Reason 13: Browser and New Workflow Features
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Release date: June 18th 2024
Reason 13 introduces a whole new Browser to make finding, auditioning, and creating sounds fast and getting you access to sounds you didn't even know you loved yet. In this walkthrough, Ryan will get you up to speed on the new Browser's workflow as well as the new features in Reason's sequencer.
LOVE U GUYS! R13 is a huge step forward! R+ user here.
Reason 13 looks all really great, but the getting rid of the "Favorites Lists" in the Device Browser section is a workflow killer 😥, I loved that feature, it was so handy having your plugins in Favorites Lists containing all your most used (favorite) EQ's, Compressors, Distortion, Sautration, Tape, Channel Strips, etc. I WISH you guys would bring Favorites Lists back to the Device Browser section while still having the addition of the new browser for patches and audio files. Just my sad wish for Reason 13 😥
😮Oh no, I didn’t realize they moved it or got rid of it. No, no no.😢😢😢
If it doesn’t come back in a point update I’m going to eat my hat. It’s lucky that my hat is so deliciously tempting
@@bomubomuboi Maybe you should eat it anyway
That's really stupid I got too many plugins to start browsing each time..
Yes I agree
Thank you .This looks like a good upgrade . Just an idea .What if there was a second loop button .The second loop button had a flexible start and end marker that would only work when the second loop button was turned on . This being a different colour and distinct to the main marker .Say the user wants to edit their track between measures 7 and 11 . That the second loop button would loop between these measure points . .
↓2. Tool window has been removed only to take up way more screen space now
↓3.. Everything about sample edit mode was already neatly tucked in the upper toolbar, now it takes up more space
Agree
Exactly what i thought too.
No Scale features in the pianoroll, how could Reasonstudios miss on that highly requested point?
I’m really so happy to see these improvements in R13 guys. Super exciteddddd for next week. Gogogogo
I never heard one person ever complain about the old briwser (but everyone wanted sequencer improvements), So why the change?……… I hate it. It’s slower, all my favourite lists of how I organized my plugins gone, Feeding me old ass subtractor and malstorm patches I never want to be recommended, clicking new instrument doesn’t take me to my device lists but a list of random patches….. this is a ui disaster
Exactly 👏
True
I don’t regret migrating to Bitwig, Bitwig is more Reason than Reason
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Facts!
The workflow updates are very welcome, but if you are an existing user and don't want or need another synth, delay unit or the utility devices then £200 is an excessive cost for the upgrade. It would be good if there was even very basic clip launcher / marker functionality so you can play different sections of a song on the fly to get spontaneous ideas for song layout before laying out your arrangement. This could so easily be achieved by the existing block functionality allowing different blocks to be triggered by keyboard shortcuts.
Can you zoom the rack independently from the rest now, or are still stuck in either "rack is too small, seq is ok" or "rack is ok, seq is too big" modes?😮
It looks cool. What was missing! I will save up money to buy this! After many years I want to return to music production in this program!
Reason come back typing when you write music 😅 Nice, always typing the name of device, instead of just drag and drop from my favorit folder. Applause!!!
Ghost scales in the midi sequencer lanes world be dope. Especially if we could import our own scales.
what about blocks? Will that be in Reason 13?
Can you can choose your drive to install in Windows (re's and soundpacks included)
As it always automatically installs to c drive without option, and for whatever reason my c drive is really small compared to my d drive on my laptop.
man this great for sure so am back on Reason 13 so what lest is Grouping tracks
Can I still toggle play start to start at chosen position? or is that a different shortcut?
improved DSP?
Great changes. I do feel very conflicted about the blocking of older perpetual licenses though. Please be better than the Avids in this world.
The split view on the sequencer is a game changer though. It kept me from editing in Reason in the past.
I love it
Stoked for this! I know this isn't related but can we get a video for editing guitars in reason? Or does anyone have a video they can link? I'm curious how in depth audio editing can go in Reason. Cheers!
Is there a Ctrl/Cmd + P shortcut to add player to currently selected device? I don't think I've seen it?
Dinkin Flicka!!!!! This is amazing!
Wooohoooo!!!
