Apple River stabbing trial: Sober witness describes altercation
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2024
- Sheena Lowell, the 16th person to testify at trial, was a tuber on the Apple River and a witness to the trial. She testified she was not drinking because she's a recovering alcoholic. She said her tubing group came around a bend in the river and a group of younger people was yelling for help. Then, some people from her group walked over to help, including Madison Coen, who was eventually punched in the face. She said police took photos of Madison's face.
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You know there was a problem if they have to label a witness "sober witness."
Mui was the biggest drunk there!
This dude will be labeled a “MURDER” soon 😂
@@SpankyStanky1984Actually 17 year old Isaac was .22 that was the highest I think. But you haven't watched the trial so you have no clue.
I don't remember any recent cases where being drunk or high has gotten anyone out of their legal troubles unless deemed mentally unfit for trial or legally "insane" so I'm really guessing the BAC won't matter when he was obviously sane.
And in the opening question she admits to 3 criminal convictions. 😳
In two years she’s never seen the video but knows all of the group members by name.
Yea and the least credible witnesses are now known as the most unreliable, which is totally different than what used to be believed. Many innocent people were convicted off eyewitness testimonies
She also doesn’t know which hand Nick hit Madison with but knows he hit her and saw it.
@@Carolina-uf2ip That's not weird at all.
@@thehuntermikipl1170but she for sure knows it landed on the right cheek! 😂……which would indicate his left!
Yep they are humanizing the younger people and dehumanizing Nicolae
Her answers come instantly with no fore thought and her tone is incredibly abrasive
How are the criminals being called “victims”, while the actual victim is on trial?
It's America?!. Land of the free. Home of the brave. "Sign me up for disability and pass me another beer. "
Because it’s becoming a socialist communist country and it’s been happening that’s why we need to vote for Trump
the ONLY criminal is the MOO
Touch grass.
Are you kidding? This dude is predatory. He unecessarily approached these kids while armed, lied to the court multiple times. How are you so dense? I don't get it.
Sober or not, witness has gotten so many things wrong, I wouldn't rely on her testimony at all.
Ikr she was the sober one? she has the most inaccurate account of the incident.....lol this is wild
She has gotten things wrong according to... you? She's the sober witness.
@@soda1yes according to the video evidence. It's pretty easy to look at the video and see what took place vs her memory of what took place.
If they don't put this girl in jail for perjury, then why have a justice system?
How did someone in court not cough n say "liar" when she said madison didn't get near him. Lieing under oath is a crime, every person who took the stand should be arrested.
*lying
This witness is incredibly un-credible. She doesn't care what that video shows.
She's got her story and she's sticking to it.
Lol right! Can’t trust a woman with purple hair…
You do know the video shows him pulling out the knife before anyone touched him, right???
Him.who?@@RUclipsNeoconskeepcensoringme
Plus the
If she had a brain cell she'd testify that she was blacked out, because she lied through her teeth the whole time.
"Hey man, what you looking for? Oh yea, let me help you find it. Here it is. No problem, your welcome. Nice to meet you. Have a great day."
You see how easy that is kids. Its called treating people with dignity, kindness, and respect. Then, we wouldn't even be discussing this.
💥👆
Man for REAL
Sad but they got it.
Thank you!!!! 🙏
What if he’s looking at 17 year old girls under the water with his snorkel? I’d tell the creeper/pedo to leave too. He wouldn’t let them leave and started the fight.
What if he’s looking at the 17 year old girls under the water? Then he stops them from leaving. Then starts a fight. Also hides the fact that he has a knife.
Noone called for help..what a liar.
A group of "younger kids" sounds like 7-8 year olds. Not 17 -20 year olds.
This "sober" witness doesn't have memories consistent with the video.
This woman is clearly an emotional witness with strong opinions about this event.
She witnessed people getting stabbed
Notice how she immediately looks at the prosecutor after most answers, it’s probably because they’re cringing. The video contradicts most of her testimony.
@@Zhana808 yes! She's clearly got an agenda. And it's not a factual conveyance of events.
She doesn't even know them. Why lie?
@@looking4things669
She knew one of the people that got stabbed before the trip.
If she isnt lying, she has an imaginative memory..
Also, she is probably committing perjury "for the culture"..
This chick is too emotional and is lying thru her teeth !
The only sober witness has 3 criminal convictions...
And she's a drunk
Obviously u looked up her criminal background record?
I mean it's fair if she's gonna get up there and lie and totally ignore everything We can see in the video, like all of the other witnesses who are also lying about everything we can see in the video.
i stg if everyone involved besides miu doesn’t get criminally charged for this, i’ll file a suit against the city myself with my own attorney. This boils my blood like nothing else.
I know it's shocking to most, but people CAN and DO turn their lives around. Her convictions could have been from 10+ years ago... that's why it's called the past🤦🏻♀️
This comment deserves 500 TUs
This witness is doing the old "Nobody did anything wrong except the defendant."
like the "victim" who only remembered everything that the defendant did to them, but conveniently doesn't remember anything that they might have done to him.
He still had the knife at the ready before anyone touched him!!!
@@RUclipsNeoconskeepcensoringme And he only pulled it out AFTER they touched him!
@@ylekiote99999 you watch the video!!! Hell they even have still shots of it
@@RUclipsNeoconskeepcensoringme yeah I watched the video....I saw a bunch of drunk teenagers taunting and physically assulting an overweight middle aged man. He's going to be found not guilty.
