CONGRATS on ATA joining Spotify!!! I am definitely a loyal fan of ATA and hopefully we will be special additional content like follow-ups to your most popular videos if new additional information comes out.
Officer Sheep was not going to waste one time of his precious life proving an innocent man he can put him in handcuffs for no reason! He could be eating grass instead!
@@ivandankob7112 First officer apologised, but still had to have a final word in.. but her evil paymaster is the typical example of why public has no confidence in the government.
Any compensation due for falseafying an arrest will not come out of there pocket . so this will just keep on happening . they need to be held accountable " financially . Then you will see it dramatically stop
The problem with the officer stating "Go to court" is that it costs the innocent person MORE money to prove their innocence. And, there is the rub. The officer gets no reprimand or consequences for their abuse of authority...and the notion of "innocent until proven guilty" is a myth now.
Yes and no. She's saying it so jealous knows this isn't her choice, she didn't want to do this to him, but she has no choice but to follow his rules. Otherwise, she will probably lose her job. She can fight it after by filing a report against Wolf and male sure that she doesn't lose her job while standing up for herself and the citizens she was trying to protect.
False arrest, false imprisonment. Threatening behaviour. This sergeant, needs jail time not just firing! There is ZERO justification for this Sergeant, and he needs to be held accountable!
Cops nationwide need to pass a course in Constitutional law. They need to understand that Stop and I.D. is not a blanket law that allows cops to I.D. anyone for any reason. There has to be REASONABLE SUSPICION of a crime. Refusing to give I.D. is protected under the Constitution. Bottom line.
Cops should be held to the same standards the military has. Investigation, if it's found he had violated the citizens rights, then forfeiture of half a months pay for two months, reduction in rank, and intelligible for promotion for a period of time, if the violations are deemed severe they should result in separation from the police force or prison sentence.
The second cop is the worst. “You interfered with the traffic stop! And you didn’t obey us! Even tho she ran you off the road, but don’t worry about that!”
I feel that the first cop was worse, because she immediately started protecting her ass. She lied on the radio, saying that he failed to yield, which was not true. This caused the second cop to believe what he heard on the radio.
The fact that police hit people with obstruction charges for standing up to unlawful behavior so often and courts still do nothing to make actions to discourage officers from doing this and honor victims of said unlawful acts
There’s already not enough competent people applying for LEO, adding more restrictions to becoming a police officer isn’t going to help. They just need better training overall and mental health checks more frequently
@@MisterRawgers Painfully stupidly wrong. Competent people do not apply for law enforcement because of the culture. If it were restrictive enough that at least a decent amount of the authoritarian napoleon's got rejected, it would be a million times easier to convince actual decent people to apply. In most developed countries, being a police officer is a very respectable job that is only done by very patient compassionate people. The american system is much more similar to a third world country, where everyone hates and fears the police and assumes outright they are probably bad people.The idea that we should train the dickheads to be better at pretending to have empathy is so poisonous to our nation. You cannot train an asshole to be decent, you can only train them to not get in trouble. How long will it take people like you to figure that out?
She willingly signed her name to a ticket, knowing it would ruin his life and knowing he was not guilty. This is the definition of tyranny. “Don’t do as I say and I will retaliate”
Makes sense, your driver's license is about your right to drive not about identifying even though it can be used to identify. So it all depends on the jurisdiction and it's laws around these two separate things. Unfortunately in mine, we have to identify and get fined for not carrying ID.
@@Primus54 I don't know if that is comparable. Seems a bit disrespectful to the people who lost family in the Holocaust. This is a traffic stop we are talking about
A pity the bill will be made out to the citizenry, we pay their salary and pay for their mistakes, it’s like paying for your meal twice at a restaurant.
@@VirgoindigoI was thinking the same thing. It's not a win. It's never a win because the cops are never held personally responsible. Only the tax paying citizens suffer for the pigs' filth.
Absolutely. Unfortunately they get "qualified immunity" almost every time even though in 2023, I'm not sure how any cops still believe they can demand ID for no crime. Cops have too much freedom to fuck with us and almost no consequences for their actions.
@tsg5787 that's a bit far. I don't like cops cause of issues like this, but I don't think the death penalty is necessary. They just need proper training and these days your average officer gets shit training.
A just judgment would be that they suffer the penalties of the crime of Obstruction... the only true justice for false charges is to have those charges dropped on the head of the person who tried to bring charges against the person... a 1:1 exchange.
10:36 "I'm too lazy to figure out what happened so I'm gonna arrest this guy, he can figure it out in court." That right there is what is wrong with our police.
The thing that really bothers me about these situations is that the only reason you’re asked to identify yourself, is so they can run your name in hopes you have warrants. In alot of these videos, had the defendant had a warrant, the case study wouldn’t even exist. Which is weird, because it doesn’t nullify any of the wrong doing by the officers
She apologized tho way before the sergeant came but it’s like he wasn’t accepting her apologies and he could’ve left way before. She even told the sergeant to let him go with no tickets but he refused to listen to her. She’s not blameless but she did apologize and did told the sergeant to let him go with no citation. Idk what more she could’ve did
@@daneorigene6913 she could’ve stood up to her boss like the man said “sometimes u gotta stand up to people” u gonna wrong someone because ur boss told u? What a weak spine u have. That’s why we shouldn’t have woman cops
She knows she’s in the wrong! She admitted guilt multiple times and keep repeating how she just wants to let him go.. yeah because you know he didn’t do anything and your buddy is on a power trip.
True, Although I do appreciate that she put it on video that she didn't think he failed to yield and was planning on letting him go. Makes the legal case much better.
she immediately regretted the power trip she tried to take once she saw her superior take pride in it. it's like he was challenging her; "see, this is what we do"
She's a spineless coward. From jump she calls into dispatch that a man is jumping out of his car, making it sound like she's nearly being attacked, and then she calmly apologizes to the guy she just called in about, clearly aware of why he was getting out of the car. She's a two-faced snake that's going to cause a death one day.
Cops need to carry liability insurance, so settlements are not paid by the taxpayers. Having liability insurance needs to be conditional for employment as a cop.
I agree, but they would be uninsurable because the bean counters at the insurance companies would see videos like this and the myriad of other auditors and say, "Nope!"
Or, the cops could be subject to increased rates, like a dr with malpractice insurance claims. The more you screw up, the more you have to pay for coverage. Make the cops responsible for their own actions. Personal responsibility is sadly lacking now.
Exactly what I have been saying for years! Like Dr's have to carry malpractice insurance. Once the LEO'S premiums get so high they cannot afford to keep working in the field. It follows them across the nation too. An almost perfect solution for such a horrendously broken system we deal with now.
Well the bitch also lied by painting herself as a proper driver and misinformed officer Sheep about the situation, who was all ego because she did not admit her guilt to him
The fact that police aren't required to know the law, at least as it relates to what they are and are not allowed to do, is mind boggling. The fact they can just arrest and "let the court figure it out" is insane to me.
Right? I wouldn’t expect them to know all the nuances of each and every law and the precedents that have been set, of course, but when it pertains to their own actions and the rights that people have when dealing with them, the police _should_ know the ins-and-outs of those laws. They should have their knowledge regularly tested and updated when it comes to case law or newly passed laws. Erroneously detaining, arresting or ticketing a person should not happen with such regularity. Obviously you are still going to have those who abuse their power anyway, but we shouldn’t _also_ have those who genuinely don’t even know what they are allowed to do.
@dgoody84 Nope. That said, a cop shouldnt be able to get away with abusing your rights just because they "didnt know." Just like normal citizens, ignorance of the law should be no defense for cops. Edit: in fact, cops, along with anyone working in a position to enforce laws in any way, should be held to a higher standard than normal citizens, due to the nature of thier positions, but thats just my opinion.
The fact that she can't admit a mistake without trying to justify and he points it out. "I don't want to argue... Say 'my bad' and move on" And that's exactly ALL that NEEDED to happen. Her tone is so derogatory and self-righteous. She presents as the type of person that does not take well to having mistakes pointed out.
She's worse than that, the phony nice act is exactly that.. phony. The first words she says in the video is her calling into dispatch making the guy out to be a dangerous threat, then she turns right around and smiles in his face. She's disgusting, no accountability and a sharks smile.
The sergeant really said to arrest the guy and let the judge decide if it's a valid arrest. He has no problem just arresting people and writing bogus charges. Whatever the judge does with it is fine with him. What a pos. He knows there's never any consequences against him.
Thats the way it is here in West Virginia a lot! I did absolutely nothing wrong and drove away with $2000 in tickets. Went to court, cop was 1 1/2 hrs late, when he finally got there, he didn't even remember the stop. I walked out of court with the 2000 in tickets plus $525 in court costs. I got a lawyer and didn't have to pay a dime. The whole stop was bs to begin with 🤔
@@lilibyrd9319and another very unfortunate terrible thing is, if he wins his suit the cop that violated his rights won’t have to pay a single fucking penny. It’ll come out if tax payer dollars. These cops that like to go around fucking with people like it’s no big deal should be individually sued and have to pay the lawsuit monies themselves. I feel like that would really make them get their act together. But I’m just some random dude on RUclips what do I know?!? 😂
They actually have proven that if you refuse the plea bargain by the prosecutors and assert your constitutional right to a trial, they WILL punish you. It’s called a “trial penalty “and in the federal courts the sentences of plea deals vs losing a jury trial were absolutely staggering. Like 3 vs 20 years type of difference. People act like our system is fair. Only to the cops, prosecutors, and judges who further their careers with no regard for the collateral damage.
