I can't. I'm an animator and the maximum projects I got, need Adobe Animate specifically. I can ditch the photoshop with clip studio, premiere pro with da vinci. But animate I can't.🥲
I'd rather they don't waste any breath if they don't include some AMD processor. It's WILD that after all these year not even 1 company ever made an AMD tablet that can do some heavy 3D workloads (which requires the GPU).
Hard to understand why MS pen is not absolutely first rate drawing instrument by this iteration. 11 years of Surface Pro, that's way more than enough time to perfect this technology.
@@Dave102693 They don't update the pen with every iteration. The last time was pen tech itself was updated was when the Slim Pen 2 was released with the Pro 8. So if you are coming from a Pro 8, 9, or 10, this Pro 11's pen will behave exactly the same.
It's a shame. It's the only thing that is stopping me from switching over from an ipad. The apple pencil is superior, and it really shouldn't be at this point.
What happened with adobe? Adobe has been there for years, unless there's real bad stuff with almost everyone feel it, i don't think any movement will come to action. Also, even if such movement about to take place, what do you suggest "professionals" should use as substitute? A Substitute that runs with a quality that at least 90% as good as adobe?
Thanks for this great review of something I'm on the fence about buying. As an unapologetic doodler (not an "artist"), your UX focused review was useful to me. Also, many thanks for not adding distracting background music! Your voice and excellent script writing is more than enough (also thanks for not yelling at your audience :-)
Thanks for covering the graphics tablet driver piece. Apple had the same problem too, but I don't know how long it took to be fixed. Hopefully Wacom and the other tablet manufacturers add Arm support for their Windows drivers soon.
Major difference is that Apple had developer transition kits out like six months before the first Apple Silicon Macs were released so vendors had time to port their software. Qualcomm and Microsoft really dropped the ball on dev kits and we're only just now getting dev kits about a month after the first Snapdragon X Windows machines are already out.
The cost of the keyboard and pen made this device a hard no. I was excited for Windows on arm to finally get some real options, the driver issues and app compatibility were not deal breakers as those would get better with time. The lack luster GPU performance of the top end snapdragon processor was also a bit of a disappointment.
This is the new Flex keyboard, which is incredibly expensive. But it's just a new option. The "old" non-bluetooth keyboard is still fully available & compatible, and it costs way less than this.
Very inexpensive third-party keyboards and pens are available. Some of the third-party keyboards even support Bluetooth. Some have pen storage as well, unfortunately not charging, just storage.
Apple and Samsung charges even more for their keyboard + pen 😂 plus they also offer other keyboard options without the pen and wireless that's lower priced.
I love your reviews! It’s amazing how little reviewers there are for art focused consumers you really do a great job :) one question if I may, Do you think you could run Blender on this for 2D animation pretty reliably? Looking for something to run Blender without fear of breaking the screen (galaxy book4) with an at least okay drawing experience. Thank you!
Yes and no. It really depends on what you want to do in blender. Building models or environments or animating in 3D: Yes. Rendering is really slow, so if you want to see how your animation runs with the cycles engine on it's going to be really rough. Also exporting your animation here is going to take forever.
@@thebradcolbow Thank you for the quick reply! I’ll take that into consideration, it’s been rough trying to find a 2 in 1 laptop, I would just get an iPad and run Fresco but I’ve heard it’s not really made for longer form animations. 🫠
A fun test would be to check out what your experience would be today with Windows 11 24H2 on your Surface Pro X. It will certainly not out perform the Snapdragon X processors, but the experience might be better than when you made your original review.
@@thebradcolbow It does. I do have a Surface Pro X myself. By default 24H2 is not an available update yet, but it is when you switch to the "Preview Channel". I managed to update my Surface Pro X to version 24h2 this way.
It's great to see you test as a tablet! Im looking foreard to picking up one. I wonder ifnthe 32 GB is worth the money... What do you think? Does the OLED display have any graininess? That's what people are criticizing.
Im drawing on a galaxy book 3 360 and tried procreate on the new ipad and i knew It was going to be my next drawing machine, util I heard about the new surface which I've always loved the desing but see it lacking in other ways specially price, but since drawing is a bit worse here than the ipad im still going for the later thanks to your review ;)
I prefer the iPad. It really depends on all the things you need to do. The ipad is a great companion device where this can be your everyday computer but it's not as fun to draw on.
@@mannyw_ what do you mean ? Surface has a kickstand. You do not "carry" it when using it. The only time you CARRY the tablet, therefore with the keyboard, actually, the iPad Pro + Magic Keyboard is 25%...HEAVIER. So I do not see how you could refer to the Surface Pro in this context.
Hey Brad, would you be trying out the ProArt PZ13. Seems like a very decent and very cost effective rival to the surface pro. Also if you could do a video on windows convertibles such as the spectre x360 14. It has constantly been regarded as one of the best all around laptops. Would love to see your artsy take on it!
