ULEZ Impact on Bikers - Podcast with Ace Cafe and MAG (Motorcycle Action Group)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2023
  • Mark Wilsmore of the Ace Cafe and Lembit Öpik of MAG (Motorcycle Action Group) join me to discuss how ULEZ will impact Bikers and the Motorbike Community covering everything from bike's impact on the air quality of London, the confusion over which bikes qualify and where they can ride and park, and what motorcyclists can do about it all. This is must-watch for all who ride two wheels.
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  • @BrownCarGuy
    @BrownCarGuy  Год назад +7

    FURTHER COMMENT AND INFO FROM MAG:
    ULEZ:-
    The ULEZ scheme exempts motorcycles that produce fewer than 0.15 g/Km of NOx emissions. All Euro 3 compliant motorcycles are exempt, so registered from June 1st 2007 onwards. Older motorcycles have three to routes to ULEZ compliance which are detailed below.
    a) If a motorcycle was registered before 01/06/2007, but your log book has the NOx figure listed - First you create a generic account on TFL’s website
    (reg.web.tflcc.co.uk/TFL.LRUC.AccountAuth/S1) you do NOT need to provide your full details, because you are only getting proof of compliance on their system, NOT signing up for a road charging account (ask us how we know). Once the account is setup, you then scan and upload that page as well as the front page of the logbook . It can take upto 24hrs, but then bam! Is ULEZ compliant.
    b) If your motorcycle is only a few years older than 2007, for example a 2001, Yamaha FZS1000. The owner can pay the manufacturer a modest fee for a CoC (Certificate of Conformity) and follow the same steps as above, but they only need to include a scan of CoC and the front page of thier logbook.
    c) You take your bike to one of the 4 currently known ULEZ testing centers -
    - www.uleztesting.co.uk - Stevenage, Hertfordshire
    - www.ulezbiketest.co.uk - Deptford, London
    - www.nationalemissionstestcentre.com - Bow, London
    - www.garfieldmotorcompany.co.uk - Enfield, London
    The test costs £175 and most motorcycle pass this, for example a 2001 Yamaha FZS1000 only puts out 0.08g/km of NOx. But for any motorcycles that don’t pass, they have the option of getting a catalytic convertor retro fitted for a fee. Once the test is passed, the test center/s will then upload your compliant status direct to TFL. One of our members got his old 1990 Honda bros made ULEZ compliant in this way.
    Some more info about ULEZ and Motorcycles - mag-uk.org/?s=ULEZ
    BUS LANES:-
    At the moment motorcycles are only allowed to travel in bus lanes where they are a “Red Route” tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes. MAG would like to see motorcycles allowed into all bus lanes, like they are in Yorkshire - www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2022/march/yorkshire-motorcycles-bus-lanes/ - and is actively campaigning for this around the country.
    PARKING CHARGES:-
    SaveLondonMotorcycling & MAG have and are campaigning against unfair parking charges for motorcycles. It started with Westminster which MAG got down to £1 per day. Then Camden proposed £6-7 per day for ICE and EV motorcycles/vehicles alike but were forced into tabling the proposal when presented with 1500 signature strong petition. Lewisham tried the same thing based on emissions and were talked down to £1.5 per day. Then we have Hackney who started off at £6 per hour!!! Which then got lowered to £6 per day for motorcycles ICE & EV. Thus far Hackney has resisted ALL attempts at reason and SLM & MAG are currently campaigning to get this proposal tabled like they did with Camden.

    • @simonelliott5956
      @simonelliott5956 Год назад +2

      Many thanks Shahzad, that’s very helpful.

    • @jorgesantoine24
      @jorgesantoine24 11 месяцев назад

      If the ULEZ expansion goes ahead, it's only a matter of a short time before the next tightening of the noose, so it's naieve to imagine any certificate of conformity or proof of emissions will provide you with anything other than a temporary respite from the regulations

  • @christinarichie6171
    @christinarichie6171 Год назад +46

    In the Soviet Bloc it was constant confusion for the population. It's a tactic to demoralise and degrade.

    • @leerubybritvic1990
      @leerubybritvic1990 Год назад

      I agree.Russia is the worst country in the World.They have invaded 4 European countries.And destablized loads in Africa.Mali .South Africa.Go back to selling gas to failed Soviet republics.

    • @simonelliott5956
      @simonelliott5956 Год назад +2

      It’s certainly working, I’ve never known so many people to be saying the same things against our governance, as they are today.

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa 11 месяцев назад

      @@simonelliott5956 I can't drive my car wherever I want as fast as I want!!!! 👶😢
      I need the government to employ eminent domain, kick poor people out of their homes, and pave them over for MY privilege! Governance is so terrible when it doesn't meet my selfish needs!

    • @simonelliott5956
      @simonelliott5956 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@HerrBasa Nobody is asking to do that, people are just asking why? Because it clearly doesn’t make sense and has nothing to do with the quality of air. When you are being lied to and there is no transparency, it’s fair to want to ask questions and it’s not about people’s selfishness, this has a real impact on many people who can’t afford to make a change.

  • @timhicks2154
    @timhicks2154 Год назад +48

    Bottom line is to remove personal transport from the peasantry

    • @smurfsrule9680
      @smurfsrule9680 11 месяцев назад +5

      correct. these people are dancing around the real agenda

    • @timhicks2154
      @timhicks2154 11 месяцев назад

      @@smurfsrule9680 - absolutely

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa 11 месяцев назад +1

      Personal transport is already a chain on the leg of "the peasantry". Mass transport sets us free.

    • @MeYou-yz2yz
      @MeYou-yz2yz 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@HerrBasa Public transport in UK is crap and expensive compared to just about anywhere else I've ever been.

