Great video on this topic! I've been thinking of endurance races for fpv whenever I watch races or race clips. Like they have WEC for cars, if the batteries and the thermal performance of the boards can keep up with a certain mark, these endurance races would be amazing to watch.
nevermind the 3-d printer; cnc cutter, sticker cutter, this man has all the things. Holy sheeeez that's zippy! The higher pitched props should be good for the racers and speed demons.
Damnnn! Once again QLD Australia pushing the RnD boundaries for what constitutes as the standards 💪 Can’t wait to see where this goes man! Exciting times...
Really nice video! The sticker decals (vinyl I’m guessing) were a nice touch. Yet more proof that a bigger drone and a giant batterie isn’t always the answer for long flight times. That’s probably why my bixler 2 on a 2200 3s gets more flight time than a GoPro carrying 6000 mah setup. (Well I guess there’s a diminishing return between flight time and batterie size because of weight).
Hey mate cheers, That's vinyl yeah. Adds a little flair. Absolutely, I've tried stacking batteries to the moon too but it doesn't always work out unfortunately.
Goodday! Stickers are good, also I can recommend to use light reflecfing stickers, the same which are used making road signs, so, if someday Your drone gets lost, You can go around at night time to find it using powerful light torch and looking where in field or woods You see reflecting ligt blinks. Good luck! Also, what I can say - 50gr frame weight is good, and maybe sharkbyte also is less heavy than dji hd?
You never disappoint, man! If you aren't on any of the big boy manufacturer's R/D staff, you should be! Like as Head of Dept! Please keep them vids comin! And please keep me in mind if you ever do allow private purchases. Thank you man.
Nice video.. wish I could keep my workspace that clean. I've got shit everywhere. Frame looks a bit like the iFlight Dove. I built one for flying without a gopro, nice and light build with massive flight times.
I have now watched this video like 20 times. So impressive! 2 questions. 1: other people building ultra light builds have mentioned that FPV is tricky on really light builds as the camera angle needs to be so crazy like 60+ degrees because the quad just wants to climb, have you found that?? 2: you mentioned a slightly different “freestyle” setup. Any details? What would you change? Or is a follow up vid coming? Thanks gain for the sweet content!
Haha thanks for the views! Flying this quad is no different to my typical race quads in terms of "floaty feel" Being on the power most of the time probably negates this a little however. I do run high cam angles (~55) on everything so your experience might differ if you fly at say, 15 degrees. Yeah video is coming on the 'freestyle' build. It's similar just a squish design and different antenna mounting basically. Still a bottom mount battery.
I got 2 dead on arrival FC. I only got to test half a 4s li-ion on my 5" long range. ended at 13.2v using 1800mah (3000mah batter) and flew for 24mins.
Can't go wrong with an Explorer. Check out Dave's Rekon ones too. As for cost, less than a typical race build as the motors/AIO is a bit cheaper. I'm in Australia though so prices are a little skewed to give you a number sorry.
I’m trying to decide on what motors to use on the Black Opal I got from cnc drones. I see you tried several different sizes and I was wondering if one motor stood out from the others in terms of performance? FWIW, The 5mm version came out at 50grams.
The 2005 really packs a punch but you have to live with T-Mount props. I'd probably still go with the F2203.5 but higher kv unless you want that max flight time. There's a 2000kv variant in that now too.
Amazing build and nice video. Do you think that with a gopro hero 9 and a dji fpv air unit on it it Will be capable to do fresstyle with a good acceleration? Thank you
Hi Scott, your videos inspired me to build an ultra light 5" LR quad. I understand that low kV motors are more efficient, correct? Is it a good idea to go with ~1500 kV if I will primarily run 4S? What would be the efficiency difference of higher kV motors? I primarily care about the longest flight time and not racing (although having an option to put a 6S for a quick rip would be nice). Do you think 2005 is better for this than 2203.5 you previously tested?
It's faster and more agile than my typical race quads. I like the fact there's less momentum in the turns too so it can tighten up corners and spirals for pilots like myself who tend to overshoot features. My concerns are more around durability of the T-Mount props (and the longevity of the actual motor mounting holes etc) It's still a relatively new concept build to me so I can update once I've really hashed it out. I'm quietly confident though.
Cheers mate! I've posted a few misc vids over the last year or so but really just since the last few months I've put in some more effort. Hope to see you drop by again.
@@ScottTomlinson awesome I would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. let me know when you have an hour or so to chat fpv! I'm in EST so figure the time difference and when's good!
