Never talk to anyone until your lawyer is present. Everything is designed to entrap you. The best defense attorney I know has a simple rule - never ever talk to the police without your lawyer present - ever
I am a LEO and what you stated is the absolute fact. Just say “lawyer.” Keep repeating it if necessary. However, a lot of people feel the need to try and explain too many details and information.
I think Miu's guilty, but I do believe that the 2nd group (especially that Maddie chick) really, really, REALLY escalated all of this. Which is funny (dark funny, morbid irony), as they claimed "oh, we have experience in bars de-escalating things, we can help"
The defendant approached the teens in the river. He grabbed their tube, and he was clearly the aggressor in all of it. It was not self defense, he's a murderer.
Now how about when an older adult male physically assaults a smaller female teenager? Your daughter? Your neighbor? "Only thing for evil to persist is for good people to do nothing." Do you, but maybe not complain.
What is really disturbing to me is, when his friend approached, kids were bleeding in the water yet 911 was not called by the friend when he returned to his group. What kind of people are these?
It also seems he doesn't remember all the bad life threatening decisions he made towards others but yet he remembers every detail in what they did to him. Even if it was a lie. He still remembers only how he was brutally attacked, with no bruising or river rock marks on his body. It's weird how his memory works. He didn't even remember telling his group to leave, but he remembered being afraid of the guy in the forest holding a bat.
Yeah, but Mr.Miu lied about his knife. In the the interrogation video he said he took the knife from one of the kids. Then he ditched his knife after the stabbings & tried to play it off like it was one of the kid’s knives. I don’t think innocent people ditch their weapon like this & lie about it.
@@henlohenlo689 that is not true. You can request an attorney in a situation like this. You do have a right against self incrimination, you do have a right to remain silent. You find yourself in this situation, ask for an attorney. In fact, once you request an attorney, it’s a violation of your rights for them to continue to ask questions.
He knows he's left many living witnesses with his by now signature stab wounds on thier young bodies that are on their way to the hospital to be surgically repaired and will never be able to forget his face .😮This slew of lies removes all credibility . His own group indeed knew he was over with the teens as well. They warned him not to go over there a couple of times. His wife obviously knows he doesn't handle the booze and can become aggressive she wanted him to stay away and knew he'd be of no assistance, finding anything but trouble. The fact that he drank lots was the only truth he told. "I think we all were drinking alot"
He's claiming self defense which is an affirmative defense, he pretty much needs to testify to explain his state of mind and his side of the situation, no?
@@LoudestHoward Yeah, I get that; and considering that all the lying and strategic memory lapses make him look guilty a.f. from the outset he didn't really have any good options, but man was that a $h!t show.
He has lost a lot of weight because he isn't coming home and drinking multiple beers every night like his wife stated he did. He looks healthier here than he did then
The trial is being broadcast for public interest, accuracy and education. All evidence must be shown or all those criteria are defeated. Show all the evidence!!!
He lost my support around 1:14:00 when he straight lied to the cop in cuffs in the squad car saying he didn't see anyone injured and he saw the fight and wasn't involved. He won't be able to recover from and defend that this alone could be the reason he's convicted. You can't stab multiple people and lie about it when it's on video to a cop. Bad move lying.
How can the body cam be used as evidence when at that point he is only being detained? I’m not saying it’s no big deal that he lied but how can it be used in court ?
He’s in shock and scared he may have done something wrong. He’s probably reacting without even thinking. It doesn’t change the altercation in the river. He was attacked and he defended himself. Was it justified? His peers will decide.
Misleading the police after the incident carries little weight, otherwise they would have made it a separate charge. He's on trial for what the state charged him with.
Literally none of that matters when there is a video showing what happened. He was scared no one would believe him and didn’t know there was a video recording to back him up.
As I'm around 40 minutes into watching this video i think it was a bad decision to let him take the stand. Any good lawyer would've told him not to take the stand, unless he insisted on taking the stand.
As potential future jurors, our job is to look beyond BS, including bad performances by defendants whose lives are at stake, and understand the facts of the case, and make a solid decision. For instance, the prosecutor focused on his “anger scale” because the ONLY hope they have to winning is that he was “angry” and started stabbing people. For us, we know that given the mob he was surrounded by, he needed to defend himself after they repeatedly attacked him, especially after calling him names, and that being angry doesn’t wave his right to self defense. What, should he be happy while defending himself? Should be scared? Yes, he should be scared, but you can be angry and scared at the same time.
I Agree. His attorney should not have allowed him to testify. They are masters of taking a testimony, twisting a story/scenario and saying, right? Right?
There's two sides to the story.. and his does fairly make sense.. but I think he was too intoxicated and annoyed that the whole video plays out like he knew exactly what he was doing.
Yes and in the video you can see some spoiled intoxicated kids bullying an old guy that was the same … we need to know how to raise our kids, now they are crying cause they were stabbed , but at the time they were laughing and bullying and hitting a person … so sorry not sorry .. as a mom I would be so mad but honestly they were so wrong and there’s consequences
@@AnaGarcia-cg4yoI agree, they instigated the whole situation and made it worse. If they would have helped the man or asked instead of bullying. Then none of that would have happened.
The physical altercation… it was seconds, not minutes. It’s really nice to sit, removed from all emotion, and break everything down frame by frame.. but that’s not how the brain works. He is, in my opinion, clearly traumatized. This whole thing is awful.
He isn’t traumatized. His demeanor is exactly the same as it was when he attacked those kids. He’s not crying. He’s not sad. He’s not even a little upset. He is just robotic and cold.
@@coleengogerty3852 You're not a psychiatrist to say whether or not someone is upset. He could be traumatized and hate that the incident happened, yet not sit there a bawl like a baby. Just because that's what most women would do doesn't mean he is uncaring.
I have met and worked with a lot of engineers and only met one with a "convenient" bad memory, regardless of their age. Mui is a mechanical engineer. He had time to walk away and not cut up anyone.
I'm surrounded my engineers, and have been for 30 years. You must live in the twilight zone. An engineer's memory is like any other person's memory, some good some bad. Nevertheless, I know from experience that when in a high stress environment, and the adrenaline is surging, a person's memory of detail will not be the same as sitting taking notes in lecture, with a text book with the purpose of memorizing detail.
You dont know if he has any regret.. when your getting charged with murder all you have time for is fighting for your life on trial. It takes everything out of you.. he may have regret and guilt he may just not be showing it bc it will make him look even more guilty and he is putting all his energy in this trial.. He won't ever get to fully process it until trial is over imo.
@@palace927 That was a true case of self defense, and he didn't try to hide from the facts of what happened, in fact, he immediately tried to turn himself in.
They had to after the interrogation video was made available. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse off he’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.
@@CKing-388 this man is pure evil. He intended to go looking for an altercation with these boys. I'm still very confused as to what he was thinking that day. Doesn't seem to be normal behavior but he probably wanted to impress his friends, or just emerge in the News, as a lone man who gets attacked in a river and used self defense. He wanted the fame of something like that, but I'm still wondering what his motives were. None the less, he thought he could get away thinking he did the world a favor by gutting rowdy teenagers. It just amazes me that he thought he was going to be okay and if you notice, he was still raging with anger during sentencing. I was sure he was going to blurt out something towards the Judge. He wanted to do this, he wanted other adults and law enforcement to side with him. He didn't value the boys as humans, they deserved to die, because they were drinking underage and he wanted people to know he exposed their sins. He wanted credit for his efforts of ridding the world of these devalued teenagers, during the trial, you can see his face searching for approval and recognition from lawyers, law enforcement and other adults
@@sallychasen1793Pure evil is raising a bully. Pure evil is making up a story about a person being a "pedo predator" and escalating the situation calling people to join you with bats for "help" 13 against 1.
@@alinalindt4676 Did you see the video, did you watch the trial? Miu lied at every question and even tried to manipulate the Prosecutor's questions. Miu eventually, although it was very painfully slow to watch, admitted to each accusation, but with a much painstaking process, between the attorneys. Miu threw the knife away after the stabbing. I watched this entire trial numerous times to see every detail.....For the life of me, I can't understand what his intent was, he had his hidden agenda, and I'm confused if he was trying to show off for his friends, of what a "versatile average man to defender of knives on the river Hero". I don't fault you for your opinion, but you have to acknowledge his lies on the witness stand and with LT Hart. I really want to to know why he thought he could do this, and walk away to his Jeep. He almost got away. People who are in self defense don't hide from law enforcement and throw the weapons away. Ariel should also face charges for lying to the Jury ,claiming he didn't see anything, when he was standing next to Miu while he gutted the teens. Maybe there's something left over in his head coming out of Romania, that he was conditioned to think killing was somehow okay, or approved of, if you're the adult. That's one point, I noticed that he felt entitled because they were "drunk children ". He thought Madison Coen "should correct the children ". All I know, is he's a VERY odd man with unusual thoughts of who should have rights to drink, use marijuana, or even be on the River. He thought he was the the Ruler of the town. The statement of Madison having "alcohol on her breath "....as if he was in charge and he could judge everyone. Miu has deep raging anger, you could see he was still very mad at sentencing. I'm surprised his wife wasn't butchered at some point in their marriage, she certainly wasn't safe with that man, and never knew it. She seems like a sweet simple woman, her life has been shattered, but probably she's safer now. I could see he had this in his mind, when he took the knife out. The Jury got it right
@arkeam9292 No, unless you go through something like that, you won't know the feelings and adrenaline one is going through. Even innocent people have admitted and sent to prison. You have NO IDEA what he was thinking or feeling.
@@The_ScapeGoat he cleaned the blood off the knife and dumped it... then he put on glasses and a had and returned to his group and acted like nothing happened
When You're forced to use deadly force in self defense, U don't leave. U surrender to cops yourself and any weapon you may of had to use. U don't have to tell Ur story to the cops necessarily.... but U definitely don't lie. U have a right to remain silent.
Prosecutor is a ingnorant idiot defending bullies and their stupidity .MR HUI DIDN'T STARTTHE BS THE WANTABES CAUSED THIS WTF up.This is what is happening today. No respect, No trust Nohonrr No brains!!!
Lol lol there are two people there for a reason to work together !!! This happens EVERYDAY in our courthouses, at the best trials Watch a random trial. Try OJ these are the best of the best and they be whispering the whole trial. Do research before you talk. 😏😘
The defence lawyer must have been scratching his head when Miu responded that his fear level was 1 out of 10, and then crept up to 3 out of 10 just before pulling out a knife.
He flipped the scale and screwed his client. This is what happens when you over coach your client and the client isn’t given the go ahead to just tell it in your own words. He’s over thinking and giving short answers. Just talk and let it out. Unless you are being careful but at this point you should just be speaking in a raw form about what you did and what you saw and what you felt. He can give king answers but he’s trying to be calculated and that comes across as deception
@@mgmarrow agreed...I think the judge messed it up by gatekeeping the video and not freely giving it to the jury. Hoping for a mistrial on those grounds. We can defend ourselves from any and all physical threats.
@@mgmarrow What videos are you guys watching? Because from what I've seen it's clearly Miu who starts the altercation and is the first to get physical.
Agreed. If the kids would have just shut up and listened amd helped instead of whooping around like drunken monkeys and attacking the guy, then nobody would have been hurt. Parents need to raise their children better and teach common decency again.
@@houhou71or maybe if he would have just waited a few minutes for them to float passed and clear the area, not invaded their personal space, accused them of stealing his phone, assaulted a girl, oh and probably if he wouldn’t have brought that knife to confront them dam rowdy kids.. and him being drunk probably didn’t help his decision making, I guess he’s not a responsible adult, and he’s obviously not a reasonable person but at least he doesn’t have anger issues, he stabs multiple kids that were minding their own business until he barged in and planted himself in a perfect scenario to unleash all that built up suppressed anger while he’s drunk and found a group of kids having to much fun minding their own business.. yep but he’s the victim.. you people are sick. And you just heard all the same evidence and testimony that I did.. what is wrong with your comprehension skills, probably just your biases but really?
He knows that now. Like everyone who's ever made this mistake. I've made this mistake twice, though both times it was the only way to introduce evidence they were trying to block. Twice. Both times sucked and didn't go the way I thought it would. You only think you can. Even a second rate prosecutor can talk circles around an average person. Because the average person isn't all that intelligent.
If the lawyers advised the defendant not to take the stand why did he do so because he's not looking good. He either has a very bad memory or was seriously drunk.
I have no idea why people are siding with this guy. Those kids didn't go to him, he went to them. How about let them float by and then look for the phone.
He was most likely worried the kids stole the phone or would I they stumbled on it first but doesn't want to say so. That doesn't make him guilty. I'll bet you've never been in a scary situation involving a mob or your life and it shows.
Doesn’t matter. The kids are the ones who pushed him down in the water, and punched him in the face. He’s allowed to wander around in the water, looking for whatever he was looking for. The kids escalated everything and started the violence first.
How many times have you done something wrong and tried to deny it? I’m sure everyone has at one point or another. Who knows what each of us would have done in that same situation.
