@@MilindSabarad quality issues, cost, some don’t like how high they sit and don’t buy after they get in and get out a few times. There’s a host a reasons the bronco is essentially an off road sports car. An unreliable one. Plus resale value isn’t there.
2024 4Runner has no turbo, no fancy instrument panel, and is MADE IN JAPAN (Tahara plant). Those are the main reasons why I'm buying one while they are still available. I plan on keeping it for a long time. Thanks for posting this video.
I’ve owned Corollas, Land Cruisers, and 4Runners. I still own a 4Runner 3rd gen & 80 series Land Cruiser. I have to say the 4Runner is the most practical & reliable vehicle. Cost of maintenance is also low
having had a 4th gen 4runner and a 100 series myself, I agree with you totally, 4runners are the lowest maintenance 4x4 you can run. practical enough to run long distances, and park in the lot.
The 2024 4runner is a dinosour but its the most reliable well put together mid sized SUV made and being 100 percent made in JAPAN thats what mkes it a great classic to purchase, that will be gone soon
Ofc the 4Runner is a dinosaur....but here's the thing....reliability was the old school Toyota. Sure, you can wait for all the whiz bang technical updates and overall design in the 25 4Runner, but at the cost of the turbo injected 4cyl engines that have really started out with a "bang"---and that wasn't a compliment. I bought the 24 Camry v6 just because I wanted a naturally aspirated engine above 4cyl.....I'm ok with hybrid....without a turbo injected engine. I also have a 24 RAV4 Hybrid and it's perfect. These are midsize vehicles that aren't doing anything fancy. In short, these "tank" vehicles and trucks that are meant for REAL tasks and off-roading are all going to suffer, because Toyota prioritized Government rebates over providing the consumer what they want.
Ford Bronco? They’ve had catastrophic engine failures and tons of recalls. Don’t know why we are obsessed with staying “up to date”. If you’re going to actually use your vehicle and keep it forever - a bronco ain’t it. Buy a vehicle that has a proven track record with countless instances of 300k (+) trouble free miles.
my f-150 with the 3.5 ecoboost is literally falling apart. horribly engineered, oil leaking everywhere, cam phasers shredding apart the engine, water pump leaking, o2 sensors going out. intake manifold over 50% clogged by carbon buildups only at 51k miles
So you’re up to date with the latest while it sits at the dealership waiting for warranty parts service. So you can make a payment on a ford you can’t drive.
These car reviewers haven't got a clue. I was a technician and comparing a Bronco to a 4runner is laughable at best. The 4runner has been perfected to the point it will go 400,000 miles with routine maintenance no problem. A bronco will be lucky to clear 100k miles without lots of repairs and frustration.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 my 8 month old Badlands Bronco has been in the shop 3 times now for no start. They are buying it back from me as we speak. I’ll be switching to the 4Runner
Exactly, when your 50 or 100 miles off road the last thing you want is an unreliable 4x4. I love my old 4 Runners and will never buy the new 4 cylinder turbo model and prefer their simplicity over tech every time. Toyota going forward with their CVT and turbos is a no go for me. They are going down the drain like Honda did years ago, just sad.
You're driving the last true Toyota, 6th Gen will be garbage with the new 4 cylinders turbo and appeal to the younger generations that care more about tech and a refined driving experience and don't care about reliability as they trade in every year like a phone.
I’m in my 50s and I don’t care for the 4Runner because it’s so unrefined, dated and has horrible fuel efficiency. I’m looking forward to the new one so your assumption about what you think people want is incomplete. These are your views and you don’t speak for everyone.
You fake “car guys” who think you understand any generation of people are so stupidly cringy. “Everyone else is dumb and doesn’t know good cars, BUT ME AND PEOPLE LIKE ME KNOW GOOD CARS” See how stupid y’all sound? Of course you don’t lol
I would stick with this 5th Gen 4Runner. At least you know what you’re getting; honest bulletproof reliability and pure ruggedness in the naturally aspirated V6 engine. A Ford, Jeep and Chevrolet will be in the shop all the time. Keep the oil changed in the Toyota 4Runner and you’re golden for hundreds of thousands of miles plus their high resale value is unmatched. I’ll wait to hear reviews from those who choose the new 6th Gen 2025 model with the turbo 4, but I still believe if it ain’t broke; don’t fix it.
Yes this 5th gen is the one to go with. That 4.0 has proven itself and I wish Toyota would keep it as an engine option on the 6th gen 4Runner and the 4th generation Tacoma so people have other options. Maybe just add a gear box with more gears for fuel efficiency and better power band. The new tundra proved to be a big disappointment with its turbo wastegate issues at less than 3k miles and one dude driving his home from the dealership to find his rear axle was broken. Good looking truck but again I wish the V8 was an option there. Now I’m already seeing videos with a new Tacoma breaking its front diff on an easy obstacle and another guy already taking his to the shop because his check engine light already came on. I grew up with Toyotas but these aren’t exactly inspiring confidence in the new redesigns. Which is a shame because they look good. People like to talk smack about the American brands but my 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon has been more reliable than my wife’s 2015 Toyota Corolla. Her car has been in the shop 3 times just in the last 4 months versus the 0 times my Jeep has in 5 years. And I off road the Jeep in the mountains of Colorado and Utah. My dad has a 2017 Chevy 3/4 ton that he takes up to the mountains as well and it’s got 220k miles with no issues. I want to replace the Corolla with a 4Runner TRD Pro but the price point right now needs to come down a bit, which I don’t see happening.