It's a little more than that. He kept rubbing it in over and over after she apologized multiple times. There's really nothing more to discuss after that point and he just kept instigating and making a problem.
Imagine that. “Im not going to sit out here with somebody for an hour” and not at least send them to court. What a disgusting man, more power driven decisions.
@@hardanheavybecause it is… The officer is punishing him for rightfully complaining. Police officers do not entertain the idea of not always being right.
Many videos have cops saying that the victim is not going to waste their time. Last time I checked, time is all a cop has during his duty hours. Of course, taking time with a person keeps him from finding someone else to badger so in that regard it might be wasting his time since he is delayed from finding others not violating the law.
when there's strong evidence that a reasonable person wouldn't have shared the cop's belief based on what they could've witnessed, you can absolutely win a lawsuit. but cops are often not held personally accountable in any way as long as they claim to have been acting in good faith.
"Obstruction" is clearly defined in most states. The issue is that cops can make up nonsense to arrest people for bruising their egos and feel emboldened to do it because they rarely get punished for it.
The fact she keeps passing the buck saying my sgt told me to do this is just shows 0 accountability Her sergeant gave an unlawful order and she carried it out
If the sargeant had told this silly female cop to shoot this man, would she have followed his unlawful orders? Her copsplaining in the end was pathetic.
She couldn't even apologize and take accountability at the same time. This seems to be a deep issue with this weak woman, and policing is the worst field for her.
Also, nothing worse that a ‘I have to do this because my boss told me’. Have some morale courage and tell him no! Bad things happen because good people stand by and do nothing! She fails too.
@@-farang-la-fan the best response for that in work places in general is "can you give me that order in writing/recorded radio" and also "i'm not sure if that's lawful or not, I think it's best you make the formal arrest"
@@SnakeSalmon8izback she literally made a call requesting backup that made it sound like the citizen completely ignored her lights/siren and was harassing her.
Mr Sergeant just said “I’d rather violate his rights instead of wasting my time”. He pretty much admitted to such. And the officer who issued that citation saying “I’m only following orders”… do you know how many atrocities in this world have been committed by people who’ve said the same. That’s NEVER an excuse, and shame on you for trying to use it as one. They’re both despicable, shame!
She did the right thing, and luckily the cheif saw the problem and addressed it as such making the sergeant go to desolation training. If she would've not given him the ticket, it would've been suicide for her career and she be labeled an uncle Tom, and the training/lack there of may have never been known by the cheif. And she would've been looked at as an officer with insubordination on her collar.
@@richardb4022 not only that, if she hadn't been there or pushed back as much as she did, the sergeant absolutely would have taken the guy to jail. At the end of the day, this idiot decided to pull up behind her, keep arguing after she apologized and tried to send him on his way, and continued to blame her for something that may or may not have happened, and all the while she kept trying to defend him. She's a human being doing a difficult job and has to answer to her immediate superiors the same as any of the rest of us do. Based off of how she handled this entire situation, she should be the sergeant.
@@idiot_RC No sorry the guy isn't an idiot everything else you said is fine. However trying to excuse the fact she almost caused an accident for them makes you look like the idiot.
Yes Sgt said something dumb BUT he said it thinking he was having a private conversation with a fellow cop. Question is: are cops allowed to have politically incorrect private conversations that are caught in body cam?
Imagine for a second none of the cameras were turned on, its scary. How many law abiding citizens have lost faith in the system or worse , wrongfully charged for policing abuses!
@@g0dofimmortality Thank God for body cameras and cell phones. Imagine where we'd be today if we were still without these wonderful accountability devices. It amazes me that even though we have them this still goes on to the degree it does, when they know they are camera.
@@Recken1 NO thank God for black people who lost their lives and protest in the streets when everyone thought the cops couldn't do any wrong. Then, they force the cops to wear body cams!
Where have we heard "I was just following orders" before? She has the capability to be a good cop, but she's bowing down to her corrupt and dishonest leadership. My hats off to this citizen for standing up to their bullying.
Your probably just being snarky but for anyone who reads this and dosent know the history "just following orders" was a common excuse or reason for the natzis doing horrible things in I want to say ww2? It was bad and a wake up call of what "just following orders" can lead to
@@warsurplus no problem, also I apologize if that came off as rude or combative, i asdune it was snarkibg at the officers its kind like watching someone doing something anyone else can tell is a bad idea and you just can't resist the urge to let some dry humor through. Hope your day is going well
Listening to her try reason with her sergeant after dude was put in cuffs is the only sign we need to know that even she knew she shouldn’t have been tryna arrest him.
Yeah, and it's a shame that "I was just doing my job and following orders" wasn't acceptable in 1940s Nuremberg but is acceptable now. Some "progress". 🤦
she wasn't trying to arrest him. she was just trying to make him submit to her to keep her ego intact. that's why she tried to get him let him. she was bluffing about the obstruction thing from the get-go.
She didn't want all the details to potentially come out, including dashcam, because she knew she messed up. She's trying to weasel out of trouble, not actually help in any real way.
In Brooklyn, NY, my security patrol car was hit by an *off duty cop,* when I had the right of way.* He was childishly hostile as he removed his badge from under his shirt. Not one minute later, six suits approached me, and said, "you better watch your back," after I radioed the accident to my dispatch. Yeah, they threatened my life. I went to the local precinct (72nd), to file a complaint. Guess what happened. *Nothing.* Sadly, this was before mobile phones, bodycams, or dashcams. Hell, even with bodycams, cops pull this crap because obtaining the footage is a fool's errand. Moreover, magic does exist in law enforcement, as footages magically disappear!
She admitted to making an illegal stop since the car matched a description, then proceeded to arrest the innocent man who pulled up behind her. These cops are out of their mind.
I disagree with this. The guy who was complaining to her was being a dickhead. So he's saying that she almost ran him off the road because she pulled in front of him and stopped immediately. But he's also saying he didn't see her lights. Yet the driver in front of the cop was able to react to her lights faster? Doesn't make much sense. If anything, it's on him for driving too close to other cars and on the first car for stopping so abruptly. You don't stop on a dime because you see cop lights behind you, you stop asap but in a safe manner.
Yup, it’s only fair. We should be using the actual penalty for those who use their authority to ruin the lives of citizens, and that’s treason. Minimum of 25 years, maximum penalty is death
It's a major issue. Almost all lawyers agree that it's best to allow an unlawful arrest and fight it in court, but any arrest record is bad. If you resist an unlawful arrest, then maybe none of the other charges will stick except resisting arrest.
It’s disgusting that when a citizen refuses to comply with orders from police they know are illegal and unconstitutional, they inevitable end up being charged with BS crimes such as obstruction or disorderly with charges usually dismissed.
Before there were body cams cops could make their b.s charges hold up in court. I know because it’s happened to me. Cops will lie to make sure their b.s arrest holds up in court.
The fact that she tried to get the Sargent to let him go tells everything. She must have screwed up bad with her driving which is also why there isn't any video of the driving. I guarantee it would have won a lawsuit for him and also made the Sargent look like the dick that he is. It's amazing how often footage disappears and/or is claimed to have never been taken
No, it doesn't. She was trying to get him to go from the start, she even apologized and recognized the fact that she slammed on her brakes causing the driver to do the same. Honestly, the guy was an idiot for stopping and whining about it, but the sergeant escalated this entire situation. If he wouldn't have shown up, she would have apologized and sent the dude on his way, and if she hadn't stood up for him the sergeant probably would have taken the guy to jail instead of issuing a citation. And even if she did make a reckless driving error and it was on video, the worst outcome of that would be here getting reprimanded for reckless driving, because it's irrelevant to the contents of the lawsuit.
that 2nd officer immediately escalated for something he did not observe. He is dangerously walking the line of malfeasance by saying he has RAS to arrest him.
I'm sure that was just her covering her butt by deflecting blame on the record. (After all, we saw how perfectly capable she was of covering her butt by trying to blame Kern. 😒)
@@gkess7106 It’s her stop, but if her Sergeant gave an order which wasn’t explicitly illegal, she could be fired for insubordination for not following it. By getting it as a formal order, she shifted all the legal and administrative liability onto him.
Man says "you cut me off..blah blah blah". If I was the officer "I am sorry you feel that way. Here is my card so you have my information. You can file a complaint at the station". Done, over. These cops just escalate situations unnecessarily.
She literally admited that he commit no crime. If he didn't admit a crime by their own admission, they give up the right to force him to fork over his identification.
One big issue is ironically a lot of cops aren’t fluent with their state laws on asking for identification. That and it’s way too easy to charge someone when a cop has a bruised ego. That Sergeant wanted to give him a ticket for not yielding basically so he could use it as an excuse for the ID
@@snex000 Lmao They’re clearly not or else so many of them wouldn’t open themselves up to lawsuits. Plenty of people who’ve won huge settlements for violating someone’s rights. The thing is citizens don’t even know their state laws well enough to even know their rights are violated.
“I called backup because I have a MAN approaching me.” So she’s scared shitless as a cop. Sounds like being a cop might not be the right career choice for her.
Yea women like her have no business even being in uniform. I worked with a great cop who did welfare checks where I used to live. She could handle herself, was great with people, and would laugh at this "cop"
That's dumb. If an officer has two cars now pulls over and you're by yourself, it's just dangerous and bad policing to think you're just going to handle that by yourself. You have to be so incredibly biased, not to see that. What you said is astounding dumb.
