You and I are of like minds on this camera. It is so good in terms of value for money, all the “problems” that people whine about can be solved with less than the balance of what they would spend anyway on some high-end DSLR or canon/red/bm/sony/etc. rig. Additionally, the added bonus is that you are not committed to one solution to solve any problems you mention like rolling shutter or audio. I also love the fact that you bring up Sigma’s stellar adapters, you can mount lots of glass to this camera with the caveat that AF will either be non-existent or degraded - but if you get a gimbal like RS3 pro, you can pull focus with your phone (or LIDAR). On the audio, I will say “zoom” kinda screwed those of us that are F8n owners, they dropped support then came out with a new F8 with no upgrade path, but if you need affordable bullet proof audio an F6 or F3 is the ticket (once again, value for money).
Exactly! It is an amazing value for money solution. And what’s funny is other high end cameras have these same problems. The red Komodo has a 3.5mm mic jack, and is tiny and so micro jitters are definitely there. As far as LiDAR, you may not even need an DJI gimbal… stay tuned 😉
Hi Anson, I am toying around with two fp/fpL rigs. On my cine rig, I mounted a smallrig top handle which has four cold shoe points. Using the two side cold shoe mounts on the handle, I mounted two elastic shock mounts for my nice small condenser mics. Then I used a smallrig monitor mount to mount the zoom f3 on the handle. I know this may seem overkill, to mount two mics. The thing is, I like the idea of stereo sound. The mics and the f3 can easily be removed for different audio setups. I tried this because I already had a stereo set of mics, but maybe a single stereo shotgun mic would better, just one mic would suffice. Still, this was fun to try. Perhaps I will put up a video of my rig so you can see. It is kinda wild! I don’t have a v-mount battery, but at least I can plug everything into a power strip if I want, otherwise everything is battery powered. The battery life on the f3 totally sucks! If I mount the monitor on the other end of the handle, it sure looks interesting to say the least. It sure costs a lot to get rigged out!
Oh man… 2024 rig update, challenge accepted! I would have to figure out how I would rig it out first lol, I keep everything pretty compact 98% of the time. But let me see what I can do 😉 Also thanks for the super thanks! ❤️
Question: Do you add the audio from the f3 in post edit, or do you go from the f3 output to fp audio/mic input? The reason I ask is, you can’t bypass the camera preamps by simply plugging in an external mic or plugging in the f3 to the camera. So, you have to add the sound in post editing and sync it up. The camera pres are hissy.
Thank you for your videos, really love your rig setup. Please Please Please, at some point, can you do a video on how you handle manual focus, that is the toughest part of owning the fp for me.
1. How do you sync audio? No timecode? (I use the aux out from my audio recorder to the Ninja V or FP audio-in, so I have audio with the video already, but can manually sync in the better quality audio from the recorder if I need to. 2. With a massive battery like that, why not power the BMVA with it as well? 3. No focus-puller? You have a cine lens and rods in place already?
1. Honestly I typically pass the audio through to the FP. Otherwise yes I would sync in post. 2. Honestly I haven’t found a good cable management solution for it. I’m not opposed to it, but I hate a bunch of cables and so I just don’t connect it to the v mount. 3. I prefer to pull focus by hand. So I tend not to use a follow focus unit.
@@rovingearth7028 I use a Smallrig NP plate with three separate outputs to power an fp, a Ninja V and a MixPre 6. Works nicely. In what situation is the ground loop a possibility?
Loving this rig set up. I'm working on a GH6 documentary rig, and would love to know if the F3 gets in the way or just is annoying to work around or not?
@Ansonandco I've thought about it, but the F3 has that 32-bit float which could be nice. Also heard that the xlr adapter didn't sound great compared to a dedicated field recorder
I have a SIGMA fp. Would like a buy a dummy battery for the fp that takes power from an external battery via D-Tap (P-Tap). There don't seem to be many options currently available, but POWRIG is one of them. I see that you've been using this adapter (2:22). After more than a year of use, are you still liking it?
Great video! Is a Samsung T5 500GB good enough for your workflow? How much time can you record in 4K 12 bits? I'm receiving a 1 to T5 and thinking about the right rig for my FP. Thanks!