@@O-PAC Fair point. My dig at the other car makers is based upon over all track records and feedback heard from a lot of previous owners. Any vehicle is going to run well as long as you take care of it. Also every car manufacturer is going to have its outliers right? I just had a friend of mine that was having electrical problems out of his 2023 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD that he bought brand new last year. He kept getting the run around at the dealership he purchased it from and ended up trading it for a new one at a different Chevrolet dealership. Now you know the 2023 models were $55 -$60K brand new and that’s being modest. The 2024 models are in the $70K range. You would expect a basic level of reliability for a vehicle that costs that much with hardly any miles on it. I guess I’m just partial to Toyota and Subaru specifically because they are car brands known for their consistency when it comes to reliability and maintaining high resale value. Are they all perfect? No, but you know what I’m getting at. At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference and what you’re willing to pay for. As far as trying to get your hands on a 2024 4Runner TRD Pro, I’m with you. You need to shop around a lot not only at dealership’s in your home state but outside as well. Just inquire what their out the door prices are (including all taxes, fees and add-ons) and see how far they are willing to negotiate. I can tell you from experience they aren’t as inclined to come off too much. The TRD Pro are in limited supply because Toyota only builds 2000-3000 units per year. Based upon dealer allocations some get 1, 2 or maybe 3 if they are lucky while some won’t get any TRD Pro on their lots The dealerships in my home state were way above market so I did a search in a 500 mile radius at border states and found ones who were willing to negotiate and come off of some of the add-ons. They still charged MSRP but just no mark-ups. When the dealerships at home called back to inquire about whether I was still looking for one I asked if they could beat the other out the door price offersI found at out of state dealers including the tax for my home state and none of them could. One came within $1K but couldn’t beat it. That was the litmus test. None of the dealerships I found were willing to go under MSRP or below invoice for a TRD Pro but you never know you may find that one hidden gem of a dealership. I’m highly skeptical about the new twin turbo 4 cylinder even more so now after what you said about the new Tacomas. I’ll wait until they work out the kinks and any recalls in the 2025 models and beyond with the turbo V4. Redesign the vehicle fine but if the V6 engine has a proven record for reliability leave it the hell alone. Try to improve the gas mileage and emissions but otherwise don’t mess with it.
4Runner and Ford Bronco shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. The 4Runner is ancient but prob the most reliable vehicle out there. Can't say that for the Bronco
All of these car reviewers always miss the point of the 4Runner. I can't wait to see ten years from now when these guys that are trashing this Gen will be praising it for being one of the best SUV's ever made!
I love my 2024 TRD OR 4Runner. Still own my 2010 FJ, and it's been trouble-free since I purchased it. The 4Runner and FJ share the same power train, and an owner can expect decades of trouble-free ownership. You can't go wrong purchasing one. Simple shock upgrade will resolve any suspension concerns you may have. I'll take the KISS (keep It Simple Stupid) method of design over modern electronics and complication these new vehicles create.
I know what I would do, I picked up a new 5th gen last fall. All the upgraded safety I could need, old school Toyota durability and the product of 15 years of continuous refinement. In America we embrace this throw away culture and the desire to be seen in the fanciest, newest thing, with the most fashionable new technology that you don’t really need. If you want a fashion accessory and be part of the latest cool fad there are better options, if you don’t care about image or social status, and like to use 4wd’s hard, this is the last true good one IMHO. There is a reason there are people in the industry that proclaim this is the best vehicle currently in production from a quality and reliability stand point.
Going for the old school 4 runner, pick up the 24 trd off road premium monday, don't want to be kicking myself in the rear later down the road. As long as i don't drive in the salt, there should be no reason to not have this the rest of my life, im 56 now
I thought the same. I'm going on 49 and picked up a 2022 ORP army green. I plan on driving it until they pull my license. I've got a 1996 tacoma 4x4 I'm still driving. It should go another 28 years I'd think.
Count me in that bucket too... I'm 49 and hope the truck outlives me. All paid off too for my 23 ORP. At the time, thought I would be buying the last year of this gen, but alas 24 is the last. Still stoked a year and a half in and excited whenever I get in her.
I’m 29 and I bought a used 2019 4Runner trd off road. I live in the saltbelt so for preventative maintenance I fluid film the entire frame towards the end of summer.
Thanks car Guru. Between you and Edmunds I found my wife’s 4runner. 2024 sr5 premium, 4wd, 3rd row, underground grey with some add ons. Had a few dealers fight each other for the lowest price. $44k before taxes. This rig plus my 21 tundra CM 4x4 cement are the last of the best 🤙🏾.
Nice review !!! I think I would go for the 4 runner simply on reliability and durability. I feel it is a bargain price for what you get on a few trims . That being said , if you want the latest technology or more fuel efficiency, then others make more sense . After years of consideration and avoiding it , i eventually gave in and bought this last year of production. Time will tell if I feel it was a good decision!
Toyota all the way man! Y'all know what FORD stands for right? Fix Or Repair Daily and that is what they really are. Again, don't buy the book for its cover.
Agreed. Just one more thing to deal with when the odometer passes 100,000 miles. Ten years from now car buying guides will be like "...be sure to avoid the first 3 years of the new Turbo 4runner which were problematic until they sorted the design issues..stick with at least the 2028 model year which had much better reliability."
Those that say outdated just live too ahead of themselves thinking that everything that new comes out is worth running to. Kinda like a new lady that comes along the way. Its all good looks good on the outside until in the long run it’s not really as reliable as you think and it just creates more worry in the long run Trying to keep up maintenance and reputation. Life is better worry free
Great review and show ! I just purchased a 2024 4Runner Limited and so far so good i am throughly enjoying it ! This is the type of vehicle i would keep for a very long time granted i am on top of my maintenance . 😊
This vehicle is perfect, i'm buying a 2024 before they are gona forever. These turbo engines and meeting new emissions standards are having engineers make absolute garbage. This is the last great vehicle of our lifetime, sadly. I can do all the maintenace on this myself, don't like the road handling? pop on some bilsteins. Super easy to customize. Any complaints about the interior are null once you see the dash screen on the new 4runner, 17" screen on top of the dash blocking your view from outside? Anyone that wants something like that has no business driving a vehicle
I believe that you have completely missed the point in your review of the current 4Runner, which is evident in the fact that customers are still paying over sticker in some markets to get one of the last 5th gen’s. You would choose a Ford Bronco over the 4Runner? Interesting. I guess we’re looking for different things. I want a capable and dependable off-roader that still has some road manners, oh and no wind noise or leaking roof. The verdict is I just wasted twelve minutes watching this lame “review “. 🤡
So many 'car critics', esp the big outlet corporate ones, dog on the 4runner like every other spec junkie. There's a reason corporate salaried car "critics" are not the men in the arena actually making things. 4runners have sold more 4runners the past year than any other year. Interesting, huh? But the spec gimmick jockies ponder and pontificate. How is this so? HOW? I am paid to critic all the new dazzling bells and whistles. I'm an expert! I know all of the things!
