Lol yah usually they want Id and will lie about the law and spend a hour crying till their c.o comes and say the person isn't legally required to give them it then they still try to act like they should get id
not long on the force and thus the id crack has not created an habitual narcotic like reaction. love watching the looks on cops faces when they are told no to getting their id's. especially when honor your oath does it. well observed and stated
Nah... I bet even if he asked for his ID and run his ID, he would eventually find out the 10+ years ago Trespassing record (like the supervisor did) and we will still see the same outcome.
I know! this was so stupid. everytime they ask for ID. and the only time they need to ID the person, they don't do it? like holy crap this is blood boiling
@@Mike.The.Jeweler Nope...trespass was only valid for 1 year (365 days) from time it was issued, so if you want to be technical, they were wrong...that's a long trespass warning, too...usually a CTW is only 30-90 days, and a CTN (which this one is) is typically a year or less, but way to attempt to run interference and defend the supervisor who doubled down on the arrest after already knowing that they had the wrong guy. That's gotta look great for you.
@David D absolutely not, he literally states in the video there is no listed length specified in the state for how long a trespass is good for. If it was only good for a year then the guy who they thought he was couldn't be trespassed either.
@@Mike.The.Jeweler in the video he states that if he had been shopping there regularly with no problems then he cannot be arrested for trespassing since he had been going there every time
@@kevinmacisaac4856 He didn't answer to the name. He simply turned around. Those are not the same things. If you are walking and someone yells a name behind you, even if it's not your name, your instinct is to turn around to visually see what is going on. That is not a confirmation of identity.
@@kevinmacisaac4856 All you have to do is think lol.. I can say anything but if YOU think I'm talking to YOU then you will turn around towards me.. I can say hello or what are you wearing or a random name.. you will answer to me in a public setting.
He should be forced to pay as much as he can towards it, including selling his home Hopefully his wife leaves him and takes the kids, and he spends the rest of his life on the streets, where he belongs.
He's not gonna get 10M. It's an insanely high figure for the outcome. ... Unless he wants to play the angle that they denied him medicine when he said he needs it. But there, too, the defailed facts of his alleged affliction would be a stumbling block.
Why is it there’s CONSTANTLY leeway given to officers making “good-faith” mistakes but not citizens who are expected to have expert knowledge of all laws, case law, etc. Why do courts hold officers to a LOWER standard than an average citizen? It’s disgusting.
Courts make no money for the state if an officer of the state makes a mistake. A citizen though, is nothing more than a piggy bank that if shaken violently and often enough yields results.
I suspect it is because we constantly send cops into tense situations, and so eventually mistakes will be made. If they faced similar consequences for these mistakes to your regular citizen then the risk of doing to the job would be too much for any rational person to accept.
What I've learned from this channel - if you get within 100ft of a cop at any time they'll ask you for ID, and arrest you if you refuse to provide it. But when investigating an offense that is entirely related to who you actually are, they don't ask for ID.
bhc If the Big Money says you are guilty the cops will always agree. If only the officer had done the usual police investigation by staring threateningly at the man and demanding ID this would all have been over in minutes.
Apparently turning around upon hearing someone yell out a random name equals a positive ID. This is one time the cops were legally able to ask for ID and failed to do so.
People tend to cut corners in their jobs once they become 'experts'. Cops tend to be action-oriented rather than natural thinkers or natural bureaucrats, so they tend to do this a lot more than is reasonable. That's why I am not surprised that this kind of thing happens. In fact, I was prepared to assume that this particular cop just made an honest mistake, learned from it, and it's not that big of a thing. _However_ -- when he drove his victim home, he apparently didn't remove the handcuffs. That's totally inappropriate and indicates to me that the cop likely deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
It can't be done lawfully but anything can and will be done . There's legal murder, legal theft, legal robbery, legal kidnapping, legal assault and the list goes on . Then there's illegal murder, illegal theft, illegal robbery. Illegal kidnapping and this list goes on . What determines the legality or illegality depends upon how much a person is willing to pay to be legal. Everything illegal is assessed by the amount of blood that can be squeezed from the poor and criminalized.
This is shocking. Absolutely astonishing. Not too long ago, a security guard at my local supermarket made a similar mistake - apparently I look quite similar to some other guy who had been banned from coming back there. It was so fkn easy. He approached me, challenged me, asked me my name. I showed him my bank cards, which all have my name embossed upon them and pointed to another member of staff who knew me, and could confirm I was who I said I was. He apologised for bothering me, and I went about my day. No absurd mistakes, no arrests, no lawsuits - just a funny story for me to tell the family when I got home. Everyone makes mistakes - that's just human - but to refuse to acknowledge and apologise for the mistake, instead insisting on doubling down, digging the stupid hole deeper and deeper, and actually getting an innocent person *_arrested_* instead of simply accepting you got it wrong . . . It's unbelievable.
The fact that they took him back to jail on a ten year old trespass AFTER realizing he was not the right man is horrible. We need to make that vindictive supervisor famous.
I 100% agree, I wish they had given up the name of the sargent that charged him after they knew the first cop fvcked up! Tony should definitely include him in the lawsuit.
The cops are usually very eager to ID someone (many times illegally) Now that ID was important to prove his innocence, they wanted no part of it. This may be the first time I didn’t hear a request for ID 🤦🏽♂️
he was identified. Another white man said he was trespassing so it must be true., I mean the guy was Asian! At least he wasn't black or it would've been worse.
@@mongoose6685 Who does not consider it a problem? Where are these people who don't mind when this happens to them? Even if you are homeless or you live in a not-"first world" country locked in guerilla warfare, injustice committed upon you is aggravating. So who and where is happy to be kicked out and banished from perhaps their only local store for absolutely no reason?
How on earth do you not properly identify a suspect before arrest? That means they could arrest anybody at any time and basically say Oops, wrong person and get away with it.
Cop's supervisor tried stupidly to CYA their mistake by charging him over that really old trespass that could easily be argued their repeated lack of enforcement has rendered null and void
Considering how many times I’ve seen officers not only ask, but demand ID, It’s unbelievable that this officer didn’t ask for any ID to confirm his identity at any point before the arrest.
@Sam Miller He admitted he did shoplift there something like 12-13 years ago, but the trespass warning was set for a year by the judge. Only way to be sure would be to check the record, could have been made longer or permanent for some reason.
EXACTLY.......Did I miss the part where the cop asked to confirm his identity, which his girlfriend would have confirmed? Yes, he had also been barred from Walmart, but to do the basic of basic checks instead of taking a mall cop's word would have resolved this sooner.
The odds that this dude actually got in trouble with this exact Walmart a decade ago and then gets misidentified for another dude who got trespassed is kinda crazy.
Well most of the time people refuse to show their IDs and the cop is accused of violating their rights so it’s a lose lose situation also the guy was trespassed so he was allowed me to be removed from the store anyways
@@salty9702 HE wasn't the person they accused him of being. The entire interaction was based on th assumption he was a specific person. Therefore ID should've been requested. That's common sense plain and simple. He hadn't done a single thing to warrant this type of treatment. Furthermore there should've been an investigation into whether or not THIS person's no trespasss was actually order by a judge for only a yr or not.they CAN research that you know. If the charges were dropped, that tells you something
@@jayo4282 the guy admited that he was trespassed at some point, 10 yeara ago I belive. So in sone way he incriminated himself even is he's not the other guy
The fact that they shouted a name as a way to identify him instead of asking him, is bs. If I heard someone yell Cody in the middle of a Walmart I'm gonna look too
I thought the same too. If someone hollered a name your gonna look at them then turn to see who's attention they are trying to get. That's naturally how we all act in a public place. This was so stupid
Exactly! I've been called other names on the street and I look back and tell them that's not me. It's obvious one is gonna look back when you feel someone is directing themselves to you
As a retired corrections officer the cop gets an F. There have been innocent ppl put in jail because the cop failed to do his job properly and some have died in jail as a result. No excuses.
@D Guerrero Google it. Ppl are being exonerated after decades in prison for crimes they didn't commit . It's not limited to one place, it across the country. Read.
Never talk to police. He should never have talked about a 10-year-old trespass. Probably no record of that anymore. That really hurts any lawsuit. She states: "I always supported police". Support the blue till it happens to you fits well. We all should consider a Boycott of Walmart for so many questionable actions
In the video it did state that while on the way to deliver the guy home that the supervisor of the officer requested to take him back because they had found out about the 10 year old trespass. So even though he had talked about it, they didn't say anything about it until he was already on his way home. At 14:40 in the video is where this part is talked about.
i've been boycotting since they fired me. why did they fire me? the official reason is that i wasn't working fast enough, despite the fact that the incident in question, i covered 2 lunches, handled the registers, and still managed to keep my department presentable. the unofficial reason? i left truck crew (2nd shift now), and they don't like people who do that. they spent 2 years looking for every possible reason to fire me. and they finally got tired of looking and made one. this was proven a week later, when the manager who fired me practically begged for me to reapply and come back. said he'd push through the interview and have me in later that week. told them they had to beat my new gig. at the time i had gone to private security, nearly doubled what i was making at walmart, and that i wanted a $5000 sign on bonus for bailing their butts out (my former department looked like multiple bombs had gone off. empty racks, clothes literally everywhere EXCEPT where they were supposed to be, etc.). a week after that, the other employees of that department retired (2 older gals), because they couldn't keep up with the sudden lack of a 3rd person and were tired of being screamed at for it. so within 2 weeks, that department had gone from barely managing with a skeleton crew of 3 to no crew at all, except the one manager who fired me who then had to stock shelves, handle the fitting room, handle the phone, help customers, all in addition to his usual manager duties. not to mention that they also lost 3 cashiers, as we had all been cashier trained. last i heard, he ended up in the hospital with severe abdominal pain and hasn't returned since. this was 6-7 years or so ago.
I was stopped by one once. They really do look that shlubby. I get they're trying to blend in but it's extra insulting being inconvenienced by a neck beard in stained gym shorts.
@kaimojepaslt Yes it is... and it should come from the Police retirement fund. Taxpayers should stop having to pay for Police breaking the very Laws they are supposed to enforce.
@@bluefalconssuck5881it should come from what ever cop made the mistakes pay, at least a percent, like a monthly wage. Taking from the entire pot because a few bad apples is a socialist move and this is America.
You know, Tony seems like the type of guy who would have accepted the cop's apology and probably let it go once the cop drove him back. I firmly believe that by re-arresting and charging him, that sarge brought on the lawsuit he was trying to avoid
The Sgt wasn't attempting to avoid a lawsuit, he was simply trying to C.Y.A for the only cop in America who doesn't fiend for I.D... It's why he requested Tony's picture, I.D.,and began investigation into his background after he was un-arrested.. They wanted the arrest to be legitimate while the Rookie seems to be an order follower who was willing to let Tony go but re-arrested an innocent man because he was told to.. Tony is gold as long as he has Court documents proving his trespass would be rescinded after a year, and I find it very hard to believe the current SCOTUS would stand by allowing cops to arrest Citizens for "mistaken" identity, otherwise cops could simply pretend they thought any Citizen had a warrant or was trespassed from any private property and arrest them in an attempt to find other charges to bury them with.. Cops would be able to lie even more than they already do, place any Citizen under arrest simply because the cop doesn't like them and all the cop has to say is "mistaken identity" and the charges stick? I don't believe the Constitution would agree..
Why would a lawsuit be legit? He was trespassed for shoplifting. And has zero record that it was for one year. He just a thief trying to get paid for doing nothing.
@Nate IsWatching just because he was a thief in his past doesn't give anyone an excuse to violate his rights. Rethink your position and come back when youre not as stupid
The fact that they didn't ID him when they normally do and that's become a problem in itself (overly IDing people and arresting them when not giving it) and then SHE got tresspassed over a mistaken identity and the double down on it. This whole thing is so messed up and disgusting.
I agree, the cops are usually very eager to obtain ID but now that an ID would set someone free, they wanted no part of it. The arresting officer apologized for making a mistake and offered to drive him home. The department’s ego got in the way and instead of admitting they were wrong, they doubled down on a BS technically
Think about it. A multinational huge brand is allowing some little piggy to dictate who can shop there. Before someone is banned from shopping at one of the largest retailers on the world, should at least a manager be called in? I know all these companies have a database of people they ban. But what happened here is that the cop relied on the little piggy instead of doing his job. The reason the police have the authority to physically take someone is because they have the responsibility to do their job correctly. But he did not. He relied on little piggy. And what are the repercussions for little piggy? He should at least lose his job. And when people do the "Walmartian" videos and make fun of people, shouldn't Walmart have at least some sort of dress code for it's employees? If little piggy told me he was the "security" or any part of management I'd laugh in his face. And the cop should have to have some sort of due diligence before just blindly accepting the word of someone like that.
You know what really happened don't you? Racist AI. They were so confident that was the person they thought it was. Guess AI isn't that good at doing it's job after all. Guess to an AI all Asian people look the same (tbh) they really do tho. Gotta try extra hard to Id an Asian
If someone yells out a name loudly, I'm going to turn around and look at the person even if they didn't call out my name. While McNeely acted calm and even-tempered, the fact that he didn't ask for identification when first confronting Nguyen is absurd.
Go walk the streets of your local big city. That'll teach you to not "answer" to callouts that don't include your name. Homeless people asking for money, random gangster shaking down a shopkeeper..... dont look, don't acknowledge, keep your face in your phone while side-eyeing around you so you can keep aware without directly engaging. "HEY YOU" or whatever other vague call-out, is almost NEVER something you should turn around for. If you're somewhere where you aren't surrounded by people you know, and you don't expect to come across someone you know, you probably don't know them, and so they're probably not talking to you, and so don't react or respond. Especially at a distance. If they really want to engage you, they will approach, and if they're aggressive.... self-defense and 2A are your friends. Unless you think being alive, but wrongfully sued is worse than being dead. Iunno, people weird these days.
@randomusername I have enough street smarts to the point where that's just plain common sense. "I don't carry change" and "I didn't see shxt". It's all fairly avoidable without the paranoia, I look because I'm cautious and alert.