It might, but it’s still going to be slow. Half the magic is the pure performance of the X chips which the SQ1 and similar chips and generations just severely lack.
@codebraker12 slight Increase, nothing ground breaking, but I use only two lightweight apps in emulation. Everything else is already arm compatible so I don't know how it would behave in heavier workloads
It never did in my first few days of use (updates, batch install apps, a few drawing session in krita). It is only warm to the touch when charging. The difference is night and day if you are coming from a surface pro 8/9.
Did you use the 16gb ram or the 32gb ram version? I prefer affinity photo over photoshop ( because similar UI and no abo ) and i wanna edit some videos as well
How does the OLED hold up? I'm looking to get that version, but the folks over on the surfave subreddit are saying the OLED is falling short when it comes to text. Also the touch digital layer on the screen is noticeable when you get up close since the LED and the touch stuff are not lined up. Thoughts?
Nice video. I have the Surface Pro 8 and am comparing to my iPad Pro 2018 to find out which I want to upgrade. Right now the Surface Pro is leading. I use the Adeway Matte Screen Protector. Like it a lot though wish there was an Astropad Rock Paper Pencil available that I use on my iPad Pro (the the metal tip and the ability to remove the screen since the Adeway sticks on). I would sure expect this fall we will get the Lunar Lake version of Surface Pro 11 and I expect it will be a little faster CPU and GPU. Maybe I will go with Surface Laptop Studio though not sure what Matte Screen Protectors are available. I hate drawing on glass.
i love your take and review i wished you would have kept chiming in more about why the new surface line does not have premier pro on it. and why is the surface pro like the show stopper
thank you for the review. Do you use painter at all? and if so have you tried it on the surface pro 11? I'm tempted to make the jump but was concerned about emulation.
Do you know if it can run AutoCAD? Really need a tablet for sketching and architectural work, and a mobile CAD editor/viewer if I'm away from my PC. Thanks! Great review!
I've been waiting for this review since launch. As an Adobe pirate, I rely on using Windows, so this tablet seems like a fantastic choice - aside from the average pen. I wonder whether firmware updates could offer pen improvements? As there's no Android version of Fresco, this is pretty much the only option for me and I'm glad that you found it to be a positive experience. My only remaining question would be, is the more expensive X Elite worth it? I'm not fussed about OLED, but I wonder whether there's a tangible drawing performance difference between the Plus and Elite models?
@@israelramirez0202 Literally any modern gaming laptop with decent specs is more usable than any surface. I have both, and I only give the surface 8 work it can handle like drawing. Everything that demands anything is done on the desktop tower
I loved the video, excellent analysis. I have a question. I want to replace my old laptop and was wondering if Unity, Godot, and 3D Coat work well on the Surface Pro 11. I'd like to confirm before spending money.
Game dev here, nogo on unity and I'm pretty sure I've seen others say godot doesn't work. Didn't try 3d coat. If you are also an artist I recommend going with the hp 360 spectre. The oled is great, it has color correct profiles, 4050 Dgpu and a good enough processor. If you don't need the drawing aspect then you really wanna just get the highest specs you can afford.
@@getkawedbythecrow2524a 2in1 that’s decent needs a DGPU that puts them all around 1700 usd. You could get a budget laptop and a plain drawing tablet for 70 bucks or get a galaxy tablet for 200-400 and a cheaper laptop and then use a program called super display. It works great and you could technically get away with a less color accurate laptop. Gaming laptops are notoriously bad with display colors.
Can't wait for it. A tiny Surface Go & Surface Laptop Go with Arm processor that can last very long sounds like a very portable dream. A full PC that can take anywhere & holds a charge.
gonna wait on it a little. I use galaxy book 4 360 atm literally just bought it. I'll wait till everything is optimized for this new chip then trade in and get a new 360 edge model whenever that may come out.
@@Noizahorikku my display is doing just fine. Is there anymore context as to how the cracking happened? I haven't pushed my comp to its limits. plus I got a nice deal for the best buy warranty for both hardware and software issues. I'll say this tho, I legit only bought it for the 360 feature for drawing, comes with Samsung's great pen and I have other samsung devices to work hand n hand with it. If you see a more affordable 2 in 1 with the same specs and whatnot, keep the options open. Books like ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED, Lenovo Yoga 9i 2 in 1, and my favourite looking 2 in 1 (design wise) is the surface laptop studio 2 that thing is perfectly designed but too dang expensive lol. So I would just keep your options on Samsung, Lenovo, and Asus for now and look around more from other recommenders.
