CANNONS ARE OVERPOWERED!!! - Total War: Shogun 2 Is A Perfectly Balanced Game With No Exploits

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июн 2021
  • Total War: Shogun 2 is one of my favourite Total War games however it does come with one minor overpowered issue. The Cannon units in this game are crazy and overpowered! Sure in Napoleon total war and empire total war cannons take up a lot of the focus however those cannons are terrible in comparison to the portable war crime dispensers that are the Armstrong cannons and the Gatling guns which are incredibly overpowered when handling overwhelming numbers in battle. So why use grand strategy and challenges when instead you can just use medieval miniguns and decimate hordes of peasants as they charge cannons that are so overpowered they have over 100 accuracy! Today we will be playing as the saga clan and generally going toe to toe with the obama clan that will be trying to use overwhelming numbers of samurai. So discover the top units as we take them to extreme levels with crazy modifiers. Is Total war shogun 2 legendary you bet it is!
    What you have seen here today is part of a fantastic perfectly balanced series on youtube where I go from game to game and break them with wacky exploits to gain things like unlimited gold. If you enjoyed this then be sure to check out more. The style is similar to RT game and callmekevin in parts. A large influence on this series has come from Valefisk and The Killian Experience.
    So sit back relax and enjoy this Total War: Shogun 2 Fall of the samurai challenge!
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    Title: CANNONS ARE OVERPOWERED!!! - Total War: Shogun 2 Is A Perfectly Balanced Game With No Exploits
    #TotalWar #Shogun2 #Funny
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  • @johntorreto4485
    @johntorreto4485 3 года назад +2765

    "Cannons need to be nerfed"
    -Every Infantryman since the invention Gunpowder

    • @skoshman1
      @skoshman1 3 года назад +153

      "Nope" -Every Artilleryman, ever.

    • @steffennilsen2132
      @steffennilsen2132 3 года назад +20

      Proximity fuse has been unlocked~~~

    • @Nerdnumberone
      @Nerdnumberone 3 года назад +41

      Except for the infantry who have artillery support who only fight people without artillery.
      Also, some probably would like artillery accuracy buffed. Friendly fire *isn't!*

    • @SemperVeritas.
      @SemperVeritas. 3 года назад +18

      @@Nerdnumberone look man, it’s not my fault, I told my CoC I was dyslexic before they put me in the FDC. It’s 100% on them if destroy the mout town 1200m outside the safety box.

    • @CM-NightDK
      @CM-NightDK 3 года назад +4

      Infantry when they make trenches: Hehe boi

  • @TransMiqote
    @TransMiqote 3 года назад +911

    "If you want to make money or get your country invaded then export tea to the British"
    Old timey gambling at its finest

    • @ryszch1616
      @ryszch1616 3 года назад +8

      Äh yes, it all comes together

    • @legogeneralgrievous2245
      @legogeneralgrievous2245 3 года назад +7

      Why not both?

    • @cancerino666
      @cancerino666 3 года назад +6

      Actually, the japanese only traded with the dutch and japanese.

    • @hukama6911
      @hukama6911 3 года назад +5

      @@thespiffingbrit export tea, then stop and ask for more money

    • @grilledflatbread4692
      @grilledflatbread4692 Год назад +1

      @@cancerino666 they didn't want any christian missionaries because they saw how they were used to divide and conquer

  • @landro9589
    @landro9589 3 года назад +1889

    "God favours the side with the most artillery"- Napoleon
    YES I WANT MORE OF THIS

    • @user-yc7rl1ip1z
      @user-yc7rl1ip1z 3 года назад +19

      Waterloo: LMAO nope =D

    • @johannoas1
      @johannoas1 3 года назад +18

      French flag at 9:10

    • @dakinoytc986
      @dakinoytc986 2 года назад +3

      Yeah i remember something like that on total war 2

    • @spadegaming6348
      @spadegaming6348 2 года назад +16

      @@user-yc7rl1ip1z waterloo was nothing just look at Leipzig napoleon outnumbered 2 to one encircled the largest battle in the history of Europe at the time nearly 500,000 soldiers deployed and yet napoleon still inflicted more casualties on the enemy before he was eventually overrun.

    • @lucianoiuorno2361
      @lucianoiuorno2361 2 года назад +4

      @@spadegaming6348 it was the largest battle prior to WW1

  • @BalkanRedneck
    @BalkanRedneck 2 года назад +1382

    "If cannonballs you refuse to yeet, be prepared to suffer defeat."
    -Sun Tzu, most likely

    • @the_luckiest_charm
      @the_luckiest_charm 2 года назад +32

      Sun Tzu would cream himself if he saw artillery

    • @xiphos8219
      @xiphos8219 2 года назад +16

      @@the_luckiest_charm The victor is decided before the battle begins - Sun Tzu
      We have cannons, bitch - Us

    • @Borgolii
      @Borgolii 2 года назад +3

      Pretty sure it was Gandhi

    • @GAMER123GAMING
      @GAMER123GAMING 2 года назад +5

      @@the_luckiest_charm 99% of all pre cannon generals would cream themselves

    • @oliverpohlproductions8291
      @oliverpohlproductions8291 Год назад +3

      @@Borgolii No his was about nuclear bombs.

  • @TauShasla
    @TauShasla 3 года назад +1912

    "Noone would do entire armies out of artillery" -
    **nervously looks at all the hellstorm missile batteries behind him**

  • @537monster
    @537monster 2 года назад +1273

    If you ever play this online with someone else who’s obsessed with artillery, things turn into WWI very quickly.