Most tube river floats are like that, you are stuck on the river until you get to the end point where you either catch a shuttle back to your car, or you had a shuttle that drops you off further up the river and you float back to where your car is. It’s a day float… most of the river goes thru the woods and most is not accessible to just “walk out”. His wife stated in her testimony they were just quiet finishing the float.. but I doubt they knew at that time that a kid died or he did that much physical damage.
Let’s be honest here. This is a case of “when assholes collide”. Throw in alcohol and other intoxicants, and this whole ordeal was just a shit show waiting to happen. I think he was near the kids looking for the phone and they got an attitude with him. They felt like being assholes to some older guy and eventually he thought they were possibly holding the phone to fuck with him. He wasn’t sure if their behavior was locker room behavior or intentional so he kinda messed around by flipping their tubes around. They got up and everyone started surrounding him, taunting him, and bullying him. Of course he could have walked away, but if you watch the video they essentially keep trailing behind him as if he’s trespassing. He appeared to be grabbed by a couple people and ended up hitting that girl. You don’t see her be “hit”. At that point he’s shoved into the water and assaulted. That is when it appears that he starts stabbing anyone who comes up on him. Again, alcohol really played a role in this whole saga and is a clear example of why alcohol is truly one of the worst examples of a drug you can intake in public. Nothing good comes from it. No one is innocent here.
Yeah, this is pretty much it. What sucks is if he hadn't dropped his snorkle and goggles, I'll bet he would have moved on pretty quickly. He came into the area because he thought the phone might have been there and maybe the kids had it to mess with him, but he didn't want to leave because he knew his goggles and snorkle were there.
Sad part is when I read these comments every one thinks he did this in self defense,but the defendant himself knew at the time that he was not acting in his defense, hence his actions like getting rid of the weapon, not approaching police forces , lying to deputes about the incident. Makes me wonder what kind of people are here!!😢
This is actually correct - if this was a straight forward fight for survival - you would want to tell everyone what happened and to ask for help to be saved and you would want to get authorities to capture and detain your attackers.
It's called fear of going to jail, because he knows he stabbed people. He was trying to avoid the potential. We have no idea whether it was because he was truly trying to hurt people or because he was defending himself. It's common behavior, if not honorable behavior for someone to fear when they kill someone even if they did it in self-defense.
Literally none of that matters when there is a video showing what happened. He was scared no one would believe him and didn’t know there was a video recording to back him up.
He keeps forgetting that his narrative is that he was terrified. He repeatedly describes his feelings during the incident as “annoyed and frustrated” Showing his true colors- an idiot liar and a senseless murderer.
Horrible individual...He went to their tubes to instigate a situation where he could eventually stab them, because he was angry at them for drinking...He also thinks he is very savy at the first part of the prosecution, he gets slowly taken down to the liar he is. He wanted a situation, he caused one , so he could come out of it with a self defense plea. Unfortunately for him , someone filmed him killing people
@@marklittler784 he's a pathological liar. His accent should be long gone, his twin brother doesn't act like that. He's 54, and came here as a young teen, he needs to drop the charade. He's playing stupid and fragile and he's anything but. Remember he has nearly 2 Masters Degrees, all the "stupid" is acts of manipulation . Remember, he went to college for a very long time, and has been in the USA the biggest majority of his life. Watch him during the prosecution, before they ask him what his injuries were, he starts with tongue/cheek movement, so he'll be ready for the question. Then, when asked about the width of the river, he catches himself again, because he let it out that his group was 100ft (then he catches himself) from the boys. Miu deliberately went to get a confrontation going, he just wasn't socially savvy enough to realize everyone has cameras these days. Miu thinks his stupidity of saying "I don't remember that conversation " will just get him right out of trouble. He got 20 years, should have gotten 80, but he lost the trial, his job, his income, his house, his wife, and his dog...plus all the respect of his friends and peers. He'll never be employed again, and I hope his stay in prison is super miserable for him.
@@boomnews815there is reasonable action to retreat when the facts are presented. It’s not just ‘you don’t gotta retreat, and standing your ground is not law’. That’s dumb. They’ve defined reasonable self defense requirements. The main debate is the level of deliberate culpability on the suspect, which that burden of proof has been lowered with the addition of lesser charges. 1st and 2nd degree negligent homicide (attempted as well) and disregard for human life is within the jury rules.
It's not stand your ground but there's also no duty to retreat. This prosecutor might have been able to prove aggravated manslaughter but he's drowning under murder one. He's never going to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense because what leads up to the point where they shark attack this guy is irrelevant to whether or not he was justified in defending himself. This defense lawyer is smart enough to convince the jury of that and this prosecutor is an idiot.
@@tomsanger5548not the first act. The first act was the females putting their hands on him. And when the one female continuously pulled his arm. It may not be severe but still, you can not touch people you don’t know without permission.
Exactly he saw they had a phone in one of their necklaces and he lunged at them thinking it was his friends phone plus them making fun of him definitely hurt his ego so he was mad
@@angiejorahthe older man should have walked away from that culture not jump into the middle of it with a knife. As an older man, that’s what I would do, not go to prison for the rest of my short life. But hey, you do you.
@@Ivan.A.Churlyuski If only Madison and the other screaming woman who put their hands on him wouldn't have blocked his path back to his group. He tried walking away. The mob was out to get him no matter what. Mui had no choice and had to defend himself. Enjoy seeing an innocent man go to prison for the rest of his life for self-defense against 12 drunk and high screaming and laughing people. I wonder how long and how many of them would have kept punching him while he was down had he not defended himself. 2 women and 4 or 5 of the men put their hands on him before he stabbed anyone. Fact.
The jury is very interesting. 7 men and 5 women. Two people in there 20s and one age 90+. Quite a variety. Yes, it only takes on for a hung jury, then it starts all over. But probably the prosecutor would start off with lesser charges than 1st degree. But Mui has already been in jail two years, would they reduce his bond?
True but most old people are agreeing and only 2 of the jurors are under their 40s. Old people are much more experienced in life and aren’t stupid enough to believe those teens were in fear or felt danger but were the aggressors. Really the women took it to the next level and they were adults but still young and stupid.
It’s as if those trying to act like “he started it” didn’t watch the video or some sht…it’s clear those “kids” instigated this and the woman turned it physical.
That’s literally the prosecution’s only hard evidence. They gotta make every frame count if they wanna get this man charged with 1st degree murder. Grasping for straws for sure
Yeah because in a murder trial, you don’t want to slow the video down to show when he pulled his knife out and when he murdered someone. It just doesn’t happen that way. You have to play the video at full speed. That’s the most unintelligent ignorant remark I’ve seen yet.
His memory is incredibly selective. Goes away when it's inconvenient, comes back when it IS convenient, and FILLED with false memories aka LIES. Also, he NEVER mentioned being strangled because his LAWYERS came up with that lie. The 3-part picture of the victim "strangling" him, was literally at the time he was murdering the kid.
@angiejorah - Didn't you wonder why the 17 year old's body & Miu's hands were blocked off in that 3-part picture that SUPPOSEDLY proved he was being strangled by the 17-year old??? It was because Miu was stabbing him to death AT THAT MOMENT!!! You can tell because you see that Riley in the background has already been stabbed. That's why her mouth is open like she's screaming and she's looking down at her side. What would YOU do?? Just stand there? Miu had ALREADY punched Maddie, stabbed Riley, and one other person. This poor kid just tried to push this psycho away and got killed for his actions. In fact, NO ONE had assaulted Miu in ANY way before he started attacking everyone! Miu also took his knife out LONG before he began the attack, just hoping someone would provide a justification for him to start stabbing. When they didn't, he punched Maddie, and started stabbing everyone. He did not know there would be video. You have to watch the whole video. In addition, at least 3 out the 5 or 6 people he attacked, didn't touch him aggressively in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER (before or after his attack), including the first 2 people he attacked. So NOTHING was self-defense for Miu. But for anyone who did punch or push Miu, that was obviously self-defense because he was stabbing everyone. And since Miu was the first person to physically attack anyone, it's actually the victims that are defending themselves, as much as they can by pushing him away or punching him. His defense team did a great job muddying the waters by cherry picking moments in the video where Miu was either "assaulted" or the "victim" an apparent assault. They didn't SAY the instances were BEFORE Miu started attacking everyone, they just let you assume it. The problem was, people only started pushing / punching Miu when Miu began stabbing everybody. Miu came over to them, refused to leave, initiated the violence, then took it up 100 knots. Then he casually left like he could have at any other time.
@@wvrjl If you watch the video at .25 you don't see Rylee stabbed until after Mui got up from being pushed into the water, slapped, and punched. Rylee and Madison had their hands all over Mui. He didn't punch Madison. Madison lied and said she had pics of her face. The police are able to recover deleted pictures. The picture never happened. The drunk and high mob say that to justify attacking him in the 1st place. All of the people who got stabbed punched, slapped, had their hands on him, prevented him from leaving and tried to push him under the water. 100% Self-Defense against a drunk and high mob.
Why do people keep saying this lol, it shows the jury he's not a redneck killer like zoomers portray him to be, he's a feeble ethnic migrant of an old man who was defending himself
Shall I point out this guy didn’t just STAB. He did maximum damage on PURPOSE. He KNOWS how to fight. He twisted and dragged the knife in them. I’d bet money this guy is a trained ex military or private militia from Eastern Europe/Ukraine/Russia…. and let’s not forget there’s been on and off fighting and now war. This guy is playing dumb. He knew exactly what he was doing. Nobody was gonna insult HIM. He’s guilty of murder and attempted murder. He deserves life, no parole. At the least. He’s a liar.
1:14:16 THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS to Plea the 5th!!! He should have said “I’m not answering questions I’ll have to speak to an attorney” but because he was nervous and obviously didn’t want to say “I stabbed people in self defense” cause you’re still admitting to stabbing 😱 and that’s never gonna look good. Now he’s caught in a lie on tape saying “I heard about it” when he knows 100% he was the stabber
He won’t even admit to that being him in the video . Wow. Too much lies. At least be a little remorseful. You hurt people badly. Took a life. Like damn. He deserves some time for sure. I get they were talking shit but you ran up. You wanted to fight. “Kids being kids” as he clutched his hands together. GUILTY.
That was not a stumble. The guy is a liar. He lied to the police about everything that happened from the moment the police made contact with him that day.
Ive been jumped by 7 people once. You just react. You do not see faces just shapes and the sounds are unrecognizable. Easy to say should of could of would of. When you're not the one getting smacked around.
for real all these people who have never been surrounded and physically assualted (or even just taunted and pushed around if you want to minimize it) they have no idea what its like and they say they would have reacted calmy and just let the berating happen bro people literally have no empathy and im starting to notice its the ones who are always claiming to be the most socially conscientious etc
This man was not ambushed or jumped. This man initiated a confrontation. This man used a concealed knife. This man is refusing to answer the questions. His smile is evil and he claims “I’m not smiling” it is a sneering.
You can see why kids were weirded out ,when he thought they had cell phone he bull rushed them them, pulled on their tubes basicially not bothering him til he messed with them
@@Cynt12345 I'm a United States Marine. I've been trained to defend myself from perceived or real physical threats. I have that legal right. You can be a victim all you want. You have the pleasure of casually observing this situation from the comfort of your home. I'd love to see your reaction if in the water and surrounded by 13 angry intoxicated young people that were pushing you into the water, hitting you while accusing you of being a pedo.
Nah. I think you're incredibly incorrect and borderline stupid. He got the defendant to admit to lying multiple times in under an hour and overall he seems angry, temperamental, untrustworthy and violent. That's the mark of a great prosecutor.
no, that is your opinion, you cannot assume your opinion is everybody else's opinion, you are not in my head nor the other people here watching the trial & commenting. I actually think the Prosecution did a very good job, I also think the Defence did quite well, Miu, in my opinion failed miserably & the Prosecutor did a great job, exposing him & the lies, he doesn't remember but admits these things happen, he just doesn't remember them. This is not a football game, it's a stabbing, killing on the Apple river on a sunny afternoon. You don't know the person, neither do, I however do have an opinion about carrying weapons, why did he walk away leaving 1 person dead, another almost dead, and other stabbed victims, he left a trail of blood, death & chaos? Now it's up to the Legal team to unfold the events of that day & the Jury to decide whether the evidence proves guilt, innocence or a hung jury, it's the Defence's job, no matter whether the defendant is guilty or innocent, they have an obligation to defend their client, to the best of their ability, they are doing a marvellous job, they are both doing a great job.
The teens were not victims. They were taunting, malicious, instigating, unhinged lunatics who pushed an older man into the water and punched his face and then tried to hold him down in the water. The kids were instigating the WHOLE time
At first i thought he was in the wrong, butno I fully believe that both sides were wrong and he maybe felt threatened by all these young men and the outcome was tragic...This is what happens when you to act big and bad to look cool for your friends..sad outcome either way
Regardless of who started it, he went for the kill. He didn't show them his knife, announce he had one, or command them to get back. He used lethal kill shots against unarmed young people, even young women, and didn't even try to leave when he had his entire back in the clear. For that he is guilty according to state law.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how many people are now defending a guy who disemboweled a seventeen year old, stabbed a tiny teenage girl, and murdered another kid. What the fuck is happening to peoples' brains? How is everyone turning into an absolute soulless sociopath?
