I think it's highly possible that Peninsular Japonic was one of the Jomon substrates. There is archaeological evidence that Jomon people also lived on the Korean Peninsula. They had higher Jomon genes than modern Japanese and Ryukyuans.
It shows that Taiwan is an Austronesian for hundreds or thousands of years. The place of origin of the Austronesian people are now Sinitic Majority (Chinese)
@Red Nose I think 'cultural assimilation' is the more correct term here, the chinese simply settled in large numbers wherever they conquered and just replaced the local native population
In my opinion Taiwan is more similar to Ireland and Britain island, and Chinese mainland is similar to Germany and Scandinavian peninsula. Sinitic Hokkien speakers from mainland China migrated to Taiwan island and replaced many Austronesian speakers' territories, just like Germanic Anglo-Saxons occupied most of Celtic lands in Britain and Ireland. Exactly, Hokkien belongs to Sinitic though, it is not Mandarin. English belongs to Germanic but it isn't German or Swedish. It's not very appropriate to compare Taiwan to North America (Germanic America), compare Chinese mainland to British Empire.
I didn't know that Kra-Dai was actually just beside Austronesian. Austronesian moved out of mainland Asia into the islands while Kra-Dai remained on the mainland moving several miles south to Indochina.
The Hmongic speaking people of Shandong disappeared and migrated southwest. One group of Hmongic stay toward the southeast, forming the She people. As an ethnic Miao, some of our people came from the yellow river going southwest while other Yangtze Miao stay there forming the large Xiang and Southeast Guizhou Miao people.
It is ironic that although the Manchus dominated China, they lost their mother tongue only a century after their invasion of China succeeded. That is why in the 19th century, Manchurian decreased in China.
Seems that conquering China was Manchus biggest mistake. Not only did they lose their homeland, they lost their language as well and it was all their fault that happened. If they only remained in Manchuria, they might still be a separate country from the Chinese today.
That's mainly because they got sinicized, during their ruling. In the early Qing the ruling class knows Manchurian, but later even the emperor didn't know how to speak that. In the late 1800s the Qing government let huge amounts of Han Chinese migrate to so-called '' Manchuria'' to prevent that area from being taken away by Russia. Hence, Northeastern mandarin became the dominant language and lingua franca among all ethnicities of Northeast China. That's how manchurian ancester tribes who did not move to Beijing lost their mother tongue.
Many superior Vietnamese people will not accept this truth. because they believed that the Austronesians did not come from coastal China and Taiwan. They considered the Austronesians to be backward tribes.
China now claiming South East Asian territory by according to them ancient matter... Then Thai Vietnamese, Filipinos should also claim the south part of China as VERY ancient matter reason haha😂
Language Families In Southeast Asia Austronesian: Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Timor Leste(*), Brunei, Singapore(*) Tai-Kadai: Thailand, Laos Austroasiatic: Vietnam, Cambodia Sino-Tibetan->Tibeto-Burman: Myanmar
Tai kadah/Thais are not an Austronesian family, they are from southern China who left because they did not want to be assimilated by Sinitic/Han Chinese
The Spanish language in the Philippines has very little influence in the Cordillera region and most of Mindanao for most part of our history. It has only been recently that they got indirect Spanish influence because of the influence of the lowland Christianized groups.
Small errors: Northern part of the Korean peninsula has been resided by Jurchen tribes until early Joseon era. Also, I think the Qing Manchu influence on the mainland China is too exaggarated in this video.
The Turkic peoples only covered a small area mainly around Kazakhstan for a long time. It was only in the 1st Millennium CE when they started spreading and populating large areas. Hence the Turkic languages are far more similar to each other than languages in other major language families like Indo-European or Sino-Tibetan.
Funny to see the Japonic languages spoken exclusively in Korea, and the Koreanic languages spoken in Manchuria, during 500-700 BC. Also I think you missed Japanese language during the colonial era. Taiwan was pretty thoroughly Japanese speaking, and parts of China and SEA would have used Japanese to varying extents in administration and education.
Yes he ignores this point. Taiwan island was also the influential sphere of Tungusic Manchu language during Qing dynasty, and I think Sanskrit might have a influence on mainland Southeast Asia during Indianized period. In other areas he did generally well.
@@weimingzhou7318 Your assertion about Manchu in Taiwan is nonsense. The Manchu language was in decline as early as the 1700s. The The Manchu language was not spoken widely by Manchus themselves, let alone Han Chinese. Han Chinese from Fujian province made up the majority of settlers in Taiwan, and they did not speak Manchu at all.
Japanese language did not have a strong hold in SEA countries before. only taiwan during japanese colonial rule absorbed a lot of japanese and parts of china also adopting some wasei kango terms. japanese rule over SEA countries in ww2 mainly encouraged the use of local mainstream languages instead because their propaganda ideal was to kick out western colonial rulers in favor of asians for asia with japan supposedly leading the pack. this was the idea behind greater east asia co-prosperity sphere, japanese only influenced taiwan, korea, manchuria, micronesia, hawaii, south sakhalin, south kurils, and the wasei kango terms adopted in china. the other japanese influences in SEA are more to do with pop culture and material trade influences just as now, anime is a big thing among many of the youth in SEA countries
what was big in SEA countries even centuries before was the spread of southern chinese languages, especially Hokkien, and sometimes Teochew, Cantonese, Hakka, and at times even Hokchew, Hinghwa, Hoisanese, Shantung, Kwongsai, etc.
@@weimingzhou7318 This map actually exaggerates the influence of the Manchu language, which in Qing China, outside of the imperial court in Beijing, was mainly confined to the 'Manchurian cities' established within the major cities of China. From the mid-Qing period onwards, it was also common for the Manchus to switch to Mandarin, based on the Beijing accent. By the end of the Qing Dynasty, even the Aisin Gioro royal family was not fluent in Manchu.
Interesting, the Korean peninsula was originally occupied by the ancestors of the Japanese, while the ancestors of the Koreans occupied southern Manchuria. I'm not sure, but I believe that what happened was a cascade of population shifts that started with the Tungusic and Sinitic peoples, causing the ancestors of the Koreans to occupy the current Korean peninsula while the ancestors of the Japanese had to move across the Sea of Japan to reach the current Japanese archipelago.
The indigenous peoples of the Liaodong Peninsula were attacked by Khitan C2 and Han O2a and were pushed into the mountainous areas of the south and east of the Korean Peninsula. These groups are a haplogroup called O1b2a2a-L682, which is different from O1b2a1-47z in the western part of the Japanese archipelago. Yayoi O1b2- M176 is a descendant of O1b1 in Southeast Asia and the Yangtze River coastal area of South China, and diverged about 30,000 years ago. Since around 5000 BC, it has been divided, and O1b2- M176 has been introduced to the Japanese archipelago and the Korean peninsula. -47z in the Japanese archipelago diverges earlier, so the group in the Japanese archipelago may have interbred with the indigenous people earlier. Also, many people misunderstand that the D1a Jomon man from the north and the D1a Jomon man from the west have the same Y-chromosome DNA, but their mitochondrial DNA is completely different. In other words, there were at least two types of Jomon people. It is said that the Yayoi people migrated from the Korean Peninsula because the Jomon people who lived in the western part had mitochondrial DNA from Northeast Asia. It is natural to think that the Jomon people who came from all over the world were a different species because they had different languages. In conclusion, the Yayoi people are an ethnic group that originated in the Japanese archipelago. The O1b1 race, the parent of the Yayoi people, originated in Southeast Asia and speaks Proto-Austronesian. The origin of Japanese is the language of the Jomon people who lived in the western part of the Japanese archipelago. The origin of the Ainu language is the Jomon people in the north. The Ainu people are a mixture of the Jomon people of Hokkaido and the Okhotsk people (Russian Siberian minority) who came from Karafuto around the 13th century.