    • @michaelturner5093
      @michaelturner5093 2 года назад +107

      Historically Accurate

    • @thefoxita1634
      @thefoxita1634 2 года назад +89

      Actually did it, basically became trench warfare

    • @jigmedradulthinley4406
      @jigmedradulthinley4406 Год назад +28

      And the soldier will get shell shocked like Jeremy from 18:04

    • @Echo964
      @Echo964 Год назад +5

      Lmao

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 Год назад +7

      @@thefoxita1634 I hope that your trenches stayed dry, don’t want any trench foot going around.

  • @SpaceKnight105
    @SpaceKnight105 3 года назад +334

    4:12
    People of Tsushima "don't worry the ghost will save us!!!"
    " ghost gets bonked by a cannon ball"

    • @ahopefor
      @ahopefor 3 года назад +67

      I guess you could say the ghost was shelled.
      And no I'm not sorry.

    • @eugeneflores6153
      @eugeneflores6153 3 года назад +13

      Lovely stuff
      - SpiffingBrit

    • @somewhat._.damaged
      @somewhat._.damaged 2 года назад +12

      Underrated comment, specially when I tried this, and I bonked some Kisho Ninja units, it was brilliant. So confirmed the ghost can definetly be killed by artilery.

    • @ryoumakoushiro7447
      @ryoumakoushiro7447 2 года назад +5

      @@ahopefor Take my like and go

    • @mirceazaharia2094
      @mirceazaharia2094 2 года назад +1

      Ghost = B U S T E D

  • @mayhemizer388
    @mayhemizer388 2 года назад +785

    "I love the smell of war crimes in the morning."
    - Every British imperialist ever

  • @izanagi6778
    @izanagi6778 3 года назад +841

    "Yeet beyond the actual accuracy of this cannon"

    • @gamingforever9121
      @gamingforever9121 3 года назад +44

      @@thespiffingbrit go beyond YEET ULTRA!

    • @Cpt.Str4ng3
      @Cpt.Str4ng3 3 года назад +16

      @@thespiffingbrit That could be an overpriced shirt.

    • @superminion9584
      @superminion9584 3 года назад +4

      @@gamingforever9121 hello fellow Mha weeb

    • @andregon4366
      @andregon4366 3 года назад +3

      @@thespiffingbrit I just need to find a cannon to shove myself in it.

    • @CorwinAlexander
      @CorwinAlexander 3 года назад +7

      It's similar to things like VATS in Fallout 3, NV, and 4: the listed accuracy is limited in range and skill, but if the player skill is high, they can snipe from far greater distances than the maximum VATS range. I like games that include a way for less skilled players to survive, but that include a way for skilled players to thrive.

  • @PapaFlammy69
    @PapaFlammy69 3 года назад +3379

    Cannons are overpowered
    Spiff is overpowered
    => Spiff is a Cannon confirmed

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69 3 года назад +58

      @@thespiffingbrit :^D

    • @dylananderson1055
      @dylananderson1055 3 года назад +26

      Spiff then how do you explain the oil canisters

    • @dylananderson1055
      @dylananderson1055 3 года назад +14

      And pirchforks

    • @louis67gg
      @louis67gg 3 года назад +48

      Too be "cannon" in French actually mean to be super sexy . It's confirmed Spiff is super sexy ! *o*

    • @superminion9584
      @superminion9584 3 года назад +6

      😂

  • @TimeTraveleryt
    @TimeTraveleryt 3 года назад +226

    "These are not my quotes."
    - Sun Tzu

  • @shesh2265
    @shesh2265 3 года назад +699

    funniest part of this video is Spiff naming a random japanese soldier "Jeremy"

    • @jazermano
      @jazermano 3 года назад +33

      That's modern Latinisation in a nutshell, my friend. Take something foreign, make it sound okay in english, and then try to spell it. Then ignore all that, and give it your own name.

    • @youneedpsychologyindonesia7123
      @youneedpsychologyindonesia7123 3 года назад +5

      Hufff now it wont be funny since you commented

    • @user-eq9xs5fz9u
      @user-eq9xs5fz9u 2 года назад +19

      *O B A M A*

    • @WhenDevilsDuel
      @WhenDevilsDuel 2 года назад +11

      @@jazermano latinisation is a dumb word. Just like latinist. Roman time period has way too much bias. High key the existence of that name makes me feel ashamed for being a history buff. Just so childish and gimmicky. There's no such thing as a latinist, you're either historian or your not, specializing in one time period doesn't turn you into a sub cat historian. It's dumb.

    • @weakness.detector
      @weakness.detector 2 года назад +1

      it's required for the exploit to grow exponentially

  • @boogaloobaloo
    @boogaloobaloo 3 года назад +988

    Spiff: "This is why cannons are so unfair."
    Me: "That is historically quite accurate."

    • @DrWongburger
      @DrWongburger 3 года назад +71

      This game needs a Franco-Prussian war expansion. The mechanics are perfect for 19th century warfare. Too bad you'll have to be satisfied with Warhammer 7.

    • @FurArmoredBear
      @FurArmoredBear 3 года назад +38

      @@DrWongburger Thank you dear time traveler for confirming warhammer 7!

    • @DrWongburger
      @DrWongburger 3 года назад +18

      @@FurArmoredBear lol just planning ahead. I've already began giving up hope on the series, which hurts because it has always been my favorite.

    • @shanedoesyoutube8001
      @shanedoesyoutube8001 3 года назад +5

      @@DrWongburger whoaaa whoa whoa whoa whoa, this is Japan this game's focused on, get that dlc on the appropriate title

    • @TheMrAndyn0v2
      @TheMrAndyn0v2 3 года назад +14

      @@DrWongburger Warhammer 7? Thank god, CA has finally given up on appeasing the tight arsed "my way or the high way" historic players!

