This case happened my freshman year at college. Mandy lived across the hall from my roommates and me. We had just signed to be on her enter mural basketball team. We held a memorial in our dorm common room for her. All of were crying. We couldn’t believe it. It was so sad and heartbreaking. She was beautiful and sweetheart. The world lost a lot when it lost Mandy.
This case has always been a hard one to listen to for me. I can’t imagine what you and your friends went through. She sounded like such a lovely young girl. I’m sure you’re a better person for knowing her in her short life. ❤
Is anyone else horrified as to the amount of cases where the murderer kills once, a crime of opportunity, and goes on and leads a "normal" life with a wife and kids? There are so many of these......who are these "men"??
@funwithFred just last week I thought the same thing. What causes a normal, average person to take someone's life & then just go on living their normal life, being a pillar of the community, and have a family, never getting caught or caught after 20 or more years! 😢
Gary Ridgeway (One of the worst serial killers in U.S. history) had a whole wife and kids. None of them expected him of killing. I know his wife at one point thought he was cheating on her with other women (Which he technically was). He hated women, But fell in love with his wife.
What they mean is rich people have the means and do sue over investigations becoming public. So yes law enforcement does in fact make sure they got the right person before making it known they are being investigated. It is your money they are working with, and having to spend a couple miilion to settle lawsuit because you were investigating the wrong person, is not a good thing.
You have to ask what's more likely. The man who made that statement was the "cold case" investigator, and he was offering his explanation and speculation of why the previous investigation didn't look into Bass. What's more likely: The original investigators looked into everyone except Bass. The original investigators didn't look into everyone, including Bass.
Something that ticks me off is when a person is living his best life for decades after killing somebody and then they are found guilty and only serve 20+ years to life! It drives me nuts 😡
Agreed. Unfortunately, with such an old case, the defendant is subject to the sentencing guidelines used when the crime was committed, not modern guidelines.
This ending is why I watch crime stories. The dedication to arrive at the truth always renew my faith on humanity. Thank God for good people behind all successful stories in attaining justice to the victims.
"I've watched those crime shows, & seen how many people go to prison when they give their DNA." Translation: People go to prison when they commit horrific crimes & leave their DNA, so I refuse. lol
Yes, it should have stopped totally in, let's say, 1997. Or in 2006. When did it start? When the first female ran somewhere, 2487 BC, somwhere in today's Angola.
These crime stories can be warnings to take proper precautions and look out for ourselves. However, warnings are almost never mentioned. It's taboo to do so.
I implore anyone that has experienced some form of assault as described by the woman where he entered her home under the guise to use her phone….PLEASE report these instances to police. Men like this, this type of behavior is commonly just a stepping stone to more agregious behavior. Police will likely only charge (if they can) if the victim wishes, particularly if there is no physical harm. BUT at least there would always be a record of the incident.
No one’s address should be published online, judge or not. “Daniel’s law” should have been for all. Coming from a DV survivor who’s ex husband came after me.
I am at that exact point in the video right now and I thought the same thing. I looked down and saw your comment. ALL home addresses should not be published online. For the times that practice could be beneficial, is outweighed, in my opinion, by people looking up others for not so beneficial reasons.
@Sharon68 Why do you think police don't take missing women seriously? Because it happens a lot. Men commit & get away with femicide much too often. #EndFemicide
If Mandy was having an affair with a married older man (like the suspect says) you know she would have confided in her sister or a close friend. I don't believe for a minute she was and it pisses me off that he tried to sully her reputation by saying that. The creepy way he acted towards those two women and the lies he asked his family to tell on his behalf only solidifies his guilt to me. I hope Mandy's mom and family have the closure they needed. RIP Mandy 💔
For the first case , how does the brother of the killer now even have a normal relationship with their mother?, being that he thinks his brother is guilty and their mother thinks he innocent. That has to put a strain on their relationship 💔
Because Tim was horrible to his brother and wife, they didn't lie to protect him. How many times we hear "I can't believe he did it, he was such a good person ". Being nice to some doesn't mean he's incapable of horrible things to others.
As soon as that cop said they looked for the odd man out of the community, I thought that's a mistake. I mean, sure, that can be the killer but if we've learned anything in true crime, even as fans, we know that many killers are people who knew the victim, or its the most well liked guy in the community, etc.
And Tim kind of was that "type".....I'm wondering if they had asked more of her friends at school........the women.....if his name would have come up, especially, especially given where he lived that had a clear view of her jogging route past his house.
They were actually right, seeing as everyone described the guy as different & weird, but, unfortunately they didn't investigate him. Of course they might not have known about him being different/weird until the ladies at the pool brought it to their attention.
First story - the amount of bulls--t women were expected to put up with from this creep and didn't feel they could talk about unless they had iron clad proof.
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harris exactly, nobody was holding them back from speaking but themselves. If they would have just spoken up when he was being creepy with them, maybe things would have been different.