@kickbeez642 Thanks a lot for your reply. Some people have been posting pics showing cracks on their displays and speculating that it could be the heat when they closed the laptop and the display being too thin. I found no official news or reference regarding this, but it made me hesitate. I was looking forward to build up my Samsung ecosystem if the drawing experience was good, and it seems to be the case.
@@Isengardtom yeah I had a surface pro 4. Switched to the iPad Pro for 5 years in hopes it’d get better programs like blender and godot. Turns out they’ll never come because of apples dumb App Store guidelines, even though it’s ridiculously capable now. So yeah, got sick of it being held back
I'd be curious to see how it performs with programming, it'll probably handle cross platform stuff but how will it handle windows specific C# libs and such
With Arm, the power draw is so low, you can happily get the "plugged in" performance, while unplugged, for more hours of battery life. Did you test compatability??? You only need "Basic" HID (human input device) drivers to use a tablet.
Questions: does it have a fan? I want a Windows based alternative to MacBook Air that can be used for light video editing and family usage (heavy browsing, etc)
The whole point of the Surface vs the Ipad was it was a PC that could run all those windows apps natively... but now its advantages are also rans. I just don't see a point in the switch to arm for tablets.
Battery life and heat. Two biggest problems with the surface line. Also even under emulation, the performance difference between this and the surface pro 10 is minimal while being more efficient
@@christianr.5868 processing isn't bad, graphics aren't all that great, and I doubt you will be able to use an eGPU with an arm based machine. I could be wrong though but something tells me the drivers would be emulated.
that depends on the apps... no doubt windows has more apps that other platforms. But in my case I use the affinity suite for photos, desktop publishing, etc. and they are equivalent across windows/mac/ipad. games aren't going to be a strong suit on this... the performance isn't there on the surface... so apps taht are available on the ipad especially a comparable M4 pro are going to run circles around the surface. I could run games on an egpu on older surface but im guessing thats going to have issues on Arm with nvidia drivers and pciexpress support. I develop and all my dev tools are windows.. so I need a windows box for that... but id rather run it native than emulated, im a purist when im testing code I want as little 'wierdness' in between what im writing and the target as I can. That said... Playgrounds on the ipad is a nice dev environment with fast iteration of changes. I don't use xcode on the mac anymore, its just easier to code directly on the ipad But like anything specialty software you use is going to be a dealbreaker for some on this platform ro that platform.
Ipad is an amazing tablet, not a great pc outside of basic basic text stuff. Surface is heavier and does it all but windows ui sucks for tablets and it's not really setup for tablets.
I'll never get back to any Surface model after using the Surface Book 2, jfc. Windows updates made the pen unusable, you couldn't draw diagonal lines with it
So not all touching screen laptops made for drawing have the option to use external drawings tablets? I'm using a screenless wacom tablet and I would like to have a opinion to switch between drawing on my tablet ant in the laptop screen.
If you are happy using your non screen wacom I think they are better as you get a clearer view of your drawing from the screen.. I know a car designer who draws in 3d with nurbs on a wacom tablet but looking up at a big screen and his workflow is lightning fast, he tried on screen tech but found it got in the way.
HI! I've been putting off buying a Surface or iPad type device for years because no one fully satisfies what I would like to do. Essentially digital painting, a little Blender at an amateur level and complete PC programs for photo editing (even Nikon ones). Have you made any videos where you discuss the combined use of Mac Mini and iPad Pro? Because this would be one of the solutions within Apple. For the surface however... do you think it needs a protective film? And what would be the best pens with the Microsoft protocol to use? Thank you very much and congratulations for the videos you produce!!
For Apple, you can go with Mac Mini plus a digital tablet (the ones that are 22+ size) so you actually use the raw power of ... let say m1 (or better) with a display where you can draw on. For Windows (what I have): is just a 10 dollar cheap tablet that is to be represented on a full monitor (24') and well the cpu. I don't waste money on the last cintiq big monitor for drawing because I prefer a monitor (normal for pc) with good colors and a cheap tablet (with out screen) for saving money.
I am a Game Artist and spent many many 100s of dollars on these kinds of things. There's no perfect device. If you want all in one for art and power... you gotta get a beefy 2-1 like the spectre x360 with a 4050. But it's 16 inches and fairly large. It draws as good as a surface which is worse than galaxy tab/ipad. But even buying the best apps for ipad theres no really good work flow for 3D. It's all kinda wonky.... streaming ipad to pc is also a pain and works much worse than streaming a galaxy tab to use as a second pc screen for art. For pens I've tried em all. I like the meta pen or RENAISSER pen. They all basically work the same and they are all a step below the tablets from samsung/ipad.
Will you review the Huawei matepad 11.5"s and the new Gopaint drawing app pls ? I really need an artist review before buying it ! Also which operating system is better for artists who are taking drawing as a hobby and don't wanna spend a lot of money , android or windows ?
