the US than actual US police officers?
Why? There are no consequences for any actions a cop takes, under any circumstances. Why would cops care about the law, even a little bit? It doesn't apply to them. Clearly.
We need to change the law to let Citizens sue individual cops, not the department. This kind of situation would stop REAL QUICK because don't make much money.
game theory of that world would give us even more powerful conglomerates and some minor paper wins for citizens. that is the game were are in right now. i hope i'm wrong. and you are right.
@@madtabby66 Not when they can afford a great lawyer and you cannot. Also, the police have a literal budget to defend police like this and can also hire a whole team of lawyers.
Every time I see a police car next to me or behind me, I feel SO UNSAFE! These guys, especially the new ones who haven't been on the job long, are so power hungry and want to intimidate you
@@burningsnow9870 They'd pull you over for not flashing your turn signals but here in LA where I reside, 99% of patrol cars never use theirs and do rolling stops all the time. I was pulled over once because I guess I didn't let 5 secs go by before I started moving my vehicle again past a Stop sign
I'm in Canada. We had the worst mass shooting a few years ago, and it was a fella dressed as RCMP and had a car done up like one of their cars. 17 people died that day (one unborn baby), and after that, no one felt safe with the cops. People were refusing to get out of their vehicles right after it happened, until they got confirmation from 911 that the cop was really a cop. Plus the RCMP did some sketchy stuff during the shooting.... it's a whole thing now.
The best advice l can offer to you is, prepared to FIGHT BACK!! Please bare in mind that what you're up against here are NOT law enforcement officers. These are armed thugs in uniforms with a badge and armed to the teeth. They don't give a fuck as to what strata of society you belongs. "Our duty is to make sure that you don't live a mormal life. We are here to disrupt it."
When cops believe that "getting smart" with them is a crime. 😆 Imagine having people that know almost nothing about the law, doing "law enforcement." That'd be like going for medical treatment and having a guy say, _"I ain't never did no doctorin,' but I'll give her a try."_
It's an intimidation tactic. They are hoping that they will not be able to afford to defend themselves appropriately or they take a plea, which harms their ability to seek a civil finding in their favor. The government is able to abuse the tax payers by trying these futile cases, and then ultimately getting sued and losing, so they just go through the motions.
@SaltyBrains true, but that makes it conspiracy to deprive rights by the prosecutor and the police supervisers. They all are criminals who belong in prison.
They were brave to assert their rights. I honestly think I would have been too intimidated to resist. I also applaud how well versed they were on their rights
#1 I don’t know anything about what your investigating. #2 Since I’ve committed no crime I don’t answer questions about myself. #3 investigate. all you want. I’m under no compulsion to do your job for you. Am I free to leave? #4 (after threat) Retailation under color of law is a good way to throw your qualified immunity (and your job) in the shitter.
Don't let them intimidate you. If they are unstable enough to violate your rights and or assault you, they may do that whether or not you assert your rights and or refuse unlawful orders. Knowing your rights make you powerful and a difficult target for abuse and exploitation. Use Google and YT to identify your basic rights granted by the US Constitution and your state's Constitution. Learn what police can and can't do in your state.
the result will be the same as when a school is showing a video about bullying: The bullies will learn new ways to bully and how to ride the very edge between "unfriendly" and low level bullying.
@@sarowie Man, you know, I also thought that it was a good idea for these kinds of videos to be shown in police academies, training courses, law enforcement college course etc. But after reading what you wrote, you are 100% correct. It wouldn't do anything at all to stop these kinds of situations from playing out.
@@sarowie I agree with you however, this is the law. For the most part the law won’t change and the majority of police officers will hopefully learn from these types of scenarios. I’m someone that strongly believes in learning from mistakes and I think showing these kinds of videos in police academy’s is nothing but beneficial.
Mr ATA. thank you for your confirmation, i typed my suggestion prior to hearing your exact recommendation. It does work. everyone try it on your next visit by these people.
In most states, being a plumber takes 576 days of classroom/lab work at a state-recognized trade school, plus 4/5 years as an apprentice. But only 3 to 6 months in the police academy (a joke) to be a cop, yet they give them a badge, a gun, and qualified immunity. So how does this make any sense?
The only people who are signing up at the academy today are people who have predetermined through a conscious thought process that they want to be career criminals. That is why it has gotten so out of hand, every last one of them become involved in organized crime after receiving their badge. (This is not a sustainable situation, at a certain point something breaks in a big way on a national scale. A very volatile situation gone past a point of no return, things are going to get very messy in the not so distant future I fear.)
THey like it that way. the stupider the better when it comes to police for them. Easier to control, and if something goes wrong, you scapegoat them and blame them. Just like these dumbass cops will get fired, but the training and department will train 2 exactly like them in 2 weeks.
When they say dont get smart, what they mean is dont use your intelligence and knowledge of the constitution and laws because they dont know or follow them and it makes them angry that you know their job better than them. One would think this is a problem, but those in charge dont care about your life or mine. Arm, educate, defend your rights, to the death if necessary.
@@deputyrock3489 i'm of the opinion that one should stand their ground without getting impolite. it's hard to fight a bogus charge with a bullet in the brain. some (not all, btw bootlickers) of these badge- holding thugs are loose cannons waiting for a reason to ruin your life.
Big talk. But very few (including you) will fight the cops and kill/die to avoid an unlawful detention/arrest. A smarter approach is to know your rights, do not give them up, and if they are violated, go through the process to hopefully get paid by the department that wronged you.
It pisses me off to no end when BOTH officers try to talk OVER EACHOTHER while copsplaining to this citizen. Zero intelligence between the two of them, absolute utter trash.
I am baffled that every police department in the country doesn’t do yearly trainings on what “obstruction” actually is and isn’t. This seems to be such a common issue that usually ends with the city having to pay a lot of money to lawsuits.
you don’t seem to get it, officers know *exactly* what obstruction is, they just know that 90% of regular people don’t. for every one case of a city paying out in a lawsuit over police misconduct like this, there’s probably about a hundred more where they don’t and the officer gets their way sight unseen. they’re all criminals.
Most give the correct training and the feeling of commonality is because every bad interaction is taped because it’s problematic. You don’t usually record a good police interaction and you probably wouldn’t spend your time chasing footage of a body cam for a cop who did nothing wrong.
Actually this was just another home invasion by two clowns masquerading as "law enforcement" broken up by two innocent knowledgeable citizens simply standing their ground on public property when faced with two mentally challenged TYRANTS who mistakenly thought they were "alpha males" when in actuality both were sub-beta instead...with no teaticles and very small penises...the dredded "small penis complex" when combined with "cop attitude" leaves you with two "$ex toys" being locked in a cell with a huge black homosexual with a 20 inch penis with their name tattooed on the head!...OUCH!!!...both are now accepting gifts of KY jelly and Preparation H...
“We’re trying to tell if you’re involved” aka if you answer you’re 50%/50% involved or not. So you either get removed from the “scene” or are now detained (for admitting being involved).
I love how its “illegal” to make a cops job harder. And of course, once a cop gets you in the back of the car, they are automatically correct in everything they say. This is a training and education issue. They are trained to make money, not to stop murders and robberies.
I believe they are doing exactly what they've been trained to do: follow orders without question and make the plebs aware of who's in charge. This is a leadership issue more than anything else.
The surprising thing that happens with every single one of these interactions is the sheer contempt these cops have for anyone exercising their rights. They *hate* you! Absolutely HATE you! Their whole demeanour is brimming with spite.
The amount of times cops will ask "so where did you go to law school?" Or tell you to not get smart with them just because you know your rights is ludicrous
It's high time anyone wishing to become a police officer earn a Bachelors degree in such subjects as criminal justice, constitutional rights, and de-escalation techniques.