Cops still think these type of guys look like monsters. The sad truth they hide in our cities and neighborhoods. Just remember Bundy,Gacy, and BTK. Professional men, white, families, and church going. It scares you to death if you think about it too much.
58:00 not at all placing blame on either friend, but two women were with her and perhaps if they had stayed with her or followed her through getting to her dorm this may never have happened. I am not placing blame on those girls what I'm trying to say is always have a buddy when you go out that you never leave from. My niece was drugged at a party and a guy was trying to leave with her and well blah blah blah-- I'm just saying never leave your buddy that you go with
I know it not a popular opinion but I think you're absolutely correct. We as woman need to make good choices for ourselves. There are wicked people out there. Unfortunately there is evil people willing to hurt and take advantage of other's.
That first case where the killer had no respect for women, yet his "woman" boss is the one who gathered his DNA and turned it into LE. KARMA works in mysterious ways.
Yes, this was so obvious. Small village, few men, ask around who is creepy, aggressive. Check first those. When they refuse DNA, get it secretly. Should have been resolved in the 90s.
Often one is so close to the material, almost obsessed to find and try a perpetrator successfully, one does not see what one is looking at - the old chestnut cannot see the forest for the trees.
They’re not actually investigating. They wait for a random lead. “Cold cases” that are solved 30 years later- what a joke. It’s typically the usual suspect, the loser next door and some promoted new cop finally feels like running the dna thru the system 30 years later 🤬
You can tell the homicide of this young girl, Mandy Stavik was and still is a massive point of anguish for this entire community. They all teared up at least once during their interview. When Peter Van Sant asked retired Detective Ron Peterson if he said anything to Mandy as he pulled her lifeless body out of water and he immediately broke down was heartbreaking. 4:26
Her life was literally ROBBED!! What an absolute tragedy!! She was physically and mentally fit to do great things in life- snuffed out by this EVIL CREATURE!!
Majority of these old cases in 48h it's an old man that got married and has family that committed God knows how many crimes when they were 20y/40y and got away.
Agreed! It must be difficult to talk to the police - what if they don't believe or think it's laughable, and fear of retaliation. I can't imagine keeping that to myself though.
Most people enjoy hiding their heads in the sand instead of doing the right thing!! It takes COURAGE to stand up for what’s right!! Most people are cowards.
The Kristin Smart case still makes me angry because his family continues to move around her remains like it’s a game and they continue to hurt the Smart family and those who love Kristin.
@@batmansymbol3645Lol errmm there was a missing young woman at the time? I don’t think the neighbours were being “nosey”. Maybe don’t act suspicious when there’s a criminal investigation going on tf! 🙄
Thank you to the family for not lying to protect him. Even his mom, that think he's innocent. His wife must be so relieved to get the divorce without him retaliating.
Wow Mrs. Flores could have showed some empathy for Kristin’s family. Cold. Perhaps that is part of why her son turned out to be such a creep. On the flip side go Chris Lambert!
It's so hard to believe that her dog wouldn't protect her. I've had 2 male German Shepherds, they are the most loyal protective dogs ever! Yet loving family dogs. Which I heard but never owned a female that they can be even more aggressive. My current boy is 12 yrs old & know he would protect me if it meant losing his own life regardles weapon or not...he has actually saved my life being followed by a stranger that threatened me. It almost seems as if somebody had known her dog... I am very wary on who I allow him to be friends with.
I love how they wait until ten minutes into the last one to drop the bomb that the guy they've spent the entire episode glazing up was an absolutely horrific person. They work so hard to get you to care so that they can try to alleviate him being a monster.
Wow! The behavior of Flores’ parents is very telling. Zero sympathy and/or emotion for Kristen’s family or the circumstances. They look annoyed, rather than distraught as normal parents would be.
This is sad the killer live his life and only got this? I pray the killer of my brother is caught is already 3years and we are still praying. It happened in Accra Ghana. I'm broken living by the grace of God. So i can imagine went through and what they are still going through.
I will pray for you and your family. I’m so sorry for your loss. You all deserve closure and justice to be served. Prayers and love from The Netherlands ❤
@@Z8Q8 you know the painful part of it is that my auntie is a police officer and she is doing nothing about it.i left my country to another African country that that i was born and bred.i just left everything to God.
I just watch the one where the guilty person claimed her gsd Jazzy killed her husband. I think she accidently shot the gsd while killing her husband because the gsd came to the defense of the husband. So so so sad. Jazzys remains weren't found.
Those two wamen should have reported what they know to the police especially the one that went to her bedroom and want to have sex with her they didn't do the right thing by keeping this information a secret.
Kristin’s story is very sad, campus police shouldn’t have been allowed to take this case they are just at a college! Terrible handling and victim shaming, clearly they weren’t trained for this
It also shows how uneducated he is about DNA. Blaming his brother or dad doesn't work😂. Yes they share some common markers but it's like our fingerprints.
