The Duality of Smash Ultimate

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @PlayMadness
    @PlayMadness 8 месяцев назад +325

    So what does a round-by-round breakdown of a single New York tournament have to do with the question of "is Ultimate dying?"

    • @farewell418
      @farewell418 8 месяцев назад +30

      My guess is the Steve ban and increased view rate than average can “prove” something but Umebera 10 with a Steve and MiYa grand finals still had more views than LMBM so I still don’t get the videos point

    • @hunbi1875
      @hunbi1875 8 месяцев назад +14

      ​@AbstractVen0m that's because Japan has a generally larger viewbase who cares more about their region.

    • @hunbi1875
      @hunbi1875 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@AbstractVen0m that's because Japan has a generally larger viewbase who cares more about their region.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 8 месяцев назад +3

      The people forwarding that idea have nothing to offer. It's just doomsaying bc they don't like certain characters.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 8 месяцев назад

      That's an excuse and a bald assertion, because to date absolutely zero evidence of viewership issues has been provided. @@hunbi1875

  • @LetsBeReasonablepodcast
    @LetsBeReasonablepodcast 8 месяцев назад +180

    disappointed this wasn't a video essay when the title, thumbnail, and intro set up for that.

    • @NakuNee
      @NakuNee Месяц назад

      Cry about it

    • @randomgem8087
      @randomgem8087 Месяц назад +3

      yeah i quickly got bored from the video

  • @AnimusPrime87
    @AnimusPrime87 8 месяцев назад +265

    So the title asks a question about Ultimate dying but the entire video was just a review of a few matches from an LMBM tournament? How does that follow? What’d I miss.

    • @vvlaze
      @vvlaze 8 месяцев назад +38

      I assume its to make the video more appealing to watch, since just labelling it as a recap is less exciting. Wish it was more upfront regardless

    • @wilshirereacts8294
      @wilshirereacts8294 8 месяцев назад +31

      It's just bullshit honestly

    • @syn-militia9059
      @syn-militia9059 8 месяцев назад +7

      People will pass on anything through click bait. Start using the don't recommend channel button. Is very useful to get rid of these wanna be tabloids.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 8 месяцев назад +1

      clickbait, pandering to haters, doomsaying is an addiction

    • @LARAUJO_0
      @LARAUJO_0 8 месяцев назад +2

      Get a load of these guys
      [Ross from Friends image]

  • @kaylone4174
    @kaylone4174 8 месяцев назад +178

    For the last stock in grands, Sonix actually believed he had a checkmate on Tweek, however if you look closely as Sonix executed his homing attack, Tweek jumps back just enough for Sonic to launch himself in the blastzone without touching Diddy. A risky play that showed insanse awareness from Tweek.

    • @RemixkingDystansy
      @RemixkingDystansy 8 месяцев назад +35

      Sonix and tweek actually talk about that interaction on GOAT talk. Since they constantly train with each other on wifi Tweek was aware of what would happened if Sonix missed and went for a jump towards the blast zone because of it

    • @partysodown
      @partysodown 8 месяцев назад +9

      Looks like Tweek started his Barrels, which makes Diddy drop. He did the same thing to Ken and caused homing attack to miss the same way

    • @rnelly0001
      @rnelly0001 8 месяцев назад

      How do you even know sonix believed he had a checkmate on tweek, Lmfao

    • @samueldemers8589
      @samueldemers8589 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@rnelly0001 He said it himslef on GOAT Talk podcast. It thought Tweek didn't have his 2nd jump which tweek used to avoid homing attack

  • @stallionsLP
    @stallionsLP 8 месяцев назад +13

    Just like in the Sonic Adventure games, nothing costs Sonic harder than a botched Homing Attack to fling the hedgehog to his death.

  • @gatsbee
    @gatsbee 8 месяцев назад +88

    Glad to see another good ult channel. You've got some super good talent in Jazara and Jakal-- can't wait to see what y'all come up with.

