@@jefgibbons Hey sorry for the delay. Some favorites I made would be "Chordz Please!" (Malstrom) "Space Gate" (Thor) and "Strange Flute" (Thor). Of the Combinators ; "Rhode to Space", "Trap Chorale" and "Frozen Landscapes" are standouts to me.
I started with reason 2.0 back in the boxed disc days. I can tell you first hand one huge deal with newer versions of reason, was finally being able to use 3rd party vsts instead of reason native. But reasons native vst is really all you need to make pro music. I am findimg myself go full circle from reason, to analog hardware world, to logic, to live, and back to version 12. Not only has my music gotten much better. But inspiration. I found the old tab workflow still works great. And being able to use all my vst in reason just makes sense and works seemless.
And keeping the creative flow out of hindrances is key. Reason is fabulous for inspiration. intergalactic by mix master mike/ B boys was made on reason. As well as the first Stromae.
You picked out a really nice feature - the Mimic advanced stretch -- useful on playing a sample (that contains modulations) to allow more natural sounding chords around the keyboard. Great for those of us seeking a natural-ish sound. And the better graphics in Reason 12, with zooming in/out, are much valued for those of us 'more mature' tunesmiths. Nice review Jef
I wish they would update the Recycle app and add it to the rack as an RE. Give it a dark theme, modernize it, and have an independent app and a RE. Would be stunning.
@@jefgibbons They released a blog post today that talked about transparency and road map, and... Not in the cards. It's a shame. Recycle was what made me originally pay attention to Propellerhead back in the day, and I always assumed they would create the most powerful sampling ecosystem ever. And then they didn''t.
So they finally put Recycle ♻️ in Reason,with Mimic sampler huh? A feature request from years ago, which was needed back in 2007. Good job 👍 just a bit behind.
LOL one year later and I'm still in shock that I paid for Reason eleven just before Reason twelve. Sometimes it hurts but I'm enjoying the software as best as I can.
As a Reason 11 owner, I appreciated the video Jeff. However I've already become disillusioned with the pace and direction of development and now only use Reason occasionally as a plug-in to Reaper. Like other users here, I don't see the value-add being sufficient to upgrade. More importantly, I needed VST3 about 6 years ago and badly wanted MPE about 3 years ago - the former is apparently possibly coming within the next year, but the latter is still not even mentioned as a potential. This means I have a bundle of VST3 effects that can't properly be used in Reason and I have hardware (e.g. Roli devices) with midi that can't properly be recorded or edited. If it were more reasonably priced I might go for Ableton or Bitwig, but for now Reaper is highly function, highly customisable, VST3-capable, MPE-compliant and excellent value.
Bob, you have given voice to my feelings. I like reason but I never seem to reach for it. It is outclassed and outgunned by Logic's Alchemy, Spectrasonics Omnisphere/Keyscape/Trillian, Synapse Dune, Modartt Keyboard Modeling, and the Arturia V collection. For effects I have been using Universal Audio plug-ins having the good fortune of owning their hardware.
I'm an 11 Studio user but I will not pay $129 for a sampler that doesn't do anything new, in my view. The Combinator 2 is interesting but not worth the price. I'll be happy with what I have. This is clearly a push for Reason+. I don't think this type of upgrade should be this pricey for a long-time user, such as myself. Throw us a bone Reason. Keep us as loyal users.
They’re raising the upgrade price to $199 on October 1st, and as someone who updated to Reason 12 already, imo there is no way in hell is it worth paying $199 to update to Reason 12. The new update might be 100% worth it for some, but it’s just not a big or even small game changer for me. I don’t like it any less than before the update, but I don’t really like it more than version 11 either.
@@nicolasstrawberry4148 I panicked and upgraded to 12 because of the price increase. Maybe that's their gameplan - coerce people into upgrading earlier than they perhaps would? Having spent some time with v12, it's nice but I do feel a bit ripped off. I'm just hoping that future free updates can help me justify the upgrade and rid me of this buyer's remorse.
@@nicolasstrawberry4148 With the upgrade pricing, Reason Studios are trying there hand as comedians. The upgrade pricing is absolutely meant to push old users out, and new ones over to the subscription model. As an old user...bravo👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Reason Studios. Mission accomplished!👍🏾👌🏾
@@coldskoolbeatz well I’m definitely not interested in a subscription to use Reason and I kind of suspect at some point they will go 100% subscription and ppl won’t be able to buy it outright, and the way they treat those of us who did buy it outright, a lot of people including myself won’t spend anymore money on Reason. I rarely use it as a Daw, I use it as a plugin once in a while in Ableton. I bought the suite and an Able Push 2 which cost a lot more but I feel like it was a better investment than spending anymore money with Reason Studios.
