They have a little too much fluff in their episodes. I wish they would not waste peoples time. “How did that make you feel?” Who tf cares! This isn’t a soap opera!
@@gregshell8570 What does it matter? He asked her the question of whether killed this man in this segment and she paused and took a around 10 seconds to answer NO.
Not necessarily. Tina likes to play mind games. That's why she paused, because she wanted to play the game on _her_ terms. A distinctly unlikeable person.
Tina desperately wants to feel important. What a weird, jealous and possessive woman. She either killed Fred or knows who did. I love my sister but those two are crossing a line with their sisterhood. Gives me the creeps.
I miss Harold Dow too. He was one of the best. He passed too young at age 62 from a sudden asthma attack while sitting behind the wheel of his parked car.
Let me get this straight, three police officers responded to a shots fired call... but they didn't see the body of the victim until the neighbors called them back the next day??
As a cop who’s responded to a ton of similar calls - almost never is there much information other than someone called and they heard a gun shot in this 3 block general area. And it was at night and like they said it was Halloween and there were decorations in the yard so likely easy to miss. The neighbors were probably so familiar with the yards and those decorations they immediately noticed when there was something out of place. It’s amazing how “easy” things seem to people who have never done it and are just watching it on a video.
@@theylied1776 No I don't think you do understand. First the neighbor didn't live next door, he lived down the street; if you go back to 4:45 in the video you will hear him say "just down the road." Second, as someone who has heard gunshots or even fireworks that can be mistaken as gunshots you don't always know exactly where they are coming from. There was another neighbor who said she thought the shots were coming from a hunting area that was even further away so your assertion that the police should've found the body right away when the people calling it in didn't exactly know where they were coming from is just false.
I think others are low-key, unconsciously gaslighting your comment. I agree with you that the body was right there within direct eye view; it’s not hard to notice and check it. The police officers were incompetent; they probably didn’t even go beyond what they thought was a sufficient search and didn't check yards or above street level it’s so obvious.
@@milano888 The victim's next-door neighbor made the complaint. Three officers show up, and not one of them walks next door? That is beyond incompetent.
The sister, Tina, is one of the most manipulative people I've seen. She says Fred had the upper hand persuading the court for custody of the children because he was "a Ph.D. professor in persuasive communications," completely ignoring the fact that her sister was a freaking attorney whose job was ALSO to use persuasive communications. It shows me that she "cherry-picks" and twists information to suit her narrative.
Narcissism has a genetic component, and an environmental one. It wouldn’t be surprising to find siblings who share the trait. They are extremely manipulative, controlling, deceitful, abusive, cold hearted, delusional, and are most often without empathy. They feel NO GUILT, they justify ANYTHING they do. They aren’t entirely human, as they lack humanity, other than when they are trying to “manage their facade”. So many are filled with evil intentions, towards anyone who challenge them & their superiority/authority. I’ve had 53+ years of close up study. They don’t choose to be monsters, it’s something they are born to, but they are incredibly destructive.
As soon as I saw her wearing that white doctor's coat with the stethoscope around her neck despite being only a nurse practitioner, I knew she was a few screws loose. Ditto using that image on the ads for her clinic.
@lizfinkelstein1323 I agree about Tina after watching the video. However I wouldn't to use her work appearance as an explanation for her psyche. In my experience, I've worked with wonderful Nurse practitioners who also wear white lab coats and use stethoscopes. Additionally the neck is a very common place to store a stethoscope when not in use.
His last show was really touching, and the way his nephew spoke about him... still gets me to this day! I hope his family are in a great place, knowing that he was recognized as a great human being and an excellent reporter!
If I was being asked what time I went to the store 2 weeks ago, I might have to think about it that long. You don't have to think about whether or not you murdered someone that much.
What I find so sad about so many separation or divorce cases is the lack of ability from both adults to reach an amicable solution between them, putting their kids first. Someone always has to win! If there's one thing I'm proud of in my life, it's the way my ex husband and I have handled our separation. Neither of us have custody. When my 7 year old son wants to see his Dad, or his Dad wants to see his son, it happens...because I do not own my son. I WANT him to have his Dad and I want his Dad to have his son. I want my son to have me. Sometimes my ex husband rings up on a Saturday when my son is due home and says 'erm..he'd like to stay again tonight is that ok?' You know what, YES it is! - because if that makes my son and his Dad happy, then that makes me happy! Yes, I miss my son when he stays an extra night or two....so I call him, and I chat to him and I tell him to have a wonderful time and I can't wait to see him. When he returns, he is loved as much. It really does make my blood boil that these supposed 'adults' and 'parents' are more concerned with winning the battle and subsequently the war, rather than putting the happiness of their kids first! Oh...and the sister so obviously did it. EDIT: I've seen part 2...SPOILER ALERT.... I was wrong about the sister LOL!
@@kekewesten3869 You're welcome. I know not every case is a battle between parents but when I see mums and dads at each other the whole time, trying to win just to beat the other one, it makes me so sad! They've lost their way with what is most important - the happiness and stability of the little person they brought into this world. I find it heartbreaking.
I cannot begin to tell you how refreshing it is to hear a parent express your attitude. As a mental health professional, the selfishness, complete disregard for children’s welfare and the psychological damage I have witnessed all too often is nothing short of horrific. It is one of the things that renders divorce in this country far more traumatic than it needs to be. It is the reason it figures so routinely in the histories of criminal offenders and other kinds of terribly troubled people. You give me encouragement about what CAN be…thank you!
@@AMunoz-rh9cz Oh, you brought a tear that is so kind of you to say that! I firmly believe that if you truly love your child, you do not want to see sadness on their little faces. How anybody can deny their child(ren) someone who loves them is a complete mystery to me. Thank you!
