The History of the Kra-Dai (Tai-Kadai) Languages
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The Kra-Dai languages, also known as the Tai-Kadai languages, are a language family widely spoken across southern China and Mainland Southeast Asia. The Tai branch, which contains Thai and Lao, constitutes the bulk of the family.
These languages are tonal. They also share many lexical similarities with the Chinese languages due to centuries of language contact. There are also hypotheses proposing that Kra-Dai may be related to the Austronesian or Hmong-Mien families.
This video presents the history and evolution of the Kra-Dai languages from 2000 BCE to the present.
Disclaimer: all dates are approximations, and there are many hypotheses regarding the development and classification of these languages that are not represented in this video.
Music by Brandon Fiechter
• Thai Folk Music - Khao...
Love from Northeast India (Manipur)
Love you all Tai family
ꯌꯥꯏꯐꯔꯦ
Khop chau kha (Thank you in Tai Ahom)
@@Whimsy_muse Wow I’m tai Lao and I understood too east. Very same :)
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I'm proud of you for made this video :) 🇱🇦🇹🇭
Although not written in the box, but i guess the westernmost Kra-Dai language is Ahom which is shaded near the Brahmaputra river of NE India. They had a huge empire there until the advent of the British.
Yes. They are Tai Ahom.
I am from Tai Ahom community in NE Assam, India
@@user-bl6ol4lh8u what do you mean by why ??
@@rayugauzumaki1981 i mean why is tai ahom and northeastern India is belonging to Indian country . the land it's not even attached with the india country . i think your tai ahom needs to bringing UN for talk . you needs to breaking off from India to be name of your own country . i love you tai brother .
@@user-bl6ol4lh8u it is attached with India . We are not facing any problem here and also we have freedom do anything we want so why not . If there were any problem we would have done that . And by the way we are happy to be called as Indian
You're the most underrated mapper. Hope you'll get more views in the future.
Yeah, it's sad that a talented mapper isn't getting the views that he deserves.
I'm so sad that he gets much lower views than the effort he put into for this masterpiece.
Whats ?
agree
Soo true
I am very pleased with your tremendous work. I hope to see more come! 👏 👏 👏
ขอบคุณครับ (Thanks you) from Thailand
ok , thanks for your sharing information. ดีใจที่คุณเอามาลงนะ
I’m Thai and appreciate it! Kra-Dai is not famous and less known unlike other larger language families. Formerly, Kra-Dai (formerly known as Tai-Kadai) was considered to be part of Sino-Tibetan (formerly known as Tibeto-Chinese) together with Vietnamese and Hmong-Mien, but from the current linguistic and genetic evidences, Kra-Dai seems to be distantly related to Austronesian rather than Sino-Tibetan.
There are 2 hypothesis about the origin of Kra-Dai: 1) Kra-Dai split from Austronesian before the Proto-Austronesians migrated to Taiwan or 2) Kra-Dai migrated from the Philippines back to the mainland China via Hainan and was highly sinicized. That’s why modern Thais, Lao and other Tai ethnic groups look like Austronesians in appearances and customs (tattooing, sailing skills and water culture), especially the Filippinos despite of geographic distance.
Tai languages also share many cognates with Austronesian languages but Tai is monosyllabic and tonal. Comparing Thai to Austronesian, similarities are remarkable in basic vocabs indicating cognates rather than loanwords:
- ตา ta - mata (eye)
- ตาย tay - matay (to die)
- นก nok - manok (bird)
- กิน kin - kain (to eat)
- ดื่ม düm - inom (to drink)
- แดด dæt - init (sun)
- เดือน *blwan - buwan, bulan (moon)
- ดอก *blok - bulaklak (flower)
- น้ำ nam - danom (water)
- ไฟ fay - apoy (fire)
- ฟัน fan - ngipin (teeth)
- มือ mü - lima (hand)
- นี้ ni - ini (this)
- นั้น nan - iyan (that)
- โน้น non - iyon (that beyond)
- กู ku - aku, ako (I, me)
- มึง *mü - kamu, mo (you)
*Proto-Tai
The first hypothesis seems more likely to me.