Reason 11 Suite was a really good deal - and it can't be bought anymore, but is effectively replaced by the subscription package. And the Reason 12 upgrade pricing seems relatively steep. -- Similar to iZotope and Native Instruments, the investment fund companies now seem to be having the ultimate say in the business models of these (formerly?) great music software companies. I suspect that the grand old companies are being seriously impacted by the presence of so many new competent audio developers, spreading total customer spending across more companies - and making everyone's revenue squeezed. So now, I'm seeing many more companies trying to acquire new customers with ultra low prices to start and then keeping upgrade prices higher - while attempting to lure everyone into subscriptions. It will be interesting to observe over the next few years how that works out for them.
For sure. I’m not a fan of subscriptions at all, but it does make the entry barrier low for first timers. I also appreciate that you can cut out and join back up at any time. I just think if they were cheaper they’d get exponentially more people to sign up!
@@dawatcherz yes indeed - and Melda Production also have life-time free upgrades. Spectrasonics have occasional paid upgrades, but very long multi-year stretches of significant free upgrades.
Jef, I saw a video where someone loaded chords from Chords and Scales to Chord Sequencer--- focusing on 4 chords and inversions. Interesting way to build off S&C limitations.
@@jefgibbons Maybe we can get yours going again? It's a rechargeable battery that's in this guy and there are replacements available on the web. All the programming is done on a cassette tape and it's best to use a 15 minute tape, nothing bigger.
A question about the Mimic Sampler. How can one, in the slice mode, record (route out) every single slot to its own dedicated/fixed midi track, so you stay witin just one instance of Mimic? if that is even possible? Or do you have to use multiple ones (copies) of it to achive that? Thanks for the answer.
I was thrown off at first as you have cubase opened on your screen. And it's hard to miss what is going on on that screen isn't it? ;) Nice vid though Peter Lazer
Legitimate question, if we already use Maschine 2 with a Mk3/+ controller is Reason bringing anything new to the workflow? Judging by this video, I'm actually seeing a more hampered workflow versus chopping my samples in Maschine 2.
Hey Bronwyn, the Reason sampler doesn't bring much to the Maschine user in terms of sampling. One sweet feature on it is the ability to detect the pitch of a sample AND to tune it! That would be welcome in Maschine... There's a lot Reason needs to add to the sampler to get it to the Maschine level, but it has the potential for sure.
I can confirm, Reason 12 is not worth upgrading. There is no value within the upgrade for the money they are asking for. Specially if people like myself have Presonus Studio ONE v5.4 and almost every major company synth & plugins in existence. And since Propellerheads sent out a notice that the price for upgrades will go up to $199 from now on, looks like Reason 11 will be my very last upgrade & use of that DAW & Rack. And I've been supporting propellerheads since Rebirth and Reason v1. ooh well, nice knowing them. Thank god for my Presonus Studio ONE v5.4
Nice video - such a disappointment that the very obvious issues with Mimic, that any new user to it would identify were never addressed. Apart from those mentioned you can't even programmatically switch active slots.
And keeping the creative flow out of hindrances is key. Reason is fabulous for inspiration. intergalactic by mix master mike/ B boys was made on reason. As well as the first Stromae.
Hi, I have a reason 10, how can I save midi, I don't know when I export a midi file, so everything sounds like a piano. Drums and bass in reason 10 hear a nice bass, drums but when I save it all the soundtrack so only the piano sounds please help thank you.
I agree with you on implementing a way to have mimic and octorex work interchangeably and that the sequence is way outdated. I would like to ad that they should make the mixer more intuitive with the new SSL software and that they should also add slice markers to mimic in tandem with slot options.
I've been a Reason user since version 1. When version 3 came out with the Combinator I was all over the forums asking for it to be upgraded to a bigger interface because the device had so much more potential. One of the main thing I kept asking for was a digital number display, similar to the waveform selector on the subtractor, so we'd have the ability to cycle through patterns or fx presets on the Combinator, fast forward to 17 odd years later and this weekend past, I finally upgraded from Suite 11 to 12, because it was half price for £100. Disappointed is not the word. STILL NO DIGITAL SELECTOR, the most obvious feature you'd ever want for a Combinator and they've still not made it happen, while its awesome you can add extra knobs and buttons, that's all you can add, and with all the variations, they still all just do the same thing so its near pointless having so many options to perform the same task. Add to that that when you upgrade to Reason 12, despite it being touted as having 29,000 new sounds in the sound bank, thid is in fact false advertising, there are litreally no new sounds at all, bar about 20 presets in the mimic sampler. New sounds are for Reason + subscribers only it would seem. Absolute bullshit. Safe to say if I'd bought Reason 12 when the half price offer wasn't on, I'd be seeking a refund immediately. I paid £100 and I feel like I've been robbed. Worst upgrade ever ! Was really looking forward to a new combinator too but that's just nowwhere near good enough ! Last time I give them my money. Pro Tools here I come.
Thanks for the video. This may seem like a stupid question but were do I see the midi input in Reason 12? In Logic, when I press C3 on my midi keyboad, I see it indicated in the Logic transport.
