I’ll never understand why it’s specifically legal for cops to “make mistakes”, be ignorant of the law, etc but not citizens. Why are citizens held to a higher standard than those who enforce the law?
If a civilian is scared in the interaction, they must calmly comply. If an officer is scared in the interaction, they can discharge their weapon because they fear for their safety. An early constitutional role of police was to capture and return escaped slaves. [US Constitution, Art IV, Sec 2, Cl 3]
Because with that standard, the average cop would have to have a significantly higher IQ, which would necessitate a significantly higher salary, which wouldn't work economically. It's on citizens to understand that cops aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and to adjust their behavior and interactions accordingly
In the old days when citizens would Witness a person's rights being violated in every way imaginable before cameras were readily available all witnesses to a particular incident would just be explained away as they are civilians and not trained professionals and did not see what they saw or what the officers saw. So their witness testimony would be worth absolutely nothing. I don't know if anybody has noticed but they no longer yell out stop resisting stop resisting! That practice was stopped because of all the cameras that would show there was no resisting. Usually they would if they had the backup and bodies to cover up the individual so visual sight of the subject was not seen or obscured then the stop resisting yells would start. And then the brutality would commence.
Before cameras this guy would be dead or rotting in a jail cell on false charges, when the police realized they had the wrong guy, they would have lied and trumped up charges.
@@Censorthisbananahamock I would have stopped my investigation pretty much immediately after seeing the reading materials. Burglars don't steal books and are not in general as well read as this person was. Unfortunately all I saw was skin color arms and legs and immediately started to plan their attack.
All the time when I see those movies from the pigs my blood starts boiling because these morans are so stupid and it’s always the same, but no brain no pain by these clowns.
Jamaal says “you guys are ridiculous.” One of arresting cops replies “yeah! We are ridiculous.” What a corrupt bunch of tyrant clowns. I hope they were all fired but seems like their bosses thought they did a great job and violated no “department policies”. Outrageous
"We've investigated ourselves and found that not only did we do nothing wrong, we did everything correctly and we are all absolute heroes and legends who deserve raises and promotions." - Every internal affairs investigation, ever.
They knew they were wrong from the start. Any adult with a fully working brain would know a criminal who just robbed someone won’t sit half a mile down the road. It would be nice if fbi treated these police officers like this. Pull rank and yank them out their cars
They cleared him as a suspect and they still charged him. Think about that. He was there eating his lunch and minding his own business and wondering what he was going to do the rest of the day when all of a sudden, he was thrown in jail. And why? Because he wanted his rights intact. Disgusting, these cops.
That’s what irritates me the most, the fact that they will still take you to jail even after they know they are in the wrong. That’s why I’d do everything in my power to make them regret it
Jamaal says “you guys are ridiculous.” One of arresting cops replies “yeah! We are ridiculous.” What a corrupt bunch of tyrant clowns. I hope they were all fired but seems like their bosses thought they did a great job and violated no “department policies”. Outrageous
He's desperately trying to create a situational narrative where he can become 'scared', so he can have an excuse to mag dump his Glok into someone. The 'penalty' is a free, paid vacation! aka paid administrative leave.
With body cams being more common now, I’d go so far as to say ANY accusations/statements or threats made by a cop that the video clearly shows the opposite (like this one), results in immediate termination. No questions asked after that. “You’re a law enforcement officer, your body cam SHOWS a situation where your words CLEARLY lie… you can’t be trusted to ever tell the truth and therefore MUST be fired”. Or some similar statement like that. Written into policy, non negotiable and unions CANNOT file a grievance to. Period. Plus it should automatically strip qualified immunity! Cops like this are disgusting and our society has NO place for them, they’re nothing more than lying criminals themselves. A badge doesn’t change that… SHOULDN’T change that!!
thats stupid. Dude was resisting, thats on him. He may not have been "aggressive" but he certainly was resisting. You should have ZERO "fear for you life" if you dont act stupid and just comply with the officer's commands as you are legally required to, even if you dont think theyre entirely justified. Everyone knows you dont fight this shit on the side of the road, you fight it in court, and resisting is just going to make everything harder on yourself, and make your court case far weaker. If he had just stepped out of the car when requested this never wouldve gotten violent in the first place. Ive had multiple interactions with cops on the side of the road that Im not proud of but never once did I resist, I followed their orders and everything went smoothly, I even got let off with warnings when the violations were minor. I never for a millisecond was afraid in any way, definitely not for my life, thats insane. Show me a single arrest video where the arrestee was completely calm and followed all orders and yet still for some reason the cops were super violent to the point where the person shouldve rightly feared for their lives. Youre gonna be looking for a looooonnnngggg time, good luck with that. (edit: that being said, Im not supporting the cops either, they were definitely in the wrong here, but like AtA said at 17:50 "his interests wouldve been served if he had immediately complied". Instead of getting a small settlement out of that court case he probably wouldve straight won it if he hadnt put up the resistance he did.)
@@SpydersByte Your rant was irrelevant, respectfully. My comment was about the officer blatantly lying about the citizen being aggressive to escalate use of force.
Well they would have to answer if the person involved filed a civil rights complaint . It’s very easy . It cost $402 at your local federal district court 🥱🤔 if you hire an attorney you will spend thousands!
Were gonna arrest you for something, then if it turns out you were innocent, we will just arrest you for something else. There is no such thing as innocent
Right they CREATED the situation for him to resist then be arrested, they do this all the time by talking shit and agitating people so they get angry and hostile so they can charge them with disorderly conduct or some other obstruction or bullshit charge, these guys play GOD and can do whatever they want to whoever they want and kill people with no consequences, they scare the shit out of me anytime in around them cuz I've been manhandled myself once or twice for no reason EXAMPLE 1. an officer asked me to get my ID out of my purse when I reached for it he grabbed my hair and hood and threw me onto the pavement kneeling on my neck and back justifying it by saying he didn't know what I was reaching for and felt unsafe) 😂 CLOWN WORLD FTP
Thank you for acknowledging how the officers were pulling him both directions when removing him from the car. When I first saw that, I was like "wooow, which way you want him to go dude?"
@@rogusmith2630 i don't think that would be the reason. a cop's job is pretty hard as it is. if you add removal of qualified immunity nobody would want o be a cop. they have so many interactions with all kinds of people, mistakes are bound to happen. i'm not saying there are not genuinely bad cops, i'm saying, that good cops can make mistakes given the number of interactions they make in a career and nobody would want the risk. i'm saying this as a guy that has an ACAB tattoo, but we have to be fair
@terrymax5340 Lt. Tri Hoang who investigated the complaint about this gentleman's treatment by the low IQ thugs in uniform, and came to the conclusion that they did nothing wrong must be demoted back to patrol officer as it is obvious that he doesn't have an 'F' ing clue as evidenced by the police paying out knowing full well they had did lots of things wrong.
i love how pulling him two different directions where the cops were playing tug of war with him is considered him resisting. modern law enforcement is a shame
When in history has this not been a thing? Many things seem amplified by rhe power of internet where we learn things aren't so common or uncommon as we thought.
Cop 1: put your hands up. Cop 2: get down on the ground. Cop 3 : walk towards me. Cop 2. Hands on your head. Cop 1: walk backwards. Cop 3: don't move. Cop 1: I said hand up. Cop 3: I said don't move. Cop 1: why aren't you walking backwards. Bang! Bang! Bang! Police report: violently resisted and failed to obey lawful commands.
Jamaal says “you guys are ridiculous.” One of arresting cops replies “yeah! We are ridiculous.” What a corrupt bunch of tyrant clowns. I hope they were all fired but seems like their bosses thought they did a great job and violated no “department policies”. Outrageous
Cause we are living in a modern police state full of corruption. The internet is just bringing it all to light now, this has been ongoing for decades. The public is finally holding them accountable because we have the video proof to show it. Before body cams this shit was more than likely running rampant in every city but no one could back it up. That's the sad reality, when it is easier to become a cop, than it is to become a teacher.....
It's mind blowing that an organization with potential legal liability is the only one allowed to investigate if something wrong happened. Of course they'll always find nothing wrong. If the internal investigation admitted to any wrongdoing, they'd basically be admitting fault in future lawsuits. It's absolutely bonkers that this system is allowed to continue but here we are.
The hierarchy, first and foremost, protects the hierarchy. What's the point of having a violent goon squad if your just going to sic those goons on themselves? You're ruled. You're owned. You're nothing but labor chattel to them, so get back to work.
Internal Investigators USED to be more than they are now. They did used to be a force that Policed the Police. However, within the past decade, they've defended cops. Corruption begets corruption, and honestly, I think of Cops as Nazis. Because like the Nazis, the same laws the REST of us have to abide by, Cops can get away with ignoring. Cops are allowed to commit murder the same way Nazis were. There was no justifications and they were protected by Hitler. The same way Cops are protected by Judges and the Justice System. So, what exactly is there, to differentiate a cop from a Nazi? There is none I can think of. Nazis tortured their victims, the same ways Cops torture their victims. The US is BROKEN.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, unless you're a cop. This is the definition of "qualified immunity." Always love when the department gets to investigate itself and, shockingly, finds nothing wrong.
