"I am Alpharius, this is a lie." - Alpharius pretending to be Omegon pretending to be Alpharius to honor his brother Alpharius who was actually Omegon pretending to be Alpharius
@@abridgedbog7753 Rogal Dorn after the battle of pluto leans over to a Huscarl and whispers, "I am Alpharius." He then keeps walking like nothing happened.
The thing about the Alpha Legion is that when Bricky said 'we think' they're Chaos, he's not kidding. They're destabilisation specialists, and Chaos kinda SHOULD HAVE WON by now. There's a school of thought that says the Alpha Legion infiltrated Chaos itself, and are helping preserve the Imperium by very carefully messing with Chaos' plans.
I could have sworn he mentioned this in the video but I guess I was wrong. But yeah I remember someone saying something that there's a possibility that the legion is split between being loyal to the emperor and to chaos at the same time which in a funny way still makes what you said line up lmao.
Alpha legion play the smartest, and least "fair" of all the legions. a squad of 10 once took down an entire (HEAVILY populated and industrialized) star system.... they hijacked a bunch of random farm workers, injected them with a custom made fungus, and let them go. no ransom, no nothing. in a manner of months, the fungus has spread into the water supply and completely WIPED OUT the agri-world that supplied the other worlds in the system. by the end of the year food riots, governmental collapse, and civil war (financed and supported by the alpha legion) was system wide and the legion itself NEVER FIRED A SHOT.
Funny thing about Lorgar: He's still alive, but hasn't been seen since the Horus Heresy because Corvus Corax has been waiting outside his front door to kill him for 10,000 years
The best way I've seen someone describe the Alpha Legion is that one part is loyal, another part is traitor, another is loyal but in reality they are spies for Chaos, another is traitor but in reality a spy for the Imperium, another part doesn't know who fights for so they attack everyone, another is a spying on their own legion and another who in reality isn't fighting for everyone.
Yeah Konrad's story is really sad. For example he has a gift that allows him to see the future but his brothers just shrugged it off when he tries to warn them because the feel uncomfortable around him.
That, and he also became the Night Haunter to liberate his people in a twisted way. He committed all those atrocities against the crime lords and gang leaders to scare everyone into submission and rid Nostramo of violence. But once he left, crime picked back up, and his legion was repopulated by the worst scum of humanity. He even allowed himself to be killed once he realized he had turned into the very thing he sought to destroy.
Man I love the fact that the Alpha legion druged a world that had a ton of psychers with a hallucinating gas that made all the psychers in the world to have the same dream in which rains snakes, but then the collective consciousness of the sleeping psychers materialized the snakes into reality and killed like half of the world population in a day.
I love the Blood Angels, because their primarch was the closest thing they had (besides Vulcan of course) to a truly good Primarch, who looked at their marines - outcasts that were shunned by the rest of the imperium because of how brutal they were on the battlefield, - and knelt before them himself, because he felt that he was the one who needed to prove his worth to these warriors who bled for a thankless galaxy. And when he died, they lost the ONE person in the world who truly cared for them and saw them as more than monsters, and they fucking slaughtered every heretic and demon in their way while under the effects of the Black Rage, pushing a large portion of the invading heretic faction during the Horus Heresy back. I would HIGHLY recommend either MajorKill's video on the Blood Angels/Sanguinius, or Oculus Imperia's video on the Blood Angel's history. They're both fantastic. For Sanguinius.
Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels and Leman Russ of the Space Wolves actually had a rivalry during the great crusade. It culminated in them having a fist fight with each other which lasted more than 24 hours. Eventually Jonson knocked Leman out with a sucker punch because Leman Russ started laughing at how stupid it was that they were fighting each other. Despite this rivalry they both deeply respected each other and their legions. Lion El'Jonson actually discovered the Wolfen Curse (space wolves turning into werewolves) that plagued Leman's legion, but out of respect for Leman he kept it secret and never told anyone else.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames When Dark Angels and Space Wolves meet, each group chooses a champion, then the two champions re-enact the duel of their Primarchs by beating the crap out of each other for fun (and honour, don't forget the honour)
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT! I love the Iron warriors so much. Something Bricky didn't really expand on about them is even though they're a "traitor legion" they aren't really followers of chaos, more like an employee that hates their boss/company and left for a better job. As he mentioned, instead of worshipping the dark gods, they essentially use them as a tool. They dislike chaos enough that, when demonic mutations begin on a marine, they amputate the mutation and replace it with machinery. At the current point in time they could be considered one of the most powerful of the traitor legions, as they are one of the most unified traitor legions left.
It's my belief that Perturabo's goal is to destroy the four chaos Gods, or at least to shatter them and imprison or destroy as many fragments as possible.
Yep I was always Orkz fanboy but if there is a Space Marine Legion I love it is Iron Warriors, tough I love that siege extreme industrial vibe of " we need more ammo, turn another planet to toxic dump"
Love the reaction and the Alpha Legion choice. A couple of notes on the Alpha Legion. The first as you probably noticed is that their allegiance is up in the air. This is largely due to the fact that the one word descriptor of the AL probably should have been “secrets” or “lies”. No one is sure what their long term goal is, partly due to their strongly decentralized nature and their use of sleeper cells. This ties into another aspect of the Alpha Legion which is duty. The Alpha Legion fully understood its role in the Imperium and accepted their duty above all else. When the heresy happened there were so many different cells working on different objectives that they just kept doing them whether their goals were pro or anti Imperium, without new orders they will simply keep doing their job. That also ties into the “I am Alpharius” thing. They are all Alpharius because their individual identity if meaningless in the grand scheme of things, they are all Alpharius because they are all working toward the same goal. Finally, surprisingly, they’re one of the more humanitarian legions in that they work to save civilians and extract their human operatives where ever possible without ruining the mission. It was great to see more 40K content on here and I love all your videos so keep it up.
"Laugh when you are killing, for it is only right that an artist find joy in their chosen craft... even if that is war" -Jaghatai Khan, primarch of the White Scars.
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The Space Wolves are noted for having the oldest living (dreadnaught entombed) space marine in 40k. Bjorn the Felhanded, he stood at the side of Leman Russ during the Great Crusade and took the helm of leadership when Leman disappeared into the Warp. This man is so venerated by those who see him, he was able to convince the Inquisition to stand down from unjustly persecuting the Wolves after the First War of Armageddon.
Typhus is technically supposed to be Mortarion's second-in-command but the two of them absolutely DESPISE each other. Mortarion hates Typhus because he was directly responsible for the Death Guard's fall to Nurgle and Typhus hates Mortarion because he rejected Nurgle's gifts at first.
The Night lords also became my favorite legion, mostly cause of Conrad's favorite son jago sevetar he brought up a good point that Conrad used fear to make there world compliant but never put any judicial system in place to keep it that way, there's so many night lords that are some interesting an engaging character's.
Nighthaunter was the judicial system... and while he remained there it worked. He was born and raised on lawless world so it is not surprising that founding a judicial system did not occur to him. But the criticism that he should have put the system in place to keep it running is valid, he knew he was gonna die eventually. Honestly, I would not be surprised if he did not come up with something just to have an excuse to exterminate the place.
the Space Wolves are also known to be very protective of the Imperium's people similar to the Salamanders, they even went to war with the Inquisition when the Inquisition wanted to exterminate an entire Imperial Guard regiment for having witnessed demons. The Space Wolves Chapter Master Logan Grimnar basically said no we made sure these guardsmen aren't corrupted, they are fine, and the Inquisition was like we don't care we're going to kill them anyways. followed by the space wolves using their own ships to protect the guardsmen from the inquisition.
There's a running joke about Rogal Dorn and his fortifying habit. If he made some waffles, it will took you forever to cut a tiny piece of it, as it would be so heavily fortified.
A shaker cup is typically an exercise cup with a metal wire sphere inside that is meant for making a drink with something like protein powder, a protein shake. The wire metal sphere inside stirs up the stuff as you shake it around.
Sanguinius, even Horus said he would not like to fight him in anger, Sanguinius lost not because he was outmatched, but because he was exhausted from 3 days of constant fighting, from single-handedly holding one of the gates of the Palace. The Thousand Sons Traitor only because Russ didn't check who gave him the Kill command. 'Everything I do from this point I do for the Imperium' Alpharius? moments before his 'Fall'
@@thomash341 true, but he didn't check with Daddy, surly the command to wipe out a legion should only come from the head guy and not the No 2, Russ hated Magnus and this gave him an excuse.
@@stevencavanagh7990 He was more than number two though. The emperor removed himself from the crusade and left matters of war to Horus. If Leman had to double check with the emperor, then Horus never would’ve been Warmaster to begin with. Granted, I’m sure Leman to some degree took the situation as a chance to roll Magnus but I don’t think Leman would’ve outright killed him unless he got the green light which he did in this case.
Or... There's a theory that Sanguinius beat Horus but succumbed to the Black Rage and Big E. had to put him down and covered up the truth. But that's just a theory... x)
@@stevencavanagh7990 Honestly, Leman Russ should’ve figured something was up when Magnus didn’t give his men an order to defend prospero, but once Magnus realized Leman was trying to kill all of them, he was totally warranted in everything he did to get revenge in the wolves afterwards, including the destruction of the successor program on Fenris.
So Bricky skips over the 2nd and 11th legions because in the official lore, those primarchs and their legions vanished without a trace and all records of them have disappeared. It basically gives players the freedom to just paint their Marines our own choice of colours and create our own lore for them, and have them still be canon (or at least canon-adjacent).
well, not really. it is more that they have been forgotten on purpose due to whatever horrible thing they did. it is very much said multiple times in a lot of the novels that even the primarchs are not allowed to talk about them. it is just unknown what they did to make them suffer that punishment. theories goes from them having a very bad genetic flaw, too they turned on the emperor himself.