Come on.... he's having an affair with her?! Why would she send the dog back home all by itself? That doesn't make any sense. She would have never gone out jogging with the dog if she planned to get down with this disgusting man.
So proud to be a Jersey resident. I'm soo glad our judges information is now protected well it should have been from the moment they are sworn in. But god bless Daniel's soul he died doing what any son would do. And hats off to judge Esther n her husband for staying strong 💪🏽 and thanks 48hrs for covering this.
I feel terrible for this judge who lost her son, her heroic son. But this law she advocated for, a law making it difficult to find addresses for judges, should apply to police officers and many other so-called public-servant professions as well. This tragedy could’ve been a platform not merely to the creation self-serving laws, but laws that would help many public servants outside of judges. And that’s what I find disturbing about the lack of vision in this so-called Daniels Law.
It should apply to everyone but if going to say your line of work makes you more likely a target, then at least include others just bad likely to be a target and not just your Profession!
So they didn't look into Mandy's killers family because they were so well liked. WTF! Staying quiet for over 20 years even though you think you know who killed her. WTF! The 'friend' who left Kristin in the parking lot said she was stone sober. Sounds to me like she was drugged at the party. How could the second 'friend' leave her after supposedly being so concerned at first? Why have campus police? They never do anything!
Margarita leaving Kristen alone by herself in the parking lot is why she was abducted. My grandma always taught us the buddy system never leave alone anywhere, no matter what. My heart goes to Kristen's family 💜
That's a horrible thing to say. She wanted to go home, but Kristin refused. Are you suggesting that Margarita should have stayed out late when she was trying to be responsible?
@@VioletJoy sorry, she didn’t use good judgment, leaving her newfound friend alone. She admitted she was a wallflower, so it wasn’t a sense of responsibility that made her return to her dorm, but social awkwardness.
I guess they couldn't bring up his behavior with the other 2 girls because it would prejudice this case. But to me it shows erratic behavior around the time Becky was murdered
So sad. I grew up in WA, class of 89’ & a previous runner,…this cldve easily been me had i not grown more concerned w/the Green River Killer still not caught at the time.
Not to point fingers, but two of Kristen Smarts friends just abandoned her. The second friend shouldn’t have allowed that creep to take Kristen to her room. Knowing that he had a bad rep of being a groper.
Stop with the whole "it's so safe we leave our doors unlocked." No where is safe. Always be alert🙏🏽 And these 2 woman waiting 20yrs to speak up? Cmon ladies let's do better.
Wow, i watch and have watched a lot of these sort of crime stories but this one upset me. What a waste, so sorry for your loss Mum, the dog, the family, the officers, the friends and all who knew her. R>I
Pay day one day. Do not be deceived, God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature he will reap distruction. The one who sows to please the spirit, from the spirit he will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:7,8 Jesus died 4 you believe and repent.
I’m now in mid 70s. Sowed untold wild oats in the 60s - so thankful for a long life after so very many poor decisions! 🙏🏼💝💯 I’m not saying Mandy was sewing wild oats … just owning my own stuff. I’ve followed this case for years - so grateful it was solved … her precious mom … 😥
There are somethings that happened to me, like many other young ladies, that I didn't even know how to begin to report. My family was not going to believe me when I tell them my sister's ex boyfriend from high school did the unthinkable. And they don't want the shame of the community, my parents were too egotistical.
I don't know how these people get away with their evil deeds for so long. In the old days if an Attorney thought that the suspect was guilty, they wouldn't even consider defending them - if may memory serves me correctly.
Im curious to know how on earth did that German shepherd not protect that girl. I usually always always see German shepherds protect their owners and loved ones. Even in over exaggeration. I always see people have German shepherds in their front yard yapping and barking at any little thing that moves.
Agreed but we don’t know that the dog didn’t try to, the cops said it’s likely the man kicked the dog and left it in ditch before attacking the owner, also every dogs are different. I would not hold my dog responsible for the actions of unhinged humans at gunpoint 😂
This is already heartbreaking 😢😢😢😢 poor sweetheart I am devastated for you all I really am. It's totally unfair I despise low lifes who treat good people this way.
I think she was drugged to have been past out on the lawn that way, and I think that Cheryl girl was not a good person -knowing well what dude Flores reputation was, she still allowed her to go with him by herself in such condition, and I dont believe her story that she left because of Flores tried to kiss her, she just aint no good, and didn't gaf and left...smfh. I really admire Lambert, Mr. Murphy and all who never gave up to find justice for Kristen. Those parents of Flores sure did help him with Kristen's crime...they both should be locked up also. Such a sad case.
Don’t feel sorry for his wife. You stayed with him for 30 years. And to think that she never saw signs of his sociopathy toward women is very hard to believe
The opposite could be said about the friend. Why did she have to leave her friend? If she wouldn’t have left her, maybe this wouldn’t have happened. So it could go either way.