That's not even remotely true. You realize you're on the internet, where anyone can fact check you in a second? Toyota sold 109,951 4Runner in 2023. In 2022, Toyota sold 121,023 4Runner. They sold 11,072 more units in year 2022 compared to 2023 with a percent loss of 9.15% YoY.
I hate how they see this as an off road vehicle. It is a go anywhere vehicle. It won't be great at any one area but will do all over and over again with no issues for 200k miles.
Despite all your negativity, the Gen 5 and below 4 Runners are the best in the market-- IF you want a truck that will run forever. Pitch, roll, braking, cargo space, and interior design mean nothing while you are waiting for your vehicle to get out of the shop! How many MPGs are you getting while your vehicle is on the lift at the Ford dealership??
The 4runner is superior to the Bronco in terms of noise, vibration and rattles. More importantly, it will be infinitely more reliable. The 4runner is the most durable, reliable and overbuilt new car for sale in the US period. 400,000+ miles is no problem for these vehicles at all with regular oil changes and routine maintenance. The Bronco will be lucky to hit 125k miles without major problems and a dozen shop visits for repairs along the way.
Based on Tundra turbo motors failing and the recall, I'd wait 4 or 5 years for the new 4 cylinder turbo and hybrid to prove itself in the redesigned 2025 4runner.
You bring up many true points about the 24 4Runner but I'm glad I got mine. I'm not a fan of small displacement turbo engines. And as a dealership mechanic for 30 years, I learned that buying a first generation vehicle is a bad idea. They typically have a lot of early teething problems. Yeah, my 4Runner is a bit of a pig on acceleration and not the best on gas, but I couldn't be happier with it. I'm almost 68. This should last as long as I do.
I can live with a lot of what some consider to be negatives (though I consider them to be positives) for $30,000 less. I like no stop/start, I like a 4x4 shift lever instead of electronic buttons or dials, I like less tech, I like buttons, knobs and levers instead of having to do it all from a touchscreen, I like a simple naturally aspirated engine that runs on 87 octane and a simple transmission I can rely on, etc. I like being able to do my own maintenance and being able to work on my car without having a PhD in engineering or computers software. I can buy a lot of fuel for 30K and I bet I can go 99.999% of the places a new Bronco, LC or 4Runner will be able to while spending less on insurance, taxes and registration. I'll be keeping my 5th gen for quite some time, thank you.
Everything else out there is going to those crummy trubo 4cyl engines many with the rubber band CVT transmissions. The fate of the 2025 4 Runner is the crummy 4 cyl turbo engine also. Four cylinder engines in 4000 lb 2/3 row SUV's is because of the handful of morons in the EPA. Who the heck would buy a $55K vehicle before loan interest, taxes etc and be obsessed about mileage? The first out of warranty problem negates all gas mileage savings for life of vehicle. You can't fix anything on these turbo, hybrid, computer electronics driven nightmares for less than $1200.
I just bought a 2024 4runner with no regrets. Ford quality has taken a nosedive and this rig is legendary off road and that's the sole reason I bought it. I have another vehicle for my everyday driver. Toyota has a lot of new stuff launching which is great but none of it has 10 years worth of data to back it up. My dinosaur? The book has been written!
I thought the same thing. I got a 2023 ORP….its like a tank. Test drove the Bronco when it came out because I was curious and liked the retro look. The Bronco feels so cheaply made it was an immediate no go for me. So glad got my 4R.
No comparison in terms of durability and reliability with the 4Runner vs. the Bronco. Broncos are overpriced money traps for people who enjoy paying $10k over sticker for a Ford and relish sitting in the service lobby every 6 months or more! Any 4Runner will outlive a similar model year Bronco by at least 10 years!
That “antiquated transfer case shifter” 6:28 is by far much better and reliable than push electronic actuators . People get these suvs bc these vehicles are reliable
Toyota has already officially teased the new 2025 4runner, which means this 5th generation 2024 will be the last true naturally aspirated Japan-made Toyota truck, these TRD pro specially will skyrocket in price.
It’s self rewarding when you drive a Toyota or Lexus vehicle, knowing you’re not getting recalled as soon as it’s driven off the lot. I drive a 23 GX460 my wife drives a 2017 RAV4, we 💙💙 the Toyota and Lexus vehicles 🚗
I did get myself 2024 4runner limited. I'm glad to say that I bought best last gen of the 4runner. I love it, daily commute my 4runner, put a lot of miles and it's very comfortable. I don't take it off-road because I don't have time to do so since I have a new born. Im from the Noth East and it got through crazy snow storms, used 4low to climb snow banks just for fun and never skipped a bit, it's just went for it.
Interesting from a none 4Runner Subject Matter Expert. The true top dog 4Runner is 100% built in Japan. The TRD Pro is finished assembled at a US port where the subjective feel Fox Equipment is installed. Get your hands on a TRD Off Road Premium equipped with KDSS & take it out for a spin. This is true aged perfection & not a Turbo that’s a disposable engine. Literally the unibody body deposable car/truck in an engine. The 6th Gen 4Runners with the turbo will be suited for the deposable lease crowd. The 5th is the long term problem free ownership crew with the 2024 out of Japan being the best one of them all.
@@normanli7085mark takahashi has no idea what he’s talking about. I know 💯 everyone’s going to be extremely disappointed with the next gen. Just like the new tundra lx sequoia were complete disasters
@@naveenthemachine if the 4runner is going to share a lot of components with the tacoma and keep the features that makes a 4runner a 4runner, it's going to be a home run
You guy's should tell your presenter to mention how tall they are when talking about front/ rear seat leg and head room. It really doesn't give me as the viewer any real sense of how large the backseat is if you say "I have plenty of leg and head room back here" without mentioning your proportions.
Man I love that truck! I just bought a '23 Trail Edition Tacoma and I absolutely love it. But originally I wanted a 4Runner and this thing in Terra looks amazing. And being the last year.. well it will be iconic.