@@sakrefunholy So IIRC the thing about both legions is that everything about why they were forgotten, and what happened to them is not talked about. All data was purged, no one was allowed to speak about it, those who knew either had to die, had to swear on their death to never tell, or had their memories or ability to recall it removed. While this implies some sort of vile act even more horible than what Horus did (and let's not forget: He mortally wounded the Emperor after turning 8 other legions against him!) it might also be a safeguard for said legions, in order to aid them in some sort of long-term plan. It's the ABSENSE of ANY kind of information about them that's so remarkable.
For anyone that doesn't know, the 2nd and 11th legions are referred to as "the forgotten and the purged" it is known only that the missing primarchs and their Legions are listed as having been "deleted from Imperial records.". Also, real talk: Roboute Guilliman is the most English, Englishman in a universe full of Englishmen. :P
wrong. Guilliman is meant to evoke the proverbial "last of the romans". Dorn is the one modeled to be the quintessential english gentleman: stoic to a fault, zero sense of humor, honorable beyond reproach
I'm not sure you heard it during the Alpha Legion Part, but No One actually knows whether they're actually Loyalists or Traitors. Basically, the Twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon were separated, one raised by the Emperor (theory is that one of these two was the first Primarch that the Emperor met, and personally raised.) while the other twin was the last Primarch found. and when the Horus Heresy started, They both understood that Chaos was bad and that they had to take it down for the Emperor, so they did it in the way they do things, infiltration. They joined the Traitors. the issue afterwards was then what their goal was. one believed that Chaos had to win the Heresy, reasoning that Chaos would basically burn themselves out because that twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to destroy Chaos, while the other twin wanted to simply just keep sabotaging the Traitors and Chaos because that other twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to free Humanity from Chaos. but during the Heresy, one of the twins died, supposedly the one named Alpharius, but it could have also been Omegon pretending to be Alpharius, or it could have been neither. None of the other Primarchs even knew that they were Twins! they only knew that the Primarch of the Alpha Legion was named Alpharius. and none of this is 100% confirmed. so no one knows who's alive, which twin is which, and what''s their ultimate goal! who knows!? not even Alpha Legion knows.
@@steelbear2063 There are loyalist Alpha Legion in lore, like one who works for Inquisitor Eisenhorn in Bequin series. Great thing about 20th legion is that you can use them as traitors or loyalista in table top.
I don't remember if it's actually canon or just a theory but supposedly Alpha Legion is split into two factions. One is loyalist and helps The Empire where they can but in a way that they usually still seem traitor. The other faction is actually traitor. This does make sense as during Horus Heresy most of them, lead by Alpharius, were truly traitor. Smaller part of them, led by Omegon, went kinda rogue and sneakily sabotaged traitor efforts were they could..
Vulkan and Konrad are two of the most interesting Primarchs, literally two sides of the same coin. Konrad saw the Emperor as a liar, a coward unwilling to face the consequences and machinations of his crusade to unify humanity, Vulkan knew the Emperor's dream could not last as a lie but was necessary at the time to keep humanity safe. Needless to say when they met for the last time it was.... a mess. Loyalist: Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Iron Hands, Dark Angels???, Ultramarines, White Scars, Raven Guard, Salamanders Heretics: Emperor's Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Black Legion, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion???, The 2nd and 11th legion exist for people to make their own custom chapters of space marine, and are thus never named. "Touching Grass" is a euphemism for "go outside and interact with actual real people".
Oh it's Bricky. I'm a mod for him and their play group on the Dice Check channel. Always good to see one of the crew's work being reacted to. Looking forward to future reactions.
Space wolves are kinda cool with regular people same as Salamanders. They even got involved in war with Inquisition, truing to defend guardsmen when Inquisition tried to kill all of the guardsmen who witnessed demon invasion. p.s. still hope for Helsreach and Last Church lol
To show you how dedicated Rogul Dorn was, him, Jaghatai Kahn and Sanguinis were the only three primarchs defending Holy Terra (Earth) from horus and his legions
Fabius Bile is a Emperor's Children apothecary, he invented something called the Daemonculaba, i wouldn't recommend looking that up unless you wanna lose sleep from the nightmares
Loved your reaction! And she put it so accurately with the Salamanders: "While they are loyalist, they realize that the Imperium is nothing without its people." 47:29. Salamanders definitely make my top loyalist legion. And my other two are the Night Lords and Emperor's Children cuz I'm a filthy heretic lol. Love everything about the Night Lords, their primarch, their aesthetic, their grimdark context, and I'm a Slaneesh adept so of course I'm siding with Fulgrim
I too am a Nightlord boi. Just gotta love the Slav gangster horror worshippers. *Hardbass and Kvass making intensifies * Just wish I had the money for an army. But ya know. Crack is cheaper and they would never let me officialy play them at tournaments since I'd totaly give them all Adidas branding and add small jars of compot to their bases.
At heart I'm a Harlequin fan because well, I think they're fun. Murderous space elf performers. But if I had to pick legions it would have to the Alpha Legion and the Blood Angels.
@@ashadowperson9905 I've read up a bit on harlequin lore since I made this comment, and I've also grown to love them. There's something so poetic about the myriad of masques whose entire purpose is to reenact the Fall of the Aeldari, and convey the Laughing God's insanity, unfathomable trickery, and ever-changing emotions through their performances in bloody war
So apparently the 2nd and 11th legions were meant to be the player made "do whatever you want" legions, and as the lines progressed, the lore changed to those Primarchs and legions did something that has never been explained that was so awful they were stricken from all records (hence Bricky not saying anything/static). I always find it interesting when you can see the tree rings of canon changes.
I'd love for them to watch and react to Helsreach!! Of course it would have to be over a couple of episodes due to how long it is. But everyone who gets into the 40k universe should watch this.
It should be noted for most of the Traitors legions whose home worlds have been blown up it was the Lion and the Dark Angels who did the planet destroying except for the Thousand sons(the space wolves did it) and the Night Lords(the night lords blew there own planet up) but the others where the Dark Angels and rhe lion going a a Vengemce tour.
Perturabo of the Iron Warriors was the ultimate genius, he invented things the Imperium cannot create in the modern timeline, he even wrote the imperium's manual on sieging, his legion never refused a battle and never received any praise for it, nor wanted any. imperial fist fanboys often make jokes about the iron warriors but it should be noted during the heresy the iron warriors had successfully besieged the fortress of Terra shortly before the Emperor killed Horus. Perturabo also humiliated Rogal Dorn at a battle named "the iron cage" which mentally broke Rogal Dorn into extreme depression.
He left out the fact that that Space Wolves like the Blood Angels have a curse that transforms them more and more into Werewolves basically, with some able to stave it off more than others. When they succumb to the curse they are kept in the basement of their base to be used as Shock troops and mounts. But for more indepth info I still recommend you react to Weshammer. He has shorts and longer videos that have filled in a lot of my blanks as far as Lore. Please consider it.
For the Thousand Sons every single one of them was a psyker which even a single one is rare so something was going on. Before Magnus took over they were almost extinct because their bodies were becoming mutated beasts. It is believed that Magnus traded an eye to save his legion from any more mutations. After the Emperor banned psykers they “tried” to follow it, but Magnus used it to try to warn the Emperor of the Heresy about to happen but instead broke the secret warp portal the Emperor was working on. The emperor demanded for Magnus to be arrested and brought to him to answear for his actions. However, Horus was now corrupted but others didn’t know yet so instead of telling the Space Wolves to arrest Magnus he told them that the Emperor wanted them wiped out which they were all to happy to do. As per the dust in their armor, after they escaped into the warp to get away from the wolves the “flesh change” happened again and they started to uncontrollably mutate once more. Ahriman who was one of the legions best psykers decided to attempt a spell that would stop them from any more mutation. As the spell went there was a giant lightning storm that struck the marines welding their armor shut and turning all but the strongest into dust. The vast majority of the legion are nothing more than automatons with no personality or conscientiousness and only do what they are commanded to do with no hint of who they once were. Ahriman was banished by Magnus for this, but in all dark truth his spell worked since they no longer mutated, it’s kinda like that whole thing of making a wish with a genie where they give you exactly what you wished for but twisted the end result.
I am Alpharius. YOU are Alpharius. WE are Alpharius. We are all lying, while telling the truth, sprinkled with omission and half-truths. Signed, Alpharius
Fun fact the Raven Guard are actually pretty nice people like the Salamanders. Their primarch Corvas Corax came from a world that he helped liberate from horrible oppressive slavery and loved making tyrannical crap hole worlds be overthrown and made better imperial worlds. As long as they serve the emperor then the Ravenguard are more then happy to help rebellions against bad planetary governors to replace them with worthwhile ones, after all it makes the empire better in the end and means no actual traitorous rebellion down the line.