I mean, I'm glad those two women eventually came forward. But I wish they had done so the second they had that thought. Years of anguish could have been saved, as well as whatever crimes he was able to commit. His ex wife probably endured a lottttttt. She could have been set free so much earlier!!
How many of these wretched monsters have taken loved ones from us ? We make them comfortable while people advocate for their rights and abolish their death sentences. We have become so sick that people protest for the closing of all prisons. For the monsters and their advocates .. I am your enemy.
innocent, precious and lovely-what a tragedy she had her life taken.....thank God for the DNA training received by the detective who found her-how did those 2 women keep their information to themselves about the killer? the sweet young woman for sure did NOT have a consensual relationship with that monster
Im not perfect and haven't made the best choices, but why do women choose to stay with people like him? Im sure she could've found a way to leave him before 30 years passed.
This case happened my freshman year at college. Mandy lived across the hall from my roommates and me. We had just signed to be on her enter mural basketball team. We held a memorial in our dorm common room for her. All of were crying. We couldn’t believe it. It was so sad and heartbreaking. She was beautiful and sweetheart. The world lost a lot when it lost Mandy.
Sounds like she was an exceptional young woman. Very sad story.
This case has always been a hard one to listen to for me. I can’t imagine what you and your friends went through. She sounded like such a lovely young girl. I’m sure you’re a better person for knowing her in her short life. ❤
So sorry, it seems in most of these videos angels are taken too soon.
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Ugh how terrifying
Is anyone else horrified as to the amount of cases where the murderer kills once, a crime of opportunity, and goes on and leads a "normal" life with a wife and kids? There are so many of these......who are these "men"??
Evil demons more like it!
I think same knowing the killer of my brother maybe somewhere living his life and i here call everyday for the past 3years
@@Emdel237 I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother and I pray law enforcement catches whoever took his life 🙏🏽
@funwithFred just last week I thought the same thing. What causes a normal, average person to take someone's life & then just go on living their normal life, being a pillar of the community, and have a family, never getting caught or caught after 20 or more years! 😢
Gary Ridgeway (One of the worst serial killers in U.S. history) had a whole wife and kids. None of them expected him of killing. I know his wife at one point thought he was cheating on her with other women (Which he technically was). He hated women, But fell in love with his wife.
"We didn't investigate him because they're prminent in the community". WHAT THE ACTUAL PHUQUE???
What they mean is rich people have the means and do sue over investigations becoming public. So yes law enforcement does in fact make sure they got the right person before making it known they are being investigated. It is your money they are working with, and having to spend a couple miilion to settle lawsuit because you were investigating the wrong person, is not a good thing.
You have to ask what's more likely.
The man who made that statement was the "cold case" investigator, and he was offering his explanation and speculation of why the previous investigation didn't look into Bass.
What's more likely:
The original investigators looked into everyone except Bass.
The original investigators didn't look into everyone, including Bass.
I’m sure they realise their error, the local police clearly cared about the case
Two tiered justice system… the ones with the gold make, and often break the rules..
EXCELLENT! Reinventing the English spelling! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 EXCELLENT!
Something that ticks me off is when a person is living his best life for decades after killing somebody and then they are found guilty and only serve 20+ years to life! It drives me nuts 😡
I couldn’t agree with you more! Doesn’t quite seem like justice to me.
at least he wont be coming out
One of the problems with the time given them is what was on the books at the time of their crime.
Yeah, they got to have a life, get married, and have kids etc.
Agreed. Unfortunately, with such an old case, the defendant is subject to the sentencing guidelines used when the crime was committed, not modern guidelines.
This ending is why I watch crime stories. The dedication to arrive at the truth always renew my faith on humanity. Thank God for good people behind all successful stories in attaining justice to the victims.
God Bless Mandy's Mom with peace that surpasses all understanding. Peace SO Sweet, that it can only come from God.
Seeing her missing her baby breaks my heart 🥺🥺 Like she said people say you're strong but they don't see behind closed doors 😔
Amen and Amen!
Amen
"I've watched those crime shows, & seen how many people go to prison when they give their DNA." Translation: People go to prison when they commit horrific crimes & leave their DNA, so I refuse. lol
If he was less of a peasant, he would have said: I have seen how police uses DNA to plant it somewhere and frame innocent people.
To see the detectives get teary eyed, you know they really care and never forget …. They are wonderful caring men…. 😢❤
This is a cruel world with many cruel heartless people 😢
Exactly Donald old Trump 😢
Lots of good people, too. Don't focus too heavily on the bad.
It's not the world, it's the people in it.
And 30+ years later, women are still being killed while out for a run. What a heart breaking story.
Exactly why I stopped running alone
Yes, it should have stopped totally in, let's say, 1997. Or in 2006. When did it start? When the first female ran somewhere, 2487 BC, somwhere in today's Angola.
@kelseymariel2127 Yes stay safe. We as adults feel we shouldn't be scared to do things alone BUT it's the world we live in.