    • @randyryry6656
      @randyryry6656 8 месяцев назад +5

      Rister mice is also good too

  • @dill6612
    @dill6612 8 месяцев назад +531

    The fact that you even need too make this video shows that yes, the game is slowly dying and in my own opinion, the community killed it

    • @Scumxixxx
      @Scumxixxx 8 месяцев назад +53

      Characters killed it

    • @TearsOfThem
      @TearsOfThem 8 месяцев назад +174

      @@Scumxixxxsorta? But it’s mainly due to half of the original top players and smash personalities were ousted as predators. Most people online literally joke about smash players being predators, the general masses hate the community for the last 3 years. Meaning it’s harder for the community to grow with this nasty connotation

    • @Izer42
      @Izer42 8 месяцев назад +96

      I definitely agree that the Smash community has an ongoing issue with misogyny/ really gross people who for one reason or another “get a pass”. But I think just pinning it all on the allegations made in 2020 feels a bit disingenuous, especially since we’re almost 4 years removed. Personally I know I distance myself from the local Ultimate scene but that’s more or less for…. hygienic reasons.

    • @Niko-bz3df
      @Niko-bz3df 8 месяцев назад +40

      Tbf people talked exactly like this about Melee too and that game is still alive and well

    • @fukopi
      @fukopi 8 месяцев назад +30

      It shows nothing imo. In how many games every months there's someone saying the game is finished in 2 years ? And how many times these people are wrong ?

  • @DosDeAsada69
    @DosDeAsada69 8 месяцев назад +14

    After seeing this tournament, I can confirm that ultimate is better without Steve

  • @thynegationist5696
    @thynegationist5696 8 месяцев назад +19

    Tbh a decent ranked system and would help a lot at satisfying both new and old players, it seems so simple and I don’t know why Nintendo refuses. Add rollback too? You’d definitely get tons of players back.

    • @SirMalorak
      @SirMalorak 8 месяцев назад +15

      And let me remove the buffer system Ultimate employs. It's so arbitrary and kills all muscle memory for all other games.
      Ultimate could be cool and they got all the hard stuff right, just add a simple ranked system, rollback and lemme disable the awful buffer system and we've got a fantastic game on our hands.
      ...
      And ban steve.

    • @PlayMadness
      @PlayMadness 8 месяцев назад +8

      Because it isn't financially worth it. Ultimate sold millions without these systems, there's no point in adding them.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 8 месяцев назад +2

      Adding roleback essentially means making a new game.
      It needs to be coded in thr base engine of the game early

    • @user-it2kq4ty9q
      @user-it2kq4ty9q 3 месяца назад

      @@SirMaloraknot everyone plays melee

  • @austinesco7610
    @austinesco7610 8 месяцев назад +5

    Not dying but in a retirement home waiting for the next game to put it out of its misery. Like watching that cloud sonic clip gave me bayo stall flashbacks

  • @KeyboardKlutz_0
    @KeyboardKlutz_0 8 месяцев назад +122

    I just love how the commentators of WTT just didn't care Sonix and Spargo just stood there.
    "Yeah but remember we didn't like those guys, we like THESE guys."
    Love that Sonix is still respected for all the work he puts in, even tho I would still much rather watch the more fast-paced matchups.

    • @viewerguy10
      @viewerguy10 8 месяцев назад +21

      The irony of Sonic having slow matchups always cracks me up

    • @konakami7066
      @konakami7066 8 месяцев назад +6

      yeah mad respect towards the commentators, just wish this respect was afforded to Steve players as well lol

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 8 месяцев назад +12

      To be fair, they werent intentionally collaborating to stall. Sonix was stalling because he actually figure that a lower time on the clock would give him a better chance to win. I mean if he can start the game with like 3 min on the clock for example, he's more likely to win than if it was 7. So stalling at 0% is actively beneficial for him.
      Sparg0 im honestly not sure why he was waiting tbh.
      But the point is, the gamestate was actually advancing since sonix was actively gaining an advantage the longer the clock ticked down. The whole lima vs zack situation that wasnt the case. They were stalling just for the hell of it because they could. There was no advantage to either player at all for stalling.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 8 месяцев назад

      speculation @@eragon78

    • @doodoo2065
      @doodoo2065 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@eragon78 I think Sonix was just triggered at the moment and needed a second to cool off, the match continued normally after that

  • @legrandliseurtri7495
    @legrandliseurtri7495 8 месяцев назад +27

    I love that you included those stats about Steve. The problem with this character is not and has never been Acola, or any of the Steve players that come close to matching his performance. The problem is how difficult to counter he is at lower levels of competitive play.