@@philtorres2975 That's undoubtedly true in some cases, for sure. I believe it's become painfully obvious that a few months at the police academy is insufficient. If not a full Bachelors degree, more training and more effort to screen out these power-tripping testosterone-driven uneducated menaces is sorely needed!
I think one of the biggest issues in police training is that officers are trained to criminalize. They're not taught case law and how the case law applies in situations. They're taught to use laws to their advantage to criminalize and to "stay in control of situations" example is how this trooper used obstruction to arrest after ID refusal despite it not being lawful in this situation as well as it being a violation of the man's 4th amendment
@DigBar are they taught how the case law applies to different situations cause we see videos everyday about them not knowing the laws/case laws that applies to a specific situation
Hold on. Hold on... They illegally detained him, then charged him for crimes he didn't commit, and then offered to drop the criminal charges in exchange for money? Most people call that kidnapping for ransom.
Good Point.
America
Extortion. Pay us this fine or we'll charge you with a crime.
American police cowardly logic. Officers like that SHOULD BE SENTENCED FOR LIFE!!!!
A.K.A. bail
Cop: "You have the right to remain silent."
Citizen: "I'll exercise that right."
Cop: "You're under arrest for obstruction of justice."
And the number of cops that believe this is shocking. Complaints are pointless, that is why you have to sue. The police department and the city, the mayor, etc., will almost always say the police handled things properly.
whats worse is they did nt even get that far, because they werent arresting them. they took their right away before reading it to them.
Lol
He should have stopped talking at the start..stop arguing
@@jemshadow123okay, fascist!
"You're not incriminating yourself , you're answering a question.", said no defense lawyer ever.
"So... now that that's clear... did you kill that guy?"
@@stephengrigg5988 Bwah hah ha!
Thanks I needed that laugh.
@@stephengrigg5988 🤣👏🏻
🤦🏾♂️
Tell me you do not understand the law without saying you do not understand the law.
The fact that courts say you have to blatantly say that you’re using your right to remain silent is just crazy to me. You shouldn’t have to say it, it should be the default
Rights aren't super powers you turn on and off like SHAZAM hahahahab
You'd think remaining silent is an obvious invokation of the right to remain silent 🤷
Like all awful SCOTUS decisions that favor law enforcement while stripping rights from citizens, we have the conservative justices to thank for these continued illegal decisions. And we have the GOP to thank for placing those judges. And ultimately, we have the simple-minded people who vote in the Republicans who destroy our freedoms more and more every day. That's right, GOP voters: you, useful pawns for the GOP, are easily manipulated through emotional means into helping the GOP destroy this country, with their ultimate goal being to make the Constitution meaningless by pointing Supreme Court judges who back the Republican push towards making America a fascist nation. Good job, "patriots."
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic Nope. Intelligent people actually invoke their right to remain silent.
I don't get why everyone says. Just simply say, I don't answer questions if that's the case. You would think by stating I don't answer questions. You are automatically invoking your fifth amendment. That should be pretty much common sense😂
Pro-tip: Never take legal advice from a cop.
What whatever you do, don't be 'smart'... 🤣
@@crimony3054 what what in the butt.
Hell you can't even take it from lawyers these days.🤦♂️
Are they even allowed to give legal advice?
Why is a large part of the picture blanked out? Are the cops scared of showing what actually happened?
This officer continually accusing him of being a smartass is such a pos. You aren't allowed to infringe on their ego without getting accused of being a smartass.
To a dumb ass everyone is being a smart ass by asserting their rights. There are no Rhodes Scholars looking to get into the police academy.
@notfiveo Why not?
He sounds drunk. The way his speech is slightly slurred sounds like he had a few shots before the encounter.
Saying he's just asking a question , 'not trying in incriminate' him, but later tells him "we got a call on the car, not on you or her"..
I dont think he ever said that. He says "Dont get smart". That is WAY worse.
How did 2 random citizens know more about the law than every police officer on the scene and the state prosecutor?
// 😮😂
The prosecutor knew the cops messed up. That offer was to build a foundation for defense in a lawsuit
It's good to understand the rules of the games you play.
Because ignorance to the law isn't an excuse, so civilians learn the law and their rights.
Ignorance to the law is encouraged for the police, because they are protected by qualified immunity.
😂😂😂😂😂 2 Random KIDS!
This kid is really well versed in his rights and spoke respectfully the entire time. It is scary to think about what what happened to people before cellphone and body cameras.
It STILL happens with the cameras. I have watched far too many videos where the cops act as if they aren't wearing cams. They get away with it regardless. UNbelievable!!
People just fucking identified and went on about their day lol
@@toddbell508 what a shit take
@@toddbell508Move to China where you have no rights if that’s what you like buddy. This is the USA 🇺🇸.
@@toddbell508I guess it was hard for you to pay attention to the video with that boot so far down your throat
Cops saying, "You were getting smart with me" is a key indicator of a power trip.
Ego trumps ethics ..
Yeah, that key phrase was the red flag that they were not dealing with reasonable cops.
I have never, ever, heard anyone utter the words "don't get smart with me" except to bully someone into submitting, because they can't win a rational discussion.
May as well say "I am low IQ, bossy, and demand submission".
It's what parents say when they _want_ to say "shut up and do what you're told", but deep down understand that sounds kinda a55enine, so they rephrase it.
Officers generally don't like when a citizen is Smarter than they are... so they generally have a problem with all citizens!
It’s not. Pay attention to what the cop says. He is repeating everything he learned in _training_
Yeah contempt of cop they call it
Mad respect to the couple for exercising their rights and not folding to the officers demands.
Or the prosecutor's
@@markbrown8097 that prosecutor should be fired
respect? Both of them now have arrests on their records... good luck getting a good job. Oh sure, he can explain the situation, and even show them the video. Guess what, most HR departments won't care...
@@TEverettReynolds annnnnddd how does that not earn them my respect? Our society is corrupt and broken....ur point?
When they start with I don't answer questions we know what's up
Can you guys just imagine what happened before these cameras were a thing? It's actually so scaryy.
These cops should be ashamed that two random citizens are better at descalation than they are.
Oh Exactly! Remember the poll taken in 2017 among cops? Yes or No, if given the opportunity to have an easier job, better hours, better benefits and DOUBLE PAY... WOuld you leave law enforcement??
85% said NO.
DOUBLE PAY!!! STILL NO! 😂
says it
All
Ned Kelly situations
It wasn’t just scary, people were permanently disabled or even murdered. People who were not committing crimes, who had no history of committing crimes.
@@billybowman3891 wild yo. Are there any incident reports?
It’s amazing that you can do nothing wrong but still end up in handcuffs and arrested , No matter what calls the officer gets
It’s time to start holding prosecutors accountable as well. If they’re prosecuting a clearly unlawful arrest, knowing it’s unlawful, they should face consequences.
Should be a form of treason, where they serve mandatory minimum prison sentences and can never serve in a government position again.
@@kybalion848 Treason is aiding and abetting the enemy. There's no enemy here. What the hell makes you jump to treason? Because they didn't follow the law as written? Rediculus
Yes, they should. The problem is that it's so difficult to find a prosecutor liable for unlawful prosecution. You would have to prove that they intentionally prosecuted you knowing it was wrong. We can't really prove what people know or don't know.
@@Boggyboytad Well, there are a plethora of City, State, and Federal charges can certainly be brought against these officers.
Just go after their bonds!
How frustrating is it when cops use aggressive language like "You got 'smart' with me." This young man is doing a very good job of not letting these THUG COPS violate his rights.
You're expected to know the law to not commit crimes… but you're expected to NOT know the law when the cops are the ones committing the crimes.