Right? I'm so confused. Like it's FIVE people he stabbed. How can that be defendable by so many people. I could see it differently if it was one person and he retreated. But he attacked all of them violently with deadly force. Yes he was threatened and everyone was in the wrong but that doesn't absolve him of this act of insanity. People defending him and completely villainizing the teens/young adults have some messed up logic.
@@millie663"He attacked all of them." So, they were just lying around, lounging on the sand and he walked up and attacked them? Is that what you're implying?
After he was detained he literally said he saw people yelling and fighting but didnt see anyone injured and doesnt know whats going on even though he just stabbed 5 people and kill 1? thats what innocent people say right?
@@dwizzle2132 He knows he fucked up, but thats what a person who knows he might face a long time in jail might say, not necesserally guilty. The action happened, he stabbed people... being judged as self defense is really difficult... that guy making fun of him filming was his best chance of getting a fair trail and they didn't know it, neither did him. How people can't put themselves in others peoples shoes always surprises me... like a lack of perspective.
I've seen the full video. It's out there on shock sites. The guy on trial looked out of his mind. But its obvious the recording was started and happening after some other altercation had already occurred. The guy was about to leave or quit, until the second group showed up and attacked him.
@@celticwarrior777Try "Kaotic" or "The YNC". But a word of caution. There's some very, very bad stuff on both of these sites. Everything that happened to these kids is like watching an episode of Sesame Street compared to some of the horrific things I've seen on both of these sites. So heads up!
Think about it. The guy managed to gut another full grown adult, nearly gutted a female who was in the hospital for a month, stabbed two other people, and managed to kill Isaac. Nobody knew he had a knife and there's no confirmed serious injuries and the only thing he complained about was his butt hurting. Later, he claimed his throat did but never said that anyone until today.
Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek...wow, now I understand why it's such an important thing for us to do... turn the other cheek when you are surrounded by a mob of people acting like this.
@@williamphillips2239are you saying he couldn’t evaluate the situation, see he was out numbered and make moves to evac? That goes against logic he was being pulled away refused the out and chose to stand up to people he himself refers to kids. Everyone there that day was drunk and lacked common faculties. I don’t feel bad for him if he’s convicted. If he isn’t that’s fine too. At the end of the day his choice may have not cost him his life but he’s ruined what’s left of it.
I love how when prosecutors are questioning him, frame by frame, they act like this is how the incident played out… And slow motion and in a frame by frame timing. This all happened so fast with hands flying at him, different people in his face, and very chaotic, and he supposed to know who’s touching him and anticipate who’s going to do what to him next. This didn’t happen in slow motion. It happened very fast and you have adrenaline running and are just trying to get people away from you. I can picture myself in that situation and I hope the jury does too. You have to put yourself in the situation to even halfway try to understand what he may have been feeling. That’s what empathy is. Putting putting yourself in somebody else’s shoes.
This is one of the most sensible comments I’ve seen. People saying he could have walked away, he did start walking away and the kids started coming up behind him. They show the frame in another video where one of the kids is testifying. He’s got his back to them walking away and the one in purple shorts and the one in blue are closing the distance between them and him getting closer following him & yelling with their arms up. It looks like the one on purple was within reach from where when he originally turned his back 10-15 feet away.
I would have assumed those kids were going to drown me. They were behaving like a mob. I don’t blame Miu for reacting, but he shouldn’t have used the knife.
yeah this applies to the teens being stabbed to death and gutted too FYI. clearly you cant picture yourself in the teenagers situation coz id have been freaked out by this weirdo...if i was in that position. and i wouldnt dive into the middle of them and start pushing their property while saying NOTHING so i guess i cant imagine myself in this guys situation because im not as retarded to ever put myself in this situation.
I feel the same way.. things happened so fast and the yelling and pushing him, he was in midst of a bunch of drunk teenagers and who knew what was going to happen next? I feel for the guy bc he was minding his own business when they all appeared and started the whole thing and then it escalated.. smh
Late to the part, the noise is whitenoise. In courts, they play this in the room so no one can hear the discussion between lawyers and judges. It is kept in the recording so listeners are aware the audio is ok and that it has not been lost. Background: I use to be a court AV technician for 10 years
this is wisconsin self defense law "A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself."
TURE and with that law in place hee would be found guilty..He A started the interaction. B started the fight. C he used force on two individual who was not showing him physical threat.
1:17:12 The lies NEVER stop with this guy. Why doesn’t the prosecutor say here: “You are lying when you act oblivious to the cops, aren’t you?” Then press him on the lies.
The video speaks for itself for the jury. His reputation is in tatters. Shows him clearly and calmly lying to the cops and trying to save his own skin.
He clearly lies to the cops to try to get away without having to explain himself and risk getting arrested and charged. That alone doesn't make him guilty of murder, however, and the video evidence of the fight shows good grounds for a self-defense ruling. It does seem like he should be charged with evidence tampering, fleeing the scene, and lying to an peace officer.
You realize everyone in this case is lying and it's like 10+ delinquents lying and fabricating details like "he was looking for little girls", etc against him. Do you hear the tone of the prosecutor? He's pressing and gaslighting him as his job is to make Nicolae look guilty in anyway possible, and he's saying shit like "lies on top of lies" "that's a detail you added for your benefit", etc. If there wasn't a video of the incident he would have been immediately tried for first degree murder because all of the delinquents at the scene would have testified against him. There would be no trace of him being pushed down and mobbed on, etc. This wasn't murder and people who think it was are as high as the kids in the video.
@@everydaysamething You’re drunk, then. He brought a knife into their space and when they told him to leave he started stabbing them. He assaulted the girl first, and he made the first contact on the guys in the tubes when he first approached. When they asked him what he was doing he stayed silent and so they called him names. “Sticks & Stones will break your bones but Knives will disembowel you….” The only ground to stand was the teenager’s.
@@scottbaxendale323 I'm going to assume you didn't watch the video. He didn't start stabbing them when they said to leave. He stabbed them only after they pushed him down into the water and started hitting and shoving him multiple times. This is from a crowd of 10+ people who have been yelling at him and closing in on him over the last few minutes. That is a mob, and a mob doesn't need a knife to kill someone, so yes, he had plenty of reason to think his life might be in danger.
Of course he remember! Those boys and women who stand as witness are ones can't remember most of the incidents. All of them, they change their story after they talk to each other and after the prosecution talked to them. ALL OF THEM.
If I was a juror I couldn't convict him of 1st DEGREE MURDER. The state overcharged him. A not-guilty verdict does not mean that the defendant is innocent, but rather that the prosecution has not met its burden of proving guilt. Innocent, on the other hand, refers to the actual state of the defendant. It means that the defendant did not commit the crime they are being accused of.
You also didn’t watch any details except the ones you want. Each council can present lesser charges, and they did. So he will be convicted of the lesser charges, especially because the defense agreed with a few and already contested a few more
Agreed. I feel bad for this man. It's terrible all that took place and the young man had to lose his life as a result. It's just sad all the way around.
Its sickening that anyone would defend this guy's actions. He absolutely did commit the crimes he's accused of, the video evidence doesn't lie. He's literally sitting here admitting his own guilt word after word, and you're just defending his depravity.
I’m so fallible. I watched the defense earlier and said he was being unjustifiably convicted. Now I watch this, and my opinion has changed. Don’t believe anything before you have the full story. Lesson learned for me.
Humility has to be one of the best human traits - it's so refreshing to see such a self-aware person out here. Could not agree with you more Paul, this is a good reminder how fickle our perspectives can be
I watched the whole trial. It is very sad day for justice since a man who defended himself against a drunken mob is going to prison for the rest of his life. He should be home with his family.
58:00 It appears Mr. Miu has a speech processing disorder. I also freeze and become non-verbal when I am afraid. It must be rare to become non-verbal because no one else is noticing how much he struggles to give complete answers the questions. He doesn't defend himself as other people would do in his situation. ...this is most unfortunate for him.
@@jmtoch1266he knows 5 but it’s definitely not his “fifth.” there isn’t any sort of information out that would make your comment a real fact. plus i know it’s not true since we can hear that his english is pretttttty good, just has an accent
How convenient he doesn’t remember any of the lies he told but anything that helps his case he can recall. That’s not suspect at all. Lies are hard to keep track of but the truth is always easy to remember.
I really feel for this man. Those young alcohol fuelled people provoked, taunted and abused him in a disgusting manor. You wouldn’t treat a dog like that.
In Court saying " I don't remember" is only way to 100% protect one from a perjury charge. It's standard procedure response. Or pleasing the fifth which does not always make one look innocent.
Did you watch this whole video? He ran up to the kid in the inner tube and started touching him and the kids saying whoa, whoa. None of those kids knew what his intentions were and that he was thinking the kid in the tube had his phone.
he had a knife in his pocket while river rafting, pulled his knife out before any violence even happened in front of two women to say the least. watch the whole video next time bud
@@shannonhart9374 Jury Dropped the Ball... The man was attacked by a group of Drunk, High on Drugs punks, ''Did you take any of that into consideration? ''Obviously Not''
After watching the police camera where he's lying about not knowing nothing that's going on is not a black out or shock. He's trying to get out of the shit he caused.
He is a lier and if there was no video of the stabbing, he would have escaped the police. His anger flared up during the questioning. He has to control his reactions. He didn’t look sorry one bit when he looked at the video of the stabbing. He looked intensely at his handy work. He is full of shit.
@@anne-michelefortmann5246 He's guilty of lying and defending himself. Can we agree o that? We should not trust anything he says. Everyone else clearly lied. We should not trust anything they say either. We just have to look at the video. And in the video everyone is harassing him, surrounding him, he's not looking for little girls or hurting anyone and just wants to look for his stuff, he gets touched, yelled at, and he takes out a pocket knife and as he's being knocked down over and over he stabs people because he wants them to get away and stop. Unfortunately someone dies. I don't think he even wanted to kill anyone, I didn't even know until now that a pocket knife like that could kill people, I thought that's why there's limits to their sizes.
@@anne-michelefortmann5246 Nonsense. It’s the exact opposite - if there was no video, this would have been a slam dunk case for the prosecution, which is exactly why Nic lied in the beginning out of pure fear that he’d never be believed with the full truth. It was his word against a Lord of the Flies mob of 13’s word, and they were already lying about him from the beginning with all the horrendous accusations they made against him and names they called him. Luckily the chump that started all of this (Cockfield) filmed it “for the culture,” which vindicates Nic acting in self defense. P.S. The word is spelled “liar,” kid. Not “lier.”
@@anne-michelefortmann5246 That’s absurd. It’s the exact opposite of your claim- if there was no video, this would have been a slam dunk case for the prosecution, which is exactly why Nic lied in the beginning out of pure fear that he’d never be believed with the full truth. It was Nic’s word against the mob of 13’s word, and they were already lying about him from the beginning with all the horrendous name calling and accusations they made against him - things that are the worst you can ever call a man or say about a man. Luckily the arse that started all of this (Cockfield) filmed it “for the culture,” which vindicates Nic acting in self defense. And there was no “anger flaring up” in Nic’s testimony here. Why are YOU fibbing so much?? By the way, the word is spelled “liar,” kid. Not “lier.”
It's cause he's clearly an alcoholic & easily lost weight while not being able to drink. One of the first things he said to the interrogator was, "I've been drinking all day with no water"
After watching, and rewatching most of the videos in this case, I've learned that pretty much everyone involved are all incredible liars. Even with video evidence they continue to spread manure. Incredible.
Cooked at 56:05 - lied to the officer saying they pulled a knife on him, now on the stand - no one pulled a knife on him. He made the first attack by pushing the chick screaming at him, while he had a knife in his hand!!!!! Her friend defended her by punching him, he falls down, gets slapped maybe one more time and pushed back down - he proceeds to stab 5 people, kills one of them, guts another one - sorry, that's not self defense - that's anger and by the way, where did he learn how to kill like that with a pocket knife!?!? What, is he a Green Beret or something?!!?
I totally lost all sympothy when seen the video of him telling cops he heard someone got stabbed n he heard he matched description. He wasnt honest bout it when confronted at first .Shows guilt
@@BubbieDesaihe wasn’t scared. He didn’t show fear when he made zero effort to leave those kids alone. He wasn’t scared when he pulled a concealed weapon and went after the the girl when she had backed away and stabbed her so bad he drove the blade all the way into her. He wasn’t scared after he stabbed her cuz he continued to stab 4 more people even though he was outnumbered. He stabbed all those kids, walked back to his group and proceeded to continue down the river. Scared would be running out of that river and hiding. Not acting like he did nothing wrong. He’s absolutely mental.
How? He broke the scene down second by second, frame by frame, and discredited almost everything Mr.Miu said to the police and investigators. He’s playing chess not checkers.