  • @vincenttorrijos9680
    @vincenttorrijos9680 3 года назад +3496

    aka: Using boosted colonial military technology to make it equivalent to modern military technology to dominate weebs

    • @jadenzantslayers6694
      @jadenzantslayers6694 3 года назад +80

      Become a knock of British Empire in these 3 simple steps

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 года назад +12

      GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! I want to cut my toe nails... NEVER! I am the feet RUclipsr. Thanks for being a fan, dear spi

    • @mirurururuvein
      @mirurururuvein 3 года назад +34

      ...How can actual Japanese be weebs?

    • @Chandler27
      @Chandler27 3 года назад +7

      Can you be a weeb and a Japanese person in Japan?

    • @AndusDominae
      @AndusDominae 3 года назад +28

      Tbf, my old Japanese teacher (Japanese born and bred) referred to the kind of Japanese folk weebs try to emulate as "f*ckin-gu weeb-zu ne!".
      He drank a lot of whiskey and whisky... he was hilarious.

  • @realprojecttools9127
    @realprojecttools9127 Год назад +124

    15 years of hardcore training as samurai warrior just to be hit by a random shrapnel before you can even draw your sword in battle.

    • @dragonllig790
      @dragonllig790 Год назад +14

      Why knights/samurai where phases out in a nutshell

    • @EddieSpaghetti69
      @EddieSpaghetti69 11 месяцев назад +8

      The easier to use and shorter training for decent tactics (gun goes this way, firing lines, working with cavalry) made it so experience mattered less. You wanted as many guns and as many people as possible to make hailstorms of lead.
      AKA, what Spiff does here!

  • @username-ru6ul
    @username-ru6ul 2 года назад +130

    I love the idea that naval bombardment was like from a WW2 Battleship with radio equipment to pick the exact place to target

    • @rikrishshrestha5421
      @rikrishshrestha5421 2 года назад

      radio was required when a ship can't even see the target area. But,in this game most beach battles are open n ships can calculate how far they need to shoot without radio.

    • @user-vn6no3ci4f
      @user-vn6no3ci4f 2 года назад

      @@rikrishshrestha5421 500 meters is maximum you can get with those cannons

    • @Twizted86
      @Twizted86 Год назад +6

      I know it's not 100% accurate, but the game is set in the late 1860s and the first spark-gap radios were being used around 1896, which were basically wireless telegraph machines, which were used later ship-to-shore and shore-to-ship transmissions.. so with a little imagination you could apply the knowledge to a playthrough of your own neglecting to use the naval bombardment until 1896, though you would have probably finished the campaign by this time.. lol

    • @FirstLast-di5sr
      @FirstLast-di5sr Год назад +2

      Flag relays maybe?

    • @ohauss
      @ohauss Год назад +4

      @@Twizted86 You can see them deploy a torch marker to the designated target area, so assume the naval crew observed that being launched and has a rough guesstimate where it went down.

  • @crazymaniac3000
    @crazymaniac3000 3 года назад +200

    "Artillery brings dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl".
    Said by Frederick the great.
    Refined by Spiffing Brit.

    • @boceksiadam
      @boceksiadam 3 года назад +7

      That's 18th century tho. Who knows what he would've thought about it after a century or two. Cuz artillery became overpowering.

    • @daddysempaichan
      @daddysempaichan 3 года назад +1

      Refined by Spiff the Brit.

    • @squashiejoshie200000
      @squashiejoshie200000 3 года назад +1

      "God fights on the side with the best artillery" - Napoleon

  • @thegreatestpepe
    @thegreatestpepe 3 года назад +802

    Spiff: "Cannons are incredibly overpowered!"
    History: "Yes."

    • @Just_A_Dude
      @Just_A_Dude 3 года назад +26

      Reminds me of WoWS's complaints about Aircraft Carriers.

    • @alexread6767
      @alexread6767 2 года назад +5

      Agincourt but it explodes

    • @CircusJeanie2399
      @CircusJeanie2399 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Just_A_DudeIn this case it's a little more justified because yes Aircraft Carriers are incredibly powerful but this was due to the fact that you would be attacked by a massive wave of aircraft from 10's of kilometers away and you'd never get a chance to shoot at them. And (unlike in WoWS) when they did get attacked they had a habit of going up in flames and are incredibly fragile to this day. lots of things that go boom on board. Meanwhile in WoWS you can shoot at them with a 406mm HE salvo and barely scratch the paint, where as historically that would have disabled the ship for the battle if it didn't completely destroy it. anyways this has been my presentation on why I shouldn't read the comments on youtube. goodbye

  • @Rasta8889
    @Rasta8889 2 года назад +195

    Yeah I remember playing like this. I also remember what happened to you: When the guns get really accurate, they aim not towards the center of an enemy formation but instead to the sides. So I manually aimed my shrapnel shots and turned off auto fire. Killing 500 men in a single volley is entirely feasible this way. Also the US marines get crazy good at level 5 and above.

  • @etiennemourez3059
    @etiennemourez3059 2 года назад +101

    "Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl" Alte Fritz of Prussia (Aka Frederick the Great)

  • @pepijnoosterhuis6121
    @pepijnoosterhuis6121 3 года назад +203

    I saw the title and was like: "What? European Cannons suck in Shogun 2! It's FOTS, makes a LOT more sense"

    • @badfoody
      @badfoody 3 года назад +11

      @@thespiffingbrit the miracles of rifling

    • @THENemesisXX99
      @THENemesisXX99 3 года назад +8

      Pilps would have words with thee

    • @igorokinamujika2073
      @igorokinamujika2073 3 года назад +45

      Well, they suck when they are on land. European ships in vanilla Shogun 2 are so OP you can destroy almost any fleet with just one Nanban trade ship. Then, there is the almighty Black ship thats even more OP, but there is only one and you must capture it. Its so powerful that facing it with a japanese fleet feels like a bossfight.

    • @Sasputa
      @Sasputa 3 года назад +2

      Lmao same here.