All five props I showed in the video are T-Mount? (The Gemfan are both T-Mount and 5mm if you don't use the adapter) I'd argue majority of the ultralight prop are actually T-Mount.
@@ScottTomlinson they looked like m5 and i havent much available 5inch in t mount here in uk. If those you showed also come i t mount thats great news. Looking to build an ultralite 5 next
Very cool! Love the build! I came across this because I am designing a sub 250g 5 inch freestyle quad for my final year engineering project. I just recently got into FPV and love it! As it stands I am considering using a modified TBS Source podracer frame (adding standoffs and top plate by slightly elongating the bottom plate to allow mounting all the components and leave enough room for a GoPro on top; bottom mount battery). Considering using these same motors on 4S at 2000kv. I have just heard/read that the higher kV on such a light 5inch build becomes less ideal for smoother/tighter freestyle control so I'm trying to lower KV as much as possible without loosing too much speed on the top end. Is there any input you might have into this reasoning or any suggestions you might make for motor selection in this case? Thanks!
@@SirAdrian1st it's nearly finished and I am presenting it next week. It's come out so well I'm actually considering marketing it at this point. Will post a video about it in a few weeks on my channel and that should have more details about the frame on there 👌
@@SirAdrian1st also, note I actually ended up going with smaller motors to drop the AUW but still keeping necessary freestyle performance. AUW with a 530mah HV Lipo comes to 199g. That leaves enough room to add a naked GP or insta360 and even swap out the analogue for a naked DJI vista and still be 250g with the action cam included. I also made optional TPU protector prints for the arms and motors.
Hi, first of all, nice video and could you tell me which cutter you use and which feeds and speeds to cut the carbon frames? I have a CNC at home but as far as I know, carbon isn't easy to work with. Found your channel today and instant subbed keep up the great work.
Thanks mate. Speeds and feeds are a bit in depth for a YT comment. Carbon sheet is actually an easy material to work with. Basically you want to use a carbide burr type bit and climb mill everything. Spindle RPM 20,000+ and as fast as your machine will allow without chattering or breaking bits.
Stator volume on a 2005 is greater than a 2203 or 2204. I've tested the T-motor variants extensively. That size is good for the mini long range builds. They don't compare to the 2005 however.
1.5mm and 4mm. It's got so much power you could easily afford to go 2mm and 5mm and cop the 10-15g weight penalty if that worried you. I've put it through actual racing now though and it's holding up ok.
When are you going to make these frames available.
That 40 seconds rip may be some of the best I've ever seen! Awesome video!
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it.
Chief here 🙂 Thanks for the awesome footage of the Chief 2005’s and glad you are enjoying them! Awesome video! 🚀
No, Thank you! Awesome to see you here Alex! Really enjoying them.
I'm a simple man.
I see a Scott Tomlinson video, I click the notification.
Fantastic as always!
Appreciate that mate! Thanks for coming back and checking it out.
Same too.. subscribed and all notifications on..
I love it. Very clean build.
Nice setup man
UL racers are the future, I've been flying one for a year now.
Check out the SpeedSource ULX for a purpose built UL racing frame.
Super Clean,as always. But very well optimized !
The quality of content i thought this is 100k sub channel, you definitely deserve more and im sure you will get it soon.
Maybe one day! Thanks for the love.
looks like the LiIon packs are truly a game changer for flight times, these ultralight quads should change the entire industry.
You might be right!
Agree 100% such a sexy build!
@@slowridefpv9668 that is indeed quadgasm 💯
Great to see the real you, in the flesh, great racing frame and set up!!
Dig the music! I thought I had accidentally played my playlist in the background because I'm not used to people using pop punk for their videos!
Haha thanks Dustin. I was feeling it at the time. Thanks for stopping by!
Cutting edge, great stuff with real depth to your analysis, thank you.
I appreciate your comment mate. Cheers.
Nice looking fleet I mean deck of quads.
Wonder which is the luckiest haha
Another masterpiece ! It's crazy 🚀
Thanks mate! Appreciate it.
Great video on this topic! I've been thinking of endurance races for fpv whenever I watch races or race clips. Like they have WEC for cars, if the batteries and the thermal performance of the boards can keep up with a certain mark, these endurance races would be amazing to watch.
U gained a subscriber from india sir for ur hardwork
JB, make notes of this vid 🤘 Excellent
Fantastic video. I look forward to more about this little monster of a quad
How can I get my hands on one of these frames love the build
Dam that is a clean build. Also the best DVR i've seen in a long time
Thanks mate!