I just bought a 2020 Trd off road premium with 16,000 miles. And I absolutely love it I know there’s a lot of technology out there but this one is something special I love working on things myself and this is right up my alley
I love 4Runners, and keep buying them…I am crazy 😜. I grew up with old trucks, so these are luxurious comparatively speaking. Less stuff to break, but yes, they are too expensive. Luckily I picked up my orp for $42k a few years back and spent money on a suspension upgrade. Worth it. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Just bought a 24 Trd pro and love it, the lagging acceleration can be fixed with a banks calibrator but the minimalistic tech is what drove me back to the 4runner. This vehicle is a instant classic and will hold it's value forsure of you decide to trade later?
I saw a 2013 on the road the other day immaculate beautiful it’s just an ageless design and ageless truck and I love the Land Cruiser. I love these trucks. I’m hoping to buy one this summer.
I own a 21 Land Cruiser and a 22 4runner trd pro both vehicles bought new and both black on black, when it comes to cars i did close that chapter and im good for a very long long time, good luck to the ones that are looking forward to the new gen.
I have a problem. In 2016, I bought my 4runner brand new. Had a rock hit the windshield in 2017- replaced the windshield immediately at the Toyota dealer I got it from. Fast forward to Dec 2023... battery died...replaced it. Feb 2024 had to be towed and replace an air injection driver (i think thats what they called it). July -dead battery again, tested/ replaced. Aug replaced battery a third time and had to replace air injection driver I think again in Aug...and kept asking them to check wires for corrosion since I noticed rust on the body above the windshield. Now...this past w/e alarms going off middle of the night and the DTR lights were on despite switch in off position. Battery dead again...finally they witnessed the light issue and believed me when I said it is an electrical issue and my gut tells me it's related to the rust...and it is (have been saying that for 2 mos). They now want $13,000 to replace the wire harness. Showed me pix of water that is leaking into the wires from the windshield, not visible before they removed the dash panel. That's 13k for the parts that may take weeks to come in and labor. Does not include a new windshield or fixing the rust above it. I work from home and only have 41k miles on my truck and it was purchased w cash so no payments. I love my truck and wanted to keep it as long as I could still drive (I'm 59). I don't want a payment or a new vehicle. How do I know this is really what's needed or are there other options? Is it worth the money to fix? The carfax emails I get say my trade in would be worth 21k- before this problem. Idk how accurate those are though. Any ideas or advice would be great. I got a Toyota to avoid this kind of thing. I have never missed any of the maintenance on it. And btw...my dad works at FORD x30yr. Ironic.
I'll buy a 2024 or earlier 4Runner if I needed a vehicle today/immediately. Otherwise, I'm on a waiting list for a 2025 4Runner TRDPro, with an alternative plan to get a Lexus GX550 OverTrail instead should one be available in the color I'd want. I'm tending toward the '25 4Runner unless at the moment unless any catastrophic failures/recalls arise.
I love the 4Runner but at the same time, 45-55k is a lot of money for a car that, mechanically, hasn’t changed since 2005. I’d buy one used, or wait for the new one.
got the 2023 5th gen. it's got 3,000 miles on it today,,,, sr5 seems to run just fine. tried & true never fails to start and run is why i got my 5th gen. hope to have it for 20 years or more.
I am trying to understand! You are doing a review with top off roader TRD pro and driving on regular road and telling the features we already know?! What is the point?!
What you say is true. It will take you on the same trail as other modern off roader but without their comfort on road and technology… but it will continue to take you on those same trails much after these modern off-roaders had become scrap metal😂
The generation is still living legend. i really love the simplicity and off-road rugged it's give 💪🔥
No one is buying the Bronco , their sales have literally fallen off a cliff.
Is it purely quality issues? Or more so the reason that the 4runner is a better value
@@MilindSabarad quality issues, cost, some don’t like how high they sit and don’t buy after they get in and get out a few times. There’s a host a reasons the bronco is essentially an off road sports car. An unreliable one. Plus resale value isn’t there.
T4R for me! Tried and true....will last 4 Ever🎉
2024 4Runner has no turbo, no fancy instrument panel, and is MADE IN JAPAN (Tahara plant). Those are the main reasons why I'm buying one while they are still available. I plan on keeping it for a long time.
Thanks for posting this video.
I’ve owned Corollas, Land Cruisers, and 4Runners. I still own a 4Runner 3rd gen & 80 series Land Cruiser. I have to say the 4Runner is the most practical & reliable vehicle. Cost of maintenance is also low
having had a 4th gen 4runner and a 100 series myself, I agree with you totally, 4runners are the lowest maintenance 4x4 you can run. practical enough to run long distances, and park in the lot.
The 2024 4runner is a dinosour but its the most reliable well put together mid sized SUV made and being 100 percent made in JAPAN thats what mkes it a great classic to purchase, that will be gone soon
I say the same... "It's a dinosaur, but a dinosaur that will survive the next meteor strike"
Ofc the 4Runner is a dinosaur....but here's the thing....reliability was the old school Toyota. Sure, you can wait for all the whiz bang technical updates and overall design in the 25 4Runner, but at the cost of the turbo injected 4cyl engines that have really started out with a "bang"---and that wasn't a compliment. I bought the 24 Camry v6 just because I wanted a naturally aspirated engine above 4cyl.....I'm ok with hybrid....without a turbo injected engine. I also have a 24 RAV4 Hybrid and it's perfect. These are midsize vehicles that aren't doing anything fancy.
In short, these "tank" vehicles and trucks that are meant for REAL tasks and off-roading are all going to suffer, because Toyota prioritized Government rebates over providing the consumer what they want.
@@justahumbledude yes well said
The 5th Gen 4runner will be a legend and will outlast any suv out there in the market
Please don’t compare garbage like bronco and jeep with this legend. My friend you have lots to learn. And no one cares about mpg anymore.
Ford Bronco? They’ve had catastrophic engine failures and tons of recalls. Don’t know why we are obsessed with staying “up to date”. If you’re going to actually use your vehicle and keep it forever - a bronco ain’t it. Buy a vehicle that has a proven track record with countless instances of 300k (+) trouble free miles.
my f-150 with the 3.5 ecoboost is literally falling apart. horribly engineered, oil leaking everywhere, cam phasers shredding apart the engine, water pump leaking, o2 sensors going out. intake manifold over 50% clogged by carbon buildups only at 51k miles
So you’re up to date with the latest while it sits at the dealership waiting for warranty parts service. So you can make a payment on a ford you can’t drive.