It’s because of Qualified immunity that they don’t even bother to get a proper description of the burglar. They just see a black man and that’s good enough for them because of no accountability for screwing up.
While the tax payers are (yet again), responsible for the bill...Rinse/Repeat, while our elected "officials) (yeah, right!!!) ALWAYS betray the people that voted for them..."I will fix THIS; I will fix THAT..." No, you will lie to get the job, then not do anything you promised...
Yep. It’s absolutely DISGUSTING what tyrant 🐷 get away with. Absolutely appalling. I know Colorado got rid of QI, idk if other states have as well but The rest of the country needs to do the exact same thing!
Meanwhile while these 6 or 8 cops detain this citizen on a hunch, the real suspect is getting further away. Since the cops were wrong, they have to drum up some charges to cover their arses. Great policing
Bro, they don't wanna find the real suspect. They know the real suspect could present a real danger, and they're cowards, so they just purposely go after innocent people to waste as much time as possible.
Eating lunch while black, in your car, in the park. "You match the description". Just absolute amazing overreach by this deputy. Not even one normal word of engagement. The deputy had already assumed this innocent guy to be the likely suspect without any legitimate observations to support it. Only the color of his skin.
Imagine having a (unjust) criminal charge, which could land you in prison, dangling out there for almost an entire year. Imagine being denied employment because a background check shows an arrest & pending criminal charge. Imagine losing your job because of the arrest & criminal charge. Imagine losing custody of your kids because of it. All thanks to the documented gang members of LASD.
I agree. An employer won't know the circumstances of an arrest and pending charges. They just have to take your word, but that's hard to do since you now have an arrest record and your reputation is in the toilet.
@@Bl00dMalice..lots stays on your record for at least as long as they keep the BS charges alive in their system (part of their “lesson” given to the pesky Citizen). And most jurisdictions do NOT automatically expunge every single arrest. I have read many stories about pro who had to pay a lawyer to help them compel the LEO Dept to expunge their record.
The departments support of the officers' actions in this event gives a clear signal they can do ANYTHING they want to ANYONE. Meanwhile, of course they needed to pile on false charges to justify this sickening behaviour.
Meanwhile, the robber is standing across the street laughing with his stolen goods while they pull this innocent guy out of his car. Black, around 20 is entirely too vague to be treating people like this. He didn’t match a description, just the skin color.
There's an old saying in law enforcement ,pick him up,dust him off, apologize, explain your actions and pray you don't get the come to the station now call. Sometimes an explanation and talking to folks with respect goes a long way.
Instead of going after actual criminals, these officers identify the most innocent person around and harass him, illegally detain/arrest him, illegally search his car, and file trumped up charges against him. Cowards.
Of course they do. They wouldn't want to spend their time working i.e. RUNNING after a man on foot. Or potentially putting themselves in danger going after a real criminal. Its much easier to hide their cowardice by harassing a law abiding citizen.
Cops in the US make it impossible for law abiding citizens to live peacefully. They purposefully destroy innocent lives, almost for sport, while criminals run free and unbothered
Basic human psychology is to pull away when someone lays their hands on them. Yet cops routinely use this as an argument that a suspect was resist arrest.
@amelliamendel2227 those cops aren't allowed to just open your fucking door. And also how can he comply when he is being pulled in 2 different directions?
@@ForBraig I didn’t feel it was necessary to point out he was being pulled in 2 directions because 1. You can clearly see it in the video and 2. The narrator explicitly talks about it.
It should be illegal to arrest someone on resisting arrest or other bogus charges after it was determined that they were not the individual in question.
The people are also paying for the "investigation," which isn't a good value when it's actually just research into whether or not the department thinks they can get away with it.
I'll never say someone else is "WRONG" for accepting a payday for their trouble.... BUT in order to hold cops accountable....people are going to have to stop taking "settlements" and continue on with the lawsuit to create case law....this will put a dent in Qualified Immunity.
It's mind blowing that an organization with potential legal liability is the only one allowed to investigate if something wrong happened. Of course they'll always find nothing wrong. If the internal investigation admitted to any wrongdoing, they'd basically be admitting fault in future lawsuits. It's absolutely bonkers that this system is allowed to continue but here we are.
If a black kid was seen running from YOUR HOUSE & you bumped into a black kid & he got obstructive ? old bill go on intel ,the intel said a "Black fella " no more , wrong place wrong time .But this "You Tube reply system " motorists take just aint gonna end well is it :/ Given this kid did nothing wrong i wish him all the best .Your laws are as mental as the UK
that and the fact it took over a year for the charges to be dropped. That man could lose so much over their mistake. Thats why i'm all for big lawsuits
Kind of like police shootings where the following occurs: Officer # 1 GET ON THE GROUND! Officer # 2 DON'T MOVE! Officer # 3 PUT YOUR HANDS UP! Police review board: we did nothing wrong shooting him, he didn't obey the officer
You can clearly tell two seconds into the encounter with this man he had no clue what you were talking about, and that he was innocent of anything you’re about to do to him
If I was eating lunch and two armed men came into my car and started pulling me, I would freak out. This gentleman is so level headed for the situation
While 6 patrol units and - at least - 10 or 12 officers are tied up detaining the obviously wrong individual, the actual suspect is doing a runner with no one looking for him...great use of police resources.
jesus christ. he literally starts to get out of the car, then the officer behind him pulls him back in the seat and wraps his arm around his arm while telling him to get out of the car. how the hell is he supposed to get out when he has an entire person wrapped around him?
That's the whole point. Policing 101... always escalate every encounter. The more practiced technique is to yell "stop resisting" as they tear all the ligaments in your elbows.
@@mx-deadz and they cannot be trusted. Dog the bounty Hunter found somebody that the FBI we're looking for that couldn't find the guy in 6 months. Dog found him in one afternoon
That NEVER happens, just know when they say they will do an “investigation by an impartial third party” that means one of the chief of the department’s buddies that works for another department comes in and sweeps it up for them. Tyrants. All of them.
Especially considering the only charactaristic the man shared with the robbery suspect was that he was black. They never bothered to check his age and never apologized (as far as I know) for their actions or for wasting this man's time.
The same thing happened to me. I was held at gunpoint by the police because I "fit the description," and when the victim came to the scene, he said I looked nothing like what he described; he even apologized to me. The cops didn't care and tried to leave without apologizing until I pulled out a big professional camera I used to film a short story earlier that day, and then all of a sudden one got out of his car to apologize.
same happened to me i had a 03 malibu (very popular car cause of the price range) and got pulled over because there was an armed robbery and they were in a malibu ... my car was running hot so i pulled over to let it cool off and add water. i noticed the was a cop on one end of the street was watchig and there was another on the other end soon as i got in to pull off 6 cars pulled up and detained me without telig me why then i hear over the radio they had the guy they just tossed my dl and pulled off with out telling me anything
I'm glad everything turned out good for you, however, the victim probably did not describe the suspect in full, you probably wore clothe similar to what the victim described, hence, blaming the officers for that mistake is wrong on your part because you can't justify any wrongdoing,
4:44 Dude was complying and getting out until he heard "he's being aggressive" you could see the shock, confusion and fear in his eyes as he sits back down.
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
Not only that, but he was still taken to jail. But the worst part is perhaps that they did both those things to attempt to justify what they'd done prior.
The internal investigation shows the officers did “nothing” wrong. Yet they settle !!! The investigations need to be independent and their findings made public !!! Eliminate the buddy system and provide transparency !!
It's mind blowing that an organization with potential legal liability is the only one allowed to investigate if something wrong happened. Of course they'll always find nothing wrong. If the internal investigation admitted to any wrongdoing, they'd basically be admitting fault in future lawsuits. It's absolutely bonkers that this system is allowed to continue but here we are.
@@winstonwolf6791 Very true, it is likely the best solution for all parties from a financial perspective. Even if, as you believe, it would be a slam dunk case, the only winners would be the lawyers.
if they had the actual burglary suspect i can see why they might need a few more, but they’ve clearly got nothing else going on, they’re gonna get this guy, bring him to the station, then slowly do their paperwork in the AC
I'm Just answering the question - not saying I agree with the behavior. In their minds they could have been trying to arrest a criminal. I don't know if the burglary was via armed or not. So, THEORETICALLY they could have been acting with the belive that he was violent. Don't get mad at me. I'm just saying what it COULD be. I'm not...AM NOT saying they were correct.
On the grade for the officers, you missed a major detail: They continued to ask questions even after a Lawyer was requested. You CANNOT do that as a L.E.O. If a Lawyer is requested, questioning MUST STOP.