All cops would have called that in, regarldess of gender. The cops who respond don't have to overstep their authority and push their weight around. But any cop that doesn't call in someone interupting a traffic stop is derelict in their duties, and unnecessarily risky.
All state statues are contoured to Terry v Ohio needing reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime before one has to identify themselves. Mr. Kearns was clever to get the officer to admit there was no crime, therefore, there was not a reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime being committed, or about to be committed, there was no crime in this incident. Until the Terry v Ohio standards are met there is no obstruction of a crime. This was a clear violation of his Fourth Amendment rights to be secure in his person and papers.
@@jameshw9751 you’re obviously not a lawyer. Has everything to do with civil rights. His rights were violated. The cops broke the law. The mechanism for redress is the courts. He sued, he wins a lot of money, the taxpayers holds those accountable by firing them. Period.
10:50 “he didn’t bow to my authority and I’m not gonna sit out here and be challenged! I don’t have the mental capacity to deal with facts! He needs to just bend the knee ok?!”
I completely agree. Corrupt cops, and the female cop should be arrested herself!?! What the hell!?! Dirty cops make me sick. This video is a classic example.
This is why every driver should have a dash cam. The police will lie! Here in Georgia there's a big problem with police officers not turning on their body cams and "accidentally" deleting videos.
@@Recken1 I'm on my third dashcam, and it has got me out of it at least four different tickets. The last one was in Atlanta police officer who claimed that I came to a rolling stop instead of a complete stop. And since my dash cam has mph & Bluetooth, I just replayed the stop and show him... he was wrong.
“That is obstruction.” “Obstruction is a secondary crime. What crime did I commit?” “There is no crime.” In all of these videos I’ve watched, I’ve never made the connection that obstruction of justice has to be preceded by a main suspicion if it’s a one on one. That should be the end of of it right there but alas there are 13 more minutes.
Criminal giving her such a high grade. Falling back on "I'm only following orders" while still hearing in her voice that she knows this is wrong is pretty unforgivable.
As far as can tell, this guy was 100% in the right. He pulled over in irritation, but stayed back and didn't step in until approached. He was fairly calm throughout the interaction, and stood his ground on his rights. We could use more folks like this gentleman!
@@DJYC21215 having integrity would require it. If my boss asked me to be discriminatory or violate someone's rights I most definitely would refuse. Like I tell my children, doing the right thing is rarely the easiest but we do it anyways because it's the right thing.
@@pepsigamble9500 You'll then get blacklisted and will find it impossible to get another job in law enforcement. Hope your backup plan can pay the bills.
@@DJYC21215 my integrity isn't for sale. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. Just following orders hasn't been a justifiable excuse since WW2.
The Sgt doesn't need more training, he needs an immediate demotion at the least. And, well, ask the Nazi's at the Nuremburg trials how "I was just following orders" went for them.
It’s small issues like this that will always make us distrust police. The sergeant didn’t even see what happened, he’s road raging like a crazy person. Why would anyone speak to or help the police when they always find a way to screw us over.
She tried to talk the other cop out of a ticket, he was clearly the superior. This dude certainly didn't help his situation, and the suspected crime was well articulated. Him not agreeing is what court is for.
Almost like it's innate to the job, I'm not even an ACAB guy but they are so slimy when it comes to covering their asses it's basically mandatory for the job
Thank you for being so diligent in all the cases that you review. I thoroughly enjoy watching and listening to your explanations of what is happening. I usually agree to your assessments.
I blame the female officer more than anything for being an order follower. The ORDER-FOLLOWER always bears MORE Moral Culpability than the order-giver, because the Order Follower is the one who actually performed the action and broke the law. ORDER-FOLLOWING is the pathway to every form of Evil and Chaos in our world. It should NEVER be seen as a "virtue" by anyone who considers themselves a moral human being. Order-Followers have ultimately been personally responsible and morally culpable for every form of Slavery and every single Totalitarian regime that has ever existed upon the face of the Earth.
If one develops enough ambiguous laws, we will all become guilty of "something". She screwed up due to ego "pull that car over now" and is pissed that she was caught. Sue them.
I wish they provided more on this. She stated the vehicle matched a description from he previous day, but didn't elaborate - it could have been tied to a serious crime. There could have been sufficient clearance when she moved in front of him, but the other driver stopped abruptly, causing a near accident, or at least abrupt enough to upset the other driver. It wouldn't be the 1st time someone exaggerated claiming they were cut off. It is possible it was close because he didn't yield. For anyone falsely arrested (here the LEO issuing the ticket did not believe he committed a crime), they should: 1. Try to meet with the prosecutor to get the citation dropped. 2. Request body cam footage and file a complaint. 3. Seek a lawyer to file suit, with the intent to accept an out of court settlement.
@christopheranderson8311 Not how the real world works. That was her Sargent, you likely will not have a good career, challenging your boss on a minor offense. I am sure she would fight the boss more strongly on more egregious behavior.
@Redridge07 Your reasoning is a major cause of the problems we're currently in. You need to grow a pair and start standing up for basic underlying things that matter, not just critical issues! Give in on the little things and you'll have nothing to stand on when those big things occur.
@@hdpro66 You obvously do not have a job. Also, "growing a pair" is so rare, that we have state and federal laws to protect those that eventually "grow a pair". We adults call it whistle blower laws. We would not need this if the worrld was as simple are your little mind thinks.
@@leovelez You have a overly simplified view of the world. It is very uncommon for people to set a wait through someone else traffic stop. This guy could have been waiting to ambush the female cop.
Some corrupt cop supervisor told me it was bad customer service that a corrupt cop threatened to arrest me for being assaulted. As if I were returning something at a store one day late.
I'm very impressed by how calmly he explained to her what she should have done instead, that she should have said no to her boss. I would have been too furious to do that.
The way this man controlled himself, stood up for himself, and stood up for his rights is literally exactly how I hope to respond if something like this ever happens to me. His interaction at about 15:00 for sure, made me see myself in him because I was thinking the whole time. “This officer needs to stand up to her sergeant and mean it; yeah he wouldn’t have liked it, but in the end, they would’ve saved the department and the sergeant a whole lotta face and money!!😂
That's one way of looking at it. Here's another. Somebody (be it cop or whoever) cut in front of him on the road. He got an immediate apology. Sensible people would have let it go at that. But he's not one of those people.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Just because her _excuse_ contained the word ‘sorry’ does not mean it was an apology, she still wasn't taking accountability. You don't know if she was lying about having already had her lights and sirens on, and she was likely lying about him having loud music on, trying to find more excuses for her reckless maneuver.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Agreed. The cops were bad, but he created his own destiny by conducting himself like an asshole - the way so mahy cops do in these videos.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Thanks for saying something.. I was looking through all the comments on this video and wondering if I was hallucinating when I saw the guy going off the rails. While he may be right about her cutting him off and causing this whole interaction to begin with, he easily could have complied and not found himself in this situation. Unless, of course, there was a reason to not want to identify yourself to authorities…
Had a cop try and grab my friend with PTSD, she was a passenger to a pulled over car and not in any trouble, she flinched and he then tackled her and charged her for resisting arrest. This lead to her overdose. Only good cop is Officer Down.
failing to yield to an emergency is a traffic violation, which is a crime....so yes ID was needed to be given. Did you not hear what AtA said about that state being a stop and ID state.
It’s honestly sickening how much leniency cops have. I can’t think of any other profession the enables people to constantly get away with acts that no one else would
How many other professionals would keep their jobs if they knew as little about what they were supposed to be doing and made as many errors as cops do? (And that's not counting shooting their 'clients'!)
This Sergeant is a very important and busy man. (10:52) "I'M NOT GOING TO SIT OUT HERE ARGUE WITH SOMEBODY FOR AN HOUR!" even though he has literally only been there FOR JUST 5 MINUTES! What a colossal egomaniac douchebag! Verdict first, trial after! She doesn't want the man arrested and this corrupt abusive Sergeant overrules her.
ABSOLUTELY!!!! I think that was the most important part of video, even tho it was only tickets , tomorrow it could be a shooting or etc....And a good cop like the lady seemed to be , just goes with whatever ....That's suck imo....Betrays trust!
This whole situation is ridiculous and he (the sergeant) escalated it so much with his behavior. Situations like these are what the public is scared of. This man should not have gotten in any trouble at all. The fact that he did is a gross misuse of their authority
Thing is, this is a classical issue. We as humans often defer to others who we believe have authority even when we know they are ordering things which might be wrong, illegal, or even inhumane. Decades back a psychological study was done where it proved "normal" citizens were quite willing to risk other people's lives if told to do things that they themselves believed to be unsafe. In the study, citizens were instructed by a "doctor" to give increasingly dangerous shocks even exceeding what they were told were lethal levels to a fake test subject. Very few even attempted to quit or walk away, and those who did gave in when the doctor told them it was required. Almost none of the citizens stopped before the point where the experiment pretended to kill the subject. Almost universally the excuse was that they were only doing what they were told. No one attempted to rescue the subject. None attempted to citizen arrest the doctor to stop it. Not a single citizen tried breaking into the subject's room to help revitalize him. It seems the citizens living nearby and guards at the WW2 Germany concentration camps were not extremes but merely a sign of an inherent flaw in either social mores or the human psyche in general.
Absolutely. Those laws are so broad. Why can't cops be expected to conduct themselves without having to fall back on charges to force anyone to comply regardless of circumstance.
@@ScottServais-poet The police have become an appendage of state and corporate power. From the revolutions of the 1840s to the Paris Commune in 1871, people have been demanding the right to self-police through the democratic process. It was radical then, but it is no longer radical.