"Filipino" is a nationality, not an ethnic group
also, u seem to have used tagalog to compare with thai terms. "init" means hot in tagalog, not sun. sun is "araw". แดด dæt sounds more like how sun is said in philippine hokkien chinese "di̍t (日)". "danom" is not tagalog. water is "tubig" in tagalog. tho "danom" does exist as water in other austronesian languages in the philippines. "lima" does not mean hand in tagalog. "lima" means five in tagalog. "kamay" is hand in tagalog. "ini" is also not tagalog. "ito" is this in tagalog. "iyan" does mean that (close to the speaker) in tagalog, but i think "niyan" with roughly the same meaning might sound closer to นั้น nan. "iyon" also does mean that (far from the speaker) in tagalog, but i think "niyon" sounds closer to โน้น non, plus these days, people in ph do sometimes shorten it to non or nun.
@@xXxSkyViperxXx Yes, you’re right. I’d rather use the term ‘Philippine languages’ instead of specific term Tagalog or Filippino. Thank you.
สุดยอดครับ
2 brothers: one on land downsouth, one on sea downsouth
Loved this video! I learned a lot from it about my ancestry.
The probability that the Tai-Kradai people are made up from at least two more ethnics is pretty high. The Tày who are an Eastern Tai ethnic live in the Northeast Vietnam have this interesting legend about the creation of themselves. There were two different friends from two different places met. They were hunters and gatherers at first and together they found the rice plant. One day, they were sad to see different tribes just fought and killed each other endlessly so they made a vow to never fight with each other even if how different people might be and so that's how the Tày were born. Btw, Tày also called themselves Tai (means freed, peaceful people) but in Vietnamese, Tai means ear so we call them Tày to not be confused. The Tày also consider the Nùng as one like them. The Nùng is the Eastern Tai newly migrated from China specific Guangxi, Tày is the Tai natives in Vietnam. They are known for stories that teach people kindness and having mercy
What an amazing VDO!
Amazing Video
Very interesting video!
Fantastic map and music thanks you from Thailand.
Great work. Are you thinking of doing Austroasiatic and Hmong Mien later to complete south China?
Thanks! Austroasiatic is either my next video or the one after. I'm not so sure about Hmong-Mien yet because it hasn't been requested very much and my last couple videos have done quite poorly.
@@TheDragonHistorian Cantonese Is Kra-Dai Languages
@Sir Lancelet Ok Is In The South Of China But Me I Think Is Kra Dai And You Say Is Sino-Tibetan 😂Sorry
your meows never had an empire or Kingdom or country or history . meows just a wood jungle abes been kicked out from china mountain then slided down to north mountains of fews Southeast tai country from 80 years ago . peoples start knowing meows peoples after meows refugee from lao in usa . then you meows meows meows start put up a loud speaker there . even hmong name never have been found and never heard from history until meows made it up in usa
@@joaquinalfajor4386 Cantonese is Sinitic, though with a noticeable Kradai substratum
Hi, Dragon Historian.
We are an undergraduate team from SISU(Shanghai International Studies University). We are recently working on a project about a brief introduction video of the Sino-Tibetan languages’ history.
Your video briefly and concisely gave us a clear outlook of the Sinitic (Chinese) Languages and the Kra-Dai (Tai-Kadai) Languages. We are wondering whether could we use your videos for study purposes and use a few of your video clips in our introduction video?
We will cite you as a source at the end of our video!!
Hi Stephanie! While I would be honored to have my videos featured in your project, I'm not sure they are quite up to standard for being included in undergraduate research. I am just an amateur and there are probably many flaws in my videos. I am completely fine with you using them, but keep in mind that they may not be the best sources to cite. Thanks!
@@TheDragonHistorian Thanks for your allowance!! That will be of great help to our project!!! Thanks for your reminder, we may quote it at the end of our project to remind our audience! Many thanks~~~
@@TheDragonHistorian you made the CCP happy
@@Ck-zk3we racist spotted
@@Ck-zk3wewhy you triggered?