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MeYou-yz2yz Maybe address that problem instead of going down the unachievable path of efficient personal motor vehicle transit. 🤷

  • @hoonaticbloggs5402
    @hoonaticbloggs5402 Год назад +48

    I run a motorcycle MOT test centre just outside the current zone in south London.
    The going was great in around 2005 when the congestion charge came in, bikes were exempt. Everyone got a bike .
    Sadly now many people have given up on bikes in London as you can’t get inexpensive insurance if your bike isn’t garaged
    Something else to mention,The ethanol fuel is rapidly killing all bikes with carburettors as it destroys the rubber.

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa Год назад +1

      I weep for the motorcyclists. Buy a real bike.

    • @flesz_
      @flesz_ Год назад +2

      @@HerrBasa what real bike ?

    • @woooster71
      @woooster71 Год назад +3

      Totally agree.. All 6 of my bikes are 1990s era (newest is my ‘04 ZX12R) and I hate ethanol. I only run them on E5 and I always add fuel stabiliser. I don’t actually do many miles on them, i just ride for pleasure.. yet as the guys say here, motorcyclists are seem persecuted unreasonably

    • @steve00alt70
      @steve00alt70 11 месяцев назад

      How much profit do you get versus testing cars?

    • @hoonaticbloggs5402
      @hoonaticbloggs5402 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@steve00alt70
      Virtually nothing. Price of mot hasn’t risen with inflation. I only make money from repairs

  • @johnbellamy6449
    @johnbellamy6449 Год назад +26

    Lembit and Mark and Brown Car Guy ,you talk so much common sense . the madness is from our net zero King and W E F supporter and filters down through our illustrious London Mayor and all the other Just stop oil idiots etc . the powers that be want to stop all we enjoy in our lives .

    • @GreenVapourDrawSystems
      @GreenVapourDrawSystems Год назад +1

      We can meet these targets...I have the solution. Our kits are on modified vehicles in the UK. Have MOT test confirming results.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад +1

      "Everyone else is the idiot, not me" basically?

    • @stevie5141
      @stevie5141 11 месяцев назад +1

      Hear hear👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @GreenVapourDrawSystems
      @GreenVapourDrawSystems 10 месяцев назад

      To much talk and no solution..

  • @BigYouDog
    @BigYouDog Год назад +25

    I also think that London's Council's "Wilding" is also exacerbating the air quality problem, with higher pollen levels from uncut grass. Then they can lay the blame for the increase in asthma attacks on the motorist.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад

      @@leerubybritvic1990 🤡

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад

      Ah yes nature is to blame, not exhaust pollution. Delusional people.

    • @illegalopinions4082
      @illegalopinions4082 Год назад +1

      @@leerubybritvic1990 Grass and trees are natural and to consider pollen as a metric of poor air quality doesn't make sense. If people are having more asthma attacks we need to narrow down why people today are more likely to develop asthma than 50 years ago.

  • @davidbaloney2505
    @davidbaloney2505 Год назад +3

    After listening to this , I shall do whatever I can ,no mater how small to sabotage the ULEZ oppression of the people.

  • @mikehunt8968
    @mikehunt8968 Год назад +5

    Well, I've only got to wait till next year for my 1984 GPZ900R to be exempt!.😁😁😁👍👍👍
    That will bump the value up nicely..😁

    • @kenh3344
      @kenh3344 Год назад

      I've got a 1980 honda 250cc Cbr 4 stroke almost mint original every thing inc megaphone. Is that legal or not. On this ulez. And is it mot. Exempt. 1980 w plate. Been garage a few years. 13000 mile from new. Goes well. I'm going to sell it cos of my age now. Thank you .

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@kenh3344jeez don't sell .I am 82 just bought a 1450cc

  • @turboslag
    @turboslag Год назад +22

    Have been intending to join MAG for a while, so just did! However, there is a slight problem on the membership form, date of birth is mandatory, and actually I don't like that, but I did try to provide it. Problem is you cannot scroll the year seperately, so you would have to scroll through every month of every year, from the curent date! This would take forever, even if you are only 18, which I'm not, so I just went back a month and it was accepted! Anyway, great discussion which just confirms the utter scam bs that ulez and climate change is, ulez MUST be stopped, not only the expansion but he whole thing. I actually don't live in London but it would affect me as I like to visit the Ace, and did like to visit various city centre attractions, which I no longer do because I just will not pay the Ghenghis Khan tax to do so, and I certainly won't be changing my car or bikes to do so. Khan and ulez MUST go.

    • @spenmac
      @spenmac Год назад +1

      You can just phone and join if thats easier btw 😉

    • @turboslag
      @turboslag Год назад +2

      @@spenmac
      Thanks. I've joined with my little hack to get around the dob glitch, but MAG need to correct that problem.

    • @geoffc3191
      @geoffc3191 11 месяцев назад +1

      I have copied your comment to MAG admin

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 Год назад +28

    You will own nothing, and you will be told to be happy or thrown in a Gulag.

  • @accessallexperiences4719
    @accessallexperiences4719 Год назад +7

    i live in Buxton in Derbyshire high peak near Manchester ,. i got a tfl ULEZ letter yesterday notifying me of the new ulez ,for my work van, when i live and work over 150 miles away , WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @christastic100
    @christastic100 Год назад +9

    You guys sound so rational and balanced in your discussions. Why can’t government behave in the same manner? They seem close minded about this whole complex subject.

    • @MeYou-yz2yz
      @MeYou-yz2yz 11 месяцев назад

      Our government is just doing what Klaus and Big Ears the third tell them .

  • @hazrobson2305
    @hazrobson2305 Год назад +6

    If EVs were so good they wouldn't need to force them on to us.
    Let the people decide not the government. Vote Reform

  • @davewardvodafone
    @davewardvodafone Год назад +5

    I’m a bus driver and have been driving for years, just wondered how many bus and black cab taxi drivers have ever had air pollution due to traffic on there death certificate, we have been driving in the city and west end for years that surely would be a great group to get statistics from. ❤️ you channel.