He's not lying when Gilliman really wants to die. He is so depressed that when he finally reunited with his father after seeing what has become of him. His father offered no kind of comfort he just referred to him as the 13th has returned. And in his mind he believes that the emperor does not care one iota about him. To some extent that is true but the emperor does on some level does care about his sons. The reason why he has received no comfort is because the emperor's mind is completely shattered. And Gilliman misinterpreted what happened. But it's an understatement that he is very very depressed and is very trying to hold this empire together. He is trying so hard to get it back on track and it is difficult.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah well imagine you have been fighting a war for thousands of years to try to reunify the Galaxy. To create a safe space for Humanity to thrive to rebuild the Golden Age of humanity. You trying to get people to build to get supply lines going and trying to get the. Adeptus mechanic is to invent something and know how something works instead of just keeping replicating things. And don't know how they work you have to understand the great crusade was coming to an end and things were getting back on track. Things were not that bad there were no religious zealots the emperor kept telling people to don't worship him as a god. They were actually normal people sure there were a few slaves here and there but. It wasn't very bad The Hive cities were actually making a comeback and turning into actual regular cities. And actually paying the citizens things were looking up the Eldar were kept at Bay. There were no necrons no tyranids the orcs were pounded almost to Oblivion things were going good. And it was only going to get better since the emperor was going to give Humanity The ultimate gift. Access to the web way now what's special about this is they would no longer have to use the warp for travel. No longer would they be going through the warp to feed the chaos gods they would. starve to death and they would eventually disappear. And citizens were going to be moved into the web way. And it speculated that the emperor plan to get rid of the Dark Eldar completely eradicating them. And turning the dark city of the Eldar into a paradise and it's very possible he could have done it. The plan was to have Magnus sit The Golden throne and power the web way. That would be his ultimate sacrifice the ban on psykers would have been removed and Magnus could sit on The Golden throne. And then the emperor would have made one last campaign against. The Dark Eldar settle it with humans and the chaos Gods would have been starved to death over a course of a few millennia. Eventually the Space Marines would have been decommissioned possibly killed like the thunder warriors or. Be redistributed as some kind of politicians probably because that was the idea Gilliman had. For his legion he wanted his legion to be educated because. He wanted the Space Marines after all the fighting was done to be politicians statesman leaders. Future governors of planets he wanted them to be educated and sophisticated not just these battle-hardened warriors. Because eventually The crusade was going to be over and things were just going to be looking up. There was no religion of the imperium things were looking good. And then Horus had to lose his mind and start the heresy. And then everything after that fell into. Poop Hive cities became worse Imperial colonies became worse the Imperial cult was established the age of apostasy started. Religion started to be cracked down upon if you didn't believe in the emperor you were shot on sight and this is not what gilliman wanted this is not what he fought for. He did not fight for a mankind to be superstitious zealots and he hates every single. One of these zealots he hates these people he absolutely wants to kill them. But he knows he can't do that if it was any other son of the emperor if it was lion el Johnson everyone would be dead.. The highlords would be dead he would go crusading against all these. Inquisition freaks he would dismantle the Imperial religion. But Gilman knows he can't undo all this damage by just killing everyone he has to do it over time and it's weighing heavily on his mind. If it was any other son any other son of the emperor people would be dead people would be dying left and right. They even tried to betray gilliman and have him examined by inquisitors to see if he was the son of the emperor that's how insane this has gotten right there in front of you a son of the emperor has returned but they don't want to believe it because they want to hold on to power.
An Interesting fact about the Space Wolves is that they were also kind of the Punishers of the Emperor when they attacked the Thousand Sons they did so on commabd of the Big E himself and the lore heavly implied they are the reason there is no 2nd and 11th Legion
I think if I had to pick three favourites on each side, it would be Salamanders, Blood Angels and Raven Guard for the loyalists and the Night Lords, Death Guard and Thousand Sons for the traitors.
The intro brick did was truly hilarious, go shaker cup. Incredible video as always. Keep being awesome. Bethany is a super heratic, because bethany is truly super.
Okay if you were wondering why Ricky kind of glitched on the second Legion is simply put there is no second Legion the emperor himself has deleted any record of that Primarch and that Legion we don't know why we don't even know their name so there considered a mystery even amongst the most adapt member of the Inquisition. This is also done to the 11th Legion as well
I'll probably have to rewatch this a few more times to get a sense of the Primarchs and their legions, but I'm happy you had time to look at this for us.
The blood angels are definitely my favorite founding chapter, there's something very interesting about the duality of their nobility and beauty against the darkness in their literal blood. And Sanguinius is one of the few truly good primarchs, who wanted simply what was best for his sons and the people of Baal.
I like the Night lords (the blokes that skin people and throw them out the airlock) because they actually were the most effective of the legions in the sense of they killed the least people and left everything intact, by killing a thousand in the most gruesome way they saved the millions that surrendered without a fight.Its also for the same reason that I enjoyed the Jaquin Pheonix Joker movie they all tragic characters that had zero chances of becoming anything but monsters and its fascinating to watch the slow changes unfolding.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah there was a dracula movie awhile back where Vlad the impaler makes pretty much the same argument that if he hadn't killed the people he had in the horrible way he had they would've fought back and thousands would have died instead.
Yesssss, glad to see you guys found it! Edit after finishing watching this: Bricky's transitions crack me up. So random. I need to see if I can find the sources to a lot of the audio.
Lmao I know almost every one: 1: Monty python and the holy grail 2: I think that’s Hank’s actor from Breaking Bad doing the one piece meme for a video 3:??? It sounds similar to that scene in back to the future, but I don’t think that’s what it’s from 4: ??? I just looked it up and it’s a uwui-ified version of a famous Nietzsche quote. Didn’t know this one. 5:SONIC BOOM, a technically for kids sonic cartoon that has so many funny adult jokes 6: a video by Markiplier just called “Woof,” surprisingly one of his most viewed videos 7: Donald Trump, of course 8:??? 9: ??? I think this is SpongeBob but idk 10:??? 11: This one sounded so familiar so I forgive myself for looking it up, it’s The Hunt For Red October, great movie 12:??? 13: Monty python, Life of Brian, GREAT MOVIE and one of my favorite scenes 14: Uh oh stinky meme 15:??? 16: Game grumps 17: Just a meme video 18: ??? 19: never seen but I’m pretty confident that its Avatar 20: Meet the spy, tf2 I actually know less than I thought, but still I spend way too much time on the internet, probably just like bricky lmao.
Something that Bricky didn't have time to go into because of the video format is that pretty much all of the heretic legions (maybe except alpha legion) are very sympathetic up to a point (It is 40k after all, there are no good guys, ehh salamanders are closest in marines). Anyway, they're sympathetic in that most of the reasons they fell are very human failings that could have been overcome if the Emperor had actually been a good dad and paid attention to his sons more instead of treating them like tools. Basically, the vast majority of this is the emperor's fault.
I'm not sure if others mentioned this, but Legions 2 & 11 are glossed over in this video because lorewise they are expunged from the records completely. There are some cagey references in the lore to them having been purged before the Horus Heresy even occured, their Primarchs having been executed, and their surviving marines having been spread out across the other Legions (possibly explaining why the Ultramarines had so goddamn many marines sorta out of the blue.). The reason why those two are forgotten while the later heretics are remembered is mainly because it was possible to hide the treason of the 2nd and 11th, but once half the Imperium revolted and turned to Chaos, that was a completely different matter. There's no hiding that. Now, the REAL explanation for why the 2nd and 11th legions are unknown is because Games Workshop simply kept the spots open so that players could simply make up their own primarchs and legions to use and play with, because the hobby used to be more free-form. On another note, the touching grass thing is just a meme from Twitter to tell someone to get off the internet and go do something in real life. So I think Bricky was just saying he'd been offline for a while doing RL shit, hence the shirt change halfway through the video.
Ah, what a fun reaction! Im glad someone else likes Alpha Legion too! Salamanders are one of my big faves, Thousand Sons are very neat too bc I really like Tzeentch haah! Also... for games in need new additions.. maybe you could react to Sly Cooper stuff, especially the first three games! Its been years since the fourth game and Im getting desperate :"D
So, a couple quick explanations (some of which may be stuff you already picked up on, and I apologize in advance): 1) The phrase "touching grass" is an internet culture slang term for going outside, essentially unplugging for a bit. Totally understandable not to get that, as you guys probably "touch grass" a lot more than most of us on YT. 2) The reason for the reference to the 2nd and 11th legions and immediately hopping into the next legion is because, canonically, all knowledge of those legions specifically has been expunged from *every record.* Even the people who "know" don't really know in a weird kinda way. 3) Bricky started off with "Allegiance:" And would state whether they were loyal/loyalist (still with the Imperium) or traitor/heretic (now running with Chaos). Which makes the Alpha Legion even *more* interesting because, while they're heretics at face value, *no one knows* if the Alpha Legion are actually traitors or if they're playing the long con and trying to sabotage Chaos from the inside, sleeper style. People have debated that bit of lore HEAVILY. Finally, I gotta say, my likes in the legions are remarkably similar to Bethany's. The Alpha Legion's intrigue is awesome and makes you think, the Salamanders are the closest you get to "good guys" in the world of space marines, and the Space Wolves aesthetic is just plain cool!
the Blood Angels are the first space marines that i know when i watched a gameplay of Dawn of War 3. The Blood Angels, Salmanders and the Space Wolves are my favourite space marines
Those are Blood Ravens from the games. Blood Ravens were specifically made for Relic to have their own chapter to do what they wished with. Canonically, the Blood Ravens are completely unrelated to the Blood Angels, the only similarities are the name and similar colors.
Can never express how much I love the Salamanders as a Imperium Legion. They are by far what I personally believe to be THE perfect embodiment of humanity in 40K. In lore it's pretty safely clear and stated that Horus or even Sanguinius were the Emperors favorite sons, but I believe Vulkan is the perfect cut picture of what the Emperor wants his Primarchs and Humanity to be due to his unending trust in him and keeping him close by his side.
I find it funny that sometimes people are fully introduced to warhammer 40k's lore due to the fact how nice and respectful the supposed lore masters like Bricky are to those noobs.
Just to make it clear... What he says about Space Wolves being able to eat their enemies to learn things? Yeah, all space marines actually have that ability.
16:44, technically all space marines can eat their enemies for their memories/knowledge. Not sure why he made sure to point that out for space wolves specifically.