More research needs to be done on this family because it shows striking similarities with Austronesian
We were Austronesians who stayed on the mainland and interbred with Sinitic people and other groups but maintain our core language that later became tonal and monosyllabic after the proto Kra languages like Gelao and Buyang.
Wow. Incredible lang mapping!
Also, for some weird random reason, the music kind of reminds me of Earthbound.
Isan music style (North-eastern Thailand).
Love your channel ! Hope one day you'll make languages of Caucasus region .. ( Will be challenging though ) ..
Can you explain the border choice for the proto-kra language, seems quite well defined? Any reason?
Hello, I like your video very much! There's not so much video about Kra-Dai on RUclips. :D
But a little bit problem I suggest, I think the map is a bit too much depend on modern distribution of Kra-Dai, especially those in China. It should be much wider spread in the history: Late until 9th century, medival Chinese document has recorded Kra-Dai vocabulary in Enping county, Guangdong province, which is just in the west of Canton city. We can suggest that Kra-Dai language existed in lower Pearl River basin at least until 9th or 10th century.
Your videos are awesome. Could you make a video about the history of the Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer) languages please?
Interesting how Hainan used to be a Tai-Kadai island. I guess moving to Southeast Asia was the best thing the group has done since it dominated there while those that remained in southern China got dominated by Chinese languages.
Yeah kinda how Taiwan was and still is an Austronesian island
@@jakubpociecha8819 Oh yeah, Austronesian had a similar story. Taiwan used to be the homeland of the Austronesian languages then it moved southwards to the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and westward/eastward to the Pacific/Madagascar where it has been dominant ever since (except for Hawaii, New Zealand and some smaller islands which got Europeanized) while Taiwan turned into a Chinese island.
今天所有人都是混合
Haplogroup O-M175=O2 (M122) +O1 (F265) ("Austric")
O2 (M122) = Sino-Tibetan O2a2b1 (M134) +Hmong-Mien O2a2a1a2 (M7)
O1 (F265) ("Austric") =O1a+O1b
O1a= Austro-Tai O1a (M119)
O1b=O1b1+O1b2
O1b2=Korean+Janpan
O1b1=Austroasiatic
O1a
Nias people 100%O1a Austronesian language family
Taiwanese aborigines 89%O1a Austronesian language family
O1b1
Shompen people 100% Austro-Asiatic language family
Juang people 98%Austro-Asiatic language family
O2 (M122)
Derung 100% Sino-Tibetan languages
Naga
100% Sino-Tibetan languages
(Sagaing, Myanmar)
@@JcDizon Taiwan is now almost Chinese, even the indigenous people are highly sinicized
The Hlai languages are still spoken in Hainan today, so in some sense Hainan is still a Tai-Kradai island.
As a Thai person I have a hard time trying not to dance to the beat of the song being used in this video 😂
정말 위대합니다, 선생!!!!
good to see this kind of map of where Kradai have been moving around no wonder why in modern day Thai the language tend to have some word influence by the region which dominantly speak middle chinese and Vietic , some time you can find thai viet and chinese using same word that has middle chinese root some time you just see Viet and thai word that they shared in the past, anyway language has always been like that evolve through time and geography and evolve as they meet some new culture, now we are in 21 st century Asian language start to have West germanic vocabulary influence like English and latin influenced like Spanish or French ( yes the west )
Haha definitely sounds like Laotian music, thanks for showing this.
And as always, you're my favorite channel for Asian history videos.
Glad I found your channel, very good videos, maybe in the (far) future you could do some european language families or something like semitic?
Btw have u seen my videos? They are in the same general topic. Either way awesome videos :)
Thank you! And yes, I am familiar with your channel; I actually cited you as a source in the end credits for this very video :)
@@TheDragonHistorian wow thanks! Sorry I didn't notice lol
Wow Good job
Can I ask you what software you use to make this motion graphic?
I use a combination of Photoshop Elements and Premiere Pro.