Question: Are you plugging in the zoom f3 into the 3.5mm Jack on the sigma Fp? Then you are getting redundant recording on the f3 along with the baked in audio from the f3 out? Thanks!
I do plug the f3 in and it is baked in, I haven’t tried recording to the sd card on the f3 yet but I don’t see anything that should prevent redundant audio recording
Cool rig. Q: How can you access any settings on the camera when you have the display "blocked" (not being able to see it) with gear? What monitor allows to control Sigma FP settings via cable? Nobody every talks about this in these rig videos where they "block" the display. I'm confused...could anyone shed some light please?
So, just to be clear, you're passing the audio through the Zoom F3 to the SIGMA fp? Or just recording your audio separately to the F3 and syncing in post?
Solid setup here. I didn’t realize how small the f3 was. Works nicely with the rig. So when you run a line to the 3.5mm Jack so you can bake in the audio, are you able to split the audio tracks in post? Additionally, how is the timecode workflow? Thanks!
Hi Anson, great video dude!! I have one small doubt, how do you handle brightness when shooting at day time with the video recorder? I know that monitor only has like 500 nits of brightness, so I am curious how you can see anything in a very sunny day. I use a 1000 nits monitor and I can barely see anything during the day (its always a nightmare for me)
Hello, I have the Sigma FP and I usually use it with a Samsung T5 SSD, but I recently noticed that it only works well in 12 bits with a USB-C cable, while all the others don't work properly (the recordings cut out). Do you know anything about this?
@@Ansonandco I am using Samsung T5 drive cable. Now I bought a cable from Amazon that supposedly supports a data transfer speed of up to 40 Gbps, I will try it tomorrow, but I don't feel very optimistic.
@@nicolasaguilera8713 yeah I’ve found it doesn’t work well with 3rd party options. You may want to consider switching over to the sandisk or Lacie drives
Hey There!! I'm really following for couple of months, after takng my Sigma Fp.. Like going for a project me only, no one for help.. I'm facing issue for the autofocus using my Gimbal shots.. Can you help me to fix this isuue, Please..
I think at the time the sigma fp had lost steam and so they stopped manufacturing stuff for it. And then they partnered with sigma for a completely new cage design, which probably does not cater to that side clamp design anymore
What was the model number on that cable clamp? I was *finally* able to find the original Smallrig cage (CCM2518) used through Adorama, so I'm feeling lucky!
Anson, you created perfection! I recently became the owner of this wonderful camera and I really like it. I easily figured it out, because I have experience with different cameras. But one thing is not clear to me: why is there dng 8 bits? It’s clear to me when dng is 10 or 12 bits, but why 8, there still won’t be such a color depth. It's like a bad jpeg sequence. Maybe I don’t know something about dng 8 bit and it has a special meaning? Could you tell about it as a guru of this camera?
Thanks so much! I don’t know why 8bit is an option, other than offering a DNG offering to SD cards. I personally use it when I’m in a pinch and want to not record to an SSD. If you expose in camera it does a pretty decent job
@@Ansonandco Thanks for the answer! In my opinion, if it is not possible to take an SSD with you and you need to record inside the camera, then it is better to use mov all-i, for example, in the portrait color mode, it gives such a soft and pleasant image. It will probably even be better than DNG 8 bit and will weigh less.
@@Ansonandco There are no secrets) I leave all the settings by default. I use only native ISOs - 100 or 3200. I also plan to try to process the captured all-i into the Film Convert, I think FC should cope and get a good picture.
@@Ansonandco Yeah man. I was thinking about getting a Sony FX30 but, despite being more "functional", the image just doesn't compare. Plus, I could probably pick up a used FP for a little over $1000 US($1500 here in Canada). I know, I know. It all depends on what you're shooting, but it's hard not to fall in love with the FP image. IMO, it seems the only cameras that the image compares to are Arri, RED and high-end Sony (Venice etc). Hard to believe in a sub $2000 camera.👍
What is the most valued part of your rig? (Excluding camera and lens)
Mid/Side microphone setup :)
Just got my FP yesterday. Definitely gonna work on building it out!
Congrats! I love building out the FP, it’s so gratifying
Excellent set up if I do say so myself 😍
Thanks! It has absolutely changed the way I shoot with this tiny workhorse 😉 I love every bit of it
Yeah buddy! This is what I wanted to see. One thing I was looking at as the ef to L vnd from frotodiox to handle NDs. Love the video!
