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The Legend of Game 4 MkLeo
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- The statistics don't lie. Mexico's T1 MkLeo is undeniably the best Super Smash Brothers Ultimate player in the world. What led MkLeo to this spot? Let's review the analytics!
Director: Thomas "Tisch" Tischio
Lead Producer/VO Artist: Walt "Turndownforwalt" Brandsema
Editor: Laura "CosmicCrouton" Crespo
Lead Writer: Jack "Jackie Peanuts" Moore
Writer: Zane "epengu" Bhansali
Lead Motion Designer: JD "JDMH_" Mannor
GFX Designer: Paula "Devilmaycats" Valbuena
GFX Designer: Nathan "Dr Narouh" Ingrao
Spanish subtitles by: José "Toon" Laguna
Song list:
Temple of Runha - ELFL
Hadouken - Lupus Nocte
A Nebula Inside - ELFL
2 of Us - Emil Axelsson
Compton Daydream - Push N' Glide
Atmospherica - Squiid
Fast Vision - Dramma Beatz
Up First - Dramma Beatz
Venus - Squiid
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Did you know that In order to bring his reverse 3-0 win rate down to the average, MkLeo would need to lose his next 75 consecutive sets where he goes down 0-2?
Looking to learn more about the statistical anomaly that is MkLeo: pgstats.com/articles/more-numbers-behind-leos-legendary-comebacks
That's crazy
This is a Steph Curry stat. wtf
@@NRobbi42 so, which sport is this steph curry at? I almost never wat real life sports for the past 15 years
@@jirehtheprovider Steph is the best 3-point shooter of all time in basketball. To bring his shooting average down to 2nd place, he would have to miss about 500 consecutive shots.
The fact that the way you beat Leo is “3-0 or lose” sounds so fake if you’re outside the Smash Bros scene, it’s legitimately fiction come true, he’s the secret final boss
Sounds like some anime villain sh!t
Kurama cheesed the route
i wouldn't use the word 'secret'
it reminds me of "the only way is through" except you're staring down a painted tunnel like in a looney tunes.
He's the main character. Sometimes he needs to be utterly defeated by the bad guy in the beginning. But once the final battle comes around, of course it's going to be a comeback from two losses.
“Leo has the best mentality of any smash player ever” Mew2king 2021
I remember after he lost Genesis 7 he tweeted something along the lines of "that was so fun! I've never played better in my entire life" idk what kind of mentality it takes to say that you played the best in your whole life when talking about an underperformance but he's got that mentality.
I’d argue that Zain is at least close mentality wise. Neither one of them looks downcast when they lose, they just pick themselves up and better themselves for the next one
@@ayyyyMan I'm not a fan of this argument. Tweek loses even though he's got all the momentum going into a set. He had 8 games in a row on Leo going into Game 3 at Riptide, but he lost because Leo just played better.
You can't tell me that mentality is the only reason he loses when he has a bracket demon in the form of Goblin (who's a very good player, but is nowhere near the top 10), loses to Elegant when he already beat him 3-0 before that, Dark Wizzy beating him after a huge slump in performance etc.
Sometimes you just gotta accept that it's not Tweek playing worse cuz of mentality issues and that the players facing him just outplayed him.
@@Sancnea I would agree, the game is mostly mental anyway. muscle memory and composure influence execution and then the rest is mental. I think my top 5 in the world at the moment would be 1-Leo 2-Sparg0 3-Protobanham 4-Tweek 5- probably Zackray
@@foks0054 Ofc it does, but this idea of Tweek only losing cuz of his bad mentality needs to stop. He's gone into games with a ton of momentum and mentality at an all time high and still lost badly.
The animation for the Evo set was sooooooo cool, big respect to whoever did it!
definitely better than footage imo
ruclips.net/channel/UCUQPDGys6Y5vEZz4zMq2Eow
wait this has no context but where is your pfp from? it looks really nice and would I like to commit larceny
@@amaramist_ hey, it's uraraka from my hero academia, I can't remember the artist but if you just search uraraka fan art this image is pretty popular!