Wow that thing absolutely rips 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I saw the short preview on Facebook and just happened across this vid. Very impressive. That thing is bonkers on the turns! Consider me subscribed!
Appreciate that mate. I'll catch you on the next one!
Gorgeous builds Scott!
Noiceee slow Mo action. And looking awesome as always mate! And btw happy Easter! :)
Cheers man. Hope you have a good holiday too!
Great well edited video mate🔥 keep up the good work 👍
I don't know what to say.... This is sicked avesome! It was nice to see this video!
nevermind the 3-d printer; cnc cutter, sticker cutter, this man has all the things.
Holy sheeeez that's zippy! The higher pitched props should be good for the racers and speed demons.
Haha yeah, it's handy having a few tools. I raced this quad at a local meet all day today. Performed fantastic.
Holy crap! I'll buy a kit! That's gorgeous
Cheers man!
Surprised I haven't seen this channel. Excellent editing love seeing the quad LOS and FPV.
Thanks for checking it out! Probably should have used some different colour props for that part haha.
Damnnn! Once again QLD Australia pushing the RnD boundaries for what constitutes as the standards 💪 Can’t wait to see where this goes man! Exciting times...
It's all happening I know! Are we the new Silicon valley of drones? haha
@@ScottTomlinson how would a 4 inch prop perform with those motor?
Bruh, I would love to see you build a one wheel. It would be sick.
OMG now THAT would be epic!
Not a bad idea! I'll look into it ;)
What's a one wheel?
and hes an Aussie too, on ya mate.
I want to buy this frame 😍!! (Great vidéo, and impressive build)
Looks great and that's some impressive performance!
Thanks mate! It definitely impressed me too
Really nice video! The sticker decals (vinyl I’m guessing) were a nice touch. Yet more proof that a bigger drone and a giant batterie isn’t always the answer for long flight times. That’s probably why my bixler 2 on a 2200 3s gets more flight time than a GoPro carrying 6000 mah setup. (Well I guess there’s a diminishing return between flight time and batterie size because of weight).
I don’t know if you agree. But that’s just what I’ve observed. Which is why mini drones seem to be better at long flight times in most cases.
Hey mate cheers, That's vinyl yeah. Adds a little flair. Absolutely, I've tried stacking batteries to the moon too but it doesn't always work out unfortunately.
Goodday! Stickers are good, also I can recommend to use light reflecfing stickers, the same which are used making road signs, so, if someday Your drone gets lost, You can go around at night time to find it using powerful light torch and looking where in field or woods You see reflecting ligt blinks. Good luck! Also, what I can say - 50gr frame weight is good, and maybe sharkbyte also is less heavy than dji hd?
Nice little quad 👌
Cool review and flying Scott👌
Hey Todd, thanks for checking it out mate. Hope all is well!
Same here love the video first time I seen you I am going to start watching your videos good job brother
Thanks Jose. Appreciate the comment.
Big fan from India 🇮🇳
Thanks for watching.
Is there a way to buy the frame? That thing rips!!
Wow, very interesting
That thing rips
wow, great building!
This looks fun!
Pop punk on an FPV video?!?!? = 😍😍
Another killer build 🔥, I've gotta build myself an ultralight sometime
Cheers buddy!
Your builds are seriously inspiring. Do you have plans to sell frames at any point? I'm having trouble finding a source for CNCing carbon fiber
You never disappoint, man! If you aren't on any of the big boy manufacturer's R/D staff, you should be! Like as Head of Dept!
Please keep them vids comin!
And please keep me in mind if you ever do allow private purchases. Thank you man.
Thanks man. Comments like this keep me inspired! There's a few things happening I'm graciously apart of so you're on the right track.
Awesome build
That is some SWEET dvr!
We need this frame
When are you going to make these frames available.😁
Incridible nice fly
Nice video.. wish I could keep my workspace that clean. I've got shit everywhere.
Frame looks a bit like the iFlight Dove. I built one for flying without a gopro, nice and light build with massive flight times.
Haha I have a few and they definitely don't all look like that.
Killing it mate!
Cheers brother!
I have now watched this video like 20 times. So impressive! 2 questions. 1: other people building ultra light builds have mentioned that FPV is tricky on really light builds as the camera angle needs to be so crazy like 60+ degrees because the quad just wants to climb, have you found that?? 2: you mentioned a slightly different “freestyle” setup. Any details? What would you change? Or is a follow up vid coming? Thanks gain for the sweet content!