Thanks! I am really intrigued by adapters with VND, but I’m always skeptical on how good the NDs are going to be
great rig! nice audio solution, could add on some nice rosette front handles for a great chest-supported handheld setup
Thanks!
this is the rig i am working towards. i also want to get the dji lidar focus pro. the zoom f3 is a game changer. this is a beautiful set up.
Love it, the Zoom for audio is a great touch of excellence. Great video as always.
Thanks dude! It really has helped a ton, and the majority of the time it’s just passing audio TO the fp
@@Ansonandco Another option would be the 7" Video Assist that has audio preamps built in.
You and I are of like minds on this camera. It is so good in terms of value for money, all the “problems” that people whine about can be solved with less than the balance of what they would spend anyway on some high-end DSLR or canon/red/bm/sony/etc. rig. Additionally, the added bonus is that you are not committed to one solution to solve any problems you mention like rolling shutter or audio. I also love the fact that you bring up Sigma’s stellar adapters, you can mount lots of glass to this camera with the caveat that AF will either be non-existent or degraded - but if you get a gimbal like RS3 pro, you can pull focus with your phone (or LIDAR). On the audio, I will say “zoom” kinda screwed those of us that are F8n owners, they dropped support then came out with a new F8 with no upgrade path, but if you need affordable bullet proof audio an F6 or F3 is the ticket (once again, value for money).
Exactly! It is an amazing value for money solution. And what’s funny is other high end cameras have these same problems. The red Komodo has a 3.5mm mic jack, and is tiny and so micro jitters are definitely there.
As far as LiDAR, you may not even need an DJI gimbal… stay tuned 😉
@@Ansonandco read another chinese company as lidar solution without a gimbal.
do you know? it's called power...and somethiong.
Hey Anson - Do you run audio out of the F3 and into the FP with a 3.5mm TRS jack, or just record separately and sync in post?
It depends on the project, but 99% of the time I run it to the FP.
Love it! I like how you answered everything for the camera. Truly built out to solve problems. Well done! I may pick up that zoom F3
Thanks dude! It really has been game changer
Hi Anson, I am toying around with two fp/fpL rigs. On my cine rig, I mounted a smallrig top handle which has four cold shoe points. Using the two side cold shoe mounts on the handle, I mounted two elastic shock mounts for my nice small condenser mics. Then I used a smallrig monitor mount to mount the zoom f3 on the handle. I know this may seem overkill, to mount two mics. The thing is, I like the idea of stereo sound. The mics and the f3 can easily be removed for different audio setups. I tried this because I already had a stereo set of mics, but maybe a single stereo shotgun mic would better, just one mic would suffice. Still, this was fun to try. Perhaps I will put up a video of my rig so you can see. It is kinda wild! I don’t have a v-mount battery, but at least I can plug everything into a power strip if I want, otherwise everything is battery powered. The battery life on the f3 totally sucks! If I mount the monitor on the other end of the handle, it sure looks interesting to say the least. It sure costs a lot to get rigged out!
Clean & compact.
Thanks dude
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These videos are always the best! You should make a video on a full blown feature film style rig with the Sigma FP! Toss out the compact aspect.
Oh man… 2024 rig update, challenge accepted! I would have to figure out how I would rig it out first lol, I keep everything pretty compact 98% of the time. But let me see what I can do 😉
Also thanks for the super thanks! ❤️
@@Ansonandco Step 1: Find a beautiful anamorphic lens
Step 2: Everything else
@@Sleepattle 😂 I like it
Dope video man.. I wonder if I can apply some of these things to my S9.. Hmmmmm.
Great set-up! Looking for other ways to rig up my Sony FX30 because the top handle can be a little flimsy.
Question: Do you add the audio from the f3 in post edit, or do you go from the f3 output to fp audio/mic input? The reason I ask is, you can’t bypass the camera preamps by simply plugging in an external mic or plugging in the f3 to the camera. So, you have to add the sound in post editing and sync it up. The camera pres are hissy.
Thank you for your videos, really love your rig setup. Please Please Please, at some point, can you do a video on how you handle manual focus, that is the toughest part of owning the fp for me.
I use a Tilta handle.