    • @disaffectedmale
      @disaffectedmale 11 месяцев назад

      I drove a RML bus in Central London when I was in my 20's. I can confirm that 30 years ago I'd look all sooty after a shift driving one of those. Vehicles are already much cleaner than they were back then and they will improve organically and gradually over time. This is a pretty transparent push to just buy more stuff, consume, consume and consume some more, that's whats behind this. Sod all to do with air quality. Because cars are better than they've ever been you can expect 20 years of service from a basic ordinary shopping car with a decent level of maintenance. That's the last thing they want. Just think about it, how often do you see plumes of smoke coming from a cars exhaust unless it's an actual falling apart wreck of a thing and EVEN then if you pay the £12.50 then its all good as far as Khan's concerned.

  • @kev1328
    @kev1328 Год назад +3

    Bloke from the mag is bang on!👍🏻👍🏻

  • @routmaster38
    @routmaster38 Год назад +4

    We need the Swiss system of referendums on all important legislation.

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove4998 Год назад +6

    Fabulous you three guys !!!

  • @reinmansmith
    @reinmansmith 11 месяцев назад +2

    How refreshing to listen to a sensible discussion about these issues….. Lembit Opik speaking an awful lot of sense.

    • @reinmansmith
      @reinmansmith 11 месяцев назад

      And I should have said full marks to ‘Brown Car Guy’ for hosting and guiding an excellent discussion alongside all your other efforts to highlight the inconsistencies of these policies 👍

  • @johneisen6341
    @johneisen6341 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was a Ace Cafe yesterday. Speaking to two guys who came all the way from Germany on 50cc bike's.

  • @stevewheeler206
    @stevewheeler206 Год назад +12

    Another great video concerning the affects of ulez. Being an ex biker God miss the old ace cafe and think the last time I went there was in my old merc 190e when the Mercedes c63 was introduced. Fond memories ❤😊

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa 11 месяцев назад

      You were never a biker. You were an exhaust spewing noise-maker.

  • @PhilipBallGarry
    @PhilipBallGarry Год назад +8

    Thanks Mark, thanks Lembit and of course to you Shahzad for bringing us important bike content and the effects of ULEZ expansion for bikers 👍.
    You'll know from comments on your previous vids that I've been a biker since 1980 (same as Lembit). We stand alongside our car brethren when it comes to this and many of the other draconian policies 🤗

  • @hoonaticbloggs5402
    @hoonaticbloggs5402 Год назад +12

    There is actually Two places in London that will test your bike for emissions. One is ‘The test centre’ deptford , the other riverside Motorcycles , bow

    • @arjay6928
      @arjay6928 Год назад +2

      There is also Garfield motor co at ponders end in Enfield

    • @Willenium2k4
      @Willenium2k4 Год назад +1

      May I ask what the process for this is, if you know? My bike doesn't currently register as compliant, but assuming it was tested and met the standard, how would one go about getting it recognised as a compliant vehicle?

    • @hoonaticbloggs5402
      @hoonaticbloggs5402 Год назад +1

      @@Willenium2k4 phone up one of the test centre’s

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 11 месяцев назад

      @@Willenium2k4 did you get my reply on the system .
      I can't c it here.?

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 11 месяцев назад +1

      Jeez don't go to Riverside on a Friday .Blackwall tnnl was a nightmare going and coming back .

  • @why3610
    @why3610 Год назад +3

    Bravo.

  • @The.Toaster
    @The.Toaster Год назад +16

    "At the heart of politics is ignorance"
    Oh how it wish it was ignorance. I think that's letting them off the hook.
    They know EXACTLY what they're doing. Artificial traffic jams created by terrible light phasing and pavement extension and then a further cycle lane out from that even further.
    Narrow the roads, change junctions, reduce the limit, change the light phasing = artificial gridlock problems.
    They're doing it all. It's no accident!

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад

      Cars cause all that. Go back whenever in time, cars will be stuck. Cycle lanes move more people, car lanes only move a handful of cars with average of 1 person behind the wheel.

    • @The.Toaster
      @The.Toaster Год назад +1

      @@catlerbatty I honestly don't know if you are being serious or just a troll.
      Did you even read my post at all? Cars aren't just "getting stuck" as you so put it.
      I'm a commercial driver covering 40,000miles+ a year in and around London and up into the north east and south west.
      The modifications (foul ups) they are making to our road network is not subtle mate. I'll hazard a guess and say you're a cyclist and probably don't use a car more than 5,000 miles a year at best and mostly on weekends...
      If it doesn't bother you the way you are going about your business and you have no interest in reading my comment or contributing with an observation of some sort, then why even bother replying?

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад

      @@The.Toaster So you're a cabbie that's mad about sharing the road with other users, got it.

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa Год назад +1

      Yeah, they actually know what they're doing there, turbo. Managing traffic and trying to get it out of the damn city. Sorry that we don't want to bulldoze additional swaths of our land to build you a super-highway direct to all your destinations.

    • @The.Toaster
      @The.Toaster Год назад

      @@catlerbatty a cabbie... Not even close. I'm a mobile service engineer.
      How many cabbies do you know that drive from the south west of England to the north east you muppet.

  • @easyonenow
    @easyonenow Год назад +9

    I have a 2001 BMW C1 scooter. 4 stroke with a 3 way catalitic converter. It was here before Euro 3, but BMW said cleanest bike st time. Can get it tested at £300 to £500. Does 100 mpg. (I also have a S1000RR HP4, that automatically complies,) madness money grab.
    Only 48 C1s left on road, my mates say good. But once they have all gone, they will be gone

  • @KS-gv8jy
    @KS-gv8jy Год назад +5

    Again beautiful to hear people who know what they are talking about its such a shame the people always fall for the sweet lies but not the bitter truth but hopefully success is coming soon khan and people like him need to be shut down asap apart from damaging people's lives they are giving other idiots ideas and this becomes even more dangerous

  • @PhilipGarlant-ik7ff
    @PhilipGarlant-ik7ff Год назад +7

    Brilliant interview, 👍👊👏

  • @timhicks2154
    @timhicks2154 Год назад +16

    Khan must go. ULEZ must be scrapped. Just another tax

    • @leerubybritvic1990
      @leerubybritvic1990 Год назад +1

      ULEZ needs to stop until the next election.Otherwise Labour going loose all the seats in London.And we have Conservatives for another 5 years.