Haha thanks for the views! Flying this quad is no different to my typical race quads in terms of "floaty feel" Being on the power most of the time probably negates this a little however. I do run high cam angles (~55) on everything so your experience might differ if you fly at say, 15 degrees. Yeah video is coming on the 'freestyle' build. It's similar just a squish design and different antenna mounting basically. Still a bottom mount battery.
Hi! Have you posted a frame drawing somewhere? I really want to repeat this project.
I got 2 dead on arrival FC. I only got to test half a 4s li-ion on my 5" long range. ended at 13.2v using 1800mah (3000mah batter) and flew for 24mins.
Sucks about the DOA. Nice flight times though.
so satisfying to watch
i like this...my dream to build 5" 6s only 35g 😅
jeez that thing absolutely screams. sick shit man
Hey Scott, would you be interested in working out an Endurance Series - 1 mile out and back. Bardwell seems keen
Nice, good job liked and subscribed
Impressive performance😋
That looks amazing! What is the estimated cost without receiver and battery? And what are your thoughts on Flywoo Explorer lr4?
Can't go wrong with an Explorer. Check out Dave's Rekon ones too. As for cost, less than a typical race build as the motors/AIO is a bit cheaper. I'm in Australia though so prices are a little skewed to give you a number sorry.
@@ScottTomlinson Thank you. I'm in Turkey so same thing for the prices :)
I’m trying to decide on what motors to use on the Black Opal I got from cnc drones.
I see you tried several different sizes and I was wondering if one motor stood out from the others in terms of performance?
FWIW,
The 5mm version came out at 50grams.
The 2005 really packs a punch but you have to live with T-Mount props. I'd probably still go with the F2203.5 but higher kv unless you want that max flight time. There's a 2000kv variant in that now too.
Amazing build and nice video. Do you think that with a gopro hero 9 and a dji fpv air unit on it it Will be capable to do fresstyle with a good acceleration? Thank you
Naked vista and GoPro might work. If you're going Air unit and full Gopro then a typical 5 inch build is likely best still
@@ScottTomlinson I see. Thank you 👍🏻
Wow that looks and sounds so fast wow !
Thanks mate. I love the sound too!
Wow! That thing is fast!
that thing is speedy sheesh
@Scott Tomlinson do you sell these custom frames? Very interested.
Hi Scott, your videos inspired me to build an ultra light 5" LR quad. I understand that low kV motors are more efficient, correct? Is it a good idea to go with ~1500 kV if I will primarily run 4S? What would be the efficiency difference of higher kV motors? I primarily care about the longest flight time and not racing (although having an option to put a 6S for a quick rip would be nice). Do you think 2005 is better for this than 2203.5 you previously tested?
You have every tool I want
Haha still not enough!
I really like this drone setup. Can you recommend an FPV cam with 5km range ? Battery pack for 30min ?
How does it do on a track? Can it keep up with more traditional 5 inch race builds?
It's faster and more agile than my typical race quads. I like the fact there's less momentum in the turns too so it can tighten up corners and spirals for pilots like myself who tend to overshoot features. My concerns are more around durability of the T-Mount props (and the longevity of the actual motor mounting holes etc) It's still a relatively new concept build to me so I can update once I've really hashed it out. I'm quietly confident though.
Lite is fast! Those frames are beautiful. Blues my color, lol
Thankyou! It was my first choice too haha
Really nice build, i like it. Is there any option to get the files for the frame? Or buying somewhere?
lil depressing knowing I can't buy dese little marvels, Thanks Scott for an other cool vid.
Working on that man! Thanks for jumping back on to check out the new vid
This is the fist video of yours I've seen. This is so slick, I'm binge watching all of your other vids now.
Cheers mate! I've posted a few misc vids over the last year or so but really just since the last few months I've put in some more effort. Hope to see you drop by again.
@@ScottTomlinson I definitely will! 👍
Nice
Lol subbed this time i lost you for a year! Yay youtube suggestions!
Perfect timing. Back on YT and got a few projects in the works
@@ScottTomlinson awesome I would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. let me know when you have an hour or so to chat fpv! I'm in EST so figure the time difference and when's good!
Really nice . How are you mounting those props though ? All the suggested ones are m5 nut and motors all seem to be t mount thesecdays very confusing
All five props I showed in the video are T-Mount? (The Gemfan are both T-Mount and 5mm if you don't use the adapter) I'd argue majority of the ultralight prop are actually T-Mount.