The forensic nurse who examined Mr. Mui said he was on a drug for PTSD. His over-reaction to this threat suggests he may have had a situation similar to this earlier in his life. Was he a soldier? Events as a child in Romania? This event triggered his extreme violence that seems totally out of proportion to the threat.
Over reaction to getting attacked by a group of strong drunk males? I assure you , if you were in that situation you wouldn’t think of defending yourself as an overreaction.
I believe him. They all thought they were tough guys and mouthy girls/women. No of them had any right to get up in his face, throw slurs or pit their hands on him. They saw him as an easy target to look like tough guys. It it so unfortunate for the one who died. With all the cheering name calling and them surrounding him I truly believe he feared for his life/safety. The video speaks for itself. And he remembers as much as those that were bullying him. They were all laughing until he fought back I can understand how he couldn't possibly remember everything after 7 or more people were up in his face. I hope he is found innocent.
He's not guilty. Anybody with eyes and ears can watch the video and see that. Hopefully he sues the state for false imprisonment and sues the kids for assault.
I missed a couple of witness testimonies but if I was on the jury, I’d find Mr Miu guilty. Not sure which charge but he chose to show bravado instead of walking away. Kids were punks though. Shameful!!
@@staymadcheaters5066 He admitted to "I stood my ground" in a non stand your ground state & said he pushed Maddie & that was after he had the knife out with the blade open.
Come what may with this case. He lied on his statement about the knife when he was first interviewed. What happened later, should never have ended in. one dead ,one disembowelled and others cut. Its a terrible tragedy from a bruised ego. He's also ex military and knew how to handle himself. He actually demonstrated that at his interview, although he said it wasn't his knife at that time.
She was part in causing a nuisance, and a nuisance it would have stayed, if not for other people. Many were in the wrong. One killed someone. Let me guess, you have been annoying to someone, at some point in your life. I sure have. Luckily this guy wasn't there to start stabbing people.
You are totally right. If the justice system were fair, she should have been the one in jail. I’m sorry for this man; he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got surrounded by a bunch of punks and a Karen. The fact that everything started with them calling him a creep is enough to know that these were a bunch of social media-influenced idiots.
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Never talk to anyone until your lawyer is present. Everything is designed to entrap you. The best defense attorney I know has a simple rule - never ever talk to the police without your lawyer present - ever
Is it Bruce rivers lol
Well a lot of these folks don’t watch RUclips let alone read the comment section. They are clueless 😜.
I am a LEO and what you stated is the absolute fact. Just say “lawyer.” Keep repeating it if necessary. However, a lot of people feel the need to try and explain too many details and information.
@@MaisyMimiyes that is my lawyer. Retainer is high but worth every penny!
This is absolutely NOT ‘entrapment.’ Not even close to what entrapment means.
Nothing would have happened if people would just mind their own business!!
Exactly
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Miu is a guilty murderer.
I think Miu's guilty, but I do believe that the 2nd group (especially that Maddie chick) really, really, REALLY escalated all of this. Which is funny (dark funny, morbid irony), as they claimed "oh, we have experience in bars de-escalating things, we can help"
since we all know, that’s not human nature so kind of ridiculous to say.
Regardless of where you stand on this trial one thing is for sure. This is a clear lesson in why everyone needs to mind their own damn business.
Ain’t this the dam truth..!!!!!!!!!
And not to be rude to others
Agreed, except to intervene in a crime that is taking place.
The defendant approached the teens in the river. He grabbed their tube, and he was clearly the aggressor in all of it. It was not self defense, he's a murderer.
Now how about when an older adult male physically assaults a smaller female teenager? Your daughter? Your neighbor? "Only thing for evil to persist is for good people to do nothing." Do you, but maybe not complain.
What is really disturbing to me is, when his friend approached, kids were bleeding in the water yet 911 was not called by the friend when he returned to his group. What kind of people are these?
EXACTLY! Miu also has no problem recognizing his friend in the water, when he supposedly "couldn't see anything"
It also seems he doesn't remember all the bad life threatening decisions he made towards others but yet he remembers every detail in what they did to him. Even if it was a lie. He still remembers only how he was brutally attacked, with no bruising or river rock marks on his body. It's weird how his memory works. He didn't even remember telling his group to leave, but he remembered being afraid of the guy in the forest holding a bat.
@@motogem1408 Exactly
I didn't like how this asshole acted after and kept lying.
@@motogem1408he picked and chose what to remember if it fit his defense narrative
Everyone talking about him lying, but so far every single person who has been called to the stand that was involved in the incident has lied.
Including him
@@Lilmsjaymo well yeah, I said every person called to the stand...
Some people don’t know how to read…
@@lacyrussell6688 lmao right.
Yeah, but Mr.Miu lied about his knife. In the the interrogation video he said he took the knife from one of the kids. Then he ditched his knife after the stabbings & tried to play it off like it was one of the kid’s knives. I don’t think innocent people ditch their weapon like this & lie about it.
I have followed quite a few trials like this in the past couple of years. What I have learned: The state is not your friend.
No kidding! You are their suspect they are there to specifically put you in jail.
Yay! We’re learning precedent!
Why should the prosecution be your friend that's the dumbest statement I've heard in awhile they're trying to convince a jury of what you did
STOP defending dumb teenagers. They harmed him FIRST.
@@sistermaryfrances4480 I'm guessing you support every war they push at you, right?
This is a perfect example of why you never talk to police. Whether you're guilty or not.
He forgot that he didn’t remember
Guy looks like Neagan of the walking dead.
that's bad advise because it can add charges of obstruction which is illegal. should just obey cops and answer easy questions.
@@henlohenlo689 that is not true. You can request an attorney in a situation like this. You do have a right against self incrimination, you do have a right to remain silent. You find yourself in this situation, ask for an attorney. In fact, once you request an attorney, it’s a violation of your rights for them to continue to ask questions.
they led him to believe he could have one but not til Monday. Shocking@@Peyton-bv1nn
That confession in the car where he says he thought a fight happened but wasn’t involved… mind blowing. 🤯
Veterans call this " Tunnel Vision" .... Mind Processing things under - pressure.
@@ImaJWalker this isn’t tunnel vision. This is outright LYING. 🤦🏻♀️
Yeah dude thought he'd get away with stabbing a bunch of people on camera. Total psycho.
Yet thats not what happened ffs@@batmanwins5701
He knows he's left many living witnesses with his by now signature stab wounds on thier young bodies that are on their way to the hospital to be surgically repaired and will never be able to forget his face .😮This slew of lies removes all credibility . His own group indeed knew he was over with the teens as well. They warned him not to go over there a couple of times. His wife obviously knows he doesn't handle the booze and can become aggressive she wanted him to stay away and knew he'd be of no assistance, finding anything but trouble. The fact that he drank lots was the only truth he told. "I think we all were drinking alot"
This guy's attorney should never have let him testify. Holy crap that was a train wreck for the defense.
It was his decision.
He's claiming self defense which is an affirmative defense, he pretty much needs to testify to explain his state of mind and his side of the situation, no?
@@LoudestHoward Yeah, I get that; and considering that all the lying and strategic memory lapses make him look guilty a.f. from the outset he didn't really have any good options, but man was that a $h!t show.
Yes after seeing the interrogation I knew he would not come across well on the stand I was shocked to see he testified.
Brain damage from alcohol and pharmaceutical drugs. 💉💊🙃😶🫥😑😥
Every single person has lied in this case
Exactly
😂😂😂😂
They were drunk and they don't remember.
the camera never lies
It’s been 2 years and they’d all been drinking
He has aged a lot in 2 years,stress is killing him.
I agree
He lost a lot of weight from being in jail
He has lost a lot of weight because he isn't coming home and drinking multiple beers every night like his wife stated he did. He looks healthier here than he did then
And he lost a lot of weight
He looks better imo. Thin and fit as opposed to fat.
Prosecutors aren't about finding the truth, they're about manipulating facts to win their case.
To be fair thats what Defense attorneys like to do too
Only old angry people agree with you 😂
@@beckyg.9087 and people with common sense.
@@banjax80Or those who have seen both sides of the system.
And nobody agrees with you lmao@@beckyg.9087
Why isn’t the cameraman showing the video? So annoying!
@@JackFromWyomingNo. It's because it's too gruesome
@@kathleenclark815Speak for yourself
It’s on RUclips
Not as annoying as the prosecution whispering 😂
The trial is being broadcast for public interest, accuracy and education. All evidence must be shown or all those criteria are defeated.
Show all the evidence!!!
He lost my support around 1:14:00 when he straight lied to the cop in cuffs in the squad car saying he didn't see anyone injured and he saw the fight and wasn't involved. He won't be able to recover from and defend that this alone could be the reason he's convicted. You can't stab multiple people and lie about it when it's on video to a cop. Bad move lying.
How can the body cam be used as evidence when at that point he is only being detained? I’m not saying it’s no big deal that he lied but how can it be used in court ?
@@sarazink2237they dont have to read miranda immediately
He’s in shock and scared he may have done something wrong. He’s probably reacting without even thinking. It doesn’t change the altercation in the river. He was attacked and he defended himself. Was it justified? His peers will decide.
Misleading the police after the incident carries little weight, otherwise they would have made it a separate charge. He's on trial for what the state charged him with.
Literally none of that matters when there is a video showing what happened. He was scared no one would believe him and didn’t know there was a video recording to back him up.
As I'm around 40 minutes into watching this video i think it was a bad decision to let him take the stand. Any good lawyer would've told him not to take the stand, unless he insisted on taking the stand.
He only says I don't remember and he still got exposed for lying
Defendant's should never take the stand. Your attorney will tell u that. Some just insist on telling their story.
As potential future jurors, our job is to look beyond BS, including bad performances by defendants whose lives are at stake, and understand the facts of the case, and make a solid decision. For instance, the prosecutor focused on his “anger scale” because the ONLY hope they have to winning is that he was “angry” and started stabbing people. For us, we know that given the mob he was surrounded by, he needed to defend himself after they repeatedly attacked him, especially after calling him names, and that being angry doesn’t wave his right to self defense. What, should he be happy while defending himself? Should be scared? Yes, he should be scared, but you can be angry and scared at the same time.
@@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211you can be angry and scared at the same time, or do you mean can’t?
I Agree. His attorney should not have allowed him to testify. They are masters of taking a testimony, twisting a story/scenario and saying, right? Right?
no one has to remember they just have to watch the video
He was in disbelief that's what that smile was about
There's two sides to the story.. and his does fairly make sense..
but I think he was too intoxicated and annoyed that the whole video plays out like he knew exactly what he was doing.
exactly, instead of listening to contradictory statements you can watch what actually happened.
Yes and in the video you can see some spoiled intoxicated kids bullying an old guy that was the same … we need to know how to raise our kids, now they are crying cause they were stabbed , but at the time they were laughing and bullying and hitting a person … so sorry not sorry .. as a mom I would be so mad but honestly they were so wrong and there’s consequences
@@AnaGarcia-cg4yoI agree, they instigated the whole situation and made it worse. If they would have helped the man or asked instead of bullying. Then none of that would have happened.
The physical altercation… it was seconds, not minutes. It’s really nice to sit, removed from all emotion, and break everything down frame by frame.. but that’s not how the brain works. He is, in my opinion, clearly traumatized. This whole thing is awful.
Definitely.
He isn’t traumatized. His demeanor is exactly the same as it was when he attacked those kids. He’s not crying. He’s not sad. He’s not even a little upset. He is just robotic and cold.
@@coleengogerty3852 You're not a psychiatrist to say whether or not someone is upset. He could be traumatized and hate that the incident happened, yet not sit there a bawl like a baby. Just because that's what most women would do doesn't mean he is uncaring.
the adult could walk away and let it go. but this asshole just couldn't
Not half as traumatized as though those stabbed I bet
He's not always truthful. This doesn't help his case.
severe case of amnesia... he doesn't remember.
@@sheiladikshit5110y’all make sure make a lot of excuses for your kind about anything huh 😂
@@unyieldingrage1389 they don't think it be like it is, but it do.
@@sheiladikshit5110😂 that's ridiculous.
@@unyieldingrage1389our… kind? You mean humans?
The way the prosecuter says, "right?" after every single question is annoying to listen to.
It is called "leading", and should not happen.
It's because he wouldn't immediately answer the question. Because he's guilty as sin.
Now it's all I hear lmao
@@DarkFox2232
That’s what I was hearing
@@DarkFox2232 Its cross-examination, leading is allowed during cross
Everybody had just 2 beers in this trial....
Actually they measured alcohol levels. The least ‘drunk’ kid (the one who died) was already leveling 0.219 and that’s quite a lot
@@hoidoei941he's making a joke that they were lying
The older brother admitted to 4 or so.
LoL just like when people get pulled over.. they always just had two beers. Gimme a break
@@matthewfoor4487 Law enforcement, said Mr. Miu had no appearance or scent of alcohol.
This guy made the ultimate mistake of taking the stand and waiving his right to remain silent
I think it will help him. He's not scared to tell the truth, and he's well spoken, compared to the kids.