These crime stories can be warnings to take proper precautions and look out for ourselves. However, warnings are almost never mentioned. It's taboo to do so.
That’s why you stay locked and loaded!!
I implore anyone that has experienced some form of assault as described by the woman where he entered her home under the guise to use her phone….PLEASE report these instances to police. Men like this, this type of behavior is commonly just a stepping stone to more agregious behavior. Police will likely only charge (if they can) if the victim wishes, particularly if there is no physical harm. BUT at least there would always be a record of the incident.
No one’s address should be published online, judge or not. “Daniel’s law” should have been for all. Coming from a DV survivor who’s ex husband came after me.
I am at that exact point in the video right now and I thought the same thing. I looked down and saw your comment. ALL home addresses should not be published online. For the times that practice could be beneficial, is outweighed, in my opinion, by people looking up others for not so beneficial reasons.
@ YES!!
I literally just posted the same thing. Protection for every person!
31:45 "Tim Bass's trial was turning into a family reunion from hell." 🤣😂
RIGHT! 😂😂😂
Haha that was a good one
Bass gets only 27 years? That is not justice. But I am glad Mandy’s mom was happy with it; she deserves to be happy. She lost the most.
It really pisses me off that so often cops don't take missing women seriously!!!!
Only 1 in 1,000 cases there is foul play.
That's really not accurate at all. It's just one of those popular things to say.
@Sharon68 Why do you think police don't take missing women seriously? Because it happens a lot. Men commit & get away with femicide much too often. #EndFemicide
SHARON IS BIAS..NEXT TIME SAY MISSING PEOPLE GOOBER
Back then they didn’t but now they do
If Mandy was having an affair with a married older man (like the suspect says) you know she would have confided in her sister or a close friend. I don't believe for a minute she was and it pisses me off that he tried to sully her reputation by saying that. The creepy way he acted towards those two women and the lies he asked his family to tell on his behalf only solidifies his guilt to me. I hope Mandy's mom and family have the closure they needed. RIP Mandy 💔
For the first case , how does the brother of the killer now even have a normal relationship with their mother?, being that he thinks his brother is guilty and their mother thinks he innocent. That has to put a strain on their relationship 💔
Because Tim was horrible to his brother and wife, they didn't lie to protect him. How many times we hear "I can't believe he did it, he was such a good person ". Being nice to some doesn't mean he's incapable of horrible things to others.
As soon as that cop said they looked for the odd man out of the community, I thought that's a mistake. I mean, sure, that can be the killer but if we've learned anything in true crime, even as fans, we know that many killers are people who knew the victim, or its the most well liked guy in the community, etc.
And Tim kind of was that "type".....I'm wondering if they had asked more of her friends at school........the women.....if his name would have come up, especially, especially given where he lived that had a clear view of her jogging route past his house.
Agreed that was a big red flag to say they focused immediately on a type
They were actually right, seeing as everyone described the guy as different & weird, but, unfortunately they didn't investigate him. Of course they might not have known about him being different/weird until the ladies at the pool brought it to their attention.
First story - the amount of bulls--t women were expected to put up with from this creep and didn't feel they could talk about unless they had iron clad proof.
Yes !!
@@dianecripps204
No one expected them to be quiet about their interactions with Bass.
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harris exactly, nobody was holding them back from speaking but themselves. If they would have just spoken up when he was being creepy with them, maybe things would have been different.
@@missmandy2049 That's what I meant. Being conditioned not to speak out.
So, the cops ask for dna from every male around town, but not the guy Mandy’s age living 3 miles away 🤦🏼♂️
Cops still think these type of guys look like monsters. The sad truth they hide in our cities and neighborhoods. Just remember Bundy,Gacy, and BTK. Professional men, white, families, and church going. It scares you to death if you think about it too much.
We want to solve this case but are overwhelmed by the (small) number of men in our village. lol
BIG MISTAKE. Small town mentality.
Right? How such a "small" decision can delay a case for decades.
58:00 not at all placing blame on either friend, but two women were with her and perhaps if they had stayed with her or followed her through getting to her dorm this may never have happened. I am not placing blame on those girls what I'm trying to say is always have a buddy when you go out that you never leave from. My niece was drugged at a party and a guy was trying to leave with her and well blah blah blah-- I'm just saying never leave your buddy that you go with
I know it not a popular opinion but I think you're absolutely correct. We as woman need to make good choices for ourselves. There are wicked people out there. Unfortunately there is evil people willing to hurt and take advantage of other's.
That first case where the killer had no respect for women, yet his "woman" boss is the one who gathered his DNA and turned it into LE. KARMA works in mysterious ways.
His Mother’s attitude, demeanor and facial expression speaks volumes!!!
Susan Flores? Yes, she is very shady
YES! like really? After what he said she says his innocent 🤦♀
Maybe she is the OG Narc of the family& her son is like her.. in her mind golden child.. 😞
@@irierocioShe probably doesn’t want to believe it.