These car reviewers haven't got a clue. I was a technician and comparing a Bronco to a 4runner is laughable at best. The 4runner has been perfected to the point it will go 400,000 miles with routine maintenance no problem. A bronco will be lucky to clear 100k miles without lots of repairs and frustration.
I’d take this over the 6th gen everyday and twice on Sunday!
@@afellowinnewengland6142 my 8 month old Badlands Bronco has been in the shop 3 times now for no start. They are buying it back from me as we speak. I’ll be switching to the 4Runner
The 4runner holds a trump card. It's the most reliable SUV on the market.
Exactly, when your 50 or 100 miles off road the last thing you want is an unreliable 4x4. I love my old 4 Runners and will never buy the new 4 cylinder turbo model and prefer their simplicity over tech every time. Toyota going forward with their CVT and turbos is a no go for me. They are going down the drain like Honda did years ago, just sad.
Own an 18 and a 24 TRD.
Best trouble free vehicles and extremely reliable.
I like the old school features❤
You're driving the last true Toyota, 6th Gen will be garbage with the new 4 cylinders turbo and appeal to the younger generations that care more about tech and a refined driving experience and don't care about reliability as they trade in every year like a phone.
As much as I want to disagree. You are right!
That's 100% true. Specially this TRD Pro model will jump on price. They already teased the new 2025 4Runner, so this will be the last true Toyota.
I’m in my 50s and I don’t care for the 4Runner because it’s so unrefined, dated and has horrible fuel efficiency. I’m looking forward to the new one so your assumption about what you think people want is incomplete. These are your views and you don’t speak for everyone.
You fake “car guys” who think you understand any generation of people are so stupidly cringy.
“Everyone else is dumb and doesn’t know good cars, BUT ME AND PEOPLE LIKE ME KNOW GOOD CARS”
See how stupid y’all sound? Of course you don’t lol
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I just got 2024 4runner off road premium with KDSS. Love it!
What’s the mpg?
@@financiallyfreerealtor966 We have the same car, 22-24 mpg highway and 12-14mpg in the city. You don't buy this type of car for the gas mileage.
@@financiallyfreerealtor966one mile per gallon less than the new version
@@financiallyfreerealtor966 First time on the internet?
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If you are worried about gas mileage this is not for you. Maybe you should focus on a prius, corolla, civic etc.
I would stick with this 5th Gen 4Runner. At least you know what you’re getting; honest bulletproof reliability and pure ruggedness in the naturally aspirated V6 engine. A Ford, Jeep and Chevrolet will be in the shop all the time. Keep the oil changed in the Toyota 4Runner and you’re golden for hundreds of thousands of miles plus their high resale value is unmatched.
I’ll wait to hear reviews from those who choose the new 6th Gen 2025 model with the turbo 4, but I still believe if it ain’t broke; don’t fix it.
Yes this 5th gen is the one to go with. That 4.0 has proven itself and I wish Toyota would keep it as an engine option on the 6th gen 4Runner and the 4th generation Tacoma so people have other options. Maybe just add a gear box with more gears for fuel efficiency and better power band. The new tundra proved to be a big disappointment with its turbo wastegate issues at less than 3k miles and one dude driving his home from the dealership to find his rear axle was broken. Good looking truck but again I wish the V8 was an option there. Now I’m already seeing videos with a new Tacoma breaking its front diff on an easy obstacle and another guy already taking his to the shop because his check engine light already came on. I grew up with Toyotas but these aren’t exactly inspiring confidence in the new redesigns. Which is a shame because they look good. People like to talk smack about the American brands but my 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon has been more reliable than my wife’s 2015 Toyota Corolla. Her car has been in the shop 3 times just in the last 4 months versus the 0 times my Jeep has in 5 years. And I off road the Jeep in the mountains of Colorado and Utah. My dad has a 2017 Chevy 3/4 ton that he takes up to the mountains as well and it’s got 220k miles with no issues. I want to replace the Corolla with a 4Runner TRD Pro but the price point right now needs to come down a bit, which I don’t see happening.
@@O-PAC Fair point. My dig at the other car makers is based upon over all track records and feedback heard from a lot of previous owners. Any vehicle is going to run well as long as you take care of it. Also every car manufacturer is going to have its outliers right?
I just had a friend of mine that was having electrical problems out of his 2023 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD that he bought brand new last year. He kept getting the run around at the dealership he purchased it from and ended up trading it for a new one at a different Chevrolet dealership. Now you know the 2023 models were $55 -$60K brand new and that’s being modest. The 2024 models are in the $70K range. You would expect a basic level of reliability for a vehicle that costs that much with hardly any miles on it.
I guess I’m just partial to Toyota and Subaru specifically because they are car brands known for their consistency when it comes to reliability and maintaining high resale value. Are they all perfect? No, but you know what I’m getting at. At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference and what you’re willing to pay for.
As far as trying to get your hands on a 2024 4Runner TRD Pro, I’m with you. You need to shop around a lot not only at dealership’s in your home state but outside as well. Just inquire what their out the door prices are (including all taxes, fees and add-ons) and see how far they are willing to negotiate. I can tell you from experience they aren’t as inclined to come off too much. The TRD Pro are in limited supply because Toyota only builds 2000-3000 units per year. Based upon dealer allocations some get 1, 2 or maybe 3 if they are lucky while some won’t get any TRD Pro on their lots
The dealerships in my home state were way above market so I did a search in a 500 mile radius at border states and found ones who were willing to negotiate and come off of some of the add-ons. They still charged MSRP but just no mark-ups. When the dealerships at home called back to inquire about whether I was still looking for one I asked if they could beat the other out the door price offersI found at out of state dealers including the tax for my home state and none of them could. One came within $1K but couldn’t beat it. That was the litmus test. None of the dealerships I found were willing to go under MSRP or below invoice for a TRD Pro but you never know you may find that one hidden gem of a dealership.
I’m highly skeptical about the new twin turbo 4 cylinder even more so now after what you said about the new Tacomas. I’ll wait until they work out the kinks and any recalls in the 2025 models and beyond with the turbo V4. Redesign the vehicle fine but if the V6 engine has a proven record for reliability leave it the hell alone. Try to improve the gas mileage and emissions but otherwise don’t mess with it.