Lol mimic is not ready But the ability to create UI’s for combinator is pretty cool. I’ll wait on upgrading to 12 until they provide better functionality to mimic.
I doubt rex and/or midi export from Mimic is coming. Mimic is coded using the RE SDK which doesn't support this. Dr.Rex code is integrated into/part of Reason itself (not sandboxed) as it was not made as a Rack Extension.
Useful to know, but such a poor excuse for Reason to not simply reuse the code, copy it into a new library or the RE SDK, that would be so easy. Maybe they are saving it for R13, though that would suck.
Well I am still on Reason 10. When cash was available to me I bought Ableton 11. The sound I get from Ableton is richer than what I get from Reason, maybe due to the type of algorithm that they use. Ableton...to me offers more 'bang' for the buck, though there are still somethings missing that Reason have that Ableton doesn't have like being able to correctly align the pitch in a vocal. Still Ableton's sampling ability surpasses Reason by far where unlocking Creativity is concerned.
@@jefgibbons in Reason does it work, you build a chord Progression in Scale and Chords and then you are push the button on the right : sent to midi, and now you have the midi data in the sequencer in Reason, but I think the reason rack doesn’t have this function, I have tried it out in Ableton and reason rack….., in dr octo Rex you have a small note sign in the upper left of the device to copy the midi data in your sequencer track…..
Mimic drag in the midi file a Rex is NOT coming. Because Mimic was built with the Reason SDK and it doesn't support REX. Dr Octorex is a native unit, not SDK. If they redesign the SDK they could add it but that would be a looooong ways out.
I'd love it if I could put VSTs in the rack when Reason itself was in the rack, but they said that wasn't even on the road map. Unfortunately, I think they are pricing too high and delivering too little for what they charge.
When I hear both "FREE" & "Reason +"... ...And, I think of how it's like a new TV show added to Showtime or HBO, and someone nevvvvvver calls it "Free". LOL ;-)
As a long term professional in the PC industry, the biggest problem I have with the new release is actually the graphics fix. Reason was released in 2000. Vector graphics were a well understood and in place alternative at that time. So the fact is that Reason's development team in effect "cheaped out" in going with bitmapped graphics. Then, continued to turn a blind eye to this reality for almost 20 years, as the cost and time of the - arguably inevitable - fix grew. So, my issue is, I shouldn't have to pay for their original and continued misjudgment made in developing the product. So the dearth of features outside of this fix in the new release are what is leading me to sit this one out.
I watched your Native Instrument video and started to update from Komplete 11 to 13. Then I got an email on Reasons 12 for 50%off for the annual. What is your recommendation?
Man that’s a tough call! What go you see yourself using most? You probably can imagine one of them fitting your workflow best, unless you’ve never used Reason… if not, download the demo right away and explore! They both are fantastic really, and the subscription is great for someone who hasn’t paid in the past, not so much for those of us that have already paid loads over the years!
@@jefgibbons I have 11 in both KOMPLETE and Reasons. I usually try to update every two years. What sparked my interest are the new devices in reason so I’ll try it out. Then make my decision.
I really enjoyed your take here. But I wanted to raise a point on what you said about moving loops from mimic to Dr octorex. If you wanted to move a loop into Dr octorex, why would you need to do it from mimic. It's effortless to make a rex loop out of an audio file and no changes you make to a loop in mimic would be carried over anyway to octorex anyway. It just seemed like a mute point to me, great video otherwise though.
Thanks Stuart, it’s just that everything would be self contained and wouldn’t require buying Recycle, but you’re right, not much difference to just do it in Recycle!
@@jefgibbons Thanks. I am running 4k and I have issues in Ableton with plugins either being stretched or tiny. So, I'm trying to find a solution. I'll probably connect a regular monitor and use that for plugins. In Studio One, I have no problems at all. It's great that Reason has updated their gui to accommodate higher resolution!
@@johnpaulpatton9786 Out of curiosity, what plugins are giving you issues? Are you PC or Mac? I'm on Win10 and I've never had any issues with VST3 plugins at 4k because they auto scale according to Windows or can be resized with a mouse corner grab. The only plugin that has remotely given me any issues is running Kotakt 6 as a plugin inside Ableton Live 11. The GUI is just cropped off at the bottom which hides the piano roll when I hide the explorer side pane and display the instrument full pane. What scale factor are you running your Ableton instance as? I run mine at 80% via the preference menu just so I can fit more of the Arraignment view onscreen. I believe my Windows 10 scaling setting is 300% which is recommended for 4k displays by default.
Also...have you noticed that the Reason 12 Mix Channel no longer has a programmer section (Reason 11 does)? This means you can't automate inserts in Mix Channels. Any workaround?
lol ok nice video but hm i think you need a bigger space for your mouse? your mouse needs a mouse-pad im very sensitive to that noise i cant watch this im sorry :O
Just wondering re: Mimic. Could you not "rec' source and then simply create an audio track and record the edited slices? However if the loop that you have edited can't be automatically tempo synced to the clock or metronome then that becomes more of a challenge.