He's young. He placed too much confidence in the Walmart employee's word. This is an expensive lesson, but you can bet that now he'll ask for the name of the doctor who delivered you.🤔🤨🤨
The fact that the officer would never address again the "suspect" by his alleged name during the whole interaction with him, so he never gets a chance to say "wait, that's not my name", is mind-blowing.
@@adriansrealm I mean, had the officer been more polite and spoken to the arrested using a simple "Mr. Vondelinde" the whole thing would've been sorted out in less than a minute. But for that the officer should first know he must respect memebers of the public, even if they may be committing an offence.
The most screwed up part of this whole ordeal was when they released him and then booked him again when they found the old trespass. The very minute they realized they had the wrong guy they should have apologized and took him home. That's like if police raided the wrong house but in the process find weed and throw you in jail anyways. It's ridiculous and the man never should have been arrested in the first place. But since they went ahead and put him in jail anyways, they turned this from an honest mistake into an unconstitutional encounter. So the supervisor who decided to charge him the second time is who rightfully deserves and F.
Not using his name during the entire prolonged encounter HAD to be deliberate, covering up the bad arrest. I also don't believe his story that he called out Cody's name and the man NOT named Cody responded. Sure he did. I also don't believe the girlfriend did not use her boyfriend's name even once throughout this encounter. He just ignored everything he heard about reality because he was hell-bent on arresting this kid.
@@skillethead15 so arresting someone who is trespassing is unconstitutional? There is no lawsuit. This guy was lucky charges were dropped but now he’s just ludicrous with the lawsuit. While the cop was arresting him, he kept repeating that he did in fact have a trespassing order against him.
I hope he wins something meaningful from Walmart in the case. The fact that the police just listen to a random employee without verifying the information is criminal.
This is why people should boycott Walmart. That supervisor should be fired, he is also racist and didnot care if he got it wrong. He also sounds like a coward as he was not sure if he had the right guy as he was afraid to make eye contact. Due to his racism and incompetence both these innocent people got trespassed. Walmart had a history of chauvinism, racism, sexism and classism. They care so little for staff that they would rather replace all people possible with technology. Boycotting Walmart is the best Justice.
@@sitdowndustythis. They'll give him like $200k to settle. Lawyer will take half of it. Taxes will take half of what's left. He'll get $50k cash, and call it a day. They MIGHT un-trespass him and his gf if they are feeling generous.
You're dead wrong on that rating! That cop should have gotten a D- or an F for flat out arresting him and not even checking Mr. Nguyen's ID! Any cop who did an actual unbiased investigation would have found out he wasn't who that clown was accusing him of being, and then the cop didn't have to let them trespass his wife! I'm glad Mr. Nguyen is coming after all of them in that lawsuit and I hope to God he wins it all!
What showing na ID would change when that guy was still trespassing? He would still end up in jail, like he did in the end. If the guy who looks like someone fitting the profile on the encounter would admit he had trespassing warning 10 years ago (that's why there was no fight over false accusation between cop and arrested otherwise everything would clear up in seconds), that would set off track lot of people, it is a case of such a bad coincidence that wrong person has been arrested, but for valid reasons.
@sanjyuu2298 typical troll missing the point! In Florida being trespassed lasts for a year unless being deemed indefinite. What you said about not being identified properly is by far the most ignorant excuse I've heard! That is standard police procedure. He was shopping there again one year after being trespassed with no issues. The police arrested him with prejudice and because the wife objected and started videoing she gets trespassed too!? What's your cap for that?
@@RPaulo8k It's in human nature to make mistakes, i only told you how he could make erroneous assumptions becuase of bad coincidences. I don't know Florida law, so i admit my assumptions could be wrong, but if he was put in jail anyway after it was confirmed he was blacklisted by supervisor, i could only assume that trespassing warning was still valid, but it was not mentioned or i missed it. I have no idea where his wife being charged with tresspassing came from, only husband was arrested(?). At lest this cop wasn't acting like "get to the ground" shouted 100000 times per second with a taser ready to shoot you into face without a warning and after being handcuffed too. One of the calmest encounters i saw on this channel.
@sanjyuu2298 cops aren't allowed to make mistakes like this. They're supposed to be impartial until credibility is established which it wasn't in this case. That cop was too quick to arrest Mr Nguyen and if that employee was certain about Mr Nguyen, he wouldn't be trying to cover up his face. That supervisor could have looked at the date of the trespass and if it was more than a year old, he shouldn't have been taken back to jail under the state's statutes, but that's how the prison system works. It's all about money, and I hope they pay every cent of it to Mr Nguyen! You should watch more videos on here because there are cops that are professional and make proper arrests, but the commenter rated wrong on this one.
Don't you love it when they wrongfully arrest someone, and then do their damnedest to find anything that could possibly be used to turn it into a legal arrest? Guilty until proven innocent
As shallow as it sounds, its a two way street. Cases like these are about Finding any way to prove the defendant is guilty, or any way that their innocent. The ideal case has to go over every claim with severe scrutiny, to let justice be served.
The supervisor should be investigated for this. The arresting officer did the right thing when he discovered his mistake and was driving him home with an apology... The supervisor was the one who decided to double down on the mistake, rather than admit mistakes happen.
Yes! The Adversarial system of Law sucks! Inquisitorial system with part of the Court investigating with a Impartial Arbiters is so much more exact in finding facts, but costs more and of course takes the power away from the Judge and Police.
He looks like a rookie. Sadly for him he made a huge mistake that in other situation might not have been huge at all. He did not seem to have bad intention, just tried doing the thing and getting over with it. A what appeared to be an easy trespass case.
Cops' attitude is if you have been accused by Joe Public, you are guilty. Cop acted on the Wal-Mart employee's directions alone. If he had taken the time to check, he may not made a mistake.
Not really the mistake was at Walmart for calling in on the wrong shoplifter that got booted from the store is all. They were able to confirm the guys identity. His supervisor for some reason figured out the guy was also booted from that Walmart for shoplifting. maybe he has a lot of priors for shoplifting and he had a hunch.
@@ronpetersen2317incorrect. If you paid attention to the video you’d know that he was trespassed for ONE year in 2013. It’s 2023, he was no longer trespassed.
Others have already said this but it’s truly crazy how the one time asking for an ID could’ve prevented this situation, the officer does not ask for it and immediately goes in for the arrest.
@@yunofun Situations like this is why we have the right to remain silent. This man literally incriminated himself. Had he just remained silent and then gave them his ID when they forced it from him since he was arrested, none of this would have happened. I can see how he actually thought he was being arrested for his old trespass but you have to fight the urge to defend yourself. Especially if you think you are guilty because it cannot help you in anyway. DO NOT EVER TALK TO THE POLICE PEOPLE!
@@deusvult6920 He also said it was years ago which is not in line with the information the officer had. The admission gives the officer a reason to investigate and still trespass him if the old order was still in effect. Still ridiculous to not confirm the guys ID.
The supervisor gets an F. Instead of allowing the corrective actions of the mistake of his officer made, he doubled down and found a reason to [re]arrest this gentleman as an attempt to appear as if the original arrest was justified.
@ReauDog, EXACTLY! The initial arrest was unfortunate but this tendency to double down just to save face is absolutely disgusting! Its no longer being done in the interest of the public.This lawsuit suggests this "doubling down" is the extreme opposite since the public are the ones footing the bill if the court sides with the plaintiff.
The supervisor did that as defensive tactic to manufacture a fake argument that the arrest was valid. He was trying to protect the department form a lawsuit by trying to railroad Tony with fake, BS arguments. That press-release was his second desperate and pathetic attempt after Tony's charges were dropped.
Pretty disturbing how an underpaid employee can so casually turn someone's life upside-down just by calling the police whom, in turn, make the situation worse with their negligence.
On the other hand, he admitted to being trespassed 10 yrs ago. I’m not saying the cop shouldn’t have confirmed his ID, but the manager said this guy is trespassing and when approached about trespassing the guy says “Yeah, but that was 10yrs ago”… at that point what the manager is saying and the suspect is saying matches up…
@@hgroce15 you still need to ID the person fam how do you proceed with anything without confirming the ID. U cant just grab a random person from the store u get pointed to and start arresting them cause they got pointed at.
So let me get this straight, this cop's oversight caused him to arrest an innocent person, and, sure, he apologized after realizing he was wrong but then arrested him again to try and cover it up, resulting in a million dollar lawsuit. B- seems crazy high to me
the narrator is a pig shill, he cites obscure pro cop laws and precedents all the time instead of acting like a normal person and using his platform to point out how ridiculous and oppressive this state of affairs is, instead he volunteers his own opinions and predictions of the legality of obviously questionable bullshit the cops pull all the time, 90% of the time it's followed by "the prosecution dropped all charges and x filed a lawsuit" but this pig friendly narrator keeps hinting at whatever these tyrannical fuckers do being totally above board, but God forgive you raise your voice after being physically abused and kidnapped by these thugs
he arrested the wrong person not necessarily an innocent person. the person he arrested was trespassed before so the arrest is legal and ok, just not the person the walmart caller identified
@@alexanderzack3720you're kidding right? His trespass was from a DECADE ago and he has been shopping there since without issue. If you don't see an issue with this, then you are part of the problem. This police department is corrupt 100%. The way that Sgt handled this situation is scary. They've definitely done this to people before.
@@LeoLeeGaming i see plenty problem with that. but that´s the thing with law, it has no morality. from a moral standpoint what the officer did is wrong, but it was legal as explained in the video. and even if i´m wrong i´m not part of the problem: i don´t live in the usa
The hilarity of him apologizing and trying to drive the victim home, then bowing to his supervisor who was trying to cover it up and re-arresting him is hilarious.
The funniest part to me is that the best way to cover something like this up is usually to make a sincere apology and move on, not to double down on the retardation. I'm not sure why police supervisors think this is a good way to operate. Mr. Nguyen likely would have never sued had he been brought home with a sincere apology from the officer and a written apology from the dept. The best way to avoid pissing people off is to make them whole or to at least make them feel as though you've made them whole when you fuck up and cause them problems.
I doubt that the police officer's stop to take a picture of the "suspect" of a SUSPENDED ARREST while driving him back to the original point of arrest was even legal under state law, let alone under federal law. The taking of his ID while he was simply being driven back to his intervention point and, at rhe time, him not being detained or under arrest is a direct viiolation of the 4th amendment. UGH.
To be fair, once they properly IDed him, they did find out he HAD been trespassed. 10 years earlier. My only question is where the 'for only one year' came from and whether or not it's valid. If so, it should have been recorded and he still has ALL the grounds to sue. If not, I kinda think he got caught doing exactly what they accused him of, just not the person they thought they caught.
@@anthonyantoine9232 Yep. It's usually the cover up that gets you in real trouble. If I was a juror, that would add at least a zero to what I'd be willing to award.
@@colinsmith1495 It would be amusing to observe & listen to two lawyers (plaintiff and complainaint) arguing before a federal civil rights jury about the legality of a"stop and ID intervention" by the police over a 10+ yr old tresspass "warning" isssued against a current known / proven long term customer of that same store. Hmmm......
To be fair at least the cop wasn't an arrogant dick like most seem to be. He should have investigated but at least he didn't get all hung up on himself and spoke in a calm relaxed manner.
I can't see how it they would win. Walmart did identify wrong person, but that's pretty much it. And in context, while petty af, trespassing the girl seems to be within their rights.
They should be able to because of malicious discrimination and profiling. The guy who called the cops identified him positively as a different person. And then retaliated on his wife.
He apologizes and starts driving him home, only to turn around halfway? They are obviously disorganized. I imagine his boss is part of the problem. His boss either shows up late and changes the subordinates direction after he's been enabled to take some action himself. Or the boss made the wrong decision without due dilligence himself, and needed to correct himself at a later time. The cop is driving around in circles because he doesn't know what to do. They need some help communicating with each other.
Could be an honest mistake. And I wouldn't blame him for being overruled by his superior later. What has no innocent explanation is driving him home _in handcuffs_ .
@Neutral Commenter initial confusion with the info at hand makes sense but once he had opportunity to investigate (very easy only had to id) he should have. This cop failed to perform a basic job duty leading to an illegal arrest.
He arrested him because he looked when he called out a name . That’s just human nature , when someone screams out a name , everyone turns around to see what’s going on . Even if it wasn’t their name .
What a tool this officer is. I can see him rushing into the guy and assuming he got a positive identification because he, naturally, looked back after feeling someone was about to jump on him.
No dude. He arrested him being the manager of the store pointed him out as someone who was trespassing, combined with the fact that he turned around when he said his name, combined with the fact that he also just so happened to mention that he had been trespassed from that exact store in the past. Yes he should have verified his identity, but don't act like it wasn't several compounding coincidences that led to this. Isn't it also ironic that this man did indeed trespass after all, after having shoplifted from that exact store. He wouldn't have been charged if his claim that "the court told me it was only for a year" was actually correct.
I can tell you this. Wal-Mart employee Pettigrew is going to get fired. I used to manage a Target and if an employee (especially Asset Protection) gets someone arrested or thrown out, and it turns out they didn’t do anything wrong, they are 100% going to be fired. The PR fiasco alone is going to cost this specific Wal-Mart sales and when sales are impacted, people get the boot. Whoever the manager on duty was at that time could get the boot too if not more people. That store will be getting a lot of visits from higher up coming soon. Pettigrew won’t be able to get another decent job like that because saying you got fired from Asset Protection at Wal-Mart means you did something like this on the job or you are terrible at your job. It’s the easiest position at a retail store. Hopefully his butt has to pay some of the lawsuit punitive damages and if it’s substantial enough, he’ll be filing for bankruptcy. He’s an idiot for possibly screwing his life up over mis identifying someone. We all saw how far he was away from Mr. Nguyen, and he thought yelling someone’s name out loud was good enough. I bet half the people shopping in that area turned around. Damn fool! Wal-Mart, douchebag, and the police deserve everything they get from here on out!!!
This is true. I used to work at walmart and if an employee cost the store a lot of money or damage. You're gone the next day or before the end of the week.