For being sober she has the worst testimony of everyone. The video contradicts her several times.
She's not sober. Her skin is corrupted under a layer of pancake makeup. That's a sign of disease. And then she has purple Kool Aid in her hair. Truly bizarre.
Probably because she's the only one, so far, that hasn't seen the video, so she's going off her own raw memory.
@@jamiepatterson558 but she's drunk, she dont remember Schnitt
@@jamiepatterson558 Exactly.
csI RUclips ladies and gentlemen lmfaooo
A sober witness who didn’t really see a whole lot
Sober as a Judge!
She saw alot.
Somehow she only saw the parts she wanted to see, and heard it the way she wanted to hear it or the way she wanted the story to go.
@@jayns69a lot of nothing can’t believe she’s a witness. She may not have been drinking but I think she was smoking 🚬 or something else. A recovering alcoholic doesn’t go tubing stone cold sober js
The Prosecutors Job is not to establish lies or coordinate lies. This is contract fraud shit
Yet another witness who’s testimony doesn’t match the video
Her testimony DOESN'T match up with what the video shows. She lied under oath.
all these liars need to charged with perjury!
ah yes everyone is lying and Mui was just roleplaying as a attack helicopter.
Agreed and there's video evidence 🤦
Between the I don't remember I couldn't see and my hair was in my eyes it's almost like none of them were there ... except for their certainty on who the bad guy was 🙄
Why hasn't Madison given evidence?
Let's face the truth, everyone is drunk and don't remember shyt and lied. People got stabbed and killed. The person doing that is guilty.
This womans group wasnt even involved initially and they come up screaming at the guy without knowing anything about the situation. Crazy.
So true
yes! according to the teens own video, they just ran up screaming at the guy who was already being yelled at and taunted and threatened.
Pink Karen
The sad part is, I’m sure she will never admit to herself the role she played. In her mind, she probably thinks she saved more people from being stabbed. When in reality, her actions helped escalate things. Regardless of the conviction, she bares some moral responsibility for the dead.
They were called over by screaming boys who were just aggressively attacked by a drunk angry lunatic.
They attacked the old guy calling him names , calling him a pedophile just because he was old. And he defended himself self obviously , that’s what happened..
He should have walked away.
@@theeggtimertictic1136 walk away in water while getting pushed down in the water and punched in the face by 7 people. Self defense is what it is
@@theeggtimertictic1136 You're a very wise human being, get past the 4th grade or ??
"He approached this group and got into their personal space first. He grabbed their tubes, and dropped his own damn snorkel because he had both hands on their tube.
They told him to leave multiple times before anyone had touched him. He just made creepy faces and refused to go on his way.
He brandished his knife and had it in his hand before anyone touched him.
You can’t see it in the video, but he did hit one of the girls before he was pushed into the water, as evidenced by her sunglasses being on her face just a moment prior and then missing when she comes into frame again. THAT’S when they started yelling at him and pushed him into the water.
This is when he sliced up the first guy’s stomach (in the orange shorts) and disemboweled him.
He then stabs the girl in the bikini in the back, when she wasn’t even facing him.
At this point people realize he is going on a stabbing spree and begin to run away. Instead of him doing the same (if he was truly afraid for his life), he stabs/disembowels 3 more of them, killing one.
Then he calmly walks away as if nothing happened, discards the knife in the trees (conscious knowledge of guilt and disposal of evidence), and then walks to the opposite side of the river to rejoin his group.
He did not try get help, for himself or any of his victims. Instead he convinced his group to continue their float down the river and left the victims for dead.
After getting out of the water, he changed his clothes to disguise himself and then lied multiple times to police, because he didn’t know there was video of the encounter.
This guy is an absolute psychopath, and no matter how loudly those kids were yelling at him, he initiated this encounter, refused to leave their space, and drew his weapon before anyone had touched or threatened him.
Nothing about the way this guy created this situation or responded to it is defensible. ESPECIALLY continuing to stab 3 more people after everyone started running away, and stabbing one of the victims in her back when she wasn’t even facing him."
important summary from the original video post for the people in denial who think that loser psycho man did nothing wrong
@@taylorfrink1182 someone approaching their area and needing to distance himself with their tube to keep from getting attacked shows how violent they were. All it takes is one punch to kill someone in their 60s. Plus 7 against one. Is all you need for self defense. Just because they got the worst of it means nothing. There are not private property boundaries. Anyone should be able to swim up and down the river where ever they want. They were all drunk and tried to prove how bad they were to each other and got there assess handed to them . Self defense
Those prosecutors, and those "kids" should be jailed for a very long time.
Prosecutors are simply doing their job. We need prosecutors and defense lawyers alike. Never know what side of the law one may find themselves in.
She gives me dmv employee vibes 😂
They went from acting like bullies, to crying like little girls.
Hope they all learned a lesson.
Miu is going to learn an important lesson in prison.
@@alinebrandau3982 it's self defense, .. if he's convicted it'll be worse riots then Yorge Flyud.
@@alinebrandau3982 You obviously haven't been watching all the insanity out of Wisconsin. Even though the bullies are dressed up as victims the Law has a way of sorting out fact from fiction. At least in the State of Wisconsin.
FAFO those young men were pos bullies, probably like you
@@n1663r It never going to be self defense because he stabbed for different people, taken a 17 year olds life. For sure Mr Mui is going to get convicted but the trial is for what charge. My opinion is manslaughter and a higher degree because of the degree of stabbings
This is an example of a person going down with the ship.