    • @Oblithian
      @Oblithian 3 года назад +1

      @@igorokinamujika2073 sounds fun

  • @kingofcards9516
    @kingofcards9516 3 года назад +234

    "God favours the side with the most artillery"- Napoleon

    • @Jamie-st6of
      @Jamie-st6of 3 года назад +5

      i don't think napoleon is a great example of God's favor

    • @kingofcards9516
      @kingofcards9516 3 года назад +17

      @@Jamie-st6of he said it just to express the importance of artillery

    • @greatandmightykevin
      @greatandmightykevin 3 года назад

      @@Jamie-st6of how so?

    • @jasonisbored6679
      @jasonisbored6679 3 года назад +15

      @@greatandmightykevin the underlying information is that napoleon and his regime were very much atheistic, and I'm sure you can imagine somebody equating "God's Favor" (finger quotes and all) with victory. Hence, more artillery is the key factor says napoleon.

    • @greatandmightykevin
      @greatandmightykevin 3 года назад +1

      @@jasonisbored6679 ah, i see

  • @trexlord1
    @trexlord1 2 года назад +73

    I love Fall of the Samurai. It's an amazing total war game. I typically take over a decent region of japan then stop all expansion as I spend the next 50 turns developing my economy so I have a military industrial complex that is able to overwhelm any and all contenders.

    • @DutchGuyMike
      @DutchGuyMike 2 года назад +2

      I just wish it did not have the audio bugs. Decking out the entire line with musket armed troops only for them to fire and you barely hearing any firing sounds.. it really takes away the "oomph" that a battle should have.

    • @ohauss
      @ohauss Год назад

      @@DutchGuyMike You have plenty of oomph when you do naval bombardment. You'll have the mother of all oomphs.

  • @goryguy5106
    @goryguy5106 2 года назад +49

    "Horses weren't designed to defeat cannonballs with their faces."
    - The Spiffing Brit

  • @ondank
    @ondank 3 года назад +199

    "Cannons are overpowered" - yeah that is generally the conclusion drawn when peoples first encounter the guys with the cannons for the first time

    • @freakymoejoe2
      @freakymoejoe2 3 года назад +13

      I cant believe the devs have let the cannon meta go unchecked for this long

    • @FriskyD.
      @FriskyD. 3 года назад +3

      @@freakymoejoe2 they've kinda been phased out now, missiles are the only real strategy at the moment

    • @freakymoejoe2
      @freakymoejoe2 3 года назад +7

      @@FriskyD. misiles are just further up the cannon tech tree

    • @FriskyD.
      @FriskyD. 3 года назад +1

      @@freakymoejoe2 ah, I see

    • @howardlam6181
      @howardlam6181 3 года назад

      @@freakymoejoe2 that's why we have warhammer where the cannons get shed by flying units

  • @TenebSR
    @TenebSR 3 года назад +225

    The "close victory" calculations also take into account ammo spent. For some reason.
    So if you used up most of your ammo, the game thinks it was a close battle.
    Just Total War being Total War.

    • @classicfrog80
      @classicfrog80 3 года назад +42

      I mean, it's not entirely wrong. Imagine if there were few more regiments of the troops to deal with but you had no more ammo to deliver the artillery abuse any more, it might have been just enough critical mass to overwhelm your troops.

    • @TheRealMNi
      @TheRealMNi 3 года назад +16

      Ah that explains some of my "close" but not close defensive battles as Dwarves or High Elves.

    • @Oblithian
      @Oblithian 3 года назад +8

      Well I mean... if there are 1000 men and 1000 bullets and you use them all, and kill them all while losing no-one. I don't think that's close.

    • @padmad3832
      @padmad3832 3 года назад +8

      It's really important to mind your ammunition in newer total wars if you want to inflict army losses penalty on enemies earlier.
      The game values archers without ammo as absolutely worthless when it comes to balance of power.

    • @jasonisbored6679
      @jasonisbored6679 3 года назад

      @@Oblithian but like, what if only 3/4 hit? now you've got to fight melee with literal spearmen and samurai, with what, bayonets?

  • @OSKXT2500
    @OSKXT2500 3 года назад +46

    hearing "It can be doubled from 38 to 68" killed something inside me

  • @Hermitstatus
    @Hermitstatus 3 года назад +31

    It's really fun watching Spiff get all excited about artillery, this makes me wonder if the generals of old just before WW1 felt about the same way.

    • @ingold1470
      @ingold1470 Год назад +4

      Against an enemy that took the most basic precautions, artillery barrages were quite slow in doing their damage, judging by Churchill's (yes, that one) 1899 book The River War. The bombardment he describes lasted 90 minutes, and the actual assault still encountered heavy resistance.
      "The hush of the hour and the suspense of the army were broken by the bang of a gun. Everyone on the ridge jumped up and looked towards the sound. A battery of Krupps a little to the right of the Cameron Highlanders had opened fire. Another gun further to the right was fired. Another shell burst over the straw huts among the palm-trees. The two Maxim-Nordenfeldt batteries had come into action. The officers looked at their watches. It was a quarter-past six. The bombardment had begun.
      Explosion followed explosion in quick succession until all four batteries were busily engaged. The cannonade grew loud and continuous. The rocket detachment began to fire, and the strange projectiles hissed and screamed as they left the troughs and jerked erratically towards the zeriba. In the air above the enclosure shell after shell flashed into existence, smote the ground with its leaden shower, and dispersed-a mere film-into the haze and smoke which still hung over the Dervish encampment. At the very first shot all the dirty-white figures disappeared, bobbing down into their pits and shelters; but a few solitary horsemen remained motionless for a while in the middle of the enclosure, watching the effect of the fire, as if it had no concern with them. The British infantry stood up on tip-toe to look at the wonderful spectacle of actual war, and at first every shell was eagerly scrutinised and its probable effect discussed. But the busy gunners multiplied the projectiles until so many were alive in the air at once that all criticism was prevented. Gradually even the strange sight became monotonous. The officers shut up their glasses. The men began to sit down again. Many of them actually went to sleep. The rest were soon tired of the amazing scene, the like of which they had never looked on before, and awaited impatiently further developments and 'some new thing.'"