KRA sounds Austronesian especially Ecun Buyang. They just like to shortcut the words. Example, Austronesian numbers 1-10: 1- isa, 2- dalawa/ duha, 3- tatlo/ tulo, 4- apat/ upat, 5- lima, 6- anim, 7- pito, 8- walo, 9- siyam, 10- sampu/ sepuluh. In KRA Ecun Buyang its, 3- tatlo/ tulo into “tu”, 4- apat into “pa”, 5- lima into “ma”, 6- anim into “nam”, 7- pito into “tet/cit/tu”, 8- walo into “madu”, 10- sampu/ sepulu into “sap or put”.
While other Tai Kadai languages sounds more Chinese, or Sino-Tibetan maybe, I just dont know how they say numbers 1-10 in Chinese & Sino-Tibetan or Burmese, it may have influenced them as a region since its beside to them when Yunnan is also a province in China, at the foothills of Tibet and they share Western borders to Myanmar.
thx u
Please make a video about neolitics of other part of asia in major picture. From example from Indus to taiwan or Aral see to East Siberia. Cause i missed the southern part of asia in the neolitics of china video.
Thank you.
I'm come from Isan. (Thailand)
I don't know.
Isan mean Northeast Thailand region, culture and language.
@Lao Lao No Isan is Thai, not Lao
@Huy Ngo yes, Isan is Lao
@@basello5409 อย่าเอ๋อ
Iao isan, tai isan its interchangeable, but the natives are tai of lao origin.
I am Tai loung from Myanmar.
My grandmother is Lao-Putai. We call ourselves Laos but still subset of the Dai or Tai.
Wow pod thaks
Hey, new subscriber here, I hope you can do Brahmic Script.
Love from Philippines 💚💙
🇹🇭 🇱🇦 is Tai-Kadai ❤
and Shan state or Tai yai is Tai Kadai too
Shan, Hlai, Ong-Be, Shui, Buyang, Bouyei, Zhuang, Dong, these are all Tai-Kradai
laos was a big brother of all tai
@@TheXanian Tai Ahom.
@Buk Keo Latino lol We're not Latino we are Tai kadai Asian!!
Lots of Love form Tai-Ahom,Assam...India🙂🙏🏼❤️
อย่าเรียกตัวเองว่าไท คุณพูดภาษาของเผ่าพันธุ์ไม่ได้ด้วยซ้ำ
@@BoBoRoz1คุณหมายความว่าอย่างไร
@@Konkonponponsonson ไทอาหม สูญเสียความเป็นเผ่าพันธุ์ไทกะไดไปแล้ว ภาษา วัฒนธรรม ไม่เหลืออยู่เลย
@@BoBoRoz1 เป็นอย่างนั้นเหรอ? คือผมไม่รู้อะไรเกี่ยวกับไทอาหมครับ ผมคิดว่ายังมีความคล้ายคลึงกับไทอยู่บ้าง
ใครบอกไทอาหมพูดไทไม่ได้@@BoBoRoz1ไปหาคลิปศึกษาดูก่อน พี่น้องไทกระไดในอินเดียมีอยู่เยอะ
Will you do Austroasiatic language?
@제승원 aren't you the one who was saying I will never make a Turkic languages video because I'm being paid by China and Japan?
Does anyone know the name of the song used in the clip?
Southern Thai is basically Mon-Khmer + Austronesian that got assimilated into Tai Kadai.
Great😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍👍
Based on reconstructed Proto-Kra-Dai and recognizing innovations in Formosan languages to the numbers 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 as well as other innovations that should have been after the PAN and not the PAN itself, Sagart concluded that Proto-Kra-Dai was a sister language of Proto-Malayo-Polynesian, perhaps having left Taiwan just slightly earlier than those who left for the Luzon island.
Don't be equal to Thai people, Malaysian, Indonesian people look like Aborigines.
I think they are the remnants of Austronesian in South China then they migrated Westward into Yunnan.
While the Austronesian went out early out of Southeast China around 5,000 years ago to populate the Archipelagos in Southeast Asia, Micronesia & Polynesia in Pacific, sailing to as far as Alaska in North America, Easter Island in South America, and Madagascar in East Africa. The footprint markers are all in numbers 1-10.