She's so pissed that she had to witness what happened, and unfortunately the trauma of seeing it is completely clouding her recollection. Her frustration is boiling over and she's resorting to breath control to avoid screaming at counsel. She came here to punish Miu. That's what I see. She replies with a tone of certainty, but the video determined that her recollection was complete ass.
This is horrible the one sober witness for the groups and everything she is saying is contradicted by the video. Not good at all.
She never saw the video.... Would your memory be rock solid from an event over 2 years ago 🤷♂️
Well, she’s a liar so
I survived an abusive father, I am sober now. I cannot remember every instance of the abuse. I was there. I know it happened. Call me a liar.
@@janetrose3929 I would NEVER call you a liar, Janet. I grew up watching and listening to my Dad verbally assault my Mother and play mean psychological games with her. I don't remember every stinking, miserable detail of the awful events, but I am STILL dealing with this childhood trauma from that sh*t at 64 years of age.
@@todddanforth8853 The only thing I learned from him was how NOT to be. I have 7 siblings and most of us are damaged by that upbringing.
I'm confused, why is the prosecution making a case FOR the defendant ?
😅
They totally are!
Becoz the truth is the truth
Because the truth is all on irrefutable video!
The prosecution was stammering and stumbling like he was unfamiliar with the process when I heard him interview the first witness. What's the deal with that!? Maybe he had a migraine...been there, done that🤷😅
How did this case even make to a trial? I hope the accused sues them all after he's acquitted.
Just because someone is sober doesn't mean they're not stupid, just not as stupid as if they were drunk.
Her sobriety didn't compensate for her general lack of insight; just put her on a level playing field with the intoxicated witnesses
RIGHT ON !!!
Oh, so I guess you've been in this situation yourself? Witnessed this kind of chaos and 2 years later be drilled in a courtroom about every little detail that you've tried to forget because you saw people getting killed and sliced up and that was traumatic? You've been there and done that? If not, I don't think you can judge her. I see you do understand stupid though. Like you really have been there.
@@Yosetime oh ive been in chaos where there was a dead person with her whole face blowed off and i remember every thing ! this was not a judgment but a observation
shes even a recovering alcoholic with prior record and pink hair.. lol she seems very creditable. lol
Not so sure she’s being totally honest
I do not think she is being honest!
I agree
I agree 👍
She’s not. If you watch other testimony where the video is shown…it’s contrasting what she is saying.
Somebody should have allowed this chik to peep the video so she can get the facts. She's a liar.
I’ve partied as a young adult but I never had to taunt and bully people and feel invincible as a group.
Same here. No matter how drunk or high I’ve ever been I’ve never bullied/harassed/assaulted anyone. Not guilty
Same
Lol so you can just gut and stab teens that are being mean to you 😂😂😂@@cortneyrens you have to be the biggest snowflake to think it's okay to stab someone for being mean to you.
i've seen it...and in that time there wasn't an Instagram or TikTok influencer recording and ramping up the escalation with hyped up narration and everyone "performing" for a viral video
Group of males.
A recovering alcoholic does not hang around a bunch of drunks. Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are.
What a liar. There was nobody yelling help until after they got stabbed. Video don’t lie
Why does she keep looking over at the prosecution team every time she answers a question. Looks like she’s been coached what to say and she’s looking over for reassurance 👀
Jesus what's going on up there with all the liars! If it wasn't for that video they would nailed this man to the cross
Well, they are trying.
hes 50 and instigated it first by coming over and flipping the teen on the tube.
he also carried over the knife at the same time. to murder. kids don't have the life experience a 60 year old man does.
Agree all those are a bunches bad behavior teens that believed the world 🌎 is just them now a friend dead but a regular decent man faced life in prison is sad when didn't raised good kids that respect older for me the instigator is the guy with the cammera no doubt he need to hold accountable all those who accused rapper just cuz a old man and call name is very unfortunate situation am sorry but this man need a second chance cuz was not his entire fault
A group of about 6 guys got in one mans face- who was looking for an item that belonged to him- they taunted him, pushed him down in a rocky river, slapped him across the face and accused him of "trying to get with little girls." Sorry but they had something coming after pulling that shit.
@@deepemotion2745he didn’t flip anyone out of a tube. Get with the case.
There was ONE SOBER PERSON on that river?
Amazing!
Going around large groups of drunk people is a recipe for disaster!
I would much rather go ANYWHERE where there are no people and no drunks!
Mui been one of the ppl drunk on that day himself..
Why the hell would a recovering alcoholic be hanging out with a bunch of drunk bar people. smh
I "saw" Madison get punched in the face. 👀
Which hand did Mr. Mui punch Madison with? 🤔
I didn't "see" that 🥴
Understandable. It was chaos afterall.
Mr Mui is right handed and she said Madison was holding her right side of face
"what kind of punch was it?"
"A punch."
@@JohnJohn-cu7nk Exactly, I sure hope jury sees through all the lies
@@darkwingduck3477 😂 which is worse….the “a punch” answer or the previous witness stating Mr Mui “jumped out of the bushes in a jacket, long pants and a hat.” 🤡
They thought Isaac’s group was screaming for help because it was high-pitched drunken screaming of ridicule. In the video all the 17-year-olds think it’s all hysterical until people start bleeding.