@@michaelcarrig627 Not the democratic process. The democratic process is mob rule. Self governing is a constitutional republic form of governance. The rights of the individual supercede the wants of the mob (represented by the state or not)
@@rjbourgeois5490 The "rights of the individual" is just another means to define privilege. Actual left vs right is nothing more than universal rights vs individual privilege. A republic is supposed to be a balance of both, where all people are protected from injustice while also providing their social mobility based on merit, skill and other positive traits. Unfortunately, this concept of republic has been hijacked by weaklings who wear uniforms that they don't deserve as they don't fulfill their obligations to the public as per the social contract.
@@V_for_Vovin The 'rights of the individual" is not another means to define privledge. Each individual has access to universal rights. Hence the 'rights of the individual' as every single universal right is bestowed upon each individual seperately but evenly by his creator as evident of his/her design, "we hold these truths to be self-evident". However, no argument from the rest of your statement. Fully agree there.
Once an incident happens, In order to record the what happens you have to tap the record icon. Unless you have the settings that when you hit the horn it records the last 20m. But why does that matter? She just had to say, I messed up my bad and move on. Also it’s the guy cop that’s causing the situation to escalate more
People hired to enforce the laws they have no idea what the laws are. A reasonable person would conclude we live in a Police State where the police are allowed to make up their own interpretations.
The second cop barely knew what was going on he heard something briefly over dispatch and then came into the situation and started talking as if he was there the whole time now that is crazy!!
He was absolutely right when he told her "Sometimes you need to stand up for yourself and say no". The Nuremberg trials established that "Just following orders" does not make you innocent of a crime.
Check out AtA on Spotify here: spoti.fi/439TpHT
how did you comment this 15 hours ago this was uploaded 2 minutes ago💀
CONGRATS on ATA joining Spotify!!! I am definitely a loyal fan of ATA and hopefully we will be special additional content like follow-ups to your most popular videos if new additional information comes out.
@@gavin67 You can pre release videos to your channel and release to public at a later date so you can make revisions etc.
Gonna need to see that dashcam
All you do is show how courts are violating the constitution
Round of applause for Sergeant for escalating the whole situation and letting his ego come in the way. 👏
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@skipper523 Thanks
🍑🫱 😂
Officer Sheep was not going to waste one time of his precious life proving an innocent man he can put him in handcuffs for no reason! He could be eating grass instead!
@@ivandankob7112 First officer apologised, but still had to have a final word in.. but her evil paymaster is the typical example of why public has no confidence in the government.
The classic “obstruction” arrest when a cop doesn’t have a citizen bow to them.
Also loitering or disturbance of the peace are some catch all charges
10$ Sarge is banging ponytail
Any compensation due for falseafying an arrest will not come out of there pocket .
so this will just keep on happening .
they need to be held accountable " financially . Then you will see it dramatically stop
So the WPO knows what he has done , is wrong
but because he's higher than her there's , nothing she will do about it .
@@jackwatsonepic626they really need to change that
The problem with the officer stating "Go to court" is that it costs the innocent person MORE money to prove their innocence.
And, there is the rub. The officer gets no reprimand or consequences for their abuse of authority...and the notion of "innocent until proven guilty" is a myth now.
Cops know that the punishment is in the process, and they use that as revenge against citizens who don't lick their boots.
You are so right! Agree completely!
End Qualified Immunity
Huh, sure sounds like you live in a police state where you don't actually have rights unless you can afford them with fiat Ameri-bucks.
Officers normally also gets overtime for court appearances
"I'm just following orders" is the absolute worst thing you can say.
Ja, mein Herr!
That's Nazism
He gustapho was just following orders and look how that turned out
@@mikeveis6393 Nazism is a political movement and method. It'd be worth learning about it, it's methods and how rhetoric is used.
Yes and no. She's saying it so jealous knows this isn't her choice, she didn't want to do this to him, but she has no choice but to follow his rules. Otherwise, she will probably lose her job. She can fight it after by filing a report against Wolf and male sure that she doesn't lose her job while standing up for herself and the citizens she was trying to protect.
False arrest, false imprisonment. Threatening behaviour. This sergeant, needs jail time not just firing! There is ZERO justification for this Sergeant, and he needs to be held accountable!
Cops nationwide need to pass a course in Constitutional law. They need to understand that Stop and I.D. is not a blanket law that allows cops to I.D. anyone for any reason. There has to be REASONABLE SUSPICION of a crime. Refusing to give I.D. is protected under the Constitution. Bottom line.
Cops should be held to the same standards the military has. Investigation, if it's found he had violated the citizens rights, then forfeiture of half a months pay for two months, reduction in rank, and intelligible for promotion for a period of time, if the violations are deemed severe they should result in separation from the police force or prison sentence.
Yep but doubtful as we've seen so many times
@@davidp332I agree but military still get away with a lot.
@@davidp332 That is an excellent idea.
They didn't arrest him for obstructing justice, they arrested him for seeking justice.
Well fucking said!!!
I love this quote. Thank you.
Well put my guy!
The second cop is the worst. “You interfered with the traffic stop! And you didn’t obey us! Even tho she ran you off the road, but don’t worry about that!”
Unnecessary machismo - fits the American cuck officer profile.
Also he admits he has no idea what the situation was.
he has no penis
Sargent Wolf was trying to impress younger female cop with his "alpha-machismo', for what reason we can all guess.
I feel that the first cop was worse, because she immediately started protecting her ass. She lied on the radio, saying that he failed to yield, which was not true. This caused the second cop to believe what he heard on the radio.
The fact that police hit people with obstruction charges for standing up to unlawful behavior so often and courts still do nothing to make actions to discourage officers from doing this and honor victims of said unlawful acts
It’s amazing that it takes a lawyer 8 years to learn law, but cops 5 months to enforce it
7.. years but we get your point
There’s already not enough competent people applying for LEO, adding more restrictions to becoming a police officer isn’t going to help. They just need better training overall and mental health checks more frequently
@@MisterRawgers Painfully stupidly wrong. Competent people do not apply for law enforcement because of the culture. If it were restrictive enough that at least a decent amount of the authoritarian napoleon's got rejected, it would be a million times easier to convince actual decent people to apply. In most developed countries, being a police officer is a very respectable job that is only done by very patient compassionate people. The american system is much more similar to a third world country, where everyone hates and fears the police and assumes outright they are probably bad people.The idea that we should train the dickheads to be better at pretending to have empathy is so poisonous to our nation. You cannot train an asshole to be decent, you can only train them to not get in trouble. How long will it take people like you to figure that out?
Cops only learn the laws they have to enforce. It's a difference.
@@MisterRawgers that's because they purposefully weed out intelligent people. Only idiots in blue.
She willingly signed her name to a ticket, knowing it would ruin his life and knowing he was not guilty. This is the definition of tyranny. “Don’t do as I say and I will retaliate”
All right, except "ruin his life"... come on
He stopped the traffic stop to blame her continually. What was he thinking? She was pretty i think he jus wanted to talk
@@xavierb9061 ok virgin.
Right. If that sergeant told her to run in front of a moving vehicle, would she?
@@M0beldo you know what misdemeanor and charges do to black peoples job prospects?
I love how cops create a loop where you have to identify yourself for obstruction and the obstruction is not showing your driver's license.
They always move the goalpost.
Yeah, that's not legal, but they get trained that it is.
laugh at them, make them arrest you and get your payday
Makes sense, your driver's license is about your right to drive not about identifying even though it can be used to identify. So it all depends on the jurisdiction and it's laws around these two separate things. Unfortunately in mine, we have to identify and get fined for not carrying ID.
@@OurFamily- that's not the case on this one.
He get a A+ someone who does nothing but lawfully drive down the road then accused of committing a crime. You have every right to raise your voice.
After watching enough of these, it's become obvious that there's only one crime, challenging the authority of the police.
And they handle it like Judge Dredd; shoot to kill on sight. No questions asked.
Yes
Sadly, yes. Idk how police can expect the public to respect and trust them when they repeatedly act like this without fail…
Cops are enemies of the law abiding citizens and the American constitution
Contempt of cop is a very serious crime !!!!!! Lol
“Listen I’m just doing what I’m told to do”.
That’s the WORST kinda cops to have
People in North America have never heard of Nuremberg Trials
That defense didn’t work in Nuremberg, either.
Exactly and there has been proof of in PD gang's where even sergeants are involved
@@Primus54 I don't know if that is comparable. Seems a bit disrespectful to the people who lost family in the Holocaust. This is a traffic stop we are talking about
Yea that’s what Nazi soldiers said…
The sergeant is a pompous fool! He basically arrested that guy for no reason. Major lawsuit! Get paid brother
A pity the bill will be made out to the citizenry, we pay their salary and pay for their mistakes, it’s like paying for your meal twice at a restaurant.
Sargent is backing up his fellow gang member- They are Above the law.
@@Virgoindigo literally the perfect example
@@VirgoindigoI was thinking the same thing. It's not a win. It's never a win because the cops are never held personally responsible.
Only the tax paying citizens suffer for the pigs' filth.
If I were the mayor and saw this bodycam... He would have lost some stripes
He broke the biggest law of all. Hurt the sergeants ego
Honestly, it needs to be a federal offense for police officers to file frivolous obstruction charges.
Absolutely. Unfortunately they get "qualified immunity" almost every time even though in 2023, I'm not sure how any cops still believe they can demand ID for no crime. Cops have too much freedom to fuck with us and almost no consequences for their actions.