1:46 That poor mans face....he is absolutely terrfied. And its 10000% justified. Wow. You can see the fear in his eyes. So distressing to watch let alone be in his shoes.
Imagine the stress of having potentially 1 year in jail and $10k fine hanging over your head for a year. Even totally innocent people cave and plead guilty or no contest to a much lesser charge for community service while still paying $$$ to the courts and basically eliminating their ability to sue.
I would never settle if this happened to me. I would demand a public apology and admission of wrongdoing. Boils your blood to see how inept officers are at their jobs.
Good for you if your comfortable in life to fight something like this. But Think critically here. Not everyone can turn down what’s probably several hundred thousand dollars that he can change his life with OR he can pay lawyers fees for YEARS just to POSSIBLY get a judgment that taxes and lawyers will take most of anyway.
@@amelliamendel2227 They can have what they would take. I’ve lived my entire life of very little means. I think I’d get by. This is all hypothetical anyway. I’m just talking.
No more "undisclosed amounts". This is taxpayer money and must be made public. Also, the city should in turn sue the individual officers, on behalf of taxpayers, for their professional errors.
Hey, if there's an opportunity to be uncooperative and provoke officers into a civil liberties trap to sue and turn a tidy profit, what do you think people will do? Surely, being cooperative is just too much to ask.
How sickening is this? Poor guy, sitting eating his lunch, and these TYRANTS COME, and drag him out of his car! That’s the problem with these Tyrants! Anyone, with black skin, and a red shirt, within a quarter mile, is a suspect!!!! Something has to change in this country.
@@squirrelleader771correct. The racist cop lied and said he matched the description of the suspect based only on the fact he was black. Racism doesn't get more obvious than that.
this is genuinely so sad, it’s so clear that he’s just confused and scared, and the officers did literally nothing to address this and have a calm discussion and explain what’s going on when they confirmed he wasn’t a threat. they could’ve handled this so much better and it sucks that nothing is ever done to retrain or remove officers in these situations.
Any IA officer or police board official who determines "Officers were justified" should be included as defendants if the issue goes to court. Things have got to change.
We legally can't though. Police are effectively untouchable since they widely help elect judges, mayors, politicans, and can use the state for their legal battles. And even if we did gain momentum legally guess who's gonna declare there's a "riot" going on and go in guns blazing again? What we need is to completely dissolve our current policing system entirely and use that funding to create specialized departments seperate from each other to actually help serve the public. Like ones who specialize in mental health crisis situations, departments that specialize in hostile situations involving active shooters, etc. All we have is a legalized gang who can lie, steal, and harm for any reason and face absolutely no punishment
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…and then officers responsible are considered to have done a great job even though Jamaal was found not to be the suspect they wanted. They still detain him, then charge him for resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
A few months ago I really thought that if I haven’t done anything wrong, I didn’t have to worry that much about the police. Then I started watching this and other channels like Lackluster, etc. My view has changed drastically.
“We’re all recording, we all have cameras…” says the cop.. Recordings that can be turned off, physically covered with our hands and recordings that can be lost or withheld from the public at our direction….
I find it funny the cops got frustrated that he said that when they are the ones that escalated the situation. The cops start trying to get him with resisting when he's still processing why the hell two cops are already opening and searching his car. Most peopke will resist until they are given a good reason and a moment to compose themselves to understand whats going on. They didnt like the fact that he was about to comply, but only after he decided to start recording it.
@@_Clayton.Bigsby_ I saw a case yesterday where a police union bailed a cop out for 50 grand after he literally shot someone two times with their hands up, and then drug them around on their belly until they died
The cops' initial hostility is the factor that caused this stop to go wrong. Politeness breeds the same. Hostility evokes hostility. Mr. Williams showed considerable restraint in his language considering the cops' initial demeanor.
yea like imagine some random ass mf running up on you and pulling you out of your car. and your the "bad guy" for not wanting that to happen. they dont tell you anything. they just open your door and start forcing you out randomly.
@@alexanderredhorse1297 Im not completely behind the cops on this one but youre wrong about "they dont tell you anything". They very clearly said they were investigating a burglary. I can understand that, to the guy in the car, this was all very random and more forceful than it needed to be but anyone who resists like he did are being stupid and hurting their own case. If he had just complied as youre required to when police are detaining you this wouldve went 1000x smoother, he wouldnt have gotten tossed onto the pavement, and he'd have a very strong case against them. You dont fight this shit on the side of the road, everyone should know this. If the cops order you out of your car then get out, refusing and resisting is not going to help you in the slightest and theyre not just going to give up if you say no.
@@SpydersBytehe was being cooperative tho. He asked to wait so he could pull out his home and then was getting out until the other officer started pulling him from the side at which point he sat back down and was deemed aggressive
@@SpydersByteAgreed. The guy made his situation much worse by resisting. Like a lot of these cases featured on the channel, if people cooperated they would be much better off. But of course, there's always a nice chance of suing and making a tidy sum.
@@Bl00dMalice”just comply” isn’t something you can ask of people. This is how you get your rights violated. Cops are not there to protect you. They are there to arrest you.
What’s infuriating with so many of these encounters is when police unequivocally know a “suspect” is completely innocent but they still proceed to arrest because they feel disrespected.
Throwing up a resisting charge on a dude who literally didn't have time to realize what was really going on is petty. God forbid an innocent man trying to do the right thing as best he can
It would be ideal. But I'm guessing a good chunk of all the cases across the US would be thrown out and cities would go bankrupt from all the people suing for restitution lol.
But, as ATA went to great lengths to explain - resisting can be a legal offense even if Subject is innocent. And it’s almost never cut & dry. So to stake your liberty, livelihood, and even your life on the legal coin flip as to whether your resistance will be ruled legal is a big ask.
You know how when you hear a word too many times, it loses all meaning? The phrase "the police investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing" is like that. 😒
@@I.____.....__...__it was true. Any of these guys charged for their illegal actions? Has anyone been fired for their cowardice / incompetence? Nope. They investigated themselves and found no wrongdoings.
Especially when the cops created the situation that he got arrested for. They shouldn't have even been psychical with him. Do a little investigating before going hands on. Terrible police
The cops don't care. They know any lawsuits will be settled out of court. Their department and township will pay off anyone filing a lawsuit, at the tax payers expenses. It's a joke
Insane to search the vehicle AFTER the cops are on camera acknowledging this was not the burglary suspect. How can they justify the legality of said search!?
@@gingw7333The body cams may have prevented that, but man even with the cams they do some dirty shit, except now they're super polite verbally as they physically manhandle you.
Grew up in Palmdale, in LASD contract city. They are one of the most corrupt agencies in the country and doesn't get anywhere near enough press for it. Former sheriff literally went to prison for being a corrupt POS. If anyone wants their skin to crawl Google "LASD gangs."
Yes bro !! I posted a comment on this vid on my thoughts about them! They always come at you with an aggressive approach first. Terrible people. They sound dumb these days. I miss the old deputies I used to see growing up. Now these are just clowns. Those dudes that hung around gangs as a kid but didn't join because they were afraid of their moms.
I love how the courts seem to be supporting the use of the taser as a cattle prod, it is no longer a defensive weapon like it was always supposed to be.
So lemme get this straight - "I don't answer questions" constitutes a continued threat that warrants leaving the cuffs on!?! Sounds like retaliation to me.
"I don't answer questions" stirs up many cops. "I'm invoking my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent" doesn't hit them quite the same. So I was told by a defense attorney whose kid was friends with mine. Dude has a lot of successes and a reputation as the go-to guy especially when it's detaining/arresting cops who are the problem.
Who in the right mind could and would stay calm when being falsely accused and handcuffed while having lunch in their car. We're not even allowed to scream injustice anymore without needing a lawyer to prove it.
@@SB-mr2nkIn a normal interaction yes, this type of situation happens far less than a normal traffic stop. As someone that's been apart of several stops where two cops give completely different commands and different questions, it's very stressful. Especially since at best you're ending up in cuffs or at least sore for a wrong movement or answer.
17:33 "But, instead of making use of the wide array of investigative methods available to them, the deputies immediately accelerated their conduct to aggressive detention and intimidation." This is a perfect summary of the cop mantra of "act before you think."
@@cherylmcelveen2817Whose boots have you been licking? If you went through the same ordeal as the gentleman in this video, you might change your mind.
@@3trilogy You misunderstood their comment. They meant that the system was INTENDED to be corrupt. The government, the courts, and the police all work together for their own benefit at the expense of the rest of society, they all rub each others' backs. (Yes, I said rub, not scratch.)
*"Resisting" claims should automatically turn in to a charge for the officers when they're clearly visible on camera pulling a stationary person in opposite directions at the same time. If they haven't even decided yet where they're trying to move the stationary person to yet then the only excuse to be touching them at all is if they're visibly trying to reach a weapon or an object that can't be seen and therefore could possibly be a gun.*
While I normally agree with your grades, I can’t give this man a B+. You always state that you should never give up your rights and I feel he did everything he should have done to do so. The pigs were far too aggressive for him to have a chance to explain due to them immediately attacking him. A+ for him. F for the pigs, obviously.