3:43: in case you dont understand what he is saying: the schola progenium literally cements kids into the wall for could be anything they dont like you doing (ie: sleeping in class) and in case you dont understand what's the deal with the 2nd and 11th legion: they got ultra-expunged from all records, their primarchs dead (presumably), their legions slaughtered wholesale (presumably by the wolves) to add a joke of the community that bricky didn't: the salamanders love you, unless you're a xeno, or specifically an eldar alpharius after starting legion wide identity crisis: i am hilarius alpha legion in a nutshell? there's an impostor among us
Always fun to watch a Bricky video. I'm always a fan of you two watching his videos. For gaming, his Frostpunk (and the DLC for Frostpunk), as well as his C&C (command and conquer) videos are wonderful deep-dives into some of his favorite games. Just an idea. :)
Yeah, Bricky did a pretty poor job of selling the Nightlords. There's a lot that makes Konrad Curze to be a tragic villain and overall great character that he skipped for brevity.
The Second and Eleventh legions, and primarchs have had their entire histories purged from the Imperial records, because before the heresy they seemingly did something REALLY bad, and messed up in a really bad way, and were essentially wiped out never to be mentioned again
Just when i was thinking wonder when they'd react to brickys vid Boom new reaction. Love watching ur warhammer reactions cus im not very knowledgeable about this either, fun to watch with u guys
So the Primarchs of the Alpha Legion, Alpharius and Omegon were shown two possible futures during the early days of the heresy. Either "Horus wins, and Chaos triumphs, a terrible prospect, but likely. He will secretly hate himself for the atrocities committed in his name, If he wins, his fury will accelerate, along with his self-loathing. He will immolate the human species inside two or three generations. The self-destructive, redemptive urge in Horus will drive him to exterminate mankind in shame. Even his closest allies will war against him in Final Armageddon. Chaos will burn brighter than ever before, and then will be extinguished. It's greatest victory will flare, and then gutter, as the dying imperium takes it to it's grave. The galaxy will be spared through the sacrifice of the human race." And the alternative: "If the Emperor wins, stagnation will seize the Imperium. It will seek to perpetuate itself, over and again, across thousands of years. But it will decay, slowly and surely. It will decay, and gradually allow Chaos to seep back in and consume it." They replied with "I stand for the Emperor, in all things, I am loyal to him. And I cannot break that bond, He has many great ambitions and the noblest of intentions. But I know that above all else, He is determined to stand firm against the Rise of Chaos. He has always known the truth of it. The overthrow of Chaos is his greatest wish, So what I do. I will do for the Emperor" Before firing upon friendly imperial ships and cutting communication from the imperium. This would imply that they remained loyal by joining chaos, but this was 10,000 years prior to the current timeline and Horus is already dead but the Alpha Legion are the masters of lies and trickery. So who knows what their real intentions are at this point. They could be Heretics or Loyalists in Disguise.
All the primarchs were scattered across the galaxy as babies. The emperor either "never found" the second and 11th, or he found them and had to kill them.
If you like Emperor's Children - you should check "Rylanor's Last Stand" - the story of an Emperor's Children member that despite everything stay loyal and waited millennia to enact his righteous revenge.
This might help clear up which Legion is on which side: Loyalist: - Dark Angels - Imperial Fists - Space Wolves - Salamanders - Ultramarines - Blood Angels - Iron Hands - White Scars - Raven Guard Heretic: - Emperors Children - Iron Warriors - Black Legion - Death Guard - World Eaters - Night Lords - Word Bearers - Thousand Sons - Alpha Legion (maybe)
The skipped legions are originally there for fans to create their own on the table top game. however they then created the codex astartes and the chapters system and along with the expanding lore it became a large hole that needed explained. and so they are the unspoken legions. they are erased from all records and have even been expunged from the memory of the other primarchs. there is a scene somewhere where they are somewhat mentioned but its also said that there is a block and even the face escapes and name escapes memory. those 2 legions are so obscenely masked from existence that to even speak in passing like this would be considered worthy of exterminatus on your entire subsector.
Didn't see anyone post this, but I think the Alpha Legion has a fun little historical connection. The British had a team responsible for countering German intel during WW2, especially during the lead-up to the D-Day landings: The Twenty Committee, named for the Roman numerals XX Or, a "double cross," if you prefer
the 2nd and 11th legion are unkown they are talked about in the lore with books but something bad happened before the heresy and all records are all wiped out. gamesworkshop did this to allow people to sorta create there own legions
To clarify the jokes about the 2nd and 11th legion. They are referred to as the lost legions and there is no complete explanation to what happened to them, only that all records about them are gone. And asking about said legion is a quick way to be deleted from history. Another thing to note is that the World Eaters and Night Lords share much similarities in the lore, Both legions' primarchs were driven insane before being found by the emperor (In Angron's case he had already been implanted with the butcher's nails. And in Konrad Curze case he was constantly given visions about the future from the chaos gods) Thus tragically, the moment the legions found their fathers, they were doomed. Konrad Curze is actually one of the more tragic characters in wh40k because he is the embodiment of the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Starting out with trying to save as many people as possible, only to turn into more and more extreme methods until he would flay thousands to save millions. Oh and if you’re wondering where “I wish to pet this creature” comes from it is from “If the emperor had a text to speech device” by Bruva Alfabusa
That is a series we need to check out for sure. Had it recommended but was told to wait until we get some more knowledge on 40k to get some of the jokes 🙂
the thing about the 2nd and llth legion was that something so bad happened that all information on their primarchs and legion were scrubbed from all records.
You guys should watch Platinum Wow's videos called "Everything you NEED to know about Dragons in Warcraft" and "Wow's STUPIDEST Dragon". They are incredibly entertaining and informative videos that adds a lot of context to the Dragonflight WOW trailer you saw a while back.
It's a shame the actual Table-Top game has passed me by (it's just too complicated now in my opinion), but I do love the lore. My first faction was the Alpha Legion and I always wanted a special rule for them where they would "Sow Discord", giving a chance for an enemy unit to do nothing for turn, i.e. couldn't move or shoot.
"I am Alpharius, this is a lie." - Alpharius pretending to be Omegon pretending to be Alpharius to honor his brother Alpharius who was actually Omegon pretending to be Alpharius
I love the fact that this is canon
@@abridgedbog7753 OR IS IT??!!
@@abridgedbog7753 Rogal Dorn after the battle of pluto leans over to a Huscarl and whispers, "I am Alpharius."
He then keeps walking like nothing happened.
The fact that is in Alpharius’ book always astounds me
Nice try Alpharius
The thing about the Alpha Legion is that when Bricky said 'we think' they're Chaos, he's not kidding. They're destabilisation specialists, and Chaos kinda SHOULD HAVE WON by now. There's a school of thought that says the Alpha Legion infiltrated Chaos itself, and are helping preserve the Imperium by very carefully messing with Chaos' plans.
I could have sworn he mentioned this in the video but I guess I was wrong. But yeah I remember someone saying something that there's a possibility that the legion is split between being loyal to the emperor and to chaos at the same time which in a funny way still makes what you said line up lmao.
That’s very cool theory. Makes us like them even more 😀 They seemed fascinating from this video and it seems like initial assessment was right 🙂
Alpha legion play the smartest, and least "fair" of all the legions. a squad of 10 once took down an entire (HEAVILY populated and industrialized) star system.... they hijacked a bunch of random farm workers, injected them with a custom made fungus, and let them go. no ransom, no nothing. in a manner of months, the fungus has spread into the water supply and completely WIPED OUT the agri-world that supplied the other worlds in the system. by the end of the year food riots, governmental collapse, and civil war (financed and supported by the alpha legion) was system wide and the legion itself NEVER FIRED A SHOT.
If by “school of thought” you mean “it’s directly mentioned in their one Horus Heresy book that they got,” then yes
@@jordinagel1184 So it is canon that they're just playing Chaos? And if so, does that mean Tzeentch knows this and thinks its funny as hell
Funny thing about Lorgar: He's still alive, but hasn't been seen since the Horus Heresy because Corvus Corax has been waiting outside his front door to kill him for 10,000 years
That’s a long time to be hiding out 😳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames let’s not forgot corvus turned himself into a (non chaos) demon to absolutely ruin lorgar
@@ggavalon5803 I think more accurate would be to call him a warp powered elemental superprimarch.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yeah, Corvus took the Heresy shitshow *_very_* personally.
Well, all this shitstorm of heresy was HIS! DAMN! FAULT!!!
"Touching grass" is a popular meme for going outside. So no he didn't mention it because he smoked weed XD
Haha, 🤗 it was a shot in the dark 😛
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames It's what you tell someone who's terminally online.
There is no legion 2 or 11 that’s the weird clipped parts
The best way I've seen someone describe the Alpha Legion is that one part is loyal, another part is traitor, another is loyal but in reality they are spies for Chaos, another is traitor but in reality a spy for the Imperium, another part doesn't know who fights for so they attack everyone, another is a spying on their own legion and another who in reality isn't fighting for everyone.
🤯 yup, that helped explain it 😜
Also love the profile name 😂
The NightLords are Bricky's favorite faction because how interesting the story is between Primarch Konrad Kurs and his Legion.
Yeah Konrad's story is really sad. For example he has a gift that allows him to see the future but his brothers just shrugged it off when he tries to warn them because the feel uncomfortable around him.
That, and he also became the Night Haunter to liberate his people in a twisted way. He committed all those atrocities against the crime lords and gang leaders to scare everyone into submission and rid Nostramo of violence. But once he left, crime picked back up, and his legion was repopulated by the worst scum of humanity. He even allowed himself to be killed once he realized he had turned into the very thing he sought to destroy.
I think Cruse went mad because the Emperor constantly had him saying
'I'm Winged Mammal Man'
He's also really likes the salamanders so it balances out
Good to know. A story we will have to look into 🙂
Man I love the fact that the Alpha legion druged a world that had a ton of psychers with a hallucinating gas that made all the psychers in the world to have the same dream in which rains snakes, but then the collective consciousness of the sleeping psychers materialized the snakes into reality and killed like half of the world population in a day.
What a fucking chad move
That’s brutal. But awesome 😈
Snakes On A Plane Of Existence
@@doctorsnakeeater1997 I value you as a person.