The supervisors literally prime example of why people hate cops... confirms a trespass notice was issued 10 years ago for the person they arrested via mistaken identity, and then proceeds to try to follow up with charges clearly just to save face rather then just let the man be and send him on his way with the apology.
@@TrustMelDontCare You have illegal charges placed on you you have to fight them, have you ever dealt with a DA or judge? They're just as bad as the police, just as ignorant of the law and the oath they swore. Doubling down works 99% of the time because people don't have unlimited resources to battle the United States Government. When you deal with corrupt police, corrupt DA's, corrupt judges, are you going to have faith in the system that you'd shell out thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer and take a crap shoot?
Walmart was not responsible for him getting arrested and going to jail. The officer made that call. Obviously the officer did not bother doing any kind of reasonable investigation (hint: checking the ID).
Walmart managers make a lot of stupid decisions. Its not Walmart as a whole. But if this incident makes it more certain you’ll be going to local shops more instead and of mega super stores, then more power to ya!
They trespassed his lady as well for no reason. That’s why people may not want to go there. Walmart security falsely detained and called cops on someone for cashing a check from their job WTH.
How you giving the police a B-? No investigating, no jack, just rolls up and arrests someone for nothing, or because random Walmart guy says to. Your videos are alway excellent, just the first time I've ever thought your grade was trash 😂
I originally thought 10 million was a little bit too much but then again it is Wal-Mart. Until, I heard the part where they discovered they had the wrong guy and drove him home only to arrest him again! That is one hell of an emotional roller-coaster.
Wally World will quietly settle out of court for an "undisclosed sum" to make this indiscretion by one of it's employees "go away." What I can guarantee is the employee who mistakenly got the innocent person arrested is no longer employed.
@@charlesmills6621 The mistake was only over the initial mistaken identity. After the identity was established, he was still lawfully arrested. There was no mistake on that and that’s why he’ll be getting nothing or a “go away” settlement that won’t be much after attorney’s fees.
Yeah, I was upset by that comment as well. I'd rather a guy acting like a dick who knows the law and does the right thing than the guy who's super nice and "respectful" while ignoring my rights up one side and down the other. Ideally, cops could do both at the same time, but erring on the side of crude and competent is always the better choice if we have to make one.
Dude said B-. Tf is wrong with bro?😂😂. The officer messed up bad. Falsely arrested the man. Didn't ask for ID. Didn't listen to anything they said. Was also acting shady in the car & didn't wanna let him go but he didnt show that part. These ratings been off lately. Respectability politics is a mf.
While the sergeant was shady af and he failed to do a thorough investigation the dude admited to the crime he was being accused of even though he was under the impression he was allowed back on property by the judge who would not actually have the authority to reinstate his invitation. The officer saw the error and tried to make it right. The outcome would been same if he ID him but the cover up attempt was jack.
@@ignauciowitherspoon1618 the owner of the Walmart told the officer said the victim *WAS* the man who trespassed, and he was responding to trespassing call, so him assuming he was the guy isn't that crazy, also the victim who was being arrested said it was something he did a long time ago (1:30) and that of course at that point the cop was sure he had the guy. he should still have asked for ID but well in this circumstance it is kinda understandable
@@TheNatedawg989 Multiple sources suggest it's Wal-Mart policy to only trespass people for a year. None of them are good sources (that I found), but if the Wal-Mart manager at the time said it was a 1 year trespass, then it was. You and I don't know, but neither did the cop. If the guy said he was only trespassed for a year, ten years prior, the cop should have done due diligence and figured it out.
The longer they held him without checking his Id the more unreasonable the arrest became. The supervisor then looking to see if there was anything else they could arrest him for was a CYA action and creates discredit for the department.
For real. Even the victim got too high of a grade of an A+ considering he didn't keep silent and self incriminated by admitting to a previous trespass. Didn't even ask the cop who he was looking for, after responding to the name of the actual suspect.
Absolutely disgusting! It's shameful that the police motto is Protect and Serve. I hope their POST certification is permanently revoked. They are human trash. Shame on the employee that called the police instead of helping this gentleman.
Yes and it’s fitting Walmart get sued for $10 million because of their horrible treatment of their employees by not giving them insurance by making them all part time. Hopefully the tyrant cop gets fired or demoted. The Walmart loss prevention was profiling this Asian man who obviously not the right person who was issued a trespass warning.
@@weduhpeople8504 but didn’t the employee said he wasn’t sure because he couldn’t have a good look? If so what’s wrong with your legs to get closer to him and look better.
He will win 100%. Walmart won’t even waste time going to court because it’s a losing battle. The fat diabetic Walmart LP is guaranteed fired by now. He violate every Loss Prevention elements possible. How do I know this? I used to do his job for years.
Them deciding to charge him anyways even after discovering their mistake is the worst case of them trying to cover their tracks I think I've ever seen. They clearly wanted to not look incompetent and probably just walked themselves into a giving up a larger settlement.
Not quite. As mentioned in the video, Tony actually HAD been trespassed from Walmart prior to this incident. The first issue was that the cops didn't verify who he was initially, thinking that he was someone else still under a trespass order that was permanent. The second issue is that if that previous trespass was only for 1 year, then the cops screwed this up too. If Tony knows that it was only for a year and especially if he can prove it had already expired, he has an even better case to argue and the (ultimately probable) settlement number goes up.
are you hard of hearing? or maybe struggled with learning in a school environment? were you able to follow the information given to you in this video correctly? 🤣
@MajorMassSpec But once they realized he wasn't who Walmart security guard thought he was, the police never went back to Walmart to verify that they wanted HIM trespassed. Instead, they used the previous criminal charge to justify their actions. As discussed on AtA, that doesn't necessarily preclude him from being able to shop there, and the lack of follow-up constitutes gross negligence on the part of the police.
@luna I don't understand what's so difficult for you about this scenario. Once they realized they had the wrong guy, they never went back to Walmart to verify they wanted HIM trespassed. Rather than follow up, they just used his decade-old charge to make up an excuse and try and save face. Had they gone back to Walmart and gotten verification, and Walmart agreed, I'd be more sympathetic with the police. But that wasn't the case. And that lack of follow-up leads to a larger settlement.
They ask for ID when they think it’ll get you in trouble. They don’t ask for ID when they think it’ll get you in trouble. It’s an excuse to find “suspicion” so they can at least detain you.
I hope he wins, it's definitely racial profiling, also the fact the girlfriend gets a trespassing notice for just being next to her boyfriend is extremely disappointing. Also such notices should expire. Otherwise that's the equivalent of a never expiring restraining order with no way of legally overturning it!
The officer should get an F for this. Doing nothing to establish the identity of somebody before arresting them is a huge and fundamental abuse of power. It's so basic in terms of law and order and individual rights.
It's not their job to know the law, that's what a lawyer's job is for. An officer's job is to enforce the law and service the public. What he probably meant is that they aren't supposed to know every single letter on every single law, just enough to be able to do their job and do valid arrests. Prosecutors, lawyers and judges job is to know and interpret the law.
@@checkyourfax if I get arrested because of ignorance of the law is no excuse bulshit, then why the hell is in the cop not responsible to know the laws that he supposedly enforcing!? That doesn't make a lick of sense
Back in the day, Walmart’s biggest civil liability was sexual harassment by their managers. Now, a majority of the lawsuits against them comes from their security and their so called “greeters.” They did away with their greeters for sometime because of the lawsuits. As Walter says, “Welcome to Walmart, get your shit and get out.”
Yeah walmarts these days feel more like prisons than stores. I know they are having lots of problems that aren't quite their fault, but I'm not so sure they don't deserve to suffer.
He still arrested him to hide his screw up. Im sick of this. He trespassed the woman also and she was totally innocent. I blame the cop and security. I also blame Wal-Mart.
Quota AKA performance review just like in the war days Vietnam Leos Cambodia Korea body count is what counts whether it be children women old men as long as it's the indigenous population for the war Bounty
The first part of the video was missing. We didn't get a complete recap from all sides. Just from the Victim. I belive it went by like this: The cop yelled. The suspect reacted by turning. The cop assumed his name was Cody , then asked if he knew he was trespassed from the building. The suspect said yes. And the cop put him under arrest. It is YOUR RIGHT to remain silent and invoke the 5th amendment. And if you are asked if you've been trespassed from there you should remain silent. Because it is the cop's duty to prove that you've committed any crime. But they CAN arrest you if you confess.
*This the only time a cop never asked for ID.* Excellent job by the Deputy to confirm identification, and said trespass order. *You 100% illegally arrested a man.* "You are under arrest for trespassing, Cody." *"I'm not Cody."* "Cody, you are under arrest for trespassing." *"I'm not Cody."* "HOLY SHIT! HE'S NOT CODY!!"
Actually he took the name of the girl that was being trespassed for walmarts records which in most cases they say they must have their names of the trespassed person (many videos of LEO's trying to get names of person for walmart during a trespass warning.
@@Jamesfrancosdog Not an illegal arrest? He arrested the wrong dude entirely. Imagine if you go home today and the cops arrest you instead of your neighbor, Jeff, that they are looking for. Never check your ID, just haul your ass off to jail. They want Jeff, you are Shawn. They arrest you because they think you are Jeff. They don't check your ID in your wallet. You go to jail. You have to pay $300 to get out of jail. Problem? Or is that a legal arrest? Even though Jeff is who they want. You are locked up solely because they didn't check your identity.
@@Jamesfrancosdog It is an illegal arrest if it comes about through gross negligence, basically violating very basic police conduct principles. He failed to investigate but made himself a mere armed mook of a Wal Mart employee. This is why SWATing can work.
The cop violated the girlfriends 4th amendment by getting her ID for a trespass warning! After Walmart accepted Mr. as a rewards member, they revoked the trespass.
Thank you for bringing this to a larger community. It kills me what happened to him, heard about it when he first posted it. As a FL resident, it is very disheartening.
I felt the same at first, but note, he WAS actually trespassing and had been trespassed the year before. So though the wrong guy, he was guilty of the same thing and far more recently.
he had not been trespassed the year before that was the person who his identity was mistaken for. His trespass was from 10 years ago and his arguement was that the court had termed the trespass to 1 year.
@@Running-withscissors You are a little bit thick, aren't you? When they say "he" was trespassed the year before they clearly meant the actual person that was trespassed, not the man arrested because of the wrong identification.
@@georgezee5173 Yup, more than a bit thick. I had to rewatch it and you and @Solvency are right. My mistake guys and why I was confused by some comments. ;)
White male 30-year Texas police officer here I disagree with one thing about the Walmart incident Walmart is a public accommodation they can't trespass the woman without reasonable cause Just like the Court ruled that the cake baker was a public accommodation because he was open to sales to the public so is Walmart they can't refuse you to be there without you violating the law
They cannot trespass her for being a member of a protected class. Under federal law this means for her race, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, religion, disability, genetic information, HIV status, age, pregnancy, military status, or previous condition of servitude. Individual state laws may protect other classes in addition to those that are federally protected. They can trespass her for even trivial reasons or no reason at all, but not for being a member of a protected class. If you are referring to the Colorado Baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, the baker refused to make the cake because they were gay, a protected class. The baker could have legally refused to make them a cake because he didn't like people who smiled too much, or were left-handed, but not because of their sexual orientation.
No way, that's the walmart I worked at. It doesn't surprise that this store dropped the ball here. The store manager got walked out in cuffs for embezzlement.
Random and not relating to anything other than embezzlement but. Has anyone been to or had a store called Alco in your town or city? I am from a small rural town and this company opened a store there and it struck me as odd that a large general store would come to my little ass town. Turns out the whole company went down as a front for embezzling money. Makes you wonder how many people are playing the system lol
What I never understand is why we as the tax payer are not more outraged by stories like this. The supervisor decided he needed to double down after they already messed up. He knew that years old trespass would probably not work and the fact his officer messed up with ID the first time around was going to look bad. So instead of being like cut him loose and let’s take a hit for the small mistake, their first thought is well let’s make it worse.
Indeed. It was BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that the supervisor illegally ran him as a DEFENSIVE tacit to try to dig something up to FABRICATE an argument that his arrest was valid. That's why they posted that feckless and laughably absurd press-release. Uh huh, and what if that old, expired ban didn't exist, then how would they try to spin that they arrested him because the white manager thinks east-Asians look the same and the cop didn't do his job? 🤨
Because not every tax payer is watching mainstream media and doesn't have the wrong impression, that every single police interaction results in police misconduct. Also, police is already heavily defunded, so only incompetent rookies like this one are willing to work.
I'm surprised a walmarg in 2010 was still there. Most walmarts here are in bigger locations. Mind you this is back when no self checkout was out yet and they had the smiley face for rollback prices lol 😆
In Las Vegas, there is a consistent rumor "trespass warnings last a year". FALSE. Just like in Florida, they last however long the casino says they last. They may tell you "don't come back for 30 days" or "don't ever come back". If you get the latter, you are subject to detention and arrest even if you show up 30 years later (yes, they keep records that long--I visited a casino I hadn't been in for literally 30 years, asked for a player's card, and was told "you already have one", despite the place having been sold at least twice in between). But what is sometimes true, just like here, it's likely going to be really hard to find a prosecutor who wants to use his time and the court's time to prosecute someone who 10 years later walks in and quietly eats dinner at a casino restaurant. That doesn't mean you won't get arrested, but it does typically mean you won't be convicted. Still adds an arrest to your record, and ruins your day, and likely costs you a few hours of lawyer time, at least. So it ain't nothing. So the police taking someone in for trespassing on a 10-year-old incident? Actually it makes legal sense. Walmart screwed up, and the cop screwed up, but they failed successfully. "You didn't mean to catch me breaking the law--you were trying to catch that other guy" is not a cogent legal defense. I don't imagine the victim is going to get very far with his lawsuit. He may get a nuisance settlement out of it, but technically, and legally, it was a legitimate arrest. That the prosecutor tossed it doesn't make it not so.
@@rootchiller yeah. But you got video of yourself acting normal, you could use it to sue in a court. Better than both of them going to jail and getting the phone taken away.