    • @Tykus59
      @Tykus59 4 месяца назад

      @@ingold1470my man just wrote an entire essay

  • @Quidney
    @Quidney 3 года назад +310

    playing war game;
    *Shoots cannon*
    **strike**
    What

    • @Quidney
      @Quidney 3 года назад +11

      @@thespiffingbrit lol

    • @nontowfoo
      @nontowfoo 3 года назад +12

      @@thespiffingbrit Can't wait for Wii Waterboarding

    • @lukasvoorhis6964
      @lukasvoorhis6964 3 года назад +6

      @@nontowfoo don’t they already have that?

    • @blackog7820
      @blackog7820 3 года назад +1

      I couldn't let pass a video with such a starting.

  • @trebor797
    @trebor797 3 года назад +153

    I feel so bad for him being so proud of his reload skill on the cannons. As I played and studied this game for 2800 hours I can say there are reload caps on multiple units, including cannon. Basically reload improvements on Armstrongs cannons has no effect as its based in the code of the game that a unit has to have a minnimum reload time and Armstrongs reached that with their base reload already so the increased stats there changed nothing. Also the accuracy is kinda capped, its still getting better with every point but after like 90 accuracy the differences are just not really noticable anymore. But still a nice video :)

    • @conradk.3098
      @conradk.3098 3 года назад +42

      @@thespiffingbrit iirc reload caps are limited by animation speed, and animation speeds have a hard upper limit to keep it from looking janky. I used to make mods for this game.

    • @AceOfBlackjack
      @AceOfBlackjack 3 года назад +1

      @@conradk.3098 fun

    • @trebor797
      @trebor797 3 года назад +17

      @@thespiffingbrit No worries not many people know that. Shogun 2 is full of Mechanics and secrets I found out only slowly over time. When I heard of it I didn't believed it too, but I tested with a friend in testbattles. If you want to know another secret about cannons I discovered, here is the timebomb: Have your cannons fire at will off, activate shrapnell and use selfaiming. The cannonball will stuck in the ground and release a shrapnell explosion after multiple seconds. Its not op but very fun to use as in battles it takes alot prediction ;) In case you consider doing another video about Shogun 2 feel free to ask me for other perfectly balanced mechanics

    • @steffennilsen2132
      @steffennilsen2132 3 года назад +5

      @@conradk.3098 its the same in all total war games, you cant increase stats beyond what the animation dictates; attack/movement/reload speeds are generally capped at one point.

    • @trebor797
      @trebor797 3 года назад +10

      @@steffennilsen2132 Yeah thats true, but in most TW games you usally don't reach caps(that easy). In Shogun 2 however there are so many different skills that can boost the same thing. Like in his video he had Ganbatte that boosts reload, inspire does aswell and also skilltrees. In multiplayer there are even dojos that boost reload by 20 and not seldom I have seen player being so proud of their line infantery having over 100 reload already (cap is between 80-90 I guess) and still activating supressive fire(+20 reload -20 accuracy) so they effectively weakened their unit. In other TW games you don't really have to care about such caps thats why most people don't know caps exist in Shogun 2

  • @blarfnugle5653
    @blarfnugle5653 2 года назад +155

    There's a reason why artillery is the most casualty inducing weapon in the battlefield. Why fight with swords when you can blow the enemy up from a safe distance?

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 2 года назад

      The first task of artillery is usually to duel with the enemy artillery. Artillerymen have it worse than people think.

    • @xChitenshi
      @xChitenshi Год назад +2

      and that's when war has entirely stopped to be anything else than mass murder :(

    • @lyntoncollins2758
      @lyntoncollins2758 Год назад

      @@xChitenshi War has always been, by definition, mass murder ...

    • @superwatcher456
      @superwatcher456 Год назад +4

      @@xChitenshi it almost always has been. Fighting with swords is not more morale than fighting with artillery or guns, the only exception may be chemical warfare, fire and nuclear weaponry.

    • @nsdapcommunism2780
      @nsdapcommunism2780 6 месяцев назад

      @@superwatcher456no, fight with swords is a noble which is determined by opponent’s skill. You also die from the hand of the human. Saying that industrial warfare is no different from ancient warfare is crazy

  • @justicedunham4088
    @justicedunham4088 2 месяца назад +4

    “This is why cannons are so unfair” in a British accent is probably what the Zulu War sounded like.

  • @pathfinder_strider
    @pathfinder_strider 3 года назад +194

    Let's just take a minute to appreciate what a absolute masterpiece Shogun 2 actually was.

    • @sanji663
      @sanji663 3 года назад +8

      YES!

    • @andregon4366
      @andregon4366 3 года назад +12

      And then Rome 2 came and had to fuck it up 😟

    • @marc0523
      @marc0523 3 года назад +23

      Shogun 2 was peak Total War, the high point.

    • @finnishboo4192
      @finnishboo4192 3 года назад +8

      @@marc0523 yes but now we need Empire 2 or total war after napeleon lost at about 1850???

    • @Braad6
      @Braad6 3 года назад

      Yes indeed

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 3 года назад +86

    Intro clip.
    Spiff: "Oh, I'm sure you have heard about cannons before, but have you heard about _HOWITZERS?"_

    • @stndunnam
      @stndunnam 3 года назад +6

      HAUBITZEN!