The Cascade does not start with the Tungusgic or Sinnic peoples. It started with Koreans pushing the Japonic Yayoi out of the peninsula whilst also having control and expanding into north east Manchuria. This corresponds with the expansion of Goguryeo and Beakje. After the collapse of Goguryeo and Beakje due to Tang conquests, the Koreans are pressured out of Manchuria By sinnic peoples. But the Koreans bring in and band with the Tungusgic peoples from the northeast of Manchuria to repel the Chinese. This will be the foundation of Barlhae. After a couple centuries Barlhae collapses due to a constant invasion of Khitans added with a sudden eruption of a supervolcano. The Khitans throughly and systematically remove the Koreans out of Manchuria, but leave the Tungusgic people be as they were not settled in the geography. This power vacuum of Koreans let the Tungusic people populate Manchuria and even establish their own independent state to the surprise of the Khitans.
The fact is india and china are most diverse countries in terms of linguistic diversity still they manges to bound all language in one common thing . I mean look how bad in start the linguistic where now all are related to a one Language as well as different from each other you can see this in entire india that how sanskrit , hindi is used all over india but as well as all different languages commonly share some similarities with devnagri it's so unique.
The Kra Dai's original place was on the opposite side of the island of Taiwan, so it had native Taiwanese DNA. When the Han migrated south, the Kra Dai migrated to the southwest and mixed with the Austro-Asiatic, so there was a gene flow from the Austo-Asiatic to the Kradai people When the Han people migrated south to southern China, some of the Kradai people migrated to Southeast Asia, where the Austo Asiatic people immigrated first. Austro Asiatic people had to migrate further south.
@@fayhay8011 Not really. There are tribal Austroasians among urban dwellers in Malaysia like my colleague from Semoq Beri tribe. Google the name and check
@@CostasMelas Do you think they are related to any modern languages unlike the substrates in Europe? I mean like Yenisei, Mongolic, Turkic, or any other paleosiberian languages for that matter.
@@nose665 Historically and Archaeologically Koreans started and peaked around Southern Manchuria and Northern Korea. The Linguistics simply follow that historical information.
@@Wandrative Those were called Fuyu people, not exactly Korean. Korean people's ancestors are the Samhan people, they inhabited South Korea much like today.
@@Secular_Turkish knk bugünkü Moğol steplerinde moğollardan önce biz vardık zaten. Altay sayan dağları arası, tuva, buryatya ve bugünkü moğolistanda bizler vardık zaten. Moğollarsa mançuryadan geliyor. Çinliler ile Moğollar tunguzlar bizi batıya doğru itelediler. Orta asyadaki Hint iranlıları da biz iteledik. Türk dil ailesi videosunda bile tarihimizi çok geç başlattı.
@@Secular_Turkish daha doğrusu itelediğimiz azdır çünkü Hint iranlılar kazakistan ile Kırgızistan civarı bozkır (Kırgızistan dağlıktır çoğunluk) olduğundan dolayı Özbekistan,Türkmenistan ile Kazakistan'ın güneyi olan ekim alanlarına yerleştiler çoğunluk. Orta asyanın Türk olması da genelde Arap, çin, Moğol saldırıları sayesinde olmuştur. Ancak bunlar bizi suçluyor.
The history of the Gaoju is given in the respective entry in WS 103 + (pp. 2505-2508); until the beginning of Text 1.056/B it is extracted as follows. 高車,蓋古赤狄之餘種也初號為狄歷,北方以為敕勒,諸夏以為高車、丁零。 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之也。 The Gaoju are probably the remaining tribes of the ancient Chidi [lit. 'the red Di']. Initially they were called Dili. People in the north called them Chile, whereas people in China proper called them Gaoju or Dingling. Their language is roughly the same as that of the Xiongnu but at times has minor differences from that. Some say that their ancestors were the nephew of [i.e. indirectly related to] the Xiongnu.
Despite the depiction of Wusun speaking Indo-Aryan and Eastern South Asia (not Southeast Asia!) speaking entirely Munda, I would say the video is very nice! Edit: I would also say that the Iranian-representing lines in Asia during the Muslim rule are too many, and thus signifying lots of Iranian speakers, when in fact, it was just the military-administrative class. So I expected that to have fewer lines (like 1880's China). Still a great video and your efforts are appreciated since no other person has ever embarked on this project but you.
Many superior Vietnamese people will not accept this truth. because they believed that the Austronesians did not come from coastal China and Taiwan. They considered the Austronesians to be backward tribes.
Good video, I expect a video of the pre-Columbian languages of America, there are two theories which says that there are three families of languages the Na-dene, the Amerindian and the Eskimo-Aleutian and the other theory what says that there are many families of languages
During World War II, the Takasago people of Taiwan, who were drafted into the Japanese army, played an active role in interpreting with the local people in Southeast Asia.
@@唯一神-u2b As soldiers, they may have fulfilled that role, but that's not what I mean. As you can see from the video, the language of Taiwan is similar to the languages of Southeast Asia, so the Takasago tribe, who was educated in Japanese at the time, was able to translate it.
@@Reimu2023 As far as I know, China, Korea, and ten ASEAN countries, all Japanese colonized people were forced to learn Japanese.Why are you emphasizing this minority? All are the same.You even call them by colonial name, their real name is Gaoshan.
@@唯一神-u2b Excuse me, Takasago is just a Japanese name. I understand that there is a name Gaoshan. I heard that Japanese language education was conducted in Southeast Asia during the war, but of course they were not able to speak Japanese from the beginning. The interpreter by Gaoshan was helpful at first.
There should be a "Tibetan Highlands Substrate" language in Tibet prior to the arrival to ST Zhangzhung and predecessors. The region was inhabited since before the Neolithic. Kusunda, a language isolate near the Himalayas lacks retroflex consonants and instead has uvular consonants, more common to Siberian languages. I hypothesise Kusunda is the sole descendant of the languages spoken by pre-ST Tibetan Highlanders.
So is this the reason why ancient indian scriptures used to consider land of Modern day Bihar, bengal odisha and Assam as barbaric Cuz the region was predominately Austroasiatic language speaker
I find Hmong-Mien language family to be the one that's not talked about much in comparison to other nearby major language families. It's like right in the middle of East Asia surrounded by Sinitic languages to the north, Austronesian languages to the east, Kra-Dai languages to the south, and Austroasiatic languages to the southwest. I find them to be special as they share a lot of linguistic features with their surroundings like they are extremely tonal, analytic, and have similar grammar and consonant and vowel sound sets. But it's interesting that they are their own family tree. I'm a Hmong person who is still able to speak Hmong but not to the degree of a proficient speaker conversationally. I am still able to understand and able to pronounce words. The Hmong language is interesting in that in my dialect, it has 56 consonants,13 vowels (6 simple vowels, 2 nasal vowels, and 5 diphthongs), and 8 tones. Anyway, that's all I want to say. Ua tsaug uas koj tau tso ib daim video hais txog cov lus cov keeb kwm rau peb saib tias ntau ntau haiv neeg cov lus thaum ub tau pib tawm mus li cas los yog nyob li cas. (Thank you for putting out this video showcasing the history of these languages for us to see how it moves and where it stays). Have a nice day. [Edited]: Oh btw, I'm a very young person who is still able to speak and understand Hmong, but a couple of people around my age and younger aren't speaking much. It's pretty understandable as we are surrounded by the majority language.
Many superior Vietnamese people will not accept this truth. because they believed that the Austronesians did not come from coastal China and Taiwan. They considered the Austronesians to be backward tribes.