Death penalty or else they’ll never learn
@tsg5787 that's a bit far. I don't like cops cause of issues like this, but I don't think the death penalty is necessary. They just need proper training and these days your average officer gets shit training.
A just judgment would be that they suffer the penalties of the crime of Obstruction... the only true justice for false charges is to have those charges dropped on the head of the person who tried to bring charges against the person... a 1:1 exchange.
@@tsg5787Absolutely. I agree.
The sergeant is like "i dont know whats going on, but im certain youre wrong"
10:36 "I'm too lazy to figure out what happened so I'm gonna arrest this guy, he can figure it out in court." That right there is what is wrong with our police.
The thing that really bothers me about these situations is that the only reason you’re asked to identify yourself, is so they can run your name in hopes you have warrants. In alot of these videos, had the defendant had a warrant, the case study wouldn’t even exist. Which is weird, because it doesn’t nullify any of the wrong doing by the officers
a lot
And to see if you have any bad charges then they’ll put you in handcuffs saying that you’re dangerous or something never asked if your being detained
@@Curtisgriffith10it
Very sad and scary to see the cop openly admit she’s wrong, but that she’s going to charge him anyway just because she was told to.
"just following orders"
She apologized tho way before the sergeant came but it’s like he wasn’t accepting her apologies and he could’ve left way before. She even told the sergeant to let him go with no tickets but he refused to listen to her. She’s not blameless but she did apologize and did told the sergeant to let him go with no citation. Idk what more she could’ve did
@@daneorigene6913 The right thing, simple as that.
@@jeepinbanditrider Wasn't that the classic response from the Nazis at Nuremberg - "I was just following orders, your Honor"..
@@daneorigene6913 she could’ve stood up to her boss like the man said “sometimes u gotta stand up to people” u gonna wrong someone because ur boss told u? What a weak spine u have. That’s why we shouldn’t have woman cops
She knows she’s in the wrong! She admitted guilt multiple times and keep repeating how she just wants to let him go.. yeah because you know he didn’t do anything and your buddy is on a power trip.
Exactly. She knew she F'ed up.
True, Although I do appreciate that she put it on video that she didn't think he failed to yield and was planning on letting him go. Makes the legal case much better.
she immediately regretted the power trip she tried to take once she saw her superior take pride in it. it's like he was challenging her; "see, this is what we do"
She's a spineless coward. From jump she calls into dispatch that a man is jumping out of his car, making it sound like she's nearly being attacked, and then she calmly apologizes to the guy she just called in about, clearly aware of why he was getting out of the car. She's a two-faced snake that's going to cause a death one day.
Cops need to carry liability insurance, so settlements are not paid by the taxpayers. Having liability insurance needs to be conditional for employment as a cop.
I agree, but they would be uninsurable because the bean counters at the insurance companies would see videos like this and the myriad of other auditors and say, "Nope!"
Oh! That's a GREAT idea!
And with premiums adjusted by their claims record.
Or, the cops could be subject to increased rates, like a dr with malpractice insurance claims. The more you screw up, the more you have to pay for coverage. Make the cops responsible for their own actions. Personal responsibility is sadly lacking now.
Exactly what I have been saying for years! Like Dr's have to carry malpractice insurance. Once the LEO'S premiums get so high they cannot afford to keep working in the field. It follows them across the nation too. An almost perfect solution for such a horrendously broken system we deal with now.
The Sergeant needs to be demoted.
Crazy how the sergeant who knows nothing about the situation demanded he gets a ticket when the officer involved wanted to let him leave
Ego
@@a-a-ronbrowser1486exactly you know how them simps get
Well the bitch also lied by painting herself as a proper driver and misinformed officer Sheep about the situation, who was all ego because she did not admit her guilt to him
...aaaaannndddd now he goes home and beats on his wife and kids.
he had to once he put on the bracelets he had to get some citation to attempt to justify the use of restraints
Cop department: We need new ways to needlessly escalate our traffic stops!
Cop: Hold my donut!
Huh?
@@PlAiNJaNe521well most police officers don’t drink on duty so it’s a play on words of “hold my beer”
“Escalade” a traffic stop? How about “escalate” instead. 😉
@@Primus54 ohh you're right thanks!
@jrwynd ah ha! Makes much more sense lol ty
The fact that police aren't required to know the law, at least as it relates to what they are and are not allowed to do, is mind boggling. The fact they can just arrest and "let the court figure it out" is insane to me.
Right? I wouldn’t expect them to know all the nuances of each and every law and the precedents that have been set, of course, but when it pertains to their own actions and the rights that people have when dealing with them, the police _should_ know the ins-and-outs of those laws. They should have their knowledge regularly tested and updated when it comes to case law or newly passed laws. Erroneously detaining, arresting or ticketing a person should not happen with such regularity. Obviously you are still going to have those who abuse their power anyway, but we shouldn’t _also_ have those who genuinely don’t even know what they are allowed to do.
@@imaginekudryavka9485 couldn't have said it better myself
@imaginekudryavka9485
Yes, because as they tell any regular citizen, "ignorance of the law is no defense."
So you think cops making $20 an hour should also be lawyers? So you should need to go to law school and pass the bar to be a cop?
@dgoody84
Nope.
That said, a cop shouldnt be able to get away with abusing your rights just because they "didnt know."
Just like normal citizens, ignorance of the law should be no defense for cops.
Edit: in fact, cops, along with anyone working in a position to enforce laws in any way, should be held to a higher standard than normal citizens, due to the nature of thier positions, but thats just my opinion.
The fact that she can't admit a mistake without trying to justify and he points it out. "I don't want to argue... Say 'my bad' and move on" And that's exactly ALL that NEEDED to happen. Her tone is so derogatory and self-righteous. She presents as the type of person that does not take well to having mistakes pointed out.
She's worse than that, the phony nice act is exactly that.. phony. The first words she says in the video is her calling into dispatch making the guy out to be a dangerous threat, then she turns right around and smiles in his face. She's disgusting, no accountability and a sharks smile.
The sergeant really said to arrest the guy and let the judge decide if it's a valid arrest. He has no problem just arresting people and writing bogus charges. Whatever the judge does with it is fine with him. What a pos. He knows there's never any consequences against him.
Thats the way it is here in West Virginia a lot! I did absolutely nothing wrong and drove away with $2000 in tickets. Went to court, cop was 1 1/2 hrs late, when he finally got there, he didn't even remember the stop. I walked out of court with the 2000 in tickets plus $525 in court costs. I got a lawyer and didn't have to pay a dime. The whole stop was bs to begin with 🤔
The terrible thing is that even if he wins his suit he will still have an arrest record.
@@lilibyrd9319Yep, that's the whole point
@@lilibyrd9319and another very unfortunate terrible thing is, if he wins his suit the cop that violated his rights won’t have to pay a single fucking penny. It’ll come out if tax payer dollars. These cops that like to go around fucking with people like it’s no big deal should be individually sued and have to pay the lawsuit monies themselves. I feel like that would really make them get their act together. But I’m just some random dude on RUclips what do I know?!? 😂
It's crazy how police hate a citizen adhering to their rights. It's impossible for them to be wrong
They actually have proven that if you refuse the plea bargain by the prosecutors and assert your constitutional right to a trial, they WILL punish you. It’s called a “trial penalty “and in the federal courts the sentences of plea deals vs losing a jury trial were absolutely staggering. Like 3 vs 20 years type of difference.
People act like our system is fair. Only to the cops, prosecutors, and judges who further their careers with no regard for the collateral damage.
Narcissist. No surprise here
It's a little more than that. He kept rubbing it in over and over after she apologized multiple times.
There's really nothing more to discuss after that point and he just kept instigating and making a problem.
@@DrummerJacob She "apologized," but then immediately blamed him for her bad driving which nullifies the so-called apology.
@Ray Finkle I tend to agree with you, and I hope you got over missing that field goal...it could've happened to anyone! :D
Imagine that. “Im not going to sit out here with somebody for an hour” and not at least send them to court. What a disgusting man, more power driven decisions.
One could even argue that that is retaliatory. I hope the lawyer picks up on that.
@@hardanheavybecause it is… The officer is punishing him for rightfully complaining. Police officers do not entertain the idea of not always being right.
He was there just 5 minutes..
Many videos have cops saying that the victim is not going to waste their time. Last time I checked, time is all a cop has during his duty hours. Of course, taking time with a person keeps him from finding someone else to badger so in that regard it might be wasting his time since he is delayed from finding others not violating the law.
He has an illegal quota to meet after all. Any interaction that doesn’t end in an arrest or citation is a net negative for the officer.
You can’t fight reasonable suspicion, all a cop has to say is two words “ I believed “, and that’s the end of story for us!!
when there's strong evidence that a reasonable person wouldn't have shared the cop's belief based on what they could've witnessed, you can absolutely win a lawsuit. but cops are often not held personally accountable in any way as long as they claim to have been acting in good faith.
You can fight probable cause through.
They need to get rid of this “Obstruction law” and have it rewritten….start charging and hold all these power hungry cops accountable
Add a clause to it that charges the cop with obstruction of rights if they attempt to apply it without a primary charge.
WE need to do this. It is up to US to force politicians to wreck stupid laws.
"Obstruction" is clearly defined in most states. The issue is that cops can make up nonsense to arrest people for bruising their egos and feel emboldened to do it because they rarely get punished for it.
it's written pretty clearly as is, they just do not follow the law
They are misusing it. It's not what they say it is.