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 3 года назад +1

      @@stndunnam Howitzer=Гаубица

    • @stndunnam
      @stndunnam 3 года назад +3

      @@TheArklyte 24 Pfund gezogene Hinterlader-Feldgeschütze. Sie haben eine Reichweite von 5 Kilometern und eine beispiellose Präzision. Halten Sie Ihre Ohren zu, meine Herren, nur der Lärm, den sie machen, ist tödlich!
      Haubitzen!

  • @Yeetmastr4
    @Yeetmastr4 11 месяцев назад +20

    "We haven't even touched the castle yet"
    *Points to one of the 400 holes in the wall

  • @zeetraveler6777
    @zeetraveler6777 3 года назад +7

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONG! I played Shogun 2 a long time ago and just crushed everything with cannons and was really hoping you would make this. Thank you so much!

  • @12Prophet
    @12Prophet 3 года назад +148

    The Geneva convention is more like a todo-list.

    • @blazi2293
      @blazi2293 3 года назад +27

      The Geneva suggestion*

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 3 года назад +5

      "to-don't-list"*

    • @ahopefor
      @ahopefor 3 года назад +6

      Didn't even exist during the time of Shogun 2, apologies for ruining the joke but if it wasn't me then it would of been someone else

    • @12Prophet
      @12Prophet 3 года назад +5

      @@ahopefor You're good, no worries. :p I'd also be "that guy" to state the obvious. Your response still made me chuckle nevertheless. Cheers.

    • @mikez2779
      @mikez2779 3 года назад +3

      well, now you know where the idea to write this convention actually came from...

  • @connormcgarry9424
    @connormcgarry9424 3 года назад +58

    "The sky's the limit when you manually controll the cannon ball" - The Spiffing Brit

  • @burstingwizard975
    @burstingwizard975 2 года назад +9

    Note: Defenders during a siege have a massive disadvantage. Fortifications are immobile. If you have longer-range weapons (like a cannon) then their fortifications become their tomb. Having your enemy sally forth is only advantageous if their weapons have a longer range than your own

  • @thenotflatearth2714
    @thenotflatearth2714 3 года назад +49

    Mongolian army: defeated almost entirely by Jin Sakai alone
    Spiffing Brit with his spicy iron sticks: heavenly strike this you casual

    • @jimjim696
      @jimjim696 3 года назад +10

      I honestly thought there would me more people making references to ghost of tsushima

    • @jasonisbored6679
      @jasonisbored6679 3 года назад +1

      'spicy iron sticks' ahh yes, my favorite tool for realizing empirial ambitions!

  • @richardgonzalez6409
    @richardgonzalez6409 3 года назад +32

    136 accuracy = "Get wrecked. Sincerly, the cannon standing 89 miles away from you."

  • @user-dw6vn8xi2r
    @user-dw6vn8xi2r 2 года назад +14

    "Canons are op" - this is how you know this game is historically accurate

  • @Aerithia1
    @Aerithia1 3 года назад +2

    Definitely want to see more of this series. Everytime I play shogun 2 I always go hard for artillery and clean up every battle

  • @716pfeast
    @716pfeast 3 года назад +210

    "Why fight people when you can just yeet cannons at them?"
    Americans: "Yeah, we know".

    • @PuppetierMaster
      @PuppetierMaster 3 года назад +24

      Napoleon: Hey! I did that shit before it was cool

  • @vikingcathq
    @vikingcathq 3 года назад +46

    Imagine being told you're only 'slightly' sacrificial. That'll boost the men's morale.

    • @fortusvictus8297
      @fortusvictus8297 2 года назад +1

      Thats the point of Basic Training... teach them they are sacrificial but if they are REALLY good at it they may become important enough to make it worth it and more likely to survive at the same time.
      At least thats how it used to be.

  • @yers7638
    @yers7638 3 года назад +14

    "Canon is a massive sniper that can outclassed modern sniper"

    • @Elssi
      @Elssi 2 года назад

      How is this comment both edited and illiterate?

  • @Metrasov
    @Metrasov 2 года назад +4

    satsuma can get an insane accuracy pretty early for units from their home province, because they have a weapon factory and increase it more by training camp ,plus getting an officer to make all units to max rank and by the end canons will have 70-80 accuracy ,same for infantry, but infantry will have around 110

  • @richlongiii7333
    @richlongiii7333 3 года назад +42

    "I Love the smell of War Crimes in the morning."
    Well alright, glad to be subscribed.

  • @Say_No_To_e-Girls
    @Say_No_To_e-Girls 3 года назад +54

    Frederick the Great Quote: “Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl.”

  • @pjilla629
    @pjilla629 3 года назад

    Dude your vids make me feel so cozy and relaxed it's crazy. Love seeing new vids show up in my recommended box. Nothing beats laying in bed and chilling out with the spiff

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal 3 года назад +21

    "Oh no cannons in the game are broken, we must disable chat rooms"
    -CA

  • @sweatilaa5325
    @sweatilaa5325 3 года назад +29

    oh no, the thumbnail fooled me! here i thought i was clicking on a brand new ISP video filled with memes but instead i now know all the secrets of Japanese warfare.

  • @ForemostCrab7
    @ForemostCrab7 3 года назад +25

    "we have sailed onto the lovely isle of Tsushima"
    Careful that Jin is not around.

    • @mahaanpadri
      @mahaanpadri 3 года назад +5

      He could probably singlehandedly thwart such an invasion

  • @yers7638
    @yers7638 3 года назад +15

    "If you want to made money or your country invaded just export tea to the British" -Spiff

  • @nahuel3433
    @nahuel3433 2 года назад +27

    I haven't played a lot of this games but my favorite battle I've ever done was in medieval 2 (I think) on the colonial expansion. I had a single cannon and like a unit of infantry and one of cavalry defending against an enormous army with a dinky little settlement.
    My strategy was to literally oprn the doors for them and since they all lined up I cannoned the fuck out of the entire army while my cavalry went for their comander. Won that battle with the skin of my teeth it was great.