Doesn’t adobe work on the M processor MacBook devices? Those are ARM processors as well aren’t they? I don’t understand why they don’t work for the Snapdragon Elite chips
Normally a big fan of the Surface Pro but this year I like the Asus PZ13 better in this form factor. Comes with the keyboard and is a really elegantly designed thing. Will be interesting to see if that picks up traction
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Screw Adobe anyway.
Same
I can't. I'm an animator and the maximum projects I got, need Adobe Animate specifically. I can ditch the photoshop with clip studio, premiere pro with da vinci. But animate I can't.🥲
Time for Samsung to come out with an iPad Pro competitor with a tablet form factor that has S-Pen and runs WINDOWS!
I'd rather they don't waste any breath if they don't include some AMD processor. It's WILD that after all these year not even 1 company ever made an AMD tablet that can do some heavy 3D workloads (which requires the GPU).
I would love a samsumg ultra windows PC size
@@alyxredmond8753what about minisforum v3 tablet?
I think they have a flippy laptop that had spent support already?
@@alyxredmond8753Minisforum Tablet V3 has Ryzen 8840U.
Canva/Affinity decision to run on ARM chips natively is a very good move.
Adobe: You can install what we allow you to
Paying users: dang! we can't use your apps on the new surface
Pirates: pathetic!
lmao
Dont pirate adobe. Its not worth it. Use affinity!
Shocking that those who pirate their software are getting a superior service to us who paid!
@@CammieRacing Piracy was always a service problem not a money problem lol
@@candylord2739what service do you need to use Adobe softwares 😵💫.
Hard to understand why MS pen is not absolutely first rate drawing instrument by this iteration. 11 years of Surface Pro, that's way more than enough time to perfect this technology.
Maybe they might improve the tech now
@@Dave102693 They don't update the pen with every iteration. The last time was pen tech itself was updated was when the Slim Pen 2 was released with the Pro 8. So if you are coming from a Pro 8, 9, or 10, this Pro 11's pen will behave exactly the same.
@@darkmagistric To be fair the update from the 8 made it good enough. It's not the best but its finally usable, it wasn't before for pro work imo.
It's a shame. It's the only thing that is stopping me from switching over from an ipad. The apple pencil is superior, and it really shouldn't be at this point.
@@orlfane1622 how is it superior?
Blender for arm is in beta as we speak
Nice! and not surprising at all, that team is really on top of things.
I've been googling and youtubing fir this for about 2 weeks
No wonder why it so smooth on a arm windows tablet 🤯
Blender has been on ARM for a while via Apple Silicon and Metal
@@schizofennec arm64 for windows is what I meant
Or, hear me out, you could cancel Creative Cloud and help push the movement against Adobe and their predatory practices.
Not really an option for many professionals.
What happened with adobe? Adobe has been there for years, unless there's real bad stuff with almost everyone feel it, i don't think any movement will come to action. Also, even if such movement about to take place, what do you suggest "professionals" should use as substitute? A Substitute that runs with a quality that at least 90% as good as adobe?
an arm wrestle!
That would have made a great title :D
Nice!
Good one!!
ARM race joke also works :P
Thanks for this great review of something I'm on the fence about buying. As an unapologetic doodler (not an "artist"), your UX focused review was useful to me. Also, many thanks for not adding distracting background music! Your voice and excellent script writing is more than enough (also thanks for not yelling at your audience :-)
Your review is the one I've been waiting for!! Ty
Cool, i was waiting for your vid on this device. Thank you!
Me hearing you can install Clip Studio Paint: "Good."
Me hearing you can't install Adobe tools: "GOOD!"
Thanks for covering the graphics tablet driver piece. Apple had the same problem too, but I don't know how long it took to be fixed. Hopefully Wacom and the other tablet manufacturers add Arm support for their Windows drivers soon.
Major difference is that Apple had developer transition kits out like six months before the first Apple Silicon Macs were released so vendors had time to port their software. Qualcomm and Microsoft really dropped the ball on dev kits and we're only just now getting dev kits about a month after the first Snapdragon X Windows machines are already out.
The cost of the keyboard and pen made this device a hard no. I was excited for Windows on arm to finally get some real options, the driver issues and app compatibility were not deal breakers as those would get better with time. The lack luster GPU performance of the top end snapdragon processor was also a bit of a disappointment.
This is the new Flex keyboard, which is incredibly expensive.
But it's just a new option. The "old" non-bluetooth keyboard is still fully available & compatible, and it costs way less than this.
Drivers are predicted to hit AMD 780m 3D performance eventually which crushes Intel Xe by a wide margin...
Very inexpensive third-party keyboards and pens are available. Some of the third-party keyboards even support Bluetooth. Some have pen storage as well, unfortunately not charging, just storage.