The fact she keeps passing the buck saying my sgt told me to do this is just shows 0 accountability
Her sergeant gave an unlawful order and she carried it out
If the sargeant had told this silly female cop to shoot this man, would she have followed his unlawful orders? Her copsplaining in the end was pathetic.
Yup and this is how normally law abiding ordinary German citizens/soldier put Jews in gas chambers. This thinking can lead to extreme cases like this.
" he is in charge so I do what he says" so was Hitler soo not only is that argument stupid its historically wrong.
Not only that, in her voice you can hear she is happy doing it...
She couldn't even apologize and take accountability at the same time. This seems to be a deep issue with this weak woman, and policing is the worst field for her.
The only thing worse that an officer flagrantly violating your rights is a second officer standing next to them helping them do it.
Cops are known for gang brotherhoods. Military and gangsters and politicians also do the same thing
dont blame her. remember the video where the macho cop choked the female cop for standing up to him?
Also, nothing worse that a ‘I have to do this because my boss told me’. Have some morale courage and tell him no! Bad things happen because good people stand by and do nothing! She fails too.
@@-farang-la-fan the best response for that in work places in general is "can you give me that order in writing/recorded radio"
and also "i'm not sure if that's lawful or not, I think it's best you make the formal arrest"
@@SnakeSalmon8izback she literally made a call requesting backup that made it sound like the citizen completely ignored her lights/siren and was harassing her.
“Just following orders.” Where have we heard that before?
Mr Sergeant just said “I’d rather violate his rights instead of wasting my time”. He pretty much admitted to such. And the officer who issued that citation saying “I’m only following orders”… do you know how many atrocities in this world have been committed by people who’ve said the same. That’s NEVER an excuse, and shame on you for trying to use it as one. They’re both despicable, shame!
She did the right thing, and luckily the cheif saw the problem and addressed it as such making the sergeant go to desolation training. If she would've not given him the ticket, it would've been suicide for her career and she be labeled an uncle Tom, and the training/lack there of may have never been known by the cheif. And she would've been looked at as an officer with insubordination on her collar.
@@richardb4022You don't know what an Uncle Tom is. Suicide of career when based on merit is honorable.
@@richardb4022 not only that, if she hadn't been there or pushed back as much as she did, the sergeant absolutely would have taken the guy to jail. At the end of the day, this idiot decided to pull up behind her, keep arguing after she apologized and tried to send him on his way, and continued to blame her for something that may or may not have happened, and all the while she kept trying to defend him. She's a human being doing a difficult job and has to answer to her immediate superiors the same as any of the rest of us do. Based off of how she handled this entire situation, she should be the sergeant.
@@idiot_RC No sorry the guy isn't an idiot everything else you said is fine. However trying to excuse the fact she almost caused an accident for them makes you look like the idiot.
Yes Sgt said something dumb BUT he said it thinking he was having a private conversation with a fellow cop. Question is: are cops allowed to have politically incorrect private conversations that are caught in body cam?
Imagine for a second none of the cameras were turned on, its scary. How many law abiding citizens have lost faith in the system or worse , wrongfully charged for policing abuses!
The police have earned the public mistrust in this country.
Well duh, if they hadn't earned it, we'd still trust them lol
Yes, thats why we all hate pigs
@@g0dofimmortality Thank God for body cameras and cell phones. Imagine where we'd be today if we were still without these wonderful accountability devices. It amazes me that even though we have them this still goes on to the degree it does, when they know they are camera.
@@Recken1 NO thank God for black people who lost their lives and protest in the streets when everyone thought the cops couldn't do any wrong. Then, they force the cops to wear body cams!
They don’t care. Mistrust doesn’t hurt them like other things would
So the mayor creates an oversight bureau WITHIN the PD. What a crock. We investigated ourselves.
Where have we heard "I was just following orders" before? She has the capability to be a good cop, but she's bowing down to her corrupt and dishonest leadership. My hats off to this citizen for standing up to their bullying.
It's to put responsibility on someone else not her.
Your probably just being snarky
but for anyone who reads this and dosent know the history "just following orders" was a common excuse or reason for the natzis doing horrible things in I want to say ww2? It was bad and a wake up call of what "just following orders" can lead to
@@wolfyblackknight8321 If you think my statement of "where have we heard" needed clarification....uh thank you I guess.
@@warsurplus no problem, also I apologize if that came off as rude or combative, i asdune it was snarkibg at the officers its kind like watching someone doing something anyone else can tell is a bad idea and you just can't resist the urge to let some dry humor through. Hope your day is going well
As usual its proven again that female cops are the Absolute WORSE
Listening to her try reason with her sergeant after dude was put in cuffs is the only sign we need to know that even she knew she shouldn’t have been tryna arrest him.
Yeah, and it's a shame that "I was just doing my job and following orders" wasn't acceptable in 1940s Nuremberg but is acceptable now. Some "progress". 🤦
she wasn't trying to arrest him. she was just trying to make him submit to her to keep her ego intact.
that's why she tried to get him let him. she was bluffing about the obstruction thing from the get-go.
She's not a good cop. Stop pretending she is.
@@FighteroftheNightmanthank you lol someone said it.
She didn't want all the details to potentially come out, including dashcam, because she knew she messed up.
She's trying to weasel out of trouble, not actually help in any real way.
With no crime or traffic violation a demand for 🆔 is all about retaliation.
In Brooklyn, NY, my security patrol car was hit by an *off duty cop,* when I had the right of way.* He was childishly hostile as he removed his badge from under his shirt. Not one minute later, six suits approached me, and said, "you better watch your back," after I radioed the accident to my dispatch. Yeah, they threatened my life.
I went to the local precinct (72nd), to file a complaint. Guess what happened. *Nothing.*
Sadly, this was before mobile phones, bodycams, or dashcams.
Hell, even with bodycams, cops pull this crap because obtaining the footage is a fool's errand. Moreover, magic does exist in law enforcement, as footages magically disappear!
She admitted to making an illegal stop since the car matched a description, then proceeded to arrest the innocent man who pulled up behind her. These cops are out of their mind.
She didn't arrest him, the sergeant did. She apologised, had the dude just accepted it and driven away none of this would have happened.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 she willingly signed her name to a ticket to ruin someone’s life when she knew he was not guilty.
When did she admit to the illegal stop??? She said the initial car she pulled over matched some description...she didn't say that was wrong..?
@@Ashley2629Hmmm...even if the ticket stood it's hardly "life ruining"...😄😄😄
I disagree with this. The guy who was complaining to her was being a dickhead. So he's saying that she almost ran him off the road because she pulled in front of him and stopped immediately. But he's also saying he didn't see her lights. Yet the driver in front of the cop was able to react to her lights faster? Doesn't make much sense. If anything, it's on him for driving too close to other cars and on the first car for stopping so abruptly. You don't stop on a dime because you see cop lights behind you, you stop asap but in a safe manner.
If a wrongful arrest leads to a criminal record, then a wrongful arrest should also be ground for revocation of certificate to become a police man .
Yup, it’s only fair. We should be using the actual penalty for those who use their authority to ruin the lives of citizens, and that’s treason. Minimum of 25 years, maximum penalty is death
It's a major issue. Almost all lawyers agree that it's best to allow an unlawful arrest and fight it in court, but any arrest record is bad. If you resist an unlawful arrest, then maybe none of the other charges will stick except resisting arrest.
@@whyisblue923taken resisting arrest only applies to lawful arrests.
It’s disgusting that when a citizen refuses to comply with orders from police they know are illegal and unconstitutional, they inevitable end up being charged with BS crimes such as obstruction or disorderly with charges usually dismissed.
yeah i mean the other traffic stop was over and the guy left, so what exactly is he “obstructing”? 😵💫😵💫
Contempt of cop
So if the police told you to jump off the bridge and you don't will that be considered obstruction?
Yea I got arrested for “obstructing government operations” then it was dropped on the condition I couldn’t hold anyone liable for my false arrest.
Before there were body cams cops could make their b.s charges hold up in court. I know because it’s happened to me. Cops will lie to make sure their b.s arrest holds up in court.
Sergeant's ego was hurting so bad he "had" to give him something. Imagine feeling that small you need to swing your authority around like a weapon
That's why they become cops, fragile bruised egos
The fact that she tried to get the Sargent to let him go tells everything. She must have screwed up bad with her driving which is also why there isn't any video of the driving. I guarantee it would have won a lawsuit for him and also made the Sargent look like the dick that he is. It's amazing how often footage disappears and/or is claimed to have never been taken
No, it doesn't. She was trying to get him to go from the start, she even apologized and recognized the fact that she slammed on her brakes causing the driver to do the same. Honestly, the guy was an idiot for stopping and whining about it, but the sergeant escalated this entire situation. If he wouldn't have shown up, she would have apologized and sent the dude on his way, and if she hadn't stood up for him the sergeant probably would have taken the guy to jail instead of issuing a citation. And even if she did make a reckless driving error and it was on video, the worst outcome of that would be here getting reprimanded for reckless driving, because it's irrelevant to the contents of the lawsuit.
that 2nd officer immediately escalated for something he did not observe. He is dangerously walking the line of malfeasance by saying he has RAS to arrest him.
“Are you ordering me to cite him?”
Officers need to protect themselves from toxic leadership.
I'm sure that was just her covering her butt by deflecting blame on the record. (After all, we saw how perfectly capable she was of covering her butt by trying to blame Kern. 😒)
It was her traffic stop, not Sergeant wolfs! She was in charge of that scene.