It should be illegal to investigate themselves. I think we need some public committees that review these cases. People who are versed in Constitutional rights
They always want to charge you with "resisting arrest" and "obstruction of justice" or "disorderly conduct" or "failure to ID" but what did they do to get those charges to begin with because they weren't charged with anything else but those things.
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
We need a separate justice system where an INDEPENDENT body prosecutes police. And every officer convicted needs to serve 5x the sentence any other person would get for the same crime.
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Thank you!
You're too good for us, can you ever forgive us for seeing those other channels when you weren't around?
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 pushing limits is not the same as crossing them.
If you're guilty, you need a lawyer. If you're innocent, you REALLY need a lawyer
If you are poor and black that won't help you either.
@@jamieh4148 It obviously did in this case.
He didn't get a dump truck public defender
Oh the classic unarmed innocent black man. “Not”
@@Sinister_fartboxwhat’s wrong with you?
I’ll never understand why it’s specifically legal for cops to “make mistakes”, be ignorant of the law, etc but not citizens. Why are citizens held to a higher standard than those who enforce the law?
GREAT comment spooky. The answer is: those who make the rules don't have to FOLLOW the rules.
Because it is convenient for the state to do so. The state prefers to not take responsibility for the actions of its servants, our masters.
If a civilian is scared in the interaction, they must calmly comply. If an officer is scared in the interaction, they can discharge their weapon because they fear for their safety.
An early constitutional role of police was to capture and return escaped slaves. [US Constitution, Art IV, Sec 2, Cl 3]
The doctrine of the king can do no wrong. It's a real legal theory behind immunity
Because with that standard, the average cop would have to have a significantly higher IQ, which would necessitate a significantly higher salary, which wouldn't work economically. It's on citizens to understand that cops aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and to adjust their behavior and interactions accordingly
It's becoming amazingly obvious that before the camera phone cops were violating citizens rights at will with absolutely no consequences.
Makes one think about all those "bad" kids from our childhood, that say they are innocent and say the cops are wrong; doesn't it ???
This is how they behave while being recorded, in a society where cameras are everywhere.
In the old days when citizens would Witness a person's rights being violated in every way imaginable before cameras were readily available all witnesses to a particular incident would just be explained away as they are civilians and not trained professionals and did not see what they saw or what the officers saw. So their witness testimony would be worth absolutely nothing. I don't know if anybody has noticed but they no longer yell out stop resisting stop resisting! That practice was stopped because of all the cameras that would show there was no resisting. Usually they would if they had the backup and bodies to cover up the individual so visual sight of the subject was not seen or obscured then the stop resisting yells would start. And then the brutality would commence.
Before cameras this guy would be dead or rotting in a jail cell on false charges, when the police realized they had the wrong guy, they would have lied and trumped up charges.
@@Censorthisbananahamock I would have stopped my investigation pretty much immediately after seeing the reading materials. Burglars don't steal books and are not in general as well read as this person was. Unfortunately all I saw was skin color arms and legs and immediately started to plan their attack.
The fact that the Lieutenant investigated and found nothing wrong has my blood boiling.
It's pretty normal, that's why they need a civilian oversight board. Ask why the state doesn't require it.
It’s Los Angeles county they all hide behind the bigger person lol
All the time when I see those movies from the pigs my blood starts boiling because these morans are so stupid and it’s always the same, but no brain no pain by these clowns.
Jamaal says “you guys are ridiculous.” One of arresting cops replies “yeah! We are ridiculous.” What a corrupt bunch of tyrant clowns. I hope they were all fired but seems like their bosses thought they did a great job and violated no “department policies”. Outrageous
You can’t trust a police with name Tri Hoang. He’s probably a runaway triad from his country.
We really need to stop having cops investigate other cops.
"We've investigated ourselves and found that not only did we do nothing wrong, we did everything correctly and we are all absolute heroes and legends who deserve raises and promotions." - Every internal affairs investigation, ever.
@frocat5163 it's weird how that happens all the time. It's almost like they're biased against themselves.
Isn’t there IA meant to do that? Why is that not happening?
@@laurenjones9924 Why don't cops thoroughly investigate other cops? Is that a question you're legitimately asking?
for real is fucked up thats like letting us choose who we want as our jurors when in trial
They treated him like he was guilty from the start. When they realized that they were wrong, the pressed charges anyways. Pure evil 😈 . 😠 😡 👿 😤 🤬 😾
Thats vermin for you, euh I mean cops. Then again, whats the difference.
They knew they were wrong from the start. Any adult with a fully working brain would know a criminal who just robbed someone won’t sit half a mile down the road. It would be nice if fbi treated these police officers like this. Pull rank and yank them out their cars
@@spookyreaper1702I agree with someone needs to do the same to them but the FBI is just as bad if not worse
They must be stopped
THAT'S THE GOOD OLE' BOI NETWORK !!!
You can see the terror in that man's face, what a shame 😡
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They cleared him as a suspect and they still charged him. Think about that. He was there eating his lunch and minding his own business and wondering what he was going to do the rest of the day when all of a sudden, he was thrown in jail. And why? Because he wanted his rights intact.
Disgusting, these cops.
That’s what irritates me the most, the fact that they will still take you to jail even after they know they are in the wrong. That’s why I’d do everything in my power to make them regret it
Jamaal says “you guys are ridiculous.” One of arresting cops replies “yeah! We are ridiculous.” What a corrupt bunch of tyrant clowns. I hope they were all fired but seems like their bosses thought they did a great job and violated no “department policies”. Outrageous
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When an officer says "He's being aggressive" when you're indeed not being aggressive, its time to fear for your life
He's desperately trying to create a situational narrative where he can become 'scared', so he can have an excuse to mag dump his Glok into someone.
The 'penalty' is a free, paid vacation! aka paid administrative leave.
With body cams being more common now, I’d go so far as to say ANY accusations/statements or threats made by a cop that the video clearly shows the opposite (like this one), results in immediate termination. No questions asked after that. “You’re a law enforcement officer, your body cam SHOWS a situation where your words CLEARLY lie… you can’t be trusted to ever tell the truth and therefore MUST be fired”. Or some similar statement like that. Written into policy, non negotiable and unions CANNOT file a grievance to. Period. Plus it should automatically strip qualified immunity! Cops like this are disgusting and our society has NO place for them, they’re nothing more than lying criminals themselves. A badge doesn’t change that… SHOULDN’T change that!!
thats stupid. Dude was resisting, thats on him. He may not have been "aggressive" but he certainly was resisting. You should have ZERO "fear for you life" if you dont act stupid and just comply with the officer's commands as you are legally required to, even if you dont think theyre entirely justified. Everyone knows you dont fight this shit on the side of the road, you fight it in court, and resisting is just going to make everything harder on yourself, and make your court case far weaker. If he had just stepped out of the car when requested this never wouldve gotten violent in the first place.
Ive had multiple interactions with cops on the side of the road that Im not proud of but never once did I resist, I followed their orders and everything went smoothly, I even got let off with warnings when the violations were minor. I never for a millisecond was afraid in any way, definitely not for my life, thats insane. Show me a single arrest video where the arrestee was completely calm and followed all orders and yet still for some reason the cops were super violent to the point where the person shouldve rightly feared for their lives. Youre gonna be looking for a looooonnnngggg time, good luck with that.
(edit: that being said, Im not supporting the cops either, they were definitely in the wrong here, but like AtA said at 17:50 "his interests wouldve been served if he had immediately complied". Instead of getting a small settlement out of that court case he probably wouldve straight won it if he hadnt put up the resistance he did.)
@@SpydersByte Your rant was irrelevant, respectfully. My comment was about the officer blatantly lying about the citizen being aggressive to escalate use of force.
he was being aggressive. and he was actively resisting.
I absolutely HATE the fact that police officers get to do this to people and not have to answer for it.
My blood pressure is spiking.
Well they would have to answer if the person involved filed a civil rights complaint . It’s very easy . It cost $402 at your local federal district court 🥱🤔 if you hire an attorney you will spend thousands!
It's as maddening a fact of reality as there is in this world.
@@bossman1699i love that you say that as though it’s completely reasonable for someone to pay hundreds because cops don’t know how to behave
A piano teacher? So this poor guy had more talent and knowledge in his mind/fingers than these cops could ever hope to achieve in their entire bodies?
If cops themselves had to pay for all these settlements they would quickly learn the law
exactly right.. any time unlawful act gets done by pigs,, they should pay the compensation from Own Pocket.. then the tyranny will stop
Paychecks definitely need to be garnished when the cops involved are found guilty.
Charge the police unions.