Chinese immigrants overrided many natives out of their land. There is a reason many countries in the world don't usually allow Chinese passport holders visa-free or visa-on-arrival when they travel
In many regards this is a sad map, for example the forced migration of the Dai peoples from southern China into modern day Thailand and the corresponding marginalisation of Malays and Cambodians. There must have been so much suffering.
This could be a reason why Cambodian nowadays blame Thailand for stealing their Khmer culture because they think the Thai originally came from South China and displaced their Austroasiatic ancestors and made their territory shrink into their current size.
@@JEMXliveChannel Bloodshed, famine, poverty, disease. All the things that usually happen when a people are robbed of their land. Ask the Armenians or the Cherokee.
Well, that's history, these things happen all the time. You pity the Dai peoples, Malays and Cambodians for their forced migration, but do they live there in the first place? Don't they migrate form other places either?
3500 year ago south of china(guangdong and guangxi,fujian...) is tai kradai???china called them is baiyue...and we in vn also claim them is việt people...but in this video they are tai kadrai ???? Wow very weird to me... So astroasiatic and taikadai is similar because china all called them is baiyue(百越bách việt)....🙃🙃🙃🤣🤣😁😁😁
Sán Dìu language (/saːn ziw) in the Northern Midlands of Vietnam, Hakka-based language, strongly Cantonesized, recently Vietnamesized in pronunciation.
the way mixed languages or creoles work is that there will always be a base substratum language that acts as the foundation, then depending on how high the admixture and loaning is, there will be an adstratum language acting as its superstrate heavily influencing it. how would one represent it? well, one would have to choose the inherent genetic base of the foundational structure. it is just very characteristic for that language to have a lot of influence from other languages. for example, english is base germanic, but throughout the millennia has had a lot of romance influence and some celtic influence, so it's basically a germanic language that has a lot of italo-celtic influence
cantonese and hakka are base sinitic languages with a lot of very old tai-kra, hmong-mien, and some austroasiatic ancient substrate loans. this is because of a high amount of assimilated tai-kra, hmong-mien, and austroasiatic peoples that shifted to a sinitic language with their former tai-kra, hmong-mien, and austroasiatic languages leaving remainder substrate words that got borrowed in long ago into cantonese and hakka around 2000 or 1000 years ago. meanwhile, vietnamese is a base austroasiatic language with a high amount of sinitic, tai-kra, and some hmong-mien loans, which is also a result of its history taking in and assimilating a lot of sinitic, tai-kra, and hmong-mien migrants to its base kinh population.
Cantonese, Hakka is not mixed language, Vietnamese is a mixed language!Vietnamese is the birth of the Khmer tribe colonized by the Han people, and the paternal lineage and surname of the original Jing people who led Vietnam's independence came from the Han people! However, during the reign of China, Khmer tribes and primitive Jing people were not accepted by the Han people and could only be slaves.Vietnamese (Khmer-Chinese Cantonese fusion language) was produced by the thousand-year rule history of Chinese！Modern Jing people have about 20% of the population of Han descent! Light complexion, high nose and thin lips, it is easy to identify Han descent!
@@知-k3qYou are wrong. Vietnamese are the descendants of the Muong ethnicity. The Muong call themselves Mon or Mol, no way Khmer at all. Even the Khmer Empire used to have the Mon people but the Mon people didn't consider themselves the Khmer (yup even the language they spoke are from the same language group). Truth is the Mon in the Khmer Empire were assimilated into the Thai population even more than the Khmer. Vietnamese were mixed with some Chinese during 1000 years of Chinese dominant was something inevitable.
@@CostasMelas 🤔i been wondering lately what couldve come before austroasiatics went down south from modern-day southwest china to northern vietnam, laos, myanmar sorta area. i wonder if many millennia ago, all of southeast asia was just negritoland. maybe the ancestors of semang and maniq people now speaking aslian languages were those ancient hoabinhian hunter-gatherers that also sailed over to andaman islands
@@xXxSkyViperxXx According to Wikipedia, two individuals belonging to the Hoabinhian culture (one from Laos, one from Malaysia) had their DNA extracted and their closest relatives are the present day Andamanese and Semang. So I guess Southeast Asia was pretty much Negrito back then.
😘Good video. However I think there is some small errors in the video. In Qing Dynasty, han people still speak mandarin. Nearly no one speaks manchu language, for their population is so small. All manchu nobles start to speak mandarin. In 1690s, even some princesses can not speak Manchu language well. After 100 years, nearly no one can speak it but the royal family. Well Manchu language greatly affected Beijing dialect and mandarin. Current standard madarin is based on places with many Manchu people. So what is interesting is that Manchu people speak mandarin and Beijing dialect best when 100 years ago.
Yes, even in the modern time now the Tai-Kradai language family is still spoken among the Zhuang minority in Guangxi (#1 largest ethnic minority of China, and also the #2 ethnic population after Han Chinese). Southwest of China has Xishuangbanna Dai autonomous prefecture to preserve its Dai/Tai culture where the language, clothes, food, customs are the same like you are in North Thailand
Pretty wild to think about that the Austronesian, Tai, Korean and Japanese people all had their original homeland in modern-day China, before they were all gradually pushed away east or south by the Sinitic-speaking people over the centuries. Austronesian Taiwan being an island also managed to resist Sinitic expansion until like the 1700s before eventually being overtaken by Sinitic-speaking people too.
There was no change in the standing of Austronesian languages in the Philippines past 1565. Just good ol' borrowing of some words that everyone in the world has been doing for ages. Nobody was natively speaking Castilian in the country except like 5% max of the population, all of them being Spaniards. All of them were workers for the kingdom so most already left when Spain no longer had any claims over the country.
I still cant wrap my head around how far the Thai group was displaced from south China, and how recent the consolidation of the Thai mainland was. How did that look like to the AustroAsiatics living in pre-Thailand? Were Thais these waves of mountainfolk that came down from the hills and mannaged to overrun and supplant the agricultural plains civilization and assimilated them to the Thai nation in a matter of centuries?
This could be a reason why Cambodian nowadays blame Thailand for stealing their Khmer culture because they think the Thai originally came from South China and displaced their Austroasiatic ancestors and made their territory shrink into their current size.
@@Vandyke0147 Not 100% sure (I'm not Thai or mainland Southeast Asian) but I think most of the Thais displaced and assimilated are actually the Mon and some more tribal Austroasiatics. Some well known Muay Thai practitioners like Tony Jaa and Buakaw are actually ethnic Kuy who are Austroasiatics from Thailand near the Cambodian border. The Mon were displaced and assimilated in Myanmar too by the Burmese.
@@Vandyke0147 3500 year ago south of china(guandong and guangxi) is tai kradai???china called them is baiyue...and we in vn also claim them is việt people...but in this video they are tai kadrai ???? Wow very weir to me... So astroasiatic and taikadai is similar because china all called them is baiyue(百越bách việt)....🙃🙃🙃
The Japonic migration (and the suspensful music) from one place to another is almost like a symbolic metaphor of the total 30 years of my life so far. Very poetic in a sense and very accurate!
I remember that my father told me that there were many malay villages at Vietnam then they were slaughtered by the Vietnamese kingdom.After attending history class,he was referring to the Champas,the Champas & the Malays are so similar to each other to the point it can be considered as one ethnic group.It's interesting to see how The Malays & the Champas spread throughout mainland SE Asia & it saddens me of when the Champas were slaughtered & reduced to pocket-sized community.This thing also happens to the Malays at southern Thailand where the military massacred them
No slaughter, just be assimilated. I can easily spot Kinh people with Cham features in the Central provinces of Vietnam. Ancient Vietnam always population was very low (1/20 to 1/10 of today's population) so it always lacked people to work. Why have to kill when you can let them work and tax them. They even welcomed Ming refugees to reclaim Southern Vietnam.