Imagine as a private citizen snapping at anyone in public and saying "don't get smart with me." These thugs probably aren't as tough without their badges and guns on...losers
Exercising your Constitutional Rights isn't "getting smart." Way too many cops believe this.
@@runswithraptors they have a gang mentality, you can count on that. pick them alone, unarmed and without a radio to call reinforcements and see the difference
@@drantil they don't say shit when they're alone. Backup shows up then they're all big and bad!!😂😂
Citizens knowing their rights is getting smart. This is why these videos are good and necessary.
Lol
Until it turns into sovereign citizens who have literally no idea what modernized laws are
@@WTCheatShaming common sense isnt common, no idea what you're on about but i assume this applies
This lawyer is pro cop. He keeps conveniently leaving out how to hold police accountable.
This video proves it.
If an officer arrest you and doesn't articulate the crime he suspects you of committing or especially investigating, you can resist arrest and if you get injured, you can sue for a lot more and subject the officer to civil litigation since he not only broke policy but the law as well when you got injured (assault).
1: The Audit the Audit guy is not a lawyer, just well versed in case law surrounding citizen rights around police. 2: resisting arrest, even an unlawful arrest is STILL a crime. And resisting is a good way to die or never walk again, better to get your payday/justice in court then to be morally right and 6 feet under.
"reasonable suspicion" to a police officer means: EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL DISRESPECTED.
That list is a mile long.
"We got a call" quickly turns to "Can I see some ID?", which then turns to escalation and an innocent person in handcuffs on the way to jail. That is the playbook for law enforcement in the US. Kudos to this kid for defending his constitutional rights, I hope he wins big in a lawsuit
Yeah good luck in n Korea …
France .,..
England :.. etc
Etc etc china most of these constitutional rights that these cops are breaking don’t exist in other countries ….
Go to Canada and mouth off
To the cops …. Good luck 😅😅😅
@@mycaddigo Nobody is talking about China or N. Korea. I lived in S. Korea, spent time in Canada, France and England. Cops over there don't even carry guns, you have no idea what you're talking about
He should use that money to go after the reason he was there. It sounds as if there was supposed to be a handover of a child for visitation and the person chose to call the cops on them instead of give the kid over…. Perhaps he showed up early and was waiting there. Not sure if it is her or his kid, but odds are a disgruntled ex is involved because of that new boy/girlfriend they are irrational and abusing the law. Cops sure hooked that person up!
This was custodial interference on to of constitutional abuses.
@@evalex71 I lived in Canada for 30 years, cops routinely run roughshod over your 'rights', in fact, advocating for your rights will often get you a "what do you think this is, the US?" response from police. lawsuits are basically non-existent here because payouts are minimal, so lawyers and, more importantly, individuals who have been wronged don't bother pursuing them unless you are rich/ want to voluntarily go bankrupt.
How are you so sure he is innocent. Think it's more likely he was not.
Start giving the DA a rating. They deserve some more attention for trying to pressure them into a plea deal even through they were innocent.
YES.
This country needs a lot of reform... But if we start with the DAs...other institutions will follow.
I agree. There is not near enough attention given to the underhanded, sleazy, illegal, morally bankrupt DAs. Some knowingly prosecute innocent people and put them in prison just to make their percentage look good. Prison is where DAs belong that hold back exculpatory evidence.
Good idea!
YAAAAAAS
DAs are elected officials that typically campaign that they'll be tough on crime. I mean nobody wants a DA who doesn't know how to get a conviction for the thieves, rapists, and other miscreants in the community. Furthermore, DAs are beholden to the PD for all their evidence in court. Therefore, DAs never want to antagonize PDs for fear of reprisal. All the chief has to do is tell his cops to go soft on investigations, suddenly the DA looks incompetent and loses re-election. Just look at what happened with Nurse Wubbels. The cop was recorded saying that he would start sending more homeless patients to that hospital because they suddenly refused to allow them draw blood on a patient without a warrant. So, don't think for a second that the actions of cops don't have sinister enablers within the community.
"You're not incriminating yourself, you're answering questions" -.-
Fire him, please.
Basically because he doesn't want to help them with their investigation, he's being smart and has to be arrested. Cops have gone mad!
In a better place, a citizen would use the second amendment to defend themselves.
@@categoricamente1753 From the cops?
@@toddmorningstar4206 constitutionally if they’re illegally assaulting you, you have the right to self defense. In practice that’s not honored though so officers seem to think they have absolute authority whether what they’re demanding is legal or not.
Cops may have gone mad, but why didn't the prosecutor immediately drop the charges, when they are so clearly in the wrong?
Kanye was right.
I didn’t see the girl reach for them or touch them at any point, but when the officer was talking to his supervisor he said she was pulling on them. I really hope these two files complaints and lawsuits. Young enough to get a good down payment for their new home
This will never stop until officers are actually held accountable. Sadly, that will never happen.
It will also stop as soon as LEOs get a proper training and education. That's how developed countries handle that problem...
Colorado passed a law that the cops can be individually sued and the cops themselves have to pay out from their own pocket.
A few months after the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, Colorado lawmakers passed a qualified immunity ban for law enforcement officers. It allows officers to be sued individually with a cap of up to $25,000.
Now the other 49 states and the federal government need to follow this.
Yep, no accountability for these officers from the court system or their department means they want them to act this way. If cops do something like this and they go unpunished, it simply means they are ok with the cops doing it. It's the sad reality we live in.
It's up to us to hold them accountable. Keep recording and when they break the law we allow them to, so we can beat their ass in court. Overtime the police stations were learn to educate new cops on stuff like this. Especially if they keep having to doll out settlements.
@@Mike_416 it’s been like that
The NJ prosecutor that pursued this case should be disbarred.
Cops egos getting hurt, and then escalating every situation will never stop pissing me off
Nope. The boy, girl and grey truck matched the description of the call. failing to identify is therefore obstruction to the investigation.
These Police Is Being Over Zealous Who Care If Their Feelings Are Being Bruised And Then They Get Aggressive And Continue To Escalate The Situation
@@donDanDeNiro You just watched a whole video with case studies presented, and you're talking about they were obstructing. Are you ok in the head? Cops don't get to abuse their power just because people don't want to deal with them
@@donDanDeNiro boot lickers gonna lick
@@donDanDeNiro You NEVER have to talk to the cops and only need to ID if you are suspected of a crime or violation and they need RAS for that.
It's insane how they can just say the magic words "you're under arrest" and then you suddenly have to identify yourself or you get another charge even when the initial arrest was unlawful. It all stacks.
It’s all a bunch of bullshit, the system is a scam, we’re indoctrinated in our schools to follow without question. It all adds up to a totalitarian regime
I don’t know about where they are but in Texas you only have to ID after you have been lawfully arrested.
@@markmixon1121 that's likely true everywhere but it's another charge to fight and you'd need to prove the initial arrest was unlawful.
@@markmixon1121 Kinda, though in Texas it is only a crime to not ID if you have been lawfully arrested, whether or not you have been lawfully arrested is a matter for the court. You are always safer by IDing after arrest
The USA is a joke yo😂😂😂
“You’re obstructing an investigation” just seems like an excuse to arrest someone for not listening to unlawful commands
Bingo.
Your learning
*sniff* I smell marijuana.
@@ajolleyduck2933 doesn't matter in NJ anymore
These cops don’t even know what obstruction means. They’ve been taught to weaponize those words to get an arrest
Someone called us, so we have an obligation to violate as many rights as humanly possible in the shortest amount of time.
We should not have to verbally invoke the 5th amendment for it to be valid in court. Nowhere in the amendment does it say anything about having to actively invoke it. It's an inalienable right and shame on the courts for twisting it.