I think tai peoples are the one who went back into southern China unlike their austronesian/austroasiatic relatives who either settled in mainland or went further south, and only coming down again after several thousand years due to Han expansion
4:10 Thailand has entered the chat.
4:58 Emperor Zhu Di has entered the chat.
5:42 France has entered the chat
What is the chat chat chat ?
4:43 mongolians enter china chatroom
from there on, my recent ancestors(est~800 years) escaped southern china from central areas and forcefully took over lands on the way along south-eastern coastal china all the way to hainan island, the Hlai branch of theKra Dai language almost got entirely slaughtered over the years
I think 5:42 could be British raj of the UK more than France
I'm Tai Neua from southern Shan State /Myanmar
the music is so good
Northeast Thailand music
Thai soft power
Make about Tibeto-Burman languages
เขาไม่บอกถึงพม่าเขาบอกกลุ่มชาติพันธุ์ในพม่า
The Tai, Polynesian, Micronesian, Meleanesian, Papuan, And Australian Aboriginal languages are not looked and examined enough
Or the Ongan and great andamanese families.
Altai origin human its australish.
Rather I feel that the connection between Kradai and Austronesian is not examined enough. Despite Kradai languages share some superstratum or top-layer vocabulary with Chinese, they share the bulk of their substratum or Swadesh vocabulary with Austronesian.
@@vtron9832 well to be frank the andaman natives are quite..... secluded and scattered
@@paemonyes8299 I wouldn’t say scattered. The Sentinelese are all in their island, the Onge are in a village to the north of little Andaman, the remaining great andamanese are in one small island off the coast of middle Andaman, and the jarawa are at their reserve which their largest area.
เพลงสนุกขอบคุณที่ทำ
Love from Chiang Saen ❤❤❤
Chiang sean and shang hai is simmilar sound and meaning ?
You didn’t mention the Viet(Yue越)people around Zhejiang, 《越人歌》Song of the Yue Boatman is a poem around 528 BC. And the language is Tai, which was interpreted by Zhengzhang Shangfang
There were also many who disagreed, ironically not the Chinese but most likely the Vietnamese and the Western scholars. I found on the Wikipedia how Wu Chinese languages have like hundreds of Kra-Dai words as substrates, but not one of them mentioned by western researchers, who seemed to love to confine Kra-Dai to Lingnan area only, and not the Yangtze Delta. And the Vietnamese would love to make Vietic spread from Red River Delta to Yangtze Delta in their propaganda.
It’s accepted amongst academia Yue & Bai-Yue are Austronesian and Kra-Dai the evidence is beyond convincing. Austroasiatic origin is located in southwest China not southeast coastal China. Yue and Bai-Yue were expert seafarers Austronesians are known for this.
Gelao(Klau) used to be much more widely spread in Southwest China than the video shows, the literature of Late Qing (19th century) said there still were Gelao people lived in Southeast Guizhou and West of Hunan.
Even the resident who lived in the northern Guangdong Province in Tang Dynasty(7-10 centuries) was also called as "Klau"(獦獠), as the sixth ancestor of Zen, Huineng. So this video makes a mistake of Gelao people.
I need more the information of them
Please do Austronesian languages ☺️
I like music
Are Kra Dai languages still spoken in India. I heard that they had a kingdom there long back (Ahom kingdom)
Yes they still Tai Ahom, Tai Khamti, Tai Aiton Tai Lai and Tai turung
@@lalalaland7930 Tai Phake and Tai Khamyang too
@@lalalaland7930 you forgot Tai metie of Manipur bro😑
Tai Ahom went extinct. Though they are trying to revive it now.
俚人 in Guangdong is not mentioned in this video, whose identity lasted at least until 800 AD.
good demonstration for this language series, but it needs more accuracy..
Yes, you're right. I showed the Hlai migration to Hainan too early.
@@TheDragonHistorian well, many of them simply became cantonese..
They were in Guangxi as well. In fact I would say that Kradai languages were dominant through most of Guangdong and Guangxi before Sinitic incursions.