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 8 месяцев назад +8

      I like those stats too. The same situation happened in smash 4 with Bayonetta where low level players were picking her up and dominating their locals.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 8 месяцев назад +1

      the problem is people not learning the matchup and how to catch him off guard like never letting him mine and avoiding the same block formations, then sending death threats to kids who play him.

  • @freddiesimmons1394
    @freddiesimmons1394 8 месяцев назад +11

    Shoulda done bans a long time ago. So frustrating

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 8 месяцев назад

      They tried it with hero early meta remember? Met with tons of controversy and in the end ot wasnt warrrented

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Matanumi hero and steve are not remotely the same, argumentwise or power

    • @milesedgeworth6353
      @milesedgeworth6353 3 месяца назад

      ​@@freddiesimmons1394 that really doesn't have anything to do though. Nowadays you have the benefit of hindsight but back(and for a long while) the general concensus was that steve was meh, couple that with no tournamets because covid and steve not immediately taking over once tournaments that actually come back and it's no suprise Steve took so long to get banned.

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 3 месяца назад

      @@milesedgeworth6353 "back then" as in... before people thought he should be banned? The yelling from the rooftops about it went on for a long long time

    • @milesedgeworth6353
      @milesedgeworth6353 3 месяца назад

      @@freddiesimmons1394 but then again, that yelling wasn't exclusive for Steve only, Joker had it, Hero had it, same with Kazuya and most importantly Aegis had it. I wanna highlight Aegis in particular because unlike Steve, Aegis actually had the performance back then as she immediately rose up the ranks in tournaments and had a bunch of top players that instantly switched to her, this at a time where Steve had already been in the game for a few months now. Yelling that a character is Banworthy isn't enough, you also need results to back that kind of statement up. And in Steve's case those results were never there from the beggining, heck you can even make an argument for them not being there just yet. As far as the top level of smash goes, the only ones truly affected by such ban would be Acola and Onin, this in stark contrast to melee where almost every top player was playing Fox at some point and let's not even get into Brawl and Smash4.

  • @kyallon1213
    @kyallon1213 8 месяцев назад +5

    I mean i think smash as a whole is slightly on a decline with more TO’s and events dropping, and it’s definitely never gonna be the same as 2022 and earlier after VGBC unintentionally drove Panda out. It’s why Luminosity picking up Max and Joe was so important since it’s strengthening another TO.
    Also steve bans are just gonna make acola more dominant in NA during supermajors, so if that’s what people want, then i guess that’s what we’re getting

  • @titoavi
    @titoavi 8 месяцев назад +9

    hopefully rivals 2 is really good when fully released and we dont have to be at the mercy of old ass nintendo, seems like the only solution

    • @pacothemajestic
      @pacothemajestic 8 месяцев назад +10

      Rivals 1 was and still is good, and it didn't keep anyone from playing worse plat fighters. They don't want a better game, they just want to play what esports tells them to play.

    • @titoavi
      @titoavi 8 месяцев назад

      sure but just like i didnt want to play rivals 1 cuz it was 2d and didnt look appealing, R2 looks way better and they're improving from R1 and im actually willing to try it and i hope R2 gets popular so we dont have to deal with nintendo
      @@pacothemajestic

  • @MarioSMG64
    @MarioSMG64 8 месяцев назад +6

    This channel is just what Ultimate needs right now!

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee 8 месяцев назад +18

    Its a good game, but its just not Melee
    Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 8 месяцев назад

      Doesn't have to be merely but it has to be combo Centric with some ofd stage flair
      And every smash game since has either be defensive or about the nutral game more so

    • @shaneh3109
      @shaneh3109 5 месяцев назад +4

      I love melee...but ultimate has a fantastic character selection

  • @hugebluewhales
    @hugebluewhales 4 месяца назад

    8:10 love all that emotion in tweek's face when he's playing XD

  • @diegojaraestivill5620
    @diegojaraestivill5620 8 месяцев назад +3

    Crazy opinion, please read: We need PCs like aegis, cloud, watch, fox to save the game:
    -Camper pjs like sonic or steve can be rushed, which speeds up the game
    -They give a high reward, but they run the risk that a mistake will be expensive due to poor recovery or low weight.
    - Also PCs like Samus help the meta, since they force you to interact, Samus has the risk of being floaty and something big so you catch her and she eats things, but she forces you to get closer or she kills you

  • @jackvogel701
    @jackvogel701 8 месяцев назад +5

    Sonix throwing for content lmao hope the channel goes well, Walt!