If you look at that Texas case, the guy did not use his right to remain silent from the start. If he did, he probably would have kept his 5th amendment protections.
Actually, @StuffBenLikes, AtA has shown, time and again, that you have to invoke your 5th Amendment right at all times for it to be valid. Your wanting, or need, to doesn't change the law.
It's a rigged game where only one side typically knows the rules.
@@austen98 The law is the 5th amendment, and it's pretty plainly written. Requiring it to be specifically invoked is against the written law. The courts have changed the law and we should be upset, not "that's the way things are."
@@austen98 But hey, keep bootlicking and ignore the plainly written 5th amendment and side with the government who has twisted it!
"There's no need to get smart with a police officer"
It's like they're afraid of smart people
Get smart does not imply is smart though.
@@donDanDeNiropolice officers should choose their words better if what he tried to Say was for him to not fuck around he is stupid as fuck and childish lol
My reply would have been - "Is it a crime to 'get smart' with the police? Leave me alone if you dont want me to answer you than"
“Keep it that way” i woulda turned into Einstein
“I’m Sorry! I’ll dumb it down for you. Iiiiii doooooooon’t annnnnnswerrrrrrrr quessssssstiooooooooons. Zat better?!”
Apparently, 99% of law enforcement officers in the U.S. need to attend a six-week seminar on the definition of the word "reasonable".
I hate that things are determined by use of words like that. It should be clear cut for the common man. It should be either/or and not something to be determine by a judge later on.
4th amendment, in general.
I have literally never met a cop who understood the 4th amendment.
They ALL think they can escalate it, then your right goes away, somehow.
That's unreasonable!
Also the meaning of "obstruction" under the applicable statutes.
I think that a basic google-level i.q. test would be enough. None of the officers i ever saw acting like this in this channel are capable of articulate the most rudimentary linear thought process required by an elementary school essay. At least in my country is clear-cut: do as a cop says or he shoots you and nothing happens.
All because someone called , so that gives them the right to bother people
By offering a plea deal, the prosecutor is just trying to prevent these people from suing the police and the prosecutor from having to charge the police with false arrest. I'm glad to hear that the couple are not having it! I wish them well.
If the prosecutor did his job he would know there is no basis for the arrest in the first place so by offering a plea deal instead he is complicit in the corruption and incompetence and should be a party to any law suit as well.
@@peterbuckley3877 💯!!! The US (in)justice system is beyond a joke at this point. It’s supposedly “innocent until proven guilty”, while in reality it operates the other way around. The government and our “civil servants” are basically a mob and their lackeys. It’s shameful, embarrassing, and overall absurdly dangerous and enraging..
Does the prosecutor not know the law either? If he watched the body cams he could clearly see that this couple surely knows their rights and laws, so he trying to pull, that should be another fraudulent charge.
@@cindyk6411 it appears that the only people who actually knew the law weren’t the police or anybody actually paid to know it.
@@peterbuckley3877 facts
These cops are something else. “Why won’t you let us violate your rights!!?”
“Because you have no Reasonable articulable suspicion to warrant me to forfeit my rights!”
Yep, two more coproaches who are clueless what rights violations are and acted illegally when forcing the citizens to do something against their will when they had not committed a crime or infraction. FTP, keep earning the hate parasites!
Should be a minimum of 6 months in prison for any officer that does this. I bet it would make them actually learn the law and uphold it correctly.
Agreed
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST COMMENT IT COST 40k TO HOUSE A INMATE FOR A YEAR
Jon macnevin that is a stupid answer. Why would the people pay tax dollars for someone who threatens them?
@@ChrisHodge1978 dumb ass solution. Sounds like you people want someone to do something for you
@@LYFT3D You pay tax dollars to keep people off the streets that break the law, these cops are breaking the law. So that would be money well spent if you ask me.
You should do a series of videos for each state so viewers can learn which of these search and ID laws apply to them
Just Google it. There are only 23 stop and ID states. Thank God I don't live in one ...not that it matters. 😢
Oooh, that's an amazing idea! I was just thinking today that I should Google illegal stop videos in my state and then scroll through and watch all the AtA videos I could field from my state, but then I was worried that wouldn't work because the state usually isn't in the title...😕
A series would be amazing.
@@judykincaid4066 Doesn't matter if it is a stop and identify state. They still need RAS to demand your name, DOB, and address.
Sometimes it's really embarrassing when kids know more of the law than those who are employed to enforce it.
Sometimes?!?!? Don't you mean ALL 😆 these cops are pathetic
I think it's refreshing!!!...not all of our younger generation have been contaminated and permanently ruined by their public school indoctrination and actually know how to use the brain God gave them...keep up the good work!!!
They know most laws, they just try to convince you to do their biding.
Too bad most just scream and shout "I can't breathe!" for social clout & media likes instead of using their heads & building lawsuits.
@@anonygrazer3234 youre a sad human being.
UPDATE: The two officers who first attended the call lost the lawsuit and were held accountable for the unlawful arrest and search of both the man and the woman. I am not sure what the department did with the police officers, they may have been suspended, or demoted, I don't know. All that matters is they were held accountable for their wrong-doings. Those two officers were disgusting.
Suspended,demoted Lmffo like most situations like these , they get promoted
@absolutelynot10
I guarantee the cops themselves paid nothing nor did they lose their certificate.
Horsewhipping renegade cops is desparately needed.
@@MT-kx2ucthis guy gets it
These cops should be jailed
I love the part where the officer blatantly lies to his superviser about what happened.
They all do that. Then they look stupid hrs later going thru video footage
The silence of the supervisor is lovely too, he knows what's going on, but SU because the cameras are on.
Exactly lies lies lies those 2 both should be fired
I always wonder with these exactly what moment do the officers begin to realize that they royally screwed up and that within the next couple of months this is going to come back to bite them in the butt.
They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo
I offer my wholehearted support to you, Mr. Sean. You are a brave, outstanding, and excellent human being who deserves the highest respect and admiration. Your courage and dedication in standing up for what is right are truly commendable. Keep up the great work!
the whole "don't get smart with a police officer" and "keep it that way. KEEP IT THAT WAY". was a direct threat right off the bat
I could feel the bad vibes emanating from that statement.
💯
In England police say "nothing to hide, nothing to worry about" like it's check mate at that point
Right ? You don’t get smart with the police. The police get smart with you and dare you to do something about it.
The correct response to that is "In response to your comment, which could be perceived as threatening and potentially retaliatory and intending to inhibit my right of free speech, Officer, I hereby inform you that the Supreme Court has ruled that a civilian may speak freely to police, even cursing and using derogatory language, all as part of their First Amendment right of free speech. On request I will be more than happy to recite specific examples of such speech - not, of course, meaning anything derogatory to any officers present, but only for educational purposes, you understand."
When cops describe asserting your rights as "getting smart" they need to be thrown in jail.
For real.
Absolutely, we have rights as citizens and exercising your rights should never be criticized especially by law enforcement. If the person is wrong, the officers can correct them and if mistakes are made on either end, they can be addressed. If the officers are running up against people's rights, they need to find another way instead of just trampling over them.
*fired
@@cocoval77 Nah, jail. Obviously it's not currently a criminal offense to grossly violate someone's rights, but I'd be fine with criminal statutes being passed to criminalize it. Civil penalties obviously aren't enough. This is just what you're seeing now that cameras are ubiquitous. Before cameras were everywhere, this stuff still happened, and worse. Imagine what you haven't seen. This is just the tip of the iceberg, and violating people's rights is a common occurrence in law enforcement.
The cops need to have actual consequences happen to them when they violate people's rights, and civil consequences aren't getting the job done. Cops still routinely act this way and even claim to be trained to act this way. Maybe if they could be actually held criminally responsible, they would change their behavior. Or if not, we'd have a good remedy.