I love the Blood Angels, because their primarch was the closest thing they had (besides Vulcan of course) to a truly good Primarch, who looked at their marines - outcasts that were shunned by the rest of the imperium because of how brutal they were on the battlefield, - and knelt before them himself, because he felt that he was the one who needed to prove his worth to these warriors who bled for a thankless galaxy.
And when he died, they lost the ONE person in the world who truly cared for them and saw them as more than monsters, and they fucking slaughtered every heretic and demon in their way while under the effects of the Black Rage, pushing a large portion of the invading heretic faction during the Horus Heresy back.
I would HIGHLY recommend either MajorKill's video on the Blood Angels/Sanguinius, or Oculus Imperia's video on the Blood Angel's history. They're both fantastic.
For Sanguinius.
Thanks for the video recommendations on Blood Angels 🙂
FOR SANGUINIUS!
They also gave me my favorite chapter of all time. My Beloved Lamenters
Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels and Leman Russ of the Space Wolves actually had a rivalry during the great crusade. It culminated in them having a fist fight with each other which lasted more than 24 hours. Eventually Jonson knocked Leman out with a sucker punch because Leman Russ started laughing at how stupid it was that they were fighting each other. Despite this rivalry they both deeply respected each other and their legions. Lion El'Jonson actually discovered the Wolfen Curse (space wolves turning into werewolves) that plagued Leman's legion, but out of respect for Leman he kept it secret and never told anyone else.
That’s always cool when respect comes from a heated rivalry 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames When Dark Angels and Space Wolves meet, each group chooses a champion, then the two champions re-enact the duel of their Primarchs by beating the crap out of each other for fun (and honour, don't forget the honour)
The Lion? Keeping Secrets? Say it ain't so!
*mumbles "Loyalty is it's own reward."
You didn't see me
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT! I love the Iron warriors so much. Something Bricky didn't really expand on about them is even though they're a "traitor legion" they aren't really followers of chaos, more like an employee that hates their boss/company and left for a better job. As he mentioned, instead of worshipping the dark gods, they essentially use them as a tool. They dislike chaos enough that, when demonic mutations begin on a marine, they amputate the mutation and replace it with machinery. At the current point in time they could be considered one of the most powerful of the traitor legions, as they are one of the most unified traitor legions left.
I'm not fan of their style, but I have to admit they have one of the most interesting story among the chaos space marines
It's my belief that Perturabo's goal is to destroy the four chaos Gods, or at least to shatter them and imprison or destroy as many fragments as possible.
Haha like the explanation of being disgruntled employees basically 🙂 we’ve all been there 😅🤗
So, they exchanged one bad boss for another.
They're not great at reading contracts, are they? X)
Yep
I was always Orkz fanboy but if there is a Space Marine Legion I love it is Iron Warriors, tough I love that siege extreme industrial vibe of " we need more ammo, turn another planet to toxic dump"
Love the reaction and the Alpha Legion choice.
A couple of notes on the Alpha Legion. The first as you probably noticed is that their allegiance is up in the air. This is largely due to the fact that the one word descriptor of the AL probably should have been “secrets” or “lies”. No one is sure what their long term goal is, partly due to their strongly decentralized nature and their use of sleeper cells.
This ties into another aspect of the Alpha Legion which is duty. The Alpha Legion fully understood its role in the Imperium and accepted their duty above all else. When the heresy happened there were so many different cells working on different objectives that they just kept doing them whether their goals were pro or anti Imperium, without new orders they will simply keep doing their job. That also ties into the “I am Alpharius” thing. They are all Alpharius because their individual identity if meaningless in the grand scheme of things, they are all Alpharius because they are all working toward the same goal.
Finally, surprisingly, they’re one of the more humanitarian legions in that they work to save civilians and extract their human operatives where ever possible without ruining the mission.
It was great to see more 40K content on here and I love all your videos so keep it up.
Nice to see another faction within the space marines have a somewhat humanitarian side 😊
"Laugh when you are killing, for it is only right that an artist find joy in their chosen craft... even if that is war" -Jaghatai Khan, primarch of the White Scars.
*I GOTTA,STAY HIGH ALL THE TIME SONG BY THE ULTRA-VERSALLY ULTRA-ARTISTIC ULTRA-MUSICAL ULTRA-GENIUS TOVE-LO.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................*
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The Space Wolves are noted for having the oldest living (dreadnaught entombed) space marine in 40k. Bjorn the Felhanded, he stood at the side of Leman Russ during the Great Crusade and took the helm of leadership when Leman disappeared into the Warp. This man is so venerated by those who see him, he was able to convince the Inquisition to stand down from unjustly persecuting the Wolves after the First War of Armageddon.
Typhus is technically supposed to be Mortarion's second-in-command but the two of them absolutely DESPISE each other. Mortarion hates Typhus because he was directly responsible for the Death Guard's fall to Nurgle and Typhus hates Mortarion because he rejected Nurgle's gifts at first.
"...Nurgle's gifts..."
no thanks xD
Jaghatai Khan to Mortarion when they duelled on Terra:
- _"I wanted to fight the Legion's master. Where is Typhus?"_
The Khan is a roast god. 😎
@@Archon3960 that one burnt harder than a fever from Nurgle....
@@Archon3960 even the Salamanders were jealous of that heat
Not to mention Typhus was a Psyker and Mortarion HATES Psykers. Gives me strong Angron and Kharn vibes.
The Night lords also became my favorite legion, mostly cause of Conrad's favorite son jago sevetar he brought up a good point that Conrad used fear to make there world compliant but never put any judicial system in place to keep it that way, there's so many night lords that are some interesting an engaging character's.
Nighthaunter was the judicial system... and while he remained there it worked. He was born and raised on lawless world so it is not surprising that founding a judicial system did not occur to him. But the criticism that he should have put the system in place to keep it running is valid, he knew he was gonna die eventually. Honestly, I would not be surprised if he did not come up with something just to have an excuse to exterminate the place.
the Space Wolves are also known to be very protective of the Imperium's people similar to the Salamanders, they even went to war with the Inquisition when the Inquisition wanted to exterminate an entire Imperial Guard regiment for having witnessed demons. The Space Wolves Chapter Master Logan Grimnar basically said no we made sure these guardsmen aren't corrupted, they are fine, and the Inquisition was like we don't care we're going to kill them anyways. followed by the space wolves using their own ships to protect the guardsmen from the inquisition.
There's a running joke about Rogal Dorn and his fortifying habit.
If he made some waffles, it will took you forever to cut a tiny piece of it, as it would be so heavily fortified.
A shaker cup is typically an exercise cup with a metal wire sphere inside that is meant for making a drink with something like protein powder, a protein shake. The wire metal sphere inside stirs up the stuff as you shake it around.
Thanks for helping us with that 🙂
The gamer supps version has a plastic ring at the top that does the same thing, they are also not machine washable (the gamer supps one)
Sanguinius, even Horus said he would not like to fight him in anger, Sanguinius lost not because he was outmatched, but because he was exhausted from 3 days of constant fighting, from single-handedly holding one of the gates of the Palace.
The Thousand Sons Traitor only because Russ didn't check who gave him the Kill command.
'Everything I do from this point I do for the Imperium'
Alpharius? moments before his 'Fall'
It’s not that Russ didn’t verify the command. It’s that it came from Horus, who the emperor had appointed Warmaster before Horus was corrupted.
@@thomash341 true, but he didn't check with Daddy, surly the command to wipe out a legion should only come from the head guy and not the No 2, Russ hated Magnus and this gave him an excuse.
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He was more than number two though. The emperor removed himself from the crusade and left matters of war to Horus. If Leman had to double check with the emperor, then Horus never would’ve been Warmaster to begin with. Granted, I’m sure Leman to some degree took the situation as a chance to roll Magnus but I don’t think Leman would’ve outright killed him unless he got the green light which he did in this case.
Or...
There's a theory that Sanguinius beat Horus but succumbed to the Black Rage and Big E. had to put him down and covered up the truth.
But that's just a theory... x)
@@stevencavanagh7990 Honestly, Leman Russ should’ve figured something was up when Magnus didn’t give his men an order to defend prospero, but once Magnus realized Leman was trying to kill all of them, he was totally warranted in everything he did to get revenge in the wolves afterwards, including the destruction of the successor program on Fenris.
So Bricky skips over the 2nd and 11th legions because in the official lore, those primarchs and their legions vanished without a trace and all records of them have disappeared. It basically gives players the freedom to just paint their Marines our own choice of colours and create our own lore for them, and have them still be canon (or at least canon-adjacent).
well, not really. it is more that they have been forgotten on purpose due to whatever horrible thing they did. it is very much said multiple times in a lot of the novels that even the primarchs are not allowed to talk about them. it is just unknown what they did to make them suffer that punishment. theories goes from them having a very bad genetic flaw, too they turned on the emperor himself.
That’s cool that they have lore reasons and tabletop reasons for having no official 2nd and 11th legion. 🙂
Actually it's implied that Russ and the Space Wolves killed most of the Legion and The Primarchs and the rest were absorbed into the Ultramarines
@@sakrefunholy So IIRC the thing about both legions is that everything about why they were forgotten, and what happened to them is not talked about. All data was purged, no one was allowed to speak about it, those who knew either had to die, had to swear on their death to never tell, or had their memories or ability to recall it removed.
While this implies some sort of vile act even more horible than what Horus did (and let's not forget: He mortally wounded the Emperor after turning 8 other legions against him!) it might also be a safeguard for said legions, in order to aid them in some sort of long-term plan.
It's the ABSENSE of ANY kind of information about them that's so remarkable.