@@zitloeng8713 Yes, genetic testings have shown that Cantonese speakers from the western part of Guangdong and neighboring Guangxi have significant Kradai admixtures.
Does Vietnamese also belong to Tai-Kadai family? From the map it has been in Northern Vietnam for a long time.
No. But Vietnamese is probably genetically related to early Tai-Kadai people.
so Tai used to own Tonkin delta and Gulf of Tonkin before Vietnamese came from Thanh Hoa
No, Vietnamese is an Austroasiatic language
m thèm làm mọi rợ lắm hả
can you made the map of Baiyue people ???
😄😄do you know baiyue is just a general term ?
Chiang saen is the name of Thai language?
TLDR:
*Austroasiatic :Cambodge-Vietnam
*Kratai:Laos, Thaïlande
*Tibetoburman:Tibet, Birmanie
*negritos:Papouasie, inner Borneo
*"island peoples" (?) :Taïwan, Philippines, Malaisie, Indonésie
I found that the origin of several languages took place in modern China.
Dont flatter yourself too much. It just happened many historical migrations of people happened in China territory. Many wars, invasions of warring tribes too from the North to the South, East to the West. That has caused people to constantly move & migrate. Even in China history, there are many Kingdoms before it became United. And when United, it becomes aggressive in invading other lands & territories, just like that Mongolian Chinese Emperor-Khan, Genghis Khan.
I find it strange that Thailand as a country has existed less than a millennium ago XD and that the origin of the Kra-dai languages is the province of canton apparently they migrated a lot
very much in the style of the Turkic peoples
Cantonese have some native Tai DNA, and Thai people have some native Austroasiatic DNA. People don’t just get replaced, unless it’s in the new world
@@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj Spanish please 🙏
@@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj I don't have Austronesian DNA. I got my DNA ancestry and I got Chinese but no Austronesian.
@@niallahorana3377You are Thai but Chinese ? So is Thailand a China province ?
@@Gog_Magog179 Northern Thai Chinese
As a Indian-Caribbean 🗿🇹🇹🇮🇳🇬🇾🫡
tai ahom from Northeast India
@Souphapxon Laos whose ancestors bro*
@Souphapxon Laos We are descendants of dehong dai. This dehong dai were ruling class of mong mao. We came from mung mao in 13th century. Chaopha Siukapha a prince from mong mao led us to Assam,India. Siukapha was son of chao cheng nyeu. Chao chang nyeu was a prince of shan state,myanmar. He came to mong mao and married the daughter of The king of Mong mao. They had a son named siukapha.
So basically we common tai ahom people are Dai descendants where as royal class belongs to shan.
@Souphapxon Laos We consider Khunlung and Khunlai as the ancestors of Siukapha and his descendants. Khunlung and khunlai came from guangxi,China and established their kingdom in Mong mao. Khunlung and khunlai are worshipped by us. This Khunlung and khunlai are ancestors of shan and tai ahom.
basically Hlai is oldest of all Kra-Dai languages
Nice video,Turkic languages pls
When parameswara ,a Malay prince exile from Sumatera in late 1300, he reached Temasik or nowadays Singapore . There he killed Temagi, a Siamese king of Temasik, who's their spoken language is Tai. The Gelanggi kingdom in Pahang Malaysia also Siamese who speaks Tai, the kingdom claimed by some historian as older than Angkor Wat. So I doubt this theory of the Tai language origin.
This is many thousands of years ago though. Modern Thai people apparently only moved into Thailand 1,000 years ago.
the fact that Thai and Tai are confusing, especially since my native language don't have dental fricatives. Or aspirated alveolar plosives, for that matter.
Its pronounce with the "D" sound not "T", Tai is the Latin form.
The Thai hegemony in process !