4Runner and Ford Bronco shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. The 4Runner is ancient but prob the most reliable vehicle out there. Can't say that for the Bronco
You buy the 4Runner so it can last you 25 years, you buy a bronco and in 5 years they're trash 😂
Build quality and reliability are never outdated
Then just walk it's more reliable than any vehicle 😂
All of these car reviewers always miss the point of the 4Runner. I can't wait to see ten years from now when these guys that are trashing this Gen will be praising it for being one of the best SUV's ever made!
I love my 2024 TRD OR 4Runner. Still own my 2010 FJ, and it's been trouble-free since I purchased it. The 4Runner and FJ share the same power train, and an owner can expect decades of trouble-free ownership.
You can't go wrong purchasing one. Simple shock upgrade will resolve any suspension concerns you may have.
I'll take the KISS (keep It Simple Stupid) method of design over modern electronics and complication these new vehicles create.
I’ll choose the 5th gen 4R to the new Broncos. The Broncos are toys and have more problems than what they are worth
The Toyota will outlive the Ford by at least double the years.
I know what I would do, I picked up a new 5th gen last fall. All the upgraded safety I could need, old school Toyota durability and the product of 15 years of continuous refinement. In America we embrace this throw away culture and the desire to be seen in the fanciest, newest thing, with the most fashionable new technology that you don’t really need. If you want a fashion accessory and be part of the latest cool fad there are better options, if you don’t care about image or social status, and like to use 4wd’s hard, this is the last true good one IMHO. There is a reason there are people in the industry that proclaim this is the best vehicle currently in production from a quality and reliability stand point.
Going for the old school 4 runner, pick up the 24 trd off road premium monday, don't want to be kicking myself in the rear later down the road. As long as i don't drive in the salt, there should be no reason to not have this the rest of my life, im 56 now
I thought the same. I'm going on 49 and picked up a 2022 ORP army green. I plan on driving it until they pull my license. I've got a 1996 tacoma 4x4 I'm still driving. It should go another 28 years I'd think.
I’m 50, got myself a 2023 ORP in Lunar Rock because I don’t want anything to do with the turbo 4…. I love this truck. Will keep it forever.
Count me in that bucket too... I'm 49 and hope the truck outlives me. All paid off too for my 23 ORP. At the time, thought I would be buying the last year of this gen, but alas 24 is the last. Still stoked a year and a half in and excited whenever I get in her.
I’m 29 and I bought a used 2019 4Runner trd off road. I live in the saltbelt so for preventative maintenance I fluid film the entire frame towards the end of summer.
@@4gedcarbon537 I'm doing the same with the '24. I feel like everyone has lost their minds
Give me tried and true over new gizmos any day of the week.getting to old to wrench on crap products 😂
There is a reason the TRD 4Runners have the "antiquated" manual 4x4 shift lever. ....It always works. No electronic servos to fail.
Yup! Love my ORP
you recommended ford? you're no Guru
Absolutely love it! The colour and idc if it’s the old style because in my opinion it’s timeless! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks car Guru. Between you and Edmunds I found my wife’s 4runner.
2024 sr5 premium, 4wd, 3rd row, underground grey with some add ons. Had a few dealers fight each other for the lowest price. $44k before taxes.
This rig plus my 21 tundra CM 4x4 cement are the last of the best 🤙🏾.
Why does he not talk about reliability? Do you really think a ford bronco is going to last as long as the older 4Runner and Jeep is even worse.
You just don’t get it.
Nice review !!! I think I would go for the 4 runner simply on reliability and durability. I feel it is a bargain price for what you get on a few trims . That being said , if you want the latest technology or more fuel efficiency, then others make more sense . After years of consideration and avoiding it , i eventually gave in and bought this last year of production. Time will tell if I feel it was a good decision!
Toyota all the way man! Y'all know what FORD stands for right? Fix Or Repair Daily and that is what they really are. Again, don't buy the book for its cover.
I would definitely buy the 4runner, anytime of the day
Turbo = No $ale for me.
Agreed. Just one more thing to deal with when the odometer passes 100,000 miles. Ten years from now car buying guides will be like "...be sure to avoid the first 3 years of the new Turbo 4runner which were problematic until they sorted the design issues..stick with at least the 2028 model year which had much better reliability."
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
You have a thing for a Ford Bronco. Good luck
Sounds like you want a street car. Then be sure to buy a STREET car.
All the Bronco owners i know are dealing with recalls.... and the Jeeps are ugly.
4Runner has the greatest technology of all! PROVEN technology! And did I mention, made in Japan. Same factory the make Lexus! Nuff said!
Some say "outdated", many others still buying them say "proven".
Those that say outdated just live too ahead of themselves thinking that everything that new comes out is worth running to. Kinda like a new lady that comes along the way. Its all good looks good on the outside until in the long run it’s not really as reliable as you think and it just creates more worry in the long run Trying to keep up maintenance and reputation. Life is better worry free
Great review and show ! I just purchased a 2024 4Runner Limited and so far so good i am throughly enjoying it ! This is the type of vehicle i would keep for a very long time granted i am on top of my maintenance . 😊
This vehicle is perfect, i'm buying a 2024 before they are gona forever. These turbo engines and meeting new emissions standards are having engineers make absolute garbage. This is the last great vehicle of our lifetime, sadly.
I can do all the maintenace on this myself, don't like the road handling? pop on some bilsteins. Super easy to customize. Any complaints about the interior are null once you see the dash screen on the new 4runner, 17" screen on top of the dash blocking your view from outside? Anyone that wants something like that has no business driving a vehicle
I believe that you have completely missed the point in your review of the current 4Runner, which is evident in the fact that customers are still paying over sticker in some markets to get one of the last 5th gen’s.
You would choose a Ford Bronco over the 4Runner? Interesting. I guess we’re looking for different things. I want a capable and dependable off-roader that still has some road manners, oh and no wind noise or leaking roof.
The verdict is I just wasted twelve minutes watching this lame “review “. 🤡
So many 'car critics', esp the big outlet corporate ones, dog on the 4runner like every other spec junkie. There's a reason corporate salaried car "critics" are not the men in the arena actually making things. 4runners have sold more 4runners the past year than any other year. Interesting, huh?