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Police pension fund should pay.
Every cop in that city showed up to “capture” the wrong guy, while the the real criminal goes free!! SMH!
Did you expect any other out from bottom feeders like this
They are too scared to confront actual criminals.
But they are just trying to keep us safe! If they shackled all of us, we would have true safety.
The guy is in leg restraints why do they even need backup? Does it take 20 cops to take down a piano teacher? The incompetence is unreal.
Did they ever even get the supposed criminals? Was there even actually a suspect for him to match the description of? Frankly I doubt it.
Were gonna arrest you for something, then if it turns out you were innocent, we will just arrest you for something else. There is no such thing as innocent
And in the meantime, they forgot why they were there, abandoned their search, and let the actual perp get away. 😒
"There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt."
"You are guilty until proven guilty."
Right they CREATED the situation for him to resist then be arrested, they do this all the time by talking shit and agitating people so they get angry and hostile so they can charge them with disorderly conduct or some other obstruction or bullshit charge, these guys play GOD and can do whatever they want to whoever they want and kill people with no consequences, they scare the shit out of me anytime in around them cuz I've been manhandled myself once or twice for no reason EXAMPLE 1. an officer asked me to get my ID out of my purse when I reached for it he grabbed my hair and hood and threw me onto the pavement kneeling on my neck and back justifying it by saying he didn't know what I was reaching for and felt unsafe) 😂 CLOWN WORLD FTP
Thank you for acknowledging how the officers were pulling him both directions when removing him from the car. When I first saw that, I was like "wooow, which way you want him to go dude?"
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Qualified Immunity needs to be removed for any civil rights violations .
Unfortunately, qualified immunity was created specifically for when they do violate your rights.
they will never end immunity then police couldn't do whatever they wanted with no repercussions
If you want a lawless society, end qualified immunity. Police are afraid to police as it is. It’s all over once their immunity is gone.
@@rogusmith2630 i don't think that would be the reason. a cop's job is pretty hard as it is. if you add removal of qualified immunity nobody would want o be a cop. they have so many interactions with all kinds of people, mistakes are bound to happen. i'm not saying there are not genuinely bad cops, i'm saying, that good cops can make mistakes given the number of interactions they make in a career and nobody would want the risk. i'm saying this as a guy that has an ACAB tattoo, but we have to be fair
@terrymax5340
Lt. Tri Hoang who investigated the complaint about this gentleman's treatment by the low IQ thugs in uniform, and came to the conclusion that they did nothing wrong must be demoted back to patrol officer as it is obvious that he doesn't have an 'F' ing clue as evidenced by the police paying out knowing full well they had did lots of things wrong.
We investigated ourselves and cleared ourselves of any wrongdoing
Exactly what they did.
Surprise Surprise
Sounds like the place where I work.
IA do this on purpose, as not to bolster the future lawsuit.
America
Scary to think that stuff like this would put innocent people in jail for YEARS before body cams.
And yet no body believed blk people until there was overwhelming video evidence....
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So true
They don't talk about this enough
The cops made another lifelong jaded enemy, meanwhile the bad guys got away…
i love how pulling him two different directions where the cops were playing tug of war with him is considered him resisting. modern law enforcement is a shame
When in history has this not been a thing? Many things seem amplified by rhe power of internet where we learn things aren't so common or uncommon as we thought.
This was really puzzling to me. What did the two fucking rocket scientists expect to happen? Disgusting.
Cop 1: put your hands up.
Cop 2: get down on the ground.
Cop 3 : walk towards me.
Cop 2. Hands on your head.
Cop 1: walk backwards.
Cop 3: don't move.
Cop 1: I said hand up.
Cop 3: I said don't move.
Cop 1: why aren't you walking backwards.
Bang! Bang! Bang!
Police report: violently resisted and failed to obey lawful commands.
Jamaal says “you guys are ridiculous.” One of arresting cops replies “yeah! We are ridiculous.” What a corrupt bunch of tyrant clowns. I hope they were all fired but seems like their bosses thought they did a great job and violated no “department policies”. Outrageous
Cause we are living in a modern police state full of corruption. The internet is just bringing it all to light now, this has been ongoing for decades. The public is finally holding them accountable because we have the video proof to show it. Before body cams this shit was more than likely running rampant in every city but no one could back it up. That's the sad reality, when it is easier to become a cop, than it is to become a teacher.....
They wanted him to comply by taking him out the car while another guy is pulling him in the car, preventing him from getting out. Unbelievable
And then they claim he's resisting and not complying .
That's typical cop work!!
Not the first time that exact behaviour has been seen on this channel, and sadly it won't be the last
the main issue was even though they knew he was not the suspect. The police officer are on camera saying he still has to go to jail
HANDS They are terrified of HANDS.
A cop that is investigating another cop, they will always stick up for the cops.
It's mind blowing that an organization with potential legal liability is the only one allowed to investigate if something wrong happened. Of course they'll always find nothing wrong. If the internal investigation admitted to any wrongdoing, they'd basically be admitting fault in future lawsuits. It's absolutely bonkers that this system is allowed to continue but here we are.
The hierarchy, first and foremost, protects the hierarchy.
What's the point of having a violent goon squad if your just going to sic those goons on themselves? You're ruled. You're owned. You're nothing but labor chattel to them, so get back to work.
Internal Investigators USED to be more than they are now. They did used to be a force that Policed the Police. However, within the past decade, they've defended cops.
Corruption begets corruption, and honestly, I think of Cops as Nazis. Because like the Nazis, the same laws the REST of us have to abide by, Cops can get away with ignoring.
Cops are allowed to commit murder the same way Nazis were. There was no justifications and they were protected by Hitler. The same way Cops are protected by Judges and the Justice System.
So, what exactly is there, to differentiate a cop from a Nazi? There is none I can think of.
Nazis tortured their victims, the same ways Cops torture their victims.
The US is BROKEN.
Not AI.. U idiot they actually want to get the cop in trouble…
Not always. But a high percentage of the time.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, unless you're a cop.
This is the definition of "qualified immunity."
Always love when the department gets to investigate itself and, shockingly, finds nothing wrong.
If you really want to define cops look up terrorist on Google. That definition fits cops to the tee. FTP
It’s because of Qualified immunity that they don’t even bother to get a proper description of the burglar. They just see a black man and that’s good enough for them because of no accountability for screwing up.
That's when you go on social media, tag them in it and blast it all over the internet. With enough attention, it'll get another look.
While the tax payers are (yet again), responsible for the bill...Rinse/Repeat, while our elected "officials) (yeah, right!!!) ALWAYS betray the people that voted for them..."I will fix THIS; I will fix THAT..." No, you will lie to get the job, then not do anything you promised...
Yep. It’s absolutely DISGUSTING what tyrant 🐷 get away with. Absolutely appalling. I know Colorado got rid of QI, idk if other states have as well but The rest of the country needs to do the exact same thing!
"NO" THEY ATTACKED HIM, THEY SHOULD BE FIRED AND JAILED.
Meanwhile while these 6 or 8 cops detain this citizen on a hunch, the real suspect is getting further away. Since the cops were wrong, they have to drum up some charges to cover their arses. Great policing
Bro, they don't wanna find the real suspect. They know the real suspect could present a real danger, and they're cowards, so they just purposely go after innocent people to waste as much time as possible.
@@ggg-ng3tmwell said 💯
They leave actual criminals alone but auditors with a camera is full defcon 3
@@ggg-ng3tmI wouldn'tve believed you if not for Uvalde. Sickening
We keep getting taught. Cops like this HATE the citizens and can't stand the law.
Eating lunch while black, in your car, in the park. "You match the description". Just absolute amazing overreach by this deputy. Not even one normal word of engagement. The deputy had already assumed this innocent guy to be the likely suspect without any legitimate observations to support it. Only the color of his skin.
Good! Maybe one day he'll learn to stop disrespecting my law enforcement and stay out my streets
@@Daxx871xxxyou a whole 🐱
@@Daxx871xxxeat dirt boot licker
I wish citizens were offered the same latitude in behavior as the law enforcement officers
Having two different standards leads to a house divided.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." A. Lincoln.
@@rrussell9731we are already divided, when government officials believe they are above the law and the citizenry, those people are the divide.
@@StewBurtTheRed that's... exactly what he's saying
That’s too scary.
That's where jury nullification comes in. Any violence toward a cop is presumed justified in my book.
Qualified immunity must be abolished and tyrants must be held accountable for their crimes against humanity
Imagine having a (unjust) criminal charge, which could land you in prison, dangling out there for almost an entire year. Imagine being denied employment because a background check shows an arrest & pending criminal charge. Imagine losing your job because of the arrest & criminal charge. Imagine losing custody of your kids because of it. All thanks to the documented gang members of LASD.
I agree. An employer won't know the circumstances of an arrest and pending charges. They just have to take your word, but that's hard to do since you now have an arrest record and your reputation is in the toilet.