How does this new filter function work with patches people have collected over many years that aren't "tagged"? (Auto tagging using AI anyone?... hehe)
edit: You talked about it a bit further in... sadly no automatic tagging though :P
To HASHTAG all old stuff in Reason...is work alone 😮
Follow song toggle is probably the best feature.
That exists already. Just press F. In fact, nothing is new on this update, with the exception of tags for sounds. Everything else exists already. They just changed places.
Reason, Please add NOTE CHASE
So you removed the F8 window to get it all in front of you (finally something good) but the browser is now a floating window again? Why?? It was good were it was, just like Ableton or Fl Studio. That floating window is horrible.
Damn, RS, WTF!!
Can we tag VST devices? VST patches? For example, I'd like all my EQ's to pick from rather than just the RE's that are assigned by someone else.
Great question
Not currently, this is important to me too
For me personally and I think for others too, the changes implemented are more akin to a downgrade to the workflow. You guys changed exactly the things that didn't need any change and failed to implement long overdue functionalities.
Totally agree
disagree on some, agree on others. The browser tagging is almost a decade overdue. the sequencer editing workflow is huge. Hated the separate pop-up window for midi adjustment. Sure, ill need to redo my favs, but this new way is much improved. Searching and preview seems much faster. What exactly is bad so far?
@@pnutbuttajellee1394 Just one example: I want to be able to edit some midi clips parameters without opening the piano roll. It's incredibly important for a quick workflow when arranging. Until now it could be done with the tool window you hate. Now what?
It has increased my workflow now that I have to do ten steps to get to all of my sample packs!!!!!
@@glennfrederick8521 😂
Whoo, this is goofy. "What do we have for the sequencer update, people?" "We have tags, sir." "You mean for the browser that we touted as a major selling point just 2 versions ago?" "Yes." "Okay, what else?" "That's it." "That's it!?... Okay, listen up.. just take a handful of things that people are already perfectly comfortable with and change where they're located on onscreen and how they're accessed. I don't care which ones; just make them look different." "You got it, boss!"
Don’t forget the side chain utility 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 BIG news
You got rid of the 'Favourites' bit? Why on earth would you do that and force me to use this new system. At this point I am only using Reason 13 for the step sequencer by a 3rd party.
Good workflow changes here. Looking forward to rediscovering some old patches I’d forgotten.
↓4. Browser feels very RRP oriented. Until now it was very easy to drag and drop samples on the same track, one after the other. Now that workflow has become cumbersome.
Why, you don't like menu diving?
@@B1SCOOP Yeah, I don't wanna make a big SPLASH SCREEN out of it.
Agree
It’s horrible
From the comments, it seems everybody is impressed with this update except me. And $200 for an update in 2024 is WILD. Especially one with so few new features.
I'm not sure everyone is gonna love this new browser once they get there hands on it. Plus, I really, really hope they didn't get rid of the favorites section for devices because that's what it looks like to me.
"I really, really hope they didn't get rid of the favorites section for devices".
Unfortunately they are gone...
The favorite section is still there. It's just on the browser.
@@chocomalk Not for devices and no thumbnails so i have to remember every name/vendor of the plugin which is a huge step back to my workflow when you are used to search visually and not by the name of the plugin.
@@chocomalk It's on the browser? So there's 2 browsers now?
@@coldskoolbeatz THere is an active list on the side for devices and a loadable browser with all the favorite sections on the sidebar.
Please bring the old browser back, it so much quicker, the new one is such a time vampire, the vst version of reason has also now become so time consuming i am just going to use reason 12, sad guys, it a real let down. 😞new reason browser = work flow blocker, old one is so much better especially for the vst version.
That floating browser is a BIG no for me! And destroying the old browser by removing the option to make folder so you can arrange your favorite devices.
So no upgrade for me before they have fix this.
I understand your POV from an OCD perspective but logically speaking, you’re not looking for sounds or patches all the time. You look, you find, you pick, and after that it doesn’t need to take up any real estate on your screen any more. I might not be as versed in Studio One functionality as you are but I’m not sure their browser was the first thing that grabbed me.
@@titovalasques They have destroyed the browser so that when i want to find my favorite plugins/Re (i search visually and not by what the plugin is called).