Tai ahom from India 🤘
เพลงม่วนๆ song very fun
There may only be a few thousand people in India who speak the Kra-Dai language, and most of the Ahom people switch to languages of the Indo-European language family
Ahom people cannot speak their language, it's mostly priests who read the chants from written texts or University students Learning Ahom. But there are other Tai people in NE India close to the Ahoms like Tai Phake, Tai Khamti, Tai Aiton etc, who still speak their languages. Though the Tai Khamyang seem to be losing their language and only elderly people speak their language, the youngsters either speak Khamti or Assamese. The Tai Turung seem to speak Singpho(a Sino-Tibetan language, called Jingpo in China and Kachin in Myanmar) instead.
I’m tai from Myanmar
wonder if kra dai speakers along with austroasiatic are part of the Baiyue tribes
Probably
Yue and Bai-Yue is Austronesian & Kra-Dai nothing to do with Austroasiatic.
@@D2E80 aren't vietnamese bai-yue also?
I want ui to MONG- HMONG language later on Meo
I'm Tai ahom from India ❤❤❤
my tai brother from a distant land ❤
Tai or Yue ???? ...
00:15 มีเสียงโหวดดนดรีจ.ร้อยเอ็ด
l think northern Tai ( Cuengh /zhuang )should have full fill guangxi in the past .
Not only that, I think they were also in the western parts of Guangdong, and possibly some parts of Hainan as well
@@weifan9533 yes. but now there is not connect with main Cuengh region due to we fail in history.
Southern thai or Pak-tai language It is an old language that has been spoken since the Sukhothai period.
Not things hiding ok
Tai is language just arrived sotheast Asia mainland at 11 century.
Make about Sino-Tibetan languages
One thing I know Thai language Gai / chicken is same in Cantonese Gai 😆
Vietnamese ga`/ chicken .Hahah
Cha is tea in Thai and Chinese. Also Khun Ying, Ma is also used in Thai and Chinese.
BUDDHA BLESS THE TAI KADAI!
kra dai language is thailand language
Love from mong tai kah🙏
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#การเข้าผลสมาบัติ#เป็นการเข้าอยู่ในอารมณ์พระนิพพาน#ที่ได้มาจากอริยผลญาณ #อันบังเกิดแล้วแก่ตน #เพื่อเสวยโลกุตตรสุข #ซึ่งเป็นความสงบสุขที่พึงเห็น #ประจักษ์ได้ในปัจจุบัน #พระนิพพาน ที่เป็นอารมณ์ของผลสมาบัตินั้นมีชื่อ ๓ ชื่อหรือมี ๓ อาการคือ ๑. #อนิมิตตนิพพาน หมายถึงว่า ผู้ที่ก้าวขึ้นสู่มัคคผลนั้น เพราะเห็นความ ไม่เที่ยง อันปราศจากนิมิตเครื่องหมาย คือ อนิจจัง โดยบุญญาธิการแต่ปางก่อน แรงด้วยสีล เมื่อเข้าผลสมาบัติก็คงมีอนิมิตตนิพพาน เป็นอารมณ์
๒. #อัปปณิหิตนิพพาน หมายถึงว่า ผู้ที่ก้าวขึ้นสู่มัคคผลนั้น เพราะเห็นความ ทนอยู่ไม่ได้ ต้องเปลี่ยนแปรไป อันหาเป็น ปณิธิ ที่ตั้งไม่ได้ คือทุกขัง โดยบุญญาธิ การแต่ปางก่อนแรงด้วยสมาธิ เมื่อเข้าผลสมาบัติ ก็คงมี อัปปณิหิตนิพพาน เป็น อารมณ์
๓. #ญตนิพพาน หมายถึงว่า ผู้ที่ก้าวขึ้นสู่มัคคผลนั้น เพราะเห็นความ ไม่ใช่ตัวตน บังคับบัญชาไม่ได้ อันเป็นความว่างเปล่า คืออนัตตา โดยบุญญาธิการ แต่ปางก่อนแรงด้วยปัญญา เมื่อเข้าผลสมาบัติ ก็คงมี สุญญตนิพพาน เป็นอารมณ์
No wonder my DNA test shows that I am 99% Guangdong Han Chinese and 1% Chinese Dai
are you from the pearl river delta?
@@rickr9435 Yup, see my profile picture.