  • @DauntlessAdonis
    @DauntlessAdonis 3 года назад +80

    *PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT*
    "Remember to be drinking your warm cups of tea ladies and gentlemen!" 🍵 🇬🇧

    • @Goekmoot
      @Goekmoot 3 года назад +1

      I DO AND YOU ALL SHOULD ITS NOT A SCAM

    • @colewegner7576
      @colewegner7576 3 года назад

      Maybe I will, but idk what tea to drink today

    • @Halinn
      @Halinn 3 года назад

      @@colewegner7576 Might I suggest Yorkshire Gold?

    • @ahopefor
      @ahopefor 3 года назад

      Is a cup of Barry's tea allowed?

  • @AverageFitnessEnjoyer
    @AverageFitnessEnjoyer 3 года назад +29

    This is what it was like when they were first invented

    • @affugter
      @affugter 3 года назад

      @@thespiffingbrit oh no you didn't

  • @Cannabenaut
    @Cannabenaut 3 года назад +12

    "I do not have to tell you who won the war. You know, the artillery did" - George Pattin

    • @shanedoesyoutube8001
      @shanedoesyoutube8001 3 года назад

      *pissed off metal bird noises*

    • @Thot-Slayer-420
      @Thot-Slayer-420 3 года назад

      "God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte

    • @helikos1
      @helikos1 3 года назад +1

      Patton* for next time.

  • @tarrker
    @tarrker 3 года назад

    I absolutely want to see more. I had a bad experience when I originally played this game and kinda forgot that it even existed. Thanks for getting me to go back and play it again. :)

  • @mammothachoo
    @mammothachoo 3 года назад +47

    The joy he said "war crimes" with though xD

    • @Tylxr_Stxxlx
      @Tylxr_Stxxlx 3 года назад +2

      Every time. He's a mad man.

  • @AvengerAtIlipa
    @AvengerAtIlipa 3 года назад +15

    "It was the most beautiful thing I ever saw." -US Artillery Officer at Gettysburg on Pickett's Charge

  • @warehouse957
    @warehouse957 3 года назад +10

    when spiff said "easy peazy walk through the park" my brain heard "easy peazy war crimes through the park...'
    --both were accurate

  • @alexsmith3083
    @alexsmith3083 2 года назад +10

    The giddiness of Spiff when he calls in naval bombardments is so very British.

  • @kishkarpisek9271
    @kishkarpisek9271 3 года назад +30

    Seems like Spiff finally makes ARTILERY ONLY

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 3 года назад +12

    Cannons in Empire: Balanced.
    Cannons in Napoleon: Balanced.
    Cannons in Warhammer: Sometimes Balanced.
    Cannons in Medeviel: Balanced.
    Cannons in Shogun 2, or whenever Spiff walks into the room: Literal weapons of mass destruction!

    • @ducmingnguyen1891
      @ducmingnguyen1891 3 года назад +1

      Cannon in empire is useless

    • @trk1b28varianrhesa4
      @trk1b28varianrhesa4 2 года назад +1

      Correction= cannon in Empire: near useless

    • @killme69
      @killme69 3 месяца назад

      ​@@trk1b28varianrhesa4unless you aim at the ground in front of a unit, then it shoots with laser precision

    • @trk1b28varianrhesa4
      @trk1b28varianrhesa4 3 месяца назад +1

      @@killme69tbf the sharpnell shot sometimes deals so much damage to line infantry(The AI sometimes confused and put blob of infantry regiments together)

  • @kenken494
    @kenken494 3 года назад

    Wow, I just installed and played Total War: Shogun 2 again yesterday, and you uploaded a video of it today, thanks!

  • @Volkaer
    @Volkaer Год назад +1

    Watched the entirety of this video while taking a crap sitting on a toilet. I don't know why, but for some reason it just felt right.

  • @lesekatze20
    @lesekatze20 3 года назад +26

    I saw this video and accidentally read "Total War: Shotgun 2" and what I got was not disappointing at all xD

    • @Pink_Invader
      @Pink_Invader 3 года назад +1

      I mean.... it is not wrong

    • @Pink_Invader
      @Pink_Invader 3 года назад +1

      I mean.... it is not wrong

    • @shanedoesyoutube8001
      @shanedoesyoutube8001 3 года назад

      Go look for a video titled *the Otomo experience* and read through the comments. One of them had that same experience as yours

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 3 года назад +14

    Total Shogun 2 developers when you're yeeting:
    "What are forward observers for anyway?"

  • @ImperialLegion15
    @ImperialLegion15 3 года назад +5

    I absolutely love the Armstrong gun in FOTS, it's so powerful and fun to use

  • @snva8038
    @snva8038 2 года назад +25

    "God is on the side with the best artillery"
    - Oki Takato, after exploding all of Japan

  • @williamhartig9904
    @williamhartig9904 3 года назад +15

    This counts as interaction

  • @aznperson8
    @aznperson8 3 года назад +9

    17:10 Kintamas out for the four brave souls who actually decided to continue the defense against the mighty Spiff. Pour out some tea for that bravery (perhaps not the good tea though, not the Yorkshire Gold).

  • @otomotopia1
    @otomotopia1 3 года назад +10

    14:46 "Oh this is brilliant, look at the casualties!" - Spiffing Brit 2021

  • @theclickbaithub5285
    @theclickbaithub5285 Год назад +14

    Spiff : Goes to invade Tsushima
    "successfully invades Tsushima"
    Me : It would appear Jin Sakai is already dead or just isn't born yet

  • @elgabrio7262
    @elgabrio7262 3 года назад +36

    Next time:
    Oda are a perfectly balanced clan with no exploits

    • @jamesmeppler6375
      @jamesmeppler6375 3 года назад +1

      Does the oda get the genius toyatomi hideyoshi? Granted that wasnt his name till after oda nobunaga died

    • @SkarScreaner
      @SkarScreaner 3 года назад +7

      @@jamesmeppler6375 No, but their standard peasant units are massively upgraded making them close in strength to samurai while having like 100 more men on large unit scale. They are also less than half the price and upkeep cost. Also they can be recruited from any city faster and at higher rank.