@@DingDong-gn7hj As long as your calm it helps but lets be honest a sizable chunk of humanity faced with that would explode. but no matter how small the crime he was trespassed before, if he kept the paperwork showing only a year then good but if not technically he was naughty.
@@pianopiano3037 Definitely not an F. An F would've had multiple police show up, tackle him to the ground, maybe threaten his partner with obstructing police just for being there filming and then maybe do an illegal search of their vehicle because they "smelt something".
They are private entities. They do not need to give you a reason. Its BS but this is America. You can block anyone's phone number on your phone without giving a reason.
Racially profiled, wrongfully arrested, and not even ID'd !! Holy shit both the walmart pig and the arresting pig messed up big time! I hope they win millions!
This goes to show that the cops are ALLWAYS going to make sure they can find ANYTHING to charge you with, even if the reason they first stopped you was unlawful.
seems like the deputy was doing proper by trying to undo the fuck up and bring him home, but the supervisor was covering their asses in anyway possible.
Man had all the id he needed he shouted Cody and Cody look at him he told him about his trespass offence and and Cody confirmed he did have one before that in itself was reasonable by any standard.
@@swagy6012 You do know the law usually looks at what the average reasonable person would do?. This man didn't even contest that he wasn't Cody and was in fact Tony which made it not necessary to check for a name they already had since all they needed to do was check for the offence if he was Coby/Kobe maybe i could excuse him not recognizing that he was being called by another name neither him or his girlfriend said anything about that name but they recorded which was funny and i can almost bet you cause we see it all too regularly in full length videos they called that name in front of him while checking and talking and he said nothing.
@@princeking1562I mean cody and tony a pretty close especially in a store with a bunch of noise… idk why your so getting such a hard on for the cop and walmart security, they saw an asian assumed he was a different asian and instead of getting an id card you know like any reasonable person might do just said “yep thats the asian we were looking for”. Stop knob slobbering these idiots they failed at almost every point in this whole situation full stop.
Why didn't the cop ask for ID or even explain the situation? Questions in order: this is a spotcheck, name and ID sir?, do you know your banned from this store? Your being asked to leave by the store, will you comply? Probably would have cleared up the mistake in identity and no one needed to be arrested. Lastly the cops treatment of the girlfriend was criminal. Her crime, standing next to her boyfriend, it seems. Also trying to detain her in an office as an excuse to stop her filming? Why wasn't this done outside in the car park? They were outside while he was putting the boyfriend in the cop car before bringing her back inside? Why not take her details and both drive to the police station?
Giving this officer a B when all he had to do was check an ID card before arresting this man is a stretch. This could have all been over before handcuffs were even placed on the man. Edit: then arresting him again to cover up his original mistake was the biggest pile of dog dung I’ve ever heard of.
Yeah, I get the cop did a lot of little things right and was respectful. But you can't get that high a grade when you failed the basic assignment. Walk up to man, before putting handcuffs, "mr. Nuegen I'm here cause you're in violation of trespassing." Oh that's not me. Check id. Ah sorry looks like it was a mistake. Have a nice day.
I can't stand it that the supreme court allows cops to violate somebody's constitutional rights under the color of law calling it a "simple mistake" when that same simple mistake grace is not extended to any other citizen!
"Mistakes will be made in the performance of law enforcement duties. We take this very seriously. We have an ongoing internal investigation. And when that mistake happens to you, you can just PISS OFF". -Every Police Chief Ever
Wait until you see the judgements coming from this present SCOTUS packed with conservatives who've ideologically sided with authoritarianism against the rights of the average citizen.
I mean he did everything right, and treated them with respect, he simply made a mistake when it came to the guys identity due to the confusing scenario at hand. 1. The dude at Walmart was certain it was the dude they had recently trespassed. 2. The dude admitted to having had a trespass order in the past. 3. He responded to Cody.
She keeps saying he should be ashamed, but the funny part is is people are so quick to point the fingers at the police instead of the ones who called the cops on you in the first place, if I had a Karen call the police on me for being too loud. I wouldn’t blame the police if they tried to arrest me.
This is the only cop I have ever seen who wasn't obsessed with seeing ID and it would've stopped this entire incident. Ironic
Lol yah usually they want Id and will lie about the law and spend a hour crying till their c.o comes and say the person isn't legally required to give them it then they still try to act like they should get id
not long on the force and thus the id crack has not created an habitual narcotic like reaction. love watching the looks on cops faces when they are told no to getting their id's. especially when honor your oath does it. well observed and stated
No 🧢
Funny how so many of us had the same thought😊
Nah... I bet even if he asked for his ID and run his ID, he would eventually find out the 10+ years ago Trespassing record (like the supervisor did) and we will still see the same outcome.
The irony of this video is it is the one time the cops didn't actually ask for ID, which seems to be the thing they crave the most.
The ID isn't what they crave, it's the invitation that the ID or lack of ID gives to unleash on a civilian.
I know! this was so stupid. everytime they ask for ID. and the only time they need to ID the person, they don't do it? like holy crap this is blood boiling
Absolutely my very first thought and was going to post the same. Glad I read yours! 👍
in germany, we say PAPIERE!
They don’t crave the ID it’s the reason to arrest somebody is what they crave. He already had the arrest so didn’t care about the ID
The fact the supervisor knew it was a mistaken identity, and then still doubled down on the arrest is insane.
They are NEVER wrong you see...
@G. Mann I mean the guy was actually trespassed for shoplifting from that Walmart 10 years earlier, so technically they were right
@@Mike.The.Jeweler Nope...trespass was only valid for 1 year (365 days) from time it was issued, so if you want to be technical, they were wrong...that's a long trespass warning, too...usually a CTW is only 30-90 days, and a CTN (which this one is) is typically a year or less, but way to attempt to run interference and defend the supervisor who doubled down on the arrest after already knowing that they had the wrong guy. That's gotta look great for you.
@David D absolutely not, he literally states in the video there is no listed length specified in the state for how long a trespass is good for. If it was only good for a year then the guy who they thought he was couldn't be trespassed either.
@@Mike.The.Jeweler in the video he states that if he had been shopping there regularly with no problems then he cannot be arrested for trespassing since he had been going there every time
Why wouldn't he have checked his ID? Deputy McNeely should not be a cop.
The fact he was arrested before confirming his identity just sealed the deal on that lawsuit
@@kevinmacisaac4856 He didn't answer to the name. He simply turned around. Those are not the same things. If you are walking and someone yells a name behind you, even if it's not your name, your instinct is to turn around to visually see what is going on. That is not a confirmation of identity.
@@kevinmacisaac4856 He was probably just trying to see what was going on
@@kevinmacisaac4856 All you have to do is think lol.. I can say anything but if YOU think I'm talking to YOU then you will turn around towards me.. I can say hello or what are you wearing or a random name.. you will answer to me in a public setting.
@@aoh4905 whatever
@@kevinmacisaac4856, it is perhaps fortunate that you are not a police officer.
That dude who worked at the Walmart looks exactly like the type of guy to lose 10 million dollars for the company he works for.
Totally unkempt and slovenly looking dude….doesn’t Walmart have a dress code?
He should be forced to pay as much as he can towards it, including selling his home Hopefully his wife leaves him and takes the kids, and he spends the rest of his life on the streets, where he belongs.
He looked like a simp
He's not gonna get 10M. It's an insanely high figure for the outcome. ... Unless he wants to play the angle that they denied him medicine when he said he needs it. But there, too, the defailed facts of his alleged affliction would be a stumbling block.
Looks like a huge loser
Why is it there’s CONSTANTLY leeway given to officers making “good-faith” mistakes but not citizens who are expected to have expert knowledge of all laws, case law, etc.
Why do courts hold officers to a LOWER standard than an average citizen? It’s disgusting.
Courts make no money for the state if an officer of the state makes a mistake. A citizen though, is nothing more than a piggy bank that if shaken violently and often enough yields results.
Officers let people go with just a warning all the time. They only arrest you when you let your Karen self take over.😌
@@boulderbash19700209uhhh that seriously depends on a lot
Imagine if criminals couldn't be charged for "good faith" mistakes, all hell would break loose
I suspect it is because we constantly send cops into tense situations, and so eventually mistakes will be made. If they faced similar consequences for these mistakes to your regular citizen then the risk of doing to the job would be too much for any rational person to accept.
How do you give the officer a B- when he CLEARLY gets an "F" due to the fact as you say he never checked his id. That in of itself is an F.
The channel is a bootlicking BS cop lover
B- is passing. This cop deserves a D+.
@@cafr1985he hardly ever favors arresting officers idk why you’re pressed about it
@@cafr1985thats not true🤦🏾♂️
I swear this channel is run by a cop, or an ex-cop. 😑
What I've learned from this channel - if you get within 100ft of a cop at any time they'll ask you for ID, and arrest you if you refuse to provide it. But when investigating an offense that is entirely related to who you actually are, they don't ask for ID.
Right it's the one time it would have been in the cops best interest to try and Id the guy and he never bothers.
I want what the cops be smoking, they on some wild shit
bhc
If the Big Money says you are guilty the cops will always agree.
If only the officer had done the usual police investigation by staring threateningly at the man and demanding ID this would all have been over in minutes.
@@dimitrilitovsk2372 fentanyl is a helluva drug
Lol, so true, isn't that something
I get human make mistakes but failing to identify a suspect before arrest is something I've never seen before.
Failing to even ATTEMPT to ID a suspect is suspicious itself for a cop.
They pretty much ALWAYS want to see your ID.
He admitted that he was issued a trespass
yes but as he ALSO said, it was 10 years ago. maybe... just MAYBE check his ID before proceeding@@TheDarkstarsk8allday
Shouldn’t that be the fucking law . You would think innocent until proven identity.
@@AC-jh3pn Too many cops believe in the old French Code Napoleon - Guilty Until Proven Innocent.
I just find it so hard to believe that the cop never once asked for his name or ID... This just blows my mind.
@Aluzky in this case they need the id
Apparently turning around upon hearing someone yell out a random name equals a positive ID. This is one time the cops were legally able to ask for ID and failed to do so.
People tend to cut corners in their jobs once they become 'experts'. Cops tend to be action-oriented rather than natural thinkers or natural bureaucrats, so they tend to do this a lot more than is reasonable. That's why I am not surprised that this kind of thing happens. In fact, I was prepared to assume that this particular cop just made an honest mistake, learned from it, and it's not that big of a thing.
_However_ -- when he drove his victim home, he apparently didn't remove the handcuffs. That's totally inappropriate and indicates to me that the cop likely deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
@Aluzky
They should ID when they've RAS to suspect you or committing a crime.
The problem is they usually skip that step.
@Aluzky dude, the cop didn't even ask his name to confirm his identity
If you can be arrested and trespassed for no reason or being mistaken for somebody else...we are screwed.
It can't be done lawfully but anything can and will be done . There's legal murder, legal theft, legal robbery, legal kidnapping, legal assault and the list goes on . Then there's illegal murder, illegal theft, illegal robbery. Illegal kidnapping and this list goes on . What determines the legality or illegality depends upon how much a person is willing to pay to be legal. Everything illegal is assessed by the amount of blood that can be squeezed from the poor and criminalized.
Or you become a cop and you can do anything you want and get away with it.
Just don't shop there.
Isn't that what their stupid, expensive and invasive AI face recognition crap is supposed to be for?
This is shocking. Absolutely astonishing.
Not too long ago, a security guard at my local supermarket made a similar mistake - apparently I look quite similar to some other guy who had been banned from coming back there.
It was so fkn easy. He approached me, challenged me, asked me my name. I showed him my bank cards, which all have my name embossed upon them and pointed to another member of staff who knew me, and could confirm I was who I said I was.
He apologised for bothering me, and I went about my day. No absurd mistakes, no arrests, no lawsuits - just a funny story for me to tell the family when I got home.
Everyone makes mistakes - that's just human - but to refuse to acknowledge and apologise for the mistake, instead insisting on doubling down, digging the stupid hole deeper and deeper, and actually getting an innocent person *_arrested_* instead of simply accepting you got it wrong . . .
It's unbelievable.
The fact that they took him back to jail on a ten year old trespass AFTER realizing he was not the right man is horrible. We need to make that vindictive supervisor famous.
“Find Me The Man, I’ll Find The Crime”
@@kehenabeach4418 whose quote was that?
IMO this is by far the worst part about this whole case.
@@Sapizanza Lavrentiy Beria. Stalin's chief of secret police.
I 100% agree, I wish they had given up the name of the sargent that charged him after they knew the first cop fvcked up!
Tony should definitely include him in the lawsuit.
Amazing that a person could be put thru all that, without having been identified.
The cops are usually very eager to ID someone (many times illegally) Now that ID was important to prove his innocence, they wanted no part of it. This may be the first time I didn’t hear a request for ID 🤦🏽♂️
@@rampagerob3387 WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYBODY HAVE TO “PROVE HIS INNOCENCE”!?!?!?!?!?
THAT IS NOT HOW THE CONSTITUTION WORKS IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!
Proor that it is a police state.
Crazy he only got a B- for that.
he was identified. Another white man said he was trespassing so it must be true., I mean the guy was Asian! At least he wasn't black or it would've been worse.
Imagine being trespassed from Walmart because your partner was mistakenly arrested because the supervisor and the cop failed to properly ID them.
Right.... Makes sense huh.
Mistaken identity happens all the time. In many non Western countries you can't even sue when it happens.
@@mongoose6685 Who does not consider it a problem? Where are these people who don't mind when this happens to them?
Even if you are homeless or you live in a not-"first world" country locked in guerilla warfare, injustice committed upon you is aggravating.
So who and where is happy to be kicked out and banished from perhaps their only local store for absolutely no reason?
Imagine never spending a cent at Wal mart ! If you feed the tiger don’t be surprised when he rips your hand off !
@@mongoose6685 absolutely is something you can sue for.
It doesn’t matter how calm and polite the officer is. It is massively outweighed by his ignorance
How on earth do you not properly identify a suspect before arrest? That means they could arrest anybody at any time and basically say Oops, wrong person and get away with it.
Exactly and the officer still gets a B- after causing all this harm.