@@fayhay8011 The district was probably named after the fleeing chams who decided to settle in the area. Cham expulsion happened several times from 15th century to 18th century and most of the time they would flee to the east coast of Malay peninsular.
Have we actually gotten worlds from this Negrito Substrate in Dravidian and especially Tamil and/or in Austroasiatic. And are we sure that Austroasiatic speakers are the first Genetic West Eurasians to make it into that area?.
Austroasiatic speakers are genetic West Eurasian? Don't you mean East Eurasian? Some Philippine Negrito languages actually retains words from this Negrito Substrate because they don't exist in the more mainstream Philippine Austronesian languages. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Negrito_languages#Unique_vocabulary
@@JcDizon Yeah, I meant East Asian. Andamanese group with East Asians. Okay do we have any idea if those Philippine Negrito Substrate are related to any extant languages?.
Languages of the Middle East would be really amazing. Think of all the Afro-Asiatic languages, Meroitic, Sumerian, Elamite, Dravidian, Harappan, Hattic, Hurro-Urartian, Kaskian, Kassite, Kartvelian, Northeast Caucasian, Northwest Caucasian, Gutian, Proto-Euphratean Not to mention the Turkic and Indo-European invasions. That place might be crazier than anywhere else.
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very good video greek friend
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Thank you very much
Your Semitic, berber, spread of humans and history of writing system videos are terrible and full of mistakes
lol the facebook page looks like its planning to make an age of empires game hahaha
@@xXxSkyViperxXx My favorite game 😀
Probably one of the most diffuclt language development maps
Indeed, it was one of most difficult project
@@CostasMelas it could've been more accurate.
I think it's highly possible that Peninsular Japonic was one of the Jomon substrates. There is archaeological evidence that Jomon people also lived on the Korean Peninsula. They had higher Jomon genes than modern Japanese and Ryukyuans.
만약 한반도를 백제가 통일했다면 현재 한국과 일본은 같은 나라였을 가능성이 높다고 봄
@user-iz7wy7pe6q The average Korean right-winger's delusion is this:
@@ognianeeh5684 난 좌파이고.. 이순신을 싫어하고 일본의 일선동조론을 긍정적으로 생각하는 사람이다
@@ognianeeh5684 so what
Where is the evidence?
Wowwww hands down best map video on East Asian languages. No propaganda. No bs. All science. Keep the videos coming!
Thank you
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What do you mean no propaganda?
so many propaganda
no propaganda? the japonic part was ripped off right from pseudo japanese scholars
Making a coherent video out of what is still an unresolved linguistic mess even to this day, I commend you sir; this was a tall task.
Thank you
Yes but at the cost of overestimating the areas for certain families, like those in China
I like the music which you chosen,it feels like there will be many huge changes in this part of the world
It shows that Taiwan is an Austronesian for hundreds or thousands of years. The place of origin of the Austronesian people are now Sinitic Majority (Chinese)
Mountainous islands of Taiwan remain aboriginal majority
@Red Nose I think 'cultural assimilation' is the more correct term here, the chinese simply settled in large numbers wherever they conquered and just replaced the local native population
In my opinion Taiwan is more similar to Ireland and Britain island, and Chinese mainland is similar to Germany and Scandinavian peninsula. Sinitic Hokkien speakers from mainland China migrated to Taiwan island and replaced many Austronesian speakers' territories, just like Germanic Anglo-Saxons occupied most of Celtic lands in Britain and Ireland. Exactly, Hokkien belongs to Sinitic though, it is not Mandarin. English belongs to Germanic but it isn't German or Swedish. It's not very appropriate to compare Taiwan to North America (Germanic America), compare Chinese mainland to British Empire.
Filipinos and native taiwanese is indeed austronesian with DNA paternal haplo group O1a
@rednose5382 several countries also speaks Sino-Tibetan languages, for example Burmese, Thai, Laotian, Bhutanese
I didn't know that Kra-Dai was actually just beside Austronesian. Austronesian moved out of mainland Asia into the islands while Kra-Dai remained on the mainland moving several miles south to Indochina.
yes i believe its a sister branch of proto austronesian that became tonal monosyllabic and isolating
Gosh East Asia and more particularly South East Asia has such an interesting linguistic history, its sad its hardly known outside of the region.
Hope to see video about Ainu, Koreanic and Japonic language families
The Hmongic speaking people of Shandong disappeared and migrated southwest. One group of Hmongic stay toward the southeast, forming the She people. As an ethnic Miao, some of our people came from the yellow river going southwest while other Yangtze Miao stay there forming the large Xiang and Southeast Guizhou Miao people.
逗呢，山东人的基因纯北方人，苗族就没有北方基因，纯粹的南方土著
@clemathieu JT 古代山东遗址人反而和日韩人更接近，你们是哪门子土著，山东大葱爱吹牛
@@Владимир-г8э9б Miao people have probably the most Northern genes when compared to other "Southern" minorities.
Very very EXCELLENT! This video deserves to be a MASTERPIECE!!!👍
Thank you very much
Amazing quality! Nice work.
I would like to watch a detailed map video about Japonic and Ainu languages.
me too.
In addition I want to watch transitions about Nivkh and Uilta
Thank you
It is ironic that although the Manchus dominated China, they lost their mother tongue only a century after their invasion of China succeeded. That is why in the 19th century, Manchurian decreased in China.
Seems that conquering China was Manchus biggest mistake. Not only did they lose their homeland, they lost their language as well and it was all their fault that happened. If they only remained in Manchuria, they might still be a separate country from the Chinese today.
a small group diluting itself in a big group is probably gradual suicide
There is a language derivated of manchu: Xibe in Xinjiang Uighur
That's mainly because they got sinicized, during their ruling. In the early Qing the ruling class knows
Manchurian, but later even the emperor didn't know how to speak that.
In the late 1800s the Qing government let huge amounts of Han Chinese migrate to so-called '' Manchuria'' to prevent that area from being taken away by Russia. Hence, Northeastern mandarin became the dominant language and lingua franca among all ethnicities of Northeast China. That's how manchurian ancester tribes who did not move to Beijing lost their mother tongue.
China be like: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
한국어는 중국 만주지역에서도 상당히 사용됩니다
연변자치주로 한정해도 조선족 인구가 30퍼대에 불과합니다
中國朝鮮族主要分佈在與朝鮮的邊境上
@@liangyue322 There are many people in Heilongjiang Province, close to 400000
Since Lee Seong-gye is Jurchen, isn't modern Korean similar to Manchu?
@@山田次郎-e8i do you think just one person can change the whole language of the country? 🤪🤪🤪
Outside of the resolution which isn't the best that's a great video 👍
Thank you
Awesome video. I love it 😍😍😍
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Detailed and accurate as always. Thank you Costas Melas
Thank you very much
Many superior Vietnamese people will not accept this truth. because they believed that the Austronesians did not come from coastal China and Taiwan. They considered the Austronesians to be backward tribes.
China now claiming South East Asian territory by according to them ancient matter... Then Thai Vietnamese, Filipinos should also claim the south part of China as VERY ancient matter reason haha😂
Ming dynasty is ancient?
Impressive work!
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This dude is insanely good at what he does
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Always good quality
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Language Families In Southeast Asia
Austronesian: Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Timor Leste(*), Brunei, Singapore(*)
Tai-Kadai: Thailand, Laos
Austroasiatic: Vietnam, Cambodia
Sino-Tibetan->Tibeto-Burman: Myanmar
Timor is not Austronesian
@@Clarksville000 Tetum, official language of Timor Leste are Austronesian
@kepala kentang This is based on each countries official language
Tai kadah/Thais are not an Austronesian family, they are from southern China who left because they did not want to be assimilated by Sinitic/Han Chinese
The Srivijayans Austronesian invasion of Java is the reason why the Javanese Austroasiatics language disappear
The Spanish language in the Philippines has very little influence in the Cordillera region and most of Mindanao for most part of our history. It has only been recently that they got indirect Spanish influence because of the influence of the lowland Christianized groups.