Very inexpensive comparing to ipad magic keyboard 💀
Apple and Samsung charges even more for their keyboard + pen 😂 plus they also offer other keyboard options without the pen and wireless that's lower priced.
FINALLY!!!BEEN WAITING LIKE ALMOST A WEEK NOW
I love your reviews! It’s amazing how little reviewers there are for art focused consumers you really do a great job :) one question if I may, Do you think you could run Blender on this for 2D animation pretty reliably? Looking for something to run Blender without fear of breaking the screen (galaxy book4) with an at least okay drawing experience. Thank you!
Yes and no. It really depends on what you want to do in blender. Building models or environments or animating in 3D: Yes. Rendering is really slow, so if you want to see how your animation runs with the cycles engine on it's going to be really rough. Also exporting your animation here is going to take forever.
@@thebradcolbow Thank you for the quick reply! I’ll take that into consideration, it’s been rough trying to find a 2 in 1 laptop, I would just get an iPad and run Fresco but I’ve heard it’s not really made for longer form animations. 🫠
Already buying one unit ❤
I so very much appreciate your THOROUGH reviews of windows/android products! Thanks for all you do!
Thanks.. Don't tell anyone but it's a lot of fun too 😄
A fun test would be to check out what your experience would be today with Windows 11 24H2 on your Surface Pro X. It will certainly not out perform the Snapdragon X processors, but the experience might be better than when you made your original review.
I had never thought of that. Would that version of Windows have the same translation layer that we see here?
@@thebradcolbow It does. I do have a Surface Pro X myself. By default 24H2 is not an available update yet, but it is when you switch to the "Preview Channel". I managed to update my Surface Pro X to version 24h2 this way.
did you try video editing with davinci resolve?
Great review as always! More importantly - WHERE did you get that awesome sci-fi spaceships T-shirt? I must have it!
How is the oled screen ? Not too grainy?
It's great to see you test as a tablet! Im looking foreard to picking up one. I wonder ifnthe 32 GB is worth the money... What do you think?
Does the OLED display have any graininess? That's what people are criticizing.
There is 32gb ram option?
Finally got a MacBook M1 pro 😅
Let's get a milion for the Bradman
Damn it's been ages, I rememer watching surface pro 4 review of yours as my first video here. I feel ancient.
Is there any updates on this in regards to how is performing with apps (specifically Adobe apps) now? Thanks
Im drawing on a galaxy book 3 360 and tried procreate on the new ipad and i knew It was going to be my next drawing machine, util I heard about the new surface which I've always loved the desing but see it lacking in other ways specially price, but since drawing is a bit worse here than the ipad im still going for the later thanks to your review ;)
Strange to see an actual useful tablet - The new ipad pro is severely lacking when it comes to software.
I'd suggest testing for pen jitter by tracing along a straight edge for consistency . i.e. plastic ruler or the edge of a box.
I have the new surface and I love it!
Would be neat to have a fancy robotic arm that you could motion capture yourself drawing, and have it repeat the movement for every tested tablet.
Do you think the Surface Pro is a better option than the iPad Pro for illustration?
I prefer the iPad. It really depends on all the things you need to do. The ipad is a great companion device where this can be your everyday computer but it's not as fun to draw on.
@@thebradcolbow+ too heavy for tablet use
@Isengardtom an iPad is not that heavy but yeah, without kickstand, a chore to always have to carry, I agree.
they’re probably talking about the Surface Pro
@@mannyw_ what do you mean ? Surface has a kickstand. You do not "carry" it when using it.
The only time you CARRY the tablet, therefore with the keyboard, actually, the iPad Pro + Magic Keyboard is 25%...HEAVIER.
So I do not see how you could refer to the Surface Pro in this context.
Hey Brad, would you be trying out the ProArt PZ13. Seems like a very decent and very cost effective rival to the surface pro. Also if you could do a video on windows convertibles such as the spectre x360 14. It has constantly been regarded as one of the best all around laptops. Would love to see your artsy take on it!
What happen to the SQ1 processor on the previous surface X? did it got the new translation layer of this windows 11 update?
It might, but it’s still going to be slow. Half the magic is the pure performance of the X chips which the SQ1 and similar chips and generations just severely lack.
Yes, I use the one with sg2 and it has the same new prism translation layer
@@MsAlanos thank you, what about the performance has it increased?
@codebraker12 slight Increase, nothing ground breaking, but I use only two lightweight apps in emulation. Everything else is already arm compatible so I don't know how it would behave in heavier workloads
It did. You can watch the gadget guy's video on it.
Thanks for the review. Does it heat up? How’s the heat management compared to an iPad?
It never did in my first few days of use (updates, batch install apps, a few drawing session in krita). It is only warm to the touch when charging. The difference is night and day if you are coming from a surface pro 8/9.
i have switched to fresco and never looked back
Hi Brad, is the x plus sufficient for graphic design, photo and video editing rather than the x elite?