@@nellyb2434 It’s my pleasure! As for the mystery of the “why”…there are at least four factors that contribute to this problem that I have observed so far that I would love to hear your feedback on it if you care to offer it are: 1) The US divorce process in particular (not sure about how other societies are working to improve this) is constructed as adversarial i.e. you are automatically enemies going through the divorce process rather than a demand by our system that are and will remain a family unit forever who must approach divorce as a team problem to be solved. Mediation has been steadily encouraged but has not entirely replaced “ the contest” system. 2) A great many adults did not receive adequate love as children and therefore do not know how to fully love as result. 3) If they don’t get treatment for it, many adults repeat or play out childhood trauma of all kinds, including unhealthy patterns that their parents had in their own marriage and 4) The bottom line that you don’t own your children as property-which you so eloquently pointed out-I doubt is understood by most adults. So many bad decisions are made about children’s welfare due to an inability to understand this. Your son is very lucky to have you!😊
Let me get this straight...The Houston PD not only missed her getting off the plane, she picked up her bags from the conveyor without their noticing? What??!
@@WideAwakeHuman Okay, let's say she wasn't on it. (I guess we'll find out in Part Two.) But why wasn't someone watching to see who would pick up her bags from the conveyor?
@@jimwerther Okay seriously have you ever tried finding someone you know in a crowd? Now try finding someone you don't know in a crowded airport with just a picture to go off of. Also, you completely skip over the part where they said they stopped several women who they thought might look like the one they were looking for, do you not know how easy it is for someone to slip pass them while they are with one of the other women they were looking for. Also how is it do you think they are going to know which bag was her's? I swear some of you people come up with the most idiotic stuff that has no basis in logic.
@@kenyattaclay7666 thanks, that was my point - I was a police officer for years, finding someone off of a picture isn’t that easy, much less in a crowded airport where I’ve literally lost family members before because there are just so many people it’s hard to visually inspect every person. Some people have no real experience other than watching things in videos and greatly underestimate how difficult things are irl or fail to understand that things are never as clear cut as a video synopsis make them out to be
This episode is from 2007...Ever notice that the old episodes are far better? They just MOVE, one step to the next. The newer episodes are 10 minutes of content, 34 minutes of filler. PS - RIP Harold Dow, one of the greats.
Maybe a little three way action with the sisters. Old sister has to be attracted to the man, husband too. She said the hubby was ugly. I wonder why she doesn't have a man?
Tina sounds like a very controlling, selfish, narcissistic sister. SHE had to be the main person in her sister's life or else it wasn't good enough. There's an incest trauma bond there, and she needs therapy. Your sibling should not be your main companion, its unhealthy
*48 Hours* is One of the Best Ones. *Unsolved Mystery* and *Forensic Files* are good as well. *That A&E is the WORST with actors pretending to be the people* and doing *voice-overs as the Dead people narrating their Story of how they got Murdered.* That is so Cringe. I stopped watching it, couldn't take it.
AMAZING story & would recommend reading the book. I read the book in 2008 in my young 20's when I first got in True Crime. It's a twisted & amazing story and its laid out well in the book. 'Die My Love' is the name of the book
Before ANYONE sympathizes with these evil sisters, keep in mind: Piper was not abused; she killed him because she was $7k behind in child support, his $200k life insurance, and because he had full custody. These two sisters convinced themselves that Piper was the victim. They’ve had ZERO remorse for their actions. Tina drove a wedge into that marriage from Day 1. It really is a great book.
Actually the fact that he sought sole custody speaks to his abusive nature. That's something you do if they kids are in actual danger(ie the other parent has a drug/alcohol problem, is abusive, etc ) OR if you're just trying to get revenge on the other parent. Just because he didn't deserve to die doesn't mean that his actions were absolutely disgusting.
@@ieshamusgrove7883piper was involved in her husbands execution and your gonna sit there and lecture us about how Fred trying to keep someone like that away from his kids is abusive behavior???
Isn't it funny how all victims are, loved, popular, smart, beautiful, handsome, everyone likes them, and have a great future in life, but only when they are killed or murdered, while they are alive they are not recognized
Did you not hear from the SIL how nasty he was to his ex wife? I'm thinking possible classic Narcissistic type. "Beloved professor" in public. Monster behind closed doors.
@@Odawg292002🤣🤣 that’s what I was thinking when I read that person’s comment….um, she doesn’t seem real credible, I’d need to hear about him being nasty from a more credible source to believe it
Something seems very strange about how Tina described her younger sister cuddling with her in bed because she was a child. Then they sleep together as adults too? Something strange is going on.
So strange how there is piles and piles of information about Piper missing in part 1 - maybe it will be covered in part 2 because it’s pretty obvious Piper was crazy for a long long long time before she and or her sister killed him. They make it look like they just got divorced and with his communication skills he got custody. She was totally nuts
Exactly.. that part made me laugh. They painted in as an uphill battle due to him being some debate wizz when in reality women receive custody like 85% of the time PLUS she studied law! If they awarded the father the kids then there had to be ALOT wrong with her! Women tend to assassinate character in order to get there way in court when they're losing.
It’s really dumb for them to not release them simultaneously and consecutively. I already went to another true crime channel to see what happened. It’s not 2004 anymore.
@Rich Rudemeister no. The courts usually grant custody to the primary caregiver regardless of gender. So, no. It’s very strange to award custody to a parent who is not the primary caregiver
31:40 the way she answers the question if she killed the man, she obviously wants everyone to think it was her. I think the sisters were both in it together and the plan was to create doubt that Piper did it. Just one juror who'd think maybe it was the sister would be enough
Man I hope we don’t have to wait too long until part 2 comes. I’m real curious where the wigs come into play 😂 maybe it will explain how they missed her coming off the plane 😂
What does his looks have to do with it. If he's a good man that's all that matters. I can see why her marriage fell apart. Can you imagine having her coming to stay and trying to run the show😮
Very sad seeing kids loosing their parent I'm glad the right person is in prison, and i loved Harold Dow a true LEGEND of reporting love the way he used to do his work on 48 hour's, still missed and always remembered 💯🙏💚☘love from IRELAND 🙏🇮🇪
I am a woman, but when a woman is called out to the table of equality, we cry foul IMMEDIATELY. if Fred lost battle, she would GLADLY take his home, his money, car and kids. But as soon as ANY women is held accountable OH BOY! I don't understand it why is this happening? 😮 I am ashamed at this behavior.