ESAM once said: "How is Leo so fast with the slowest character in the game?"
Also said he would quit if he lost to said character LOL
ESAM says a lot of shit
@@Matanumi hes not wrong in this instance tbf
Leo Incineroar pog
Those rotoscoped animations are beautiful.
It was probably this guy if you wanna see more: ruclips.net/channel/UCUQPDGys6Y5vEZz4zMq2Eow
I am sad this ends at Port Priority, we don't get to see the absurd comeback vs sparg0 a few weeks later
I thought the video was going to end with that runback with spargo :( it was soo gooood
According to a statistic it's more likely for someone to lose when they're up 2/0 against Leo. Like...this isn't just a crazy statistic in the history of smash, it's a crazy statistic in the history of competetive games in general. And it's obviously not against some randoms, it's against the best in the world
i love mkleo's headshake after stuff HE does to other players. hes just like "shit that sucks for you man" or maybe its a "i shouldnt of been able to do that"
Well never know the meaning behind it 🤔
He knows how it feels to be on the other side he is showing empathy
I've always felt it's more like Leo thinking about the mistakes he made in that game going "damn, if they punished that I woulda been done, I gotta play better!"
I almost feel like it’s “there no way that should have work”
It's like he's a pro playing with amateurs. "Oops, maybe I shouldn't be cheesing KOs like that with a casual player."
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When he was asked “how do you do it?” He shrugged his shoulders & says at this point, I’m just not thinking of making a comeback. I’m just gonna try to give it my best & have fun or something like that.
like a damn anime protagonist
Then he did it again at Mainstage, then again at Smash World Tour Finals. This legend will continue as long as Leo remains the most clutch player in the world
Yeah Port6 wasn’t even the last continuation of this legend. MainStage and World Tour Finals he just did it again and again and again. It happens so many times that it’s become a hype!
Our next long form piece will focus on the kid, the buster, and the GOAT of Melee. Coming soon!
I hope Walt is doing that one too :)
My god yes!!!!
I can't wait for this video on Mew2King
My favorite MKLeo story is from the most recent smash summit. In winner's Spargo has to fight Zachray with Aegis vs Joker. Spargo beats Joker and sends Zachray down to losers to fight MKLeo. MKLeo doesn't want to do the Joker ditto so he goes Aegis vs Zachray's Joker and wins. Then in Loser's finals MKLeo has to vs Spargo and again doesn't want to go the ditto. So he opts for the literal opposite of the matchup he just played and goes Joker vs Spargo's Aegis and wins taking him to grand finals. Zachray had it rough losing the same matchup twice, Spargo won once then lost to Leo, and MKLeo ended up winning the same matchup twice from both sides 😅
Hate to be that guy, but it's Zackray, not Zachary! Smash summit was insane though, you're right.
@@danielfloformentin951 touche thanks for the heads up
Mk Leo basically told Sparg0 and Zackray that “I’m you but better”. He has such a wealth of characters he’s completely dominant with. Joker, Byleth, Aegis, Lucina/Marth, Ike, Wolf even…
@@sonymicronin And now Corrin too lol
@@Rubenlostit And suddenly ROB?!?! 👀
*HE. IS. MEXICAN.*
I think Leo just has the works for being a legend. His neutral, advantage, disadvantage, adaption, combos, gameplay etc. is pretty much always optimized. He has lots of experience at the top and nerves of steel. He also wins far more often than not, and everyone is nervous looking up at the final boss, whereas he is just playing another person. He pretty much has all that it takes to be the ultimate smash player 95% of the time, hence the occasional loss. I think what seperates top players from Leo- sheeps from goats, even- is that nobody quite has Leo's nerves and consistency, in my opinion.