    • @jamesmeppler6375
      @jamesmeppler6375 3 года назад +3

      @@SkarScreaner oh snap, makes sense historically speaking, the oda army had a knack for flipping enemy armies and generals. Perhaps ill give the Oda a try, I was thinking of a Takeda game but they can be tricky

    • @nogisonoko5409
      @nogisonoko5409 3 года назад +2

      @@jamesmeppler6375
      Takeda require excellent micro on cav.

    • @Akkise
      @Akkise 3 года назад +1

      @@nogisonoko5409 No. You can win as the Takeda ignoring cav entirely.

  • @jakeegan3195
    @jakeegan3195 3 года назад +13

    Two years I’ve been waiting on you to make this vid two years I tell you

    • @jamesmeppler6375
      @jamesmeppler6375 3 года назад +3

      Same, thank you spiffing britt! He didnt mention canons can glitch the game.
      This is the only game i lost in the tutorial. Cannons couldnt be selected so i had to take on a castle with ninja...i lost bad

  • @gervysonordillas5542
    @gervysonordillas5542 2 года назад +2

    This is just one of the BEST total war videos I've ever watched👌

  • @zade1613
    @zade1613 3 года назад +16

    Use Chosokabe’s Daikyu samurai archers for a different video, they have a larger range than any other archers so for sieges you just get to block out the sun with arrows while the AI sits there

  • @MrMustang1945
    @MrMustang1945 3 года назад +11

    For once, I’m the person behind the screen going, “Yup, that’s broken, that’s broken, and that’s REALLY broken.”
    Artillery FTW.

  • @Jubjub1276
    @Jubjub1276 Год назад

    I love this game so much, would love to see another video on it. Keep up the great work!

  • @raymondy6499
    @raymondy6499 3 года назад +2

    Hattori in the standard campaign is so beautifully balanced!! You get scout deployment for basically your entire army... hope to see a video using it soon!

  • @TheRealAlpha2
    @TheRealAlpha2 3 года назад +9

    "Yeet" for Disntace, "Kobe" for Accuracy.

  • @krzysztofkaruzo6899
    @krzysztofkaruzo6899 3 года назад +35

    Someone: "No you cannot build your army only out of canons!"
    Me: *builds Late tier cannon army and bombards Japan*
    Me: "Very bold for someone in my canon range."

  • @swearfreegamer
    @swearfreegamer Год назад +3

    Spiff: ”Saga has a very unique bonus”
    Me: Zombies?

  • @user-if2to8ry4d
    @user-if2to8ry4d 23 дня назад

    Every few months I get bored of everyone on RUclips and have to find another streamer I can binge. You are that new streamer my friend.

  • @wombataldebaran9686
    @wombataldebaran9686 3 года назад +24

    And entire total war army made out of artillery?
    **Balthasar Gelt wants to know your location**

  • @SurrealKeenan
    @SurrealKeenan 3 года назад +6

    a lesser known unique skill that the Saga faction has is necromancy

  • @YanDude1
    @YanDude1 3 года назад

    your videos are so entertaining, keep it up!

  • @johnnytrapantino78
    @johnnytrapantino78 3 года назад

    You always seem to showcase the coolest games I've never heard of as a console player as of late
    Thanks

  • @etiennesa1723
    @etiennesa1723 3 года назад +5

    "Oh yes, there is no escape from these war-crimes!" xDxDxDxD

  • @Noofter
    @Noofter 2 года назад +6

    They really need to make a game in FoS time period but in Europe or the Americas. Realistically the cannons aren’t that OP, but when half your enemies are charging a battery of explosive shells with katanas and spears, it sure seems that way. I’ve noticed when you fight another modernized clan the game gets much more balanced, which is also why a TW title in the same time period but in a region where almost every faction is modernized would be a lot of fun

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 Год назад

      May I suggest Ultimate General: Civil War? Although it's not a Total War game, the battle system is fairly similar.

  • @JohnDoe-on6ru
    @JohnDoe-on6ru 3 года назад +1

    Those artillery shots were so satisfying

  • @nickp1370
    @nickp1370 3 года назад

    Awesome video! Absolute carnage! 😎

  • @GrassXMagnum
    @GrassXMagnum 3 года назад +7

    Spiff: "... But that's a sacrifice I'm more than willing to take"
    Me, cringing: "you don't 'take' a sacrifice, you 'make' it!!"

  • @zinaidanitikin4886
    @zinaidanitikin4886 3 года назад +18

    "I love the smell of war crimes in the morning"
    ~ The Spiffing Brit

  • @Daneki
    @Daneki 3 года назад

    Spiff, I'd just like you to know that you've broken RUclips recommendations so completely that this video was repeated in my feed 4 times just now. Literally, scrolling down it was once every 3 or 4 videos.
    Well done.

  • @m4dm3th0d
    @m4dm3th0d 3 года назад +2

    6:24 "Oh, I love the smell of war crimes in the morning!" might be the spiffiest thing Spiff has ever said

  • @squashiejoshie200000
    @squashiejoshie200000 3 года назад +7

    Fun fact. You can cheese the sieges in fall of the samurai even harder by attacking, letting your cannons use all their ammunition, and all naval bombardments, then withdrawing. You suffer no losses and the enemy has to repair. Also there is no way they can replenish all troops before you attack again. Also, because you don't re-siege, they will not sally forth, so you can come back and obliterate them once again.