Sorry but if a fat man comes up cutting up tubes and won't leave them alone. That fat man should of left the kids alone
You’re point? God it’s the same BS every single time. They bullied him! They called him names! Boo boo hoo. He was the adult. He could have waited for them to continue down the river. Instead he grabbed their inner tubes and became the actual aggressor.
Head-line little shots attempting to be big shots get handed lunch then play the victims. That about right?
that's when the trip turned bad....and all the people are lizards
@@modernistono video of before what’s been released..what we see is him charging their tubes right away..no context leading up to that..how do we know the kids weren’t saying they had the phone? Or any number of things in that sense that maybe would be why he charged them..like how do you know they weren’t yelling “my phone now old man” or whatever..
Perfect example of people "seeing" what they want and being sympathetic towards those they associate with. So far, all the witnesses I have seen have very "selective" memories and are horrible witnesses. The state should have just presented the video and rested.
Each one of these kids is more insufferable than the last.
No kidding man. They’re awful to listen to
The attorney is awful at eliciting a story
Awful because he's trying to make this self defense incident into a non provoked random knife attack which it wasn't. S E L F D E F E N S E.
@@jjman533 that is CORRECT.
@@jjman533Putting the jury to sleep doesn't help either side! It's as if he's just thinking up the questions.
And telling the story. The defense is much better at creating a narrative although not always based on the evidence. He makes some assumptions not supported by evidence in order to further his narrative.
Came here to say this.
The best thing that happened for Miu is that it was caught on video. This girl's testimony bears little similarity on what actually happened along with most of the other testimonies from the "stabbing victims" I have never seen such a group of unreliable witnesses.
She's a liar !😊
Pink hair
Yes, but her testimony makes Miu seem worse. They asked for help. He didn't let them leave. Plus the small matter of him taking out a knife, not when he was attacked but when the girls were asking him to leave.
It makes me wonder how this trial would of went without the video.. and how many we falsely accuse based on their "memories" Nearly everyone's memory is inaccurate.
He's a liar. And the video and his own testimony is going to sink him, just like the imaginary lost phone. @@joyceknight9568
Shenna is a witness to him punching not slapping her...but didn't see it happen and can't say what fist but knows its the right side of her face....is this an actual witness?
The thing that stands out is the punch to the face… no one can say the definitely saw it. Some say it was a punch, some say slap, no one can say what hand or what side of her face. They all say it happened but no one when pressed further “remembers” and then they change their story.
😂 people should learn to keep their hands off other people🙌
Exactly and now because this guy lost control (doubt he had any to begin with tbh) he choose to become a murderer. Stupid idiot should have walked away and left the kids alone like any normal adult would have. Call the cops about a bunch of kids drinking on the river acting like fools and let the police do what THEIR JOB IS not yours.
I agree, Nikolai shouldn't have run up to them and assaulted two of them with clear premeditated intent of starting a physical confrontation so that he could stab and kill people in response.
Facts
This part!!!
@@publicanimal 🤡
Why is she talking like that?? She has pressured, fast answers. Is she an angry robot??
She s trying to navigate her lies
Because lying makes people nervous
She's rehearsed
Do witnesses have to have a mental health evaluation before taking the stand?
So is the prosecutor really trying to blame the victim that used self defense. Someone should have shut the DA down before this was a charge.
I'm hoping something can be done about his guilty verdict or sentencing. Just like the semi driver that caused a terrible deadly crash a few years back. He was originally sentenced to decades of prison time, but after something was said or done, he ultimately was given a more "reasonable" prison sentence for his crime.
Weird that she KNOWS that Madison didn't lay hands on Nicolae when the video shows the exact opposite. If you're going to lie on the stand, maybe don't say something that can be directly disproven with video. Or, you know, don't lie.
So weird why she says at the very beginning that she hasn't seen the video
Glad a lot of ppl have noticed her false testimony, with direct evidence showing she is not correct. I guarantee the jury has been seeing a theme here with all the false testimony from prosecutors
I wonder if any of them have watch the video. I'd be embarrassed seeing my drunk self doing what they did. I'd be admitting my part in it as a sober person instead of lying like they all are.
@@madsdee7803how could they not have watched the video tho? I find that so sus
She hasn't seen the video because it is states evidence only to be seen at trial and, as a witness, you are not allowed to see any of the trial or evidence as it could compromise your testimony (IOW, you might alter your memory to align with evidence)
If you see drunk folks leave. They are always trouble. Always. Just leave have fun somewhere else.
Especially if the drunk person has a knife
@TamiFowler1 100%
And especially if you're an adult and you see loud teens having a good time. You can't take them seriously or let them bruise your ego. Teens will be teens. As an adult, mr mui should've just walked back to his crowd and laughed it off etc. It's similar to road rage. Ppl that are armed, whether knife or gun, will feel like they're obligated to not back down and stay and fight. Mr mui had plenty of chances to just leave and even the blonde girl from the second group walked over and told him to just leave them alone and go back to his crowd, but mui being armed and hearing loud mouth teens make fun of him, he felt he needed to teach them a lesson. The look on his face says it all. From the beginning. He looked like a deranged lunatic. He definitely wasn't fearing for his life. If he was so afraid, he would've just left them alone and walked back to his crew.
@@jamesbroomfield7799 Most of those "Teens" were adults too. Keep telling stories to justify your emotions.
