Napoleon: Total War 1vs1: Cemaat Janissaries vs Old Guard
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2022
- Napoleon: Total War 1vs1: Cemaat Janissaries vs Old Guard
Nation: Ottoman Empire vs France
AI Strength: normal
Cemaat Janissaries are some of the only melee infantry in Napoleon: Total War. This makes them vulnerable at range since they have no way to retaliate immediately to musket or artillery fire. At close range, however, they are very deadly, and they can take on and win against most units if they can close the gap without suffering too many casualties. Their melee attack is over twice the value of default line infantry, even outclassing the best elite infantry, and they can beat practically any unit in a melee fight with stamina and numbers being equal. They are quite cheap to field, too. However if they suffer heavy casualties while closing in on their targets before they have an opportunity to use their swords, their potential is largely squandered. Despite having among the best melee statistics of all infantry, Cemaat Janissaries fare badly against cavalry charges. Bayonet and firearm equipped troops can be placed close to them to ward off cavalry threats. While being weak in defense against cavalry, cemaat janissaries can do well if attacking stationary cavalry, particularly if they have a stamina advantage. Compared to the Ottoman Empire's other melee infantry, the Bashi-Bazouks, Cemaat Janissaries are twice as expensive, but have 33% more men per regiment, with better melee and defence statistics (though their morale is somewhat poorer). However, they tire more easily than bashi-bazouks, and are at their most effective when running over short distances only. In addition, they march in tight formations, making them more vulnerable to enemy fire. Despite being much more expensive than bashi-bazouks, Cemaat Janissaries are still considerably cheaper than line infantry, and can be very cost effective. Their very low cost means that adding experience to them in multiplayer is both cheap and very deadly for their targets.
The Old Guard are the best elite infantry in the game, with unmatched stats across the board. Their ability to scare enemies in their vicinity is unique to them. This, combined with their deadly skills at both ranged and melee combat, means that they can usually rout most enemies in short order. Like all infantry, however, they are vulnerable to artillery (their status as the best infantry in the game makes them an attractive artillery target) and being attacked from the flanks or rear. Their very high cost is also an issue, particularly in multiplayer, where limited funds means that a heavy reliance on Old Guard means having to make do with an inferior army in other regards. The Old Guard are also the only default guard unit that is limited to three regiments (other factions may recruit four), though France can supplement this with other guard units such as Young Guard and Guard Seamen. The Old Guard's fear ability mean that they are at their most useful toward the end of battles, where morale penalties from casualties sustained or generals killed mean that many units have shaky morale. Though Old Guard can only be trained at staff colleges, the highest level military building, France starts the Grand Campaign with one regiment of them. This regiment can prove pivotal in the early game, when no other faction can field line infantry nearly as skilled. As staff colleges may only be built in capital regions of any faction, it is normally considerably more difficult to recruit and replace Old Guards that are lost far from France.
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A potential use for Cemaat Janissaries is to put them behind chaff peasants/militia. Just charge the militia ahead towards the gunfire, letting it absorb the lead. Then when it breaks you send in the Janissaries
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Yeah. A favorite of mine back in the day was to have militia in front, fire a volley, then run to half range and then have the melee troops burst through the lines right after the enemy fire their second volley.
Cemaat Janissaries are extremely good but bashi-bazouks are also shockingly good for their cost and number of men per regiment.
Shogitai: What a SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!!
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Seeing how the Old Guard are more than twice the price, it's safe to say that the equivalent cost of jannisarries will beat the Old Guard
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The Old Guard are basically the Cemaat and Beylik Janissary musketeers in one unit.
@@genghiskhan6809 yup.
The game mechanics are messed up. Musket fire would be devastating at short range.
There's nothing more satisfying then watching how charging units die to the volley's
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Until it’s not your units
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fear the old man in a profession where men usually die young
Yes. Respect the Old man!
Perfect example of knowing how it’s going to end but it’s something you’d still wanna watch lol
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Hi, here to translate some rares lines of dialogue for the French :
0:35 "Arretez de pleurer espèce de mauviette !" : "Stop crying you wimp !"
0:55 "Halte ! Ce ne sont que quelques cavaliers !" : "Halt, that's only few cavalrymen !"