@@jefgibbons I think your idea of having those samples being able to be dropped into REX is vital, as is having that "drag to track " ability added via the track icon that is currently absent. Your review has me sold on upgrading from 10. Great job.
I tried. I really tried with Reason. 1.0 was a work of art compared to this convoluted cash-grab of a poorly designed DAW and awkward plugin. Long live Reason 5. That was the last stable version that did exactly what Reason was designed to do. Beautiful, streamlined MIDI. They’re going further and further down the rabbit hole here with flash sales right before they throat punch everyone with a pay to play model. It’s not about swimming in features, it’s about ARE YOU MAKING MUSIC? 🤦🏻♂️ I MISS THE OLD KANYE.
Ha! I hear you… every company has their barrage of updates/new instruments/new sounds… all designed to keep the cash flowing… then us youtubers have to show the newest stuff or no one cares!!! And that’s the truth… I’d love to blame the algorithm but I think it’s just human nature… 🤮 sorry. You got me on a rant! Back to making more videos and keeping that hamster wheel going… 😞
Stop! I like your videos but overstuffed combinators are no substitute for quality vst's. Also combinator patches load slowly and take time to audition. Remember the Reason 9 Combi sounds collection. Garbage I loved Reason but its so frustrating. Sequencer is so buggy and has limited zoom. Great Reason shirt though!
They should start these Reason 12 reviews by making it clear it is only available for ** Windows 10 ** I assumed as Reason 11 works on Windows 8, that this would too. It doesn't.
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I actually contributed some patches for Reason 12. Uptown Bass being one of them. Feels good seeing people enjoy them!
Uptown Base is Fire! Thanks for your Contribution! Keep up the Great work!
@@bobbiejohnson4607 Thanks! Hoping to do more.
That's great Quincy! What are a few of your other fave patches we should try out?
@@jefgibbons Hey sorry for the delay. Some favorites I made would be "Chordz Please!" (Malstrom) "Space Gate" (Thor) and "Strange Flute" (Thor). Of the Combinators ; "Rhode to Space", "Trap Chorale" and "Frozen Landscapes" are standouts to me.
This is honestly a beautifully decorated music studio...one of inspiration really...
Thank you so much for the Link to the article that has the Favourites folder for all new patches in R12!
Your studio is such a nice place to be.
You have definitely peaked my interest Jef . I am going to have to download the demo and give it a go . Thank you 😃
I started with reason 2.0 back in the boxed disc days. I can tell you first hand one huge deal with newer versions of reason, was finally being able to use 3rd party vsts instead of reason native. But reasons native vst is really all you need to make pro music. I am findimg myself go full circle from reason, to analog hardware world, to logic, to live, and back to version 12. Not only has my music gotten much better. But inspiration. I found the old tab workflow still works great. And being able to use all my vst in reason just makes sense and works seemless.
And keeping the creative flow out of hindrances is key. Reason is fabulous for inspiration. intergalactic by mix master mike/ B boys was made on reason. As well as the first Stromae.
Can't wait to get into it
Hello everyone and thanks to the developers for the new interface synthesizer and combinator features with great thanks.😇
gr8 presentation jeff, dope track in the intro!
Thanks Woody!
You picked out a really nice feature - the Mimic advanced stretch -- useful on playing a sample (that contains modulations) to allow more natural sounding chords around the keyboard. Great for those of us seeking a natural-ish sound. And the better graphics in Reason 12, with zooming in/out, are much valued for those of us 'more mature' tunesmiths. Nice review Jef
Thanks Rod! Yeah, I think the Mimic sampler is going to be great with a few more features…
Very thoughtful review.
Really fair appraisal, all the best :) x
Thanks Mic, tried to keep it real!
all the potential sequencer improvements that could be implemented , should be included as a free 12.5 update imo
Glad I saw this - I was temped to get 12 but there isn't enough 'new' to make it worthwhile - and I will NEVER go the subscription route.
I wish they would update the Recycle app and add it to the rack as an RE. Give it a dark theme, modernize it, and have an independent app and a RE. Would be stunning.
Love that idea!
@@jefgibbons They released a blog post today that talked about transparency and road map, and... Not in the cards.
It's a shame. Recycle was what made me originally pay attention to Propellerhead back in the day, and I always assumed they would create the most powerful sampling ecosystem ever. And then they didn''t.
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Some features of it are now in mimic
Awesome Review My Man. Thx.
Most welcome!!
So they finally put Recycle ♻️ in Reason,with Mimic sampler huh? A feature request from years ago, which was needed back in 2007. Good job 👍 just a bit behind.
Mimik doesnt read recycle files……..
As Chris said, it’s definitely not Recycle yet!! Has the potential, but it’s got a ways to go…
@@jefgibbons it comes later with one of the next updates, so Product Manager Matthias from Propellerheads…….
@@chris5375 Perfect, that's what I figured.