@@jamesbroomfield7799did you even watch the video? Those kids were all taunting him. The instigated it he walked away and then they escalated the situation. Those kids think they can act in anyway to anyone with no consequences. There was a lot more of them then there was of him. How else was he supposed to protect himself? He might be older but they are a lot younger her and more fit. Those kids messed around and found out. It’s sad but let this be a lesson to everyone especially younger kids who never think anything bad will happen to them, that you can’t just do whatever you want and act however you want to act because you never know what another person is going to do or how they will react.
It’s a good thing she was sober to remember the events so vividly.
Two inches from the guy, screaming drunken profanity in his face, knows nothing of the situation, but she says that she was not getting in his face???? This whole thing is a mess.
she did put her hands on him, it's in the video.
That doesn’t mean that’s how she saw the incident. 5 witnesses to a car accident will give 3-5 different scenarios.
So a teen girl puts her hands on you … you’re going to punch her in the face and kill her friend.
You can’t hit a teenage girl cause she hit you.
Yeah, she's going from memory, which she really should say. On the other hand, they use it against her by poking holes in her memory of the event.
@Swen-bk3kzlol you’re delusional
@@canileaveitblank1476 and yet it's still admissible in court.
point to this when people state that polygraph isn't reliable. They are like 80%, while eye-witness testimony is like 50% reliable.
And that's the old tech.
The new stuff is like 99% reliable (MRI+AI)
This person is like 2%
I hope the jurors are not as stupid as these witnesses.
😂 Miu had the knife out from the get-go!!!
Well, at least if they get it right you can at least claim it's just because they're stupid. It couldn't be you.
They were raised on TikTok
They were KIDS
They’re not, that’s why all the morons are stuck here replying to you about things they don’t understand. I can’t believe they even let all this trash into courthouse.
Lesson learned here is if you lose a phone or an object and you have to look at an area with a mob of drunk teenagers, leave whatever object there is because your life might be in danger or you might go to prison for the rest of your life for having to self-defend yourself against the mob of teenagers that have never been taught morals.
Or you could just not put your hands on any of the "drunk teenagers" like this psychopath did.
@@megmoe43 Oh? How many times was that man hit slapped pushed? And he is not supposed to put his hands on them?
@@bonnenaturel6688 sure he could of put hands on them but he can't stab them. Also what I am referring to is when he checked his pocket for his knife charged at the guys on the tubes and put hands on them. He was the first person to put hands on anyone. He could of not done that and none of this would of happened.
@@megmoe43 oh? You can’t use a knife to defend yourself against THIRTEEN people?
@@bonnenaturel6688 obviously not since he was found guilty and will die in prison. THRTEEN people don't be dumb he was never being attacked by THIRTEEN people. The monster had the knife out before anyone laid a hand on him. Not one hand of the supposed 26 that were attacking him had even laid a finger on him and he already had the knife in his hand.
The more I watch, the more it looks like self defense.
lol
Same here, looks like everyone involved was drunk & they're throwing this guy under the bus & painting these younger people out to be saints or victims when they never tried to avoid conflict at all, the video shows them loving it until mui used the knife, now they act like they did nothing, this is a miscarriage of justice.
I was really nervous I was going to be the only one feeling this way. Reading the comments on these videos I'm glad that's not the case.
is this a joke?
Self defense - you can't use excessive force! If you can retreat from the situation you should!
Prosecutor missed class in law school on how to do direct examination
Agreed. He's terrible.
I think he failed English as well ,probably trained him using cartoon videos
OMG yes. This guy is just awful. Even his line of questioning is disjointed and incoherent. Like he lost his notes and was trying to improvise.
Yeah, he’s going to lose.
I've sat as a juror for 6 weeks on a federal trial. He actually sounds just like the prosecution in that case. You may think he's not good, but he is exactly what they sound like. He stops himself because he has to ask questions in such a way there can be no holes in meaning by the defense. That is why it is choppy. The minimum amount of objections by the defense show how thorough his questioning is.
State's gonnabe busy with all these perjury charges 🧐
🤣💯
😂
😂 oh yea
What year did you drop out of school?
Straight up, and aggravated assault now that the vids are out. AJ’s and purple hair’s criminal records are going to get a little longer.
The dude defended himself against a gang of 13 drunk bullies. Not guilty.
aged like milk
He threw the first punch at a chick.That's not defense.
he literally stabbed a dude trying to push his assailants away and help him, how is that self defense.
@@Jennifer-ul2vz False. She was drunk and first put her hands on him while taunting him.
@@Jennifer-ul2vz They are on video physically touching him and shoving him while waving a phone in his face. They got physical first and its recorded. There is no recording of Miu punching Madison and it is not audible. Almost like it never happened.
And this is why I’m scared to have witnesses’s like this with my life on the line as a defendant god forbid I defend myself or family.
If you have ever been a juror it's scary how dumb those twelve can be also.
@rickus7843 So true. I was picked once, but the case was thrown out about an hour into the trial due to some evidential mishandling BS. Rich kid’s family attorney got him off, for sure, as the evidence was overwhelmingly against him.
Anyway, I was in selection a year ago in a small town, and I was amazed at the ignorance of my fellow jury prospects. I was too verbally forthright and logical in my responses to their inquiries to be selected in that case.
Parents failed to teach their kids. "Never corner an animal"... and hiding behind your phone does not make you untouchable. It doesn't matter if you're recording or not. If provoked, people will attack you.
He provoked them by approaching them and assaulting two of them before anyone touched him, loser.