Where is the 'Leo vs Samsora SmashCon Grand Finals'?? LITERALLY the definition of game 4 Leo
kinda sucks that they cant mention samsora or anyone that was canceled
@@adriannngp2012 ???? they literally talked about Samsora at the beggining
While Sam at smash con was the definition of Game 4 Leo, he’s also the person who shot down Game 4 Leo three times in a single tournament at Shine, Winners and both Grand sets
I'm surprised there was no mention of Leo vs. Samsora Smashcon GF. It's the set that cemented the legend with it being a carbon copy of what happened at Evo 19 with Tweek.
They probably don't wanna talk about Samsora given he's a banned player
@@ARAGHOSTA but they already did
@@ghxstleader485 They didn't really highlight him thougu
@@ARAGHOSTA why is he banned
Legitimately one of the best Smash documentary-style videos I’ve ever seem. Amazing job!
I wonder if PGStats can give Leo's overall record in Game 5 sets.
There have been times where he was down 1-2 (the Cosmos sets are pretty notable for this) and times where he has lost Game 5 sets, but I think it paints a really good picture of something that also feels like a known fact even if it isn't infallible:
The longer a set goes on, the more likely Leo is to win.
In game 5 sets, he has won 42 and lost 15. Out of the 15 he lost, only 4 of them were reverse 3-0s, and he was playing Marth for 2 out of the 4.
@@everettm3301 What were the reverse 3-0s? I know tweek at frostbite was one of them
@@user-el1nv9hd1l
Tweek at Frostbite
Ken at EGS Cup
ESAM at Ultimate Summit 2
Samsora at Genesis 7
Looking back, I think I got mixed up with some of the msm sets. Only 1 of these was with Marth (vs ESAM).
@@everettm3301 Oh ok, good shit. Do you know those by memory or is there data somewhere like pgstats or something?
@@user-el1nv9hd1l You can find this data on PGstats.com as well!
Such a well-made and entertaining video. Hope to see more of these in the future!
great content but there is a few things that can be improved:
-the chart with all the connections is overwhelming, even the one with only red and green squares, is hard to follow
-there was a lot of repetition of the "we know what is going to happen right? .." sentence.
- the analysis of marss counterpick stage was kinda off, it was just a mistake and in that case there should be an analysis of the other matches
It’s not the crowd that made the difference at riptide either it’s the fact that Leo studied his vods from summit and went to riptide to right the wrongs which he did.
and more importantly, he had more belief in his byleth who was unanimously considered a worse character than pyrah/mythra but was Leo's clear favorite character
incredible video, leo is literally making history for esports
this video is just Walt contradicting and repeating himself for 30 minutes. 10/10
I still can't believe I met Leo here in CDMX while playing in a big videogame place before he became champion.
He's a very cool dude and I respect him massively
The fact that the only time he lost the most sacred game was when he SD on his last stock against Marss is absolutely insane 😂
Leo's the best because he sees the game as just a game. While everyone's out there stressing and missing showers hes in Flow State because the game is so fun to him. Its quite relatable
It’s so fun to him because he’s so good to it. Hard to keep a flow state when you’re getting your ass whooped. I can agree with not taking the game too seriously though especially if it’s not ur job(which it shouldn’t be unless you’re around Leo’s level)
10:30 that animation looks so cool wow
It's sad that we don't have the elite 4 anymore. It's just leo as *THE* Champion.
I guess that means.. he made it. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Who were the elite 4?
@@sencrew5293 It used to be Tweek, Samsora, Marss, and Nairo as the Elite 4 to Leo as the Champion. Now, with Samsora banned, Nairo not attending tournaments, and both Marss and Tweek having a burnout, there's no Elite 4 for Leo. It's just him. Standing at the top.
@@Abbaschand I can see Leo disappearing like the avatar if this keeps up. Leo loves a challenge and if no one can dethrone him whats the point??
@@sencrew5293 Leo said it on his stream "Competing in Smash is literally my Job" which fits perfectly considering his story of rarning money through winning tournaments to provide for his family
I don't think He's gonna Retire anytime soon
Also, Challenge is still there like Tweek, Zackray, Sparg0, Kola, etc.
@@youtubedrama5468 Leo already found answers to tweek after summit sparg0 so far doesn’t have any answers to the aegis ditto at all, kola’s bracket demon is Leo himself. So nobody will ever get close to dethroning Leo at this point.