But now they have destroyed the old browser, i have to scroll through ALL my fx/instruments instead of being able to click on a folder where i have organized my favorite instruments/FX that i use often like for example "Delay" "Compressor " "EQ" "Utility" "Glitch" and such.
@@titovalasques Why did you delete my comment @ReasonStudios ?
@@MarcSwing Is this directed at me or at Reason Studios?? 😳
@@titovalasques It was directed at Reason Studio, i answered you why i think they ruined the old browser but apparently they didn't like it and deleted my comment...🤷♂
I must thank you for finally improving the workflow and the sequencer itself. I must admit that it was becoming a real drag for me in recent years since there were no improvements in this section. Hope that from now on you'll continue to give attention to this kind of stuff as much as for the upcoming new devices. One of the best updates so far..
It's a start but considering how far behind it still is in this respect I
don't think they've done enough sadly
@@jameschick3928 They never needed to do anything, and no other daw has never ever been able to replicate Reasons functionality, and they've had 20 years to try. Different doesnt mean behind.
Please tell me in what way the sequencer has been improved. I'd really like to know
Yeah its a great update! I hope they include the gain tool functionality in the SSL mixer in one of the minor updates too
@@jameschick3928 Users like the OP will happily pay $200
..I repeat $200 ..for a deficient "update" that provides just enough resources and motivation to Reason Studios who intentionally keep development at a sluggish pace.
Those users will turn around and say, "if you don't like it, use something else" to those who expect more.🤷🏾
And every year this saga continues.
All this is nice but it did not warrant a paid upgrade. What have Reason Studios been doing these years?
Is it possible to create our own unique tags? Like if I want to tag something with a tag that isn’t already there-like say, “Owl City-esque” or something 🤔
Phew! A lot to get through in one video. I think a Reason 13 updated shortcut "cheatsheet" may be order 😊
A snap to scale and highlight scale option in the MIDI editor would be great!
Yeah, I use that in Cubase all the time, snap to scale, and/or snap to chord.
another shameless update which should have been free hope you noticed how your user numbers are dwindling more and more especialy from the old pros
why is your browser so fast??? my browser is super slow... how i can make him faster???
long time reason user... very much underwhelmed.
the sequencer update is LONG OVERDUE. &, as some reviewers have pointed out, it's still WAY UNDERCOOKED.
I have been an avid user of reason since version 2.0. I love it!! so much so that the clip-based workflow of bitwig & ableton are totally foreign to me, still to this day. but learning one of those--preferably bitwig--is also very curious & interesting to me. I think the underwhelming & downright questionable value of this $200 upgrade may just be the push I need...
#reasonstudios How is getting rid of the fav list and thumbnails for external devices an improvement on workflow?
This is one step forward, two steps back kind of thinking. The browser is nice I guess, but it's essentially just, "we have keywords now yay"! But if we forget the name of the FX or device we had in a list of visual cues it does no good at all.
If I have nothing nice to say I don’t say anything at all - since watching this video though I have been compelled to break that rule.
I’ve used Reason since version 2 so it actually makes me really sad to be negative about something I’ve stood by for such a long time.
I don’t really understand what Reason has come to in these last few updates - charging top dollar and labelling things as updates - that… let’s be honest should have been free changes just to get Reason back on a level playing field with other DAW’s.
I paid to upgrade to HD.
Now you want to charge long standing and loyal customers for (amongst other less than impressive things) updating the browser and adding a sideschain utility 😂
£199 aswell 😂😂😂😂 my god
All I needed was a bigger screen for editing audio clips and I got way more than that... Totally on board for this upgrade
PLEASE let us use the sequencer when using Reason as a plugin!
Edit: what would be especially cool, is if every instance of the reason plugin within a project was aware of the others and were all available within the sequencer (that is aware of and reflects the global song position of the DAW you are working in). Then, by default each instance of the plugin within a session would be in it's own "group" and assigned to one channel within the Reason plugin. This way, you could use Reason just like you would with Rewire in the old days. Furthermore, you could use modulation across the various Reason plugin instances within a project.
Just like FL Studio and NI Maschine... yes totally agree!
I really wonder how many users they lost because of that change. I've been using Reason together with Live for most of the past decade through ReWire (started on Reason 4 & Live 8), but after having lost access to the sequencer & ReWire. Well... I stick with Reason 11's RRP and eventually jumped ship to FL Studio.