I would not have denied getting smart. I would have said, "I'm already smart and certainly smarter than you. I know the law and I know my rights. I'm exercising my 5th. I'm not IDing and I'm not answering your questions. So please, I'm begging you to arrest me. I'm looking forward to suing the city for hundreds of thousands based on your ignorance of the law. Here are my hands. I DARE you to put the cuffs on me!"
“There’s no need to get smart with police officers…”
That says it all. His attitude is already off to a bad start. Total disregard of respect
what he really meant was "let me violate your rights"
@@mrphenom1643 ''what he really meant was "let me violate your rights and you better enjoy it"....Finished it for you LoL...You're welcome ; 0)
So the DA knows the charges are bs and offers to drop the charges if the victims pay? How Is that not illegal?
“You have the right to remain silent”
“Not answering questions is obstructing”
_”No need to get smart with a police officer.”_
Stay on their level and remain stupid.
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😂😂😂
They will beat you with experience
Not hard to get smart with a cop after all most cops took 16 years or more to go from k to 12.
ROBERT JORDAN, THE MAN WHO CONNECTICUT POLICE SAID WAS ‘TOO SMART TO BE A COP’
In 1997, the 46-year-old sued his local police department after being denied a job there because he scored too high on an intelligence test. More bizarre still, the courts sided with law enforcement"
@@the_even_toed_ungulate. And a nightstick
Crazy how questioning a cop is getting "smart".
Dude should have said, "I can't get smart with you because you wouldn't understand".
Yeah, I am getting smarter than you!
@@bobbylee6859 I would have said "somebody in this interaction needs to be smart"
When they say “are you getting smart?”… simply say “No not at all. I’m trying to get YOU smart!”… they really hate it trust me lol
OFFICER "I'm not getting smart, I'm already smart, and officer if you were smart, you wouldn't be so busy trying to escalate this situation and getting us to do your INVESTIGATION.!
this channel needs to come up with a network of lawyers to help these wrongfully accosted people and sue the local governments in behalf of the innocent people and make money in the process and publicize and remove the police for abuse of authority and civil rights abuse
It’s great to see young people understanding and utilizing their rights as Americans.
Except they don't know their rights 🤣 They were conducting an investigation and here's what the law says in that specific state: In New Jersey, the law requires people to stop and provide their identification to law enforcement officials when asked. However, this requirement only applies to instances where the police are conducting an investigation or issuing a summons. The police can ask you to stop and identify yourself if they have reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime.
@@JokersWild70 It’s great to see young people understanding and utilizing their rights as Americans.
@@JokersWild70 what crime was commited and what made the officers think they did it? did you even watch the whole video? it shows the regarding laws. and showing that those young ppl were well within their rights. from an outside pov though, i still find it odd that you don't have to provide ID. like, you could be a wanted serial killer and just deny to ID. and then later some oranizations will cry about why they were not caught for so long.
Still doesn't get them anywhere. They still never hold these loser cops accountable. They should ALL be put in prison to find a boyfriend.
@@melissaohlrich2418 It’s great to see young people understanding and utilizing their rights as Americans.
The cop literally says “I don’t think you did anything wrong” that’s an admission to no crime he lost his case at that point.
And the guy the cops were talking to 'literally says' "I don't want to incriminate myself". That's effectively an admission that he has criminal action to hide.
Courts have ruled cops are allowed to lie
@@markstone1619 that’s not enough probable cause to arrest someone. You have to have a statute to arrest someone.
@@codbdup88 Nowhere did I say, or even think, they had anything to arrest someone on.
But they did have ample probable cause to question both subjects, due to the unusual accuracy of the description the 911 caller gave.
Investigations also often develop probable cause to arrest. In this case, the two subjects thwarted any investigation.
@@markstone1619 you said he had something criminal to hide. Saying I don’t wanna incriminate myself doesn’t mean your trying to hide crimes you’ve done. Innocent ppl get arrested a lot and most ppl are nervous and anything they say can be twisted.
The cops assertion that "no ID = Obstruction" is trotted out so many times that it must be being taught as a goto arrest tactic. The supervisors and training academies must face some hard questioning to get any accountability.
Cops love vague and ambiguous magic spells like "Disorderum", "Obstructicus", and "Resistorium" to cast on people to poof them away to the dungeon. They are happy to arrest people for resisting arrest like some sort of twisted Ouroboros. Many of them think they're allowed to walk up to random people on the street for no reason and demand ID and people are required to give it to them just because they're cops. The whole world has a cop problem.
If this was allowed (using obstruction charges) then there is no point in having the right to not identify.
"I got a call here, so I have a reason to be here.... that means you have to id yourself."
I have heard this at least 20 times, from different officers.
It's the same reason for pulling you out of your car, "For Officer safety".
Maybe they are taught to tell people that, as a lie, to get them to identify. But then later after the training they forget that it is only a lie. I also suspect they think anything that obstructs their investigation is illegal rather than understand exactly what the obstruction law defined as obstruction.
These cops seem to think their investigation process should be "We will keep escalating this situation until you obey everything we tell you, no matter what or why." They turned nothing into crimes for no reason.
Remember the old cop shows they'd drive around in plain clothes and investigate things? Now they run around with bells and whistles and toys courtesy of the military state and harass people for existing in public.
It’s for the future
Very common cop behavior.
This officer thinks the law allows him to "ask, tell, make" whenever he deems fit, instead of when he's legally allowed to
@@runswithraptors I gotta say, taking old cop shows to heart doesn't support your point very well
"No need to get smart with me." That's telling AF.
I Love how they spend so much time trying to justify their actions to him. What a bunch of tools.
Yeah massive bully and power tripper.
@@UnderbellyNZ yep
Should have told him that someone needs to have a little intelligence on the scene, and obviously it wasn't going to be him.
I wish he asked them to explain how he was getting smart and whether that was a crime ?!
So proud of this young man for knowing his rights and clearly articulating them to these numbnuts.
He's a first-amendment auditor, that's literally what he does. 😒
The irony is lost on the LEO that kept saying, "Don't get smart with me."
I'm assuming he also has friends call in fake 911 calls with a description to match himself also.
@@I.____.....__...__ Long Island Audits covered the story it’s not him in the video dummy
@@I.____.....__...__ I don't think it was ever stated that the couple were auditors.
Long Island Audit posted the video originally, but those people are not LIA.
It’s actually terrifying that we are allowing police to just abduct and arrest whoever they want now.
Qualified immunity needs to go and all lawsuits needs to be paid by the police pensions
We don't allow it. Police are no longer protect and serve in the community. It's detain and arrest, militant. Most people will call the arrested guilty before a trial and should be reminded often that the arrested are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. We all need to understand law.
And they wonder why tax-payers don't want to keep paying cops to hurt them. 🙄
I'm on my way to Trenton right now. I'm going to introduce myself to these two cops and teach them a lesson. 👊
@@RobbieStacks90 bro even if this is just you shit talking on the internet, this shit could EASILY get you a visit from the fbi
Would love to see police forces implement a “malpractice-like-insurance.” If you’re a bad cop then your premiums are going to be high and make them possibly unemployable to many police forces.
I love how the cops keep explaining how they got the call, as if that's this man's problem. They may have an obligation to investigate, but he has no obligation whatsoever to comply with their requests.
Yeah ; it’s like the Bat Signal….!
Cop gets a call : everyone is guilty.
Exactly 💯
They act like you're guilty until proven innocent anytime they get a tip from a caller. You would think they would verify the information the caller gave them before violating someone rights
That’s what they always say is we gotta call. So next time if you’re stopped by them and they say well we need your id because we gotta call. Tell them ok so if I call you and tell you that the gentleman walking through the parking lot over there flew out to Saudi Arabia 20 minutes ago and fucked your sister and came back now does that mean you can just identify him because you got a call?
