CDNG becasue the whole point of the camera is to be small. I have my rig setup with the dark power labs ssd rig, evf, and the npf battery grip. Its tiny.
@@locksleylennoxvfx I need to do a video on this. This is actually not the purpose of the camera. It is made to be scalable, the community has just made up that it’s meant to always stay small. If you look at the initial launch and marketing of the camera, it was never meant to ONLY stay “the smallest full frame camera”. Sorry that’s my soapbox, I hear it all the time in the FB groups “well that defeats the purpose of the camera” to give it size, but that’s just not the case. No offense to how you use it, I hope I don’t come off that way. It’s just a pet peeve that you addressed hahaha ❤️ ya bro!
@@Ansonandco I do know that its supposed to be scale able. But its lacking so many other features I would rather us a bigger camera like a black magic or z cam if end up having to rig it out.
I've been so curious about this camera, and so much of the material on YT hypes its DNG and says its BRAW looks bad and demonstrates it with some bad footage...then I see your video! It's beautiful. Now I'm thinking I need the FP in my life...thanks!!
How is the latency of the Blackmagic video assist/sigma fp combination? Is it good enough to pull focus on and follow moving objects? Thanks for the great video and nice examples.
Just bought an fp. I’ve been shooting with an atomos and ssd for awhile now so I’m going to try prores raw and see how I like it. Also trying to build a similar rig as yours. Wish me luck haha
@@anotherintrospekt6596 I did! I’ve shot several projects on the fp with the atomos in ProRes Raw and I like it. I’m still learning how to best expose it but it’s working well.
How's the monitoring experience? Compared to my bmpcc 6k w/ external monitor, the sigma fp w/ external monitor looks awful (not the raw image, but the monitoring image itself) which really takes away the joy of shooting. Does shooting in braw with the video assist look more like the typical bmpcc experience?
Omg YES!!! The monitor experience with the FP is TERRIBLE! But yes when you shoot in BRAW it looks like a normal BMPCC camera However, if you are referring to using the video assist as field monitor, it is still pretty terrible 😂
I have both FP and 5 inch 12g VA. I use it for two reasons. First is shooting anamorohic where I have the desqueez option, and 2nd is when I meed to shoot long sessions and need reduced files size. But its a very heavy setup. Especially with couple of large batteries for the VA. Its also has lots of wires, ssd holder, cage, handle etc. The ssd is a major thing, because for 4k DCI the internal sdcard doesnt work. So i use my WISE ssd which has its own holder Its not very elegant. So yes this camera was built to be rigged, but it sure limit its appeal and make it very clumsy setup. I prefer to use it without a cage but with a seperate wood handle, the original OVF, and powerChang ssd solution which connect very nicely to the side of the camera. That 2TB ssd gives you enough 4k shooting time at DNG. Nice video as always. Tnx!
Hi thanks for clarifying the confusion. Great video. Can you please guide me. I think SIGMA fp is a nice camera but I want to shoot a documentary with it. And I have a Sony AX33.The Sony is the best camera that I have used but it has very poor low light performance and a small sensor. Otherwise it's a great camera for run and gun shooting. I want to create a rig with the SIGMA fp that can mimic the characteristics of the Sony AX33. I think that the SIGMA fp is basically a 35mm sensor that looks like a camera. They have purposely kept it customisable because they expect you to make a rig and not use the camera straight to get a Professional Cinematic footage for delivery to a place like NETFLIX. Please guide me.
@@Ansonandco Me neither, bought the Ninja V from a buddy but haven't tried it yet Now I'm running Resolve Studio on Windows 11 Pro, so BRAW would be a way easier solution.
@@dark-california I mean if you already have it, I would say try it out, but yeah you would need to be able to transcode in Final Cut, unless premier has a plug in for it
Any of you ever had a T5 fail? I had a shoot yesterday where 2 of my fp’s repeatedly would just stop shooting and the T5 would have to reconnect “connecting”. Kinda freaked me out. Never had that before - same drives.