How embarrassing is it for police departments to investigate cases for decades only to have a civilian solve the case by themselves kinda sad
Yes, this was so obvious. Small village, few men, ask around who is creepy, aggressive. Check first those. When they refuse DNA, get it secretly. Should have been resolved in the 90s.
Often one is so close to the material, almost obsessed to find and try a perpetrator successfully, one does not see what one is looking at - the old chestnut cannot see the forest for the trees.
They’re not actually investigating. They wait for a random lead. “Cold cases” that are solved 30 years later- what a joke. It’s typically the usual suspect, the loser next door and some promoted new cop finally feels like running the dna thru the system 30 years later 🤬
😂 at a water park
You can tell the homicide of this young girl, Mandy Stavik was and still is a massive point of anguish for this entire community. They all teared up at least once during their interview.
When Peter Van Sant asked retired Detective Ron Peterson if he said anything to Mandy as he pulled her lifeless body out of water and he immediately broke down was heartbreaking. 4:26
cadaver dogs are absolutely amazing, and of course animals in general
Her life was literally ROBBED!!
What an absolute tragedy!! She was physically and mentally fit to do great things in life- snuffed out by this EVIL CREATURE!!
Majority of these old cases in 48h it's an old man that got married and has family that committed God knows how many crimes when they were 20y/40y and got away.
It's very important that if someone suspects a person in a crime like this, they come forward even if it seems unlikely.
Agreed! It must be difficult to talk to the police - what if they don't believe or think it's laughable, and fear of retaliation. I can't imagine keeping that to myself though.
Most people enjoy hiding their heads in the sand instead of doing the right thing!!
It takes COURAGE to stand up for what’s right!! Most people are cowards.
Seeing the detectives so emotional-wow. And hearing her killer talk..about himself. So glad he was finally caught.
The Kristin Smart case still makes me angry because his family continues to move around her remains like it’s a game and they continue to hurt the Smart family and those who love Kristin.
How bout the nosey neighbors reporting activity at someones home instead of minding their own business
@@batmansymbol3645Lol errmm there was a missing young woman at the time? I don’t think the neighbours were being “nosey”.
Maybe don’t act suspicious when there’s a criminal investigation going on tf! 🙄
@@batmansymbol3645our neighbor thinks he's batman too
@@batmansymbol3645Oh hi Ruben Flores! Or are you Susan?
They really fumbled the Kristin Smart case...smh
Thank you to the family for not lying to protect him. Even his mom, that think he's innocent. His wife must be so relieved to get the divorce without him retaliating.
Good work everyone! 👏 rest in peace Mandy ❤ from the U K
Thank you 48hrs for featuring Mandy’s case.
Blessings to all. 😢❤🙏
Beautiful girl, beautiful life lost! RIP Mandy 😥
I have already watched these 3 episodes but I'm gonna watch this Marathon because 48 Hours is my fav show!
Wow Mrs. Flores could have showed some empathy for Kristin’s family. Cold. Perhaps that is part of why her son turned out to be such a creep. On the flip side go Chris Lambert!
Tim is most certainly guilty and he should’ve received a life sentence! Glad he was caught and will pay for taking Mandy’s life.
It's so hard to believe that her dog wouldn't protect her. I've had 2 male German Shepherds, they are the most loyal protective dogs ever! Yet loving family dogs. Which I heard but never owned a female that they can be even more aggressive.
My current boy is 12 yrs old & know he would protect me if it meant losing his own life regardles weapon or not...he has actually saved my life being followed by a stranger that threatened me.
It almost seems as if somebody had known her dog...
I am very wary on who I allow him to be friends with.
The attacker probably beat the dog.
Since dad is dead... Can we say dad did it??? Bro, are you available? Somebody, anybody???
"Ok, my son had sex with her, but my husband found out and killed her". lol
It breaks my heart to see inocent people died like this 💔
I love how they wait until ten minutes into the last one to drop the bomb that the guy they've spent the entire episode glazing up was an absolutely horrific person. They work so hard to get you to care so that they can try to alleviate him being a monster.
@17thknight
Who was a monster?
Wow! The behavior of Flores’ parents is very telling. Zero sympathy and/or emotion for Kristen’s family or the circumstances. They look annoyed, rather than distraught as normal parents would be.
This is sad the killer live his life and only got this? I pray the killer of my brother is caught is already 3years and we are still praying. It happened in Accra Ghana. I'm broken living by the grace of God. So i can imagine went through and what they are still going through.
Are there no detectives you can afford, and no show like 48 Hours there??
I will pray for you and your family. I’m so sorry for your loss. You all deserve closure and justice to be served. Prayers and love from The Netherlands ❤
@BiancaFaid86 thank you so much God bless you.
@@Z8Q8 you know the painful part of it is that my auntie is a police officer and she is doing nothing about it.i left my country to another African country that that i was born and bred.i just left everything to God.