My fanon for the 2nd Legion is that they're all squats :)
For anyone that doesn't know, the 2nd and 11th legions are referred to as "the forgotten and the purged" it is known only that the missing primarchs and their Legions are listed as having been "deleted from Imperial records.". Also, real talk: Roboute Guilliman is the most English, Englishman in a universe full of Englishmen. :P
Thanks for explaining that 🙂
wrong. Guilliman is meant to evoke the proverbial "last of the romans".
Dorn is the one modeled to be the quintessential english gentleman: stoic to a fault, zero sense of humor, honorable beyond reproach
The saying, "Magnus did nothing wrong" is technically true. He was told to do nothing, and he did that wrong.
I'm not sure you heard it during the Alpha Legion Part, but No One actually knows whether they're actually Loyalists or Traitors.
Basically, the Twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon were separated, one raised by the Emperor (theory is that one of these two was the first Primarch that the Emperor met, and personally raised.) while the other twin was the last Primarch found. and when the Horus Heresy started, They both understood that Chaos was bad and that they had to take it down for the Emperor, so they did it in the way they do things, infiltration. They joined the Traitors.
the issue afterwards was then what their goal was. one believed that Chaos had to win the Heresy, reasoning that Chaos would basically burn themselves out because that twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to destroy Chaos, while the other twin wanted to simply just keep sabotaging the Traitors and Chaos because that other twin believed that the Emperor's goal was to free Humanity from Chaos. but during the Heresy, one of the twins died, supposedly the one named Alpharius, but it could have also been Omegon pretending to be Alpharius, or it could have been neither. None of the other Primarchs even knew that they were Twins! they only knew that the Primarch of the Alpha Legion was named Alpharius.
and none of this is 100% confirmed. so no one knows who's alive, which twin is which, and what''s their ultimate goal! who knows!? not even Alpha Legion knows.
Nobody knows if they are Chaos specifically, but everyone knows that they are not loyal, lmao.
@@steelbear2063 There are loyalist Alpha Legion in lore, like one who works for Inquisitor Eisenhorn in Bequin series.
Great thing about 20th legion is that you can use them as traitors or loyalista in table top.
Alpha Legion is so damn cool and interesting 🤩😀
I don't remember if it's actually canon or just a theory but supposedly Alpha Legion is split into two factions. One is loyalist and helps The Empire where they can but in a way that they usually still seem traitor. The other faction is actually traitor.
This does make sense as during Horus Heresy most of them, lead by Alpharius, were truly traitor. Smaller part of them, led by Omegon, went kinda rogue and sneakily sabotaged traitor efforts were they could..
Vulkan and Konrad are two of the most interesting Primarchs, literally two sides of the same coin. Konrad saw the Emperor as a liar, a coward unwilling to face the consequences and machinations of his crusade to unify humanity, Vulkan knew the Emperor's dream could not last as a lie but was necessary at the time to keep humanity safe.
Needless to say when they met for the last time it was.... a mess.
Loyalist:
Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Iron Hands, Dark Angels???, Ultramarines, White Scars, Raven Guard, Salamanders
Heretics:
Emperor's Children, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, World Eaters, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Black Legion, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion???,
The 2nd and 11th legion exist for people to make their own custom chapters of space marine, and are thus never named.
"Touching Grass" is a euphemism for "go outside and interact with actual real people".
Oh it's Bricky. I'm a mod for him and their play group on the Dice Check channel. Always good to see one of the crew's work being reacted to. Looking forward to future reactions.
Is that a like a dnd channel or what?
@@caderiddle5996 war hammer channel.
@@caderiddle5996 Dice Check does 40k battle reports so you can watch Bricky and the rest of the gang playing matches with their actual armies
@@sanctamachina thanks for the info.
Nice! Brickys videos we’ve seen are always informative and entertaining. Maybe one day we will check him out in action playing 40k 🙂
Salamanders and the grey Knights meeting after a daemon incursion would be an interesting interaction
Space wolves are kinda cool with regular people same as Salamanders. They even got involved in war with Inquisition, truing to defend guardsmen when Inquisition tried to kill all of the guardsmen who witnessed demon invasion.
p.s. still hope for Helsreach and Last Church lol
To show you how dedicated Rogul Dorn was, him, Jaghatai Kahn and Sanguinis were the only three primarchs defending Holy Terra (Earth) from horus and his legions
Fabius Bile is a Emperor's Children apothecary, he invented something called the Daemonculaba, i wouldn't recommend looking that up unless you wanna lose sleep from the nightmares
Loved your reaction! And she put it so accurately with the Salamanders: "While they are loyalist, they realize that the Imperium is nothing without its people." 47:29. Salamanders definitely make my top loyalist legion. And my other two are the Night Lords and Emperor's Children cuz I'm a filthy heretic lol. Love everything about the Night Lords, their primarch, their aesthetic, their grimdark context, and I'm a Slaneesh adept so of course I'm siding with Fulgrim
I too am a Nightlord boi. Just gotta love the Slav gangster horror worshippers. *Hardbass and Kvass making intensifies *
Just wish I had the money for an army. But ya know. Crack is cheaper and they would never let me officialy play them at tournaments since I'd totaly give them all Adidas branding and add small jars of compot to their bases.
Filthy heretics are welcomed here 😁😈
At heart I'm a Harlequin fan because well, I think they're fun. Murderous space elf performers. But if I had to pick legions it would have to the Alpha Legion and the Blood Angels.
@@ashadowperson9905 I've read up a bit on harlequin lore since I made this comment, and I've also grown to love them. There's something so poetic about the myriad of masques whose entire purpose is to reenact the Fall of the Aeldari, and convey the Laughing God's insanity, unfathomable trickery, and ever-changing emotions through their performances in bloody war
So apparently the 2nd and 11th legions were meant to be the player made "do whatever you want" legions, and as the lines progressed, the lore changed to those Primarchs and legions did something that has never been explained that was so awful they were stricken from all records (hence Bricky not saying anything/static). I always find it interesting when you can see the tree rings of canon changes.
Angron is actually named not for being an angry boi, but rather after an illyrian king Agron during the 250s BCE. Fun Fact.
I'd love for them to watch and react to Helsreach!!
Of course it would have to be over a couple of episodes due to how long it is. But everyone who gets into the 40k universe should watch this.
100% especially now they know who the Salamanders are.
Yup. Plan to check it out at some point 😅
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Oooh can't wait. You will love it!
It should be noted for most of the Traitors legions whose home worlds have been blown up it was the Lion and the Dark Angels who did the planet destroying except for the Thousand sons(the space wolves did it) and the Night Lords(the night lords blew there own planet up) but the others where the Dark Angels and rhe lion going a a Vengemce tour.
Perturabo of the Iron Warriors was the ultimate genius, he invented things the Imperium cannot create in the modern timeline, he even wrote the imperium's manual on sieging, his legion never refused a battle and never received any praise for it, nor wanted any.
imperial fist fanboys often make jokes about the iron warriors but it should be noted during the heresy the iron warriors had successfully besieged the fortress of Terra shortly before the Emperor killed Horus.
Perturabo also humiliated Rogal Dorn at a battle named "the iron cage" which mentally broke Rogal Dorn into extreme depression.
He left out the fact that that Space Wolves like the Blood Angels have a curse that transforms them more and more into Werewolves basically, with some able to stave it off more than others.
When they succumb to the curse they are kept in the basement of their base to be used as Shock troops and mounts.
But for more indepth info I still recommend you react to Weshammer. He has shorts and longer videos that have filled in a lot of my blanks as far as Lore. Please consider it.
Wonder why he left that out for Space Wolves 🤔 seems like an important fact
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Wulfen've bounced in and out of canon, it's possible they weren't when this was done.
try helsreach fan movie, it's faithful adaptation of the helsreach book
Yes such a great series of videos
@@92chrissim plus they can either choose to watch the 2 hrs video, or watch it part by part
We do plan to eventually check that out 😅
For the Thousand Sons every single one of them was a psyker which even a single one is rare so something was going on. Before Magnus took over they were almost extinct because their bodies were becoming mutated beasts. It is believed that Magnus traded an eye to save his legion from any more mutations. After the Emperor banned psykers they “tried” to follow it, but Magnus used it to try to warn the Emperor of the Heresy about to happen but instead broke the secret warp portal the Emperor was working on.
The emperor demanded for Magnus to be arrested and brought to him to answear for his actions. However, Horus was now corrupted but others didn’t know yet so instead of telling the Space Wolves to arrest Magnus he told them that the Emperor wanted them wiped out which they were all to happy to do.
As per the dust in their armor, after they escaped into the warp to get away from the wolves the “flesh change” happened again and they started to uncontrollably mutate once more. Ahriman who was one of the legions best psykers decided to attempt a spell that would stop them from any more mutation. As the spell went there was a giant lightning storm that struck the marines welding their armor shut and turning all but the strongest into dust. The vast majority of the legion are nothing more than automatons with no personality or conscientiousness and only do what they are commanded to do with no hint of who they once were. Ahriman was banished by Magnus for this, but in all dark truth his spell worked since they no longer mutated, it’s kinda like that whole thing of making a wish with a genie where they give you exactly what you wished for but twisted the end result.
I am Alpharius.
YOU are Alpharius.
WE are Alpharius.
We are all lying, while telling the truth, sprinkled with omission and half-truths.
Signed,
Alpharius
Fun fact the Raven Guard are actually pretty nice people like the Salamanders. Their primarch Corvas Corax came from a world that he helped liberate from horrible oppressive slavery and loved making tyrannical crap hole worlds be overthrown and made better imperial worlds. As long as they serve the emperor then the Ravenguard are more then happy to help rebellions against bad planetary governors to replace them with worthwhile ones, after all it makes the empire better in the end and means no actual traitorous rebellion down the line.
He's not lying when Gilliman really wants to die. He is so depressed that when he finally reunited with his father after seeing what has become of him. His father offered no kind of comfort he just referred to him as the 13th has returned. And in his mind he believes that the emperor does not care one iota about him.