Did you use the 16gb ram or the 32gb ram version? I prefer affinity photo over photoshop ( because similar UI and no abo ) and i wanna edit some videos as well
Damn, what a bummer about the pen.
Great review as usual though, I was really waiting for it!
great video thanks for breaking this down. Do you think this would be a good option to run an animation program like toonboom?
If Apple does not change ipad os by next year (2025) - we are all migrating to Surface Pro with Windows !!
2024, now…
For Adobe apps, don't you try to download the offline version of it? (not via CC apps)
I once requested directly through customer service
Can't find the link, but someone ran pirated Adobe apps (coz what else can you do?) on this chip and they said they run fine. So that's good.
I wonder how the SQ1 will be with all the new software update.
Can you do a review on that ?
How does the OLED hold up? I'm looking to get that version, but the folks over on the surfave subreddit are saying the OLED is falling short when it comes to text. Also the touch digital layer on the screen is noticeable when you get up close since the LED and the touch stuff are not lined up. Thoughts?
When using photoshop do you use wintab or windows ink? Do you see any performance difference between the two settings?
Your cartoons are insane 😂 I love the eyes 😅💪🔥
Nice video. I have the Surface Pro 8 and am comparing to my iPad Pro 2018 to find out which I want to upgrade. Right now the Surface Pro is leading. I use the Adeway Matte Screen Protector. Like it a lot though wish there was an Astropad Rock Paper Pencil available that I use on my iPad Pro (the the metal tip and the ability to remove the screen since the Adeway sticks on). I would sure expect this fall we will get the Lunar Lake version of Surface Pro 11 and I expect it will be a little faster CPU and GPU. Maybe I will go with Surface Laptop Studio though not sure what Matte Screen Protectors are available. I hate drawing on glass.
I had the 9 and could not stand the battery life. Very happy trading it in and getting the 1400 version. Screen is a huge upgrade
i love your take and review i wished you would have kept chiming in more about why the new surface line does not have premier pro on it. and why is the surface pro like the show stopper
Great video. I see you are using a screen protector. Is that for reflexes? Can you tell me what protector is? Thanks.
Thx for a review!
Yup, that`s a game changer right there.
I've had two surface laptops and one surface pro, finish always chips. I would always get the silver
thank you for the review. Do you use painter at all? and if so have you tried it on the surface pro 11? I'm tempted to make the jump but was concerned about emulation.
Would be nice to see a comparison between this and the minisforum tablet
Say what you say but MS makes top tier hardware. What a beautiful device 😍
Do you know if it can run AutoCAD? Really need a tablet for sketching and architectural work, and a mobile CAD editor/viewer if I'm away from my PC. Thanks! Great review!
@11:55 for drawing review.
you have to try the new huawei matepad 11.5, they say it's a great tablet for drawing
The arm battle begins
Pens alternatives? How compares with iPad M4?
I just got the surface and I wanted to let my daughters use it for drawing. What drawing apps and tutorials would you recommend ?
Have you by any chance tested ZBrush on this model? I'm curious if it could be used for sculpting to a reasonable extent without lagging?
400$ for a Cover & a KEYBOARD?!!
I've been waiting for this review since launch. As an Adobe pirate, I rely on using Windows, so this tablet seems like a fantastic choice - aside from the average pen. I wonder whether firmware updates could offer pen improvements?
As there's no Android version of Fresco, this is pretty much the only option for me and I'm glad that you found it to be a positive experience.
My only remaining question would be, is the more expensive X Elite worth it? I'm not fussed about OLED, but I wonder whether there's a tangible drawing performance difference between the Plus and Elite models?
In the experimental versions of Blender there is already an ARM64 version for testing.
I wanted to buy this, however price for the device (oled only comes with the x version) as well as price for keyboard is just absurd.
our guy Microsoft took a decade to finally push Surface brand into "finally usable" arc
I've been using a surface for years. It's usable.
I've been using my Surface Book 2 since 2018 and it's more usable than any mac or other windows oem machine I can think of
@@israelramirez0202 Literally any modern gaming laptop with decent specs is more usable than any surface. I have both, and I only give the surface 8 work it can handle like drawing. Everything that demands anything is done on the desktop tower
If only this chip were released in 2019 had the Surface Neo been saved ;--;
I always feel like I'm in the movie Speed when I use those pens - gotta keep that pen above a certain speed.
haha, I like that analogy.
I loved the video, excellent analysis. I have a question. I want to replace my old laptop and was wondering if Unity, Godot, and 3D Coat work well on the Surface Pro 11. I'd like to confirm before spending money.