    • @routmaster38
      @routmaster38 Год назад +1

      Idiot Johnson started this.

  • @nascar0509
    @nascar0509 Год назад +1

    "Keeping people hopeless and pessimistic - see I think there are two ways in which people are controlled - first of all frighten people and secondly demoralize them.
    An educated, healthy and confident nation is harder to govern."
    Tony Benn.

  • @peterreeton6051
    @peterreeton6051 Год назад +7

    my fuel injected bandit only pumps out 0.0008g per kilometer a car that pays zero rtax can pump out 120g per km go figure

  • @user-du8cp4ic3q
    @user-du8cp4ic3q 10 месяцев назад

    It's the same you can't get out and talk about all them matters and particle looks because we need people like you

  • @G0ogs
    @G0ogs Год назад +30

    I don’t live in London but if I did I certainly would not vote for any power that was pro ulez, it’s simply another tax.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад +3

      Why complain if you dont even live there.

    • @G0ogs
      @G0ogs Год назад +5

      @@catlerbatty sorry i didn’t realise it was a closed discussion 🙈

    • @BMF279
      @BMF279 Год назад +4

      @@catlerbattybecause today is London and tomorrow will be the whole country. I live in London and I am contended about 15min City scheme in Oxford for instance. Simply because if this madness is not stopped soon enough only the richest will be able to use ICE vehicles regardless of where one lives.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад +1

      @@BMF279 yeah but you DO know that there are a freakton of cars in london to the point of choking right? The traffic situation in the capitals worldwide is usually more dire than the rest of the country...

    • @MeYou-yz2yz
      @MeYou-yz2yz Год назад

      @@catlerbatty Because they will introduce it everywhere.

  • @SennaStar
    @SennaStar Год назад +12

    It's got EVERYTHING to do with Upper/Middle Classes dictating to the rest of us how we should live our lives, it's got nothing to do with Car or Bike riders it's all about control

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад

      When did the middle class become the ruling elite class 😂

    • @SennaStar
      @SennaStar Год назад +1

      @@catlerbatty go away loser and FAKE account

  • @camofilms
    @camofilms 9 месяцев назад +1

    i have just joined MAG, thanks

  • @veronicaalessandrello1022
    @veronicaalessandrello1022 Год назад +1

    Awesome 👏

  • @johngoff8923
    @johngoff8923 10 месяцев назад +1

    We need more like this and I’m afraid we need to take back control by force because once theses politicians are on £85k plus £200k expenses pa you won’t get them out!

  • @torque560
    @torque560 Год назад +3

    Well done BCG excellent interview

  • @denisdonoghue1580
    @denisdonoghue1580 Год назад +2

    i think we ought to review our membership of AA.

  • @user-pv2qq6fv1w
    @user-pv2qq6fv1w 10 месяцев назад

    I missed this until today. What sensible discussion. Even in the West Country new houses are not built with off road parking or external car charging facilities. As a club we visit ACE cafe, just hope they keep going as a fantastic meeting destination or no doubt the area will be developed!

  • @andyseth4380
    @andyseth4380 11 месяцев назад +2

    I am a petrolhead and visit the Ace events for years. Thanks for the great video and brilliant interview with the 3 guys who know their stuff.

  • @andypattison8037
    @andypattison8037 Год назад +5

    It seems we are living in the indian summer of personal freedom

    • @davidpalk5010
      @davidpalk5010 Год назад

      That's right. They've just effectively outlawed our right to protest. Authoritarianism is here.

  • @johnreed2198
    @johnreed2198 Год назад +9

    Don't comply, simple.

    • @augustusmaximus891
      @augustusmaximus891 Год назад +3

      Try not complying with threats of jail, ruined credit scores, whatever they can tarnish they will.
      They will threat, and people will rightly be scared.
      I'm with you btw, just simulating it lol ❤

    • @johnreed2198
      @johnreed2198 Год назад

      @@augustusmaximus891 Threats only work on spineless people and its spineless people is why this is happening don't have any backbone. Cowards

    • @augustusmaximus891
      @augustusmaximus891 Год назад +2

      @Andy-ms3ms For sure, would have to be very organised everyone in on it. But threatening everyone will put alot of people off its a powerful tool. I guess we will see 😁🙈

  • @emkey6823
    @emkey6823 Год назад +8

    I'm commuting on bike trough Ring Road A501 for nice few years now. Traffic lights management has been changing all that time. 7-10 years ago it was quite alright to drive with speed limits. Nowadays I see those cars driving 20mph speed limit getting stuck on almost every traffic light. This looks like intentional artificial traffic management by TFL&AI&Whatever to get all the drivers feed up off driving. I'm sad seeing those ambulances switching off their blue lights stuck in traffic heading for Paddington hospital (wonder how many people dies in them per week). Great guests in that interview! Is it possible to make an audit who actually controls the traffic light management? Who is responsible? Can we as road tax payers have anything to say about this in legitimate way?

    • @Thunderbloke2
      @Thunderbloke2 Год назад +1

      They are more appropriately called congestion lights.
      When the lights go out traffic frequently flows better.