It looks amazing!! How heavy is it fully loaded??
Thanks dude! I would say somewhere in the ballpark of 10lbs
1. How do you sync audio? No timecode? (I use the aux out from my audio recorder to the Ninja V or FP audio-in, so I have audio with the video already, but can manually sync in the better quality audio from the recorder if I need to.
2. With a massive battery like that, why not power the BMVA with it as well?
3. No focus-puller? You have a cine lens and rods in place already?
1. Honestly I typically pass the audio through to the FP. Otherwise yes I would sync in post.
2. Honestly I haven’t found a good cable management solution for it. I’m not opposed to it, but I hate a bunch of cables and so I just don’t connect it to the v mount.
3. I prefer to pull focus by hand. So I tend not to use a follow focus unit.
Don’t forget about the possible ground loop shortage that could occur powering monitor and camera off of the same source.
@@rovingearth7028 I use a Smallrig NP plate with three separate outputs to power an fp, a Ninja V and a MixPre 6. Works nicely. In what situation is the ground loop a possibility?
@@rovingearth7028 Yeah, the ground loop thing is annoying. I just use the camera audio as a scratch track.
Very interesting:) i just have the Sigma fp . Smal Rig + Lens .. but that will be my next ungrad cuose i take more ceni
Loving this rig set up. I'm working on a GH6 documentary rig, and would love to know if the F3 gets in the way or just is annoying to work around or not?
It doesn’t get in the way, but if I were building this with the gh6 I would use lumix’s XLR accessory, I loved using that thing when I had it
@Ansonandco I've thought about it, but the F3 has that 32-bit float which could be nice.
Also heard that the xlr adapter didn't sound great compared to a dedicated field recorder
Looks great! Do you have a video about grading braw from the FP? I had a look, but can't really find one.
I do not have a BRAW grading at this time. But probably coming soon
I like to use Davinci Wide Gamut color managed.
I have a SIGMA fp. Would like a buy a dummy battery for the fp that takes power from an external battery via D-Tap (P-Tap). There don't seem to be many options currently available, but POWRIG is one of them. I see that you've been using this adapter (2:22). After more than a year of use, are you still liking it?
It is still my go to for powering the rig for sure
Great video! Is a Samsung T5 500GB good enough for your workflow? How much time can you record in 4K 12 bits? I'm receiving a 1 to T5 and thinking about the right rig for my FP. Thanks!
1TB is typically my go to. Usually get a little over an hour
Question:
Are you plugging in the zoom f3 into the 3.5mm Jack on the sigma Fp?
Then you are getting redundant recording on the f3 along with the baked in audio from the f3 out?
Thanks!
I do plug the f3 in and it is baked in, I haven’t tried recording to the sd card on the f3 yet but I don’t see anything that should prevent redundant audio recording
@@Ansonandco ok, and that audio that’s baked in is recorded at 32 bit float, meaning you have next-to unlimited flexibility in post to dial in levels?
@@flochfitness I don’t know if the audio in the FP is 32bit float, but yes the f3 does allow for that
@@Ansonandco good to know. So you still monitor the audio with headphones and make sure nothing is peaking when using the f3?
Nice rig. I’m jealous
Cool rig. Q: How can you access any settings on the camera when you have the display "blocked" (not being able to see it) with gear? What monitor allows to control Sigma FP settings via cable? Nobody every talks about this in these rig videos where they "block" the display. I'm confused...could anyone shed some light please?
Does the battery mount limit access to the rear of the camera, and how do you get around this, if it is an issue?
Not really. I can what’s going on on the screen and i have full access to buttons
So, just to be clear, you're passing the audio through the Zoom F3 to the SIGMA fp? Or just recording your audio separately to the F3 and syncing in post?
Solid setup here.
I didn’t realize how small the f3 was. Works nicely with the rig.
So when you run a line to the 3.5mm Jack so you can bake in the audio, are you able to split the audio tracks in post?
Additionally, how is the timecode workflow?
Thanks!
Any recommendations for a cage since SmallRig discontinued their cages?
8sinn makes a good FP cage. Probably that one
Thank you! Appreciate that!
Hi Anson, great video dude!!