Not really. Try exporting your Mimic chop to Dr Rex
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the knowledge
LOL one year later and I'm still in shock that I paid for Reason eleven just before Reason twelve. Sometimes it hurts but I'm enjoying the software as best as I can.
As a Reason 11 owner, I appreciated the video Jeff. However I've already become disillusioned with the pace and direction of development and now only use Reason occasionally as a plug-in to Reaper. Like other users here, I don't see the value-add being sufficient to upgrade. More importantly, I needed VST3 about 6 years ago and badly wanted MPE about 3 years ago - the former is apparently possibly coming within the next year, but the latter is still not even mentioned as a potential. This means I have a bundle of VST3 effects that can't properly be used in Reason and I have hardware (e.g. Roli devices) with midi that can't properly be recorded or edited. If it were more reasonably priced I might go for Ableton or Bitwig, but for now Reaper is highly function, highly customisable, VST3-capable, MPE-compliant and excellent value.
Glad to hear Reaper is working for you, I’d love to check it out one day!
Bob, you have given voice to my feelings. I like reason but I never seem to reach for it. It is outclassed and outgunned by Logic's Alchemy, Spectrasonics Omnisphere/Keyscape/Trillian, Synapse Dune, Modartt Keyboard Modeling, and the Arturia V collection. For effects I have been using Universal Audio plug-ins having the good fortune of owning their hardware.
Being curious, have you tried Blue Cat's PatchWork allowing the use of VST3 plugins in any DAW?
I'm an 11 Studio user but I will not pay $129 for a sampler that doesn't do anything new, in my view. The Combinator 2 is interesting but not worth the price. I'll be happy with what I have. This is clearly a push for Reason+. I don't think this type of upgrade should be this pricey for a long-time user, such as myself. Throw us a bone Reason. Keep us as loyal users.
They’re raising the upgrade price to $199 on October 1st, and as someone who updated to Reason 12 already, imo there is no way in hell is it worth paying $199 to update to Reason 12. The new update might be 100% worth it for some, but it’s just not a big or even small game changer for me. I don’t like it any less than before the update, but I don’t really like it more than version 11 either.
@@nicolasstrawberry4148 agreed
@@nicolasstrawberry4148 I panicked and upgraded to 12 because of the price increase. Maybe that's their gameplan - coerce people into upgrading earlier than they perhaps would?
Having spent some time with v12, it's nice but I do feel a bit ripped off. I'm just hoping that future free updates can help me justify the upgrade and rid me of this buyer's remorse.
@@nicolasstrawberry4148 With the upgrade pricing, Reason Studios are trying there hand as comedians.
The upgrade pricing is absolutely meant to push old users out, and new ones over to the subscription model.
As an old user...bravo👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Reason Studios. Mission accomplished!👍🏾👌🏾
@@coldskoolbeatz well I’m definitely not interested in a subscription to use Reason and I kind of suspect at some point they will go 100% subscription and ppl won’t be able to buy it outright, and the way they treat those of us who did buy it outright, a lot of people including myself won’t spend anymore money on Reason. I rarely use it as a Daw, I use it as a plugin once in a while in Ableton. I bought the suite and an Able Push 2 which cost a lot more but I feel like it was a better investment than spending anymore money with Reason Studios.
Great video, thanks! At around 5:48 you mention you'd link to your video about the Scales & Chords player. Could you provide that link please?
Wow you have very dope studio! Subscribed on the first frame of the video. Just updated myself Reason 12 and looking for some tips on youtube now. :D
Nice! Lots of good stuff in there… thanks Dj Shroom!
Reason 11 Suite was a really good deal - and it can't be bought anymore, but is effectively replaced by the subscription package. And the Reason 12 upgrade pricing seems relatively steep. -- Similar to iZotope and Native Instruments, the investment fund companies now seem to be having the ultimate say in the business models of these (formerly?) great music software companies. I suspect that the grand old companies are being seriously impacted by the presence of so many new competent audio developers, spreading total customer spending across more companies - and making everyone's revenue squeezed. So now, I'm seeing many more companies trying to acquire new customers with ultra low prices to start and then keeping upgrade prices higher - while attempting to lure everyone into subscriptions. It will be interesting to observe over the next few years how that works out for them.
For sure. I’m not a fan of subscriptions at all, but it does make the entry barrier low for first timers. I also appreciate that you can cut out and join back up at any time. I just think if they were cheaper they’d get exponentially more people to sign up!
how about the guys at Image-Line huh?
they have managed to sustain and grow their company with a life-time free updates policy.
@@dawatcherz yes indeed - and Melda Production also have life-time free upgrades. Spectrasonics have occasional paid upgrades, but very long multi-year stretches of significant free upgrades.
I feel like your studio is what Reason's interface was based on
Metadata would be awesome 👍
Jef, I saw a video where someone loaded chords from Chords and Scales to Chord Sequencer---
focusing on 4 chords and inversions. Interesting way to build off S&C limitations.