    • @emkey6823
      @emkey6823 Год назад

      ​@@Thunderbloke2 totally agree 👍

  • @simonelliott5956
    @simonelliott5956 Год назад +6

    I don’t have a motorcycle, but I’m thinking of joining MAG anyway just to support what Lembit is doing.
    Another fine video, as I’ve said before, I don’t have a non compliant car, but like many other people, I see this as an ill conceived attack on our civil liberties, backed up by spurious facts, manipulated to frighten the public into complying to a tax presented to us with a complete lack of transparency or accountability.

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa 11 месяцев назад

      Just the type of response the dumbass author of this video loves. "I don't even have skin in the game, and I'm not profiting off cars like the YT author, but I'm going to simp for them anyhow"

  • @timhicks2154
    @timhicks2154 Год назад +8

    CO2 is a good and necessary gas. Need more, not less.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Год назад +1

      I've heard sniffing glue is good for kids, what do you have to say about that 🎤

    • @timhicks2154
      @timhicks2154 Год назад +1

      @@catlerbatty - I have to say you’re a gullible fool that believes the MSM & Government lies over CO2. And then some.

    • @timhicks2154
      @timhicks2154 Год назад +1

      @@catlerbatty - you’ve clearly been on the EvoStik for decades. Your poor, addled and shrivelled brain accepts any and all lies about CO2, despite every bit of it being fabricated drivel.

  • @timhicks2154
    @timhicks2154 Год назад +5

    Here’s the solution - do a burnout on Sadiq Khant.

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 Год назад +3

    Thank you for undertaking this discussion. As a motorist and a reluctant cyclist, motorbikes are something I had not thought about. I hear some really interesting comments about what should be called, and considered, "localism". I am saddened by the comments from these guys, yet I understand completely. I am even more saddened to the concept being manipulated at the political level. For example…
    "15 minute cities" actually has a long history going back to the days of Jane Jacobs writing and campaigning in New York and Toronto as long ago as 1961. She, herself, was heavily influenced by Ian Nairn, the British writer and broadcaster who complain of an "Outrage" in 1955, at the repetitive post-war reconstruction period (1945 to 1965) whereby all city suburbs were starting to look the same and be blighted by the same problems of design (lack of) and destruction of the heritage that once gave each town it's own character.
    Since the Planning Advisory Group, PAG Report of 1965 (which led to the Town & Country Planning Act of 1968), local planning and thence "localism" has been a growing thing. It was even more important by the time of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit where "Local Agenda 21" saw local action and local decision-making as part of the solution to "sustainable development". We appear to have forgotten all of that, since then. Instead, environmental campaigners are seeking to reverse growth labelling it all as "bad" - so much so that they even appear to demand a reduction in the birth-rate through centralised control (rather than through development which Is shown to cause reduced birthrates, globally).
    The true fact is this… since the 1990s, desired solutions have been favoured, politically, where the politicians do and can act with respect and contrition, what used to be called "liberalism". Both John Major's Government and that of New Labour were liberal and focused on constructive solutions, even changing the rules for government contract procurement - they began to demand a five-stage design-led process.
    If people were taught "design" then "localism" could work. Local planning could work. It should work. It must work if we are to have any future whatsoever. However, few people understand "design" and design-led frameworks. They are a development of things like business management and "project planning" (of which there is a long history of that, too - think of the Manhattan Project, often cited as the first example of large scale modern "project management"). Where architects have been employed to provide their skills (think of the late Sir Richard Rogers involvement in the London Docklands… try very hard to put it back on track'), they have often been overlorded by political pressures.
    Even in heritage and archaeology, design has been lacking. Only in 2004 did the planning act introduce "community archaeology" or more specifically "statements of community involvement". That was followed by things like the Localism Act of 2011, reminded in 2018… because local authorities did want the "duty to co-operate". In local authority, as in heritage and ecological conservation, people want absolute control. The World does not work like that. Design and "design management" (as it has been termed) is, by nature, a strongly collaborative process - very little used. I am so frustrated by this. I am angry at it. "DESIGN" - urban design, project design - can bring solutions that work for everybody.
    Yet, we reject it and yet take those designed-solutions and manipulate them to our own ends, with little contrition and no concern. One-size-fits-all.It's a good idea, ergo WE MUST. No it doesn't work like that… design is a skill and an aptitude that must be applied, open-endedly.

    • @HerrBasa
      @HerrBasa Год назад

      That wall of text is super fun. Meanwhile, cars control our cities and it's dangerous for me to cross the street outside my front door. What are we doing about that?

  • @user-ju6ud4go6b
    @user-ju6ud4go6b Год назад +8

    Meanwhile aeroplanes fly over and into/out of London.😂 its about control and raising tax revenue

  • @timhicks2154
    @timhicks2154 Год назад +6

    No need for even one EV on our roads

  • @adogmcdizzle
    @adogmcdizzle Месяц назад

    I think this needs a follow up now that ULEZ has been implemented london-wide.

  • @barriewilliams4526
    @barriewilliams4526 Год назад +4

    My 2010 Toyota Aygo (engine capacity being 998 cc) costs me £20 a year to tax. My much newer 2021 (so, presumably cleaner) Yamaha MT-03 (engine capacity being 321 cc) costs me £52 a year to tax🙃

    • @trevorphillips3055
      @trevorphillips3055 Год назад

      @barriewilliams4526 My partner used to own a 2013 diesel Honda civic that was zero ved. She now has a 2016 petrol polo, which is £20. It's crazy there's no logic to the cost of ved. Motorcycles shouldn't be £111 a year for over 600cc regardless of year.

    • @barriewilliams4526
      @barriewilliams4526 Год назад

      @@trevorphillips3055 I agree, especially as bikes are not usually used all the time. Make no sense.

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 Год назад +1

    As a London dweller, I really notice the freshness and cleanliness of the air when I leave the city, I’ve always thought that was mainly due to vehicle pollution as I notice it the most in the summer. During lockdowns the air did feel noticeably fresher. I find it hard to just deny this reality.