No ur not a woman lmaooo when a dad looses costody its not that deep cause most men aren’t leaving their jobbs to stay home and take care of their kids nor are they almost dying while giving birth to them it will never be the same
I'm not crying about it, the judge saw the evidence and gave the custody to the better parent.. simple. If there was evidence of him abusing her, then I doubt the judge would have given the kids to him..
@fulla fulla Nobody said anything about leaving their jobs. A mother doesn't automatically quit her job to stay home with kids, so I'm not sure what you're on about. It's painfully obvious that you don't have children. Also, it's loses not looses. Correct spelling isn't difficult.
I remember this from back in the day.. Piper left a mountain of evidence.. the jury came back quick.. from what I recall the sister loaned her her ID and was actually the one who visited the attorney that day (wearing a brown wig) smh two peas in a noxious pod.
For all married women, never allow your sister/relative to dictate your marriage. Imagine Tina thought Fred wa "ugly". Really who does that? She was in no position to judge hers sisters choice. The sister was dumb enough to allow a family member destroy her perfect marriage . I will feel really sad if these two sisters were let free.
@@twilit it’s obvious her sister was a big influence on her. Single women keep women single. Her sister didn’t have a man or kids or a family of her own. So she made a sister in the same boat as her
Speech speech because my mother ruined my sister's second marriage, and such a narcissist and control freak he was a descent person a gentleman, great dad to his son. Another reason why I'm single she's passed away but everyone around her she taught them well to hate and disrespect me.
When she said she thought he was ugly, I was thinking what in the heck is she talking about, what would her personal view of her sister’s husband’s physical features have to do with aanyythinggggg. It tells you immediately something really bizarre is going on between these two sisters. So so weird.
🤔Hmm... Work in Walmart in Virginia? Or go back to Texas and be able use my license to be a lawyer? I understand what you're saying as far as the importance of the kids but not sure I myself would pick working at a minimum wage job over a high paying corporate job. Especially when the court had already given full custody to the ex husband and she was ordered to pay child support of almost $1,000/month. Walmart wages would not fund that and meet the cost of a decent living.
These sisters have an unhealthy and abnormal relationship 🤨 close bonds in siblings is a wonderful thing bit this..... they're literally in love with each other. Most married couples don't speak about one another they way these two sisters do.
Tina decided to eliminate him. Tina is clearly a NARCISIST. She wanted to be the center of attentions, keep people were she desires them to be and she wanted her sister to have her way. DId you noticed how she criticised Fred saying her sister did EVERYTHING a FATHER should do? As if: he didn't do them. Every word that comes out of this woman's mouth when she criticises him is as if she was talking about HERSELF. A pure 100% nar.
The sister acted like it was outrageous that she didn’t have a right to see Piper’s kids. Of course you don’t! There is no such thing as “aunt rights,” “grandparent rights” shouldn’t even be a thing.
Well, obviously the ex-wife got convicted because of her shirt and doing a close-up, the interviewer being much farther away. It's just a matter of hearing the story of it.
Man, I wish more places would upload on RUclips. These are great for just sticking an earbud in and listening to because they describe everything so well. I am not a fan of 2 part series though.
I enjoy and applaud you, young person. I'm sitting here on the verge of menopause, wondering how the years behind me might've been different if I were growing up now instead of in the 1980's. I read the HSP book many years before autism was ever suggested to me. I love how smart, quick, aware and confident you are.
The detectives who went to the airport to meet the flight must be the most stupid people on earth. To say it was too much trouble to stop every woman shows just how useless they were.
That sibling dependency is very common in military families as a result of the constant change of stations...every 2-3 years, families get sent somewhere else.
I can't imagine what his little cries must have sounded like. If he wasn't fed, I'm sure he was never rocked, cuddled, sung too.I can't imagine having a baby around and just not wanting to give him all the love in the world. I see a baby in the grocery store and i want to pick it up and cuddle it, who can deny a baby even the most basic care like feeding and changing. I just don't understand😥
Something doesnt add up. She was a stay at home mom and lost custody...very odd. Seems like there could have been some favoritism going on. As far as her failing the bar, you can retake the test every year. She couldnt humble herself to take a lower job and do the right thing to stay close to the kids...🤔
Wait, didn’t she stop working while in Virginia cause she wanted to care for her kids and he was always at work? My how the tables turned and the system did not consider that? I mean before calling her unfit as a parent?
The people who made these programs were remarkably better than those who make the program in 2023. Why the quality of 48 hours has declined so sharply?
The sister is always gonna be jealous of anyone that goes near Piper and think they aren't good enough for her. Everyone said she would go to great lengths to "help" people - that wasn't helping people, that was controlling situations.
@@Adriana-eu6ty People have been using that term instead of saying k*ll, m*rder, or s*icide because using those terms on social media can get you banned.
@@m00nk1n regardless of the reason, it’s becoming common even in speech and sounds absurd. I doubt a comment relevant to the content would cause one to be banned
So where is PART 2❓❓❓I can’t stand when an episode or further episodes are pitched and then it can’t be found and there’s no explanation given about where or when viewers might see it. Is it in podcast form? ❓Is it coming soon? ❓Do viewers need to pay for it on your app? ❓Why don’t you just explain things? ❓ Instead, it’s nowhere to be found, as far as I can see. Really #CBS48Hours there’s no need to be mysterious. 🤬
Beginning of the story and Piper said children need both parents in their life but she is the one not present and moved so far away Why she’s not with kids? So many questions
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When do we get to see Part Two of this episode?