That's literally what happens all the time. People get charged with crimes and then the charges are dismissed later in court.
happens more than you'd want to believe
What do you expect?!!!!!!
When our so called cops can do anything they want and never get get trouble, they don't have to obey the law.
Sorry to break it to you, but they can arrest anyone. Then say opps.
Not only did they re-arrest him after discovering their mistake, but they actually tried to charge him. Crazy.
Cop's supervisor tried stupidly to CYA their mistake by charging him over that really old trespass that could easily be argued their repeated lack of enforcement has rendered null and void
You know how you can't solicit trespass? These smart cops knew that so they didn't solicit and just ASSUMED he was trespass. outplayed us all.
They don't give a flying frack. Just charge people rather it's legit or not
typical american pork
@@jonaboy3 where did you hear the cops can't solicit a trespass ?
He called the cops without even looking that man in the face?
Big ol’ Baby!!
Arresting wrong person is an automatic F.
Considering how many times I’ve seen officers not only ask, but demand ID, It’s unbelievable that this officer didn’t ask for any ID to confirm his identity at any point before the arrest.
That was detainment and if he says "no" it's pointless. Not to mention he admitted to the crime anyway
city of cumming lol 6:06
AMEN, BROTHER , THIS PIG IS STUPID . HE DIDNT VERIFY ANYTHING BEFORE TAKING ACTION .
@Sam Miller He admitted he did shoplift there something like 12-13 years ago, but the trespass warning was set for a year by the judge. Only way to be sure would be to check the record, could have been made longer or permanent for some reason.
EXACTLY.......Did I miss the part where the cop asked to confirm his identity, which his girlfriend would have confirmed? Yes, he had also been barred from Walmart, but to do the basic of basic checks instead of taking a mall cop's word would have resolved this sooner.
The odds that this dude actually got in trouble with this exact Walmart a decade ago and then gets misidentified for another dude who got trespassed is kinda crazy.
Thank u I was looking for this comment
This and combined with the cops negligence to even ask him his name… what are the odds. Insane.
Exactly that's wild!
Lol too bad he wasn't playing the lottery!! What are the odds, right?? 🤣
😂 when he said he got trespassed 10 years ago
This is crazy that all this is happening without then even verifying its the actual person they were actually accused of being.
Well most of the time people refuse to show their IDs and the cop is accused of violating their rights so it’s a lose lose situation also the guy was trespassed so he was allowed me to be removed from the store anyways
@@salty9702 HE wasn't the person they accused him of being. The entire interaction was based on th assumption he was a specific person. Therefore ID should've been requested. That's common sense plain and simple. He hadn't done a single thing to warrant this type of treatment. Furthermore there should've been an investigation into whether or not THIS person's no trespasss was actually order by a judge for only a yr or not.they CAN research that you know. If the charges were dropped, that tells you something
@@jayo4282 the guy admited that he was trespassed at some point, 10 yeara ago I belive. So in sone way he incriminated himself even is he's not the other guy
@@salty9702 You can't just trespass a person for no reason. A paying customer, no less.
The local community should boycott this Walmart.
@@JamesDM4 that's true, but he still wasn't the guy the associate accused of being a problem. So that's an issue that should never have come up.
Why didn't this Wal-Mart employee make sure it's the right person first, before calling the police and arresting the wrong person.
Because the level of stupidity of the Walmart employee is even worse than that of the cop.
Wally World loves calling cops. I see that all the time.
The fact that they shouted a name as a way to identify him instead of asking him, is bs. If I heard someone yell Cody in the middle of a Walmart I'm gonna look too
I thought the same too. If someone hollered a name your gonna look at them then turn to see who's attention they are trying to get. That's naturally how we all act in a public place. This was so stupid
I'd turn around if someone yelled anything near me.
Exactly! I've been called other names on the street and I look back and tell them that's not me. It's obvious one is gonna look back when you feel someone is directing themselves to you
I would have turned and looked also and I'm a female 😂.
@@marys99 What does gender have to do with reacting to a name being yelled?
All of this could have been avoided if the cop asked for ID.
officer needs to born again bro not a d+. that cop was 100% useless
@@user-ic3os6px3j
It was Tony's lucky day, hopefully he wins the case and gets the money.
I would imagine that this would probably end up with the officer finding his actual trespass order and play out similarly anyway
As a retired corrections officer the cop gets an F. There have been innocent ppl put in jail because the cop failed to do his job properly and some have died in jail as a result. No excuses.
What was the outcome of these types of failure when cops put innocent citizens in jail
Statism won't let you tell us it either but many such cases! Many such cases!!!
@D Guerrero Google it. Ppl are being exonerated after decades in prison for crimes they didn't commit . It's not limited to one place, it across the country. Read.
@@AquaStockYT what?
Well said
The cop was very calm and polite yet he failed to identify the suspect.
Although a cop being calm and polite is a necessary plus. It makes no sense to be calm, polite and ignorant to the law
He politely violated a man's rights.
Introvert I can tell he’s one of them just cause he is calm and polite does not mean anything 😂
Never talk to police. He should never have talked about a 10-year-old trespass. Probably no record of that anymore. That really hurts any lawsuit. She states: "I always supported police". Support the blue till it happens to you fits well. We all should consider a Boycott of Walmart for so many questionable actions
In the video it did state that while on the way to deliver the guy home that the supervisor of the officer requested to take him back because they had found out about the 10 year old trespass. So even though he had talked about it, they didn't say anything about it until he was already on his way home. At 14:40 in the video is where this part is talked about.
i've been boycotting since they fired me. why did they fire me? the official reason is that i wasn't working fast enough, despite the fact that the incident in question, i covered 2 lunches, handled the registers, and still managed to keep my department presentable. the unofficial reason? i left truck crew (2nd shift now), and they don't like people who do that. they spent 2 years looking for every possible reason to fire me. and they finally got tired of looking and made one. this was proven a week later, when the manager who fired me practically begged for me to reapply and come back. said he'd push through the interview and have me in later that week. told them they had to beat my new gig. at the time i had gone to private security, nearly doubled what i was making at walmart, and that i wanted a $5000 sign on bonus for bailing their butts out (my former department looked like multiple bombs had gone off. empty racks, clothes literally everywhere EXCEPT where they were supposed to be, etc.). a week after that, the other employees of that department retired (2 older gals), because they couldn't keep up with the sudden lack of a 3rd person and were tired of being screamed at for it.
so within 2 weeks, that department had gone from barely managing with a skeleton crew of 3 to no crew at all, except the one manager who fired me who then had to stock shelves, handle the fitting room, handle the phone, help customers, all in addition to his usual manager duties. not to mention that they also lost 3 cashiers, as we had all been cashier trained. last i heard, he ended up in the hospital with severe abdominal pain and hasn't returned since. this was 6-7 years or so ago.
Don't worry walmart is closingc300 stores do to theft. Basically leaving inner city America.
The 10 year old trespass was invalid too since they had only told him he couldn’t come back for a year I thought..
@@aalvarez2914
Someone's word vs written proof are two different things.
He SHOULD NOT be a manager at a Walmart if he’s so scared 😭
Not a manager, he is a "LOSS PREVENTION OFFICER" kind of like a junior security job. Scratch that, more like a crossing guard.
I was stopped by one once. They really do look that shlubby. I get they're trying to blend in but it's extra insulting being inconvenienced by a neck beard in stained gym shorts.
This same guy was busted by police in another video on my channel.. repeat offender🤬🤬
He was nothing more then a an extra adult on a school bus to watch kids.
@@walkerlocker6126"inconvenienced by a neck beard in stained gym shorts" is the most descriptive sentence I've seen on RUclips 🤣
The fact that they "Tresspassed" her out of spite and embarrassment is worth $5M in itself.
no its not.
@kaimojepaslt
Yes it is... and it should come from the Police retirement fund.
Taxpayers should stop having to pay for Police breaking the very Laws they are supposed to enforce.
@@bluefalconssuck5881it should come from what ever cop made the mistakes pay, at least a percent, like a monthly wage. Taking from the entire pot because a few bad apples is a socialist move and this is America.
@@bluefalconssuck5881 Amen!
@@bluefalconssuck5881 Why would the police fund pay for what Walmart chose to do?
Officer gets a F for not asking for identification
Or even asking for his name. Turning around when someone shouts isnt evidence. People are curious whats going on.
You know, Tony seems like the type of guy who would have accepted the cop's apology and probably let it go once the cop drove him back. I firmly believe that by re-arresting and charging him, that sarge brought on the lawsuit he was trying to avoid
The Sargent is insanely stupid. To have no clue that a trespass expires after a time. He caused the lawsuit.
@@STEVEID1946Your first sentence is the funniest one I’ve read in the month of April. The irony is STRONG strong.
The Sgt wasn't attempting to avoid a lawsuit, he was simply trying to C.Y.A for the only cop in America who doesn't fiend for I.D... It's why he requested Tony's picture, I.D.,and began investigation into his background after he was un-arrested.. They wanted the arrest to be legitimate while the Rookie seems to be an order follower who was willing to let Tony go but re-arrested an innocent man because he was told to.. Tony is gold as long as he has Court documents proving his trespass would be rescinded after a year, and I find it very hard to believe the current SCOTUS would stand by allowing cops to arrest Citizens for "mistaken" identity, otherwise cops could simply pretend they thought any Citizen had a warrant or was trespassed from any private property and arrest them in an attempt to find other charges to bury them with.. Cops would be able to lie even more than they already do, place any Citizen under arrest simply because the cop doesn't like them and all the cop has to say is "mistaken identity" and the charges stick? I don't believe the Constitution would agree..
Why would a lawsuit be legit? He was trespassed for shoplifting. And has zero record that it was for one year. He just a thief trying to get paid for doing nothing.
@Nate IsWatching just because he was a thief in his past doesn't give anyone an excuse to violate his rights. Rethink your position and come back when youre not as stupid
The fact that they didn't ID him when they normally do and that's become a problem in itself (overly IDing people and arresting them when not giving it) and then SHE got tresspassed over a mistaken identity and the double down on it. This whole thing is so messed up and disgusting.
Cop was too excited to get to arrest someone to figure out who he was arresting
I agree, the cops are usually very eager to obtain ID but now that an ID would set someone free, they wanted no part of it. The arresting officer apologized for making a mistake and offered to drive him home. The department’s ego got in the way and instead of admitting they were wrong, they doubled down on a BS technically
Think about it. A multinational huge brand is allowing some little piggy to dictate who can shop there. Before someone is banned from shopping at one of the largest retailers on the world, should at least a manager be called in? I know all these companies have a database of people they ban. But what happened here is that the cop relied on the little piggy instead of doing his job. The reason the police have the authority to physically take someone is because they have the responsibility to do their job correctly. But he did not. He relied on little piggy. And what are the repercussions for little piggy? He should at least lose his job. And when people do the "Walmartian" videos and make fun of people, shouldn't Walmart have at least some sort of dress code for it's employees? If little piggy told me he was the "security" or any part of management I'd laugh in his face. And the cop should have to have some sort of due diligence before just blindly accepting the word of someone like that.
You know what really happened don't you? Racist AI. They were so confident that was the person they thought it was. Guess AI isn't that good at doing it's job after all. Guess to an AI all Asian people look the same (tbh) they really do tho. Gotta try extra hard to Id an Asian
Not to mention they doubled down on their mistake and still got him for trespassing after 10 years! Their egos couldn’t let them be wrong
If someone yells out a name loudly, I'm going to turn around and look at the person even if they didn't call out my name. While McNeely acted calm and even-tempered, the fact that he didn't ask for identification when first confronting Nguyen is absurd.
"damn, they would've gotten me that day" were my exact thoughts when that part happened. It's such a weak means of determining an I.D.
Go walk the streets of your local big city. That'll teach you to not "answer" to callouts that don't include your name. Homeless people asking for money, random gangster shaking down a shopkeeper..... dont look, don't acknowledge, keep your face in your phone while side-eyeing around you so you can keep aware without directly engaging.
"HEY YOU" or whatever other vague call-out, is almost NEVER something you should turn around for. If you're somewhere where you aren't surrounded by people you know, and you don't expect to come across someone you know, you probably don't know them, and so they're probably not talking to you, and so don't react or respond. Especially at a distance. If they really want to engage you, they will approach, and if they're aggressive.... self-defense and 2A are your friends. Unless you think being alive, but wrongfully sued is worse than being dead. Iunno, people weird these days.
@randomusername I have enough street smarts to the point where that's just plain common sense. "I don't carry change" and "I didn't see shxt". It's all fairly avoidable without the paranoia, I look because I'm cautious and alert.
@@randomuserame Don't "keep your face in your phone" because they will definitely go for the phone!
He's young. He placed too much confidence in the Walmart employee's word. This is an expensive lesson, but you can bet that now he'll ask for the name of the doctor who delivered you.🤔🤨🤨
He should sue Walmart employee Walmart and cop for not being more thorough. He should also sue the cop and the police department.
The fact that the officer would never address again the "suspect" by his alleged name during the whole interaction with him, so he never gets a chance to say "wait, that's not my name", is mind-blowing.
I kind of get it, the cop did say it was about a trespass warning to which Nguyen confirmed. Still weird not to get ID off the guy.
@@adriansrealm I mean, had the officer been more polite and spoken to the arrested using a simple "Mr. Vondelinde" the whole thing would've been sorted out in less than a minute. But for that the officer should first know he must respect memebers of the public, even if they may be committing an offence.
The most screwed up part of this whole ordeal was when they released him and then booked him again when they found the old trespass. The very minute they realized they had the wrong guy they should have apologized and took him home. That's like if police raided the wrong house but in the process find weed and throw you in jail anyways. It's ridiculous and the man never should have been arrested in the first place. But since they went ahead and put him in jail anyways, they turned this from an honest mistake into an unconstitutional encounter.
So the supervisor who decided to charge him the second time is who rightfully deserves and F.
Not using his name during the entire prolonged encounter HAD to be deliberate, covering up the bad arrest. I also don't believe his story that he called out Cody's name and the man NOT named Cody responded. Sure he did. I also don't believe the girlfriend did not use her boyfriend's name even once throughout this encounter. He just ignored everything he heard about reality because he was hell-bent on arresting this kid.