Game dev here, nogo on unity and I'm pretty sure I've seen others say godot doesn't work. Didn't try 3d coat.
If you are also an artist I recommend going with the hp 360 spectre. The oled is great, it has color correct profiles, 4050 Dgpu and a good enough processor. If you don't need the drawing aspect then you really wanna just get the highest specs you can afford.
@@PixogenPixelsDo you have any recommendations for someone who wants to do drawing on the go and run a program like Godot?
@@getkawedbythecrow2524a 2in1 that’s decent needs a DGPU that puts them all around 1700 usd. You could get a budget laptop and a plain drawing tablet for 70 bucks or get a galaxy tablet for 200-400 and a cheaper laptop and then use a program called super display. It works great and you could technically get away with a less color accurate laptop. Gaming laptops are notoriously bad with display colors.
Will be waiting for that "puppet deal" 😎😎😎👍👍👍
Im still wating for thr go version of this
Can't wait for it.
A tiny Surface Go & Surface Laptop Go with Arm processor that can last very long sounds like a very portable dream.
A full PC that can take anywhere & holds a charge.
gonna wait on it a little. I use galaxy book 4 360 atm literally just bought it. I'll wait till everything is optimized for this new chip then trade in and get a new 360 edge model whenever that may come out.
Hey! I was close to buy rhe Book 4 360, but people complaining about the display cracking kind made me back up. How it's yours doing?
@@Noizahorikku my display is doing just fine. Is there anymore context as to how the cracking happened? I haven't pushed my comp to its limits. plus I got a nice deal for the best buy warranty for both hardware and software issues.
I'll say this tho, I legit only bought it for the 360 feature for drawing, comes with Samsung's great pen and I have other samsung devices to work hand n hand with it. If you see a more affordable 2 in 1 with the same specs and whatnot, keep the options open. Books like ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED, Lenovo Yoga 9i 2 in 1, and my favourite looking 2 in 1 (design wise) is the surface laptop studio 2 that thing is perfectly designed but too dang expensive lol.
So I would just keep your options on Samsung, Lenovo, and Asus for now and look around more from other recommenders.
@kickbeez642 Thanks a lot for your reply. Some people have been posting pics showing cracks on their displays and speculating that it could be the heat when they closed the laptop and the display being too thin. I found no official news or reference regarding this, but it made me hesitate. I was looking forward to build up my Samsung ecosystem if the drawing experience was good, and it seems to be the case.
@@Noizahorikku no problem. yea, it's always good to be cautious before spending that much money.
Hi Brad love ya vids bro!! If possible I would love to see your comparison and thoughts between Wacoms Movink and the Ipad pro
Are there any pen alternatives that can be used with the Surface Pro?
I thin N-trig or something is the tech they use? All of those shouuuuuld work.
Would love a comparison between the surface pro and the Asus version coming out.
Yeah, the new Pro Art Surface thing looks good, going to try and get my hands on one.
I want a Muppet review ASAP!!
Definitely switching from my iPad Pro to this 👌🏽
iPad Pro remains a much superior tablet. This is more a laptop replacement.
Nice productivity device though
@@Isengardtom yeah I had a surface pro 4. Switched to the iPad Pro for 5 years in hopes it’d get better programs like blender and godot. Turns out they’ll never come because of apples dumb App Store guidelines, even though it’s ridiculously capable now. So yeah, got sick of it being held back
I'd be curious to see how it performs with programming, it'll probably handle cross platform stuff but how will it handle windows specific C# libs and such
We want a review of both devices of asus proart series p16 and the other model that comes with stylus and foldable tablet mode
With Arm, the power draw is so low, you can happily get the "plugged in" performance, while unplugged, for more hours of battery life.
Did you test compatability??? You only need "Basic" HID (human input device) drivers to use a tablet.
Basic usb devices work fine
Questions: does it have a fan? I want a Windows based alternative to MacBook Air that can be used for light video editing and family usage (heavy browsing, etc)
Yes it does. But it only becomes noticeable with heavy use and isn’t very loud
The whole point of the Surface vs the Ipad was it was a PC that could run all those windows apps natively... but now its advantages are also rans. I just don't see a point in the switch to arm for tablets.
Battery life and heat. Two biggest problems with the surface line. Also even under emulation, the performance difference between this and the surface pro 10 is minimal while being more efficient
And I’d argue the advantage of the surface pro over the iPad is that it runs desktop level programs period. Which the surface does
@@christianr.5868 processing isn't bad, graphics aren't all that great, and I doubt you will be able to use an eGPU with an arm based machine. I could be wrong though but something tells me the drivers would be emulated.