@@Ansonandco I did actually and it did the same - on site, swapped out the drive then it was ok. Since testing at home it hasn’t failed. Really weird. But I have heard it’s almost always the cable. Have you ever heard that you must use ONLY the Samsung cable the T5 came with?
@@sheldonnorton9035 oh yeah I’ve heard that back in my pocket 4k days and generally stick to it. I used a tilta cable once, never again. Only native cables since.
Great video as always! I just have a question regarding the image quality on the 4K DCI vs the 4K cDNG in 1:1 crop (cropping 1:1 in post). How does it look against like an ISO 12233 chart? On the fp L apparently it is lineskipped when shooting in BRAW. Would love to know if you have any information. Subbed!
@@Ansonandco I saw it in Gerald Undone’s video of the fp L in BRAW. It was producing aliased image in BRAW but not cDNG. I’m just curious if the original fp acts the same way in DCI 4K. If it produces the same image (in terms of sensor image processing, binned/oversampled) as cDNG then that would make BRAW the best choice for the fp.
@@VENAXIS so just watched the bit about BRAW. I have not noticed a ton of aliasing, but to your point he is going over the FPL which does have some additional flawed attributes than the OG. I will say BRAW is softer, but I’ve not noticed aliasing. I’ll test it though
@@VENAXIS SO I did a chart test… there’s definitely aliasing present. I need to compare it to CDNG. But it’s definitely there. Damn. May be making a retraction video 😂 I don’t think it was as bad he made it to be in his video, but again there is less going on with the OG FP sensor
I don’t really watch him anymore. But I remember he shit on the FPL hard cause he didn’t want to review and sigma asked to post opinion regardless. I turned it off cause it just sounded like he was pissed he had to make the review
@@Ansonandco Ohh really... He was quite critical,.. but he said something about the picture quality... So i thought you might as well want to see it.. as you use bRAW
@@dushyantbhatt9345 so just watched the bit about BRAW. I have not noticed a ton of aliasing, but keep in mind this is also referring to the FPL which does have some additional flawed attributes than the OG. I will say BRAW is softer, but I’ve not noticed aliasing. I’ll test it though
@@dushyantbhatt9345 SO I did a chart test… there’s definitely aliasing present. I need to compare it to CDNG. But it’s definitely there. Damn. May be making a retraction video 😂
I tend to agree… but…. Do you have with braw the same huge room to lift shadows as you have with the Sigma fp and cdng? For all the rest of reasons, I fully agree …. if you don’t have already a monitor yet … Otherwise, the monitor will cost you the same as the camera … 😊 Thanks as usual for the good info !
I have never had any issues pulling the shadows with BRAW. But an added bonus is I actually film in higher ISOs because of better overall dynamic range and the exposure tools on the video assist are not optimized for 100 ISO
@@Ansonandco Hey Anson great vid ..by the way I have the S5 and I think it has as well more DR with Braw in 5.9K vs internal 10 bit 422...maybe the 12 bit make the difference
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Do prefer BRAW or CDNG?
Cinema DNG
@@neilmarshall7805 1 point CDNG! Nice✌🏻
CDNG becasue the whole point of the camera is to be small. I have my rig setup with the dark power labs ssd rig, evf, and the npf battery grip. Its tiny.
@@locksleylennoxvfx I need to do a video on this. This is actually not the purpose of the camera. It is made to be scalable, the community has just made up that it’s meant to always stay small. If you look at the initial launch and marketing of the camera, it was never meant to ONLY stay “the smallest full frame camera”. Sorry that’s my soapbox, I hear it all the time in the FB groups “well that defeats the purpose of the camera” to give it size, but that’s just not the case.
No offense to how you use it, I hope I don’t come off that way. It’s just a pet peeve that you addressed hahaha ❤️ ya bro!