I am Thai, nghe an province, vietnam
Where is baiyue (old yue) language?i think that kradai should include old yue although some linguists regard it as a kind of austronesian languages
Personally, I think Yue and Tai are interchangeable to a point.
@@DTKRDMNK yeah some of yue peoples became the ancestor of Thai
Most likely Kradai, though possibly also included speakers of Austroasiatic, Hmong-Mien, and Austronesian. Baiyue wasn't a single people, it was a collective term which referred to all the Non-Sinitic peoples of Southern China.
@@weifan9533 emm u r right. Baiyue(hundred yue) is not homogeneous. Wuyue and Eastern Ou could be kradai or austronesian, yangyue and shanyue in three-kingdoms period could be hmongmien, minyue could be austronesian, and au lac or luoyue(lac viet) could be kradai or austroasiatic. Dongyi is also a multiethnic group and it could include austronesian, altaic and sino-tibetan peoples
@@yujiang6004 I actually think Wuyue and Eastern Ou could either be Sinitic or Hmong-Mien, Minyue could be Austroasiatic or Hmong-Mien, and Luoyue / Western Ou was most likely Kradai. Austronesian by this time had most likely been pushed out of mainland China, though could still have pockets of lingering populations in Fujian, Guangdong, Hainan, and Guangxi. Dongyi, on the other hand, most likely spoke a language related to modern-day Korean or Japanese. Just my opinion though, there's no consensus on this.
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We are Tai people
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I do not think this is very accurate, Kra-Dai almost certainly had a much wider distribution throughout southeastern China, roughly corresponds to the various Yue groups in the Old Chinese records. For example, Kam corresponds to Kan, an alternative name for Jiangxi region, and a Yue group named "Kan" in Old Chinese used to live in that exact area. Kam people might have at least at some point inhabited the Jiangxi area. Also, it is widely agreed that Kra-Dai is related to Austronesian, sometimes grouped together with Austronesian.
Yes, this video does have a lot of errors, especially the omission of the ancient Chu state's Kra-Dai connections. However, I haven't heard that the Austro-Tai hypothesis is "widely agreed" upon.
It seems that most lean towards there being an Austro-Tai relationship. And that's strictly based on linguistics, not taking other evidence into account. Are there any legit rebuttals to Austro-Tai? Imho, the mainstream accepted the relationship and the main contention now is whether they're sister branches or Kra-Dai is a daughter of Austronesian.
But Tai-Kradai languages of today has lost many features that define Austronesian such as the addition of tones, monosyllable, etc
@@user-yv2nu5kf5j Tonogenesis can actually occur really fast. Look up the Tsat language on iLoveLanguages channel. It's one of a few tonal Austronesian languages and is spoken on Hainan Island. It branched off from Cham or Malay and sounds a bit like Wu Chinese to me. Also, a recent piece published by Oxford and written by a University of Melbourne professor (Yongxian Luo) from their top-ranked linguistics dept. wrote 'The ultimate genetic affiliation of Kra-Dai remains controversial, although a consensus among western scholars holds that it belongs under Austronesian'. It's in their encyclopedia section or something under 'The Kra-Dai Languages'
@@user-yv2nu5kf5j One of my favorite cognates shared by proto-Tai, proto-Austronesian, and proto-Austroasiatic is the word for 'eyes'. 'Look me in the eyes!' is said when we do not want to lose any of the messages a person's gaze sends us. It's 'the window to the soul'
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I am tai ahom North East India
Majority of the modern Ahoms are actually Morans, Chutiyas etc, who got absorbed into the Ahom kingdom & identity themselves as Ahom. Only 9000 Tai men and few women arrived in Assam, & majority of Ahom are not descendants of those 9000 men.
DNA test of Ahom population proves that they have high HbE frequency, which is a trait of native mongoloid population of Assam. Whereas Tai population in the East Asian countries have almost no HbE frequency.
And if you want proof then check the answer of Himprabal Singha on Quora, he replied to the question (Are Ahoms Assamese?) there he have showed the proof. There he have showed the Haplogroup frequency of the natives of Assam.
HbE means Haplogroup by the way.