@@digitalalchemy6414 no you’re right drivers aren’t available yet for an egpu. But it’s only a matter of time for that
that depends on the apps... no doubt windows has more apps that other platforms. But in my case I use the affinity suite for photos, desktop publishing, etc. and they are equivalent across windows/mac/ipad. games aren't going to be a strong suit on this... the performance isn't there on the surface... so apps taht are available on the ipad especially a comparable M4 pro are going to run circles around the surface. I could run games on an egpu on older surface but im guessing thats going to have issues on Arm with nvidia drivers and pciexpress support. I develop and all my dev tools are windows.. so I need a windows box for that... but id rather run it native than emulated, im a purist when im testing code I want as little 'wierdness' in between what im writing and the target as I can. That said... Playgrounds on the ipad is a nice dev environment with fast iteration of changes. I don't use xcode on the mac anymore, its just easier to code directly on the ipad But like anything specialty software you use is going to be a dealbreaker for some on this platform ro that platform.
Honest recommendation - iPad Pro with M4 or Surface Pro?
Ipad is an amazing tablet, not a great pc outside of basic basic text stuff. Surface is heavier and does it all but windows ui sucks for tablets and it's not really setup for tablets.
Man if Microsoft wanted to grab the creative market, they should bundle the Surface Pro with 1 year Clip Studio Paint Pro/EX
This is the first time I watch blender on snapdragon x 😲
I just bought their 32 gig version because blender 4.3 alpha has windows ARM64 support and brushes asset library! LFG!!!!!!!!!
Apple still doesn’t have a touchscreen laptop
Hey, I'm new to the channel and I have a weird question. Why don't you color back to front?
Hi Brad what's your Daily Driver? I'm thinking of the getting the Huion 19.
He prefers to use an iPad for drawing, you can check his website for a comparison of the different pen displays he's used.
I'm an iPad guy, but the Huion 19 is really nice.
that cookie monster was so good
I'll never get back to any Surface model after using the Surface Book 2, jfc. Windows updates made the pen unusable, you couldn't draw diagonal lines with it
So not all touching screen laptops made for drawing have the option to use external drawings tablets?
I'm using a screenless wacom tablet and I would like to have a opinion to switch between drawing on my tablet ant in the laptop screen.
If you are happy using your non screen wacom I think they are better as you get a clearer view of your drawing from the screen.. I know a car designer who draws in 3d with nurbs on a wacom tablet but looking up at a big screen and his workflow is lightning fast, he tried on screen tech but found it got in the way.
HI!
I've been putting off buying a Surface or iPad type device for years because no one fully satisfies what I would like to do.
Essentially digital painting, a little Blender at an amateur level and complete PC programs for photo editing (even Nikon ones).
Have you made any videos where you discuss the combined use of Mac Mini and iPad Pro? Because this would be one of the solutions within Apple.
For the surface however... do you think it needs a protective film?
And what would be the best pens with the Microsoft protocol to use?
Thank you very much and congratulations for the videos you produce!!
For Apple, you can go with Mac Mini plus a digital tablet (the ones that are 22+ size) so you actually use the raw power of ... let say m1 (or better) with a display where you can draw on.
For Windows (what I have): is just a 10 dollar cheap tablet that is to be represented on a full monitor (24') and well the cpu.
I don't waste money on the last cintiq big monitor for drawing because I prefer a monitor (normal for pc) with good colors and a cheap tablet (with out screen) for saving money.
I am a Game Artist and spent many many 100s of dollars on these kinds of things. There's no perfect device. If you want all in one for art and power... you gotta get a beefy 2-1 like the spectre x360 with a 4050. But it's 16 inches and fairly large. It draws as good as a surface which is worse than galaxy tab/ipad. But even buying the best apps for ipad theres no really good work flow for 3D. It's all kinda wonky.... streaming ipad to pc is also a pain and works much worse than streaming a galaxy tab to use as a second pc screen for art.
For pens I've tried em all. I like the meta pen or RENAISSER pen. They all basically work the same and they are all a step below the tablets from samsung/ipad.
Will you review the Huawei matepad 11.5"s and the new Gopaint drawing app pls ? I really need an artist review before buying it !
Also which operating system is better for artists who are taking drawing as a hobby and don't wanna spend a lot of money , android or windows ?
Doesn’t adobe work on the M processor MacBook devices? Those are ARM processors as well aren’t they? I don’t understand why they don’t work for the Snapdragon Elite chips
They’re not ported and optimized yet
Normally a big fan of the Surface Pro but this year I like the Asus PZ13 better in this form factor. Comes with the keyboard and is a really elegantly designed thing. Will be interesting to see if that picks up traction
Is it repairable?
@@trowawayacc don't know. It's the first I've seen of it and there aren't many reviews on it yet
I am waiting for a review on Huawei mate pad 13.2 😊
Did you do anything with windows office? How does outlook, word, excel ppt run on it?
All that stuff works really well apparently
Please do review for Huawei GoPaint app next!