Excellent job with this. I've wanted a video like this for quite some time now and I wasn't sure if you'd make a version for East/Southeast Asia.
Thank you
Small errors: Northern part of the Korean peninsula has been resided by Jurchen tribes until early Joseon era. Also, I think the Qing Manchu influence on the mainland China is too exaggarated in this video.
Thank you. Feedback is helpful to improve
Briefly, the history of Sino-Tibetan's expansions.
You started Turkic and Tungusic very late and mistakenly counted Para-Mongolic as Mongolic. The rest is good.
They are marked from the moment they appear in the frame
Don't Mongolic and Para-Mongolic be roughly the same, as the intention is to portray a primary language family?
@@joagalo para-Mongolic includes khitan, Serbi and Pannonia Avar
If we compare the Mongolic Languages to Tetrapod, Para-Mongolic is comparable to Fish. And we should call Vertebrate “Macro-Mongolic”.
The Turkic peoples only covered a small area mainly around Kazakhstan for a long time. It was only in the 1st Millennium CE when they started spreading and populating large areas.
Hence the Turkic languages are far more similar to each other than languages in other major language families like Indo-European or Sino-Tibetan.
great video man
Thank you
@@CostasMelas you're welcome
Nice video! 👍
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Impressive map!
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Very good ❤
Funny to see the Japonic languages spoken exclusively in Korea, and the Koreanic languages spoken in Manchuria, during 500-700 BC.
Also I think you missed Japanese language during the colonial era. Taiwan was pretty thoroughly Japanese speaking, and parts of China and SEA would have used Japanese to varying extents in administration and education.
Yes he ignores this point. Taiwan island was also the influential sphere of Tungusic Manchu language during Qing dynasty, and I think Sanskrit might have a influence on mainland Southeast Asia during Indianized period. In other areas he did generally well.
@@weimingzhou7318 Your assertion about Manchu in Taiwan is nonsense. The Manchu language was in decline as early as the 1700s. The The Manchu language was not spoken widely by Manchus themselves, let alone Han Chinese. Han Chinese from Fujian province made up the majority of settlers in Taiwan, and they did not speak Manchu at all.
Japanese language did not have a strong hold in SEA countries before. only taiwan during japanese colonial rule absorbed a lot of japanese and parts of china also adopting some wasei kango terms. japanese rule over SEA countries in ww2 mainly encouraged the use of local mainstream languages instead because their propaganda ideal was to kick out western colonial rulers in favor of asians for asia with japan supposedly leading the pack. this was the idea behind greater east asia co-prosperity sphere, japanese only influenced taiwan, korea, manchuria, micronesia, hawaii, south sakhalin, south kurils, and the wasei kango terms adopted in china. the other japanese influences in SEA are more to do with pop culture and material trade influences just as now, anime is a big thing among many of the youth in SEA countries
what was big in SEA countries even centuries before was the spread of southern chinese languages, especially Hokkien, and sometimes Teochew, Cantonese, Hakka, and at times even Hokchew, Hinghwa, Hoisanese, Shantung, Kwongsai, etc.
@@weimingzhou7318 This map actually exaggerates the influence of the Manchu language, which in Qing China, outside of the imperial court in Beijing, was mainly confined to the 'Manchurian cities' established within the major cities of China. From the mid-Qing period onwards, it was also common for the Manchus to switch to Mandarin, based on the Beijing accent. By the end of the Qing Dynasty, even the Aisin Gioro royal family was not fluent in Manchu.
Interesting, the Korean peninsula was originally occupied by the ancestors of the Japanese, while the ancestors of the Koreans occupied southern Manchuria. I'm not sure, but I believe that what happened was a cascade of population shifts that started with the Tungusic and Sinitic peoples, causing the ancestors of the Koreans to occupy the current Korean peninsula while the ancestors of the Japanese had to move across the Sea of Japan to reach the current Japanese archipelago.
The indigenous peoples of the Liaodong Peninsula were attacked by Khitan C2 and Han O2a and were pushed into the mountainous areas of the south and east of the Korean Peninsula.
These groups are a haplogroup called O1b2a2a-L682, which is different from O1b2a1-47z in the western part of the Japanese archipelago.
Yayoi O1b2- M176 is a descendant of O1b1 in Southeast Asia and the Yangtze River coastal area of South China, and diverged about 30,000 years ago.
Since around 5000 BC, it has been divided, and O1b2- M176 has been introduced to the Japanese archipelago and the Korean peninsula.
-47z in the Japanese archipelago diverges earlier, so the group in the Japanese archipelago may have interbred with the indigenous people earlier.
Also, many people misunderstand that the D1a Jomon man from the north and the D1a Jomon man from the west have the same Y-chromosome DNA, but their mitochondrial DNA is completely different.
In other words, there were at least two types of Jomon people.
It is said that the Yayoi people migrated from the Korean Peninsula because the Jomon people who lived in the western part had mitochondrial DNA from Northeast Asia. It is natural to think that the Jomon people who came from all over the world were a different species because they had different languages.
In conclusion, the Yayoi people are an ethnic group that originated in the Japanese archipelago.
The O1b1 race, the parent of the Yayoi people, originated in Southeast Asia and speaks Proto-Austronesian.
The origin of Japanese is the language of the Jomon people who lived in the western part of the Japanese archipelago. The origin of the Ainu language is the Jomon people in the north.
The Ainu people are a mixture of the Jomon people of Hokkaido and the Okhotsk people (Russian Siberian minority) who came from Karafuto around the 13th century.
@@山田次郎-e8i Very interesting! Thanks
The Cascade does not start with the Tungusgic or Sinnic peoples. It started with Koreans pushing the Japonic Yayoi out of the peninsula whilst also having control and expanding into north east Manchuria. This corresponds with the expansion of Goguryeo and Beakje.
After the collapse of Goguryeo and Beakje due to Tang conquests, the Koreans are pressured out of Manchuria By sinnic peoples. But the Koreans bring in and band with the Tungusgic peoples from the northeast of Manchuria to repel the Chinese. This will be the foundation of Barlhae.
After a couple centuries Barlhae collapses due to a constant invasion of Khitans added with a sudden eruption of a supervolcano. The Khitans throughly and systematically remove the Koreans out of Manchuria, but leave the Tungusgic people be as they were not settled in the geography. This power vacuum of Koreans let the Tungusic people populate Manchuria and even establish their own independent state to the surprise of the Khitans.
@@山田次郎-e8i Sanada lol
Apparently, Japanese tried to reverse this process in 1592，1895,1905,1931 and 1937.
Amazing job! Now make one for every single Sinitic language because most aren't mutually intelligible. ;-)
Thank you very much. I have made the video about the Sinitic languages
The fact is india and china are most diverse countries in terms of linguistic diversity still they manges to bound all language in one common thing . I mean look how bad in start the linguistic where now all are related to a one Language as well as different from each other you can see this in entire india that how sanskrit , hindi is used all over india but as well as all different languages commonly share some similarities with devnagri it's so unique.
The Kra Dai's original place was on the opposite side of the island of Taiwan, so it had native Taiwanese DNA. When the Han migrated south, the Kra Dai migrated to the southwest and mixed with the Austro-Asiatic, so there was a gene flow from the Austo-Asiatic to the Kradai people When the Han people migrated south to southern China, some of the Kradai people migrated to Southeast Asia, where the Austo Asiatic people immigrated first. Austro Asiatic people had to migrate further south.
So we still have astroasiatic in Malaysia???