Wheres the evidence that an unlawful arrest stays on your record? Surely, its able to be expunged, if so.
@@Bl00dMalice..lots stays on your record for at least as long as they keep the BS charges alive in their system (part of their “lesson” given to the pesky Citizen). And most jurisdictions do NOT automatically expunge every single arrest. I have read many stories about pro who had to pay a lawyer to help them compel the LEO Dept to expunge their record.
The tyrants investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing? How surprising.
The tyrants gave themselves raises, promotions and extra vacation days
I'm soooo glad this is a such rare occurrence.
The departments support of the officers' actions in this event gives a clear signal they can do ANYTHING they want to ANYONE.
Meanwhile, of course they needed to pile on false charges to justify this sickening behaviour.
Absolutely disgusting. The "officer" who investigated should be ashamed of himself.
At least you’re aware how the system works.
If the officer had INVESTIGATED he would have sent this citizen on his way and wished him a good day.
Meanwhile, the robber is standing across the street laughing with his stolen goods while they pull this innocent guy out of his car. Black, around 20 is entirely too vague to be treating people like this. He didn’t match a description, just the skin color.
LASD Gang Members.
Spent 30 min with this guy while the real criminal made it home safe , then they had the nerve to still take him to jail
There's an old saying in law enforcement ,pick him up,dust him off, apologize, explain your actions and pray you don't get the come to the station now call. Sometimes an explanation and talking to folks with respect goes a long way.
Instead of going after actual criminals, these officers identify the most innocent person around and harass him, illegally detain/arrest him, illegally search his car, and file trumped up charges against him.
Cowards.
Of course they do. They wouldn't want to spend their time working i.e. RUNNING after a man on foot. Or potentially putting themselves in danger going after a real criminal. Its much easier to hide their cowardice by harassing a law abiding citizen.
Right? Meanwhile the real burglars skip merrily away...
They get paid regardless
Cops in the US make it impossible for law abiding citizens to live peacefully. They purposefully destroy innocent lives, almost for sport, while criminals run free and unbothered
Cowardly....
Basic human psychology is to pull away when someone lays their hands on them. Yet cops routinely use this as an argument that a suspect was resist arrest.
Never fucking mind that he was trying to get out but was being pulled in the opposite direction by the jackass at the passenger door
One yanked him one and one yanked him the other then screams "stop resisting" pigs
That's why you don't let it get to that point just cooperate like literally.
@amelliamendel2227 those cops aren't allowed to just open your fucking door. And also how can he comply when he is being pulled in 2 different directions?
@@ForBraig I didn’t feel it was necessary to point out he was being pulled in 2 directions because 1. You can clearly see it in the video and 2. The narrator explicitly talks about it.
It should be illegal to arrest someone on resisting arrest or other bogus charges after it was determined that they were not the individual in question.
Why do that when you can cost the tax payer millions?
not to mention the guy was not actually arrested, he was being detained.
That's why the charges were dismissed.
@@user82938 eventually. It took almost a year for the charge to be dropped.
Agreed
There is a robbery to investigate, let's take our time processing this random guy. Good work boys, another day of serving an protecting
It's amazing how many times the department can find their officers did nothing wrong, but tax paying citizens still have to pay the hush money.
Imagine how much faith we would have in the Justice system if everyone could "investigate" themselves when accused of breaking a law!!!
The people are also paying for the "investigation," which isn't a good value when it's actually just research into whether or not the department thinks they can get away with it.
I'll never say someone else is "WRONG" for accepting a payday for their trouble.... BUT in order to hold cops accountable....people are going to have to stop taking "settlements" and continue on with the lawsuit to create case law....this will put a dent in Qualified Immunity.
It's mind blowing that an organization with potential legal liability is the only one allowed to investigate if something wrong happened. Of course they'll always find nothing wrong. If the internal investigation admitted to any wrongdoing, they'd basically be admitting fault in future lawsuits. It's absolutely bonkers that this system is allowed to continue but here we are.
If a black kid was seen running from YOUR HOUSE & you bumped into a black kid & he got obstructive ? old bill go on intel ,the intel said a "Black fella " no more , wrong place wrong time .But this "You Tube reply system " motorists take just aint gonna end well is it :/ Given this kid did nothing wrong i wish him all the best .Your laws are as mental as the UK
Imagine being grossly mistaken for a crime and catching a charge due to office mistake
Dont have to imagine it, we see it every day lol
that and the fact it took over a year for the charges to be dropped. That man could lose so much over their mistake. Thats why i'm all for big lawsuits
Kind of like police shootings where the following occurs:
Officer # 1 GET ON THE GROUND!
Officer # 2 DON'T MOVE!
Officer # 3 PUT YOUR HANDS UP!
Police review board: we did nothing wrong shooting him, he didn't obey the officer
You can clearly tell two seconds into the encounter with this man he had no clue what you were talking about, and that he was innocent of anything you’re about to do to him
Gee, I can't imagine why a black man in the United States in 2021 would hesitate to give in to the aggressive demands of a pack of cops.
If I was eating lunch and two armed men came into my car and started pulling me, I would freak out. This gentleman is so level headed for the situation
While 6 patrol units and - at least - 10 or 12 officers are tied up detaining the obviously wrong individual, the actual suspect is doing a runner with no one looking for him...great use of police resources.
How many burglers park up and stop for lunch instead of driving out of the area? Abolish qualified immunity NOW
Let me go ask the thieves in San Francisco, and I'll get back to you. But it will probably be around zero
The guy was basically just sitting there and cop says “he’s being aggressive.” Amazing!
That ticked me off. The one that got in on the passenger side grabbed his arm while he was getting out and kept him from grabbing his phone to record
jesus christ. he literally starts to get out of the car, then the officer behind him pulls him back in the seat and wraps his arm around his arm while telling him to get out of the car. how the hell is he supposed to get out when he has an entire person wrapped around him?
He isn't and that's by design, failure to comply which justifies an increase of force.
@@tdog652041he starts getting out and the other officer holding him down starts calling him aggressive, making him not want to comply… they escalated
That's the whole point. Policing 101... always escalate every encounter. The more practiced technique is to yell "stop resisting" as they tear all the ligaments in your elbows.
@@montezuma6962and when you pull away in agony, boom!!! That’s you on body cam “resisting”.
The "internal" investigation itself needs to be investigated. Should have been done by an outside and impartial agency
Fbi does that
@@mx-deadz and they cannot be trusted. Dog the bounty Hunter found somebody that the FBI we're looking for that couldn't find the guy in 6 months. Dog found him in one afternoon
Did you think this was a valuable comment? Are we just doing a 3 wishes sort of thing? You've been rubbing your magic lamp way too long brother
Never heard of internal affairs find anyone guilty of anything
That NEVER happens, just know when they say they will do an “investigation by an impartial third party” that means one of the chief of the department’s buddies that works for another department comes in and sweeps it up for them.
Tyrants. All of them.
There’s not one situation that a cop can’t make worse. Nothing like minding your business and getting harassed.
Especially considering the only charactaristic the man shared with the robbery suspect was that he was black. They never bothered to check his age and never apologized (as far as I know) for their actions or for wasting this man's time.
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We investigated ourselves and found ourselves guilty of no wrongdoing
Hard to exit the vehicle when one office is pulling you out and the other is pulling you back in.
Well maybe if he wasn’t resisting
/s
These cops are a joke and are idiots.
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I was trying figure that out too.
If you look again its because the cop is trying to grab his phone as soon as he goes to record
The same thing happened to me. I was held at gunpoint by the police because I "fit the description," and when the victim came to the scene, he said I looked nothing like what he described; he even apologized to me. The cops didn't care and tried to leave without apologizing until I pulled out a big professional camera I used to film a short story earlier that day, and then all of a sudden one got out of his car to apologize.
same happened to me i had a 03 malibu (very popular car cause of the price range) and got pulled over because there was an armed robbery and they were in a malibu ... my car was running hot so i pulled over to let it cool off and add water. i noticed the was a cop on one end of the street was watchig and there was another on the other end soon as i got in to pull off 6 cars pulled up and detained me without telig me why then i hear over the radio they had the guy they just tossed my dl and pulled off with out telling me anything
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I'm glad everything turned out good for you, however, the victim probably did not describe the suspect in full, you probably wore clothe similar to what the victim described, hence, blaming the officers for that mistake is wrong on your part because you can't justify any wrongdoing,
4:44 Dude was complying and getting out until he heard "he's being aggressive" you could see the shock, confusion and fear in his eyes as he sits back down.
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The biggest issue I have is even after they KNEW he wasn't the suspect that they illegally searched his car for a mask
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
Not only that, but he was still taken to jail. But the worst part is perhaps that they did both those things to attempt to justify what they'd done prior.
The internal investigation shows the officers did “nothing” wrong. Yet they settle !!! The investigations need to be independent and their findings made public !!! Eliminate the buddy system and provide transparency !!