True, even a mouse will bite if cornered.
What a stupid comment. THEY could have told them BUT they are kids, MOOORON>
@usgamechamp2323 "Hurrr Durrr bUt tHEY aRe kIDs!!!" That is not an excuse, and no, they are not children anymore. They are not infants. They are capable of rational thought. They are responsible for their actions. Apples don't fall far from the tree, and their parents dropped the ball, whether you like it or not.
@@usgamechamp2323 They aren't kids and they are at fault
If you’re a recovering alcoholic do you really hang out with all your drunk friends? Oh dear.
😂😂😂
No, we smart ones don’t. There’s a saying, that if you hang out in a barbershop, eventually you’ll get a haircut. This chick has zero emotional sobriety and is white-knuckling it.
My roommate was an extremely bad alcoholic & is now sober yet hangs around his friends that still drink & he's never touched it again-went to a bar w his whole family & their friends for his sons 21st b-day, didnt touch it...Are you really saying people that used to be alcoholics can't or dont hang out with people who drink? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ Oh dear.
Maybe that's why she moved to another state
@@rhi7782 there was more to it than that. One witness said she was just a random girl that came with me. He didn't even mention her name. I don't think they were close friends. Someone mentioned she's moved to another state. Hopefully they've all learnt a lesson from this horrible situation. Life is full of unfortunate situations that hopefully we learn from. Tragic. Yes, I get your point. I don't drink any more and will spend time with people that may drink one or two. However, I wouldn't hang out with a bunch of people that think harassing, taunting an old guy for fun is entertainment.
What a freaking liar. This is disgusting to watch. Shame on her.
heavy breathing indicative of a liar
Madison was an instigator. Got what she was looking for. All these "teens" were wrong. They should be held responsible for Issac's death. Very tragic but if they left the guy alone, this would have never happened.
Funny when adults can’t be adults and clearly can’t tell when one should be one. The guy had ample opportunity to leave before anything escalated. If you watch the entire trial you would have seen him aggressively run up to their tubes and push it which is why the young boys stood up. He didn’t exactly seem like he wanted ”to be left alone”. He’s all brave because he has a weapon which is why he hung around and wouldn’t back down but now wants to cry to mama because he’s facing punishment for stabbing minors who hurt his feelings with some name calling.
Someone’s bruised ego meant even other groups not involved couldn’t convince him to leave even though they told him to.
News flash he was tubing too but didn’t seem in a hurry to join his family and friends… next time buddy needs to get back on his tube with his little weapon muscles and move it along.
Crazy how the biggest instigator that day was the one crying hardest this day! Guy holding phone should be charged for inciting a riot (or something) they should ALL be charged.
@@moselleconger4156So you think the group attacking and harassing the line man looking for a phone aren't adults? They also had every opportunity to calm the situation down...but they chose to continue escalating.
@@tracylamb7333 Absolutely.
@moselleconger4156 I feel sorry for you and your ignorance.
she's lying through her teeth...shes panicking on the stand during cross....just look at her body...so tight & tensed...breathing so hard...
She barely moves, she is so afraid
@@misterm4590 she knows what they all did...she knows all of them are guilty on their part...I wish I could've been there and see what kind of open cans where they were drinking
You have no possible way to know if or not she is lying. The things would claim she did on the stand even if true mean nothing
She had her script well rehearsed, and didn’t waver from it, even tho it was completely contradictory and she just came off even more dishonest. This trial is such a mess.
The only “sober” witness is testifying and it’s opposite of the video.
She’s won’t even answer correctly when she knows what she is saying is wrong.
That’s intentionally lying isn’t?
Sober then, sober now, unwilling to say what honestly happened.
Why do they even need witnesses? We all could see the video how the drunk pack encircled, pushed and slapped the man before he chose to defend himself.
so the fact that you fell today and it wasn't recorded means it didn't happen? This man was only hit after he hit one girl and cut another. Only then did the boys, defending these girls, start attacking him, so start thinking and stop lying that this "poor drunken aggressor was beaten and defended himself from the hands of these kids, cutting them open as if he was gutting fish." He's a lying, lying murderer. Do you want a movie? watch the video of his arrest and prison as "this poor man lied and pretended it wasn't him and then was surprised that it was the kids (and not him) who had the knife." what's wrong with you?
After he punch a woman... I suppose that wouldn't bother you at all.
Wrong, he pushed them on the tubes first!!! Then he pulled out the knife before anyone touched him
Did you even see the video?
@@gbrazor I did
Kina funny how they keep trying to portray them as kids
I mean…..7 to 1?
Bunch of young boys in their prime vs a fat man? What are the odds of that?
Just how many cases were judged unfairly before cameras were around filming everything!
It's starting to look like a witch hunt like you've never seen before.
BULL SHIT! EVER HEAR OF TRUMP?...YOUR ACTUAL PRESIDENT?
She is the worst witness ever. The video contradicts almost everything she is saying. Wow. The defense attorney destroyed her.
As he did with all the lying witnesses thankfully. And I guarantee the jury is noticing
Nothing's gonna save the man that gutted kids and then tried to conceal himself and escape police and then lie about his knife. He's a criminal murderer.
@@davidsoto7459 Right. He escalated it. Full stop. If he walKed away; sure he might get a few bumps on the back of the head but then could’ve had the kids charged and no big deal, no one needed to die. It’s obvious hey? Why are others so stupid.