This video is so good but the writing is very over the top "can you feel that?", "whats that happening over there?", " do you believe?". So hyperbolic.
Let’s go Walt commentary
As someone who has followed his career since Zero saga way back in the day, it has been a hell of a ride. I knew back then he might become #1 in smash, but never guessed he would become one of the best competitors of all time. The kid is an inspiration.
Something about this video was a little boring. The diagram was kind of hard to follow, and some of script felt like it tried a bit too hard to embue this sense of grandeur. Some of the story bits and especially the bits ragging on tweek felt a bit repetitive and hard to listen to. I also felt like the music choice didnt have enough energy. In general it didn't feel like a narrative was forming. Keep it up though, more smash content is never a bad thing and this is just the opinion of some internet nobody lmao
Leo saw this vid before ult summit 4 and said “fr?” And dropped a bunch of game 4s. Obviously he’s still the goat but feels like a slump atm (which is crazy cuz he’s still doing very well just not as good as before)
Fun fact: this video is about the legend of game 4 mkleo in super smash bros ultimate
The animation for the Evo set was amazing, felt just as dramatic as when I saw it live.
On a side note though very surprised to not see the SSC 2019 set vs samsora, especially since it was just after Evo
Crazy how tweek is hotdog water now
"Leo is the Tinkerbell of Ultimate, he dies if he can't hear us clap"
Fuck yeah Walt, I love this mythic narrative but you are the start of this video
Ok though. What the hell is this diagram
I appreciate the effort put into this video. Always wanted to see an in depth video explaining how insane mkleo is.
26:08 it means that pika has a +3 matchup against all of leos characters
It means whiffing multiple bairs in neutral until the 6th or 7th hits then instakilling is fun, fair and balanced
Pikachu, busted
MKLeo is the living definition of nerves of steel.
This has to be the best analysis video of a player in 2022
the production quality on these videos is amazing! crazy y’all don’t have more subs
10:10 DUDE THE EDITING HERE IS SOOOOO NICE
Love the stats and everything but most of the graphs/charts are straight up indiscernible
24:03 Smash Factor 8 was played in Cholula, Puebla, not in Mexico City. Actually, all Smash Factors have been in the state of Puebla.
That win over spargo with a tap from Leo on spargos shoulder shows you Leo is a super nice dude 👍
I just searched the video to see if it was out let's goooo
Leo indisputable King of Smash Ultimate 👑
Leo is such an exciting and quality ambassador for this game and this scene, good stuff yall
Great video! I really appreciated the effort that went into its writing, production, editing, and analysis. I'd just make a few constructive critiques for future videos:
- As some others have said, the script was often a bit over the top with the artsy, poetic "can you feel it?" "do you believe?" "something was in the air" "magic was about to happen" "legends live on in our hearts" type of language. I feel like it slowed the video down, made it a lot longer than it should've been, and created a sense of repetition in the language being used. In writing classes that I've taken, the instructors/professors often call this "fluff". I think some fluff is great, but it can also be overdone very easily.
- As some others have said, the diagrams were hard to understand. I appreciate the analysis for sure and would've loved to understand all of them. I think the main problems that I saw were that (1) some diagrams were shown with very minimal accompanying verbal explanation, as if the creator expected that we've seen these types of diagrams before, (2) some diagrams lacked labels on the axes (e.g. 15:58, 21:18), or lacked a key (e.g. 23:49), (3) putting diagrams inside diagrams (e.g. 23:04), especially diagrams that are never really explained in detail throughout the video, only make the information harder to understand. And all of the text in all of the diagrams should be large enough to read easily. As far as presentations go, visually, less is almost always better than more. It's hard to focus on what is being said while trying to decode the visuals. The simpler a diagram is, the faster it's understood, the better.