@@meholder7570he cannot get his story straight at all
@@meholder7570the truth doesn’t look good for him.
@meholder7570 lol yall see what yall want to seem the video shows this guy being aggressive first lol
@@briannavacca5083ya all the kids lieing he def shouldnt have taken the stand, but you basically have to if your going for self defense.
I have met and worked with a lot of engineers and only met one with a "convenient" bad memory, regardless of their age. Mui is a mechanical engineer. He had time to walk away and not cut up anyone.
I'm surrounded my engineers, and have been for 30 years. You must live in the twilight zone. An engineer's memory is like any other person's memory, some good some bad.
Nevertheless, I know from experience that when in a high stress environment, and the adrenaline is surging, a person's memory of detail will not be the same as sitting taking notes in lecture, with a text book with the purpose of memorizing detail.
Alcohol
And the kid could ah e walked away instead of being cut.
Why is the judge whispering points to the lawyer? It almost seems like he's coaching the prosecution, is this normal practice?
The attorney is so annoying. Only says right and correct 5000 times.
Right?
To me, it’s leading 🤷🏻♀️😑
@@jayc4743👍🤣
@@sandihulbert5902 🤦🏾♂️you can lead on cross… so yes the prosecution is asking leading questions at times.
The defense is 2... agreed?
Wow he should not have testified!! I was on his side before but now I don’t know. He has no regret or sympathy of the young boy dying… wow
Thank you for that observation! He doesn't seem remorseful at all!
You dont know if he has any regret.. when your getting charged with murder all you have time for is fighting for your life on trial. It takes everything out of you.. he may have regret and guilt he may just not be showing it bc it will make him look even more guilty and he is putting all his energy in this trial.. He won't ever get to fully process it until trial is over imo.
@@jessie-111 right, as you don't know if he's a cold psychopath, who feels nothing either, right? It's all speculation.
@@jessie-111right I’m sure Ted bundy had remorse as well
Why would you have regret or sympathy?
What a blunder by the defense to put this man on the witness stand
In all honesty, they probably didn't have a choice in his arrogance, he probably insisted against there council
Surprisingly, it worked for Kyle Rittenhouse.
@@palace927 That was a true case of self defense, and he didn't try to hide from the facts of what happened, in fact, he immediately tried to turn himself in.
@@palace927 he was being shot at by career criminals, not mocked by teenagers
They had to after the interrogation video was made available. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse off he’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.
This man stopped a group of teens basically accusing them of stealing a phone that didn’t they steal.
@@CKing-388 this man is pure evil. He intended to go looking for an altercation with these boys. I'm still very confused as to what he was thinking that day. Doesn't seem to be normal behavior but he probably wanted to impress his friends, or just emerge in the News, as a lone man who gets attacked in a river and used self defense. He wanted the fame of something like that, but I'm still wondering what his motives were. None the less, he thought he could get away thinking he did the world a favor by gutting rowdy teenagers. It just amazes me that he thought he was going to be okay and if you notice, he was still raging with anger during sentencing. I was sure he was going to blurt out something towards the Judge. He wanted to do this, he wanted other adults and law enforcement to side with him. He didn't value the boys as humans, they deserved to die, because they were drinking underage and he wanted people to know he exposed their sins. He wanted credit for his efforts of ridding the world of these devalued teenagers, during the trial, you can see his face searching for approval and recognition from lawyers, law enforcement and other adults
@@sallychasen1793Pure evil is raising a bully. Pure evil is making up a story about a person being a "pedo predator" and escalating the situation calling people to join you with bats for "help" 13 against 1.
@@alinalindt4676 it was proven the 13 to 1 was a made up defense tactic. Not true. Obviously, you didn't watch the video
@@alinalindt4676 Did you see the video, did you watch the trial? Miu lied at every question and even tried to manipulate the Prosecutor's questions. Miu eventually, although it was very painfully slow to watch, admitted to each accusation, but with a much painstaking process, between the attorneys. Miu threw the knife away after the stabbing. I watched this entire trial numerous times to see every detail.....For the life of me, I can't understand what his intent was, he had his hidden agenda, and I'm confused if he was trying to show off for his friends, of what a "versatile average man to defender of knives on the river Hero". I don't fault you for your opinion, but you have to acknowledge his lies on the witness stand and with LT Hart. I really want to to know why he thought he could do this, and walk away to his Jeep. He almost got away. People who are in self defense don't hide from law enforcement and throw the weapons away. Ariel should also face charges for lying to the Jury ,claiming he didn't see anything, when he was standing next to Miu while he gutted the teens. Maybe there's something left over in his head coming out of Romania, that he was conditioned to think killing was somehow okay, or approved of, if you're the adult. That's one point, I noticed that he felt entitled because they were "drunk children ". He thought Madison Coen "should correct the children ". All I know, is he's a VERY odd man with unusual thoughts of who should have rights to drink, use marijuana, or even be on the River. He thought he was the the Ruler of the town. The statement of Madison having "alcohol on her breath "....as if he was in charge and he could judge everyone. Miu has deep raging anger, you could see he was still very mad at sentencing. I'm surprised his wife wasn't butchered at some point in their marriage, she certainly wasn't safe with that man, and never knew it. She seems like a sweet simple woman, her life has been shattered, but probably she's safer now. I could see he had this in his mind, when he took the knife out. The Jury got it right
With a knife ready, which he made sure to check that he got before he was walking up to them. Talk about evil intent.
His conversation with Cops is super damning. Throwing away the knife is super damning.
Not really. Neither of those things proves he wasn't defending himself
It proves he's a liar, and that He didn't feel legally justified to do what He did.
@arkeam9292 No, unless you go through something like that, you won't know the feelings and adrenaline one is going through.
Even innocent people have admitted and sent to prison.
You have NO IDEA what he was thinking or feeling.
@@The_ScapeGoat he cleaned the blood off the knife and dumped it... then he put on glasses and a had and returned to his group and acted like nothing happened
When You're forced to use deadly force in self defense, U don't leave. U surrender to cops yourself and any weapon you may of had to use. U don't have to tell Ur story to the cops necessarily.... but U definitely don't lie. U have a right to remain silent.
Prosecutor can't do anything without co- counsel whispering hints. Terrible!
Prosecutor is a ingnorant idiot defending bullies and their stupidity .MR HUI DIDN'T STARTTHE BS THE WANTABES CAUSED THIS WTF up.This is what is happening today. No respect, No trust Nohonrr No brains!!!
Lol lol there are two people there for a reason to work together !!! This happens EVERYDAY in our courthouses, at the best trials
Watch a random trial. Try OJ these are the best of the best and they be whispering the whole trial.
Do research before you talk. 😏😘
Because this case is so weak and should have never been tried.
Agreed. The other attorney should be doing the cross examination
It was extremely disturbing to listen to co-counsel give him instructions! So corrupt!
The defence lawyer must have been scratching his head when Miu responded that his fear level was 1 out of 10, and then crept up to 3 out of 10 just before pulling out a knife.
He’s been confused since the day this all happend😅 he’s got the scale all wrong, in his head less is more, higher is less 😅
He didnt say his fear level was 1 outta ten, use your ears next time, he said his anger level was a 1 outta 10.
@@ChiefsWin316 not true. he said this earlier when the defense was questioning him.
He flipped the scale and screwed his client. This is what happens when you over coach your client and the client isn’t given the go ahead to just tell it in your own words. He’s over thinking and giving short answers. Just talk and let it out. Unless you are being careful but at this point you should just be speaking in a raw form about what you did and what you saw and what you felt. He can give king answers but he’s trying to be calculated and that comes across as deception
@@ChiefsWin316 Settle petal
Goggles in his accent probably sounded like "girls" to the drunk and high boys.
That’s a good point it’s possible !
He could have said anything and those bullies would have picked on him anyway. There's no excuse for that menacing gang to attack him.
@@mgmarrow agreed...I think the judge messed it up by gatekeeping the video and not freely giving it to the jury. Hoping for a mistrial on those grounds. We can defend ourselves from any and all physical threats.
@@mgmarrow What videos are you guys watching? Because from what I've seen it's clearly Miu who starts the altercation and is the first to get physical.
@@mgmarrow They were looking for a fight, and they got one. And lost.
Absolutely nobody had to die that day
Agreed. If the kids would have just shut up and listened amd helped instead of whooping around like drunken monkeys and attacking the guy, then nobody would have been hurt. Parents need to raise their children better and teach common decency again.
Fafo
@@houhou71yep! 100 percent correct!
@@houhou71or maybe if he would have just waited a few minutes for them to float passed and clear the area, not invaded their personal space, accused them of stealing his phone, assaulted a girl, oh and probably if he wouldn’t have brought that knife to confront them dam rowdy kids.. and him being drunk probably didn’t help his decision making, I guess he’s not a responsible adult, and he’s obviously not a reasonable person but at least he doesn’t have anger issues, he stabs multiple kids that were minding their own business until he barged in and planted himself in a perfect scenario to unleash all that built up suppressed anger while he’s drunk and found a group of kids having to much fun minding their own business.. yep but he’s the victim.. you people are sick. And you just heard all the same evidence and testimony that I did.. what is wrong with your comprehension skills, probably just your biases but really?
@@MickeyKimseyfor real
His lawyers should've never let him on the witness stand
It was his decision.
I agree. The prosecution was drooling at the prospect.
He knows that now. Like everyone who's ever made this mistake. I've made this mistake twice, though both times it was the only way to introduce evidence they were trying to block. Twice. Both times sucked and didn't go the way I thought it would. You only think you can. Even a second rate prosecutor can talk circles around an average person. Because the average person isn't all that intelligent.
If the lawyers advised the defendant not to take the stand why did he do so because he's not looking good. He either has a very bad memory or was seriously drunk.
Why? Can’t handle your “usual suspect” looking bad on stand?
I have no idea why people are siding with this guy. Those kids didn't go to him, he went to them. How about let them float by and then look for the phone.
I doubt he was looking for a phone.
He was most likely worried the kids stole the phone or would I they stumbled on it first but doesn't want to say so. That doesn't make him guilty. I'll bet you've never been in a scary situation involving a mob or your life and it shows.
Doesn’t matter. The kids are the ones who pushed him down in the water, and punched him in the face. He’s allowed to wander around in the water, looking for whatever he was looking for. The kids escalated everything and started the violence first.
He had violence in his heart to stab people.
Who is to say the kids were stopped resting like the man’s group…
He's his own worst enemy for acting like he didn't know what happened
How many times have you done something wrong and tried to deny it? I’m sure everyone has at one point or another. Who knows what each of us would have done in that same situation.
OMG All the others remember everything differently or not at all.
When people are in shock, they don't remember things. One of the surgeons that operated on one of the 17 year olds testified that that happens.
One of the surgeons that operated on one of the boys testified that when someone is in shock, they don't remember things.
RYAN+ I DONT REMEMBER ANYTHING NOT EVEN WHAT YOU WROTE
Who stabs multiple people then floats off finishing up the day as if nothing has hpppened!?
Somebody that just dodged a bullet being attacked by an enraged mob and doesn't feel guilty about defending himself.
Chuckie
@@BoominGamewell said, thank you for having common sense
He stabbed that girl before ever getting attacked @@BoominGame
Most tube river floats are like that, you are stuck on the river until you get to the end point where you either catch a shuttle back to your car, or you had a shuttle that drops you off further up the river and you float back to where your car is. It’s a day float… most of the river goes thru the woods and most is not accessible to just “walk out”. His wife stated in her testimony they were just quiet finishing the float.. but I doubt they knew at that time that a kid died or he did that much physical damage.
Let’s be honest here. This is a case of “when assholes collide”. Throw in alcohol and other intoxicants, and this whole ordeal was just a shit show waiting to happen. I think he was near the kids looking for the phone and they got an attitude with him. They felt like being assholes to some older guy and eventually he thought they were possibly holding the phone to fuck with him. He wasn’t sure if their behavior was locker room behavior or intentional so he kinda messed around by flipping their tubes around. They got up and everyone started surrounding him, taunting him, and bullying him. Of course he could have walked away, but if you watch the video they essentially keep trailing behind him as if he’s trespassing. He appeared to be grabbed by a couple people and ended up hitting that girl. You don’t see her be “hit”. At that point he’s shoved into the water and assaulted. That is when it appears that he starts stabbing anyone who comes up on him. Again, alcohol really played a role in this whole saga and is a clear example of why alcohol is truly one of the worst examples of a drug you can intake in public. Nothing good comes from it. No one is innocent here.
Same thing i said...i think maybe those kids started this whole thing
Totally agree with your observation!
So negligent use of knife led to a death and multiple stabbings? Lol not a reasonable amount of force.
@@a.N.....if I'm getting my ass kicked by a mob, I'm grabbing a weapon.