To some extent that is true but the emperor does on some level does care about his sons. The reason why he has received no comfort is because the emperor's mind is completely shattered. And Gilliman misinterpreted what happened.
But it's an understatement that he is very very depressed and is very trying to hold this empire together. He is trying so hard to get it back on track and it is difficult.
The world of 40k would be an easy one to become extremely depressed in 😢😨
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah well imagine you have been fighting a war for thousands of years to try to reunify the Galaxy. To create a safe space for Humanity to thrive to rebuild the Golden Age of humanity. You trying to get people to build to get supply lines going and trying to get the. Adeptus mechanic is to invent something and know how something works instead of just keeping replicating things. And don't know how they work you have to understand the great crusade was coming to an end and things were getting back on track. Things were not that bad there were no religious zealots the emperor kept telling people to don't worship him as a god.
They were actually normal people sure there were a few slaves here and there but. It wasn't very bad The Hive cities were actually making a comeback and turning into actual regular cities. And actually paying the citizens things were looking up the Eldar were kept at Bay.
There were no necrons no tyranids the orcs were pounded almost to Oblivion things were going good. And it was only going to get better since the emperor was going to give Humanity The ultimate gift. Access to the web way now what's special about this is they would no longer have to use the warp for travel.
No longer would they be going through the warp to feed the chaos gods they would. starve to death and they would eventually disappear. And citizens were going to be moved into the web way.
And it speculated that the emperor plan to get rid of the Dark Eldar completely eradicating them. And turning the dark city of the Eldar into a paradise and it's very possible he could have done it.
The plan was to have Magnus sit The Golden throne and power the web way. That would be his ultimate sacrifice the ban on psykers would have been removed and Magnus could sit on The Golden throne.
And then the emperor would have made one last campaign against. The Dark Eldar settle it with humans and the chaos Gods would have been starved to death over a course of a few millennia.
Eventually the Space Marines would have been decommissioned possibly killed like the thunder warriors or. Be redistributed as some kind of politicians probably because that was the idea Gilliman had.
For his legion he wanted his legion to be educated because. He wanted the Space Marines after all the fighting was done to be politicians statesman leaders. Future governors of planets he wanted them to be educated and sophisticated not just these battle-hardened warriors.
Because eventually The crusade was going to be over and things were just going to be looking up. There was no religion of the imperium things were looking good.
And then Horus had to lose his mind and start the heresy. And then everything after that fell into. Poop Hive cities became worse Imperial colonies became worse the Imperial cult was established the age of apostasy started. Religion started to be cracked down upon if you didn't believe in the emperor you were shot on sight and this is not what gilliman wanted this is not what he fought for.
He did not fight for a mankind to be superstitious zealots and he hates every single. One of these zealots he hates these people he absolutely wants to kill them. But he knows he can't do that if it was any other son of the emperor if it was lion el Johnson everyone would be dead..
The highlords would be dead he would go crusading against all these. Inquisition freaks he would dismantle the Imperial religion. But Gilman knows he can't undo all this damage by just killing everyone he has to do it over time and it's weighing heavily on his mind.
If it was any other son any other son of the emperor people would be dead people would be dying left and right. They even tried to betray gilliman and have him examined by inquisitors to see if he was the son of the emperor that's how insane this has gotten right there in front of you a son of the emperor has returned but they don't want to believe it because they want to hold on to power.
An Interesting fact about the Space Wolves is that they were also kind of the Punishers of the Emperor when they attacked the Thousand Sons they did so on commabd of the Big E himself and the lore heavly implied they are the reason there is no 2nd and 11th Legion
I think if I had to pick three favourites on each side, it would be Salamanders, Blood Angels and Raven Guard for the loyalists and the Night Lords, Death Guard and Thousand Sons for the traitors.
Quality picks 😎🤟
"Night Lords are little bit evil"
Yeah
Just a tiny bit
The intro brick did was truly hilarious, go shaker cup. Incredible video as always. Keep being awesome. Bethany is a super heratic, because bethany is truly super.
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For me, Alpha Legion is my favorite Chaos SM faction (allegedly), and the White Scars are my favorite Loyalist SM faction
Okay if you were wondering why Ricky kind of glitched on the second Legion is simply put there is no second Legion the emperor himself has deleted any record of that Primarch and that Legion we don't know why we don't even know their name so there considered a mystery even amongst the most adapt member of the Inquisition. This is also done to the 11th Legion as well
😎👍🙂 was definitely wondering why
The Viking space doggos are my bois. I dunno, there’s just something that appeals to me about Viking werewolves in power armour. 😂
I'll probably have to rewatch this a few more times to get a sense of the Primarchs and their legions, but I'm happy you had time to look at this for us.
Thanks for this reaction - there can never be enough bricky warhammer reactions its just fun and interesting to see how people react 🙂
He does a great job explaining this world 😀
The blood angels are definitely my favorite founding chapter, there's something very interesting about the duality of their nobility and beauty against the darkness in their literal blood. And Sanguinius is one of the few truly good primarchs, who wanted simply what was best for his sons and the people of Baal.
I like the Night lords (the blokes that skin people and throw them out the airlock) because they actually were the most effective of the legions in the sense of they killed the least people and left everything intact, by killing a thousand in the most gruesome way they saved the millions that surrendered without a fight.Its also for the same reason that I enjoyed the Jaquin Pheonix Joker movie they all tragic characters that had zero chances of becoming anything but monsters and its fascinating to watch the slow changes unfolding.
That’s actually a clever way (and a sadistic one) to save people. Not as evil as they seem 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah there was a dracula movie awhile back where Vlad the impaler makes pretty much the same argument that if he hadn't killed the people he had in the horrible way he had they would've fought back and thousands would have died instead.
SPACE WOLVES!!! Vlka Fenryka!
Yesssss, glad to see you guys found it!
Edit after finishing watching this: Bricky's transitions crack me up. So random. I need to see if I can find the sources to a lot of the audio.
Lmao I know almost every one:
1: Monty python and the holy grail
2: I think that’s Hank’s actor from Breaking Bad doing the one piece meme for a video
3:??? It sounds similar to that scene in back to the future, but I don’t think that’s what it’s from
4: ??? I just looked it up and it’s a uwui-ified version of a famous Nietzsche quote. Didn’t know this one.
5:SONIC BOOM, a technically for kids sonic cartoon that has so many funny adult jokes
6: a video by Markiplier just called “Woof,” surprisingly one of his most viewed videos
7: Donald Trump, of course
8:???
9: ??? I think this is SpongeBob but idk
10:???
11: This one sounded so familiar so I forgive myself for looking it up, it’s The Hunt For Red October, great movie
12:???
13: Monty python, Life of Brian, GREAT MOVIE and one of my favorite scenes
14: Uh oh stinky meme
15:???
16: Game grumps
17: Just a meme video
18: ???
19: never seen but I’m pretty confident that its Avatar
20: Meet the spy, tf2
I actually know less than I thought, but still I spend way too much time on the internet, probably just like bricky lmao.
Something that Bricky didn't have time to go into because of the video format is that pretty much all of the heretic legions (maybe except alpha legion) are very sympathetic up to a point (It is 40k after all, there are no good guys, ehh salamanders are closest in marines). Anyway, they're sympathetic in that most of the reasons they fell are very human failings that could have been overcome if the Emperor had actually been a good dad and paid attention to his sons more instead of treating them like tools. Basically, the vast majority of this is the emperor's fault.
We are on board with blaming the emperor 😏
I'm not sure if others mentioned this, but Legions 2 & 11 are glossed over in this video because lorewise they are expunged from the records completely. There are some cagey references in the lore to them having been purged before the Horus Heresy even occured, their Primarchs having been executed, and their surviving marines having been spread out across the other Legions (possibly explaining why the Ultramarines had so goddamn many marines sorta out of the blue.). The reason why those two are forgotten while the later heretics are remembered is mainly because it was possible to hide the treason of the 2nd and 11th, but once half the Imperium revolted and turned to Chaos, that was a completely different matter. There's no hiding that.
Now, the REAL explanation for why the 2nd and 11th legions are unknown is because Games Workshop simply kept the spots open so that players could simply make up their own primarchs and legions to use and play with, because the hobby used to be more free-form.
On another note, the touching grass thing is just a meme from Twitter to tell someone to get off the internet and go do something in real life. So I think Bricky was just saying he'd been offline for a while doing RL shit, hence the shirt change halfway through the video.
The thing about touching grass came from people joking how nerds never go outside.
We all are Alpharius.
-Omegon
Touching Grass means going outside.
✅ 🙂
Ah, what a fun reaction! Im glad someone else likes Alpha Legion too! Salamanders are one of my big faves, Thousand Sons are very neat too bc I really like Tzeentch haah!
Also... for games in need new additions.. maybe you could react to Sly Cooper stuff, especially the first three games! Its been years since the fourth game and Im getting desperate :"D
That’s a game we don’t know anything about. Thanks for the recommendation. We will try to bring the 5th game here 😇
The Imperial Fists and The Iron Hands are my fav
Touching grass in internet terms means going outside 😂 I love bricky thanks guys for checking this video out!
So, a couple quick explanations (some of which may be stuff you already picked up on, and I apologize in advance):
1) The phrase "touching grass" is an internet culture slang term for going outside, essentially unplugging for a bit. Totally understandable not to get that, as you guys probably "touch grass" a lot more than most of us on YT.
2) The reason for the reference to the 2nd and 11th legions and immediately hopping into the next legion is because, canonically, all knowledge of those legions specifically has been expunged from *every record.* Even the people who "know" don't really know in a weird kinda way.