@@Timbo6669bumps on the back of the head…? Walked away…? You mean when they were beating him and knocking him into the water and putting their hands on his shoulders to try to shove him under as their friend filmed and laughed…? I guess he should’ve walked on the water also as he walked away 🤦
@@hangryturtle9006 I just can't believe he thought those kids were going to kill him so he needed to stab and slash them. That's crazy 🤯
This should show everyone, just how unreliable witness testimony is. Fortunately the idiots recorded their attack.
None of the "victims" are innocent victims. The defendant had a right to be where he was, people forget that he was looking for a cell phone which could have cost $1,500, and most likely had personal and financial information. The defendant had a right to look for the cell phone and the groups of people had no right to tell him to leave. In addition, putting your hands on someone is considered assault. Not a single witness has a clean slate on this one. Never push someone into a corner as you never know if, when, & how they will react. I would be humiliated to have been a part of such a group much less to be the person (Mr. Cockfield) who incited the group as they are responsible for a young man's death (as is the young man himself). 15 to 20 people against 1 person... this was definitely overcharged... and the kids all have blood on their hands.
Man, I've seen some bad witnesses, but this chick is some different kind of bad. She can't even lie well. I don't have a horse in this race, but this gal is lying like crazy.
She's a weak character..she runs with the crowd..nothing she says has any substance.
I don't have a horse in the race either, but I noticed watching chat today that everyone saying guilty are foul mouth leftists that wear their TDS like a badge of honor
@@dreadfullguppy19
if she's actually a "recovering alcoholic" as she says, then ur, "running with the crowd" thing wouldn't really apply..
Do you think mui neglected to verbally communicate with the other tubers what he was doing because he didn't want them swiping the lost phone? I know when I've lost things among a group of people I don't want anyone to know cause I'm worried they'll find it first and keep it for themselves.🤷
i am here for the comments.
Same🎉… I notice comment sections for true cringe have been disabled and I cringe!
Right
They're hilarious
Always! Reasonable Doubt is the Standard of Proof. This is Self-Defense. This Defendant will go home.
Ditto!
This is a travesty of justice.
A group of 13 individuals can come upon you, surround you, shout offensive remarks into your face, demand you leave, escalate a situation into violence, punch you numerous times making sure you won't get up & if you're an elderly man with a heart condition whose only protection is a pocket knife, YOU are the CRIMINAL for using it in SELF-DEFENSE..
Absolutely C R A Z Y !!!
He approached THEM. what are you going on about?
Owen's initial police report stated that Miu told the boys that he was looking for a phone when they floated to where he was searching. It was only after corroborating that this story changed.
A bit of a coincidence that this lined up with Miu's story so closely. Police also recovered the phone he was looking for afterward.
Both parties have made grievous mistakes in this case. I don’t defend him for stabbing anyone to the point that they might die. And someone DID die. But those young people were also bullying and putting him in physical danger as well. The whole thing was very wrong on both sides. If those young, drunk people weren’t bullying him, this might not have happened. The man who stabbed them was being violent in a way that was not acceptable. This is what happens when people don’t think before they act. And when people who are drinking alcohol shouldn’t be drinking. I feel bad for everyone who were traumatized and their lives were changed because of this terrible day. May everyone heal properly and quickly, and learn from what happened. Getting older helps us all learn things that we didn’t know when we were younger. Mr. Miu has had a hard life and I believe he was triggered into doing something wrong. He should have walked away and let it go. If they let him. I wasn’t there and I didn’t see everything of course. May the injured people heal well and are able to live a peaceful and positive life. May everyone learn lessons that will benefit them in each of their lives. No more anger, or violence should happen because of this tragedy. I wish everyone well.
@@madisynbrinsky9682the original poster doesn’t say they approached him,…..he wrote that they came up on him!……this is a totaly different meaning!
Too add if you think this isn’t self defence, your as delusional as the Jury that convicted him! Or you havent watched the video!
I ain’t ever going to that state, its full of soulless liars that have no conscience! Imagine being accused of something and a video that proves its complete lies, cant convince a jury!
@@madisynbrinsky9682 he didn’t approach them with violence. What are you going on about?
With these kids selective memorie, you'd think they were cops.
Wow, the sober witness got so much wrong. incredibly scary.
She's defending all the drunks.
Maybe she should have reviewed the video before answering those questions.
She was sleeping with the loser kid who shot the video and instigated the whole thing.
Eye witnesses are the least reliable forms of evidence - memory bias and stuff is super common there’s loads of research bout it it’s dead interesting
Were you there? Smh
Everyone, if you can, watch the part of the video where these teens are taunting Miu horrendously. They were in his face yelling at him and waiving their arms. His phone fell in the water and he was quietly trying to find it. they wouldn't allow it. They called him a pedophile and many other names. As Miu walked away, they got even worse. They wouldn't even let him walk away quietly. They were like a bunch of rabbid hyenas trying to get a reaction frim him. The teens had been drinking and smoking pot. I can see why Miu. See what you think for yourselves. Until I watched it, I thought Miu was the instigator.
Yes that’s how I saw it. He would have been terrified. So sad to end with a death. A bunch of bullies, alcohol and 1 man w a knife. Ugh
You are wrong. Go watch the video and read more about what happened and youll see where you are wrong
@@bipolarexpress9959 the kids got what the came for, a fight and to pick on an old man… kids these days are out of control. This will be a good learning experience for everyone.