@@skillethead15 so arresting someone who is trespassing is unconstitutional? There is no lawsuit. This guy was lucky charges were dropped but now he’s just ludicrous with the lawsuit. While the cop was arresting him, he kept repeating that he did in fact have a trespassing order against him.
I hope he wins something meaningful from Walmart in the case. The fact that the police just listen to a random employee without verifying the information is criminal.
This is why people should boycott Walmart. That supervisor should be fired, he is also racist and didnot care if he got it wrong. He also sounds like a coward as he was not sure if he had the right guy as he was afraid to make eye contact. Due to his racism and incompetence both these innocent people got trespassed. Walmart had a history of chauvinism, racism, sexism and classism. They care so little for staff that they would rather replace all people possible with technology. Boycotting Walmart is the best Justice.
It will be settled out of court guaranteed.
@@sitdowndustythis. They'll give him like $200k to settle. Lawyer will take half of it. Taxes will take half of what's left. He'll get $50k cash, and call it a day. They MIGHT un-trespass him and his gf if they are feeling generous.
Yea, in general idk why they trust the callers so much
Because simply he's white.
You're dead wrong on that rating! That cop should have gotten a D- or an F for flat out arresting him and not even checking Mr. Nguyen's ID! Any cop who did an actual unbiased investigation would have found out he wasn't who that clown was accusing him of being, and then the cop didn't have to let them trespass his wife! I'm glad Mr. Nguyen is coming after all of them in that lawsuit and I hope to God he wins it all!
What showing na ID would change when that guy was still trespassing? He would still end up in jail, like he did in the end. If the guy who looks like someone fitting the profile on the encounter would admit he had trespassing warning 10 years ago (that's why there was no fight over false accusation between cop and arrested otherwise everything would clear up in seconds), that would set off track lot of people, it is a case of such a bad coincidence that wrong person has been arrested, but for valid reasons.
@sanjyuu2298 typical troll missing the point! In Florida being trespassed lasts for a year unless being deemed indefinite. What you said about not being identified properly is by far the most ignorant excuse I've heard! That is standard police procedure. He was shopping there again one year after being trespassed with no issues. The police arrested him with prejudice and because the wife objected and started videoing she gets trespassed too!? What's your cap for that?
@@RPaulo8k It's in human nature to make mistakes, i only told you how he could make erroneous assumptions becuase of bad coincidences. I don't know Florida law, so i admit my assumptions could be wrong, but if he was put in jail anyway after it was confirmed he was blacklisted by supervisor, i could only assume that trespassing warning was still valid, but it was not mentioned or i missed it. I have no idea where his wife being charged with tresspassing came from, only husband was arrested(?). At lest this cop wasn't acting like "get to the ground" shouted 100000 times per second with a taser ready to shoot you into face without a warning and after being handcuffed too. One of the calmest encounters i saw on this channel.
@sanjyuu2298 cops aren't allowed to make mistakes like this. They're supposed to be impartial until credibility is established which it wasn't in this case. That cop was too quick to arrest Mr Nguyen and if that employee was certain about Mr Nguyen, he wouldn't be trying to cover up his face. That supervisor could have looked at the date of the trespass and if it was more than a year old, he shouldn't have been taken back to jail under the state's statutes, but that's how the prison system works. It's all about money, and I hope they pay every cent of it to Mr Nguyen!
You should watch more videos on here because there are cops that are professional and make proper arrests, but the commenter rated wrong on this one.
Exactly.. They have photos of everyone.
The ONE time a cop doesn't ask for ID.
Don't you love it when they wrongfully arrest someone, and then do their damnedest to find anything that could possibly be used to turn it into a legal arrest? Guilty until proven innocent
I was thinking that too
I absolutely hate those bastards!!!
As shallow as it sounds, its a two way street. Cases like these are about Finding any way to prove the defendant is guilty, or any way that their innocent. The ideal case has to go over every claim with severe scrutiny, to let justice be served.
The supervisor should be investigated for this. The arresting officer did the right thing when he discovered his mistake and was driving him home with an apology... The supervisor was the one who decided to double down on the mistake, rather than admit mistakes happen.
Yes! The Adversarial system of Law sucks! Inquisitorial system with part of the Court investigating with a Impartial Arbiters is so much more exact in finding facts, but costs more and of course takes the power away from the Judge and Police.
How brain dead you gotta be to arrest someone without confirming his identity, this cop should never get a badge EVER again.
Uh….the bar for law enforcement is pretty low, not sure why you are shocked by it?
He looks like a rookie. Sadly for him he made a huge mistake that in other situation might not have been huge at all.
He did not seem to have bad intention, just tried doing the thing and getting over with it.
A what appeared to be an easy trespass case.
Cops' attitude is if you have been accused by Joe Public, you are guilty. Cop acted on the Wal-Mart employee's directions alone. If he had taken the time to check, he may not made a mistake.
This cop is a total idiot , rookie
True. He needs to go back and get further training
His supervisor gets an F, still charging him after discovering the error was definitely an attempt at damage control.
Every single one of them receives an F. Hope he gets a great settlement.
Nope just a b-. What a joke of a grade, can't take ATA seriously
Not really the mistake was at Walmart for calling in on the wrong shoplifter that got booted from the store is all. They were able to confirm the guys identity. His supervisor for some reason figured out the guy was also booted from that Walmart for shoplifting. maybe he has a lot of priors for shoplifting and he had a hunch.
@@ronpetersen2317incorrect. If you paid attention to the video you’d know that he was trespassed for ONE year in 2013. It’s 2023, he was no longer trespassed.
This cop’s handcuff first, investigate later policy is dangerous.
Others have already said this but it’s truly crazy how the one time asking for an ID could’ve prevented this situation, the officer does not ask for it and immediately goes in for the arrest.
It was his admission of the prior trespass that kept the officer from investigating further.
Still ridiculous, but slightly (by a hair) less so.
@Anna not ridiculous at all. The dude admitted he'd been trespassed that was his own fault
What's crazy is that this would truly be a legitimate request for ID, but once in cuffs ID is secondary/ irrelevant so straight to jail?
@@yunofun Situations like this is why we have the right to remain silent. This man literally incriminated himself. Had he just remained silent and then gave them his ID when they forced it from him since he was arrested, none of this would have happened. I can see how he actually thought he was being arrested for his old trespass but you have to fight the urge to defend yourself. Especially if you think you are guilty because it cannot help you in anyway. DO NOT EVER TALK TO THE POLICE PEOPLE!
@@deusvult6920 He also said it was years ago which is not in line with the information the officer had. The admission gives the officer a reason to investigate and still trespass him if the old order was still in effect. Still ridiculous to not confirm the guys ID.
The supervisor gets an F. Instead of allowing the corrective actions of the mistake of his officer made, he doubled down and found a reason to [re]arrest this gentleman as an attempt to appear as if the original arrest was justified.
And for being racist. The guy clearly wasn't the same one he had trespassed the previous year. Disgusting.
@ReauDog, EXACTLY!
The initial arrest was unfortunate but this tendency to double down just to save face is absolutely disgusting! Its no longer being done in the interest of the public.This lawsuit suggests this "doubling down" is the extreme opposite since the public are the ones footing the bill if the court sides with the plaintiff.
The supervisor did that as defensive tactic to manufacture a fake argument that the arrest was valid. He was trying to protect the department form a lawsuit by trying to railroad Tony with fake, BS arguments. That press-release was his second desperate and pathetic attempt after Tony's charges were dropped.
The sergeant should lose his command.
@@Monty-Zuma walmart is funded by the people
Pretty disturbing how an underpaid employee can so casually turn someone's life upside-down just by calling the police whom, in turn, make the situation worse with their negligence.
That's what the police is known for.
How much do you need to hate your life to take a job busting poor people on behalf of a trillion dollar corporation
Trillion? C'mon dude.
Who's saying he was underpaid...? Based on how he did his job I think there's an argument he was overpaid 🙄
@@charlottegerken4477 these people don’t make much
I find it funny that they usually INSIST on ID...and in this case they didn't even ask him for it to double check who he was!
It is baffling to me that the cop didnt even BOTHER to identify him as soon as he had him in cuffs. Like how do these individuals get past the academy
On the other hand, he admitted to being trespassed 10 yrs ago. I’m not saying the cop shouldn’t have confirmed his ID, but the manager said this guy is trespassing and when approached about trespassing the guy says “Yeah, but that was 10yrs ago”… at that point what the manager is saying and the suspect is saying matches up…
@@hgroce15 you still need to ID the person fam how do you proceed with anything without confirming the ID. U cant just grab a random person from the store u get pointed to and start arresting them cause they got pointed at.
@@hgroce15 This is hilarious and I'm Abraham Lincoln. Don't ask me for ID.
dude was a 25 year old virgin look at this cop..hahah
The name ”Academy” gives some resemblance of dignity to this toddler pen.
So let me get this straight, this cop's oversight caused him to arrest an innocent person, and, sure, he apologized after realizing he was wrong but then arrested him again to try and cover it up, resulting in a million dollar lawsuit. B- seems crazy high to me
the narrator is a pig shill, he cites obscure pro cop laws and precedents all the time instead of acting like a normal person and using his platform to point out how ridiculous and oppressive this state of affairs is, instead he volunteers his own opinions and predictions of the legality of obviously questionable bullshit the cops pull all the time, 90% of the time it's followed by "the prosecution dropped all charges and x filed a lawsuit" but this pig friendly narrator keeps hinting at whatever these tyrannical fuckers do being totally above board, but God forgive you raise your voice after being physically abused and kidnapped by these thugs
He was ordered to bring him back to be arrested.
he arrested the wrong person not necessarily an innocent person. the person he arrested was trespassed before so the arrest is legal and ok, just not the person the walmart caller identified
@@alexanderzack3720you're kidding right? His trespass was from a DECADE ago and he has been shopping there since without issue.
If you don't see an issue with this, then you are part of the problem. This police department is corrupt 100%. The way that Sgt handled this situation is scary. They've definitely done this to people before.
@@LeoLeeGaming i see plenty problem with that. but that´s the thing with law, it has no morality. from a moral standpoint what the officer did is wrong, but it was legal as explained in the video.
and even if i´m wrong i´m not part of the problem: i don´t live in the usa
The hilarity of him apologizing and trying to drive the victim home, then bowing to his supervisor who was trying to cover it up and re-arresting him is hilarious.
The funniest part to me is that the best way to cover something like this up is usually to make a sincere apology and move on, not to double down on the retardation. I'm not sure why police supervisors think this is a good way to operate. Mr. Nguyen likely would have never sued had he been brought home with a sincere apology from the officer and a written apology from the dept. The best way to avoid pissing people off is to make them whole or to at least make them feel as though you've made them whole when you fuck up and cause them problems.
I doubt that the police officer's stop to take a picture of the "suspect" of a SUSPENDED ARREST while driving him back to the original point of arrest was even legal under state law, let alone under federal law. The taking of his ID while he was simply being driven back to his intervention point and, at rhe time, him not being detained or under arrest is a direct viiolation of the 4th amendment. UGH.
To be fair, once they properly IDed him, they did find out he HAD been trespassed. 10 years earlier. My only question is where the 'for only one year' came from and whether or not it's valid. If so, it should have been recorded and he still has ALL the grounds to sue. If not, I kinda think he got caught doing exactly what they accused him of, just not the person they thought they caught.
@@anthonyantoine9232 Yep. It's usually the cover up that gets you in real trouble. If I was a juror, that would add at least a zero to what I'd be willing to award.
@@colinsmith1495 It would be amusing to observe & listen to two lawyers (plaintiff and complainaint) arguing before a federal civil rights jury about the legality of a"stop and ID intervention" by the police over a 10+ yr old tresspass "warning" isssued against a current known / proven long term customer of that same store. Hmmm......
The only cop in history to not demand ID
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was thinking the exact same thing!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Cmon man. B-? Not even checking the ID? Look at the harm that caused. I hope this guy prevails.
So you've never made a mistake in your life?
@@brianbagnall3029 yea but B score is a slap on the wrist for the damage he caused by not doing his basic duty.
@@brianbagnall3029cops making mistakes can be fatal! There is no excuse for not identifying the suspect, before jumping the gun( pun intended).
To be fair at least the cop wasn't an arrogant dick like most seem to be. He should have investigated but at least he didn't get all hung up on himself and spoke in a calm relaxed manner.
@@brianbagnall3029 not a dumbass mistake like that.
I pray for this couple to win their lawsuit against Walmart. PS it is unbelievable the policeman didn't ask for this man's ID asap.
😅the cop should have his name on the lawsuit along with Walmart!
I can't see how it they would win. Walmart did identify wrong person, but that's pretty much it. And in context, while petty af, trespassing the girl seems to be within their rights.
@@mukkaar
Walmart and that piece of pork lard are legally responsible for making false police call that led to the false arrest!!!
@@thomastolbert6184McNeely is on the lawsuit, his is the bottom name.
They should be able to because of malicious discrimination and profiling. The guy who called the cops identified him positively as a different person. And then retaliated on his wife.
The grade seems too good for him. Not only detaining but also arresting someone without even trying to get their ID.
He apologizes and starts driving him home, only to turn around halfway? They are obviously disorganized. I imagine his boss is part of the problem.
His boss either shows up late and changes the subordinates direction after he's been enabled to take some action himself. Or the boss made the wrong decision without due dilligence himself, and needed to correct himself at a later time.
The cop is driving around in circles because he doesn't know what to do. They need some help communicating with each other.
Right? Ain't that like an automatic failing grade lol
Could be an honest mistake. And I wouldn't blame him for being overruled by his superior later. What has no innocent explanation is driving him home _in handcuffs_ .
@@evo-moment-37 let’s compare to other cops. He’s probably the better of them
@Neutral Commenter initial confusion with the info at hand makes sense but once he had opportunity to investigate (very easy only had to id) he should have. This cop failed to perform a basic job duty leading to an illegal arrest.