But the spec gimmick jockies ponder and pontificate. How is this so? HOW? I am paid to critic all the new dazzling bells and whistles. I'm an expert! I know all of the things!
This is like the ones that are salesmen and know what is the most reliable when its not 😂
That's not even remotely true. You realize you're on the internet, where anyone can fact check you in a second? Toyota sold 109,951 4Runner in 2023. In 2022, Toyota sold 121,023 4Runner. They sold 11,072 more units in year 2022 compared to 2023 with a percent loss of 9.15% YoY.
Nice video. I love my 5th Gen 4Runner, "shortcomings" and all.
I hate how they see this as an off road vehicle. It is a go anywhere vehicle. It won't be great at any one area but will do all over and over again with no issues for 200k miles.
Despite all your negativity, the Gen 5 and below 4 Runners are the best in the market-- IF you want a truck that will run forever. Pitch, roll, braking, cargo space, and interior design mean nothing while you are waiting for your vehicle to get out of the shop! How many MPGs are you getting while your vehicle is on the lift at the Ford dealership??
4Runner is a beast I love it
5th gen Runner is still the best ever IMHO!
Time will prove it when we see the new ones getting repaired
The 4runner is superior to the Bronco in terms of noise, vibration and rattles. More importantly, it will be infinitely more reliable. The 4runner is the most durable, reliable and overbuilt new car for sale in the US period. 400,000+ miles is no problem for these vehicles at all with regular oil changes and routine maintenance. The Bronco will be lucky to hit 125k miles without major problems and a dozen shop visits for repairs along the way.
I’m going for the 4Runner.
Mine shows up in 2 weeks, its the last car i'll probably buy, and im 44.
Based on Tundra turbo motors failing and the recall, I'd wait 4 or 5 years for the new 4 cylinder turbo and hybrid to prove itself in the redesigned 2025 4runner.
You bring up many true points about the 24 4Runner but I'm glad I got mine. I'm not a fan of small displacement turbo engines. And as a dealership mechanic for 30 years, I learned that buying a first generation vehicle is a bad idea. They typically have a lot of early teething problems. Yeah, my 4Runner is a bit of a pig on acceleration and not the best on gas, but I couldn't be happier with it. I'm almost 68. This should last as long as I do.
this wasn`t a great video, i love the 4runner
I can live with a lot of what some consider to be negatives (though I consider them to be positives) for $30,000 less. I like no stop/start, I like a 4x4 shift lever instead of electronic buttons or dials, I like less tech, I like buttons, knobs and levers instead of having to do it all from a touchscreen, I like a simple naturally aspirated engine that runs on 87 octane and a simple transmission I can rely on, etc. I like being able to do my own maintenance and being able to work on my car without having a PhD in engineering or computers software. I can buy a lot of fuel for 30K and I bet I can go 99.999% of the places a new Bronco, LC or 4Runner will be able to while spending less on insurance, taxes and registration. I'll be keeping my 5th gen for quite some time, thank you.
Everything else out there is going to those crummy trubo 4cyl engines many with the rubber band CVT transmissions. The fate of the 2025 4 Runner is the crummy 4 cyl turbo engine also. Four cylinder engines in 4000 lb 2/3 row SUV's is because of the handful of morons in the EPA. Who the heck would buy a $55K vehicle before loan interest, taxes etc and be obsessed about mileage? The first out of warranty problem negates all gas mileage savings for life of vehicle. You can't fix anything on these turbo, hybrid, computer electronics driven nightmares for less than $1200.
I just bought a 2024 4runner with no regrets. Ford quality has taken a nosedive and this rig is legendary off road and that's the sole reason I bought it. I have another vehicle for my everyday driver. Toyota has a lot of new stuff launching which is great but none of it has 10 years worth of data to back it up. My dinosaur? The book has been written!
I do off road and overland that’s why I luv this 5’th gen 4Runner in fact I owned two right now 2012 and 2023 ❤
this guy really just said to take a Ford Bronco over a 4runner. LMFAO.
I thought the same thing. I got a 2023 ORP….its like a tank. Test drove the Bronco when it came out because I was curious and liked the retro look. The Bronco feels so cheaply made it was an immediate no go for me. So glad got my 4R.
No comparison in terms of durability and reliability with the 4Runner vs. the Bronco. Broncos are overpriced money traps for people who enjoy paying $10k over sticker for a Ford and relish sitting in the service lobby every 6 months or more! Any 4Runner will outlive a similar model year Bronco by at least 10 years!
@@stevemcdaniel7990 Working at a ford dealer with a line of recall’s in the service department for those broncos, YOURE NOT WRONG 🙈
2023 4 runner owner here
Love it!!
How's the ride/comfort?
That “antiquated transfer case shifter” 6:28 is by far much better and reliable than push electronic actuators . People get these suvs bc these vehicles are reliable
Toyota: we hold the record for how long we can fool people into buying the same product every year
Yamaha: hold my beer
this guy gave the worst review of 4 runner I’ve ever seen. Dude probably drives a mini.
Toyota has already officially teased the new 2025 4runner, which means this 5th generation 2024 will be the last true naturally aspirated Japan-made Toyota truck, these TRD pro specially will skyrocket in price.
It’s self rewarding when you drive a Toyota or Lexus vehicle, knowing you’re not getting recalled as soon as it’s driven off the lot. I drive a 23 GX460 my wife drives a 2017 RAV4, we 💙💙 the Toyota and Lexus vehicles 🚗
I did get myself 2024 4runner limited. I'm glad to say that I bought best last gen of the 4runner. I love it, daily commute my 4runner, put a lot of miles and it's very comfortable. I don't take it off-road because I don't have time to do so since I have a new born. Im from the Noth East and it got through crazy snow storms, used 4low to climb snow banks just for fun and never skipped a bit, it's just went for it.
Interesting from a none 4Runner Subject Matter Expert. The true top dog 4Runner is 100% built in Japan. The TRD Pro is finished assembled at a US port where the subjective feel Fox Equipment is installed. Get your hands on a TRD Off Road Premium equipped with KDSS & take it out for a spin. This is true aged perfection & not a Turbo that’s a disposable engine. Literally the unibody body deposable car/truck in an engine. The 6th Gen 4Runners with the turbo will be suited for the deposable lease crowd. The 5th is the long term problem free ownership crew with the 2024 out of Japan being the best one of them all.