@@Ansonandco I do know that its supposed to be scale able. But its lacking so many other features I would rather us a bigger camera like a black magic or z cam if end up having to rig it out.
I've been so curious about this camera, and so much of the material on YT hypes its DNG and says its BRAW looks bad and demonstrates it with some bad footage...then I see your video! It's beautiful. Now I'm thinking I need the FP in my life...thanks!!
There are times I prefer it’s external raw for sure. I’m a fan
You can also shoot a higher framerate in FHD with the video assist: 120 fps in 12 bit raw, instead of "only" 100 fps.
Just bought a Davinci Assist, The shogun and Ninja V+. Gonna test it and upload some content! Great review!
Thanks! Please follow up when you post results ✌🏻
I have the 7" and fp, but haven't done much. Would love to hear when you choose cDNG over BRAW. Your insights are always so appreciated
I will probably make a video that is the opposite to this video, USUALLY it’s when I doing handheld super minimalist stuff
Yes do because my experience with Braw and cdng is completely the opposite.
Honestly, that looks like a great pairing. Love the images you got.
Thanks man!
Justin Phillips had sold me pretty well on FP + DCNG, but your video here is very persuasive.
CDNG is great, but I am a fan of BRAW with the FP hands down
Good job, son. Loved seeing my grandson. Savannah looked a little close to traffic-Love mom
She was fiiiiiiine lol ❤️ ya!
Hi Anson. Great video as always. Can you provide any project files shot in Braw and CDNG that can be downloaded?
How is the latency of the Blackmagic video assist/sigma fp combination? Is it good enough to pull focus on and follow moving objects? Thanks for the great video and nice examples.
Just bought an fp. I’ve been shooting with an atomos and ssd for awhile now so I’m going to try prores raw and see how I like it. Also trying to build a similar rig as yours. Wish me luck haha
I guess I need to do an update video to my rig! 😉
Did you try ?
@@anotherintrospekt6596 I did! I’ve shot several projects on the fp with the atomos in ProRes Raw and I like it. I’m still learning how to best expose it but it’s working well.
How's the monitoring experience? Compared to my bmpcc 6k w/ external monitor, the sigma fp w/ external monitor looks awful (not the raw image, but the monitoring image itself) which really takes away the joy of shooting. Does shooting in braw with the video assist look more like the typical bmpcc experience?
Omg YES!!! The monitor experience with the FP is TERRIBLE! But yes when you shoot in BRAW it looks like a normal BMPCC camera
However, if you are referring to using the video assist as field monitor, it is still pretty terrible 😂
@@Ansonandco That alone is enough reason to shoot BRAW with this camera! Thanks for sharing your results
very informative video and as always .... AWESOME b-roll
Thanks dude!
I have both FP and 5 inch 12g VA. I use it for two reasons. First is shooting anamorohic where I have the desqueez option, and 2nd is when I meed to shoot long sessions and need reduced files size.
But its a very heavy setup. Especially with couple of large batteries for the VA. Its also has lots of wires, ssd holder, cage, handle etc.
The ssd is a major thing, because for 4k DCI the internal sdcard doesnt work. So i use my WISE ssd which has its own holder
Its not very elegant.
So yes this camera was built to be rigged, but it sure limit its appeal and make it very clumsy setup.
I prefer to use it without a cage but with a seperate wood handle, the original OVF, and powerChang ssd solution which connect very nicely to the side of the camera.
That 2TB ssd gives you enough 4k shooting time at DNG.
Nice video as always. Tnx!
Hi thanks for clarifying the confusion. Great video. Can you please guide me. I think SIGMA fp is a nice camera but I want to shoot a documentary with it. And I have a Sony AX33.The Sony is the best camera that I have used but it has very poor low light performance and a small sensor. Otherwise it's a great camera for run and gun shooting. I want to create a rig with the SIGMA fp that can mimic the characteristics of the Sony AX33. I think that the SIGMA fp is basically a 35mm sensor that looks like a camera. They have purposely kept it customisable because they expect you to make a rig and not use the camera straight to get a Professional Cinematic footage for delivery to a place like NETFLIX. Please guide me.