@@jimwerther never
Can you tell us wgere to find the rest of this episode? Thank you
Part 2, please??
They won't. That's just a nasty way to act in my opinion 🤔.
48 hours is a real one for uploading full episodes on yt. I wish more crime shows on tv would do the same.
As they should since these old videos giving more revenue on RUclips than on tv 😅
They have a little too much fluff in their episodes. I wish they would not waste peoples time. “How did that make you feel?” Who tf cares! This isn’t a soap opera!
@@jamesp9226 That's easy, DONT WATCH!!
Absolutely @James P you are spot on and exactly well said 😊.
@@drewroseboro7871 he do got a point tho
I’m sorry, but Tina took too long to answer the question of whether she killed this man or not. Other people would immediately say NO.
it's a two part series.
@@gregshell8570 What does it matter? He asked her the question of whether killed this man in this segment and she paused and took a around 10 seconds to answer NO.
That's what I said
Not necessarily. Tina likes to play mind games. That's why she paused, because she wanted to play the game on _her_ terms. A distinctly unlikeable person.
I felt that she was thinking "You think u'll ask me this question n u'll get a yes for an answer?? What r u, a judge/detective?! How stupid! "
Tina desperately wants to feel important. What a weird, jealous and possessive woman. She either killed Fred or knows who did. I love my sister but those two are crossing a line with their sisterhood. Gives me the creeps.
Piper had to move to Virginia ... Three cows : mooh !
We sleep together regularly………riiiight.
I wonder if tina has a family of her own? If she doesn't, that could explain y she kept interfering in piper's life so much.
Tina was talking about cuddling with piper as a child and not liking it. Something was really strange about that. Tina is an abuser.
@Rich Rudemeister that’s what I thought too
I miss Harold Dow. He had a great presence and voice and had a very warm interviewing style.
I miss Harold Dow too. He was one of the best. He passed too young at age 62 from a sudden asthma attack while sitting behind the wheel of his parked car.
@Robin oh no! How horrible abd sad. Very tragic!! He was an excellent journalist!!
@@guerralg63 He sure did. He was one of my favorites.
@Robin He made 48 hours his show, they haven't found anyone yet to take his place. This is why I like the older stories
@@Robin-xt7yo. Omg really?😳. That’s horrible. Poor guy. 💔
There is something REALLY creepy about the sisters' relationship.
Seems like a classic case of folie à deux!
Came here to say this-- she said they 'frequently sleep together, even as adults'. What?!
@jasonsell8523 OK glad it wasn't just me. Yeah I really feel like there might be some incest going on in there...
@@jasonsell8523just now watching this episode and I agree; what in the world is up with these sisters. 😳
They are amazing oh and innocent
Let me get this straight, three police officers responded to a shots fired call... but they didn't see the body of the victim until the neighbors called them back the next day??
An hour later, but yeah.
As a cop who’s responded to a ton of similar calls - almost never is there much information other than someone called and they heard a gun shot in this 3 block general area. And it was at night and like they said it was Halloween and there were decorations in the yard so likely easy to miss. The neighbors were probably so familiar with the yards and those decorations they immediately noticed when there was something out of place.
It’s amazing how “easy” things seem to people who have never done it and are just watching it on a video.
@@theylied1776 No I don't think you do understand. First the neighbor didn't live next door, he lived down the street; if you go back to 4:45 in the video you will hear him say "just down the road." Second, as someone who has heard gunshots or even fireworks that can be mistaken as gunshots you don't always know exactly where they are coming from. There was another neighbor who said she thought the shots were coming from a hunting area that was even further away so your assertion that the police should've found the body right away when the people calling it in didn't exactly know where they were coming from is just false.
I think others are low-key, unconsciously gaslighting your comment. I agree with you that the body was right there within direct eye view; it’s not hard to notice and check it. The police officers were incompetent; they probably didn’t even go beyond what they thought was a sufficient search and didn't check yards or above street level it’s so obvious.
@@milano888 The victim's next-door neighbor made the complaint. Three officers show up, and not one of them walks next door? That is beyond incompetent.
The sister, Tina, is one of the most manipulative people I've seen. She says Fred had the upper hand persuading the court for custody of the children because he was "a Ph.D. professor in persuasive communications," completely ignoring the fact that her sister was a freaking attorney whose job was ALSO to use persuasive communications. It shows me that she "cherry-picks" and twists information to suit her narrative.
Narcissism has a genetic component, and an environmental one. It wouldn’t be surprising to find siblings who share the trait. They are extremely manipulative, controlling, deceitful, abusive, cold hearted, delusional, and are most often without empathy. They feel NO GUILT, they justify ANYTHING they do. They aren’t entirely human, as they lack humanity, other than when they are trying to “manage their facade”. So many are filled with evil intentions, towards anyone who challenge them & their superiority/authority. I’ve had 53+ years of close up study. They don’t choose to be monsters, it’s something they are born to, but they are incredibly destructive.
As soon as I saw her wearing that white doctor's coat with the stethoscope around her neck despite being only a nurse practitioner, I knew she was a few screws loose. Ditto using that image on the ads for her clinic.
was just thinking the same thing!
@lizfinkelstein1323 I agree about Tina after watching the video. However I wouldn't to use her work appearance as an explanation for her psyche. In my experience, I've worked with wonderful Nurse practitioners who also wear white lab coats and use stethoscopes. Additionally the neck is a very common place to store a stethoscope when not in use.
@@DJDigitalDamon for sure, but is it *common*?
No one just wears those blue shirts for interviews if they have a choice 😂
😂I was thinking the same thing 😂
Lol
I miss Harold Dow. He was a great storyteller. I loved his paced and voice tone. So suave. This was great reporting! I can't wait for part 2!
Me too! I was so sad when he passed away suddenly.
He had an excellent voice
His last show was really touching, and the way his nephew spoke about him... still gets me to this day! I hope his family are in a great place, knowing that he was recognized as a great human being and an excellent reporter!