  • @Phoenix2Troie
    @Phoenix2Troie 2 месяца назад

    I remember streaming and watching the grand finals and my deception when Sonix SD-Ed it was so hype

  • @shenangelo
    @shenangelo 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great video but it didnt talk about what the title suggested

  • @alexandre526
    @alexandre526 8 месяцев назад +2

    We need a statistical analysis of entrants per tournament to end this endless "is smash dying" debate. No subjectives ideas on how fun are top 8. But are people still coming to tournaments to enjoy the game ?

  • @ravenger2445
    @ravenger2445 8 месяцев назад +2

    *"The Wii Fit defeated Stroder and Balls Grab."* 🤣🤣😅😅🗿🗿💀💀

  • @TheTvSmash
    @TheTvSmash 8 месяцев назад +3

    Clickbait title. Video almost had nothing to do with the game dying or not bruh

  • @VarsVerum
    @VarsVerum 8 месяцев назад +4

    0:02 hey that’s me! ☺️

  • @MooseJS
    @MooseJS 2 месяца назад

    Dude I loved this. I took a break from the scene for a bit and this was an amazing recap

  • @tgmt20z
    @tgmt20z 8 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for the excellent coverage!

  • @SneeZSmash
    @SneeZSmash 8 месяцев назад +6

    SkyJays crew battle performance alone was enough to get the Ultimate hype going again

  • @oscarguzman3017
    @oscarguzman3017 2 месяца назад

    You know it's bad when we must consider diddy kong cool 😅

  • @meipuma
    @meipuma 8 месяцев назад +2

    this video made me smile so much !! LMBM truely made me get my hype back for Ultimate. I can't wait to see more videos like this from other tournaments

  • @coreyodell6220
    @coreyodell6220 8 месяцев назад +26

    MkLeo and Skyjay were super hype at LMM, Acola/Miya is always a hype rivalry and having Gluto in the mix was sick. I think Steve bans are dramatic and only hurt the NA players, but both tournies were fun, regardless!
    Ult's fine, people are just bored with no patches.
    News of a new game for Switch2 (whatever its called) would be sick though!

    • @coreyodell6220
      @coreyodell6220 8 месяцев назад +2

      Also, can't wait to see your stuff on a second channel! I follow melee n ult, so both vids are fun for me! Saw your reasoning in another comment and wanna say good luck! (:

  • @chipminunleashedvods
    @chipminunleashedvods 8 месяцев назад +5

    Nintendo Killed it by lack of support, a hatred for the competitive community and unbalanced and broken characters along with shitty online peer to peer play

    • @Oceanandskylinevidss
      @Oceanandskylinevidss 8 месяцев назад +5

      You nailed it, this video didn't hit any points and only talked about the competitive scene which is small compared to the casuals. This game would have kept going and grow if the online wasnt 12 to 16 frames of delay.

    • @Blue-jn1ph
      @Blue-jn1ph 8 месяцев назад

      This right here

  • @Nikkerman
    @Nikkerman 8 месяцев назад +20

    Steve ban was fun to see at a major, absolutely loved it and I'm now 200% convinced it should happen

    • @sharkronical
      @sharkronical 8 месяцев назад +5

      Won’t happen in Japan though, so good luck for Tweek to get to top spot whilst not having experience against Steve

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@sharkronical Japan is not a respectable region. It only has respectable players.

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@justice8718😂

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@ABC-ik9vj Did you laugh because it was true?

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@justice8718 Japan being the best region in ult hurts you that much?

  • @apinecone2753
    @apinecone2753 8 месяцев назад +1

    Man it’s so fun watching some of the least fun characters make every single top 8 lmao. It’s never going away and it’s certainly not helping the game thrive.