We have no idea hownto update workflow and add new features.. hmm.. I know! Lets update browser lol
Sometimes you don't know what you want to start looking for when starting a song and have a sound library of 10s of thousands of sounds. A random button would be cool to add amongst the tagging options.
can you guys make a update on you VST host in reason,
make more like the combi 2 and give us a VST cv out support too
if possible
I guess this won’t ever happen
@@micromando4669 sad face.
well i Gussie i stay with bitwing till then
at least they don't need to have to use a VST host to use the vst natively.
and the new combi its cool at all bits in bitwing i really don't have any limits crap even waveform 12 who by the way its complete free now.
not only do they have a combi who has no limits
but if you want you can put multiple combis in 1 contra file a.k.a a combi in a combi
i love the new reason combi 2 and i love that my limits it's up to 34 buttons at best
and yes, i can use the mix channel as a form of a contemner a.k.a a combi inside a combi but shout be nice to have at least an export button
because option 2 it's just to open my two reason files and just copy past the mix channel with the EFX .
just given some advice to have a limit break
@@micromando4669 i take it back on waveform 12 , 13 there not really free
but still, they have less issues than reason
I am back using reason. I have been getting some fantastic results. Reason forever.
The improved zoom is a GAMECHANGER! The browser is awesome too! Best update yet.
Huge! I have been learning other DAW in big part because of this being lacking. Overjoyed that reason has this now. I just added a large touchscreen for the rig so hoping it will work with that.
Unacceptable it took this long
Disappointing that there are still no collapsible folders in the sequencer view
Same here, all highly requested features are simply ignored as always. Collapsing to folders also in the ssl, scale/key features in the pianoroll, thumbnails for custom combinators, vst cv out, vst players, own shortcuts, mseg, more advanced automation drawing abilities like synchronous has. Etc. But hey, you don’t need to press F8 anymore 🤡
this is a downgrade. I've got my VSTs in folders such as delay, reverb etc. Now it will take me longer to find what I want without the useful thumbnail.
How can you guys call this the new numbered Reason update with a straight face? There’s literally nothing new here, except for tagging of sounds and a a ramp. It’s just all old stuff but on a different place. No new midi and audio features (except for ramp), which reason needs desperately, with everything looking and feeling completely archaic in 2024. How can you be aware of your competItion and still charge 200 for this? It’s absurd!
The impression this gives me is that you guys are extremely lazy and just don’t give a damn, resting on the very amateur market, while you have fun just developing synths and devices, without actually improving the product for current times.
Highly disappointing.
I'm one of the biggest advocate for Reason going. Been a solid user since 2.5. I'm sad to say this is the first update I'm not going to purchase. Just feels like it should be an update to 12 rather than the next version.
Looking forward to the new workflow improvements. I am sure they will inspire!
And yet all these "updates" have been default in other DAWs like FL, Ableton or even Studio One for years... I love Reason's rack and devices, but the DAW still needs a lot of serious improvements before it reaches the industry's today standards.
As a good Windows user, I usually need to format my PC every 3/4 years due to random problems that break the boot or interface. Where are these new tags stored on the hard drive? If it's in the system's default folders, can't I put this information on a hard drive that doesn't have a direct connection to the system's hard drive? //
I don't know if it's possible, but having the piano row panel appearing on the side could also be a good deal, some work with ultra wide monitors, and it would be a smarter use of the function in these cases.
how the hell do i open my reason 12 files? I can't contact support, you all made it impossible. I CANT OPEN ANY OF MY REASON 12 FILES IN REASON 13!!!!!!!!! SHUT SUCKS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I love Reason, been using it since reason 4, sadly the new browser has killed my workflow, sticky, slow, laborious. the plugin version is even worse, cubase doesn,t close down, takes about 2 minutes to get to each sound, had to deinstall reason 13, thought the update would make it better but nope, £200 for the slowest and biggest buzz kill so far, all the new tools and echo amazing but sadly the browser is massive let down for me, if its not broke don,t fix it and you guys just absolutely destroyed it. Gutted.
We want the browser to be paired with the other soundbank and custom preset folder . Please, long time reason user here, been buying your suite product and a lot more.