They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo.
The way he educated the officers, handcuffed in the back of the car, is admiral. I would be losing my mind trying to get through to them. He's really calm even when officers are clearly incorrect in the proper detaining and arresting procedures for NJ. smh.
He knew the laws better than them, still tried to make them aware of their own mistakes and inform them of ability and still got arrested. You can talk sense to mentally insane people but once you realize you're captured by them, it's over... they refused to understand reason and it's evident they just needed to not be certified to be in the position they're in.
Admiral, like a high ranking naval officer. Admirable, like something that is worthy of admiration.
An admiral is a high ranking naval officer. 😆
The word you meant to use is admirable.
A lot of cops think that by wearing a badge it somehow makes them legal scholars! 🤦♂️
@@Jacob-cm6ws 100% they have no idea of the damage they have (just caused), lol because they've got no (just cause), also no desire to learn from, or take responsibility for thier mistakes. And how can they, with a crooked D.A.or is ignorance running rampant in this precinct or in the public service profession entirely?
Its cause its so easy to become a cop in the usa. Tons of morons sign up. Tons of people who got bullied and remember that every time they wake up
How is it that in 2023 these guys STILL don't know how to do their jobs. A mechanic who can't fix cars gets fired, a cook who burns food gets fired. A cop who violates the law and earns lawsuits gets promoted.
Easy question to answer .. Mechanics and Cooks are not in a National Union that can call on legal resources that can both buck and manipulate the system ...
Many, many cops do their job out of a sense of duty to the community. I applaud them.
A fair number do it because if they tried to be a mechanic and fix cars, they'd get fired when the cars aren't fixed. I just hope they're not too bullheaded to get better at it.
And a handful do it because they want to bully people. That sort finds their way into these kinds of videos disproportionately often. And really should be screened out of any line of work with implied authority. That sort shouldn't even be a shift manager at a fast food place. If that sort gets into a leadership position in a precinct, then that municipality will soon have a 'gang problem' and they'll be wearing uniforms.
@@Ronin-tp4vx resources that we pay for and are used against us. All fixed.
Not to mention they get a paid vacation while their boss "investigates" the issue, then get to attend remedial training with full pay when they return. It's such a fucking joke.
...because also in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union Police like this couldn´t get fired! Don´t you realize it`?
I was bullied throughout police academy for being too “soft” and too”kind”. Need I say more?
Yea you a punk. No reason a grown man should be getting bullied
You can be respectful and kind without being too “soft”. I don’t know you, but you should never allow anybody to bully you. That starts with your nonverbal communication or body language. Instead of saying “I got bullied”, think about what you could’ve done to prevent that.
@@theretrobot8629what a useless comment, clearly in context he’s speaking about how in the academy compassion (ie kindness) is looked down upon despite it being a necessary component of deescalation. Kindness is also integral to respect which is essential to prevent the overly inflated egotistical bullshit that we often see in these horrible police interactions. A bit of kindness would’ve diffused the whole situation in the video.
@@theretrobot8629 yeah, clearly the correct response was to fight back. That’s exactly the kinds of people we want patrolling the streets with firearms
Why were you in the police academy at the very first place? Loser...
The officer lied to his supervisor and made 2 illegal arrests. Fire and sue both of these tyrants. Don't forget to sue the police academy that failed to properly train them.
YEP, THEY ALWAYS SPIN THS STORY AND COMPLACENT "SUPERVISORS" DON' T QUESTION THEM TO GET THE TRUTH.
Cops always lie to their supervisor in the moment, then try to recant later like they didn't remember they were being videotaped.
Remove qualified immunity and watch how fast these cops change.
don't forget to get the history of those cops ie arrest , complaints and revues . sue their bonding agents for bonding a criminal . go after their training officer and the head of the dept . .
reviews .... sorry ..:D
Or prosecuted - any rights violation you could sue for in civil court is also a handcuffs & jail cell offense under criminal statutes. Ideally BOTH sued and prosecuted.
How can this kid have a better understanding of the law than these “law enforcement” officers. These officers are a menace.
It makes a difference to him.
All cops are menaces
So according to the officer, you are allowed to refuse to give id and then the officer can arrest you in which case you have to give id. Does that sound right to you you? Sounds like coercion to me.
The pigs know the law, they just don't give a shit about it when they think it serves their purpose to 'ignore' the law.
Because he “got smart”.
Call John the civil rights lawyer, he's all over RUclips, good luck
The fact that the cops starts out telling him “don’t be a smart ass” tells me how the rest of the interaction will go. If your feathers are already ruffled all because someone said , “ I don’t answer questions”--you should NOT be a cop
Never will i understand how regular everyday civilians on the streets know the laws better than the ones who are supposed to enfore them. It happens over and over! Smh 🤦
Cops arent trained
Imagine if you were as bad at your job as police officers like this are. You’d get fired in a heartbeat. You’d get charged and punished for illegal actions like kidnapping, brandishing weapons, assault, etc.
It’s simple. Anyone who is competent and educated would never want a job that is high stress, high risk, low pay, and generally view as villain.
@@jsbzoh6 It's so weird that in a field of work that is supposed to be about keeping the peace and protecting civilians from dangerous people, the people within that feild are terrible at their job. You'd think the expectations would be higher.
We know the laws because we’re the ones held accountable when we break them.
"You have a right to refuse, but then we have a right to arrest you."
That is not how rights work.
I literally lol'd when he said that
I know he just contradicts himself over and over it hurts I feel so bad for these people
Meanwhile the legitimate emergency is being unaddressed because the Officers 6- weeks of training failed.
I love how they turn these 2 into criminals while ignoring the actual reason why they were looking for 2 suspects in a truck to begin with.
There were two criminals there, it turns out.
They’ve got ADHD
Yeah, total incompetence from these two 'officers'. Just to add though, there were no suspects, is was a domestic incident involving a custody dispute, no crime was even suspected of being committed.
@@gabrieltippery3873 yes, there were 2 police officers there, so you're right, there were criminals there
@@gomez_tooraw3378 I think that’s what they meant.
It's always amazing when people say "you tried to get smart with me". As if we are supposed to be dumb to make them feel smarter about themselves.
Because being "smart" (read just knowing your rights) makes them have to actually put some effort into breaking the law and violating people's rights and they hate that. The worst part is that you're supposedly expected to know the law, but if you do, they get mad at you. 🤦
Im proud of this well mannered young man, he handled this flawlessly, law suit should follow 👍
acab
ABSOLUTELY WILL WIN LAWSUIT!!!
His wife or girlfriend did well too. Often times not both parties are educated and the cops tactics will cause one party to give in to the cops demands.
Bahahahaha!!! They don't even know their rights! WTF are you talking about???
@@JokersWild70
Bahahaha are you seeing something different or are you just asshole cop?
Mr. Daniel's gets an A++ in my book. While he was being questioned he was respectful and the only arguing he did was in support of his constitutional rights. Way to go.
“It’s not a crime to be suspicious”
Well… he has a point
no but , if the phone call comes in about 2 people matching their discerption you stop and detain them until you can clear them from the investigation
@Henry Tudor depending on what the accusations are. Anybody can make a phone call. That doesn't obligate people to have to ID themselves.
@@PalaceofPlacentia it was civil. there was no reason for it to lead to an arrest especially because it was a civil matter. the only thing these officers should’ve done was make contact with the caller and explain that it’s civil and the proper route would be going to a court house. then left.