@@ScottTomlinson they looked like m5 and i havent much available 5inch in t mount here in uk. If those you showed also come i t mount thats great news. Looking to build an ultralite 5 next
So when is going to be for sale?!?
im impresed, where has this chanel been? why am i only just seeing this guys stuff today?
Cheers mate, only just recently I've been focusing on YT stuff. Hopefully you'll stick around for future vids!
In looking for a good 5 inch ultra light long range quad to build. Any recommendations on a good frame? Thanks.
Sick man ..
Damn, that's a rocket!
its only me,when i crash with my quad my esc always burn...4in1.. every time i hit blades, the esc off and i need to replace it... >(
Ah that sucks mate. Are you running an external capacitor? Hopefully you have RPM filtering enabled too.
You didn't have signal problems with the antenna being so short?
Nah, race quad has no problem. I'd run an extended one if going LR or doing more freestyle oriented stuff.
killing it!! these vids are the best. you got motorized dolly now? :O
Cheers bud! Haha I may have picked up a new thing or two ;)
subbed - killer content
i am hoping this frame will be availbe somewhere nice build :)
Clean af! 😍🔥🔥🔥
Very cool! Love the build! I came across this because I am designing a sub 250g 5 inch freestyle quad for my final year engineering project. I just recently got into FPV and love it! As it stands I am considering using a modified TBS Source podracer frame (adding standoffs and top plate by slightly elongating the bottom plate to allow mounting all the components and leave enough room for a GoPro on top; bottom mount battery). Considering using these same motors on 4S at 2000kv. I have just heard/read that the higher kV on such a light 5inch build becomes less ideal for smoother/tighter freestyle control so I'm trying to lower KV as much as possible without loosing too much speed on the top end. Is there any input you might have into this reasoning or any suggestions you might make for motor selection in this case? Thanks!
Will you share the frame?
@@SirAdrian1st it's nearly finished and I am presenting it next week. It's come out so well I'm actually considering marketing it at this point. Will post a video about it in a few weeks on my channel and that should have more details about the frame on there 👌
@@SirAdrian1st also, note I actually ended up going with smaller motors to drop the AUW but still keeping necessary freestyle performance. AUW with a 530mah HV Lipo comes to 199g. That leaves enough room to add a naked GP or insta360 and even swap out the analogue for a naked DJI vista and still be 250g with the action cam included. I also made optional TPU protector prints for the arms and motors.
Hi, first of all, nice video and could you tell me which cutter you use and which feeds and speeds to cut the carbon frames? I have a CNC at home but as far as I know, carbon isn't easy to work with. Found your channel today and instant subbed keep up the great work.
Thanks mate. Speeds and feeds are a bit in depth for a YT comment. Carbon sheet is actually an easy material to work with. Basically you want to use a carbide burr type bit and climb mill everything. Spindle RPM 20,000+ and as fast as your machine will allow without chattering or breaking bits.
@@ScottTomlinson Thanks for the info, guess I will have to try out myself wish me luck. :)
Can add me on FB mate. Happy to chat more.
you should try out the fpvcycle 2203 motors, they are absolutley amazing on smth like this. Absolutley smooth and crazy throttle controll!
Stator volume on a 2005 is greater than a 2203 or 2204. I've tested the T-motor variants extensively. That size is good for the mini long range builds. They don't compare to the 2005 however.
@@ScottTomlinson in terms of throttle controll snd smoothness?
The 2203/4 motors tend to peak/flatten out after say 75% throttle. Fine for the cruising rigs but not really race capable just from my experience.
@@ScottTomlinsonwhat about the axisflying c224 motors, have you tried them?
@@BowOneFire I haven't yet. Specs look good for a 4S build due to the kv. A little bit beefier though at 2204.5
First of all, nice video man. I hope this is getting a new hype.👍
But i got a question there:
How thick are all of your plates?
1.5mm and 4mm. It's got so much power you could easily afford to go 2mm and 5mm and cop the 10-15g weight penalty if that worried you. I've put it through actual racing now though and it's holding up ok.
Where did you get a frame with 12x12 motor mount?? I have this motors, but I can get any frame!
Check out the SpeedSource ULX for a purpose built UL racing frame.
I really need your help. Could you please post your pids. I just need a starting point. My quad is as close to a build as I can get yours. Thanks