Please , why dont you just have release a free update for the sequencer that was outdated and give people the choice of wich browser they want, attach or detach. I'ts still the same software. Please , don't fall in the greedy way of doing thing.
I don’t know about you guys but I do not like the new work flow! It is so much slower than before.. I really tried to give it a chance thinking it’s just me not being used to it but, the more I dive into it the slower my workflow is now! I really hate the sequencer function now.. it doesn’t slide when in edit mode. Plus, I added all my samples to the short cut and if you leave a project open for several days and come back to it the short cuts do not work. You have to close the program and go back into it in order for them to regenerate.. maybe, that’s a bug.. I wish they would spend more time doing really bad as functions inside the DAW instead of putting lipstick on a PIG!!!
So, I have to pay 199 to upgrade to reason 13 from reason 12? That's greedy. I won't upgrade. Imagine Logic costs only $199.
Combinator 2 update please
To do what?
@@titovalasques siblings
@@titovalasques add stepped switches, crossfader, grouping buttons… just to name a few
Why can’t I drag that new browser to a 2nd screen? Why is it locked in front of the rack? It’s clunky! Why can’t I detach the F9 browser?
Why make the browser a locked window that can't be moved to another monitor like the others? If there's a way to change this or have it back to the old style, I can't find it. Just give us the option to have it where it always was. This thing doesn't even merge with the left panel anymore. It's frustrating and unnecessary.
No wonder yall offer the update for free to those that upgrade to 12 , it has nothing of real value yet yall charging 200$ for the upgrade when it could have been just an update to 12 . I love reason and have used it fully since 2.0 , but yall business model sucks , count yall days .
It was actually easier in Reason 12 to get all my samples bc they are all in a sample folder that has over 150 different sample packs.. It would take a life time to add them all bc the entire folder will not save to my shortcuts. Before you could easily slide the sequencer bar over and they would be right there to access and hear with the play button! If I am missing something please let me know!
I would like straightforfard groove and scale choices as ableton has
And new zoom tool near the timeline awful, always zooming now when i put timeline to start of loop or midi. You need very carefully work with timeline now. OMG it is the downgrade for me
I wasn't interested in 12, I'm not interested in 13 either.
Reason 11 suite and my library of samples is all I need for now
**Can you re-size the piano roll to full screen, or are you now limited to split screen view??**
Yup, you can resize it so it takes up the full sequencer viewer, or make it smaller. Up to you
@@deeplink_audio How is it possible to manage the tracks in full height edit mode window ? You can't do that anymore, because the left side originally dedicated for tracks management is discarded...this is very bad UI/UX decision which ruins the workflow. In order to select the track, mute, solo, etc. you have to change the height of the edit window EVERYTIME to get the access to track management on the left side.
@@dusansynth I agree with you. If there are no keyboard shortcuts for solo/mute, this creates certain inconveniences.
@dusansynth Sure. Fortunately for me, I simply can't just jump up and down a track - as musical parts are in different places in the arrangement. So even with a full screen edit window, I would still have to (previously) exit to the arrangement view, find my bearings and then enter edit mode again.
Also personally, I seldom work with an instrument that is covering more than 3 octaves at a given time.
That bass isn't "fat", it's just big boned.
Hahahaha!
It's an ozempic bass
it has matured enormously, congratulations, now the daw is beautiful and perfect, what a wonderful upgrade, now I put it as my main daw
I just really hope they have improved vst compatibility so I can actually just drag samples into vst samplers like amigo from within reason rather than using that terrible default file browser that you cannot pre-audition sounds from.
wow, just thought "I wonder what's going on with Reason lately" and this video is 16 mins old!
Looks good :)
These are awesome. I'd love to see something like Bitwig Operators and MPE support and then we are golden.
Still waiting to be able to sync the mute indicators between the mixer and the tracks, please make them sync.
I am an "in-the-box" jingle producer who uses the R+ system in its entirety; no third-party plugins. The Ripley effects plugin is of particular interest; it's clear you've carefully considered the needs of sound designers with its feature set. The sidechain and gain tools are also very welcome. Alongside your updated browser system and sequencer improvements, I suspect my workflow will be at least 20 percent faster. Knowing Reason listens to its dedicated users, I would like to see, in the future, a one-stop mastering plugin (meter / limiter / clipper / eq / saturator) and track stacking. However, I am perfectly happy with Reason+ as it is. Lastly, I've noticed you've said/shown nothing about the SSL mixer, which my favorite part of the DAW. Any surprises regarding this? Looking forward to the update :)
Making music is fun again! Shoutout to Reason Studios!