Filing a permanent restraining order to prevent FURTHER retribution while you pursue his police certification and surety bond.. would end the "career"
It's mind blowing that an organization with potential legal liability is the only one allowed to investigate if something wrong happened. Of course they'll always find nothing wrong. If the internal investigation admitted to any wrongdoing, they'd basically be admitting fault in future lawsuits. It's absolutely bonkers that this system is allowed to continue but here we are.
It is cheaper to settle than it is to defend against a lawsuit.
@@DrSQUIRRELBOY12 Especially when you are almost guaranteed to lose. 😉
@@winstonwolf6791 Very true, it is likely the best solution for all parties from a financial perspective. Even if, as you believe, it would be a slam dunk case, the only winners would be the lawyers.
Dude...why do we honestly need all these officers for this one person???
How else would we intimidate him and violate his rights with such efficiency?
They dont have work to do
if they had the actual burglary suspect i can see why they might need a few more, but they’ve clearly got nothing else going on, they’re gonna get this guy, bring him to the station, then slowly do their paperwork in the AC
I'm Just answering the question - not saying I agree with the behavior.
In their minds they could have been trying to arrest a criminal. I don't know if the burglary was via armed or not. So, THEORETICALLY they could have been acting with the belive that he was violent. Don't get mad at me. I'm just saying what it COULD be. I'm not...AM NOT saying they were correct.
That being said..... Once he was "detained" I have NO IDEA why they CONTINUED to need that many officers. :-)
On the grade for the officers, you missed a major detail: They continued to ask questions even after a Lawyer was requested. You CANNOT do that as a L.E.O. If a Lawyer is requested, questioning MUST STOP.
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1:46 That poor mans face....he is absolutely terrfied. And its 10000% justified. Wow. You can see the fear in his eyes. So distressing to watch let alone be in his shoes.
These cops unnecessarily escalated this encounter. Keep your doors locked!
Yea keep them doors locked and your dumbest is gonna get a bullet to the head. Learn to respect law enforcement!!!!
They would have just reached in and unlocked the doors!
"These guys are ridiculous"
"Yeah we are"
They knew they were in the wrong, scum cops doing scum cop things
They don’t have to care. They are allowed to be lawless lying cowards. In fact, it’s encouraged.
Heh heh. Scum cops. That's a bit repetitive isn't it? Like tiny midgets. Rough sandpaper. Hot fire. Dark blindfold.
Cops were in the right
Imagine the stress of having potentially 1 year in jail and $10k fine hanging over your head for a year. Even totally innocent people cave and plead guilty or no contest to a much lesser charge for community service while still paying $$$ to the courts and basically eliminating their ability to sue.
This is normal n how the court system goes. It's like a casino, it's never in your favor
@@dmo848The house always wins.
Especially since he was a teacher, pending charges like this could end a career
Land of the enslaved home of the prisons for profit system
America is one of the most corrupt countries in the world
They detain and assault the wrong guy, and when they find they were wrong, they send him to jail instead. Really pathetic and gross.
I would never settle if this happened to me. I would demand a public apology and admission of wrongdoing. Boils your blood to see how inept officers are at their jobs.
Good for you if your comfortable in life to fight something like this. But Think critically here. Not everyone can turn down what’s probably several hundred thousand dollars that he can change his life with OR he can pay lawyers fees for YEARS just to POSSIBLY get a judgment that taxes and lawyers will take most of anyway.
@@methos424 Yeah, I get it. I’d like to think I’d take the settlement and then donate it in a manner that is against their interests.
Are you going to pay your lawyer with an apology?
You don’t even know how much you settle for😂
@@amelliamendel2227 They can have what they would take. I’ve lived my entire life of very little means. I think I’d get by. This is all hypothetical anyway. I’m just talking.
Cops don't become psychopaths, Psychopaths become cops.
Both can be true
No more "undisclosed amounts". This is taxpayer money and must be made public. Also, the city should in turn sue the individual officers, on behalf of taxpayers, for their professional errors.
That isn't how it works, buddy. A city/state can't sue an individual, especially not their own agents.
Hey, if there's an opportunity to be uncooperative and provoke officers into a civil liberties trap to sue and turn a tidy profit, what do you think people will do? Surely, being cooperative is just too much to ask.
@@barbarianandyare they really considered individuals when they are employed by the people/for the people?
@@420frankpyes
@@420frankp are you one of those morons that takes "public servant" literally
Imagine getting arrested because a crime was committed half a mile away
How sickening is this? Poor guy, sitting eating his lunch, and these TYRANTS COME, and drag him out of his car! That’s the problem with these Tyrants! Anyone, with black skin, and a red shirt, within a quarter mile, is a suspect!!!! Something has to change in this country.
Only change needed in the USA is Violent Revolution .Then this sh*it might stop .
Refund the police
Lol, it wasn't even the right color shirt! Only thing they had on him was that he was black!
I saw a video of a guy eating his Taco Bell in his car. Cops came along and shackled and caged him.
@@squirrelleader771correct. The racist cop lied and said he matched the description of the suspect based only on the fact he was black. Racism doesn't get more obvious than that.
this is genuinely so sad, it’s so clear that he’s just confused and scared, and the officers did literally nothing to address this and have a calm discussion and explain what’s going on when they confirmed he wasn’t a threat. they could’ve handled this so much better and it sucks that nothing is ever done to retrain or remove officers in these situations.
Corruption starts at the top, Criminal Cops always protect other Criminal Cops, I'm sure the supervisor is just as dirty as those Criminals.
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Any IA officer or police board official who determines "Officers were justified" should be included as defendants if the issue goes to court. Things have got to change.
We legally can't though. Police are effectively untouchable since they widely help elect judges, mayors, politicans, and can use the state for their legal battles. And even if we did gain momentum legally guess who's gonna declare there's a "riot" going on and go in guns blazing again?
What we need is to completely dissolve our current policing system entirely and use that funding to create specialized departments seperate from each other to actually help serve the public. Like ones who specialize in mental health crisis situations, departments that specialize in hostile situations involving active shooters, etc. All we have is a legalized gang who can lie, steal, and harm for any reason and face absolutely no punishment
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…and then officers responsible are considered to have done a great job even though Jamaal was found not to be the suspect they wanted. They still detain him, then charge him for resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
A few months ago I really thought that if I haven’t done anything wrong, I didn’t have to worry that much about the police. Then I started watching this and other channels like Lackluster, etc. My view has changed drastically.
Thank god there are people like you that are willing to reconsider based on new evidence. There's not many of us left!
As has mine after watching some of these videos
Unacceptable. The police are an absolute disgrace.
Just typical cowardice. Hands terrify them. They need all of us shackled immediately.
The utter contempt for the public by the Gestapo is disgusting. Arm yourself Americans and defend yourself from the Gestapo!
So are the jigs
So is the Grand Old Pussies backing support and allowance of it from their votes!
They deserve to be fired and banned from ever being an leo ever again
“We’re all recording, we all have cameras…” says the cop.. Recordings that can be turned off, physically covered with our hands and recordings that can be lost or withheld from the public at our direction….
And all while our tax dollars pay for the technology and equipment for that footage and even pay the power bills for the electricity 🤷🏻♂️
Dont forget make it really expensive to obtain as well as redacted/ edited after the fact
"I don't answer questions. I want a lawyer."
It's good to hear this more often. People are learning.
I find it funny the cops got frustrated that he said that when they are the ones that escalated the situation.
The cops start trying to get him with resisting when he's still processing why the hell two cops are already opening and searching his car. Most peopke will resist until they are given a good reason and a moment to compose themselves to understand whats going on. They didnt like the fact that he was about to comply, but only after he decided to start recording it.
Abolish qualified immunity.
Abolish limits on civil suits against police officers.
Abolish internal investigations.
You forgot the unions.
Use an independent unbiased civilian review board.
@@_Clayton.Bigsby_ I saw a case yesterday where a police union bailed a cop out for 50 grand after he literally shot someone two times with their hands up, and then drug them around on their belly until they died
Break the unions and all that goes with it. Unions are the head of the snake.
How?
The cops' initial hostility is the factor that caused this stop to go wrong. Politeness breeds the same. Hostility evokes hostility. Mr. Williams showed considerable restraint in his language considering the cops' initial demeanor.
yea like imagine some random ass mf running up on you and pulling you out of your car. and your the "bad guy" for not wanting that to happen. they dont tell you anything. they just open your door and start forcing you out randomly.
@@alexanderredhorse1297 Im not completely behind the cops on this one but youre wrong about "they dont tell you anything". They very clearly said they were investigating a burglary. I can understand that, to the guy in the car, this was all very random and more forceful than it needed to be but anyone who resists like he did are being stupid and hurting their own case. If he had just complied as youre required to when police are detaining you this wouldve went 1000x smoother, he wouldnt have gotten tossed onto the pavement, and he'd have a very strong case against them. You dont fight this shit on the side of the road, everyone should know this. If the cops order you out of your car then get out, refusing and resisting is not going to help you in the slightest and theyre not just going to give up if you say no.