  • @the_doc_martin
    @the_doc_martin 8 месяцев назад +2

    Yeah Lets make big moves was the first ult tourny ive watched in while and its funny how i actually looked up many matches i missed. But yeah its not fun watching steve ever. didnt even realize he was banned at first but makes sense why it was a fun tournament lol

  • @justanothermanontheinternet
    @justanothermanontheinternet 8 месяцев назад +9

    I’m convinced we could just remove 5-6 characters from the game and the meta would be enjoyable again. I’m not arguing that these characters are overpowered, but that removing by them would improve the game. Steve, Sonic, GnW, Kazuya, Minmin, Aegis. Again, not saying these characters are too strong or unbalanced, but that they are uniquely harmful to the viewing and playing experience. Unless these characters fall off(unlikely) or we ban them, a decent amount of major top 8s will look like WTT.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 8 месяцев назад +7

      In my opinion, Aegis is decently fun, Kazuya is goofy in a good way, Min Min and G&W have really hype top representatives, Steve is sometimes cool because of all the options he has at his disposal and Sonic is entertaining in a few specific matchups.
      I don't think spectator entertainment is a good reason to ban or not ban a character, but if I did, the character that I would ban in an instant is Snake. One he's boring, and two I always feel like the opponent has to utterly outplay the Snake player to have a chance at winning. Statistically, Steve is harder to deal with(and should probably be banned because of that), but it doesn't feel that way when I watch Snake so it's frustrating.

    • @judithforever9494
      @judithforever9494 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@legrandliseurtri7495no snake is hype. Nobody complaining about snake for a reason

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 8 месяцев назад

      because nobody plays snake lol @@judithforever9494

  • @unclen2479
    @unclen2479 8 месяцев назад +3

    Youre gifted Walt never stop making dope content man

  • @cjkmelee
    @cjkmelee 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ah dammit Walt you got me on this one. Clicked and decided to stay

  • @xboxpenguin8705
    @xboxpenguin8705 8 месяцев назад +2

    Shout out to TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEK (and Walt for the amazing content on such a consistent basis)

  • @bakedbuninvasion
    @bakedbuninvasion 8 месяцев назад +3

    Pretty much everyone saying the game is dying is the same people who over reacted to new unlicensed tournament rules that games like Street Fighter and Tekken already had. These are the same people who threw there hat in with vgbc in attempting to create a monopoly over the na scene without licence, or are in bed with these people now. These are the same people who protect anyone they like from accusations while allowing anyone who wasn't in there clique to get throw under the bus dispite being falsely accused. These are the same people who have been pulling this entitled pile of poop routine for nearly 20 years., and everyone had had it.
    NA smash is dying because no one wants to get kneecapped by a bunch of blacklisted idiots who will gladly destroy the entire scene if they are not going to have the lions share.

  • @erich_ika
    @erich_ika 4 месяца назад +1

    where's the duality of smash ultimate? is the game dying or not? why is this video actually a review of the big moves tournament? what are you talking about? have I been clickbaited?

  • @sachitechless
    @sachitechless 7 месяцев назад

    I was fully expecting you to in some way compare Umebura and LMMM rather than just a video gassing up Tweek's run at LMMM. Honestly it wasn't the kind of quality I expected from you.

  • @JosephRouen
    @JosephRouen 8 месяцев назад +1

    Does this thumbnail imply that Diddy Kong is any cool?

  • @ProbablyGene
    @ProbablyGene 8 месяцев назад

    i still think about the counter that lost spargo that losers finals set, brutal

  • @SeabasstheFish
    @SeabasstheFish 8 месяцев назад +1

    great video man, i like you recapping the majors. i hope you do more vids like this

  • @robertduerler2226
    @robertduerler2226 8 месяцев назад +3

    Idk if I'd call Diddy cool, but this video was cool and so is Walt and this top 8 was a breath of fresh air

    • @salemmetal6433
      @salemmetal6433 8 месяцев назад +2

      Diddy is sick in this game. After the snoozer of S4 and Brawl Diddy, I'll take ultimate Diddy any day

    • @robertduerler2226
      @robertduerler2226 8 месяцев назад

      @@salemmetal6433 idk if I'd call Diddy sick

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 8 месяцев назад

      @@salemmetal6433 He's pretty defensive still in ult, but at least he actually plays the game and interacts with the opponent.

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 8 месяцев назад

      yo mean he's spends 80% of the time just spawning in bananas for cheap tricks?@@eragon78

  • @D4RKTH3T0PP4T
    @D4RKTH3T0PP4T 8 месяцев назад

    Lets not shit ourselves, its SMASH. Smash will never truly die no matter what. Ultimate tournaments still exist, Melee meta is still going strong, and even more obscure communities like the Brawl community are still thriving.