Yes,they can be found in the deep mountainous jungles
@@fayhay8011 Not really. There are tribal Austroasians among urban dwellers in Malaysia like my colleague from Semoq Beri tribe. Google the name and check
@@yimveerasak3543 Oh,I see
Aslian Languages
Orang Asli is Austroasiatic in Malaysia but they look nothing like East Asian. They look like Australian aboriginal
Where’s the language spoken in Tibet before Arunachal people came? Since Homo Sapiens live in Tibet for over 40 thousand years!
Wait there were negritos in south India?
What’s the difference between Turkic, Mongolic, & “Steppe Substrate”
Steppe substrate refers to un-classified steppe languages such as xiongnu etc
@@CostasMelas Do you think they are related to any modern languages unlike the substrates in Europe? I mean like Yenisei, Mongolic, Turkic, or any other paleosiberian languages for that matter.
@@CostasMelas Also before you do a worldwide language family video as it seems you’re coming on can you do a worldwide isolate language video?
@@Teapoid Chinese sources reported that Xiongnu language was almost same with Tiele which makes them Turkic with ease
Great job! You are amazing person in this RUclips jungle))
Thank you very much
Nice video
Thank you
@@CostasMelas My friend, where does the origin of the Turkic people come from?
@@kerimakt8295 Tuva, Buryatia, Mongolia
@@Nomadicenjoyer31 thanks I know you got out of there who was there before the Turkic and the Mongols
@@kerimakt8295 Turkic peoples were older than Mongolics in Mongolia.
So basically...
Koreans are from Manchuria
Japanese are from Korea
and Ainu are from Japan
nah
Ancient Korea is Ancient Manchuria
Ancient Japan is Ancient Korea
Ancient Jomonia is Ancient Japan
Ainu is mixed between northern jomon and unknown Siberian tribes
An inference based on linguistics. Don't trust it too much. Historically, there is not much evidence for this.
@@nose665 Historically and Archaeologically Koreans started and peaked around Southern Manchuria and Northern Korea. The Linguistics simply follow that historical information.
@@Wandrative Those were called Fuyu people, not exactly Korean. Korean people's ancestors are the Samhan people, they inhabited South Korea much like today.
Awesome video 📸
Thank you
Turks came to East Asia earlier. There were Turks in the Mongolian steppes and south of the Gobi Desert. Later they migrated west.
Knk Yunan bunu hazırlayan Türklere karşı ırkçı zaten belli.
@@tanhukim9963 Bilmiyorum. Yunan olduğundan dolayı kendisine "Türklere karşı ırkçı" diyemem, bu hatalı olur.
@@Secular_Turkish knk bugünkü Moğol steplerinde moğollardan önce biz vardık zaten. Altay sayan dağları arası, tuva, buryatya ve bugünkü moğolistanda bizler vardık zaten. Moğollarsa mançuryadan geliyor. Çinliler ile Moğollar tunguzlar bizi batıya doğru itelediler. Orta asyadaki Hint iranlıları da biz iteledik. Türk dil ailesi videosunda bile tarihimizi çok geç başlattı.
@@tanhukim9963 Evet biliyorum. Ben karşıt bir şey söylemedim ki.
@@Secular_Turkish daha doğrusu itelediğimiz azdır çünkü Hint iranlılar kazakistan ile Kırgızistan civarı bozkır (Kırgızistan dağlıktır çoğunluk) olduğundan dolayı Özbekistan,Türkmenistan ile Kazakistan'ın güneyi olan ekim alanlarına yerleştiler çoğunluk. Orta asyanın Türk olması da genelde Arap, çin, Moğol saldırıları sayesinde olmuştur. Ancak bunlar bizi suçluyor.
I appreciate the video obviously something like this will never be perfect which people need to remember. .
What’s the evidence of Dongyi speaking Japanese?
The history of the Gaoju is given in the respective entry in WS 103 + (pp. 2505-2508); until the beginning of Text 1.056/B it is extracted as follows.
高車,蓋古赤狄之餘種也初號為狄歷,北方以為敕勒,諸夏以為高車、丁零。 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之也。
The Gaoju are probably the remaining tribes of the ancient Chidi [lit. 'the red Di']. Initially they were called Dili. People in the north called them Chile, whereas people in China proper called them Gaoju or Dingling.
Their language is roughly the same as that of the Xiongnu but at times has minor differences from that. Some say that their ancestors were the nephew of [i.e. indirectly related to] the Xiongnu.
The light-blue shade should available in Pattani and Narathiwat to this day
Kradai moved southwest from their original coatal area opposite taiwan
Nice job on such a difficult task! This is a masterpiece!
Thank you very much
Not a masterpiece...contains misinformation.
Not masterpiece... too much incorrect information.
Despite the depiction of Wusun speaking Indo-Aryan and Eastern South Asia (not Southeast Asia!) speaking entirely Munda, I would say the video is very nice!
Edit: I would also say that the Iranian-representing lines in Asia during the Muslim rule are too many, and thus signifying lots of Iranian speakers, when in fact, it was just the military-administrative class. So I expected that to have fewer lines (like 1880's China). Still a great video and your efforts are appreciated since no other person has ever embarked on this project but you.
Thank you
Love your video ❤
Thank you very much
Fascinating how so many language families began in China
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Only one language family began in China. And its the sinitic oneZ
They were not China before. So weren't other countries.
Many superior Vietnamese people will not accept this truth. because they believed that the Austronesians did not come from coastal China and Taiwan. They considered the Austronesians to be backward tribes.
Doing God's work. Keep it up!
Thank you
Time to revisit this and I am shocked to see that Tibet is blank before Tibeto Burman expansion when _definitely_ ancient highlanders lived there.
At the beginning of the video, Tibet does not look blank. It was lightly occupied by Tibeto-Burman speakers
The way language of Thailand changed position was interesting
Good video, I expect a video of the pre-Columbian languages of America, there are two theories which says that there are three families of languages the Na-dene, the Amerindian and the Eskimo-Aleutian and the other theory what says that there are many families of languages
Thank you
During World War II, the Takasago people of Taiwan, who were drafted into the Japanese army, played an active role in interpreting with the local people in Southeast Asia.
Oh a random Japanese on the internet who knows the what happened in the World War II especially those “Japanese army”. 😂😂😂
interpreting？ you mean killing,right?
@@唯一神-u2b
As soldiers, they may have fulfilled that role, but that's not what I mean. As you can see from the video, the language of Taiwan is similar to the languages of Southeast Asia, so the Takasago tribe, who was educated in Japanese at the time, was able to translate it.
@@Reimu2023 As far as I know, China, Korea, and ten ASEAN countries, all Japanese colonized people were forced to learn Japanese.Why are you emphasizing this minority? All are the same.You even call them by colonial name, their real name is Gaoshan.
@@唯一神-u2b
Excuse me, Takasago is just a Japanese name. I understand that there is a name Gaoshan. I heard that Japanese language education was conducted in Southeast Asia during the war, but of course they were not able to speak Japanese from the beginning. The interpreter by Gaoshan was helpful at first.
There should be a "Tibetan Highlands Substrate" language in Tibet prior to the arrival to ST Zhangzhung and predecessors. The region was inhabited since before the Neolithic. Kusunda, a language isolate near the Himalayas lacks retroflex consonants and instead has uvular consonants, more common to Siberian languages. I hypothesise Kusunda is the sole descendant of the languages spoken by pre-ST Tibetan Highlanders.
Thank you for the additional information. Feedback is helpful to improve. I may included in a later video or remake
AMAZING WORK!
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Great video 💙🌏
Thank you
Afro-Asiatic languages are next!
What is the modern surviving member / member(s) of the Negrito Substrate?
Andaman languages
@@CostasMelas Thank you. Are you sure they can all be grouped in the same substratum group?