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Ikr, he was a phenomenal narrator, one of my favs.
Harold Dow rest in peace! It was a sad day when you passed.
If I was being asked what time I went to the store 2 weeks ago, I might have to think about it that long. You don't have to think about whether or not you murdered someone that much.
if you think that maybe something you've said or done could have lead to the bad decisions of others, you might
The older sister is a menace
She destroyed her sisters marriage. U can tell how much hatred she has for him.
💯💯💯💯💯💯
Yessss this this thissss. She had an obsession with her sister and wanted her sister all to herself. Very off
I think she's upset that she let her jealous sister convince her how evil he was. The sister sounds almost obsessed with her. It's creepy.
@@DrineThePoet Bingo
@@ItCantRainForever2 creepy women right?
Enjoy these older 48 Hours episodes. Keep ‘em coming!
What I find so sad about so many separation or divorce cases is the lack of ability from both adults to reach an amicable solution between them, putting their kids first. Someone always has to win! If there's one thing I'm proud of in my life, it's the way my ex husband and I have handled our separation. Neither of us have custody. When my 7 year old son wants to see his Dad, or his Dad wants to see his son, it happens...because I do not own my son. I WANT him to have his Dad and I want his Dad to have his son. I want my son to have me. Sometimes my ex husband rings up on a Saturday when my son is due home and says 'erm..he'd like to stay again tonight is that ok?' You know what, YES it is! - because if that makes my son and his Dad happy, then that makes me happy! Yes, I miss my son when he stays an extra night or two....so I call him, and I chat to him and I tell him to have a wonderful time and I can't wait to see him. When he returns, he is loved as much. It really does make my blood boil that these supposed 'adults' and 'parents' are more concerned with winning the battle and subsequently the war, rather than putting the happiness of their kids first! Oh...and the sister so obviously did it. EDIT: I've seen part 2...SPOILER ALERT....
I was wrong about the sister LOL!
That's how a real woman and man handle things in a healthy way. Thanks for sharing.
@@kekewesten3869 You're welcome. I know not every case is a battle between parents but when I see mums and dads at each other the whole time, trying to win just to beat the other one, it makes me so sad! They've lost their way with what is most important - the happiness and stability of the little person they brought into this world. I find it heartbreaking.
I cannot begin to tell you how refreshing it is to hear a parent express your attitude. As a mental health professional, the selfishness, complete disregard for children’s welfare and the psychological damage I have witnessed all too often is nothing short of horrific. It is one of the things that renders divorce in this country far more traumatic than it needs to be. It is the reason it figures so routinely in the histories of criminal offenders and other kinds of terribly troubled people. You give me encouragement about what CAN be…thank you!
@@AMunoz-rh9cz Oh, you brought a tear that is so kind of you to say that! I firmly believe that if you truly love your child, you do not want to see sadness on their little faces. How anybody can deny their child(ren) someone who loves them is a complete mystery to me. Thank you!
@@nellyb2434 It’s my pleasure! As for the mystery of the “why”…there are at least four factors that contribute to this problem that I have observed so far that I would love to hear your feedback on it if you care to offer it are:
1) The US divorce process in particular (not sure about how other societies are working to improve this) is constructed as adversarial i.e. you are automatically enemies going through the divorce process rather than a demand by our system that are and will remain a family unit forever who must approach divorce as a team problem to be solved. Mediation has been steadily encouraged but has not entirely replaced “ the contest” system.
2) A great many adults did not receive adequate love as children and therefore do not know how to fully love as result.
3) If they don’t get treatment for it, many adults repeat or play out childhood trauma of all kinds, including unhealthy patterns that their parents had in their own marriage and
4) The bottom line that you don’t own your children as property-which you so eloquently pointed out-I doubt is understood by most adults. So many bad decisions are made about children’s welfare due to an inability to understand this. Your son is very lucky to have you!😊
Thank you for uploading the older episodes, they’re my comfort show. Yes to the 48 hours team!
Let me get this straight...The Houston PD not only missed her getting off the plane, she picked up her bags from the conveyor without their noticing? What??!
Haha I’m wondering if she was even on it. Or else it was just a super busy airport and they missed her
@@WideAwakeHuman
Okay, let's say she wasn't on it. (I guess we'll find out in Part Two.) But why wasn't someone watching to see who would pick up her bags from the conveyor?
@@jimwerther Okay seriously have you ever tried finding someone you know in a crowd? Now try finding someone you don't know in a crowded airport with just a picture to go off of. Also, you completely skip over the part where they said they stopped several women who they thought might look like the one they were looking for, do you not know how easy it is for someone to slip pass them while they are with one of the other women they were looking for. Also how is it do you think they are going to know which bag was her's? I swear some of you people come up with the most idiotic stuff that has no basis in logic.
She was probably wearing a wig. It's literally in the title of the video!
@@kenyattaclay7666 thanks, that was my point - I was a police officer for years, finding someone off of a picture isn’t that easy, much less in a crowded airport where I’ve literally lost family members before because there are just so many people it’s hard to visually inspect every person. Some people have no real experience other than watching things in videos and greatly underestimate how difficult things are irl or fail to understand that things are never as clear cut as a video synopsis make them out to be
This episode is from 2007...Ever notice that the old episodes are far better? They just MOVE, one step to the next. The newer episodes are 10 minutes of content, 34 minutes of filler.
PS - RIP Harold Dow, one of the greats.
I think the exact same thing
@@paulnovak833fairly high quality all of them, but Harold is amazing
Agreed
The new ones are horrible. I miss the Dan Rather Era of 48 hours.
@@bethanybergeson4192
The era was good, but Rather lost his career due his propagating lies.
I love my sister but man their relationship is just odd, we certainly aren't clinging to each other to that degree
No seriously and I just skimmed through the episode
I agree!