3) Bricky started off with "Allegiance:" And would state whether they were loyal/loyalist (still with the Imperium) or traitor/heretic (now running with Chaos). Which makes the Alpha Legion even *more* interesting because, while they're heretics at face value, *no one knows* if the Alpha Legion are actually traitors or if they're playing the long con and trying to sabotage Chaos from the inside, sleeper style. People have debated that bit of lore HEAVILY.
Finally, I gotta say, my likes in the legions are remarkably similar to Bethany's. The Alpha Legion's intrigue is awesome and makes you think, the Salamanders are the closest you get to "good guys" in the world of space marines, and the Space Wolves aesthetic is just plain cool!
Thanks for going over some parts in this we didn’t get 🙂
the Blood Angels are the first space marines that i know when i watched a gameplay of Dawn of War 3. The Blood Angels, Salmanders and the Space Wolves are my favourite space marines
Those are Blood Ravens from the games. Blood Ravens were specifically made for Relic to have their own chapter to do what they wished with. Canonically, the Blood Ravens are completely unrelated to the Blood Angels, the only similarities are the name and similar colors.
Can never express how much I love the Salamanders as a Imperium Legion. They are by far what I personally believe to be THE perfect embodiment of humanity in 40K. In lore it's pretty safely clear and stated that Horus or even Sanguinius were the Emperors favorite sons, but I believe Vulkan is the perfect cut picture of what the Emperor wants his Primarchs and Humanity to be due to his unending trust in him and keeping him close by his side.
Yeah the Salamanders seem to be the only “good” people in Warhammer 40k 😇
Yeeeeees.
Been waiting for this reaction. You guys are gonna love this video. Very funny
Another great job by Bricky 😀
I find it funny that sometimes people are fully introduced to warhammer 40k's lore due to the fact how nice and respectful the supposed lore masters like Bricky are to those noobs.
Just to make it clear...
What he says about Space Wolves being able to eat their enemies to learn things?
Yeah, all space marines actually have that ability.
16:44, technically all space marines can eat their enemies for their memories/knowledge. Not sure why he made sure to point that out for space wolves specifically.
3:43: in case you dont understand what he is saying: the schola progenium literally cements kids into the wall for could be anything they dont like you doing (ie: sleeping in class)
and in case you dont understand what's the deal with the 2nd and 11th legion: they got ultra-expunged from all records, their primarchs dead (presumably), their legions slaughtered wholesale (presumably by the wolves)
to add a joke of the community that bricky didn't: the salamanders love you, unless you're a xeno, or specifically an eldar
alpharius after starting legion wide identity crisis: i am hilarius
alpha legion in a nutshell? there's an impostor among us
Touching grass means he went outside and interacted with real people
Brickey's Black Templar video is good, but Baldemort's video on them absolutely nails what makes them special. A must watch for sure.
I hope Vulkan returns to the flame bois soon. The Imperium could use his hugs - assuming he doesn't accidentally snap their spines.
The most disturbing part about Thomas the Chaos Engine is that it can actually exist in 40k.
Always fun to watch a Bricky video. I'm always a fan of you two watching his videos. For gaming, his Frostpunk (and the DLC for Frostpunk), as well as his C&C (command and conquer) videos are wonderful deep-dives into some of his favorite games. Just an idea. :)
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Touch grass means exactly that, basically going outside
Ah okay. Makes sense 🤗
Yeah, Bricky did a pretty poor job of selling the Nightlords. There's a lot that makes Konrad Curze to be a tragic villain and overall great character that he skipped for brevity.
Finally my favorite you tuber group finally reacted to this I was waiting to see your reaction to brickies Master piece
Yes!! When I saw Bricky's video I wanted to see your reaction to it, glad you enjoyed it too! :)
It was a lot of fun 😀
For the infant children there is only one member who didn't fall to slanish and that is Rilonar
A man so bitter coffee runs for light!! Best Perterabo description Ever!!🤣🤣🤣🤔
The Second and Eleventh legions, and primarchs have had their entire histories purged from the Imperial records, because before the heresy they seemingly did something REALLY bad, and messed up in a really bad way, and were essentially wiped out never to be mentioned again
Just when i was thinking wonder when they'd react to brickys vid Boom new reaction.
Love watching ur warhammer reactions cus im not very knowledgeable about this either, fun to watch with u guys
So the Primarchs of the Alpha Legion, Alpharius and Omegon were shown two possible futures during the early days of the heresy.
Either
"Horus wins, and Chaos triumphs, a terrible prospect, but likely. He will secretly hate himself for the atrocities committed in his name, If he wins, his fury will accelerate, along with his self-loathing. He will immolate the human species inside two or three generations. The self-destructive, redemptive urge in Horus will drive him to exterminate mankind in shame. Even his closest allies will war against him in Final Armageddon. Chaos will burn brighter than ever before, and then will be extinguished. It's greatest victory will flare, and then gutter, as the dying imperium takes it to it's grave. The galaxy will be spared through the sacrifice of the human race."
And the alternative:
"If the Emperor wins, stagnation will seize the Imperium. It will seek to perpetuate itself, over and again, across thousands of years. But it will decay, slowly and surely. It will decay, and gradually allow Chaos to seep back in and consume it."
They replied with "I stand for the Emperor, in all things, I am loyal to him. And I cannot break that bond, He has many great ambitions and the noblest of intentions. But I know that above all else, He is determined to stand firm against the Rise of Chaos. He has always known the truth of it. The overthrow of Chaos is his greatest wish, So what I do. I will do for the Emperor" Before firing upon friendly imperial ships and cutting communication from the imperium.
This would imply that they remained loyal by joining chaos, but this was 10,000 years prior to the current timeline and Horus is already dead but the Alpha Legion are the masters of lies and trickery. So who knows what their real intentions are at this point. They could be Heretics or Loyalists in Disguise.
touching grass meant moving out of the house or going outside
it's implying most people are introverts and never go out of their home.
Especially in the last couple of years 😅
All the primarchs were scattered across the galaxy as babies. The emperor either "never found" the second and 11th, or he found them and had to kill them.
If you like Emperor's Children - you should check "Rylanor's Last Stand" - the story of an Emperor's Children member that despite everything stay loyal and waited millennia to enact his righteous revenge.
his story is amazing!
but i actually love the Thousand Sons the most, when they do/don't do the thing :)
Funny enough, the way how I pickled my faction was I saw Mortarion's model and was sold immediately.
Haha, that works 😁
This might help clear up which Legion is on which side:
Loyalist:
- Dark Angels
- Imperial Fists
- Space Wolves
- Salamanders
- Ultramarines
- Blood Angels
- Iron Hands
- White Scars
- Raven Guard
Heretic:
- Emperors Children
- Iron Warriors
- Black Legion
- Death Guard
- World Eaters
- Night Lords
- Word Bearers
- Thousand Sons
- Alpha Legion (maybe)
cannot wait for Warhammer 40,000: Darktide to come out
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The skipped legions are originally there for fans to create their own on the table top game. however they then created the codex astartes and the chapters system and along with the expanding lore it became a large hole that needed explained. and so they are the unspoken legions. they are erased from all records and have even been expunged from the memory of the other primarchs. there is a scene somewhere where they are somewhat mentioned but its also said that there is a block and even the face escapes and name escapes memory. those 2 legions are so obscenely masked from existence that to even speak in passing like this would be considered worthy of exterminatus on your entire subsector.
In case you were wondering about the II and XI legions, those two were eradicated from existence, a refrence to romes lost legions.
Emperors Children are one of the strongest to play. And they get those lovely sonic weapons, and lovely melee buffs.
Nice! Knew there was a reason was drawn to them 🙂
And lots and lots of drugs made out of poisons, Dark Eldar stims, and actual _people._ 8)
@@Archon3960 Bet some of the drugs are called Soylent Green.
Didn't see anyone post this, but I think the Alpha Legion has a fun little historical connection.
The British had a team responsible for countering German intel during WW2, especially during the lead-up to the D-Day landings: The Twenty Committee, named for the Roman numerals XX
Or, a "double cross," if you prefer
the 2nd and 11th legion are unkown they are talked about in the lore with books but something bad happened before the heresy and all records are all wiped out. gamesworkshop did this to allow people to sorta create there own legions
“Touching grass” is Internet speak for “going outside” lol. It’s a joke directed at gamers who never leave their house.
To clarify the jokes about the 2nd and 11th legion.
They are referred to as the lost legions and there is no complete explanation to what happened to them, only that all records about them are gone. And asking about said legion is a quick way to be deleted from history.
Another thing to note is that the World Eaters and Night Lords share much similarities in the lore,
Both legions' primarchs were driven insane before being found by the emperor (In Angron's case he had already been implanted with the butcher's nails. And in Konrad Curze case he was constantly given visions about the future from the chaos gods)
Thus tragically, the moment the legions found their fathers, they were doomed.
Konrad Curze is actually one of the more tragic characters in wh40k because he is the embodiment of the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Starting out with trying to save as many people as possible, only to turn into more and more extreme methods until he would flay thousands to save millions.
Oh and if you’re wondering where “I wish to pet this creature” comes from it is from “If the emperor had a text to speech device” by Bruva Alfabusa
That is a series we need to check out for sure. Had it recommended but was told to wait until we get some more knowledge on 40k to get some of the jokes 🙂
the thing about the 2nd and llth legion was that something so bad happened that all information on their primarchs and legion were scrubbed from all records.
You guys should watch Platinum Wow's videos called "Everything you NEED to know about Dragons in Warcraft" and "Wow's STUPIDEST Dragon". They are incredibly entertaining and informative videos that adds a lot of context to the Dragonflight WOW trailer you saw a while back.
Thanks for the video recommendations 🙂
It's a shame the actual Table-Top game has passed me by (it's just too complicated now in my opinion), but I do love the lore. My first faction was the Alpha Legion and I always wanted a special rule for them where they would "Sow Discord", giving a chance for an enemy unit to do nothing for turn, i.e. couldn't move or shoot.