3rd generation is the best in some circles. I love my 5th gen because it’s mine. 6th gen will be expensive…bottom line
You’ll be very disappointed with the next generation model 😂. If the tundra sequoia LX are anything to go by it’ll be a complete mess
Hi Naveen, It looks like u wanted to be first here after everyone commented before u, huh 😂
@@normanli7085mark takahashi has no idea what he’s talking about. I know 💯 everyone’s going to be extremely disappointed with the next gen. Just like the new tundra lx sequoia were complete disasters
@@naveenthemachine if the 4runner is going to share a lot of components with the tacoma and keep the features that makes a 4runner a 4runner, it's going to be a home run
With a computer there is more room for manipulation
I love that TERRA color!
You guy's should tell your presenter to mention how tall they are when talking about front/ rear seat leg and head room. It really doesn't give me as the viewer any real sense of how large the backseat is if you say "I have plenty of leg and head room back here" without mentioning your proportions.
Man I love that truck! I just bought a '23 Trail Edition Tacoma and I absolutely love it. But originally I wanted a 4Runner and this thing in Terra looks amazing. And being the last year.. well it will be iconic.
Only reason I won’t buy this is the gas MPG .
I just bought a 2020 Trd off road premium with 16,000 miles. And I absolutely love it I know there’s a lot of technology out there but this one is something special I love working on things myself and this is right up my alley
Yeah, no. I love my 4Runner.
Also that head space in the rear for passengers is increased with models that don’t have a sun roof.
I love 4Runners, and keep buying them…I am crazy 😜. I grew up with old trucks, so these are luxurious comparatively speaking. Less stuff to break, but yes, they are too expensive. Luckily I picked up my orp for $42k a few years back and spent money on a suspension upgrade. Worth it. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
I feel like every complaint in this video is something an actual 4runner owner would not care about for one second.
Just bought a 24 Trd pro and love it, the lagging acceleration can be fixed with a banks calibrator but the minimalistic tech is what drove me back to the 4runner. This vehicle is a instant classic and will hold it's value forsure of you decide to trade later?
I saw a 2013 on the road the other day immaculate beautiful it’s just an ageless design and ageless truck and I love the Land Cruiser. I love these trucks. I’m hoping to buy one this summer.
Like it all.
I own a 21 Land Cruiser and a 22 4runner trd pro both vehicles bought new and both black on black, when it comes to cars i did close that chapter and im good for a very long long time, good luck to the ones that are looking forward to the new gen.
I have a problem. In 2016, I bought my 4runner brand new. Had a rock hit the windshield in 2017- replaced the windshield immediately at the Toyota dealer I got it from. Fast forward to Dec 2023... battery died...replaced it. Feb 2024 had to be towed and replace an air injection driver (i think thats what they called it). July -dead battery again, tested/ replaced. Aug replaced battery a third time and had to replace air injection driver I think again in Aug...and kept asking them to check wires for corrosion since I noticed rust on the body above the windshield. Now...this past w/e alarms going off middle of the night and the DTR lights were on despite switch in off position. Battery dead again...finally they witnessed the light issue and believed me when I said it is an electrical issue and my gut tells me it's related to the rust...and it is (have been saying that for 2 mos). They now want $13,000 to replace the wire harness. Showed me pix of water that is leaking into the wires from the windshield, not visible before they removed the dash panel. That's 13k for the parts that may take weeks to come in and labor. Does not include a new windshield or fixing the rust above it. I work from home and only have 41k miles on my truck and it was purchased w cash so no payments. I love my truck and wanted to keep it as long as I could still drive (I'm 59). I don't want a payment or a new vehicle. How do I know this is really what's needed or are there other options? Is it worth the money to fix? The carfax emails I get say my trade in would be worth 21k- before this problem. Idk how accurate those are though. Any ideas or advice would be great. I got a Toyota to avoid this kind of thing. I have never missed any of the maintenance on it. And btw...my dad works at FORD x30yr. Ironic.
Yes, I love a more older look. More simple dash. I find it more appealing and gives it a quality luxurious feel. I dislike the newer electrical dash.
This vehicle will still be on the road when the next generation is in the junk yard
We can only hope so they can get back to the drawing board🙏
Worst driving vehicle I have ever taken out for a test drive. Should have been updated years ago.
I'll buy a 2024 or earlier 4Runner if I needed a vehicle today/immediately. Otherwise, I'm on a waiting list for a 2025 4Runner TRDPro, with an alternative plan to get a Lexus GX550 OverTrail instead should one be available in the color I'd want. I'm tending toward the '25 4Runner unless at the moment unless any catastrophic failures/recalls arise.
I love the 4Runner but at the same time, 45-55k is a lot of money for a car that, mechanically, hasn’t changed since 2005. I’d buy one used, or wait for the new one.
Just picked up this gen this morning to go with my 3rd gen Tacoma. Last of the true Toyotas
Toyota
There is a reason why 5th gen 4runners are flying off the lot. Got my 2024 4runner sr5p and am thoroughly enjoying it.
got the 2023 5th gen. it's got 3,000 miles on it today,,,, sr5 seems to run just fine.
tried & true never fails to start and run is why i got my 5th gen.
hope to have it for 20 years or more.
I am trying to understand! You are doing a review with top off roader TRD pro and driving on regular road and telling the features we already know?! What is the point?!
You are comparing Toyota to a Ford that stands “Found On Road Dead” 😂 come on Toyota 4life
Ford/Jeep?…hell NO.
I’ll stick to the 4Runner as it will outlast both Ford/Jeep combined.
No reason to fix what's not broken just because something new comes out later on, doesn't make it better and we've already seen that.
People got dementia today 😂
You don’t get it, the new 2025 with its 4 and turbos will be sent to the graveyard long before the death of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen.
What you say is true. It will take you on the same trail as other modern off roader but without their comfort on road and technology… but it will continue to take you on those same trails much after these modern off-roaders had become scrap metal😂
Between the Bronco and the Dinosaur the Toyota will still be on the road 20 years later
Remember folks, this is only one person's opinion - regardless how off his assessment or critique) is.