Maybe a little three way action with the sisters. Old sister has to be attracted to the man, husband too. She said the hubby was ugly. I wonder why she doesn't have a man?
wow what show are you watching?
Tina kept saying you don't understand we're a part of each other. Weird.
😂 I like how she didn't say yes or no to killing him, just rolled her eyes and tried to play it off
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was pretty messed up.
U like it huh.. smh
I took it as a way to protect her sister, if gives reasonable doubt
Tina sounds like a very controlling, selfish, narcissistic sister. SHE had to be the main person in her sister's life or else it wasn't good enough. There's an incest trauma bond there, and she needs therapy. Your sibling should not be your main companion, its unhealthy
I agree. Grown women sleeping together in the same bed and texting 3 times a day. I don't text anyone that much.
🤣🤣🤣 three times! Outrageous!! 😂 Sounds like a tight bond to me if you put it like that. Nothing more 😅
@@nothinspecial893 there are people who text each other 100+ times a day LOL 3 is so minimal!
what is a "healthy" relationship among siblings? among parents/children? among best friends? what is your credible source for this statement?
48 hours, the Original true crime show. I used to watch with my grandparents and have been a true crime fan ever since.
*48 Hours* is One of the Best Ones. *Unsolved Mystery* and *Forensic Files* are good as well.
*That A&E is the WORST with actors pretending to be the people* and doing *voice-overs as the Dead people narrating their Story of how they got Murdered.* That is so Cringe. I stopped watching it, couldn't take it.
AMAZING story & would recommend reading the book. I read the book in 2008 in my young 20's when I first got in True Crime. It's a twisted & amazing story and its laid out well in the book. 'Die My Love' is the name of the book
Thank you for the recommendation! I just ordered the audiobook to listen to today at work.
Thanks for this, I'll add it to Audible!
Yes. The book is very good. Really went into in depth detail.
Who has written the book? Is it accurate?
Does it speak of the odd intimate type relationship between the sisters?
Before ANYONE sympathizes with these evil sisters, keep in mind: Piper was not abused; she killed him because she was $7k behind in child support, his $200k life insurance, and because he had full custody. These two sisters convinced themselves that Piper was the victim. They’ve had ZERO remorse for their actions. Tina drove a wedge into that marriage from Day 1. It really is a great book.
Is she convicted?
Actually the fact that he sought sole custody speaks to his abusive nature. That's something you do if they kids are in actual danger(ie the other parent has a drug/alcohol problem, is abusive, etc ) OR if you're just trying to get revenge on the other parent. Just because he didn't deserve to die doesn't mean that his actions were absolutely disgusting.
How do you know she wasn't abused? Were you there? Can you prove it?
Piper is a victim!!
@@ieshamusgrove7883piper was involved in her husbands execution and your gonna sit there and lecture us about how Fred trying to keep someone like that away from his kids is abusive behavior???
Isn't it funny how all victims are, loved, popular, smart, beautiful, handsome, everyone likes them, and have a great future in life, but only when they are killed or murdered, while they are alive they are not recognized
Did you not hear from the SIL how nasty he was to his ex wife? I'm thinking possible classic Narcissistic type. "Beloved professor" in public. Monster behind closed doors.
You are so right. True to form still in 2023.
@@annahappen7036 yeah the sister in law seems like she has an objective opinion 🙄
@@Odawg292002🤣🤣 that’s what I was thinking when I read that person’s comment….um, she doesn’t seem real credible, I’d need to hear about him being nasty from a more credible source to believe it
Don't forget, "They light up the room." Lol
Love these older episodes from the early 2000's. They are so well put together once i start watching i can't stop
damn sad case. Piper is a scary individual - she presents herself like she is so demure and gentle. She kinda reminds me of Jodi Arias.
Something seems very strange about how Tina described her younger sister cuddling with her in bed because she was a child. Then they sleep together as adults too? Something strange is going on.
My mother had a identical twin. She said she was so thankful when they both got married, because she was tired of sharing a bed with her
True crime aficionado here from the UK 🇬🇧 home sick from work, grateful for these uploads!
Hope u ❤️🩹 feel better, more true crime hot soup n rest that should do it! Sending light love and good vibes!
I hope you didn't get vaxed
God bless that cop for making it possible for freds children to stay w his family
How I IMMEDIATELY "like" the video 40 sec watching...that's the grip that 48hrs has on me.
She said ‘he was ugly I thought !’ 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️ Jheeze sis ! Tell us how u really feel !!!!👀
So strange how there is piles and piles of information about Piper missing in part 1 - maybe it will be covered in part 2 because it’s pretty obvious Piper was crazy for a long long long time before she and or her sister killed him. They make it look like they just got divorced and with his communication skills he got custody. She was totally nuts
Exactly.. that part made me laugh. They painted in as an uphill battle due to him being some debate wizz when in reality women receive custody like 85% of the time PLUS she studied law! If they awarded the father the kids then there had to be ALOT wrong with her!
Women tend to assassinate character in order to get there way in court when they're losing.
@@EstbXCIII When was she missing?
part 2 now pls !
Yes, WHERE IS PART 2?
I’ve been searching on RUclips for 48 hrs, part 2. No luck 😢
@@CissyBrazil bummer..
It’s really dumb for them to not release them simultaneously and consecutively. I already went to another true crime channel to see what happened. It’s not 2004 anymore.
Next week.
How did a stay at home mom lose all custody and end up paying child support?? That’s crazy
@Rich Rudemeister no. The courts usually grant custody to the primary caregiver regardless of gender. So, no. It’s very strange to award custody to a parent who is not the primary caregiver
@Rich Rudemeister weird statement.
She was crazy
@@jonnycashh3876 lmaoooo
Misogyny.
When they said they still slept together??? And that Fred liked to bark😭 omg my face. They're just all weird
48 Hours just MADE my Tuesday 💯
Post part 2!