So many cops need that ID fix that could have made a big difference in this case
He arrested him because he looked when he called out a name . That’s just human nature , when someone screams out a name , everyone turns around to see what’s going on . Even if it wasn’t their name .
What a tool this officer is. I can see him rushing into the guy and assuming he got a positive identification because he, naturally, looked back after feeling someone was about to jump on him.
For real. I look towards any loud noise in public on reflex. It's just a safety thing
No, you react instinctively to your own name.
@@Piromysl359 Yes, but in a noisy store, "Cody" and "Tony" sound similar enough to make him turn around.
No dude.
He arrested him being the manager of the store pointed him out as someone who was trespassing, combined with the fact that he turned around when he said his name, combined with the fact that he also just so happened to mention that he had been trespassed from that exact store in the past.
Yes he should have verified his identity, but don't act like it wasn't several compounding coincidences that led to this.
Isn't it also ironic that this man did indeed trespass after all, after having shoplifted from that exact store. He wouldn't have been charged if his claim that "the court told me it was only for a year" was actually correct.
I can tell you this. Wal-Mart employee Pettigrew is going to get fired. I used to manage a Target and if an employee (especially Asset Protection) gets someone arrested or thrown out, and it turns out they didn’t do anything wrong, they are 100% going to be fired. The PR fiasco alone is going to cost this specific Wal-Mart sales and when sales are impacted, people get the boot. Whoever the manager on duty was at that time could get the boot too if not more people. That store will be getting a lot of visits from higher up coming soon. Pettigrew won’t be able to get another decent job like that because saying you got fired from Asset Protection at Wal-Mart means you did something like this on the job or you are terrible at your job. It’s the easiest position at a retail store. Hopefully his butt has to pay some of the lawsuit punitive damages and if it’s substantial enough, he’ll be filing for bankruptcy. He’s an idiot for possibly screwing his life up over mis identifying someone. We all saw how far he was away from Mr. Nguyen, and he thought yelling someone’s name out loud was good enough. I bet half the people shopping in that area turned around. Damn fool! Wal-Mart, douchebag, and the police deserve everything they get from here on out!!!
This is true. I used to work at walmart and if an employee cost the store a lot of money or damage. You're gone the next day or before the end of the week.
Amen. What a completely idiotic move to call the police on someone when you're not sure if they're who you think they are. It's thoughtless at best.
I'm glad
As he should. He's a liability. How foolish to misidentify like that.
Are we living in a simulation? His surname is Pettigrew, named after the Harry Potter rat traitor, smh
The supervisors literally prime example of why people hate cops... confirms a trespass notice was issued 10 years ago for the person they arrested via mistaken identity, and then proceeds to try to follow up with charges clearly just to save face rather then just let the man be and send him on his way with the apology.
The part that always confuses me is, how does doubling down achieve anything? It would only be an ego making such decisions.
@@TrustMelDontCare You have illegal charges placed on you you have to fight them, have you ever dealt with a DA or judge? They're just as bad as the police, just as ignorant of the law and the oath they swore. Doubling down works 99% of the time because people don't have unlimited resources to battle the United States Government. When you deal with corrupt police, corrupt DA's, corrupt judges, are you going to have faith in the system that you'd shell out thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer and take a crap shoot?
@@TrustMelDontCare that's the whole point...
@@jolehanson and, what's yours?
Exactly. If the supervisor hadn't stuck his nose in, the cop and Mr. Nguyen would likely have shook hands and parted ways.
Walmart will never ever get my business ever again. Ever. This was the final nail in the coffin.
okay Kathy, you won’t be missed.😂
Walmart was not responsible for him getting arrested and going to jail. The officer made that call. Obviously the officer did not bother doing any kind of reasonable investigation (hint: checking the ID).
Walmart managers make a lot of stupid decisions. Its not Walmart as a whole. But if this incident makes it more certain you’ll be going to local shops more instead and of mega super stores, then more power to ya!
@johannorman3067 if they wanted to pursue charges then yes they are.
They trespassed his lady as well for no reason. That’s why people may not want to go there.
Walmart security falsely detained and called cops on someone for cashing a check from their job WTH.
The officer gets an “F” again for failing to investigate in any way the crime accusation.
Fire him
How you giving the police a B-? No investigating, no jack, just rolls up and arrests someone for nothing, or because random Walmart guy says to. Your videos are alway excellent, just the first time I've ever thought your grade was trash 😂
For real what da heck bwa
They haven't shot him!
Agreed
well for starters, there was no yelling, no tazing, no spray, no shooting, which appears to be a normal conduct of police brutality and tyrants xD
@@Ed360x true
I originally thought 10 million was a little bit too much but then again it is Wal-Mart. Until, I heard the part where they discovered they had the wrong guy and drove him home only to arrest him again! That is one hell of an emotional roller-coaster.
He ain’t getting $10 million. Lol He’ll be lucky to get anything. Honest mistakes don’t get you paid unless they’re particularly egregious.
Wally World will quietly settle out of court for an "undisclosed sum" to make this indiscretion by one of it's employees "go away." What I can guarantee is the employee who mistakenly got the innocent person arrested is no longer employed.
@@Goulash45
See my preceding remark, regarding a ''mistake''.
Its a negotiation. Always ask for a high amount in the hopes Wal-Mart settles so they don't go to court.
@@charlesmills6621 The mistake was only over the initial mistaken identity. After the identity was established, he was still lawfully arrested. There was no mistake on that and that’s why he’ll be getting nothing or a “go away” settlement that won’t be much after attorney’s fees.
The cop needs to lose their license or certification.
I agree with that young lady, this entire situation is disgusting and I hope he wins this lawsuit
Ain't no way he gets all that amount, but he might get a good settlement, given the situation and the optics for Walmart.
I bet he gets a good settlement!!! Walmart can afford it lol.
Doesn’t matter if they were the most professional person ever, if you arrest the wrong person, you get an F
Yeah, I was upset by that comment as well. I'd rather a guy acting like a dick who knows the law and does the right thing than the guy who's super nice and "respectful" while ignoring my rights up one side and down the other. Ideally, cops could do both at the same time, but erring on the side of crude and competent is always the better choice if we have to make one.
Dude said B-. Tf is wrong with bro?😂😂. The officer messed up bad. Falsely arrested the man. Didn't ask for ID. Didn't listen to anything they said. Was also acting shady in the car & didn't wanna let him go but he didnt show that part. These ratings been off lately. Respectability politics is a mf.
While the sergeant was shady af and he failed to do a thorough investigation the dude admited to the crime he was being accused of even though he was under the impression he was allowed back on property by the judge who would not actually have the authority to reinstate his invitation. The officer saw the error and tried to make it right. The outcome would been same if he ID him but the cover up attempt was jack.
@@ignauciowitherspoon1618 the owner of the Walmart told the officer said the victim *WAS* the man who trespassed, and he was responding to trespassing call, so him assuming he was the guy isn't that crazy, also the victim who was being arrested said it was something he did a long time ago (1:30) and that of course at that point the cop was sure he had the guy.
he should still have asked for ID but well in this circumstance it is kinda understandable
@@TheNatedawg989 Multiple sources suggest it's Wal-Mart policy to only trespass people for a year. None of them are good sources (that I found), but if the Wal-Mart manager at the time said it was a 1 year trespass, then it was.
You and I don't know, but neither did the cop. If the guy said he was only trespassed for a year, ten years prior, the cop should have done due diligence and figured it out.
The longer they held him without checking his Id the more unreasonable the arrest became.
The supervisor then looking to see if there was anything else they could arrest him for was a CYA action and creates discredit for the department.
For real. Even the victim got too high of a grade of an A+ considering he didn't keep silent and self incriminated by admitting to a previous trespass. Didn't even ask the cop who he was looking for, after responding to the name of the actual suspect.
That is exactly what occured.....another example of the type of police we have in our Country...
makes the whole town look bad
Absolutely disgusting! It's shameful that the police motto is Protect and Serve. I hope their POST certification is permanently revoked. They are human trash. Shame on the employee that called the police instead of helping this gentleman.
I hope Nguyen wins this lawsuit. I’m so sick of these cops violating citizens rights!
Yes and it’s fitting Walmart get sued for $10 million because of their horrible treatment of their employees by not giving them insurance by making them all part time. Hopefully the tyrant cop gets fired or demoted. The Walmart loss prevention was profiling this Asian man who obviously not the right person who was issued a trespass warning.
@@weduhpeople8504 but didn’t the employee said he wasn’t sure because he couldn’t have a good look? If so what’s wrong with your legs to get closer to him and look better.
He will win 100%. Walmart won’t even waste time going to court because it’s a losing battle. The fat diabetic Walmart LP is guaranteed fired by now. He violate every Loss Prevention elements possible. How do I know this? I used to do his job for years.
Me too. And I was one of those citizens. Mine is in Canada though. But it is a tendency that the cops have of arresting victims.
Watch out for the increase in prices of Walmart merchandises, that’s could be an indication the Walmart lost the case.
Them deciding to charge him anyways even after discovering their mistake is the worst case of them trying to cover their tracks I think I've ever seen. They clearly wanted to not look incompetent and probably just walked themselves into a giving up a larger settlement.
Not quite. As mentioned in the video, Tony actually HAD been trespassed from Walmart prior to this incident. The first issue was that the cops didn't verify who he was initially, thinking that he was someone else still under a trespass order that was permanent. The second issue is that if that previous trespass was only for 1 year, then the cops screwed this up too.
If Tony knows that it was only for a year and especially if he can prove it had already expired, he has an even better case to argue and the (ultimately probable) settlement number goes up.
are you hard of hearing? or maybe struggled with learning in a school environment? were you able to follow the information given to you in this video correctly? 🤣
@MajorMassSpec But once they realized he wasn't who Walmart security guard thought he was, the police never went back to Walmart to verify that they wanted HIM trespassed. Instead, they used the previous criminal charge to justify their actions. As discussed on AtA, that doesn't necessarily preclude him from being able to shop there, and the lack of follow-up constitutes gross negligence on the part of the police.
@luna I don't understand what's so difficult for you about this scenario. Once they realized they had the wrong guy, they never went back to Walmart to verify they wanted HIM trespassed. Rather than follow up, they just used his decade-old charge to make up an excuse and try and save face. Had they gone back to Walmart and gotten verification, and Walmart agreed, I'd be more sympathetic with the police. But that wasn't the case. And that lack of follow-up leads to a larger settlement.
@@TheProph7exactly! Most of the time trespassing is for 1 year when it’s a corporate store and it should’ve stated “permanently”.
Any other time, these clowns are asking for ID likes it's crack.
Right, they really get off on ID's.
They ask for ID when they think it’ll get you in trouble. They don’t ask for ID when they think it’ll get you in trouble. It’s an excuse to find “suspicion” so they can at least detain you.
Those clowns are the wannabe mall cops
I my fucking god 😂 😂 😂
ID ID ID ID
I hope he wins, it's definitely racial profiling, also the fact the girlfriend gets a trespassing notice for just being next to her boyfriend is extremely disappointing. Also such notices should expire. Otherwise that's the equivalent of a never expiring restraining order with no way of legally overturning it!
The officer should get an F for this. Doing nothing to establish the identity of somebody before arresting them is a huge and fundamental abuse of power. It's so basic in terms of law and order and individual rights.
Yeah, I thought the same thing, at least a, more like a D, I guess
I agree for 200% with you, and even an F isn't really enough for such a HUGE failure and great lack of competance.
I strongly agree. The fact that the cop never ID'ed the victim here is really really bad.
He was negligent. In any other profession, this is grounds for dismissal and for losing the right to work again. Deserved an F-.
Any violation of civil rights should be an automatic F. Doesn’t matter if the officer was nice and apologetic.
An officer told my friend the other day “it’s not my job to know the law” and I started crying from laughing so hard
It's not their job to know the law, that's what a lawyer's job is for. An officer's job is to enforce the law and service the public. What he probably meant is that they aren't supposed to know every single letter on every single law, just enough to be able to do their job and do valid arrests. Prosecutors, lawyers and judges job is to know and interpret the law.
@@checkyourfax It's not 100% their job, but it's their responsibility.
@@checkyourfax How are they going to enforce something that they don't know?
@@Mr.Awes0me They mean they know the basics of the laws not every word in the law.
@@checkyourfax if I get arrested because of ignorance of the law is no excuse bulshit, then why the hell is in the cop not responsible to know the laws that he supposedly enforcing!? That doesn't make a lick of sense
Back in the day, Walmart’s biggest civil liability was sexual harassment by their managers. Now, a majority of the lawsuits against them comes from their security and their so called “greeters.” They did away with their greeters for sometime because of the lawsuits. As Walter says, “Welcome to Walmart, get your shit and get out.”
i prefer the dick chaney family guy walmart greeter "go f#^$ your self" lol
Also pay if you feel like it
I like the fact that you mentioned Walter... I love Jeff Dunham, the other white meat... Lol
Yeah walmarts these days feel more like prisons than stores. I know they are having lots of problems that aren't quite their fault, but I'm not so sure they don't deserve to suffer.
Believe me, the only thing I want to do when I go to Walmart is get my shit and get out.
B-! NO way. F. He didn't even ask for his ID immediately or his name.
He still arrested him to hide his screw up. Im sick of this. He trespassed the woman also and she was totally innocent. I blame the cop and security. I also blame Wal-Mart.
They are sloppy with shoplifting enforcement when most of the stealing is don’t by managers handling the cash, ……
It was walmart who trespassed ms. Caldwell
It was probably the supervisor who told him to take Nguyen in. Also, it wasn't the cop who trespassed the woman, if I'm not mistaken.
How in the hell the officer didn't check this guy's ID first to find out who he actually is before moving forward is absolutely beyond me.
Quota AKA performance review just like in the war days Vietnam Leos Cambodia Korea body count is what counts whether it be children women old men as long as it's the indigenous population for the war Bounty
Because his ethnicity was all the cop needed as id
Police are stupid…
@@Supa-Fly - BINGO!!!
The first part of the video was missing. We didn't get a complete recap from all sides. Just from the Victim.
I belive it went by like this:
The cop yelled.