  • @kittyratrawr
    @kittyratrawr 6 месяцев назад

    tweek is so good, hope he can keep the momentum.

  • @ShockedTaiLung
    @ShockedTaiLung 8 месяцев назад +1

    Underrated smash tuber?!

  • @firebal6129
    @firebal6129 8 месяцев назад +4

    I’ll at least comment, boost th Chanel a little bit

  • @craigbowen9995
    @craigbowen9995 2 месяца назад

    Only reason Steve doesn't do better is that the best players aren't lame enough to play him.

  • @somafiora
    @somafiora 5 месяцев назад

    How is MKLeo not considered one of the four horsemen?

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 8 месяцев назад +1

    Yes, smash is dying, if multiple people think it is, the community is not great, steve, sonic and to some extent the majority of the top teirs are an absolute cancer for their complete lack of weaknesses and forcing passivity from the sheer amount of pressure these characters create is just not good. It doesn't help that bandai namco can't be assed trying to fix the characters that are far better than all other characters

  • @sinchill5424
    @sinchill5424 8 месяцев назад +2

    Update the stage list, fix the game.

  • @captinhindsight7345
    @captinhindsight7345 8 месяцев назад

    All good things come to an end, even for smash ultimate…

  • @BeastMasterVODs
    @BeastMasterVODs 8 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder what would happen if everyone liked, commeted, and subcribed 😮

  • @pokefriend123
    @pokefriend123 8 месяцев назад +1

    It's not our fault because Ultimate is repetitive and every matchup is predetermined on the startup screen. Unlike Smash Melee had possibility in every move, stupid shit like Ganondorf could actually be good because your technical ability mattered.

  • @mohammadalhusaini810
    @mohammadalhusaini810 8 месяцев назад

    Its sad he didn’t use sephiroth even once but can’t blame him honestly

  • @kemmybelleuwu
    @kemmybelleuwu 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just clicked this video and I can already tell its the same hopium bullshit with "no the game isn't dead its still fun! steve and DLC arent ruining the game!"
    YES the game is dying don't listen to these RUclipsrs saying bullshit about the game 😂
    (Edit dude clickbaited minus points dislike!)

  • @Viviko
    @Viviko 8 месяцев назад

    A tourney winner that isn’t Steve or Sonic? Yes please.

  • @sidneyfernandez4318
    @sidneyfernandez4318 8 месяцев назад

    Put the DLCs out the tournaments in general. We seen how carried they all are. Aegis carried, Kazuya, Terry, Steve and the rest of the DLC. Play without them, and gosh have fun

  • @pinkheartgamers5007
    @pinkheartgamers5007 8 месяцев назад

    I just dont think smash should just ban steve, we've seen many fighting games have that have *the one broken top main* like chun-li in third strike, magneto from MVC2 and they didnt resort to banning the character but rather imbracing these absolute monsters. The steve ban for me just feels like the most sour "No-Fun zone" i have ever scene in any competitive fighting game and no the argument that "its not fun to play against steve" is very surface level as you can say that about fighting any character in any game. And by watching some competive could nutral b spam or sonic spindash i still dont see why steve was the straw that broke the camels back to some people.

  • @MrGetownedLP
    @MrGetownedLP 8 месяцев назад

    NEW CHANNEL HYPE

  • @hazyhayley7488
    @hazyhayley7488 7 месяцев назад

    The only thing I’ll take away from this video is that the game is more fun without the boring characters.
    Sonic died as he lived, anticlimactic.

  • @EDDYSUNSHINEv2
    @EDDYSUNSHINEv2 8 месяцев назад +3

    Common Waltimus Maximus W

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 8 месяцев назад

    It’s crazy how Leo used to be the greatest ever, and now he’s just one of many top players.

  • @slouch186
    @slouch186 8 месяцев назад

    they should ban more than just steve. low tier exclusive tournaments would be fun

  • @Cookedmaruchan
    @Cookedmaruchan 8 месяцев назад

    I love Competitive ult so this channel is great, thanks man

  • @Ruyeghu2
    @Ruyeghu2 8 месяцев назад +1

    To be honest i just watch ULT for sisqui lmao

  • @RoronoaPablo
    @RoronoaPablo 8 месяцев назад +1

    Melee is more dead since the meta is so typical and boring

    • @HeDronHeDronHedron
      @HeDronHeDronHedron 8 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe but melee won’t die when the next smash comes out (also people are a lot more chill online)

    • @TJlolbagger
      @TJlolbagger 8 месяцев назад +3

      Melee player and viewer base has been on the rise for the last decade, cope some more my guy. Your brand new Smash games will never compare, and the community will never have that grassroots base to help it stand on its own legs.