@@SpydersBytehe was being cooperative tho. He asked to wait so he could pull out his home and then was getting out until the other officer started pulling him from the side at which point he sat back down and was deemed aggressive
@@SpydersByteAgreed. The guy made his situation much worse by resisting. Like a lot of these cases featured on the channel, if people cooperated they would be much better off. But of course, there's always a nice chance of suing and making a tidy sum.
@@Bl00dMalice”just comply” isn’t something you can ask of people. This is how you get your rights violated. Cops are not there to protect you. They are there to arrest you.
We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing. I, for one, am shocked 😲.
I'm only shocked they didn't give themselves a payrise and award themself an extra 2 weeks annual leave. 😂
I’m not shocked anymore.
You can see the pure terror in Mr. Williams's eyes...
Police should be taught the law so they can be held accountable for their actions. Get rid of qualified immunity
They know the law they just don't care.
@@jamescouture775They don't know the law. That's how we get all these lawsuits
Takes more training to get a barbers license than it does to become a blue line gang thug
Cops always tell citizens that ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law, they need to be held to the same or much higher standard.
You mean like us lowly truck drivers? We have to know EVERY law pertaining to trucks and traffic laws, from day one. No excuses!
What’s infuriating with so many of these encounters is when police unequivocally know a “suspect” is completely innocent but they still proceed to arrest because they feel disrespected.
Throwing up a resisting charge on a dude who literally didn't have time to realize what was really going on is petty. God forbid an innocent man trying to do the right thing as best he can
@@thompkins6796 Exactly right
CIVIL WAR IS COMING, AND THE GUILTY WILL BE HELD ABSOLUTELY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE!
@@thompkins6796 That is standard procedure for the thugs. You did not comply. I gave you 2 seconds to do it.
We've investigated ourselves and find that we did nothing wrong. Raises and promotions for everyone.
Cops saying, "we're recording you have nothing to worry about." Really isn't that comforting.
That law needs to be changed. No man who is innocent should be charged with resisting
It would be ideal. But I'm guessing a good chunk of all the cases across the US would be thrown out and cities would go bankrupt from all the people suing for restitution lol.
But, as ATA went to great lengths to explain - resisting can be a legal offense even if Subject is innocent. And it’s almost never cut & dry. So to stake your liberty, livelihood, and even your life on the legal coin flip as to whether your resistance will be ruled legal is a big ask.
Absolutely disgusting behavior from these officers. They need fired, not just sued.
The need fired, sued, and PRISON TIME
Wow cops that work together said that nothing was done improperly... I'm so surprised.
You know how when you hear a word too many times, it loses all meaning? The phrase "the police investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing" is like that. 😒
@@I.____.....__...__it was true. Any of these guys charged for their illegal actions? Has anyone been fired for their cowardice / incompetence? Nope.
They investigated themselves and found no wrongdoings.
Especially when the cops created the situation that he got arrested for. They shouldn't have even been psychical with him. Do a little investigating before going hands on. Terrible police
The cops don't care. They know any lawsuits will be settled out of court. Their department and township will pay off anyone filing a lawsuit, at the tax payers expenses. It's a joke
Even over here in Scotland we understand how corrupt and criminal the LA County Sheriff's Office is.
Insane to search the vehicle AFTER the cops are on camera acknowledging this was not the burglary suspect.
How can they justify the legality of said search!?
No one who lives in Southern California is surprised by LASD and their acts. One of the worst departments in the country.
I'm surprised they didn't beat him to a bloody pulp along with everything else. They seem to enjoy that.
@@gingw7333The body cams may have prevented that, but man even with the cams they do some dirty shit, except now they're super polite verbally as they physically manhandle you.
yeah you got that right, friend.
Grew up in Palmdale, in LASD contract city. They are one of the most corrupt agencies in the country and doesn't get anywhere near enough press for it. Former sheriff literally went to prison for being a corrupt POS. If anyone wants their skin to crawl Google "LASD gangs."
Yes bro !! I posted a comment on this vid on my thoughts about them! They always come at you with an aggressive approach first. Terrible people. They sound dumb these days. I miss the old deputies I used to see growing up. Now these are just clowns. Those dudes that hung around gangs as a kid but didn't join because they were afraid of their moms.
I love how the courts seem to be supporting the use of the taser as a cattle prod, it is no longer a defensive weapon like it was always supposed to be.
Completely lied to the public. They even tried to call it "non-lethal", were forced to change it and made up a term, "less than lethal" is nonsense.
So lemme get this straight -
"I don't answer questions" constitutes a continued threat that warrants leaving the cuffs on!?!
Sounds like retaliation to me.
bingo.
Clearly these idiots know he’s not the guy, they have him hog tied on the ground because they want to teach him a lesson.
If you don’t surrender your rights, that is seen as being aggressive and grounds for retaliation.
@@CytoplasmicGooLASD is famous for that kind of behavior.
"I don't answer questions" stirs up many cops.
"I'm invoking my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent" doesn't hit them quite the same.
So I was told by a defense attorney whose kid was friends with mine. Dude has a lot of successes and a reputation as the go-to guy especially when it's detaining/arresting cops who are the problem.
"We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" every internal investigation ever
Who in the right mind could and would stay calm when being falsely accused and handcuffed while having lunch in their car. We're not even allowed to scream injustice anymore without needing a lawyer to prove it.
Yeah this government is a fascist nightmare.
Like 99.9% of people are capable of staying calm in the face of cops
@@SB-mr2nk99.9% of cops are capable of doing their job right but 99.9% of cops choose not to 🤔
@@SB-mr2nk As they force your car doors open and push/pull you out?
@@SB-mr2nkIn a normal interaction yes, this type of situation happens far less than a normal traffic stop. As someone that's been apart of several stops where two cops give completely different commands and different questions, it's very stressful. Especially since at best you're ending up in cuffs or at least sore for a wrong movement or answer.
17:33 "But, instead of making use of the wide array of investigative methods available to them, the deputies immediately accelerated their conduct to aggressive detention and intimidation." This is a perfect summary of the cop mantra of "act before you think."
The courts are just as complicit. Let's face facts. The system is beyond repair.
I'm pretty sure that the system is working exactly as it was/is intended to work.
@@cherylmcelveen2817Whose boots have you been licking? If you went through the same ordeal as the gentleman in this video, you might change your mind.
@@3trilogy You misunderstood their comment. They meant that the system was INTENDED to be corrupt. The government, the courts, and the police all work together for their own benefit at the expense of the rest of society, they all rub each others' backs. (Yes, I said rub, not scratch.)
@@3trilogy I think you misunderstood him, He is not saying anything in favor of the police.
qualified immunity
*"Resisting" claims should automatically turn in to a charge for the officers when they're clearly visible on camera pulling a stationary person in opposite directions at the same time. If they haven't even decided yet where they're trying to move the stationary person to yet then the only excuse to be touching them at all is if they're visibly trying to reach a weapon or an object that can't be seen and therefore could possibly be a gun.*
While I normally agree with your grades, I can’t give this man a B+. You always state that you should never give up your rights and I feel he did everything he should have done to do so. The pigs were far too aggressive for him to have a chance to explain due to them immediately attacking him. A+ for him. F for the pigs, obviously.
This is disgusting, the way they treated that poor man
This guy was parked eating a snack and looking at his Mandarin Chinese textbook. What house robber would do that??? I love this guy.
What’s so laughable is the fact that they investigate themselves often and find no wrongdoing.
It should be illegal to investigate themselves. I think we need some public committees that review these cases. People who are versed in Constitutional rights
They make sure to say"dont resist "...
They always want to charge you with "resisting arrest" and "obstruction of justice" or "disorderly conduct" or "failure to ID" but what did they do to get those charges to begin with because they weren't charged with anything else but those things.
What…? An innocent Jamaal is arrested and charged with usual BS charges…resisting, obstructing and disorderly conduct when they find he’s innocent party???? Thank you Ltnt Hoang for giving your citizens assurance that they are safe and will be treated fairly and objectively in such circumstances. DISGUSTING!!!
It's good to see that people are learning. "I'm not answering questions" is so relieving to hear, even though the situation is quite screwed up.
nice to see that at least some americans are learning their rights.
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What tyrants. This is why America has to put an end to qualified immunity.
*for police. It was intended for senetors and representatives. Never for law enforcement.
We need a separate justice system where an INDEPENDENT body prosecutes police. And every officer convicted needs to serve 5x the sentence any other person would get for the same crime.
How in the actually fuck did he resist if one cop was holding him in and one cop was pulling him out
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson
@@andrewvirtue5048they don't need it either. They're even more crooked than the cops.