Yeah, this is pretty much it. What sucks is if he hadn't dropped his snorkle and goggles, I'll bet he would have moved on pretty quickly. He came into the area because he thought the phone might have been there and maybe the kids had it to mess with him, but he didn't want to leave because he knew his goggles and snorkle were there.
who the fuk does this DA think he is asking why defendant didnt leave after maddie the instigator told him to "leave"? Its not her River or property.
And she put her hands on him.
Its not his river or property to lay hands on their tubes & legs either
@@tomsanger5548 So it's their right to bother someone who is minding their own business? Lol can't make this stuff up
He should have left at any time but he chose to engage with everyone
Nobody acted right here. It is a very sad outcome, but I would be intimidated too by a horde of drunk kids descending on me.
Sad part is when I read these comments every one thinks he did this in self defense,but the defendant himself knew at the time that he was not acting in his defense, hence his actions like getting rid of the weapon, not approaching police forces , lying to deputes about the incident. Makes me wonder what kind of people are here!!😢
It's called trauma.
Panic doesn’t make you guilty, dumbo-
This is actually correct - if this was a straight forward fight for survival - you would want to tell everyone what happened and to ask for help to be saved and you would want to get authorities to capture and detain your attackers.
It's called fear of going to jail, because he knows he stabbed people. He was trying to avoid the potential. We have no idea whether it was because he was truly trying to hurt people or because he was defending himself. It's common behavior, if not honorable behavior for someone to fear when they kill someone even if they did it in self-defense.
Literally none of that matters when there is a video showing what happened. He was scared no one would believe him and didn’t know there was a video recording to back him up.
He keeps forgetting that his narrative is that he was terrified. He repeatedly describes his feelings during the incident as “annoyed and frustrated” Showing his true colors- an idiot liar and a senseless murderer.
Suppose being fisted three times affects your thinking.
Horrible individual...He went to their tubes to instigate a situation where he could eventually stab them, because he was angry at them for drinking...He also thinks he is very savy at the first part of the prosecution, he gets slowly taken down to the liar he is. He wanted a situation, he caused one , so he could come out of it with a self defense plea. Unfortunately for him , someone filmed him killing people
@@sallychasen1793 Their initial treatment of him in response to his foreign accent is an absolute abomination.
@@marklittler784 he's a pathological liar. His accent should be long gone, his twin brother doesn't act like that. He's 54, and came here as a young teen, he needs to drop the charade. He's playing stupid and fragile and he's anything but. Remember he has nearly 2 Masters Degrees, all the "stupid" is acts of manipulation . Remember, he went to college for a very long time, and has been in the USA the biggest majority of his life. Watch him during the prosecution, before they ask him what his injuries were, he starts with tongue/cheek movement, so he'll be ready for the question. Then, when asked about the width of the river, he catches himself again, because he let it out that his group was 100ft (then he catches himself) from the boys. Miu deliberately went to get a confrontation going, he just wasn't socially savvy enough to realize everyone has cameras these days. Miu thinks his stupidity of saying "I don't remember that conversation " will just get him right out of trouble. He got 20 years, should have gotten 80, but he lost the trial, his job, his income, his house, his wife, and his dog...plus all the respect of his friends and peers. He'll never be employed again, and I hope his stay in prison is super miserable for him.
Just to let everyone know, Wisconsin isn’t a stand your ground state. So, this case was muddy from the start.
That’s 100% wrong. And in fact the entire United States has stand your ground laws that have been in place for 200 years
And there is no duty to retreat. Muddy indeed.
@@boomnews815there is reasonable action to retreat when the facts are presented. It’s not just ‘you don’t gotta retreat, and standing your ground is not law’. That’s dumb. They’ve defined reasonable self defense requirements. The main debate is the level of deliberate culpability on the suspect, which that burden of proof has been lowered with the addition of lesser charges. 1st and 2nd degree negligent homicide (attempted as well) and disregard for human life is within the jury rules.
It's not stand your ground but there's also no duty to retreat.
This prosecutor might have been able to prove aggravated manslaughter but he's drowning under murder one.
He's never going to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense because what leads up to the point where they shark attack this guy is irrelevant to whether or not he was justified in defending himself.
This defense lawyer is smart enough to convince the jury of that and this prosecutor is an idiot.
Cool, so why didn't those kids walk away since they were so "scared"
The look on his face when asked why he didn’t back off and he replies “I was standing my ground” shows his mindset
Which by the way is NOT Wisconsin law. He then admitted he pushed Maddie which was the first act of assault.
@@tomsanger5548 its now called the maddi push
@@tomsanger5548not the first act. The first act was the females putting their hands on him. And when the one female continuously pulled his arm. It may not be severe but still, you can not touch people you don’t know without permission.
@@tomsanger5548no the first act of assault was when he “tripped” onto there tubes grabbing the teens legs.
@@tomsanger5548 Wisconsin Statute 939.48 is a thing though. You're allowed to defend yourself from physical harm by using force in Wisconsin.
He thought them kids grabbed the phone and we're hiding it. That's why he targeted them.
Yes and they thought he was a creep but he turned out to be a psycho
Exactly he saw they had a phone in one of their necklaces and he lunged at them thinking it was his friends phone plus them making fun of him definitely hurt his ego so he was mad
He didn't lunge to get his goggles before the went under one of the tubes
They did
Cap
All of this over a phone that wasn’t even his…..im sure he’s regretting not walking away 🤦🏻♂️
All of this was over a video that Jahwan wanted to go viral. He fed the DRUNK AND HIGH mob FOR THE CULTURE.
@@angiejorah yeah but he’s not the one sitting behind bars
@@chikensaregood9500 Not literally, no.
@@angiejorahthe older man should have walked away from that culture not jump into the middle of it with a knife. As an older man, that’s what I would do, not go to prison for the rest of my short life. But hey, you do you.
@@Ivan.A.Churlyuski If only Madison and the other screaming woman who put their hands on him wouldn't have blocked his path back to his group. He tried walking away. The mob was out to get him no matter what. Mui had no choice and had to defend himself. Enjoy seeing an innocent man go to prison for the rest of his life for self-defense against 12 drunk and high screaming and laughing people. I wonder how long and how many of them would have kept punching him while he was down had he not defended himself. 2 women and 4 or 5 of the men put their hands on him before he stabbed anyone. Fact.
If the comments are any indication of the verdict, this will be a hung jury.
Or a not guilty verdict; as it should be.
The jury is very interesting. 7 men and 5 women. Two people in there 20s and one age 90+. Quite a variety. Yes, it only takes on for a hung jury, then it starts all over. But probably the prosecutor would start off with lesser charges than 1st degree. But Mui has already been in jail two years, would they reduce his bond?
There are a couple of older jurors. It'll probably be a young juror who thinks it was self-defense. Irony.
True but most old people are agreeing and only 2 of the jurors are under their 40s. Old people are much more experienced in life and aren’t stupid enough to believe those teens were in fear or felt danger but were the aggressors. Really the women took it to the next level and they were adults but still young and stupid.
It’s as if those trying to act like “he started it” didn’t watch the video or some sht…it’s clear those “kids” instigated this and the woman turned it physical.
They try to analyze this frame by frame as if every millisecond could be stopped and thought out as it happened. It just doesnt work that way.
That’s literally the prosecution’s only hard evidence. They gotta make every frame count if they wanna get this man charged with 1st degree murder. Grasping for straws for sure
Exactly.
Yeah because in a murder trial, you don’t want to slow the video down to show when he pulled his knife out and when he murdered someone. It just doesn’t happen that way. You have to play the video at full speed. That’s the most unintelligent ignorant remark I’ve seen yet.
That’s what they’ve done for every witness. The defense attorneys did the same exact thing.
It COULD have been stopped. To not analyze every move would be stupid. He could have walked away. HE initiated the entire thing.
His memory is incredibly selective. Goes away when it's inconvenient, comes back when it IS convenient, and FILLED with false memories aka LIES.
Also, he NEVER mentioned being strangled because his LAWYERS came up with that lie. The 3-part picture of the victim "strangling" him, was literally at the time he was murdering the kid.
At the time the "kid" put his hands on his throat he had the right to defend himself.
@angiejorah - Didn't you wonder why the 17 year old's body & Miu's hands were blocked off in that 3-part picture that SUPPOSEDLY proved he was being strangled by the 17-year old??? It was because Miu was stabbing him to death AT THAT MOMENT!!! You can tell because you see that Riley in the background has already been stabbed. That's why her mouth is open like she's screaming and she's looking down at her side. What would YOU do?? Just stand there? Miu had ALREADY punched Maddie, stabbed Riley, and one other person. This poor kid just tried to push this psycho away and got killed for his actions. In fact, NO ONE had assaulted Miu in ANY way before he started attacking everyone!
Miu also took his knife out LONG before he began the attack, just hoping someone would provide a justification for him to start stabbing. When they didn't, he punched Maddie, and started stabbing everyone. He did not know there would be video. You have to watch the whole video. In addition, at least 3 out the 5 or 6 people he attacked, didn't touch him aggressively in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER (before or after his attack), including the first 2 people he attacked. So NOTHING was self-defense for Miu. But for anyone who did punch or push Miu, that was obviously self-defense because he was stabbing everyone. And since Miu was the first person to physically attack anyone, it's actually the victims that are defending themselves, as much as they can by pushing him away or punching him.
His defense team did a great job muddying the waters by cherry picking moments in the video where Miu was either "assaulted" or the "victim" an apparent assault. They didn't SAY the instances were BEFORE Miu started attacking everyone, they just let you assume it. The problem was, people only started pushing / punching Miu when Miu began stabbing everybody. Miu came over to them, refused to leave, initiated the violence, then took it up 100 knots. Then he casually left like he could have at any other time.
@@wvrjl If you watch the video at .25 you don't see Rylee stabbed until after Mui got up from being pushed into the water, slapped, and punched. Rylee and Madison had their hands all over Mui. He didn't punch Madison. Madison lied and said she had pics of her face. The police are able to recover deleted pictures. The picture never happened. The drunk and high mob say that to justify attacking him in the 1st place. All of the people who got stabbed punched, slapped, had their hands on him, prevented him from leaving and tried to push him under the water. 100% Self-Defense against a drunk and high mob.
Oh wow, he should never have taken the stand. What a mistake.
Why do people keep saying this lol, it shows the jury he's not a redneck killer like zoomers portray him to be, he's a feeble ethnic migrant of an old man who was defending himself
Not really, got a murder put in jail for the rest of his life. I'm pretty sure he didn't have much of a choice in the matter
It's one side...listen to the defense examination.
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 you always have a choice to not testify against yourself lol
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 its a right
Crazy to put this guy on the stand. He buried himself, and any chance he had.
Nah, I think he's not guilty of redrum. He did lie to police and was horrible on the stand. The video says it all tho.
Eh he’s white, probably get community service
Shall I point out this guy didn’t just STAB. He did maximum damage on PURPOSE. He KNOWS how to fight. He twisted and dragged the knife in them. I’d bet money this guy is a trained ex military or private militia from Eastern Europe/Ukraine/Russia…. and let’s not forget there’s been on and off fighting and now war. This guy is playing dumb. He knew exactly what he was doing. Nobody was gonna insult HIM.
He’s guilty of murder and attempted murder. He deserves life, no parole. At the least. He’s a liar.
He's an American
@@rcbrown22hes not hes from Europe listen to his accent
@@celticwarrior777 There are lots of people who immigrated to America who have accents. It's not relevant to the case anyway.
@@rcbrown22he's Romanian. Came to America as an adult. Dude would have served military and done some shit
@@yehheapsmadaybut It has no relevance to the case.
1:14:16 THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS to Plea the 5th!!! He should have said “I’m not answering questions I’ll have to speak to an attorney” but because he was nervous and obviously didn’t want to say “I stabbed people in self defense” cause you’re still admitting to stabbing 😱 and that’s never gonna look good. Now he’s caught in a lie on tape saying “I heard about it” when he knows 100% he was the stabber
Even as this bully testifies, we can see he has a real bad temper.
You can see underlying anger all the way through this. He has not one ounce of remorse for his actions.
Yup! Just has a lot of arrogance
basically everyone involved is a shitty person amplified by substances
Wow. The teens were the drunk and high Bullies laughing and videoing having a great time harassing a man they knew was alone.
@@angiejorah With a foreign accent
He was so afraid that he didn't walk away. He actually came back and was ready to gut people over a lost phone that wasn't his.
@@GrandpaLinkWatch the video he runs up to them as he feels to make sure he has his knife.
He looks annoyed and overwhelmed testifying more than he does during the video IMO
This 💯
In the video, he is drunk as a skunk. He told the cops that he had "been drinking all day".
@@dtrez3866 Miu was drinking beer. The mob was drinking beer, vodka, and smoking weed.
He won’t even admit to that being him in the video . Wow. Too much lies. At least be a little remorseful. You hurt people badly. Took a life. Like damn. He deserves some time for sure. I get they were talking shit but you ran up. You wanted to fight. “Kids being kids” as he clutched his hands together. GUILTY.
That was not a stumble. The guy is a liar. He lied to the police about everything that happened from the moment the police made contact with him that day.