    • @Jonas-jx3kw
      @Jonas-jx3kw 8 месяцев назад +1

      melee is trash@@TJlolbagger

  • @Akiak7
    @Akiak7 8 месяцев назад +2

    banning steve is great and all but really all they had to do was use an actually balanced stagelist

  • @vin9235
    @vin9235 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing video! Got my sub

  • @kyleryin_li-te5722
    @kyleryin_li-te5722 8 месяцев назад

    Might be called turn down but I turn it up for the goat

  • @BedrockBlocker
    @BedrockBlocker 8 месяцев назад

    You make great recaps

  • @xtroyr_5747
    @xtroyr_5747 2 месяца назад

    Well, diddy is lame, what are you talking about?
    Every Item character is

  • @B0R0M1R
    @B0R0M1R 8 месяцев назад

    Melee died 16 years ago and people still play that shit

  • @noahrubin7680
    @noahrubin7680 8 месяцев назад

    i just started 😭

  • @dingding12321
    @dingding12321 8 месяцев назад +1

    The game set the community up to fail IMO lol

  • @Benjawin6671
    @Benjawin6671 7 месяцев назад

    Haven't watched yet but Diddy Kong is definitely not "cool" lol.

  • @ismaelrodriguezbarrero4945
    @ismaelrodriguezbarrero4945 2 месяца назад

    I love steve gameplay, pyra/mythra is FAR worse and unbalanced

  • @trashylookingmario
    @trashylookingmario 8 месяцев назад +4

    Yes, smash ultimate is dying. Just like smash 4 it's coming to a close mostly to DLC and other things I don't care about. The game was kinda overrated anyways.

  • @nachot6592
    @nachot6592 8 месяцев назад

    Competive might be.... Smash itself isn't. At all.

  • @MrBobxxl
    @MrBobxxl 8 месяцев назад +1

    stupid click bait..

  • @nathanlevesque7812
    @nathanlevesque7812 8 месяцев назад

    Treating characters like problems for the scene with zero justification: L

  • @nonubeats9222
    @nonubeats9222 8 месяцев назад

    What about any of this has to do with ultimate dying? I don’t know if i missed something or what, but this video seems kinda unnecessary to the topic.

  • @petercsabai2899
    @petercsabai2899 8 месяцев назад

    Very nice vid!

  • @AdmiralA
    @AdmiralA 8 месяцев назад +2

    game bad

  • @WildlandsGG
    @WildlandsGG 8 месяцев назад +1

    melee

  • @andyduhh4278
    @andyduhh4278 8 месяцев назад

    How u gonna say it’s dying after the last majors we just had lol

  • @BadMann3rs
    @BadMann3rs 8 месяцев назад +1

    Lame title, cool video

  • @Hammeldu
    @Hammeldu 8 месяцев назад

    I hope so

  • @MrFleshyMan
    @MrFleshyMan 8 месяцев назад

    The double standards are insane tbh nobody has a problem with cloud back air because Sparg0 gets special protection from criticism unlike everyone else

    • @peachdevils3893
      @peachdevils3893 8 месяцев назад

      I think it’s because sparg0 is way more interesting to watch. While cloud does spam back air he does much more and a lot of things that he goes for are very hype and fun to watch

  • @0ff0667
    @0ff0667 8 месяцев назад

    Tweek got that fraud lol

  • @Jjarmyboy
    @Jjarmyboy 8 месяцев назад

    first acceptable clickbait lol well done

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 8 месяцев назад

    Yeah but I go to locals so we good

  • @starexplodes4331
    @starexplodes4331 8 месяцев назад

    Ultimate is dying, that's why I believe everyone who plays Ultimate will jump to Rivals 2 on release lol.

  • @cenzo2211
    @cenzo2211 8 месяцев назад

    Sorry guys its dying because i just bought the game 😞

  • @Emewn
    @Emewn 8 месяцев назад

    Yes.

  • @BuchoJ222
    @BuchoJ222 8 месяцев назад

    Yes