I detest Animal cruelty too , I know that sweet German Shepherd Tyra really attempted to save Amanda 😢😢😢😢 x x x x
I just watch the one where the guilty person claimed her gsd Jazzy killed her husband. I think she accidently shot the gsd while killing her husband because the gsd came to the defense of the husband. So so so sad. Jazzys remains weren't found.
Mandy’s mom is breaking my heart. A mother’s love for her child is boundless, and you can see the pain in her beautiful eyes. 💔
Those two wamen should have reported what they know to the police especially the one that went to her bedroom and want to have sex with her they didn't do the right thing by keeping this information a secret.
Kristin’s story is very sad, campus police shouldn’t have been allowed to take this case they are just at a college! Terrible handling and victim shaming, clearly they weren’t trained for this
I understand defense attorneys have a job to do but idk how some of them can live with themselves
Money and narcissism.
The kudos of winning and building a strong reputation. I don’t know how they do this
DNA doesnt lie....finally, justice for Mandy...and Kristin , worst pain losing your child, condolences to the families!
It also shows how uneducated he is about DNA. Blaming his brother or dad doesn't work😂. Yes they share some common markers but it's like our fingerprints.
Come on.... he's having an affair with her?! Why would she send the dog back home all by itself? That doesn't make any sense. She would have never gone out jogging with the dog if she planned to get down with this disgusting man.
Beautiful mom and family thankgod they got justice ❤
Excellent work. Thanks very much.
So proud to be a Jersey resident. I'm soo glad our judges information is now protected well it should have been from the moment they are sworn in. But god bless Daniel's soul he died doing what any son would do. And hats off to judge Esther n her husband for staying strong 💪🏽 and thanks 48hrs for covering this.
I feel terrible for this judge who lost her son, her heroic son. But this law she advocated for, a law making it difficult to find addresses for judges, should apply to police officers and many other so-called public-servant professions as well. This tragedy could’ve been a platform not merely to the creation self-serving laws, but laws that would help many public servants outside of judges. And that’s what I find disturbing about the lack of vision in this so-called Daniels Law.
@@johnmartyn9018
Then why not extend it to everyone?
Amen! It should apply to everyone. Having it apply only to judges shows how superior she thinks she is.
Exactly. It should apply to everyone.
It should apply to everyone but if going to say your line of work makes you more likely a target, then at least include others just bad likely to be a target and not just your Profession!
Those defense attorneys are despicable.
They'd sing a different tune if it were their daughter
Amen
Yes!
THEY WENT 8 YRS TO COLLEGE TO BECOME DEFENSE ATTORNEYS GOOBER. REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY REALLY FEEL
“Your own backyard” an awesome podcast! Listen to it!
Absolutely. It’s the first podcast I ever listened to and I didn’t even pause until it ended. Lambert is a real Hero.
So they didn't look into Mandy's killers family because they were so well liked. WTF! Staying quiet for over 20 years even though you think you know who killed her. WTF! The 'friend' who left Kristin in the parking lot said she was stone sober. Sounds to me like she was drugged at the party. How could the second 'friend' leave her after supposedly being so concerned at first? Why have campus police? They never do anything!
Margarita leaving Kristen alone by herself in the parking lot is why she was abducted. My grandma always taught us the buddy system never leave alone anywhere, no matter what. My heart goes to Kristen's family 💜
That's a horrible thing to say. She wanted to go home, but Kristin refused. Are you suggesting that Margarita should have stayed out late when she was trying to be responsible?
It wasnt anyones fault but the killer.
@@VioletJoy sorry, she didn’t use good judgment, leaving her newfound friend alone. She admitted she was a wallflower, so it wasn’t a sense of responsibility that made her return to her dorm, but social awkwardness.
I agree, always stay in the buddy system, look at Natalee Holloway!!
@@luzvaldes1030 Whatever the case, she was in an uncomfortable position. What would you suggest she do?
So much pain
I guess they couldn't bring up his behavior with the other 2 girls because it would prejudice this case. But to me it shows erratic behavior around the time Becky was murdered
So sad.
I grew up in WA, class of 89’ & a previous runner,…this cldve easily been me had i not grown more concerned w/the Green River Killer still not caught at the time.
His wife: "Guilty as hell. I lived in prison with him for 28: years. Now it's his turn." 💞🙏
Not to point fingers, but two of Kristen Smarts friends just abandoned her. The second friend shouldn’t have allowed that creep to take Kristen to her room. Knowing that he had a bad rep of being a groper.
I really don’t know how these defence attorneys sleep at night knowing their clients are guilty
Stop with the whole
"it's so safe we leave our doors unlocked."
No where is safe. Always be alert🙏🏽
And these 2 woman waiting 20yrs to speak up? Cmon ladies let's do better.
Imagine being a parent that protects your rapist, murderous son and denies a family closure and to bury their child.
Wow, i watch and have watched a lot of these sort of crime stories but this one upset me.
What a waste, so sorry for your loss Mum, the dog, the family, the officers, the friends and all who knew her.