Ive been jumped by 7 people once. You just react. You do not see faces just shapes and the sounds are unrecognizable. Easy to say should of could of would of. When you're not the one getting smacked around.
I hear you. I've been in a similar situation.
Exactlyyyy!!!
for real all these people who have never been surrounded and physically assualted (or even just taunted and pushed around if you want to minimize it) they have no idea what its like and they say they would have reacted calmy and just let the berating happen bro people literally have no empathy and im starting to notice its the ones who are always claiming to be the most socially conscientious etc
This man was not ambushed or jumped. This man initiated a confrontation. This man used a concealed knife. This man is refusing to answer the questions. His smile is evil and he claims “I’m not smiling” it is a sneering.
@@conchhead1 He was jumped. He had a knife in his hand and they jumped him.
You can see why kids were weirded out ,when he thought they had cell phone he bull rushed them them, pulled on their tubes basicially not bothering him til he messed with them
He is Guilty!!
@@kristee2947nope. Self defense.
@@PhysifistEngineeringso You would have handled this situation exactly as he did??
@PhysifistEngineering it's not self defense when he had opportunity to leave and no one else had a weapon or intention to seriously injure him
@@Cynt12345 I'm a United States Marine. I've been trained to defend myself from perceived or real physical threats. I have that legal right. You can be a victim all you want. You have the pleasure of casually observing this situation from the comfort of your home. I'd love to see your reaction if in the water and surrounded by 13 angry intoxicated young people that were pushing you into the water, hitting you while accusing you of being a pedo.
Poor decision to put this guy on the stand.
You think? LOL..complete disaster for his defense. #FAIL
No matter where you stand on this case we can all agree this prosecutor sucks, “right”?
Nah. I think you're incredibly incorrect and borderline stupid. He got the defendant to admit to lying multiple times in under an hour and overall he seems angry, temperamental, untrustworthy and violent. That's the mark of a great prosecutor.
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no, that is your opinion, you cannot assume your opinion is everybody else's opinion, you are not in my head nor the other people here watching the trial & commenting. I actually think the Prosecution did a very good job, I also think the Defence did quite well, Miu, in my opinion failed miserably & the Prosecutor did a great job, exposing him & the lies, he doesn't remember but admits these things happen, he just doesn't remember them. This is not a football game, it's a stabbing, killing on the Apple river on a sunny afternoon. You don't know the person, neither do, I however do have an opinion about carrying weapons, why did he walk away leaving 1 person dead, another almost dead, and other stabbed victims, he left a trail of blood, death & chaos? Now it's up to the Legal team to unfold the events of that day & the Jury to decide whether the evidence proves guilt, innocence or a hung jury, it's the Defence's job, no matter whether the defendant is guilty or innocent, they have an obligation to defend their client, to the best of their ability, they are doing a marvellous job, they are both doing a great job.
@@basiahellwich3505 He can have an opinion. He's says the prosecutor sucks. So why get emotional. It's his opinion.Go to your cry room.
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Victim blaming...is disgusting and he lied from beginning
You are also victim blaming. And the others also lied from the beginning.
The teens were not victims. They were taunting, malicious, instigating, unhinged lunatics who pushed an older man into the water and punched his face and then tried to hold him down in the water. The kids were instigating the WHOLE time
@@swisscheeseplease97101% created a monster…well good wonderful kids who acted worst than idiots
At first i thought he was in the wrong, butno I fully believe that both sides were wrong and he maybe felt threatened by all these young men and the outcome was tragic...This is what happens when you to act big and bad to look cool for your friends..sad outcome either way
Regardless of who started it, he went for the kill. He didn't show them his knife, announce he had one, or command them to get back. He used lethal kill shots against unarmed young people, even young women, and didn't even try to leave when he had his entire back in the clear. For that he is guilty according to state law.
He ran up and tried to flip the boys off of their intertubes. He was the aggressor from the start.
What about the young woman he stabbed? She wasn’t with the group of young men!
You are so right!!
The young adults were firmly in the wrong, period. Incited a mob, and then acted as a mob. This man is innocent.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how many people are now defending a guy who disemboweled a seventeen year old, stabbed a tiny teenage girl, and murdered another kid. What the fuck is happening to peoples' brains? How is everyone turning into an absolute soulless sociopath?
I commiserate with you, they protest for Hamas. Thousands in the streets protesting for the mad beasts of Oct 7th I can't understand it.
Right? I'm so confused. Like it's FIVE people he stabbed. How can that be defendable by so many people. I could see it differently if it was one person and he retreated. But he attacked all of them violently with deadly force. Yes he was threatened and everyone was in the wrong but that doesn't absolve him of this act of insanity. People defending him and completely villainizing the teens/young adults have some messed up logic.
Well Said!! This is so insane!!
@@OtDawn What?
@@millie663"He attacked all of them." So, they were just lying around, lounging on the sand and he walked up and attacked them? Is that what you're implying?
After he was detained he literally said he saw people yelling and fighting but didnt see anyone injured and doesnt know whats going on even though he just stabbed 5 people and kill 1? thats what innocent people say right?
Yes its what this innocent person said
@@somsomerson1576 if your innocent you dont lie
@@dwizzle2132 He knows he fucked up, but thats what a person who knows he might face a long time in jail might say, not necesserally guilty. The action happened, he stabbed people... being judged as self defense is really difficult... that guy making fun of him filming was his best chance of getting a fair trail and they didn't know it, neither did him.
How people can't put themselves in others peoples shoes always surprises me... like a lack of perspective.
@@dwizzle2132If you’re in a state of shock you don’t even realize what just happened, amateur-
I bet you’d have a different opinion if it was your child or your kin that got stabbed on the river that day I’m sure
I've seen the full video. It's out there on shock sites. The guy on trial looked out of his mind. But its obvious the recording was started and happening after some other altercation had already occurred. The guy was about to leave or quit, until the second group showed up and attacked him.
Aw really. Where can the full video be found then exactly?
That's not 100% correct.
@@celticwarrior777Try "Kaotic" or "The YNC". But a word of caution. There's some very, very bad stuff on both of these sites. Everything that happened to these kids is like watching an episode of Sesame Street compared to some of the horrific things I've seen on both of these sites. So heads up!
Shock sites? It’s on youtube lol!
@@celticwarrior777
It’s on this same channel, man. “GRAPHIC CONTENT: Apple River Stabbing Released”
Why isn’t prosecution letting us see the videos he’s referring to? To confuse us armchair jurors!
It's as if they only care about what the jury sees.
Probably so
The prosecution isn't the videograper. The prosecution is showing it in court, where it truly matters.
The Dax Shepard of the juror.
He is presenting it to the jury first of all, and not responsible for being the cameraman or your entertainment. It's a trial, not a reality show
Never heard a prosecutor say “right” so many times. Annoying
The prosecutor tried so hard to twist so many facts, to paint his particular “story” involving “the kids” 🙄. He was absolutely annoying as hell!
You haven't watched many trials then.
Slimy attorneys love to do that, they don’t want your answer they want to create a bs narrative
How about the obnoxious defense attorney saying “correct” every 5 minutes. Works both ways.
Isn't that leading the witness
We all have to remember all of this unraveled in about what 4min… beginning to end…
EXACTLY! Those numskulls saying he should't have walked away so he's guilty are pathetic!
Think about it. The guy managed to gut another full grown adult, nearly gutted a female who was in the hospital for a month, stabbed two other people, and managed to kill Isaac.
Nobody knew he had a knife and there's no confirmed serious injuries and the only thing he complained about was his butt hurting. Later, he claimed his throat did but never said that anyone until today.
Omg EXACTLY. Having any of them try to explain why they did whatever is crazy because it happened so fast.
Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek...wow, now I understand why it's such an important thing for us to do... turn the other cheek when you are surrounded by a mob of people acting like this.
@@williamphillips2239are you saying he couldn’t evaluate the situation, see he was out numbered and make moves to evac? That goes against logic he was being pulled away refused the out and chose to stand up to people he himself refers to kids. Everyone there that day was drunk and lacked common faculties. I don’t feel bad for him if he’s convicted. If he isn’t that’s fine too. At the end of the day his choice may have not cost him his life but he’s ruined what’s left of it.
I love how when prosecutors are questioning him, frame by frame, they act like this is how the incident played out… And slow motion and in a frame by frame timing. This all happened so fast with hands flying at him, different people in his face, and very chaotic, and he supposed to know who’s touching him and anticipate who’s going to do what to him next. This didn’t happen in slow motion. It happened very fast and you have adrenaline running and are just trying to get people away from you. I can picture myself in that situation and I hope the jury does too. You have to put yourself in the situation to even halfway try to understand what he may have been feeling. That’s what empathy is. Putting putting yourself in somebody else’s shoes.
This is one of the most sensible comments I’ve seen. People saying he could have walked away, he did start walking away and the kids started coming up behind him. They show the frame in another video where one of the kids is testifying. He’s got his back to them walking away and the one in purple shorts and the one in blue are closing the distance between them and him getting closer following him & yelling with their arms up. It looks like the one on purple was within reach from where when he originally turned his back 10-15 feet away.
I would have assumed those kids were going to drown me. They were behaving like a mob. I don’t blame Miu for reacting, but he shouldn’t have used the knife.
yeah this applies to the teens being stabbed to death and gutted too FYI. clearly you cant picture yourself in the teenagers situation coz id have been freaked out by this weirdo...if i was in that position. and i wouldnt dive into the middle of them and start pushing their property while saying NOTHING so i guess i cant imagine myself in this guys situation because im not as retarded to ever put myself in this situation.
I feel the same way.. things happened so fast and the yelling and pushing him, he was in midst of a bunch of drunk teenagers and who knew what was going to happen next? I feel for the guy bc he was minding his own business when they all appeared and started the whole thing and then it escalated.. smh
@nrs they had their part too.
Why does it have 2 have the awful noise when the court is muted!!?? ... why not just silence!!??
Late to the part, the noise is whitenoise. In courts, they play this in the room so no one can hear the discussion between lawyers and judges. It is kept in the recording so listeners are aware the audio is ok and that it has not been lost.
Background: I use to be a court AV technician for 10 years
this is wisconsin self defense law "A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself."
In NJ if you defend yourself you go to jail forever, regardless of what someone is doing to you
Explain this again pretending you are speaking to dummies.
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Wow, Wisconsin is probably full of narcissists
TURE and with that law in place hee would be found guilty..He A started the interaction. B started the fight. C he used force on two individual who was not showing him physical threat.
1:17:12 The lies NEVER stop with this guy. Why doesn’t the prosecutor say here: “You are lying when you act oblivious to the cops, aren’t you?” Then press him on the lies.
The video speaks for itself for the jury. His reputation is in tatters. Shows him clearly and calmly lying to the cops and trying to save his own skin.
He clearly lies to the cops to try to get away without having to explain himself and risk getting arrested and charged. That alone doesn't make him guilty of murder, however, and the video evidence of the fight shows good grounds for a self-defense ruling. It does seem like he should be charged with evidence tampering, fleeing the scene, and lying to an peace officer.
You realize everyone in this case is lying and it's like 10+ delinquents lying and fabricating details like "he was looking for little girls", etc against him. Do you hear the tone of the prosecutor? He's pressing and gaslighting him as his job is to make Nicolae look guilty in anyway possible, and he's saying shit like "lies on top of lies" "that's a detail you added for your benefit", etc.
If there wasn't a video of the incident he would have been immediately tried for first degree murder because all of the delinquents at the scene would have testified against him. There would be no trace of him being pushed down and mobbed on, etc. This wasn't murder and people who think it was are as high as the kids in the video.
@@everydaysamething You’re drunk, then.
He brought a knife into their space and when they told him to leave he started stabbing them. He assaulted the girl first, and he made the first contact on the guys in the tubes when he first approached. When they asked him what he was doing he stayed silent and so they called him names. “Sticks & Stones will break your bones but Knives will disembowel you….” The only ground to stand was the teenager’s.
@@scottbaxendale323 I'm going to assume you didn't watch the video. He didn't start stabbing them when they said to leave. He stabbed them only after they pushed him down into the water and started hitting and shoving him multiple times. This is from a crowd of 10+ people who have been yelling at him and closing in on him over the last few minutes. That is a mob, and a mob doesn't need a knife to kill someone, so yes, he had plenty of reason to think his life might be in danger.
Why is he on the stand if he can’t remember anything.
Literally all the kids had conflicting stories.
So the jurors would feel sorry for this bully.
You do realize, traumatic events can cause memory loss right? It goes to show how ignorant you are. Pathetic,
@@justice-jb5ld The bully teenagers. Right! I agree.
Of course he remember! Those boys and women who stand as witness are ones can't remember most of the incidents. All of them, they change their story after they talk to each other and after the prosecution talked to them. ALL OF THEM.
this is a case where zero testimony is necessary. all the evidence needed is on video.
If I was a juror I couldn't convict him of 1st DEGREE MURDER. The state overcharged him.