- In a lot of instances, the narrator omits certain details or pieces of information, as if the viewer should know what happened, either because they saw it already or because they can tell by looking on the screen. I guess that would work if the intended audience is people who have followed smash ultimate this whole time and who watched all of these events, in which case this video would be a nice recap and analysis for them. But for people such as myself, who haven't been watching all these events and who are just now trying to learn about the history of these players, it was hard to decypher what was happening at times. Like at 11:38, saying that MKLeo won game 4 and "the rest is history", I was sitting there assuming that MKLeo won game 5, but it would've been nice to hear the narrator say it and explain what happened in the game, as clarification and confirmation. At 13:15, "Tweek manages to go up 2-1, but by this point, you sorta know what that means." It would've been nice to hear the narrator just say something like "MKLeo takes the set again, 3-2". At 13:38, "What's this? I'm getting a dispatch that-- oh no. At this point, Tweek, you should just drop the first game, maybe that will help," it would've been nice to hear the narrator say "MKLeo takes the set again, 3-2." At 15:17, "Well, you know what's going to happen right? Haha, you thought. This isn't a fairy tale children," it would've been nice to hear the narrator say "Marss wins grand finals, with a dominant 3-0." In these moments, I was constantly scrambling to find their scores on the bottom or top of the screen. It felt like much of the story relied on the audience's ability to find the scores themselves, because the narrator was not verballing saying what was happening. I get that you could argue that it's easy enough for the viewer to find the information themselves, but I found that to not be the case because I was also trying to see what the Smash characters were doing to each other in the games, at the same time. Each clip only lasted a few seconds so there wasn't really enough time to do both. Naturally, I'd watch the plays (e.g. ZSS hits Joker with up smash) but then the clip changes before I can see what the score is. There were a lot of instances like this, that left me in a mild state of confusion throughout the video, occasionally rewinding, pausing, and just not sure of what I was supposed to be taking away from the story. Perhaps it's because I'm just a casual follower of smash, but that was my experience. Simply talking the viewers through exactly what was happening, and clearly saying what you the creator wants us to see, would've been a huge help.
But like I said, I really enjoyed the video and I learned a lot about Smash Ultimate history. Thanks a bunch, and I look forward to your future videos!
I miss when Marss was in contention for top 3.
Tbh I enjoy him focusing mainly on content now
I think He made the perfect decision for his career
Smash Tourneys doesn't give you enough money even if you win them, Marss was talking about on his stream once discussing about it
Twitch and YT seems way better career decision
@@youtubedrama5468 Well it gives enough money for leo.
That Leo vs Kola set still gives me nightmares
I was really hoping walt would have more influence over the writing but it really feels like someone else's words unfortunately
THE MANGA TELLING OF EVO WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! Would love to see more videos like that!
This was a pretty good watch. A bit overdramatic at times for my liking, but I'll definitely be coming back for more content.
Such a well put together video
I would kill for those still images of the kill sparks as an actual poster
I don't know whether the crowd and atmosphere is what impacts leo as much as online lag does. You can't react to DI as you can offline, nor are you able to space or refine the slight timing mixes that make mkleo as good as he is.
The amount of effort put into this video show; I really enjoyed the sketch animation for Evo 2019!
Yo nice editing and your commentary was really entertaining im excited to see what else you put out
I think the most amazing thing about Leo is that he manages to be so consistently at the absolute top in a game where so many other great players struggle to even be consistently in the top 5 ( pretty much the only thing everyone agrees on when ranking player is that Leo is the best ).
Ultimate has such a huge roster of viable characters and lots of great players playing in very different ways, yet he still consistently places in top 3 at massive tournaments
I think what a lot of e sports people don’t consider, is that when people at their A game in ANYTHING fall into “the zone” there is nothing that can stop them.
You let an opponent fall into their groove, they ride by the seat of their pants where every reaction is instinctual, it’s like white line fever. Just because you aren’t playing a physical sport doesn’t mean that the zone doesn’t exist.
Admit it…
Leo IS mexican
8:23 SNS Wizzy too good.