@@CostasMelas only in sentry island?
Very interesting video. I know you will make it! I hope you will made videos about japonic and ainu languages.
Thank you
So is this the reason why ancient indian scriptures used to consider land of Modern day Bihar, bengal odisha and Assam as barbaric
Cuz the region was predominately Austroasiatic language speaker
You might also wish to make a video on Filipino languages, if possible.
Another amazing video! Big fan over here, it would really help to have a BC or CE to differentiate timelines. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much
Nah it’s fine
I find Hmong-Mien language family to be the one that's not talked about much in comparison to other nearby major language families. It's like right in the middle of East Asia surrounded by Sinitic languages to the north, Austronesian languages to the east, Kra-Dai languages to the south, and Austroasiatic languages to the southwest. I find them to be special as they share a lot of linguistic features with their surroundings like they are extremely tonal, analytic, and have similar grammar and consonant and vowel sound sets. But it's interesting that they are their own family tree. I'm a Hmong person who is still able to speak Hmong but not to the degree of a proficient speaker conversationally. I am still able to understand and able to pronounce words. The Hmong language is interesting in that in my dialect, it has 56 consonants,13 vowels (6 simple vowels, 2 nasal vowels, and 5 diphthongs), and 8 tones. Anyway, that's all I want to say.
Ua tsaug uas koj tau tso ib daim video hais txog cov lus cov keeb kwm rau peb saib tias ntau ntau haiv neeg cov lus thaum ub tau pib tawm mus li cas los yog nyob li cas.
(Thank you for putting out this video showcasing the history of these languages for us to see how it moves and where it stays).
Have a nice day.
[Edited]: Oh btw, I'm a very young person who is still able to speak and understand Hmong, but a couple of people around my age and younger aren't speaking much. It's pretty understandable as we are surrounded by the majority language.
I hope the Hmong language and culture shall be preserved.
Many superior Vietnamese people will not accept this truth. because they believed that the Austronesians did not come from coastal China and Taiwan. They considered the Austronesians to be backward tribes.
The origin of the austronesian languages is in Formosa Island(3000 B.C.) but nowadays the genetic of the Taiwan people is chinese xd
Chinese immigrants overrided many natives out of their land. There is a reason many countries in the world don't usually allow Chinese passport holders visa-free or visa-on-arrival when they travel
austronesian languages come from Fujian
Fujian to tawain-phillippines.... Austronesian have O1a DNA paternal haplo group. Like modern day Filipino and native taiwanese
In many regards this is a sad map, for example the forced migration of the Dai peoples from southern China into modern day Thailand and the corresponding marginalisation of Malays and Cambodians. There must have been so much suffering.
This could be a reason why Cambodian nowadays blame Thailand for stealing their Khmer culture because they think the Thai originally came from South China and displaced their Austroasiatic ancestors and made their territory shrink into their current size.
Suffering from what exactly?
@@JEMXliveChannel Bloodshed, famine, poverty, disease. All the things that usually happen when a people are robbed of their land. Ask the Armenians or the Cherokee.
@@kubhlaikhan2015 Armenians?
Well, that's history, these things happen all the time. You pity the Dai peoples, Malays and Cambodians for their forced migration, but do they live there in the first place? Don't they migrate form other places either?
Cool video😎
Thank you
@@CostasMelas no problem😎
3500 year ago south of china(guangdong and guangxi,fujian...) is tai kradai???china called them is baiyue...and we in vn also claim them is việt people...but in this video they are tai kadrai ???? Wow very weird to me... So astroasiatic and taikadai is similar because china all called them is baiyue(百越bách việt)....🙃🙃🙃🤣🤣😁😁😁
How would one represent languages that were create from merging two different languages? (Cantonese hakka vietnamese)
Sán Dìu language (/saːn ziw) in the Northern Midlands of Vietnam, Hakka-based language, strongly Cantonesized, recently Vietnamesized in pronunciation.
the way mixed languages or creoles work is that there will always be a base substratum language that acts as the foundation, then depending on how high the admixture and loaning is, there will be an adstratum language acting as its superstrate heavily influencing it. how would one represent it? well, one would have to choose the inherent genetic base of the foundational structure. it is just very characteristic for that language to have a lot of influence from other languages. for example, english is base germanic, but throughout the millennia has had a lot of romance influence and some celtic influence, so it's basically a germanic language that has a lot of italo-celtic influence
cantonese and hakka are base sinitic languages with a lot of very old tai-kra, hmong-mien, and some austroasiatic ancient substrate loans. this is because of a high amount of assimilated tai-kra, hmong-mien, and austroasiatic peoples that shifted to a sinitic language with their former tai-kra, hmong-mien, and austroasiatic languages leaving remainder substrate words that got borrowed in long ago into cantonese and hakka around 2000 or 1000 years ago. meanwhile, vietnamese is a base austroasiatic language with a high amount of sinitic, tai-kra, and some hmong-mien loans, which is also a result of its history taking in and assimilating a lot of sinitic, tai-kra, and hmong-mien migrants to its base kinh population.
Cantonese, Hakka is not mixed language, Vietnamese is a mixed language!Vietnamese is the birth of the Khmer tribe colonized by the Han people, and the paternal lineage and surname of the original Jing people who led Vietnam's independence came from the Han people! However, during the reign of China, Khmer tribes and primitive Jing people were not accepted by the Han people and could only be slaves.Vietnamese (Khmer-Chinese Cantonese fusion language) was produced by the thousand-year rule history of Chinese！Modern Jing people have about 20% of the population of Han descent! Light complexion, high nose and thin lips, it is easy to identify Han descent!
@@知-k3qYou are wrong. Vietnamese are the descendants of the Muong ethnicity. The Muong call themselves Mon or Mol, no way Khmer at all. Even the Khmer Empire used to have the Mon people but the Mon people didn't consider themselves the Khmer (yup even the language they spoke are from the same language group). Truth is the Mon in the Khmer Empire were assimilated into the Thai population even more than the Khmer. Vietnamese were mixed with some Chinese during 1000 years of Chinese dominant was something inevitable.
are the early stripes over peninsular southeast asia basically negrito substrate too? like Hoabinhian is Negrito as well?
Yes. Negrito substratum languages still survive in the Andaman Islands, west of the Malay Peninsula
@@CostasMelas 🤔i been wondering lately what couldve come before austroasiatics went down south from modern-day southwest china to northern vietnam, laos, myanmar sorta area. i wonder if many millennia ago, all of southeast asia was just negritoland. maybe the ancestors of semang and maniq people now speaking aslian languages were those ancient hoabinhian hunter-gatherers that also sailed over to andaman islands
@@xXxSkyViperxXx According to Wikipedia, two individuals belonging to the Hoabinhian culture (one from Laos, one from Malaysia) had their DNA extracted and their closest relatives are the present day Andamanese and Semang. So I guess Southeast Asia was pretty much Negrito back then.
So, Japanese(Yamato) are from Korea and Koreans are from Manchuria
Orang korea itu orang mongol
Japanese are Jomon+Yayoi(Proto-japonic).
Korean are Yemaek(proto-Koreanic)+Proto-Japonic.
@@NYnG2154 Korean and Mongolian are not similar in genetics.
😘Good video. However I think there is some small errors in the video. In Qing Dynasty, han people still speak mandarin. Nearly no one speaks manchu language, for their population is so small. All manchu nobles start to speak mandarin. In 1690s, even some princesses can not speak Manchu language well. After 100 years, nearly no one can speak it but the royal family. Well Manchu language greatly affected Beijing dialect and mandarin. Current standard madarin is based on places with many Manchu people. So what is interesting is that Manchu people speak mandarin and Beijing dialect best when 100 years ago.