I was happy to lose a floating window (F8) but that one was replaced by another (the new browser)
It wastes my time more than anything else, I find it not very fun to use, the old browser with tags would have been more pleasant and faster to use in the workflow.
I have no choice I would have to use it, but it will be reluctantly, especially since I can no longer put Rack or VST as favorites
some good changes here. but still no support for scales in the piano roll?
When Reason 8 came out it was all about a faster workflow buy getting rid of the floating browser. I am interested in trying it out though. I just worry because I find Reason can get very cluttered with large projects, which is why track folders and track freeze is such a popular request.
did you finally add vst support into the reason rack extension, guessing no. The "improvements" to the sequencer are a joke. All you did was add quick keys and split the views. Its still a clumsy janky update not worth a full number update. The fancy browser has been as usual in other daw's for years now. Still the same crappy envelopes and automations. Typical out dated slow updated and not fixing the actual issues with the software. For those who like this great. I do hope it allows you to make great music. For me not so much of an upgrade and way to pricey.
Right on mate - they are having themselves and everybody on about what a DAW version update is
Soo. First I save the patch, then I go to the new browser and choose edit and assign tags.. right, I don't see myself doing that much. Why isn't this done in the save dialog instead of a multi step operation?
I just want the sidebar browser with my favorite folders for devices and patches. Just finding the tags you want in a 2d list is a drag. I want the new sequencer updates, but I'm not sure I'm willing to let go of the old browser.
i have a subscription so no update fee for me besides the monthly payment. But after making a couple of tracks in R13 I've decided to roll back to v12. I thought the new browser was growing on me, but in real work I really dislike it. Locked to its parent window it's a nightmare for us who like to work with detached windows. It's like working with a straitjacket. Nightmare! And tags? Who cares about tags? I don't need to filter on Fat, Glassy, Glitchy.. It's just a gimmick! And I will never add tags to my own patches so pointless really. I put them in a fitting folder. I'm not into doing library work when making music. It was waaay better to have it docked. This is backwards. Everybody has realized a browser is best docked, then you go and detach it 😞
I love the sequencer updates, albeit it's very few of them, but not more than I dislike the browser. So I'm going back to 12. Will update when the browser is dockable again, with favorites.
Please, please, please, let us automate volume in decibels!
Very cool but a bit worried about the samples and fav list being disappeared from the side. I'm sure I'll get used to it but the muscle memory is kinda gone
Sigh
This is what Everyone was waiting for so questions & concerns could be answered...
Ive been using reason for 14 years. I love reason for creating, the colors n design make it the funnest to look at out of all the daws. When it comes to editing tho and workflow it’s definitely behind. (Ableton being the example) I firmly believe if reason fixes this issue then it’ll be the top daw
The DAW workflow improvements look fantastic!
Unfortunally it not any better. It still freezes or take an insane amount of time to browse anything.
to bad that the upgrade price has almost doubled.
I was a happy Reason user 20ish years ago. Strongly considering coming back. I like that you are treading between ui modernization and keeping the core features that made it special product. One gripe is that REX files seem like an outdated approach.
I wouldn't call it outdated. Good for drums. Only now surpassed by the new Cubase special mode that just got released as v13.
RYAN RULES!
Is Tagging only good per install? Where does it store tagging information?
I am so excited about Reason 13.
What I need to know Is will this brand new spanking shiny version of reason
Support My Akai MPC One +?
12 didn't in full. I would love to seamlessly enjoy using my newly bought MPC one + with my most favorite and Loved DAW.
I Will forever fall in love with reasons
Instruments and Stackable content.
Can I tag the devices like "top devices"? I'm dyslexic and I can rarely remember the names of devices. I use my device folders ALL the time. I have possibly near 1000 plugins and without being able to at least tag my devices I will sit and stare at the device list each time I try to recall the device name. I use looperator all the time and forget its name every day.