A not-guilty verdict does not mean that the defendant is innocent, but rather that the prosecution has not met its burden of proving guilt. Innocent, on the other hand, refers to the actual state of the defendant. It means that the defendant did not commit the crime they are being accused of.
You also didn’t watch any details except the ones you want. Each council can present lesser charges, and they did. So he will be convicted of the lesser charges, especially because the defense agreed with a few and already contested a few more
Agreed. I feel bad for this man. It's terrible all that took place and the young man had to lose his life as a result. It's just sad all the way around.
It should be a re trial for 2nd degree murder and 5 charges of assault in the 1st degree
Nope.Innocent until proven guilty.
Its sickening that anyone would defend this guy's actions. He absolutely did commit the crimes he's accused of, the video evidence doesn't lie. He's literally sitting here admitting his own guilt word after word, and you're just defending his depravity.
I’m so fallible. I watched the defense earlier and said he was being unjustifiably convicted. Now I watch this, and my opinion has changed. Don’t believe anything before you have the full story. Lesson learned for me.
I completely agree! I was thinking "those teen boys are the aggressors". Now that I've heard almost all the testimonials, I'd say he GUILTY!
Respect due to you Paul. Some people will never see or know.
Exactly
Humility has to be one of the best human traits - it's so refreshing to see such a self-aware person out here. Could not agree with you more Paul, this is a good reminder how fickle our perspectives can be
I watched the whole trial. It is very sad day for justice since a man who defended himself against a drunken mob is going to prison for the rest of his life. He should be home with his family.
For all of you arguing. He’s in jail where he is supposed to be. Justice has been served. Now your teens are safe at the lake
58:00 It appears Mr. Miu has a speech processing disorder. I also freeze and become non-verbal when I am afraid. It must be rare to become non-verbal because no one else is noticing how much he struggles to give complete answers the questions. He doesn't defend himself as other people would do in his situation. ...this is most unfortunate for him.
I react in a similar way. Can't think of the words until a lot later.
I thought he has a accent from a foreign country?
Disagree. English is his second language. Edit: it’s not his first language.
@@l-train7876I heard it was his fifth
@@jmtoch1266he knows 5 but it’s definitely not his “fifth.” there isn’t any sort of information out that would make your comment a real fact. plus i know it’s not true since we can hear that his english is pretttttty good, just has an accent
This guy lashed out with the knife out of anger. He had plenty of opportunity to walk around them and go back to his friends.
Agree but his ego got in the way.
Absolutely. He chose to murder rather than retreat.
I absolutely agree!!
Yep! Agree 100%
He is definitely a psychopath in waiting
How convenient he doesn’t remember any of the lies he told but anything that helps his case he can recall. That’s not suspect at all. Lies are hard to keep track of but the truth is always easy to remember.
That's exactly what every other witness did - but I guess that proves their innocence to you.
His lies were exposed multiple times in this video
Hahaha his memory is hilarious and his attorney led him into every single answer
Well the other witnesses didn’t stab multiple people, killing one, gutting another, and then pretending like they didn’t know what happened.
Ha 😂 wow did you see prosecutions witnesses 😂😂😂😂
I really feel for this man. Those young alcohol fuelled people provoked, taunted and abused him in a disgusting manor. You wouldn’t treat a dog like that.
There have been situations where teens have killed other teens and adults for merely standing up to bullies and trying to protect the victim.
He stabbed several people and murdered one. At the point where you don’t do that when someone’s bullying you
@@Piat65
Huh? You’re joking right? This was more than just words… They were physically assaulting him as a mob!
@@anti-ethniccleansing465after he hit a girl lol. He also made contact with the minors first and that sparked the bullying
@@anti-ethniccleansing465it’s not self defense once you start stabbing innocent bystanders, such as Riley.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465they were rowdy and rude but I don’t think he was attacked
JUST BECAUSE YOU ‘DON’T’ REMEMBER IT DOESN’T MEAN IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
In Court saying " I don't remember" is only way to 100% protect one from a perjury charge. It's standard procedure response. Or pleasing the fifth which does not always make one look innocent.
Carried a knife for 10 years. "It is my tool" "I use it for everything "
"I didn't know if the blade was up " Lol
The jury dropped the ball and failed .. these were punks who attacked a man who had no choice but to defend himself.
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Did you watch this whole video? He ran up to the kid in the inner tube and started touching him and the kids saying whoa, whoa. None of those kids knew what his intentions were and that he was thinking the kid in the tube had his phone.
he had a knife in his pocket while river rafting, pulled his knife out before any violence even happened in front of two women to say the least. watch the whole video next time bud
@@shannonhart9374 Jury Dropped the Ball... The man was attacked by a group of Drunk, High on Drugs punks, ''Did you take any of that into consideration? ''Obviously Not''
DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AND TRIAL????????? HE ADMITTED TO EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!! Although painful to watch, he admitted to everything
After watching the police camera where he's lying about not knowing nothing that's going on is not a black out or shock. He's trying to get out of the shit he caused.
That doesn’t mean it wasn’t still self defense-
He is a lier and if there was no video of the stabbing, he would have escaped the police. His anger flared up during the questioning. He has to control his reactions. He didn’t look sorry one bit when he looked at the video of the stabbing. He looked intensely at his handy work. He is full of shit.
@@anne-michelefortmann5246 He's guilty of lying and defending himself. Can we agree o that? We should not trust anything he says. Everyone else clearly lied. We should not trust anything they say either. We just have to look at the video. And in the video everyone is harassing him, surrounding him, he's not looking for little girls or hurting anyone and just wants to look for his stuff, he gets touched, yelled at, and he takes out a pocket knife and as he's being knocked down over and over he stabs people because he wants them to get away and stop. Unfortunately someone dies. I don't think he even wanted to kill anyone, I didn't even know until now that a pocket knife like that could kill people, I thought that's why there's limits to their sizes.
@@anne-michelefortmann5246
Nonsense. It’s the exact opposite - if there was no video, this would have been a slam dunk case for the prosecution, which is exactly why Nic lied in the beginning out of pure fear that he’d never be believed with the full truth. It was his word against a Lord of the Flies mob of 13’s word, and they were already lying about him from the beginning with all the horrendous accusations they made against him and names they called him. Luckily the chump that started all of this (Cockfield) filmed it “for the culture,” which vindicates Nic acting in self defense.
P.S. The word is spelled “liar,” kid. Not “lier.”
@@anne-michelefortmann5246
That’s absurd. It’s the exact opposite of your claim- if there was no video, this would have been a slam dunk case for the prosecution, which is exactly why Nic lied in the beginning out of pure fear that he’d never be believed with the full truth. It was Nic’s word against the mob of 13’s word, and they were already lying about him from the beginning with all the horrendous name calling and accusations they made against him - things that are the worst you can ever call a man or say about a man.
Luckily the arse that started all of this (Cockfield) filmed it “for the culture,” which vindicates Nic acting in self defense.
And there was no “anger flaring up” in Nic’s testimony here. Why are YOU fibbing so much??
By the way, the word is spelled “liar,” kid. Not “lier.”
Prosecution: “If your anger scale was a pepperoni pizza, how many pepperoni’s would be on your pizza?”
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This guy has lost mad weight. What a nightmare this whole case has been, every single person in this case has lied at some point
The guy that got disembowled lost weight even quicker!
Honestly, i assumed his defense team recommended he lose some, so he looks smaller...?
It's cause he's clearly an alcoholic & easily lost weight while not being able to drink. One of the first things he said to the interrogator was, "I've been drinking all day with no water"
@@rileem1 alcohol slows the metabolism... Ever heard of a beer gut? Walk on with your bullsh**.
After watching, and rewatching most of the videos in this case, I've learned that pretty much everyone involved are all incredible liars.
Even with video evidence they continue to spread manure. Incredible.
Cooked at 56:05 - lied to the officer saying they pulled a knife on him, now on the stand - no one pulled a knife on him. He made the first attack by pushing the chick screaming at him, while he had a knife in his hand!!!!! Her friend defended her by punching him, he falls down, gets slapped maybe one more time and pushed back down - he proceeds to stab 5 people, kills one of them, guts another one - sorry, that's not self defense - that's anger and by the way, where did he learn how to kill like that with a pocket knife!?!? What, is he a Green Beret or something?!!?
You need to watch the video again.
If he had special training he would have used only his hands and wouldn't have had to use a knife.
I totally lost all sympothy when seen the video of him telling cops he heard someone got stabbed n he heard he matched description. He wasnt honest bout it when confronted at first .Shows guilt
shows residual fear.
Or fear
He was scared!
@@BubbieDesaihe wasn’t scared. He didn’t show fear when he made zero effort to leave those kids alone. He wasn’t scared when he pulled a concealed weapon and went after the the girl when she had backed away and stabbed her so bad he drove the blade all the way into her. He wasn’t scared after he stabbed her cuz he continued to stab 4 more people even though he was outnumbered. He stabbed all those kids, walked back to his group and proceeded to continue down the river. Scared would be running out of that river and hiding. Not acting like he did nothing wrong. He’s absolutely mental.
YUP. This is what changed my feeling from innocent to guilty.
This prosecutor is efffing terrible at this.
This is an assistant, the elected prosecutor is going to let him take the loss.
Prosecutor sounds like he's trying to make a movie out of what the guy said instead of what it showed in the video
I can't believe they brought that insanely unreliable witness on the stand too. This man should be free..
Nah. The defendant is innocent. That's all.
How? He broke the scene down second by second, frame by frame, and discredited almost everything Mr.Miu said to the police and investigators. He’s playing chess not checkers.
The forensic nurse who examined Mr. Mui said he was on a drug for PTSD. His over-reaction to this threat suggests he may have had a situation similar to this earlier in his life. Was he a soldier? Events as a child in Romania? This event triggered his extreme violence that seems totally out of proportion to the threat.
I agree. PTSD can really mess with the individual.
In the police interview that he literally lied about everything he did mention that he was in the cold war.
@@George-mf3iv Do you even know what the cold war is? Good lord, these comments...
Over reaction to getting attacked by a group of strong drunk males? I assure you , if you were in that situation you wouldn’t think of defending yourself as an overreaction.
I wondered about that as well
I seriously hope this man gets a new trial and gets to go home. These punks should’ve been held accountable for what they did to him as well.
Oh my - seems he cannot stop lying trying to make himself look not guilty. Good grief.
He isn’t guilty he was attacked and defended himself nothing more if I was him there would of been a lot more damage done to that gang
I believe him. They all thought they were tough guys and mouthy girls/women. No of them had any right to get up in his face, throw slurs or pit their hands on him. They saw him as an easy target to look like tough guys. It it so unfortunate for the one who died. With all the cheering name calling and them surrounding him I truly believe he feared for his life/safety. The video speaks for itself. And he remembers as much as those that were bullying him. They were all laughing until he fought back I can understand how he couldn't possibly remember everything after 7 or more people were up in his face. I hope he is found innocent.
He's not guilty. Anybody with eyes and ears can watch the video and see that. Hopefully he sues the state for false imprisonment and sues the kids for assault.
It’s absolutely horrifying his lawyer made the worst mistake having him take the stand…. And not atleast coaching this dude jesus
This dude earned that prison sentence plus. Horrific what he did stabbing and slashing those kids.
Not really. It’s odd that those “kids” encircled and yelled at a man for snorkeling. They found out.
Surprising that he doesn't remember anything that is not in his favour.
Same could be said about the group of jackals if you are being honest.
I missed a couple of witness testimonies but if I was on the jury, I’d find Mr Miu guilty. Not sure which charge but he chose to show bravado instead of walking away.
Kids were punks though. Shameful!!
you would find him guilty but you're not sure what charge? Grow up.
Watch the video. Not guilty
@@staymadcheaters5066 He admitted to "I stood my ground" in a non stand your ground state & said he pushed Maddie & that was after he had the knife out with the blade open.
That's an ignorant statement, NOT having heard all points of view... why bother commenting if you don't care to look/hear all the facts... SMH
@@staymadcheaters5066yes because as of today we’ll end of today they added lesser charges so my assumption would be that is what OP was referring to
Come what may with this case. He lied on his statement about the knife when he was first interviewed. What happened later, should never have ended in. one dead ,one disembowelled and others cut. Its a terrible tragedy from a bruised ego. He's also ex military and knew how to handle himself. He actually demonstrated that at his interview, although he said it wasn't his knife at that time.
Lol who would now what to do in a intense situation? where what u say don't say is used against you? Only lawyers would know.
Maddie’s behavior was despicable. I hope she realizes that she caused that entire situation.
Who is Maddie?!? I need to look at more videos
She was part in causing a nuisance, and a nuisance it would have stayed, if not for other people.
Many were in the wrong. One killed someone.
Let me guess, you have been annoying to someone, at some point in your life. I sure have. Luckily this guy wasn't there to start stabbing people.
You are totally right. If the justice system were fair, she should have been the one in jail. I’m sorry for this man; he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got surrounded by a bunch of punks and a Karen. The fact that everything started with them calling him a creep is enough to know that these were a bunch of social media-influenced idiots.
She did!
The black dude filming started the whole situation