The suspect reacted by turning.
The cop assumed his name was Cody , then asked if he knew he was trespassed from the building.
The suspect said yes. And the cop put him under arrest.
It is YOUR RIGHT to remain silent and invoke the 5th amendment. And if you are asked if you've been trespassed from there you should remain silent. Because it is the cop's duty to prove that you've committed any crime. But they CAN arrest you if you confess.
The fact that she was also given a trespass warning is also nuts to me. I already don't shop at Walmart. This is another reason.
I don’t shop at Walmart because it’s Walmart.
Most people don’t shop there either, they just steal at the self checkouts. 😂
So no loss for them then
@@michaelfernandes4873 Remember, stealing from Walmart isn't a crime, it's a public service.
@@joshmills5642 LMAO
So it never occurred to the deputy to .... oh, I don't know ...... CHECK HIS ID?!
*This the only time a cop never asked for ID.*
Excellent job by the Deputy to confirm identification, and said trespass order.
*You 100% illegally arrested a man.*
"You are under arrest for trespassing, Cody."
*"I'm not Cody."*
"Cody, you are under arrest for trespassing."
*"I'm not Cody."*
"HOLY SHIT! HE'S NOT CODY!!"
This officer screwed up, but if you paid attention to the video you’d know that it was not an illegal arrest.
Actually he took the name of the girl that was being trespassed for walmarts records which in most cases they say they must have their names of the trespassed person (many videos of LEO's trying to get names of person for walmart during a trespass warning.
@@Jamesfrancosdog Not an illegal arrest?
He arrested the wrong dude entirely.
Imagine if you go home today and the cops arrest you instead of your neighbor, Jeff, that they are looking for. Never check your ID, just haul your ass off to jail.
They want Jeff, you are Shawn. They arrest you because they think you are Jeff. They don't check your ID in your wallet. You go to jail. You have to pay $300 to get out of jail.
Problem? Or is that a legal arrest? Even though Jeff is who they want. You are locked up solely because they didn't check your identity.
@@Jamesfrancosdog It is an illegal arrest if it comes about through gross negligence, basically violating very basic police conduct principles. He failed to investigate but made himself a mere armed mook of a Wal Mart employee. This is why SWATing can work.
The cop violated the girlfriends 4th amendment by getting her ID for a trespass warning! After Walmart accepted Mr. as a rewards member, they revoked the trespass.
The deputy gets an F for not conducting an investigation into the identity of the person detained.
B- Other than not asking for that guy id I believe he’s actually a decent cop
He literally arrested a man that confessed to a crime😂
@@jer280 What was the crime he confessed to?
@@jaybee5832 "I was trespassed from here a long time ago"... They don't actually expire. Don't return to a place you stole from
@@jer280 He only stated he was trespassed. He didn't admit to a crime. I have been trespassed for 5 years but wasn't due to a crime.
Thank you for bringing this to a larger community. It kills me what happened to him, heard about it when he first posted it. As a FL resident, it is very disheartening.
I felt the same at first, but note, he WAS actually trespassing and had been trespassed the year before. So though the wrong guy, he was guilty of the same thing and far more recently.
he had not been trespassed the year before that was the person who his identity was mistaken for. His trespass was from 10 years ago and his arguement was that the court had termed the trespass to 1 year.
He was trespassing and because of prior shoplifting. How does this “kill” you? 😂 is it because all Asians look alike 😂
@@Running-withscissors You are a little bit thick, aren't you? When they say "he" was trespassed the year before they clearly meant the actual person that was trespassed, not the man arrested because of the wrong identification.
@@georgezee5173 Yup, more than a bit thick. I had to rewatch it and you and @Solvency are right. My mistake guys and why I was confused by some comments. ;)
White male 30-year Texas police officer here
I disagree with one thing about the Walmart incident
Walmart is a public accommodation they can't trespass the woman without reasonable cause
Just like the Court ruled that the cake baker was a public accommodation because he was open to sales to the public so is Walmart they can't refuse you to be there without you violating the law
They cannot trespass her for being a member of a protected class. Under federal law this means for her race, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, religion, disability, genetic information, HIV status, age, pregnancy, military status, or previous condition of servitude. Individual state laws may protect other classes in addition to those that are federally protected. They can trespass her for even trivial reasons or no reason at all, but not for being a member of a protected class. If you are referring to the Colorado Baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, the baker refused to make the cake because they were gay, a protected class. The baker could have legally refused to make them a cake because he didn't like people who smiled too much, or were left-handed, but not because of their sexual orientation.
These must be the only two cops in history that weren't fixated on getting the person's ID.
No way, that's the walmart I worked at. It doesn't surprise that this store dropped the ball here. The store manager got walked out in cuffs for embezzlement.
Source?
The one mentioned in the video or another one
Random and not relating to anything other than embezzlement but. Has anyone been to or had a store called Alco in your town or city? I am from a small rural town and this company opened a store there and it struck me as odd that a large general store would come to my little ass town. Turns out the whole company went down as a front for embezzling money. Makes you wonder how many people are playing the system lol
😂😂😂😂that’s what they get for arresting people mistakenly
@@chrisshrader3404 another one
What I never understand is why we as the tax payer are not more outraged by stories like this. The supervisor decided he needed to double down after they already messed up. He knew that years old trespass would probably not work and the fact his officer messed up with ID the first time around was going to look bad. So instead of being like cut him loose and let’s take a hit for the small mistake, their first thought is well let’s make it worse.
Indeed. It was BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that the supervisor illegally ran him as a DEFENSIVE tacit to try to dig something up to FABRICATE an argument that his arrest was valid. That's why they posted that feckless and laughably absurd press-release. Uh huh, and what if that old, expired ban didn't exist, then how would they try to spin that they arrested him because the white manager thinks east-Asians look the same and the cop didn't do his job? 🤨
I am and i speak up every time i get a chance. Nost people are to comfortable and dont want to be bothered.
Because not every tax payer is watching mainstream media and doesn't have the wrong impression, that every single police interaction results in police misconduct.
Also, police is already heavily defunded, so only incompetent rookies like this one are willing to work.
I'm surprised a walmarg in 2010 was still there. Most walmarts here are in bigger locations. Mind you this is back when no self checkout was out yet and they had the smiley face for rollback prices lol 😆
In Las Vegas, there is a consistent rumor "trespass warnings last a year". FALSE. Just like in Florida, they last however long the casino says they last. They may tell you "don't come back for 30 days" or "don't ever come back". If you get the latter, you are subject to detention and arrest even if you show up 30 years later (yes, they keep records that long--I visited a casino I hadn't been in for literally 30 years, asked for a player's card, and was told "you already have one", despite the place having been sold at least twice in between).
But what is sometimes true, just like here, it's likely going to be really hard to find a prosecutor who wants to use his time and the court's time to prosecute someone who 10 years later walks in and quietly eats dinner at a casino restaurant. That doesn't mean you won't get arrested, but it does typically mean you won't be convicted. Still adds an arrest to your record, and ruins your day, and likely costs you a few hours of lawyer time, at least. So it ain't nothing.
So the police taking someone in for trespassing on a 10-year-old incident? Actually it makes legal sense. Walmart screwed up, and the cop screwed up, but they failed successfully. "You didn't mean to catch me breaking the law--you were trying to catch that other guy" is not a cogent legal defense. I don't imagine the victim is going to get very far with his lawsuit. He may get a nuisance settlement out of it, but technically, and legally, it was a legitimate arrest. That the prosecutor tossed it doesn't make it not so.
The one cop in America that did not want the ID within 1 minute after contact. An absolute miracle. I am shocked.
I'm glad the lady was patient in such a stressful situation. She did not act hysterical and neither did the victim being arrested. Patients pays off.
Not really, the outcome was the same, jail.
@@rootchiller yeah. But you got video of yourself acting normal, you could use it to sue in a court. Better than both of them going to jail and getting the phone taken away.
@@DingDong-gn7hj As long as your calm it helps but lets be honest a sizable chunk of humanity faced with that would explode.
but no matter how small the crime he was trespassed before, if he kept the paperwork showing only a year then good but if not technically he was naughty.
Patience*
A B-? For arresting the wrong guy??? Has to be at MOST a D+. Worst grading yet 😂
Arresting the wrong person is IMMEDIATELY a F- rating 😂
Yeah man. Ata is fucking tripping.
How did he arrested the wrong person? AP literally told the officers it was them. If you want to blame someone blame that walmart employee!
@@evilthing999 it’s the officers job to properly ID the person they are arresting 😂 dumb fucks lol
@@evilthing999 then they tried to justify it by saying the 10 year old ban was still in effect
A B-!? Bro NGL that's an awful rating! Should have got highest a C right off the bat for not IDing c'mon dude!
It's an F. He arrested someone who was accused of being someone else without even asking his name, let alone checking an ID.
@@kparker84 that's what I'm saying! Pretty insane tbh.
@@pannkeki8940 I still wonder if this channel is a weird AI experiment.
@@kparker84 if you think this is an f, it means you have not see the other cops on this channel.
@@pianopiano3037 Definitely not an F. An F would've had multiple police show up, tackle him to the ground, maybe threaten his partner with obstructing police just for being there filming and then maybe do an illegal search of their vehicle because they "smelt something".
The fact that a business can trespass you without giving a reason baffles me
They are private entities. They do not need to give you a reason. Its BS but this is America. You can block anyone's phone number on your phone without giving a reason.
Racially profiled, wrongfully arrested, and not even ID'd !! Holy shit both the walmart pig and the arresting pig messed up big time! I hope they win millions!
This goes to show that the cops are ALLWAYS going to make sure they can find ANYTHING to charge you with, even if the reason they first stopped you was unlawful.
The officer making the arrest wanted to bring him home. It was his supervisor that was the huge dickhead trying to save his skin from unlawful arrest.
seems like the deputy was doing proper by trying to undo the fuck up and bring him home, but the supervisor was covering their asses in anyway possible.
you kids are stupid, you should learn how courts work. it was such a clean arrest you should be happy.
Ive legit never seen a cop not confirm someones identity. That is literally the root cause of most of audit the audit videos lol
Man had all the id he needed he shouted Cody and Cody look at him he told him about his trespass offence and and Cody confirmed he did have one before that in itself was reasonable by any standard.
@@princeking1562 lol ok. Then after that maybe you ask him his last name before hauling him off to jail lol?
@@swagy6012 You do know the law usually looks at what the average reasonable person would do?. This man didn't even contest that he wasn't Cody and was in fact Tony which made it not necessary to check for a name they already had since all they needed to do was check for the offence if he was Coby/Kobe maybe i could excuse him not recognizing that he was being called by another name neither him or his girlfriend said anything about that name but they recorded which was funny and i can almost bet you cause we see it all too regularly in full length videos they called that name in front of him while checking and talking and he said nothing.
@@princeking1562I mean cody and tony a pretty close especially in a store with a bunch of noise… idk why your so getting such a hard on for the cop and walmart security, they saw an asian assumed he was a different asian and instead of getting an id card you know like any reasonable person might do just said “yep thats the asian we were looking for”. Stop knob slobbering these idiots they failed at almost every point in this whole situation full stop.
@@princeking1562 So you believe racially profiling is a reasonable standard. 🙄 Wow. They would take you for millions lol
Why didn't the cop ask for ID or even explain the situation? Questions in order: this is a spotcheck, name and ID sir?, do you know your banned from this store? Your being asked to leave by the store, will you comply? Probably would have cleared up the mistake in identity and no one needed to be arrested.
Lastly the cops treatment of the girlfriend was criminal. Her crime, standing next to her boyfriend, it seems. Also trying to detain her in an office as an excuse to stop her filming? Why wasn't this done outside in the car park? They were outside while he was putting the boyfriend in the cop car before bringing her back inside? Why not take her details and both drive to the police station?
Giving this officer a B when all he had to do was check an ID card before arresting this man is a stretch. This could have all been over before handcuffs were even placed on the man.
Edit: then arresting him again to cover up his original mistake was the biggest pile of dog dung I’ve ever heard of.
Absolutely right.
AtA ratings are often questionable. Especially considering the extreme rarity of Ds and the nonexistence of Es.
Yeah. Audit the audit thinks you have to have friendly conversation with police servants.
Yeah, I get the cop did a lot of little things right and was respectful. But you can't get that high a grade when you failed the basic assignment. Walk up to man, before putting handcuffs, "mr. Nuegen I'm here cause you're in violation of trespassing." Oh that's not me. Check id. Ah sorry looks like it was a mistake. Have a nice day.
@@Dowlphin In the grading system there are no E's. The rest of your statement I do agree with.
I can't stand it that the supreme court allows cops to violate somebody's constitutional rights under the color of law calling it a "simple mistake" when that same simple mistake grace is not extended to any other citizen!
"Mistakes will be made in the performance of law enforcement duties. We take this very seriously. We have an ongoing internal investigation. And when that mistake happens to you, you can just PISS OFF". -Every Police Chief Ever
Wait until you see the judgements coming from this present SCOTUS packed with conservatives who've ideologically sided with authoritarianism against the rights of the average citizen.
Mistakes are ok. But bringing someone home and then re arrest them again is no mistake it’s a cover up!
@@vjcodec wrong he was arrested while driving by cop beck home stop lying.
When regular citizens make a mistake they get ticketed or arrested unlike police who make “mistakes”
That 14 year old boy in a cop costume should not be allowed to arrest people. He is dangerously incompetent.
That’s a 14 year old girl dressing as a 14 year old boy.
I mean he did everything right, and treated them with respect, he simply made a mistake when it came to the guys identity due to the confusing scenario at hand.
1. The dude at Walmart was certain it was the dude they had recently trespassed.
2. The dude admitted to having had a trespass order in the past.
3. He responded to Cody.
Transgenders can look 14
@@anarkhos6506 1. He was NOT certain, as he "avoided eye contact".
@@garcommedia2771 😄
She keeps saying he should be ashamed, but the funny part is is people are so quick to point the fingers at the police instead of the ones who called the cops on you in the first place, if I had a Karen call the police on me for being too loud. I wouldn’t blame the police if they tried to arrest me.