    • @BrownCarGuy
      @BrownCarGuy  Год назад +1

      Remember the discussion is regarding the 'expansion of ULEZ' to Outer London

    • @MrFuckwit999
      @MrFuckwit999 11 месяцев назад

      Hopefully the whole country will be a ULEZ soon.

    • @Crosshatch1212
      @Crosshatch1212 11 месяцев назад

      @@MrFuckwit999so u like getting scammed

  • @denisdonoghue1580
    @denisdonoghue1580 Год назад +4

    dose it include the london buses ?

  • @Lilly8Listens
    @Lilly8Listens Год назад +11

    Make sure Khan is out of a job in May.

  • @Nick-vl7df
    @Nick-vl7df Год назад +3

    Hello.
    I'm waiting to see what happens to the bailiffs when they try and collect fines for ULEZ from a Hell's Angels club house.
    Cheers.

  • @denisdonoghue1580
    @denisdonoghue1580 Год назад +2

    the RAC was for moter Cycle

  • @iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961
    @iwasntaguntilimovedouttheh3961 Год назад +5

    If you thought electric was expensive now, imagine when everyone is charging their cars overnight. 24/7 peak electricity prices.

    • @ivannewman1266
      @ivannewman1266 Год назад +2

      And how many more power stations we will need to keep up with demand

    • @leerubybritvic1990
      @leerubybritvic1990 Год назад +3

      We have only seven charging points at work It's not happening.We have a staff of 300 hundred and hundreds of vans.We been talking about electric cars for 40 years now.They explode .Look at the videos in America and China.Soon someone's house is going to burn down.The roll out needs to stop .Until they find safe battery.

    • @trevorphillips3055
      @trevorphillips3055 Год назад +1

      I honestly can't see the 2030 ban in new ice cars happening. The infrastructure will be nowhere near ready, for a big uptake of electric vehicles. The national grid is bearly going to meet the demand of new house building / population increase. I think as we get closer to the deadline, it'll be extended.

    • @leerubybritvic1990
      @leerubybritvic1990 Год назад +2

      @@trevorphillips3055 Yes no power for any electric cars.We been talking about this for 40 years.The batteries explode.

    • @bradevans7935
      @bradevans7935 Год назад +1

      @@trevorphillips3055 Any extension or reversal of the 2030 ban would have to be done in the next year or two, as major car manufacturers are already making decisions in regard to production planning for 2029-30. If the current plan is changed any later than 2025, it will be too late, and manufacturers will, for the most part, only have EV's available in 2030.

  • @DingBatSplat
    @DingBatSplat Год назад +6

    Further to the comment by the owner of the 'Ace Cafe' stating that only the privileged will have personal transport. I live in Wales and on the Welsh governments web site in their transport plan is the statement that they intend TO MAKE ALL PRIVATE VEHICLE OWNERSHIP ILLEGALE BY 2028! Note this is not USE but OWNERSHIP of all forms of private vehicle ownership (mopeds, motorcycles, vans, cars, etc).
    I would take this statement seriously as their previous one of a blanket 20mph speed limit in place of 30mph for all Wales comes into force 17th September 2023!

    • @BrownCarGuy
      @BrownCarGuy  Год назад +2

      Can you let me have a link to that please?

    • @markbowden7238
      @markbowden7238 Год назад

      Welsh Government TM

    • @AlexOnABoat
      @AlexOnABoat Год назад

      Citation please, otherwise this is just rumour.

    • @guzzibob
      @guzzibob 9 месяцев назад

      The 20mph restrictions are creating a nation of rebels..not that many are sticking to the limits around here at least n the 20mph signs are getting "repainted"
      Senedd idiots have shot themselves in the foot

  • @davidweather3267
    @davidweather3267 11 месяцев назад

    I think it would be interesting if you used your air quality meter an inch away from the exhaust of a superbike and average car as a reference, at idle and at 3000rpm. Keep up the good work

  • @philipjones4044
    @philipjones4044 Год назад +3

    I think the thing is that NOx isn't the problem, it's when it's a still, sunny day and it gets converted into Ozone it becomes a problem.

    • @illegalopinions4082
      @illegalopinions4082 Год назад

      And even then it becomes a conversation about concentration, which starts turning eyes to the UK's ever expanding population. At some point people will have to piece it together out of sheer necessity.

  • @justghia4506
    @justghia4506 9 месяцев назад

    Legendary”ace cafe”

  • @jamesseats2611
    @jamesseats2611 11 месяцев назад

    power & control

  • @davidlevy1759
    @davidlevy1759 Год назад +2

    What's happening with the canal long boats ? Does any one know uh

  • @GreenVapourDrawSystems
    @GreenVapourDrawSystems Год назад +2

    VDS reduces emissions...
    We have the solution to meet MOT requirements

  • @colinculverwell325
    @colinculverwell325 Год назад +3

    Its worth checking the status of your bike. Some bikes are compliant although not registered as such. Check with your manufacturers. A friend has a 2005 Yamaha Fazer 1000. When this bike was produced there was no obligation to record the emissions on the v5 so Yamaha didnt . The bike is however compliant. As my friend has owned the bike from new Yamaha issued a certificate of compliance for free. I believe they will issue the same if you've bought the bike second hand but they charge £75 fior this. The other option is as said the go to a test centre but that looks like around £175. Other non compliant bikes can sometimes be made so with some mods. A guy on you tube had an old 90s Triumph converted for around £400. All depends on how much you want to keep the bike and how often you ride in the zone i guess. I even saw that some two strokes are ok. The Yamaha RD350ypvs came up. But at the end of the day as we all know its about the revenue. You cant bring your dirty vehicle into the zone unless you pay. If you do pay then suddenly its ok and never mind whats coming out the exhaust.