THIS sister needs to stay out of her business. That was husband and wife not wife and Sister. She is crazy
It's literally her family! LMAO
She didn't want her nephew and nieces to be brought up by an abusive creep.
@@Analysis_Paralysis For real. They are best friends. Of course she's going to be involved.
31:40 the way she answers the question if she killed the man, she obviously wants everyone to think it was her. I think the sisters were both in it together and the plan was to create doubt that Piper did it. Just one juror who'd think maybe it was the sister would be enough
She knows who killed him. She did not do it, but is probably involved somehow.
I think tina is in love with her sister... I've never heard two sisters love each other like that
You guys had me at two wigs, one cup
🤮🤮🤮
😂😂😂😂
Man I hope we don’t have to wait too long until part 2 comes. I’m real curious where the wigs come into play 😂 maybe it will explain how they missed her coming off the plane 😂
"He was ugly" - doesn't she have a mirror at home? What a hypocrite.
Tina couldn't attract any man, so she lived vicariously through her sister...
What does his looks have to do with it. If he's a good man that's all that matters. I can see why her marriage fell apart. Can you imagine having her coming to stay and trying to run the show😮
@@lisawentworth6831This!
You can tell that piper went to jail for this crime. I doubt she’d choose to wear that shirt without being mandated to.
Is it just me or does Pipers outfit and lack of makeup make anyone else think they are doing a jail interview and she ends up being involved? Hope not
48 Hours is an Excellent Crime Show, and Mr. Dow was one of my Favorites.
48 hours is the OG of true crime!
I loved Harold Dow.. Such a shame he passed away... A lovely chap with a great voice for TV.
Very sad seeing kids loosing their parent I'm glad the right person is in prison, and i loved Harold Dow a true LEGEND of reporting love the way he used to do his work on 48 hour's, still missed and always remembered 💯🙏💚☘love from IRELAND 🙏🇮🇪
May he continue resting in peace. I loved his reporting.
@@WILMA_ 💯❤🙏☘
The hesitation in her answering if she murdered someone is kind of suspicious
I am a woman, but when a woman is called out to the table of equality, we cry foul IMMEDIATELY.
if Fred lost battle, she would GLADLY take his home, his money, car and kids.
But as soon as ANY women is held accountable OH BOY! I don't understand it why is this happening? 😮 I am ashamed at this behavior.
Totally agree with you. As if it's utterly outrageous that a woman would be the one required to pay for her children. Doube standard big time!
No ur not a woman lmaooo when a dad looses costody its not that deep cause most men aren’t leaving their jobbs to stay home and take care of their kids nor are they almost dying while giving birth to them it will never be the same
I'm not crying about it, the judge saw the evidence and gave the custody to the better parent.. simple. If there was evidence of him abusing her, then I doubt the judge would have given the kids to him..
@fulla fulla Nobody said anything about leaving their jobs. A mother doesn't automatically quit her job to stay home with kids, so I'm not sure what you're on about. It's painfully obvious that you don't have children. Also, it's loses not looses. Correct spelling isn't difficult.
She should not have moved to Houston
THE WAY SHE STRUGGLED FOR LIKE 5 WHOLE SECONDS WHEN ASKED IF SHE MURDERED THE GUY SHE HATES???
I remember this from back in the day.. Piper left a mountain of evidence.. the jury came back quick.. from what I recall the sister loaned her her ID and was actually the one who visited the attorney that day (wearing a brown wig) smh two peas in a noxious pod.
Yep
The attorney knew them. That doesn't seem plausible?
I need part two immediately 😮😮😮
I started to watch Part 1 and had to force myself to stop because I'd be the same way. Now I can watch them both now.
For all married women, never allow your sister/relative to dictate your marriage. Imagine Tina thought Fred wa "ugly". Really who does that? She was in no position to judge hers sisters choice. The sister was dumb enough to allow a family member destroy her perfect marriage . I will feel really sad if these two sisters were let free.
“perfect marriage”… please
@@twilit Agree.
@@twilit it’s obvious her sister was a big influence on her. Single women keep women single. Her sister didn’t have a man or kids or a family of her own. So she made a sister in the same boat as her
Speech speech because my mother ruined my sister's second marriage, and such a narcissist and control freak he was a descent person a gentleman, great dad to his son. Another reason why I'm single she's passed away but everyone around her she taught them well to hate and disrespect me.
When she said she thought he was ugly, I was thinking what in the heck is she talking about, what would her personal view of her sister’s husband’s physical features have to do with aanyythinggggg. It tells you immediately something really bizarre is going on between these two sisters. So so weird.
I'm sorry, I would work at a Walmart in order to not leave my kids. There's no way I'd move out of state and leave my kids without their mom.
Totally agree. Move out of state is insane.
🤔Hmm... Work in Walmart in Virginia? Or go back to Texas and be able use my license to be a lawyer?
I understand what you're saying as far as the importance of the kids but not sure I myself would pick working at a minimum wage job over a high paying corporate job.
Especially when the court had already given full custody to the ex husband and she was ordered to pay child support of almost $1,000/month.
Walmart wages would not fund that and meet the cost of a decent living.
These sisters have an unhealthy and abnormal relationship 🤨 close bonds in siblings is a wonderful thing bit this..... they're literally in love with each other. Most married couples don't speak about one another they way these two sisters do.
Tina decided to eliminate him. Tina is clearly a NARCISIST.
She wanted to be the center of attentions, keep people were she desires them to be and she wanted her sister to have her way. DId you noticed how she criticised Fred saying her sister did EVERYTHING a FATHER should do? As if: he didn't do them. Every word that comes out of this woman's mouth when she criticises him is as if she was talking about HERSELF. A pure 100% nar.
So was Fred.
The sister acted like it was outrageous that she didn’t have a right to see Piper’s kids. Of course you don’t! There is no such thing as “aunt rights,” “grandparent rights” shouldn’t even be a thing.
They should have rights. Especially grandparents. You’re wrong.