Yes! There’s a lot of possibilities now…
The browser needs to be able to search through your refills too.
instant preview of sounds is a must. Komplete Control got it together.. copy them.. use proxy files for instant preview.. get it together Reason.
Hey! I've got an Omnibot too! The alarm clock function is a riot! It would run around the room to wake me up as a kid LOL!
Jeff! That’s amazing… you were one of the lucky ones… me and my brother would just lie awake at night dreaming of owning one!!!
I just got mine last year… it’s just the clock that works sadly!
@@jefgibbons Maybe we can get yours going again? It's a rechargeable battery that's in this guy and there are replacements available on the web.
All the programming is done on a cassette tape and it's best to use a 15 minute tape, nothing bigger.
@@jefgibbons How's all this for off topic on your post huh? LOL!
@@jrclarkbass Good tips! Definitely will do some digging ;)
A question about the Mimic Sampler. How can one, in the slice mode, record (route out) every single slot to its own dedicated/fixed midi track, so you stay witin just one instance of Mimic? if that is even possible? Or do you have to use multiple ones (copies) of it to achive that? Thanks for the answer.
I was thrown off at first as you have cubase opened on your screen. And it's hard to miss what is going on on that screen isn't it? ;)
Nice vid though
Peter Lazer
Can you please let me know what screen you are using. I love the size and resolution!
Scrolled comments to find this out as well.
Legitimate question, if we already use Maschine 2 with a Mk3/+ controller is Reason bringing anything new to the workflow? Judging by this video, I'm actually seeing a more hampered workflow versus chopping my samples in Maschine 2.
Hey Bronwyn, the Reason sampler doesn't bring much to the Maschine user in terms of sampling. One sweet feature on it is the ability to detect the pitch of a sample AND to tune it! That would be welcome in Maschine... There's a lot Reason needs to add to the sampler to get it to the Maschine level, but it has the potential for sure.
I can confirm, Reason 12 is not worth upgrading. There is no value within the upgrade for the money they are asking for.
Specially if people like myself have Presonus Studio ONE v5.4 and almost every major company synth & plugins in existence.
And since Propellerheads sent out a notice that the price for upgrades will go up to $199 from now on, looks like Reason 11 will be my very last upgrade & use of that DAW & Rack.
And I've been supporting propellerheads since Rebirth and Reason v1. ooh well, nice knowing them. Thank god for my Presonus Studio ONE v5.4
Nice video - such a disappointment that the very obvious issues with Mimic, that any new user to it would identify were never addressed. Apart from those mentioned you can't even programmatically switch active slots.
And keeping the creative flow out of hindrances is key. Reason is fabulous for inspiration. intergalactic by mix master mike/ B boys was made on reason. As well as the first Stromae.
Hi, I have a reason 10, how can I save midi, I don't know when I export a midi file, so everything sounds like a piano. Drums and bass in reason 10 hear a nice bass, drums but when I save it all the soundtrack so only the piano sounds please help thank you.
I agree with you on implementing a way to have mimic and octorex work interchangeably and that the sequence is way outdated. I would like to ad that they should make the mixer more intuitive with the new SSL software and that they should also add slice markers to mimic in tandem with slot options.
Great video. Looking to buy my first DAW and this could be it. Can I ask what monitor you're using?
Reason 12 is 🗑…. Lifelong user and this was the worst update. It’s not worth the $129 plus you still cannot use VST3 plug-ins in it ….
Before you export your song, how do you know your mix is 'good'?
just got some readers for my eyeballs. i upgraded reason myself. the new sampler doesnt seem to do anything significant i cant do myself
I've been a Reason user since version 1. When version 3 came out with the Combinator I was all over the forums asking for it to be upgraded to a bigger interface because the device had so much more potential. One of the main thing I kept asking for was a digital number display, similar to the waveform selector on the subtractor, so we'd have the ability to cycle through patterns or fx presets on the Combinator, fast forward to 17 odd years later and this weekend past, I finally upgraded from Suite 11 to 12, because it was half price for £100. Disappointed is not the word. STILL NO DIGITAL SELECTOR, the most obvious feature you'd ever want for a Combinator and they've still not made it happen, while its awesome you can add extra knobs and buttons, that's all you can add, and with all the variations, they still all just do the same thing so its near pointless having so many options to perform the same task. Add to that that when you upgrade to Reason 12, despite it being touted as having 29,000 new sounds in the sound bank, thid is in fact false advertising, there are litreally no new sounds at all, bar about 20 presets in the mimic sampler. New sounds are for Reason + subscribers only it would seem. Absolute bullshit. Safe to say if I'd bought Reason 12 when the half price offer wasn't on, I'd be seeking a refund immediately. I paid £100 and I feel like I've been robbed. Worst upgrade ever ! Was really looking forward to a new combinator too but that's just nowwhere near good enough ! Last time I give them my money. Pro Tools here I come.
i agree about metadata hashtags for moods
do you know how to use nectar 3 with reason 12? if so can you pleeeeeaaaasssseee do a tutorial?