R>I
God bless all these people
"He was known as Chester the molester," but she trusted him to take a highly intoxicated Kristin to her door room by himself.
Pay day one day. Do not be deceived, God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature he will reap distruction. The one who sows to please the spirit, from the spirit he will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:7,8 Jesus died 4 you believe and repent.
Amen 🙏 ❤
@@EvenSoMaranathawhatta name!! Saw boat named MARANATHA 12/21/24.PTL!!..didn't have camera, hoping it's still docked next time we go thru!!
I’m now in mid 70s. Sowed untold wild oats in the 60s - so thankful for a long life after so very many poor decisions! 🙏🏼💝💯 I’m not saying Mandy was sewing wild oats … just owning my own stuff. I’ve followed this case for years - so grateful it was solved … her precious mom … 😥
To wait 30 years to come forward!! wtf
I am thinking the same thing. Like yes wtf? And they kinda want to pat themselves on the back for speaking up now.
There are somethings that happened to me, like many other young ladies, that I didn't even know how to begin to report. My family was not going to believe me when I tell them my sister's ex boyfriend from high school did the unthinkable. And they don't want the shame of the community, my parents were too egotistical.
I don't know how these people get away with their evil deeds for so long. In the old days if an Attorney thought that the suspect was guilty, they wouldn't even consider defending them - if may memory serves me correctly.
Im curious to know how on earth did that German shepherd not protect that girl. I usually always always see German shepherds protect their owners and loved ones. Even in over exaggeration. I always see people have German shepherds in their front yard yapping and barking at any little thing that moves.
You watch to much TV and Internet k.
@@kittensncasketno normal
Interactions with German shepherds in real life are no joke
Agreed but we don’t know that the dog didn’t try to, the cops said it’s likely the man kicked the dog and left it in ditch before attacking the owner, also every dogs are different. I would not hold my dog responsible for the actions of unhinged humans at gunpoint 😂
This is already heartbreaking 😢😢😢😢 poor sweetheart I am devastated for you all I really am. It's totally unfair I despise low lifes who treat good people this way.
So sad god bless all the people who helped
Thank Youuuuu...Greetings from Switzerland
the kristin smart case, are campus police real cops or are they the equivalent of mall cops?
Mall Cops
@@dinazughyar5898 that explains alot.
Flores looks evil 👿
Who is cutting onions in here??
Defence lawyers should be ashamed of themselves.
I think she was drugged to have been past out on the lawn that way, and I think that Cheryl girl was not a good person -knowing well what dude Flores reputation was, she still allowed her to go with him by herself in such condition, and I dont believe her story that she left because of Flores tried to kiss her, she just aint no good, and didn't gaf and left...smfh. I really admire Lambert, Mr. Murphy and all who never gave up to find justice for Kristen. Those parents of Flores sure did help him with Kristen's crime...they both should be locked up also. Such a sad case.
I've never been this early to a video
Don’t feel sorry for his wife. You stayed with him for 30 years. And to think that she never saw signs of his sociopathy toward women is very hard to believe
She just sounds like a “pick me” girl.
Kristin should have gone back with her friend. It's not the friend's fault.
The opposite could be said about the friend. Why did she have to leave her friend? If she wouldn’t have left her, maybe this wouldn’t have happened. So it could go either way.
@ChasRiaStJohn If one wants to go home, both go home. Home is safe and stranger parties are not.
It's not Kristin's fault either.
I mean, I'm glad those two women eventually came forward. But I wish they had done so the second they had that thought. Years of anguish could have been saved, as well as whatever crimes he was able to commit. His ex wife probably endured a lottttttt. She could have been set free so much earlier!!
In the first case all the local people seem really lovely ❤ rip
Some things never change. Same crimes against women today as 30 yrs ago. Why is that?
Just like the same against men as many years ago, cuz bad people are unfortunately everywhere. I don't understand your comment.
Because human beings are still capable of evil? What are you even asking?
How many of these wretched monsters have taken loved ones from us ? We make them comfortable while people advocate for their rights and abolish their death sentences. We have become so sick that people protest for the closing of all prisons. For the monsters and their advocates .. I am your enemy.
Bakery owner is a G!
Absolutely I want to be on her team!
Thank you!
Why her friend or her parents didn’t call the real police? Campus police is always a joke
My father was raised in Acme , we floated the Nooksack every summer ! This hit home 😢. RIP Mandy
I believe in innocent until proven guilty but some of these defense attorneys need to just be quiet.
innocent, precious and lovely-what a tragedy she had her life taken.....thank God for the DNA training received by the detective who found her-how did those 2 women keep their information to themselves about the killer? the sweet young woman for sure did NOT have a consensual relationship with that monster
They had no evidence he did it. They just thought he was gross and creepy.
Im not perfect and haven't made the best choices, but why do women choose to stay with people like him? Im sure she could've found a way to leave him before 30 years passed.