This seems like a good spot to ask. When recording braw, does the BMVA 5 12G also record the L&R sound channel from the FP via HDMI?
Yes it does!
@@Ansonandco awesome. Thanks
Hello bro..how can i use the sigma autofocus...its hard to understand😢
Honestly fp AF is absolutely terrible. Unusable IMO. You have a somewhat decent shot with one shot AF, outside of that 🤷🏼♀️ mine stays in MF
Awesome video
Do you also shoot BRAW with the S5 ?
I have a Ninja V here but might change to the BM Video Assist
I’ve shot BRAW a couple
Of times with the s5 to get 5.9k BRAW. It’s not bad at all
@@Ansonandco Did you tried ProRes RAW vs BRAW ?
Thing is you need to go Mac + FCPX
Premiere Pro seems to be outdated
@@dark-california never worked with pro res raw
@@Ansonandco Me neither, bought the Ninja V from a buddy but haven't tried it yet
Now I'm running Resolve Studio on Windows 11 Pro, so BRAW would be a way easier solution.
@@dark-california I mean if you already have it, I would say try it out, but yeah you would need to be able to transcode in Final Cut, unless premier has a plug in for it
So how much storage would I need to shoot one hour of cinema dng vs braw?
How much recording time would a tb ssd give me
Any of you ever had a T5 fail? I had a shoot yesterday where 2 of my fp’s repeatedly would just stop shooting and the T5 would have to reconnect “connecting”. Kinda freaked me out. Never had that before - same drives.
I would say it was the cable, did you try changing it out?
@@Ansonandco I did actually and it did the same - on site, swapped out the drive then it was ok. Since testing at home it hasn’t failed. Really weird. But I have heard it’s almost always the cable. Have you ever heard that you must use ONLY the Samsung cable the T5 came with?
@@sheldonnorton9035 oh yeah I’ve heard that back in my pocket 4k days and generally stick to it. I used a tilta cable once, never again. Only native cables since.
@@Ansonandco Thanks very much for your
time! Long live the fp!!
Great video as always! I just have a question regarding the image quality on the 4K DCI vs the 4K cDNG in 1:1 crop (cropping 1:1 in post). How does it look against like an ISO 12233 chart? On the fp L apparently it is lineskipped when shooting in BRAW. Would love to know if you have any information. Subbed!
I will have to try it out, I’ve only ever heard of line skipping in 1080 with the FP. Do you know where you saw 4k DCI line skipping?
@@Ansonandco I saw it in Gerald Undone’s video of the fp L in BRAW. It was producing aliased image in BRAW but not cDNG. I’m just curious if the original fp acts the same way in DCI 4K. If it produces the same image (in terms of sensor image processing, binned/oversampled) as cDNG then that would make BRAW the best choice for the fp.
@@VENAXIS so just watched the bit about BRAW. I have not noticed a ton of aliasing, but to your point he is going over the FPL which does have some additional flawed attributes than the OG. I will say BRAW is softer, but I’ve not noticed aliasing. I’ll test it though
@@Ansonandco yeah that might be the case. Thanks! No worries if you can’t, I appreciate the quick replies 🙏🏻
@@VENAXIS SO I did a chart test… there’s definitely aliasing present. I need to compare it to CDNG. But it’s definitely there. Damn. May be making a retraction video 😂
I don’t think it was as bad he made it to be in his video, but again there is less going on with the OG FP sensor
Hey,. Did you see Gerald undone video for the Sigma FP - bRAW
I don’t really watch him anymore. But I remember he shit on the FPL hard cause he didn’t want to review and sigma asked to post opinion regardless. I turned it off cause it just sounded like he was pissed he had to make the review
@@Ansonandco Ohh really... He was quite critical,.. but he said something about the picture quality... So i thought you might as well want to see it.. as you use bRAW
@@dushyantbhatt9345 oh I’m curious, I’ll definitely check it out
@@dushyantbhatt9345 so just watched the bit about BRAW. I have not noticed a ton of aliasing, but keep in mind this is also referring to the FPL which does have some additional flawed attributes than the OG. I will say BRAW is softer, but I’ve not noticed aliasing. I’ll test it though
@@dushyantbhatt9345 SO I did a chart test… there’s definitely aliasing present. I need to compare it to CDNG. But it’s definitely there. Damn. May be making a retraction video 😂
Can you do slow motion in B raw?