Thanks for the video. This may seem like a stupid question but were do I see the midi input in Reason 12? In Logic, when I press C3 on my midi keyboad, I see it indicated in the Logic transport.
My software love my music making program
Lol mimic is not ready
But the ability to create UI’s for combinator is pretty cool.
I’ll wait on upgrading to 12 until they provide better functionality to mimic.
This guy looks like Bob Saget if he were a music producer.
I doubt rex and/or midi export from Mimic is coming. Mimic is coded using the RE SDK which doesn't support this. Dr.Rex code is integrated into/part of Reason itself (not sandboxed) as it was not made as a Rack Extension.
Ahh man, that's good info, but a shame. Maybe they'll figure out a way around this?
Useful to know, but such a poor excuse for Reason to not simply reuse the code, copy it into a new library or the RE SDK, that would be so easy. Maybe they are saving it for R13, though that would suck.
Hello. Can you please provide a link to the desk you use? Thank you for the video.
It’s just a slab of Acacia wood with legs from the local hardware store!
If you use any of the Reason racks within another daw which one do you prefer to use? Live, Logic, Pro Tools or something else?
Does Reason 12 at least give you the new instruments that were in 11 suite?
Well I am still on Reason 10. When cash was available to me I bought Ableton 11. The sound I get from Ableton is richer than what I get from Reason, maybe due to the type of algorithm that they use. Ableton...to me offers more 'bang' for the buck, though there are still somethings missing that Reason have that Ableton doesn't have like being able to correctly align the pitch in a vocal. Still Ableton's sampling ability surpasses Reason by far where unlocking Creativity is concerned.
You can’t drop the midi track ( sent to midi ) from scales and chords into Cubase anymore……
Wait... remind me Chris... we WERE able to do that briefly right? That's really strange... and essential!
@@jefgibbons in Reason does it work, you build a chord Progression in Scale and Chords and then you are push the button on the right : sent to midi, and now you have the midi data in the sequencer in Reason, but I think the reason rack doesn’t have this function, I have tried it out in Ableton and reason rack….., in dr octo Rex you have a small note sign in the upper left of the device to copy the midi data in your sequencer track…..
@@chris5375 Yeah, we need that for sure in the Chords player!
Mimic drag in the midi file a Rex is NOT coming. Because Mimic was built with the Reason SDK and it doesn't support REX. Dr Octorex is a native unit, not SDK. If they redesign the SDK they could add it but that would be a looooong ways out.
Shoot… thanks for the info!
You can work inside of Cubase like a VST....or Rewire?
Just like a vst since the reason rack plug-in that came in version 11!
I love that Reason shirt. Is it a sweater or shirt? Hpw can I get one?
It’s home made!
I'd love it if I could put VSTs in the rack when Reason itself was in the rack, but they said that wasn't even on the road map. Unfortunately, I think they are pricing too high and delivering too little for what they charge.
The video is great of course, I'm just a bit disappointed in the company.
Thanks Andy! Yeah, imagine being able to combine other synths in the combinator in the rack… that would be huge!!
but is it worth it coming from reason 9.5?
bro, is that a classic Atari or Apple in the back i see? my back up guess is Commodore Amiga
The first Mac!!
When I hear both "FREE" & "Reason +"...
...And, I think of how it's like a new TV show added to Showtime or HBO, and someone nevvvvvver calls it "Free". LOL ;-)
Just switch back to pitch mode if you want to listen to one of the multi pitch parts in solo.
I’ll try it, thanks for the tip!
As a long term professional in the PC industry, the biggest problem I have with the new release is actually the graphics fix. Reason was released in 2000. Vector graphics were a well understood and in place alternative at that time. So the fact is that Reason's development team in effect "cheaped out" in going with bitmapped graphics. Then, continued to turn a blind eye to this reality for almost 20 years, as the cost and time of the - arguably inevitable - fix grew.
So, my issue is, I shouldn't have to pay for their original and continued misjudgment made in developing the product. So the dearth of features outside of this fix in the new release are what is leading me to sit this one out.
Good comments B, worth sending to RS for feedback as well.
@@jefgibbons Well, might have been, 10 years ago,,,, but all is done now. Hopefully the next release has more MEAT...
Bit map grafics where the norm in 2000s with alot of games and device like win amp where is similar style grafics.
What was that link to that forum post with the favorites of the new in Reason 12 patches?
Sorry Jake, I just added it to the description!
@@jefgibbons you are the man! I was hunting to see new patches as well...you made life a lot easier for me!
I watched your Native Instrument video and started to update from Komplete 11 to 13. Then I got an email on Reasons 12 for 50%off for the annual. What is your recommendation?