It’s hard being a Tweek fan 🥲. I like Leo too (I’m a Joker main), but I wish Tweek could retake the throne one day, but if anything Spargo might be the one to do it
I play Joker and Diddy, so Leo winning with Byleth is the worst of both worlds! We came so close to seeing the Joker v Diddy match-up at Summit but now that Leo’s grown in confidence with Byleth we may never see it! 😢
@@simonanderson4858 I feel that. Leo’s Joker is so cracked even when it’s rusty. Sure Byleth fits his swordie playstyle, but Joker gives Leo so many ways to outplay the opponent with his movement
@@ReconNarwhal TBH I don't want Leo to bring back Joker because He just doesn't like him anymore! I just want him to play the character that he truly loves
Also, It really sucks when Everytime He wins with his favourite character, People on Twitter starts harassing him for calling his Byleth lame and boring and telling him to bring back Joker
@@simonanderson4858 The reason is because Joker loses the matchup against Diddy Kong hard
Both NaitoSharp and MKLeo believes Diddy is a -2 MU for Joker because Joker lacks Out of shield options
Also, Leo Byleth is polished whereas his Joker is rusty because He doesn't like him anymore
@@simonanderson4858 IMO I also believe Joker getting nerfed so many times even during quarantine and everyone knowing the Joker MU because Every Local has a Joker in it also made Leo commit to Byleth even more
Loved every second of this video ! More like this please !
"You know what happens after game 4?"
"You Die!"
TurnDownForWalt killing the content game
Fun fact: Leo has a bankai and it’s name is Blessed rain after the drought
Leo let’s his mind flow like water allowing him to think adapt, strategise, read, composed,
All of these are greatly improved
Game 4 MKLeo Genesis 9 2023 😂
leo also wins game 4 of evo grands with the most ballsy bait into hard read possible
The lead writer for these videos is definitely an English major and I love it so much. Amazing script.
what i've taken from this is that panda global can defy the laws of nature
Death, taxes, and MkLeo, cant avoid em
26:07 "What does it mean?" It means pika is busted as hell
I love the way they laugh and look at each other after Leo counters the Wario waft
Amazing video, thank you!
Some ideas of story's you could tell
The rise of spargo
The upcoming of Mexico
A video about lui$. Feel like he deserved it very underrated player.
Just want to say the animation for the missing game footage was amazing.
15:26 "The dawning of a new king is upon us!"
Little did he know, that he was not in fact talking about Marss, but actually MkLeo
Not much mention on the Samsoras Sets Wich is understandable
I think the best way for a top player to beat Leo would be to switch characters after every set so Leo doesn’t get comfortable/download your play style
However now that he’s a byleth and pythra main I don’t think this theory holds up anymore
You literally predicted how proto would go on to beat Leo my guy, give me your stock picks
Why is it showing Summit and not like Frostbite at 6:30? It doesn’t make sense at all with the narration and where in the timeline the story is.
His knowledge about this game is way better than his peers. That's why he adapts quickly to their gameplan and then counter them by punishing their recurring options.
Greatest video of 2022
I didn't know I needed ult walt until now
this is great
idc if its real or not, the idea of game 4 leo and your presentation of it is so cool that it's real to me
I love watching tweeks dreams being crushed
Water ain't wet
The beginning of this video reminded me of SummoningSalt and it gave me literal chills.
Fun fact, despite being a victim of Game 4 Leo, LarryLurr has stated that he would definitely rather play against his Joker than his Byleth. This man rocks as any character.
It’s not the crowd that was the difference during quarantine, I mean you’ve played online so you know it’s just not the same game
This was amazing content. Subbed for sure sorry Im late!
Damn, what an intro!
Game 4 Leo makes sense heres why, if you are good enough to get Leo on the back foot then you have changed your play style to work around Leo. But by game 4 he can work around your play style and the sudden shift of power puts you off killter,and the legend puts fear in the back of your mind makes you stumble and falter
Good video.
Just want to say it's ABA- DON-GO
Why couldn't you just use the vgbootcamp footage? Isn't it free use?
Also love the rotoscoping
It was footage rights from EVO who is now owned by Sony.