@@taisheramedley9595 if the suspects tried to be civil they wouldnt be an issue
@@TheDuke78 this video is bull shit someone set them up for the fall. you either want the cops to investigate crime or you dont. its that simple , if people had respect and shut thier big gobs we would all get along fine
The fact that the DA offered to drop the criminal charges in exchange for a civil fine is mind boggling! How could a DA, presumably a lawyer, honestly look at this video and think the officer was in the right?!
That’s why the DA should be a party to any lawsuit. Either he is grossly incompetent or as corrupt as these police but either way he shouldn’t be in the job or even practising law for that matter.
Because the DA KNEW no charge would ever stick and was desperate to preserve their conviction rate. Cop are worthless cowards and D.A's are complicit because the system will ALWAYS protect it's tools. Cops are nothing more than weaponized stupidity, they don't care about the law, they have less training than a hairdresser. They get 70+ K a year to be a blunt instrument... they are basically S.A. Brownshirts updated to the 21st century.
@@peterbuckley3877 When they sue the pants off of the city, the DA (while not directly involved) will end up looking like a clown and I guarantee he won't last long in office after costing the city money
@@kaisalis7895 he should be listed as a party to the suit just to make sure just as much blame is proportioned to him. To offer a plea deal if they don’t sue is an atrocious abuse of the law and if anything he needs to be disbarred.
Because the DA specifically exists to oppress the population. They are legitimately your enemy at all times, a direct expression of government power over you.
That's why you always get a defense lawyer if a DA is trying to make *any* kind of "deal"
They always want to charge you with "resisting arrest" and "obstruction of justice" or "disorderly conduct" or "failure to ID" but what did they do to get those charges to begin with because they weren't charged with anything else but those things.
Yeah I got charged with resisting arrest and assault on a police officer with no charges leading up to the cop putting his hands on me
They hurt the cop's feelings. 😭
@@bojohannesen4352 The point is that resisting an unlawful arrest shouldn't be a crime.
Secondary charges.
Those are bogus laws by conception. They punish people for standing up for themselves. And now they are used as a catch all to arrest you just because. They really should not be a law at all.
Those cops didnt know the basic laws around questioning a person. Just foolish
I’m blown away I’m still seeing officers arrest people for “obstructing” after not getting an ID.
Because there is scenarios where they can. But this wasn't one.
@@NBeaver-bx4yl Most of the time they can't. Don't we all live on the same planet? Don't we all see these oceans of cases where officers unlawfully arrest somebody after they don't get an ID?
Why do I on the other side of the planet know more about state laws in the US than actual US police officers?
Why? There are no consequences for any actions a cop takes, under any circumstances. Why would cops care about the law, even a little bit? It doesn't apply to them. Clearly.
They did that shit to my girlfriend last month
You would think they all would have learned by now in the age of "camera's, you tube videos, and going viral" in that exact order!!
We need to change the law to let Citizens sue individual cops, not the department. This kind of situation would stop REAL QUICK because don't make much money.
Except cops are very well paid. In Jersey, this mook probably gets six-figure salary, his illiterate muscle about 80K.
Its called qualified immunity. In some instances you can sue the officer directly
@@sdnlawrence5640 and? Sue their ass and that 80k shrinks fast
game theory of that world would give us even more powerful conglomerates and some minor paper wins for citizens. that is the game were are in right now. i hope i'm wrong. and you are right.
@@madtabby66 Not when they can afford a great lawyer and you cannot. Also, the police have a literal budget to defend police like this and can also hire a whole team of lawyers.
Every time I see a police car next to me or behind me, I feel SO UNSAFE! These guys, especially the new ones who haven't been on the job long, are so power hungry and want to intimidate you
I always hold my breath cause I live near a speed trap along a popular road in my area. I see people pulled over every day
@@burningsnow9870 They'd pull you over for not flashing your turn signals but here in LA where I reside, 99% of patrol cars never use theirs and do rolling stops all the time. I was pulled over once because I guess I didn't let 5 secs go by before I started moving my vehicle again past a Stop sign
@@MrRoda8143 bruh fuck that
I'm in Canada. We had the worst mass shooting a few years ago, and it was a fella dressed as RCMP and had a car done up like one of their cars. 17 people died that day (one unborn baby), and after that, no one felt safe with the cops. People were refusing to get out of their vehicles right after it happened, until they got confirmation from 911 that the cop was really a cop. Plus the RCMP did some sketchy stuff during the shooting.... it's a whole thing now.
The best advice l can offer to you is, prepared to FIGHT BACK!!
Please bare in mind that what you're up against here are NOT law enforcement officers.
These are armed thugs in uniforms with a badge and armed to the teeth.
They don't give a fuck as to what strata of society you belongs.
"Our duty is to make sure that you don't live a mormal life. We are here to disrupt it."
When cops believe that "getting smart" with them is a crime. 😆
Imagine having people that know almost nothing about the law, doing "law enforcement." That'd be like going for medical treatment and having a guy say, _"I ain't never did no doctorin,' but I'll give her a try."_
The fact they still want to prosecute them baffles me. I hope the lawsuit goes thru.
It's an intimidation tactic. They are hoping that they will not be able to afford to defend themselves appropriately or they take a plea, which harms their ability to seek a civil finding in their favor. The government is able to abuse the tax payers by trying these futile cases, and then ultimately getting sued and losing, so they just go through the motions.
It's a bluff
@SaltyBrains true, but that makes it conspiracy to deprive rights by the prosecutor and the police supervisers. They all are criminals who belong in prison.
@@admthrawnuru all that can be used in these peoples court case along with the words of the officers.
I know way, they know it's going to be a massive pay out so trying to get them to pay a fine and admit wrong doing protects the officers. That's why.
They were brave to assert their rights. I honestly think I would have been too intimidated to resist. I also applaud how well versed they were on their rights
We must always practice civil disobedience, it's the only way to stop this. These tyrants must be stopped.
#1 I don’t know anything about what your investigating.
#2 Since I’ve committed no crime I don’t answer questions about myself.
#3 investigate. all you want. I’m under no compulsion to do your job for you. Am I free to leave?
#4 (after threat) Retailation under color of law is a good way to throw your qualified immunity (and your job) in the shitter.
@@StephenArdentI love this answer! thank you for this!!!
Don't let them intimidate you. If they are unstable enough to violate your rights and or assault you, they may do that whether or not you assert your rights and or refuse unlawful orders.
Knowing your rights make you powerful and a difficult target for abuse and exploitation. Use Google and YT to identify your basic rights granted by the US Constitution and your state's Constitution. Learn what police can and can't do in your state.
@@StephenArdent that would definitely get them flustered 😂
This video is another example of why Audit the Audit needs to be shown in every police academy in America.
the result will be the same as when a school is showing a video about bullying:
The bullies will learn new ways to bully and how to ride the very edge between "unfriendly" and low level bullying.
@@sarowie Man, you know, I also thought that it was a good idea for these kinds of videos to be shown in police academies, training courses, law enforcement college course etc. But after reading what you wrote, you are 100% correct. It wouldn't do anything at all to stop these kinds of situations from playing out.
or every school in the united states. why are we not educating our children on this?
100%
@@sarowie I agree with you however, this is the law. For the most part the law won’t change and the majority of police officers will hopefully learn from these types of scenarios. I’m someone that strongly believes in learning from mistakes and I think showing these kinds of videos in police academy’s is nothing but beneficial.
Mr ATA. thank you for your confirmation, i typed my suggestion prior to hearing your exact recommendation. It does work. everyone try it on your next visit by these people.
In most states, being a plumber takes 576 days of classroom/lab work at a state-recognized trade school, plus 4/5 years as an apprentice. But only 3 to 6 months in the police academy (a joke) to be a cop, yet they give them a badge, a gun, and qualified immunity. So how does this make any sense?