@@gkess7106 It’s her stop, but if her Sergeant gave an order which wasn’t explicitly illegal, she could be fired for insubordination for not following it. By getting it as a formal order, she shifted all the legal and administrative liability onto him.
@@rh451 She did the absolutely right thing at that point. Her sergant decided to take the blame and should suffer the full consequences.
Man says "you cut me off..blah blah blah". If I was the officer "I am sorry you feel that way. Here is my card so you have my information. You can file a complaint at the station".
Done, over. These cops just escalate situations unnecessarily.
I love how the 2nd cop automatically takes the other cops side knowing absolutely nothing about what occured...
Oh yes. I bet this wasn't the first time this sergeant acted like a biased pighead.
Anyone who hasn't realized by now that police are just another armed violent street gang has some serious thinking to do.
@@oblivionsa7973 with qualified immunity so they can't get sued personally...
She literally admited that he commit no crime. If he didn't admit a crime by their own admission, they give up the right to force him to fork over his identification.
One big issue is ironically a lot of cops aren’t fluent with their state laws on asking for identification. That and it’s way too easy to charge someone when a cop has a bruised ego. That Sergeant wanted to give him a ticket for not yielding basically so he could use it as an excuse for the ID
@@shaun5047 They are absolutely fluent with the law. They just don't care.
@@snex000 Lmao They’re clearly not or else so many of them wouldn’t open themselves up to lawsuits. Plenty of people who’ve won huge settlements for violating someone’s rights. The thing is citizens don’t even know their state laws well enough to even know their rights are violated.
“I called backup because I have a MAN approaching me.” So she’s scared shitless as a cop. Sounds like being a cop might not be the right career choice for her.
@@jeancd3955 always people like you
@@jeancd3955 We got another mind-reader here, folks. Or maybe it's confession through projection.
Yea women like her have no business even being in uniform. I worked with a great cop who did welfare checks where I used to live. She could handle herself, was great with people, and would laugh at this "cop"
That's dumb. If an officer has two cars now pulls over and you're by yourself, it's just dangerous and bad policing to think you're just going to handle that by yourself. You have to be so incredibly biased, not to see that. What you said is astounding dumb.
All cops would have called that in, regarldess of gender. The cops who respond don't have to overstep their authority and push their weight around. But any cop that doesn't call in someone interupting a traffic stop is derelict in their duties, and unnecessarily risky.
All state statues are contoured to Terry v Ohio needing reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime before one has to identify themselves. Mr. Kearns was clever to get the officer to admit there was no crime, therefore, there was not a reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime being committed, or about to be committed, there was no crime in this incident. Until the Terry v Ohio standards are met there is no obstruction of a crime. This was a clear violation of his Fourth Amendment rights to be secure in his person and papers.
This is a slam dunk civil rights lawsuit. The woman cop admitted what her boss was doing was bullshit. Doesn’t get easier than that.
He wanted retaliation. that Sarge is the most dangerous kind of cop,let’s hope Sgt Wolf gets what he deserves.
doesn't need to be a lawsuit... needs to be a clearing out of police forces and humbling of many MANY human beings.
Has nothing to do with civil rights.
@@jameshw9751 you’re obviously not a lawyer. Has everything to do with civil rights. His rights were violated. The cops broke the law. The mechanism for redress is the courts. He sued, he wins a lot of money, the taxpayers holds those accountable by firing them. Period.
@@thanatos6902 lawsuits and firing the bad cops are not mutually exclusive.
I love when the sergeant basically says "I'm not going to properly do my job, I'll let the judge do it for me."
The sergeant doesn’t have the tolerance to have a job to interact with people, and the officer doesn’t have the balls to do what’s right.
Gotta love it when public servants lean on the Nuremberg Defense.
10:50 “he didn’t bow to my authority and I’m not gonna sit out here and be challenged! I don’t have the mental capacity to deal with facts! He needs to just bend the knee ok?!”
Fire this cop and her Supervisor, they conspired to deprive him of his civil rights. This is disgusting.
I completely agree. Corrupt cops, and the female cop should be arrested herself!?! What the hell!?! Dirty cops make me sick. This video is a classic example.
This is why every driver should have a dash cam. The police will lie! Here in Georgia there's a big problem with police officers not turning on their body cams and "accidentally" deleting videos.
“woops, i accidentally hit ,delete all, and picked yes for each prompt confirming my actions”
watching these videos is the exact reason that I bought a dashcam.
@@Recken1 I'm on my third dashcam, and it has got me out of it at least four different tickets. The last one was in Atlanta police officer who claimed that I came to a rolling stop instead of a complete stop. And since my dash cam has mph & Bluetooth, I just replayed the stop and show him... he was wrong.
Traffic cameras and police dashcams being absent tells you everything you need to know.
“I’m not going to sit out here and argue the legality of it for an hour!” Cuz he knows he wouldn’t last 5 mins in such a argument lol
Man wouldnt last 5min a law class. Pompous asshole with not an ounce of patience 😂
“That is obstruction.”
“Obstruction is a secondary crime. What crime did I commit?”
“There is no crime.”
In all of these videos I’ve watched, I’ve never made the connection that obstruction of justice has to be preceded by a main suspicion if it’s a one on one. That should be the end of of it right there but alas there are 13 more minutes.
The sgt is very unprofessional. A man child
This was beyond unprofessional. He was full of vitriol, for what? Something he wasn't even aware of
As most tend to be
Criminal giving her such a high grade. Falling back on "I'm only following orders" while still hearing in her voice that she knows this is wrong is pretty unforgivable.
As far as can tell, this guy was 100% in the right. He pulled over in irritation, but stayed back and didn't step in until approached. He was fairly calm throughout the interaction, and stood his ground on his rights.
We could use more folks like this gentleman!
The fact that she stood the thin blue line in the face of tyranny is exactly how police earn their disdain.
You'd challenge your boss and get fired?
@@DJYC21215off camera, of course :P
@@DJYC21215 having integrity would require it. If my boss asked me to be discriminatory or violate someone's rights I most definitely would refuse. Like I tell my children, doing the right thing is rarely the easiest but we do it anyways because it's the right thing.
@@pepsigamble9500 You'll then get blacklisted and will find it impossible to get another job in law enforcement. Hope your backup plan can pay the bills.
@@DJYC21215 my integrity isn't for sale. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. Just following orders hasn't been a justifiable excuse since WW2.
"I was just following orders" is the mantra of those that have committed the most heinous acts in modern history
And noone who was ever an officer should be allowed on a citizen review board
The Sgt doesn't need more training, he needs an immediate demotion at the least. And, well, ask the Nazi's at the Nuremburg trials how "I was just following orders" went for them.
He needs another job not dealing with the public..
correct
No people like that do not need to be in any position of power. Making him a hall monitor would be far to much responsibility and power as it is.
Ikr.
It’s small issues like this that will always make us distrust police. The sergeant didn’t even see what happened, he’s road raging like a crazy person. Why would anyone speak to or help the police when they always find a way to screw us over.
He is the type of officer that see any civilian as a criminal regardless of the facts.
“I’m not trying to be a bad cop”… yet she achieves this result with absolutely no effort!
The "good cops" can't and won't stop things like this from happening, good and bad doesn't matter, it's blue vs. everyone else.
She tried to talk the other cop out of a ticket, he was clearly the superior. This dude certainly didn't help his situation, and the suspected crime was well articulated. Him not agreeing is what court is for.
Almost like it's innate to the job, I'm not even an ACAB guy but they are so slimy when it comes to covering their asses it's basically mandatory for the job
@@matthoward6130 "There is no crime..." Yes, very well articulated 🙄🙄🙄
@@davefoley2825 yes, the other cop did say that. Guess who was in charge? Not her.
Thank you for being so diligent in all the cases that you review. I thoroughly enjoy watching and listening to your explanations of what is happening. I usually agree to your assessments.
I blame the male officer more than anything… Mr let’s escalate things
I want to know why someone who was not here for the incident is escalating sooo much.
Yh, that second officer was the main problem imo.
@@joelpww he’s trying to impress trashy lady cop
White knight
I blame the female officer more than anything for being an order follower.
The ORDER-FOLLOWER always bears MORE Moral Culpability than the order-giver, because the Order Follower is the one who actually performed the action and broke the law. ORDER-FOLLOWING is the pathway to every form of Evil and Chaos in our world. It should NEVER be seen as a "virtue" by anyone who considers themselves a moral human being. Order-Followers have ultimately been personally responsible and morally culpable for every form of Slavery and every single Totalitarian regime that has ever existed upon the face of the Earth.
If one develops enough ambiguous laws, we will all become guilty of "something". She screwed up due to ego "pull that car over now" and is pissed that she was caught. Sue them.
If a law to too vague or ambiguous it is often illegal and should be stuck down.
J. Edgar Hoover once said "show me the man and I'll show you the crime"
I wish they provided more on this. She stated the vehicle matched a description from he previous day, but didn't elaborate - it could have been tied to a serious crime.
There could have been sufficient clearance when she moved in front of him, but the other driver stopped abruptly, causing a near accident, or at least abrupt enough to upset the other driver. It wouldn't be the 1st time someone exaggerated claiming they were cut off. It is possible it was close because he didn't yield.
For anyone falsely arrested (here the LEO issuing the ticket did not believe he committed a crime), they should:
1. Try to meet with the prosecutor to get the citation dropped.
2. Request body cam footage and file a complaint.
3. Seek a lawyer to file suit, with the intent to accept an out of court settlement.
@@marchapril5783 When your only tool is a hammer, eventually everything starts to look like a nail.