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funnily there were no cavalry
In empire total war, playing the turks or the moghul empire, i was always outgunned frontline wise, so i made it up with more and better skirmish infantry, cavalry and artillery. I putted the cannon on the front line, so to soft the enemy gunline with a barrage of grapple shots and send in the melee infantry immediately after.
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And funny enough, this is exactly how Ottoman military works in the era, Ottomans relies heavily on field fortifications and artillery due to their unreliable infantry, wagon guns and stakes are widely deployed, and they basically turned every field battle into a siege, taking defensive position whenever possible, but that would also means once the artillery or cavalry is taken down the battle is surely over.
And to be honest, Ottoman tactics were quite mediocre and certainly didn't stand a chance against military genius of the time (which they sadly had none), they used to outperform their enemy strategically, with vastly superior organisation and logistics, but once the Ottoman logistics is gone there's nothing worthy left, occasionally they proved to be visionary in military development (adopting the right military technology before their neighbours, like using Winchester repeater in the battle of plevne, which devastated the Russians, as well being one of the early pioneer in airforce), but never capitalise some of their bright ideas to due corruption and failing economy.
When a unit's standard is still flying after a melee attack, you know that it's a very overpowered unit
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Old Guard were an elite units with tall men that prioritized Baïonnette while still being good at shooting and reloading.
These guys were basically Grey Knights/ Predators with a lance that shoots bullets.
They could Also March for dozen of kilometers for days and be Battle ready still. One of the most Amazing unit in military history.
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Plus Battle-Hardened Veterans that have served Napoleon for decades and fought in countless battles
If the young/old guard charge, they win.
if the imperial guard charge France win
Maybe...
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but i still think Cemaat Janissaries as a op unit considering the price and upkeep, with good stretgy , Cemaat Janissaries can beat old guard as well
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Vive l'Empereur !!!! La vielle garde ne se bat qu'à la baïonnette.
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In rome tw i once did 300 fully upgraded berserkers against over 20k warband in a fort and the berserkers won.
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Just to make sure any new player would see this and think of it as guide to unit strengh, I warn you this doesnt show how good units are on battlefield. So dont use it as one.
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good jobe mate
can u test the desert legionaries vs tribeworriors of tails
Thank you! Will do.
Ottomans are the most fun in multiplayer. I like to go medieval with Bashi Bazouks and Sipahis.
Yeah, I love melee units in this era 😈
Can the Janissaries win without taking musket fire? Just 1v1 melee. Great videos btw keep it up!
Maybe, but I don't think so, since the Old Guard melee stats are still very good, almost double the defence value, along with way higher morale and the scare ability. But, Old guard are about over twice as expensive, and so in terms of value, Cemaat Janissaries look to be extremely useful if they can get into melee.
Judging by the stats, Old Guard would still win.
Thank you bro! I'll do a rematch soon, only melee combat.
@@TotalWar1vs1 I would try charging with Old Guard, that should make them even more powerful.
do old guard not fire by rank? what is this sacrilege
Yes, Old Guard cannot utilize Fire by rank. There is no Fire by rank in Napoleon.
Just watched your other vid with the young guard let’s see if the og shogutai can win this one
Edit: rip they can’t
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Why the second and third line did not shoot ?!
they game says that they can not shoot
@Ivan Kodonev idk , just ask CA about that
In Napoleon, there is no Fire by rank.
by that time, the Janissaries had already decided nothing on the battlefield
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@@TotalWar1vs1 I'm right?
@@FreshSSOC Yup! At that time, Janissaries lost their reputation in battle. They were replaced by Nizam-I Cedid infantry, the more Western style troops.
that was harsh challenge for cemaat...
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When you bring a sword into a gun fight be like:
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Dutch grenadiers vs Cemaat? When
Coming soon bro!
@@TotalWar1vs1 aight im waitin' keep up the good content broski
@@azzaro714 Thank you. Sure thing!
Wow you didn't even have the old guard counter charge.
No need to counter charge, Old Guard are very OP in the game 😈
Impossible, I never lost a battle with Cemaat janissaries
Old Guard in Napoleon total war is OP 😈
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They have downgraded a lot of things in Napoleon total war
Which ones?
@@TotalWar1vs1 the graphics look kinda to fancy
They changed the engine
And for some reason empire total war seems better
@@maxim13able Both games use the same engine called "Warscape". And I think the graphic of Napoleon looks better overall, explosion effects, gun sound, cannon sound... are better
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