I have one small doubt, how do you handle brightness when shooting at day time with the video recorder? I know that monitor only has like 500 nits of brightness, so I am curious how you can see anything in a very sunny day. I use a 1000 nits monitor and I can barely see anything during the day (its always a nightmare for me)
Thanks! I think that is the nits for the old 3G recorders. This 12G has 2500 nits, very bright. Kills the battery on the recorder, but VERY bright.
@@Ansonandco ahh ok, that explains it, with that brightness level you can shoot in almost any condition:)
@@theflowowl lol you really can
Hello, I have the Sigma FP and I usually use it with a Samsung T5 SSD, but I recently noticed that it only works well in 12 bits with a USB-C cable, while all the others don't work properly (the recordings cut out). Do you know anything about this?
I have that same issue. Are you using the cable it came with?
@@Ansonandco I am using Samsung T5 drive cable. Now I bought a cable from Amazon that supposedly supports a data transfer speed of up to 40 Gbps, I will try it tomorrow, but I don't feel very optimistic.
@@nicolasaguilera8713 yeah I’ve found it doesn’t work well with 3rd party options. You may want to consider switching over to the sandisk or Lacie drives
I see you are using 50mm T1.5 lens can you tell me what lens is it?
SIGMA high speed prime cine lens
@@Ansonandco thanks
Hey There!! I'm really following for couple of months, after takng my Sigma Fp.. Like going for a project me only, no one for help.. I'm facing issue for the autofocus using my Gimbal shots.. Can you help me to fix this isuue, Please..
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Cool. Our rigs are pretty similar. Mine is bigger though, haha :)
I really wish smallrig would make those clamps again. Doesn't make sense why they stopped making them.
I think at the time the sigma fp had lost steam and so they stopped manufacturing stuff for it. And then they partnered with sigma for a completely new cage design, which probably does not cater to that side clamp design anymore
What was the model number on that cable clamp? I was *finally* able to find the original Smallrig cage (CCM2518) used through Adorama, so I'm feeling lucky!
Anson, you created perfection! I recently became the owner of this wonderful camera and I really like it. I easily figured it out, because I have experience with different cameras. But one thing is not clear to me: why is there dng 8 bits? It’s clear to me when dng is 10 or 12 bits, but why 8, there still won’t be such a color depth. It's like a bad jpeg sequence. Maybe I don’t know something about dng 8 bit and it has a special meaning? Could you tell about it as a guru of this camera?
Thanks so much!
I don’t know why 8bit is an option, other than offering a DNG offering to SD cards. I personally use it when I’m in a pinch and want to not record to an SSD. If you expose in camera it does a pretty decent job
@@Ansonandco Thanks for the answer! In my opinion, if it is not possible to take an SSD with you and you need to record inside the camera, then it is better to use mov all-i, for example, in the portrait color mode, it gives such a soft and pleasant image. It will probably even be better than DNG 8 bit and will weigh less.
@@arthurkravtsovchannel share your secrets! My all-I footage always looks terrible
@@Ansonandco There are no secrets) I leave all the settings by default. I use only native ISOs - 100 or 3200. I also plan to try to process the captured all-i into the Film Convert, I think FC should cope and get a good picture.
@@arthurkravtsovchannel need to try it out. I’ve never given all-I a chance
BTA-1 Bluetooth adapter?
Tilta mirage matte box
I wish it were better. Not having hard stops to the ND ruined a bunch of footage
@@Ansonandco use 95mm Vaxis IRND instead.
Looks like the SMALLRIG 843 is also discontinued. :(
Is that the cage or the rod adapter?
@@Ansonandco It's that rod adapter. But you can still find it from 3rd party sellers. Camvate also makes those.
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Just kidding! Nice b-roll! :)
😂😂😂 had to give it a break this week 😉
Thanks dude!
I'm always so blown away at the images produced by the Sigma fp. You'd think the footage was from a much higher-end camera.
That is definitely what has kept me coming back to this camera
@@Ansonandco Yeah man. I was thinking about getting a Sony FX30 but, despite being more "functional", the image just doesn't compare. Plus, I could probably pick up a used FP for a little over $1000 US($1500 here in Canada). I know, I know. It all depends on what you're shooting, but it's hard not to fall in love with the FP image. IMO, it seems the only cameras that the image compares to are Arri, RED and high-end Sony (Venice etc). Hard to believe in a sub $2000 camera.👍