Same as the with the CDNG out of the fp. Only in 1080
I wish Panasonic would enable CinemaDNG out of the USB C port on the S1H. It makes me sometimes regret getting it over the FP.
Interesting. Have you tried ProRes RAW with a Ninja V? That's how I use my fp and I love it.
I have not! I am not a fan of FCPX and so I have always stayed away from ProRes raw
Me too, working with Resolve so Prores raw is not an option …
I notice you typically shoot 12:1 in BRAW. Is there no option for 8:1, 5:1, or 3:1?
He wants to reduce file size
Bought my FP with an video assist 12g specifically to shoot braw. No regrets.
Honestly the image is just fantastic! Did you go with the 5” or 7”?
@@Ansonandco With the 7"! I wanted the mini-xlr and someone in my city was selling it used for 775 USD, it was a steal.
@@glevasseur nice! I tried the 7” for a while but it was too big for me. I felt like I was massively dwarfing the camera 😂 but I do miss the mini XLR
@@Ansonandco I got used to it pretty quickly haha! All rigged up it isn't so bad I think. And now when I use a 5" monitor I find it way too small haha
I really need to go back to the 7”, not having to deal with a separate pre amp would save me so much time.
I shot with the BM assist and FP the other day. I noticed I couldn't use the false color on the FP. is this normal?
You cannot use a lot of the internal tools while it’s transmitting to the video assist. But the video assist has decent false color as well
@@Ansonandco okay cool that helps. Last question. What’s the input color space for braw in davinci? Is Vlog and v gamut or black magic?
@@jaysnappsmediallc blackmagic for sure
@@Ansonandco thanks, 5 gen?
@@jaysnappsmediallc Yup!
I tend to agree… but…. Do you have with braw the same huge room to lift shadows as you have with the Sigma fp and cdng? For all the rest of reasons, I fully agree …. if you don’t have already a monitor yet … Otherwise, the monitor will cost you the same as the camera … 😊 Thanks as usual for the good info !
I have never had any issues pulling the shadows with BRAW. But an added bonus is I actually film in higher ISOs because of better overall dynamic range and the exposure tools on the video assist are not optimized for 100 ISO
@@Ansonandco Hey Anson great vid
..by the way I have the S5 and I think it has as well more DR with Braw in 5.9K vs internal 10 bit 422...maybe the 12 bit make the difference
@@filipmichalsaffray441 I think it might! 12 bit can help things for sure
Thanks ! 😊
@@joaquinperalba1624 of course!
Does this work with the fp L?
It does!
Is sigma fp support Braw? I thought it can only shoot cdng
It can shoot BRAW and pro res raw to external recorders
Are all this 12 bit BRAW?😮
Yes
The bird blessed him live on set 😂.
He really did 😂
I prefer The Devil Weras prada hoodie.
It’s one of my favorites 😉
Should just buy a blackmagic camera if you want braw
What luts?
Any
Nice sir
Thanks Ajay!
Dude, you lost me when you pushed the LGxyz agenda as normal. Unsubbed.
Imagine it being 2024 and you think that footage of a loving couple is “an agenda” I feel sorry for you. Please do unsub ✌🏻