@@sistersarahc the grandparents played no part in creating the child, they have no legal right to see them. Sorry.
@@clarissa8477
Yet without the grandparents there would be no parents… 🤔hmmmmmmm
@@ReginaK2 and?
“What’s one word to describe your sister?”
“Amazonian”
Uh…..what
I love the old 48 Hours episodes! I hope more of them are uploaded on both RUclips and Pluto TV
Its good to see women get a taste of what men go through on the daily.. RiP Fred
LOL @ These two sisters..
Well, obviously the ex-wife got convicted because of her shirt and doing a close-up, the interviewer being much farther away. It's just a matter of hearing the story of it.
one more time in English ??
@thelighteningcandle the style of how the interview of the ex-wife was conducted is revealing that the ex wife got convicted and is an inmate.
@@paralegalty I speak and write English just fine.
Yo it’s not okay to sleep with your sibling as an adult. Even sister to sister…. Those days are over as an adult.
RIP Harold Dow. You are missed.
I'll bite... where's part 2?
18 minutes in ...my dog barks. Thank you Fred!
Man, I wish more places would upload on RUclips. These are great for just sticking an earbud in and listening to because they describe everything so well. I am not a fan of 2 part series though.
I enjoy and applaud you, young person. I'm sitting here on the verge of menopause, wondering how the years behind me might've been different if I were growing up now instead of in the 1980's.
I read the HSP book many years before autism was ever suggested to me.
I love how smart, quick, aware and confident you are.
The detectives who went to the airport to meet the flight must be the most stupid people on earth. To say it was too much trouble to stop every woman shows just how useless they were.
That sibling dependency is very common in military families as a result of the constant change of stations...every 2-3 years, families get sent somewhere else.
This is so old. Why is part 2 not been uploaded
48 hours is the best
"I was disappointed she married Fred. He was ugly, I thought." Tell us how you really feel.
I can't imagine what his little cries must have sounded like. If he wasn't fed, I'm sure he was never rocked, cuddled, sung too.I can't imagine having a baby around and just not wanting to give him all the love in the world. I see a baby in the grocery store and i want to pick it up and cuddle it, who can deny a baby even the most basic care like feeding and changing. I just don't understand😥
It seems like piper didn’t become her own person she became her evil sister.. there’s something weird going on between them two!
Piper is wearing prison clothing, kind of gave away the plot ending. She's also into homely bald men.
Melanie Griffith as Tina Rountree 😂
Mothers are the most important. We look to them mainly for comfort, kisses and hugs.
Piper will be eligible for parole after 15 years when she'll be 60 😅 all this investigation for a poxy 15 years 😅
When someone's response to being asked if they killed someone is "ummm", it doesn't really make me feel warm and fuzzy.
The first time im this early , thanks 48 hours , thank you for letting people tell their story.😊
It was the “two wigs” that got me here 🤔😕🤣🤣🤣
I love the shock about the child support and custody arrangement hahaha.
It's standard practice.
Something doesnt add up. She was a stay at home mom and lost custody...very odd. Seems like there could have been some favoritism going on. As far as her failing the bar, you can retake the test every year. She couldnt humble herself to take a lower job and do the right thing to stay close to the kids...🤔
Wait, didn’t she stop working while in Virginia cause she wanted to care for her kids and he was always at work? My how the tables turned and the system did not consider that? I mean before calling her unfit as a parent?
WHERE IS PART 2 .??????...?😢
Yes , where is Tart poo
I can't find it either. I even typed it in.
They’ll prob upload it tomorrow or later this week.
@@jparker59able Southern Fried Crime has good details not mentioned by 48 hrs.
Paramount
Nutty sisters
Really? I don't find them nutty at all. One's an attorney and the other is a Practical Nurse. They didn't do anything outrageous either.
@@danadougherty8683 the fact one was allowed to be a prosecutor , tells whats wrong with texas.
sleeping together regularly is very odd as adults
The older sister said “yes I did it” but it took her 52 words to say it
Classic word salad. Opens the narc's door to "I never said that"
Why didn’t the detectives at the airport just hold the line until every woman could be evaluated?
The people who made these programs were remarkably better than those who make the program in 2023. Why the quality of 48 hours has declined so sharply?
we'll never get to hear Fred's side of the story, that's really convenient for the 2 sisters
All you need to know about this man is he fought for full custody. That's enough to know he's a controlling evil piece of work.
@@rodneysmith9707 Or that he cares about his children
The sister is always gonna be jealous of anyone that goes near Piper and think they aren't good enough for her. Everyone said she would go to great lengths to "help" people - that wasn't helping people, that was controlling situations.
A title like that I had to have a look
I think her sister had something to do with the unaliving of
the ex husband. I’m ready for PT 2 please!
Unaliving? Sheez... what's this world coming to? 🤦🏼♀️
Why are you saying unaliving?
Could be both, since Piper is a lawyer, if both have an alibi, even if a shaky one, the jurors can't blame either of them, Piper would know that..
@@Adriana-eu6ty People have been using that term instead of saying k*ll, m*rder, or s*icide because using those terms on social media can get you banned.
@@m00nk1n regardless of the reason, it’s becoming common even in speech and sounds absurd. I doubt a comment relevant to the content would cause one to be banned
So where is PART 2❓❓❓I can’t stand when an episode or further episodes are pitched and then it can’t be found and there’s no explanation given about where or when viewers might see it. Is it in podcast form? ❓Is it coming soon? ❓Do viewers need to pay for it on your app? ❓Why don’t you just explain things? ❓ Instead, it’s nowhere to be found, as far as I can see. Really #CBS48Hours there’s no need to be mysterious. 🤬
Beginning of the story and Piper said children need both parents in their life but she is the one not present and moved so far away
Why she’s not with kids? So many questions
19:11 if I was up in court and saw the judge bouncing a child on his lap I would be asking my brief to apply for a continuance. Appalling.