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 11 месяцев назад

      The £175 is only for the test .if it fails and you defo need the bike , then its another £150 to get it set up below ( or on) 0.15) to guarantee pass and then another £175 for the retest ( total £500 .
      I bit the bullet and had the set up and test £325.my bike is old but worth thousands so no choice really as even if I did not need to go into ULEZ zone ( I will periodic) not being exempt will affect the value of the Bike in the area I live right on the edge of the zone.

  • @AlexOnABoat
    @AlexOnABoat Год назад +5

    The problem for the Ace Cafe, is as Mark says, ignorance.
    The same day that this was recorded I was at the Ace Cafe listening to a man saying that this would be his last visit to the Ace because of Kahn's ULEZ.
    He was riding a 2022 Kawasaki!

    • @BrownCarGuy
      @BrownCarGuy  Год назад +1

      Doh!

    • @AlexOnABoat
      @AlexOnABoat Год назад

      @@BrownCarGuy Very, very doh! As users of the internal combustion engine we really need to educate ourselves better, whether that's the effects of anthropogenic climate change, which frankly is nigh on impossible to deny, the best ways to mitigate our fossil fuel use, but also the current and future legislation that will effect us.
      Mr "Too fat for his one piece leather racing suit" is the person who is going to have the most effect on businesses like the Ace Café. It only takes a cursory look around the car park to realise that almost all the motorcycles there won't be paying the ULEZ charge, either because they're young enough to be compliant, or old enough to be exempt.
      As someone who rides daily in London, I would struggle to count the number of motorcycles that will have to pay the ULEZ charge on two hands. Yes there are the grizzled bike couriers on taped together bikes they bought back in the 90's but the vast majority are riding ULEZ compliant bikes, many less than 3 years old that they've bought on finance.
      And for riders of older machines it's not as if there's a huge price difference between a non-compliant motorcycle and one a few years younger that is ULEZ compliant, a glance at recent sales on ebay pulls up plenty under two grand, a lot of them are 125s of course, but there's SV650s and even a 2017 Honda Rebel that sold for a grand.

    • @gregsmith7821
      @gregsmith7821 9 месяцев назад

      Totally agree about the ignorance, almost everyone I know who complained about ulez was unaffected.
      Moreover, I know a few people who went on the marches and demonstrations, who have never had a driving licence, let alone ever owned a motor vehicle.😂

  • @michaeljohnson1006
    @michaeljohnson1006 Год назад

    You might want to look at the locations of the pollution monitoring stations and if they are close enough to the roads

    • @BrownCarGuy
      @BrownCarGuy  Год назад

      See part 2 of my air quality ruclips.net/video/2QJpRrztcDM/видео.html

  • @chozenkulture
    @chozenkulture Год назад +1

    Love how we have people in the background smoking (albeit outside) around children and adults. 😂. Government is punishing people that have very little impact on other people health and the air in general than people taking responsibility for their own health/lifestyles.

  • @sadiqalam2815
    @sadiqalam2815 Год назад

    Thank you for keeping up the great videos, the only suggestion I would make it stop going. Yeah every few seconds when someone is talking, nodding or something but the constant ‘yeah’ is quite annoying.

  • @timhicks2154
    @timhicks2154 Год назад +4

    Coal. Isn’t that EV fuel?

  • @gregsmith7821
    @gregsmith7821 9 месяцев назад

    Baring in mind, anything over 40 years old is exempt. As per most motorcycles under 16 years old.
    Granted you are stuffed if you are in-between but tbh, if you can aford the luxury of a motorbike in that specific era, with running costs and upkeep, £12.50 ulez is the least of your problems.😂

  • @Dan_druft
    @Dan_druft 10 месяцев назад

    He's a cheeky boy

  • @Critical_Stinking
    @Critical_Stinking 9 месяцев назад +1

    Cheeky cheeky

  • @tonysales3687
    @tonysales3687 10 месяцев назад

    The air pollution problem which is regularly monitored not only by government but also the met office, there are also very good air quality hand held devices you can buy for around £100.
    From all of these data sources the results show that even busy roads are well within health limits and that the majority of exceeded limits to health are clearly shown to be caused by trains, mainly the underground and lesser so by overland trains, and the jumps in reduced air quality are quite substantial. i personally do not have any bias as i do not live in London, but i did look at the data.
    Further investigation showed a link to brake dust and other particulates around static sites like train stations, where the dust is regularly stirred up with each arrival and departure. The levels regularly reached into the hazardous limit for human health. For ice cars the brake dust limits were there but acceptable, for EV cars less so due to regenerative braking. hope that helps, stay safe everyone.

  • @yorkiegilly4355
    @yorkiegilly4355 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good video and so much better when no sitting politicians with an axe to grind to keep their seats ?. Used to be a regular visitor to the Ace even tho it was a long way to go on some of the grotty ,badly maintained bikes of the day . Been there in a Morris Minor van ,a old Merc. and even a old lorry ,just before it closed in the late 60s .But we bikers from the North are a bit nervous how much it will cost for a day visit as London to us is already a expensive place to visit ?. We can only hope all this woke rubbish being forced on us is cut back or better still abandoned .To petrolheads this is a living nightmare ,which 20 years ago would never have been dreamt of . Good luck Mark & The Ace ! .

  • @user-hf7jp2lt5x
    @user-hf7jp2lt5x Год назад

    Both my bikes have full catalytic converters and do over 75mpg. Both are subject to the ULEZ charge. My Cooper S which achieves about 40 mpg is exempt. Guess. I will take the car which definitely produces more pollution than either bike.

  • @michaeljohnson1006
    @michaeljohnson1006 Год назад +2

    I've noticed lately "some" cyclists just launching themselves off the pavement into the road without even looking it's getting terrible.

  • @hazrobson2305
    @hazrobson2305 Год назад +1

    This is the government detracting from the real issues of the day.