And they want you to think dope makes the idiots who use it lazy and peaceful!!!! Like hell it does.
For 2+ years, Shenna Lowell has imagined what she thought happened and ignored the reality of what actually happened.
This is why my mom says "do not get involved" when something doesn't concern me.
we have video. why do we even need these witnesses. this woman directly contradicts what is in the video.
Thank god for the video… even with indisputable evidence they are still trying to give their story of being “just teens having fun” bs 😹 who knows what tall tales they would claim if it weren’t for video
@@cortneyrens she claims the teens that got stabbed by the older group were "having fun"? I don't think they were having fun at all
Where is the video?
@@justme-dm7sbnews sources put it up
Funny how all these witness happen to have seen every time the old man hit one of them, but they all either didn’t see or don’t remember the group hitting the old man
She did say 1 of her friends hit him twice !!
I don’t think early 50s is really an “old man”
Funny how you apparently don't remember what the witness clearly said.
sober alcoholic 3 time convict who knew the "victims" by first name... verrrry credible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They attacked the man, he defended himself. This is the consequences of stupid actions. They bullied punched and pushed the guy under water. And they are now crying because he defended himself. No one deserves to have their life taken but this case is self defense. The man should be let free the kids should be charged
Thank you exactly. They should Reverse these charges.
Uno reverse card
No actually the man approached the kids for no reason and then punched a girl in the face before the kids responded. Get a clue...
@@HarveyMushman888F@F0
@@HarveyMushman888 I think yall are all watching the beginning only. Not the entire video. The beginning it appears he is walking toward them but they are all in moving water. You should get a clue about rivers and watch the entire thing
Hmm..she sees EVERYTHING the defendant does,but NOTHING her friends do..interesting..
Ehhh, Maybe because he was the obvious center of attention? Understand mouth breather?
I was looking for this comment
She's just a witness they weren't her friends
@@raeraebadfingers She got everything wrong. She must be blind.
I wonder why the group of kids that were yelling for help didn't walk away from the older man themselves. Not many people are going to walk away because you yell at them to.
Video never show them asking for help either. Just a bunch of drunk young men, in their prime bullying and much older man.
Because he aggressively ran at them, then did it AGAIN. Maybe they wanted him to stop running at them?
@louderthanwordsInclusivity I have since watched the beginning of the video and testimony from the teens at the trial, and they were drunk and had smoked pot. The one filming decided for some crazy reason he thought the older man was weird and declared that the man was looking for girls and called him a pedophile. The whole group started doing the same. The man lost his phone, and they mocked him and called him names. He dropped his phone and they wouldn't let him get his phone. He started to walk away, and the teens intensified their yelling, calling him names and cussing at him. He went back, and one of the girls was yelling in his face and may have pushed him or hit him. He may have hit her. The teens were like a rabbid pack of hyenas after their prey who was weaker than them. He was. He had had open heart surgery. They pushed him down numerous times and even pushed his head under the water. Another group joined them, men in their mid 20s. So he had about ten laughing at him, pushing him down, cussing at him, calling him pedophile and other names. At this point, I would be very scared for my life. He could not physically fight them off. So he pulled out his knife as one of them came at him again.
Hyenas..........
@@triciac1019..He never lost his phone.
Does anyone else NOT believe Madison was punched in the face? I think it's a lie.
Not sure but her husband was very strange on that when asked he would not admit to. Its like they told her to lie and he could not quite go along with it on the stand. The attorney had trouble with him on that. Makes sense now.
This is a tragedy. From what I can make out from the video it looks like a bunch of young men verbally and physically assaulting an elderly man. The man gets knocked to the ground and hit in the face and then he defended himself.
What was he supposed to do let those young men keep physically assaulting him??
She's an odd one.
That's a fact!
She is no nonsense, and cannot be called a drunk, so what can defense accuse her of...
Definitely
@@pinkiesue849 they can accuse her of being an unreliable ex con 3× over, whose testimony doesn't reflect the video at all. I'd start with that.
Angry and odd.
Sober ...ummm probably have a better recall if she was not sober... Honestly making it up as she goes along...!
You wouldn't believe Jesus if he was on the stand
I wouldn't believe an alcoholic didn't drink that day too. She's full of it like the rest of them. She's probably at AA now that she doesn't hang out with them anymore...and trying to whitewash history. She'll go back to her alcoholism if she can't even tell the truth about drinking that day.
The hair dye is a red flag.
Just because you're sober, doesn't mean you can can't lie.
I can only repeat myself: Nothing is more scary than a mob that is turning violent. The accused was completely alone, surrounded and cornered by half-drunks who seemed to be having a lot of "fun". I don't know which way "justice" will go in this case, but Mr. Miu appears to have had pretty good reasons at a certain point to fear for his physical integrity, if not for his life. He could not really "run away", so he did the only thing that was left for him to do: He hit back.
They weren't half-drunk; That was a fully drunk mob.
They've also admitted partaking of the magic herb (and possibly other substances).
Hitting back is completely different to stabbing someone, how would you feel if your teenager was stabbed to death by this man??
I’m not saying that the teenagers weren’t in the wrong, they 100% were, they were pushing this man and one teenager punched him wishing is NOT ok at all, I would go off at my teenager if I saw them do that to someone, however, it still does NOT give Nic the right to stab people.
He could have either walked away or hit back with his fist to the guy that punch him, but definitely not have stabbed people!!!!
No. Wrong.