The only people who are signing up at the academy today are people who have predetermined through a conscious thought process that they want to be career criminals. That is why it has gotten so out of hand, every last one of them become involved in organized crime after receiving their badge.
(This is not a sustainable situation, at a certain point something breaks in a big way on a national scale. A very volatile situation gone past a point of no return, things are going to get very messy in the not so distant future I fear.)
Because the powerful must have foot soldiers to secure the status quo so their power is never challenged.
Even a barber takes longer. A lawyer that has to know laws takes 4. But yeah cops taking less than a year is ridiculous
They're hiring anybody nowadays, even ex gang members...
THey like it that way. the stupider the better when it comes to police for them. Easier to control, and if something goes wrong, you scapegoat them and blame them. Just like these dumbass cops will get fired, but the training and department will train 2 exactly like them in 2 weeks.
When they say dont get smart, what they mean is dont use your intelligence and knowledge of the constitution and laws because they dont know or follow them and it makes them angry that you know their job better than them. One would think this is a problem, but those in charge dont care about your life or mine. Arm, educate, defend your rights, to the death if necessary.
Most cops walk around with a bruised ego. It doesn’t take much to make to trigger a hissy fit.
The correct response if a cop tells you "don't get smart" is "then don't be stupid."
@@deputyrock3489 i'm of the opinion that one should stand their ground without getting impolite. it's hard to fight a bogus charge with a bullet in the brain. some (not all, btw bootlickers) of these badge- holding thugs are loose cannons waiting for a reason to ruin your life.
Big talk. But very few (including you) will fight the cops and kill/die to avoid an unlawful detention/arrest.
A smarter approach is to know your rights, do not give them up, and if they are violated, go through the process to hopefully get paid by the department that wronged you.
It pisses me off to no end when BOTH officers try to talk OVER EACHOTHER while copsplaining to this citizen. Zero intelligence between the two of them, absolute utter trash.
"Copslaining"
Hah, I'm using that one, well done
The cop quite literally says that he’s only iding him because he “got smart” with him.
I am baffled that every police department in the country doesn’t do yearly trainings on what “obstruction” actually is and isn’t. This seems to be such a common issue that usually ends with the city having to pay a lot of money to lawsuits.
They do. They count on us not knowing b
you don’t seem to get it, officers know *exactly* what obstruction is, they just know that 90% of regular people don’t. for every one case of a city paying out in a lawsuit over police misconduct like this, there’s probably about a hundred more where they don’t and the officer gets their way sight unseen. they’re all criminals.
They're too stupid to learn anything more
I bet they do but don't make attendance obligatory, then all the stupid cops don't go to it thinking "I know what I'm doing."
Most give the correct training and the feeling of commonality is because every bad interaction is taped because it’s problematic. You don’t usually record a good police interaction and you probably wouldn’t spend your time chasing footage of a body cam for a cop who did nothing wrong.
Pressuring someone to confess to crimes you know they didn't commit should be a felony. A few years in prison at a minimum.
It is. Entrapment
Verbal Coercion and Entrapment
Crazy how the custody dispute still went unchecked and the cops were focused on two people standing outside instead.
Custody dispute is just people arguing. The people outside were annoying and then they DISOBEYED their masters!
Clearly, the greater threat.
Just rolling around looking to destroy any poor person's life.
Actually this was just another home invasion by two clowns masquerading as "law enforcement" broken up by two innocent knowledgeable citizens simply standing their ground on public property when faced with two mentally challenged TYRANTS who mistakenly thought they were "alpha males" when in actuality both were sub-beta instead...with no teaticles and very small penises...the dredded "small penis complex" when combined with "cop attitude" leaves you with two "$ex toys" being locked in a cell with a huge black homosexual with a 20 inch penis with their name tattooed on the head!...OUCH!!!...both are now accepting gifts of KY jelly and Preparation H...
@@bergmanoswell879 Masters? The cops? Yeo that's wild.
@@trapbois4573 more or less wild than inability to recognize the most obvious sarcasm imaginable?
Interesting perspective. Let's remember the importance of effective communication to avoid legal escalation.
Your not incriminating yourself you are just answering a question that is the funniest thing I’ve heard today
Lol, Yep...
“We’re trying to tell if you’re involved” aka if you answer you’re 50%/50% involved or not. So you either get removed from the “scene” or are now detained (for admitting being involved).
I love how its “illegal” to make a cops job harder. And of course, once a cop gets you in the back of the car, they are automatically correct in everything they say.
This is a training and education issue. They are trained to make money, not to stop murders and robberies.
a law enforcer that doesn't know nor understand the law has nothing to enforce, and that's the US cops in bulk.
I believe they are doing exactly what they've been trained to do: follow orders without question and make the plebs aware of who's in charge. This is a leadership issue more than anything else.
@@donovanchilton5817being cop is a step up from working at McDonalds
@@freshswagga100 Barbers need more education than a cop
Cops are in essance high way robbers. Nothing else.
The surprising thing that happens with every single one of these interactions is the sheer contempt these cops have for anyone exercising their rights. They *hate* you! Absolutely HATE you!
Their whole demeanour is brimming with spite.
They HATE not being treated as the "BOSS".
The amount of times cops will ask "so where did you go to law school?" Or tell you to not get smart with them just because you know your rights is ludicrous
America, please stop giving power and weapons to the simple minded and psychopaths. (I mean the cops, btw).
Sadly there are many commenters backing up these obvious violations as well.
Ill get smart with you tough guy.
Lol I thought the same thing ..I'll show u being smart
It's high time anyone wishing to become a police officer earn a Bachelors degree in such subjects as criminal justice, constitutional rights, and de-escalation techniques.
For real, if they can't pass college they don't need to be police.
Government doesn't want smart enforcers educated in law. You can't control them that way.
Me being a father doesn't make me a teacher or caretaker, same should apply to police
Good luck on most cops pass a college degree course, that is the reason most become police. Couldn't perform any other job.
@@philtorres2975 That's undoubtedly true in some cases, for sure. I believe it's become painfully obvious that a few months at the police academy is insufficient. If not a full Bachelors degree, more training and more effort to screen out these power-tripping testosterone-driven uneducated menaces is sorely needed!
I think one of the biggest issues in police training is that officers are trained to criminalize. They're not taught case law and how the case law applies in situations. They're taught to use laws to their advantage to criminalize and to "stay in control of situations" example is how this trooper used obstruction to arrest after ID refusal despite it not being lawful in this situation as well as it being a violation of the man's 4th amendment
Actually, they are taught about Case Law at the Academy. Whether they retain it or not is an entirely different story.
@DigBar are they taught how the case law applies to different situations cause we see videos everyday about them not knowing the laws/case laws that applies to a specific situation
Qualified immunity needs to go. Unlawful arrests should be punished severely.
We do have a 2nd amendment
Unlawful detainment as well. They literally detain for no reason all the time with impunity
Yo youtube this guys saying we should murder law enforcement
@@dougr8646 Who is saying that?
@@dougr8646 having a 2nd amendment means you should murder someone?
You're a little but crazy aren't you
I love your videos, you actually follow up with things
It takes 2 years of school to be a beautician and only 6 months to be a police officer
You are a genius! I can’t believe no one ever thought of this!
@@MadeIn619 deep that boot. You and your family will be dragged into the streets soon
I mean all they gotta do is shake down mee maws for lunch money and hide when a real bad guy spawns.
Sad isn't.
All u gotta do is point and shoot it ain't that hard, especially if there black
This one made my blood boil, especially when they went after the girl. Thank god that young guy knew his rights.
It never fails to amaze me how they can be so easily distracted from their initial investigation🇬🇸