  • @kenh3344
    @kenh3344 Год назад +1

    We the people are free to roam freely why are we dictators telling us whwat we can and cannot do whT we can and cannot have what we can and cannot buy.???

  • @stevie5141
    @stevie5141 11 месяцев назад

    Lembit … Topman.. we’ll said

  • @woooster71
    @woooster71 Год назад +2

    So as a bit of a serial collector of 1990s era Sportbikes.. I would need to obtain a CoC for each of them, or pay £150 or whatever it is, to get each of them tested?? Jesus, I do barely 500 miles/year - between ALL of them!
    Meanwhile…in China & Russia 💨🌍🦠🙄
    I have never been a member of MAG, but I will look to join now

  • @lestorhaslam
    @lestorhaslam 11 месяцев назад +1

    Our old SEAT Arosa would regularly achieve 75 m.p.g.. Have a look at the appalling, filthy and lethal conditions the workers who mine the raw materials for the batteries have to contend with and then say you’ll buy an e.v. with a clear conscience.

  • @stevenharrison488
    @stevenharrison488 Год назад

    From what I can make out is that the ulez cameras read the front number plate correct? If so motorcycles don't have front number plate, problem solved😆😆👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @settertwo
    @settertwo Год назад +2

    Until they ban Volcanic Activity and Solar Radiation I'm not giving up my Vehicles 😂

  • @andywiffen9068
    @andywiffen9068 Год назад +2

    How about historic vehicle. Eg pre 83

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 Год назад +1

    You need to be clear ULEZ is only about NOX, so some older vehicles are allowed when people might not realise.

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 11 месяцев назад

      General rule is petrol beyond 2nd half of 2007 is prob ok .
      And diesel beyond 2016 is ok.
      Bikes beyond 2004 prob won't be able to get a COC As Nox levels were not required on them then.

  • @macmcstar
    @macmcstar Год назад +1

    If we cannot have the courage to vote for the likes of Reform UK AGAINST THE NORMAL LOT WE ARE EFFD

  • @TCbiker2916
    @TCbiker2916 11 месяцев назад

    If they wanted to reduce emissions all speed limits should be between 55 - 60

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 11 месяцев назад

      😂 in London in those speeds .No way.

  • @drgeoffangel5422
    @drgeoffangel5422 10 месяцев назад

    Well if the British Government was to adopt Wales's new 20 mph limit, then , electric bikes will be the only vehicle people will be driving, or people riding ICI motor bikes in 1st gear everywhere!

  • @midge225
    @midge225 10 месяцев назад

    How about 2 stroke

  • @AlexOnABoat
    @AlexOnABoat Год назад

    I do love watching Lembit Opik, chairman of the self-proclaimed Parliament of the Space Nation of Asgardia, speak.
    He's got such a wonderful ability to push awkward questions under the carpet, he should have been a successful politician...
    ... oh wait.
    Doesn't it worry any normal, sensible bikers that we're being represented by the Climate Change denying Motorcycle Action Group Ltd?
    It certainly worries me that someone like Lembit "I found a piece of research on the Internet once" Opik feels he can speak for all motorcyclists.

    • @GTMarmot
      @GTMarmot Год назад +3

      Lembit and MAG are doing a great job countering your religion.

    • @AlexOnABoat
      @AlexOnABoat Год назад

      @@GTMarmot Really? Because from where I'm sitting Opik looks like a climate denying fruit loop with some dodgy Russian arms-dealing friends.

  • @stemun4084
    @stemun4084 Год назад +1

    why would they want to slow down to 20 when all that dose is higher the revs of the engine causing it to use a lot more fuel!

  • @criscross572
    @criscross572 Год назад +1

    Its the same control policy with housing everyone living in city concentration camps called 15 minute zones, its all about control.

  • @wesleymorley
    @wesleymorley Год назад

    he doesn't believe did he believe in the cheeky girls.🇬🇧.

  • @superloopy24v
    @superloopy24v Год назад +2

    Sadiq should be paying for all tests, why should anyone pay to prove their bike meets his requirement just because he couldn't be bothered to test or obtain data for the entire back catalogue of bikes on the road still.
    Though he shouldn't be running the ULEZ cash grab scheme anyway.

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Год назад

    Bikers that ride in other Ulez zones but find out you aren't compliant for London You need to go to two test areas one is Stratford old ford road. For pre eu3 but i must warn you that if that old it will fail the first test. To pass you may need to install a catalytic converter to one of you exausts then test again to pass this will then be sent to the DVLA and update the camera database so you wont be charged for riding in London. Google it, as another centre has opened just outside London. Ringing the manufacturer isn't acceptable. Unless it says eu 3 or higher in the v5 form you will need that test or you will be charged come aug

  • @CY3ERD0G
    @CY3ERD0G 11 месяцев назад +2

    Time to remove number plates

  • @steveclark..
    @steveclark.. Год назад

    Did MAG or any other such groups fight the change to the highway code? Making motorists stop for pedestrians in dangerous spots, where we could be rear ended basically. Do they pressure councils to provide motorcycle parking? Horncastle in Lincolnshire for example, I can't even pay to park a bike there, the signs say that it's only for cars and vans! I've been a biker since the 80's, the likes of MAG seem to do more for us back then.

    • @AlexOnABoat
      @AlexOnABoat Год назад

      If you're rear-ended it's because the vehicle behind you is to close.
      It's not about whether a pedestrian has the right to cross at a junction.

    • @steveclark..
      @steveclark.. Год назад

      @@AlexOnABoat Vehicles are often too close behind and they don't expect you to stop just after you turn into a road just to let a pedestrian cross.
      It's a stupid change to the highway code period! Drivers with any sense are not going to follow it for their own safety.

  • @Davidlouis3
    @Davidlouis3 7 месяцев назад

    Ace Cafe guy makes me fall asleep, stuttering through his speech

  • @neilling436
    @neilling436 Год назад +1

    time to act stand up and say no