Man that’s a tough call! What go you see yourself using most? You probably can imagine one of them fitting your workflow best, unless you’ve never used Reason… if not, download the demo right away and explore! They both are fantastic really, and the subscription is great for someone who hasn’t paid in the past, not so much for those of us that have already paid loads over the years!
@@jefgibbons I have 11 in both KOMPLETE and Reasons. I usually try to update every two years. What sparked my interest are the new devices in reason so I’ll try it out. Then make my decision.
Can mimic be used in Reason 11?
If you had to get rid of all of your tools except one which would you keep?
Maschine MK3! I can’t express how much I love the integration…
I really enjoyed your take here. But I wanted to raise a point on what you said about moving loops from mimic to Dr octorex. If you wanted to move a loop into Dr octorex, why would you need to do it from mimic. It's effortless to make a rex loop out of an audio file and no changes you make to a loop in mimic would be carried over anyway to octorex anyway. It just seemed like a mute point to me, great video otherwise though.
Thanks Stuart, it’s just that everything would be self contained and wouldn’t require buying Recycle, but you’re right, not much difference to just do it in Recycle!
Since you are using a TV as a monitor, do you have issues with the resolution of plugins in Ableton?
Hi John, not at all, Ableton scales nicely and I'm not running at 4K so things aren't too tiny!
I've been using a 70" 4K display in my home studio for the past 2 years and for my aging eye site is an absolute Godsend.
@@jefgibbons Thanks. I am running 4k and I have issues in Ableton with plugins either being stretched or tiny. So, I'm trying to find a solution. I'll probably connect a regular monitor and use that for plugins. In Studio One, I have no problems at all. It's great that Reason has updated their gui to accommodate higher resolution!
@@johnpaulpatton9786 Out of curiosity, what plugins are giving you issues? Are you PC or Mac? I'm on Win10 and I've never had any issues with VST3 plugins at 4k because they auto scale according to Windows or can be resized with a mouse corner grab. The only plugin that has remotely given me any issues is running Kotakt 6 as a plugin inside Ableton Live 11. The GUI is just cropped off at the bottom which hides the piano roll when I hide the explorer side pane and display the instrument full pane. What scale factor are you running your Ableton instance as? I run mine at 80% via the preference menu just so I can fit more of the Arraignment view onscreen. I believe my Windows 10 scaling setting is 300% which is recommended for 4k displays by default.
where did u get the reason shirt
Homemade! My kid got a Cricut…
Second watch!
People got plenty of Reason to complain with their new business model. I gave up on Reason a couple generations ago.
Also...have you noticed that the Reason 12 Mix Channel no longer has a programmer section (Reason 11 does)? This means you can't automate inserts in Mix Channels. Any workaround?
lol ok nice video but hm i think you need a bigger space for your mouse? your mouse needs a mouse-pad im very sensitive to that noise i cant watch this im sorry :O
Wow! First time I’ve heard that… no I won’t be able to unhear it… I’ll look into it ;)
Just wondering re: Mimic. Could you not "rec' source and then simply create an audio track and record the edited slices? However if the loop that you have edited can't be automatically tempo synced to the clock or metronome then that becomes more of a challenge.
You could for sure! I just want to be able to drag the slices down to a track for manipulating…
@@jefgibbons I think your idea of having those samples being able to be dropped into REX is vital, as is having that "drag to track " ability added via the track icon that is currently absent. Your review has me sold on upgrading from 10. Great job.
Reason 12 video start with Cubase.) Funny..
I tried. I really tried with Reason. 1.0 was a work of art compared to this convoluted cash-grab of a poorly designed DAW and awkward plugin. Long live Reason 5. That was the last stable version that did exactly what Reason was designed to do. Beautiful, streamlined MIDI. They’re going further and further down the rabbit hole here with flash sales right before they throat punch everyone with a pay to play model. It’s not about swimming in features, it’s about ARE YOU MAKING MUSIC? 🤦🏻♂️ I MISS THE OLD KANYE.
Ha! I hear you… every company has their barrage of updates/new instruments/new sounds… all designed to keep the cash flowing… then us youtubers have to show the newest stuff or no one cares!!! And that’s the truth… I’d love to blame the algorithm but I think it’s just human nature… 🤮 sorry. You got me on a rant! Back to making more videos and keeping that hamster wheel going… 😞
$129 for the upgrade, not on your life.
It is too high… I agree!
Stop! I like your videos but overstuffed combinators are no substitute for quality vst's.
Also combinator patches load slowly and take time to audition. Remember the Reason 9
Combi sounds collection. Garbage I loved Reason but its so frustrating. Sequencer is
so buggy and has limited zoom. Great Reason shirt though!
I hear your frustrations! But I do think the new Combi is sweet, we just need a tag based browser so we can find patches!
Good video. Lame update. Reason 11 is good enough for me.
Thanks James!
over priced like other better for far less
They should start these Reason 12 reviews by making it clear it is only available for ** Windows 10 **
I assumed as Reason 11 works on Windows 8, that this would too. It doesn't.
Thanks Chris!