Ambiguous laws are the problem. They rest these cases on minor differences making our rights a guessing game.
She’s ”not trying to be a bad cop” but follows a bad cops order, then she is a bad cop.
@christopheranderson8311 Not how the real world works. That was her Sargent, you likely will not have a good career, challenging your boss on a minor offense. I am sure she would fight the boss more strongly on more egregious behavior.
Not trying to be a bad cop but calls for backup because a man that isnt even walking wants to talk about the way she could have killed him
@Redridge07 Your reasoning is a major cause of the problems we're currently in. You need to grow a pair and start standing up for basic underlying things that matter, not just critical issues! Give in on the little things and you'll have nothing to stand on when those big things occur.
@@hdpro66 You obvously do not have a job. Also, "growing a pair" is so rare, that we have state and federal laws to protect those that eventually "grow a pair". We adults call it whistle blower laws. We would not need this if the worrld was as simple are your little mind thinks.
@@leovelez You have a overly simplified view of the world. It is very uncommon for people to set a wait through someone else traffic stop. This guy could have been waiting to ambush the female cop.
Why is the video captioned "massive lawsuit" yet there's no lawsuit?
Mr. Kern has every right to be upset and I hope he gets full judgment on any lawsuit he brings against these tyrants.
“Im just doing what I’m told” this isn’t a retail store this is someones life.
Some corrupt cop supervisor told me it was bad customer service that a corrupt cop threatened to arrest me for being assaulted. As if I were returning something at a store one day late.
I'm very impressed by how calmly he explained to her what she should have done instead, that she should have said no to her boss. I would have been too furious to do that.
I would have to agree, he was precise and to the point
“I’m doing what I’m told to do”, makes me sick! Know peoples rights officer lady!! 😡😡
The way this man controlled himself, stood up for himself, and stood up for his rights is literally exactly how I hope to respond if something like this ever happens to me. His interaction at about 15:00 for sure, made me see myself in him because I was thinking the whole time. “This officer needs to stand up to her sergeant and mean it; yeah he wouldn’t have liked it, but in the end, they would’ve saved the department and the sergeant a whole lotta face and money!!😂
That's one way of looking at it. Here's another. Somebody (be it cop or whoever) cut in front of him on the road. He got an immediate apology. Sensible people would have let it go at that. But he's not one of those people.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Just because her _excuse_ contained the word ‘sorry’ does not mean it was an apology, she still wasn't taking accountability. You don't know if she was lying about having already had her lights and sirens on, and she was likely lying about him having loud music on, trying to find more excuses for her reckless maneuver.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Agreed. The cops were bad, but he created his own destiny by conducting himself like an asshole - the way so mahy cops do in these videos.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 Thanks for saying something.. I was looking through all the comments on this video and wondering if I was hallucinating when I saw the guy going off the rails. While he may be right about her cutting him off and causing this whole interaction to begin with, he easily could have complied and not found himself in this situation. Unless, of course, there was a reason to not want to identify yourself to authorities…
Failure to ID is secondary charge. No crime no ID. The officer in this case is dead wrong.
Did you see his uniform? It doesn't matter if he is dead wrong. (sarcasm) He is free to be wrong.
Had a cop try and grab my friend with PTSD, she was a passenger to a pulled over car and not in any trouble, she flinched and he then tackled her and charged her for resisting arrest. This lead to her overdose. Only good cop is Officer Down.
All he wanted was an apology without her adding but you’re wrong to so
failing to yield to an emergency is a traffic violation, which is a crime....so yes ID was needed to be given. Did you not hear what AtA said about that state being a stop and ID state.
@@jamesnesbitt2941 So he was in the wrong but wanted an apology from her lmfao....how entitled does that make him.
It’s honestly sickening how much leniency cops have. I can’t think of any other profession the enables people to constantly get away with acts that no one else would
How many other professionals would keep their jobs if they knew as little about what they were supposed to be doing and made as many errors as cops do? (And that's not counting shooting their 'clients'!)
👍
I think it boils down to what is called Chevron Deferance . I.e. cops can't be wrong in ambiguous situations.??????
This Sergeant is a very important and busy man. (10:52) "I'M NOT GOING TO SIT OUT HERE ARGUE WITH SOMEBODY FOR AN HOUR!" even though he has literally only been there FOR JUST 5 MINUTES! What a colossal egomaniac douchebag! Verdict first, trial after! She doesn't want the man arrested and this corrupt abusive Sergeant overrules her.
It’s any government job, especially the ones with unions.
It’s fucking disgusting.
Next time, put on your ‘big girl pants’ and deal with the problem you caused rather than call for male backup. Ridiculous!
This illustrates the extremely alarming problem with police. When an officer KNOWS that something is wrong and STILL continues any way.
WELL DONE ATA
ABSOLUTELY!!!! I think that was the most important part of video, even tho it was only tickets , tomorrow it could be a shooting or etc....And a good cop like the lady seemed to be , just goes with whatever ....That's suck imo....Betrays trust!
When ego overrides common sense
Seriously Alarming! George Floyd would be alive today if 3 officers had not deferred to Chauvin’s seniority.
@@carolwagner9044 George would have died no matter what. Dude was a thug that was high on all sorts of stuff. No correlation but nice try.
@@jordan9604 So you support knees to neck. Interesting....
This whole situation is ridiculous and he (the sergeant) escalated it so much with his behavior. Situations like these are what the public is scared of. This man should not have gotten in any trouble at all. The fact that he did is a gross misuse of their authority
So…if some officer is on a power trip and can’t control their anger, we are going to catch charges? Very scary.
Not just an officer a sergeant
This was disgusting. That Sergeant should've been fired and the other officer doesn't belong in the police.
The fact that she's "just doing what she's told" is infuriating. She had way more choices than what she chose to do.
Several years ago an acquaintence of mine told that "I just did what my boss told me to" line to a judge and she spent 5 years in prison.
Thing is, this is a classical issue. We as humans often defer to others who we believe have authority even when we know they are ordering things which might be wrong, illegal, or even inhumane. Decades back a psychological study was done where it proved "normal" citizens were quite willing to risk other people's lives if told to do things that they themselves believed to be unsafe. In the study, citizens were instructed by a "doctor" to give increasingly dangerous shocks even exceeding what they were told were lethal levels to a fake test subject. Very few even attempted to quit or walk away, and those who did gave in when the doctor told them it was required. Almost none of the citizens stopped before the point where the experiment pretended to kill the subject. Almost universally the excuse was that they were only doing what they were told. No one attempted to rescue the subject. None attempted to citizen arrest the doctor to stop it. Not a single citizen tried breaking into the subject's room to help revitalize him. It seems the citizens living nearby and guards at the WW2 Germany concentration camps were not extremes but merely a sign of an inherent flaw in either social mores or the human psyche in general.
The problem isn’t just these officers, but the law itself. It reinforces their bad behavior and malign use of power.
Absolutely. Those laws are so broad. Why can't cops be expected to conduct themselves without having to fall back on charges to force anyone to comply regardless of circumstance.
@@ScottServais-poet The police have become an appendage of state and corporate power. From the revolutions of the 1840s to the Paris Commune in 1871, people have been demanding the right to self-police through the democratic process. It was radical then, but it is no longer radical.
@@michaelcarrig627 Not the democratic process. The democratic process is mob rule. Self governing is a constitutional republic form of governance. The rights of the individual supercede the wants of the mob (represented by the state or not)
@@rjbourgeois5490 The "rights of the individual" is just another means to define privilege. Actual left vs right is nothing more than universal rights vs individual privilege. A republic is supposed to be a balance of both, where all people are protected from injustice while also providing their social mobility based on merit, skill and other positive traits. Unfortunately, this concept of republic has been hijacked by weaklings who wear uniforms that they don't deserve as they don't fulfill their obligations to the public as per the social contract.
@@V_for_Vovin The 'rights of the individual" is not another means to define privledge. Each individual has access to universal rights. Hence the 'rights of the individual' as every single universal right is bestowed upon each individual seperately but evenly by his creator as evident of his/her design, "we hold these truths to be self-evident". However, no argument from the rest of your statement. Fully agree there.
Doesn't the Tesla have cameras while driving? Shouldn't we be able to see EXACTLY what happened?
We will when it goes to court.
I don't think the cameras record by default. I think you have to plug in a usb drive and change some settings for the video to save.
Once an incident happens, In order to record the what happens you have to tap the record icon. Unless you have the settings that when you hit the horn it records the last 20m. But why does that matter? She just had to say, I messed up my bad and move on. Also it’s the guy cop that’s causing the situation to escalate more
Possibly the video just hasn't been released where ATA could access it as he mentions the Tesla has cameras when being arrested.
The car has to be Sentry Mode which he said he mentioned was on. So yep, he will have all angles.
People hired to enforce the laws they have no idea what the laws are. A reasonable person would conclude we live in a Police State where the police are allowed to make up their own interpretations.
The second cop barely knew what was going on he heard something briefly over dispatch and then came into the situation and started talking as if he was there the whole time now that is crazy!!
That Sargent needs to be reprimanded. She was gunna let him go at least but sarg felt angry that day I guess. What a loser
A stern talking to, that will do it..
She has no integrity. Following orders from an idiot doesn’t mean you obey. Have integrity.
He was absolutely right when he told her "Sometimes you need to stand up for yourself and say no".
The Nuremberg trials established that "Just following orders" does not make you innocent of a crime.
...and unfortunately the gang she joined is just that... a gang... a ruthless gang.