Thank you. Manchu remained typically as co-official
Wait, is IT real? That thai language was originally spoke în southern China and after a certain period did they migrate to present thailand?
Yes, see also the video about the Kra-Dai languages
Yes.
Yes, even in the modern time now the Tai-Kradai language family is still spoken among the Zhuang minority in Guangxi (#1 largest ethnic minority of China, and also the #2 ethnic population after Han Chinese). Southwest of China has Xishuangbanna Dai autonomous prefecture to preserve its Dai/Tai culture where the language, clothes, food, customs are the same like you are in North Thailand
ชาวไทย ถูกมองโกลขับไล่ลงมาทางใต้ เราเคยอาศัยอยู่แถวปากแม่น้ำแยงซีเกียง ยังมี12ปันนาไท ที่ยังพูดภาษา kra dai หลงเหลืออยู่ที่นั่น ในเขต มณฑลยูนนาน ในประเทศจีน พื้นที่แห่งนี้มีวัฒนธรรมที่แตกต่างจากชาวจีนฮั่น ทั้งประชากร สถาปัตยกรรม ภาษา และวัฒนธรรม ชาวไทลื้อ นั้นมีความคล้ายคลึงกับของชาวไทใหญ่ ชาวไทเขิน และชาวไทยวน เป็นอย่างมาก รวมไปถึงชาวไทยและชาวลาว และทั้งหมดยังพูดภาษา คร้าไทย หรือที่รู้จักในชื่อภาษาอังกฤษว่า Kra-Dai
เขตปกครองตนเองชนชาติไท สิบสองปันนา หรือชื่อย่อว่า ซีไต่ เป็นเขตปกครองตนเองระดับจังหวัดของชาวไทลื้อ ตั้งอยู่ทางใต้สุดของมณฑลยูนนาน ประเทศจีน มีเมืองหลวง คือ เมืองเชียงรุ่ง เมืองที่ใหญ่ที่สุดในพื้นที่และมีแม่น้ำโขงไหลผ่าน ซึ่งในประเทศจีนเรียกว่า "แม่น้ำหลานชาง" ที่นั่น ยังมีวัดไทย และมีวันสงกรานต์ แบบไทย ยังคงรักษาวัฒนธรรมดั่งเดิมไว้
@@lieu4749 thank you, I understood every word 🤣😖
Pretty wild to think about that the Austronesian, Tai, Korean and Japanese people all had their original homeland in modern-day China, before they were all gradually pushed away east or south by the Sinitic-speaking people over the centuries. Austronesian Taiwan being an island also managed to resist Sinitic expansion until like the 1700s before eventually being overtaken by Sinitic-speaking people too.
There was no change in the standing of Austronesian languages in the Philippines past 1565. Just good ol' borrowing of some words that everyone in the world has been doing for ages. Nobody was natively speaking Castilian in the country except like 5% max of the population, all of them being Spaniards. All of them were workers for the kingdom so most already left when Spain no longer had any claims over the country.
this not a mapping video of native speakers.
Korea and chinese japonic?
Epic!
Thank you
I still cant wrap my head around how far the Thai group was displaced from south China, and how recent the consolidation of the Thai mainland was.
How did that look like to the AustroAsiatics living in pre-Thailand? Were Thais these waves of mountainfolk that came down from the hills and mannaged to overrun and supplant the agricultural plains civilization and assimilated them to the Thai nation in a matter of centuries?
This could be a reason why Cambodian nowadays blame Thailand for stealing their Khmer culture because they think the Thai originally came from South China and displaced their Austroasiatic ancestors and made their territory shrink into their current size.
@@Vandyke0147 Not 100% sure (I'm not Thai or mainland Southeast Asian) but I think most of the Thais displaced and assimilated are actually the Mon and some more tribal Austroasiatics. Some well known Muay Thai practitioners like Tony Jaa and Buakaw are actually ethnic Kuy who are Austroasiatics from Thailand near the Cambodian border. The Mon were displaced and assimilated in Myanmar too by the Burmese.
@@Vandyke0147 3500 year ago south of china(guandong and guangxi) is tai kradai???china called them is baiyue...and we in vn also claim them is việt people...but in this video they are tai kadrai ???? Wow very weir to me... So astroasiatic and taikadai is similar because china all called them is baiyue(百越bách việt)....🙃🙃🙃
@@ucchau173 the Tai-Kradai group was also part of the Baiyue category
it was akin to the germanics pouring into the roman empire. thai = germanics. khmer = romans
Your videos are excelent, but why are they so blurry?
Thank you. Try setting the resolution to 1080
So funny how Greek is on here for a bit. Crazy.
The Japonic migration (and the suspensful music) from one place to another is almost like a symbolic metaphor of the total 30 years of my life so far. Very poetic in a sense and very accurate!
very interesting 👍
Thank you
Sorprende que el _Italic_ hablado en Filipinas sea el Español, Chabacano y otros
Chavacano is a spanish creocle 👍🏻, tho the Filipino languages are Austronesians, such as Cebuano, Tagalog, Waray, Maranao, and etc.
Only Chavacano is actually Italic and it’s located only on a small part in the Southern Philippines
Pues el país fue parte del imperio español, específicamente de Nueva España (en México), durante el siglo XVI hasta XIX.
Que desgracia que se haya perdido. Era el idioma mas exótico de asia.
@@Rivan98 queda el chabacano y otras en esas islas
Mongolian language also has a small amount of distribution in Qinghai Province
yes, i think they came from mongolia in the 16th-17th century. While Hui came in the 18th-19th century when qing annexed it and called it qing hai.
Aslian is a native tribe of the Malay peninsula?
They're considered to be negritos , because theirs skin are quite dark and have papuan phenotypes, but they're speaking Austroasiatic languages
Thanks
I remember that my father told me that there were many malay villages at Vietnam then they were slaughtered by the Vietnamese kingdom.After attending history class,he was referring to the Champas,the Champas & the Malays are so similar to each other to the point it can be considered as one ethnic group.It's interesting to see how The Malays & the Champas spread throughout mainland SE Asia & it saddens me of when the Champas were slaughtered & reduced to pocket-sized community.This thing also happens to the Malays at southern Thailand where the military massacred them
No slaughter, just be assimilated. I can easily spot Kinh people with Cham features in the Central provinces of Vietnam. Ancient Vietnam always population was very low (1/20 to 1/10 of today's population) so it always lacked people to work. Why have to kill when you can let them work and tax them. They even welcomed Ming refugees to reclaim Southern Vietnam.
@@vanhoang4587 Ohhh,I see,thanks for informing me
Thats why there is a place called Pengkalan Chepa in Malaysia.
@@flaextreme1496 The town is created because of the massacre?
@@fayhay8011 The district was probably named after the fleeing chams who decided to settle in the area. Cham expulsion happened several times from 15th century to 18th century and most of the time they would flee to the east coast of Malay peninsular.
So Xiongnu spoke steppe substrate?
Yes
@@CostasMelas what’s the evidence?
They spoke a Turkic language which was closely related to Tiele.
@@CostasMelas they were speaking a turkic language
Have we actually gotten worlds from this Negrito Substrate in Dravidian and especially Tamil and/or in Austroasiatic.
And are we sure that Austroasiatic speakers are the first Genetic West Eurasians to make it into that area?.
Negrito peoples preceded
@@CostasMelas have we extracted any words in dravidian and austroasiatic of this negrito subtrate?.
Austroasiatic speakers are genetic West Eurasian? Don't you mean East Eurasian?
Some Philippine Negrito languages actually retains words from this Negrito Substrate because they don't exist in the more mainstream Philippine Austronesian languages.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Negrito_languages#Unique_vocabulary
@@JcDizon Yeah, I meant East Asian. Andamanese group with East Asians.
Okay do we have any idea if those Philippine Negrito Substrate are related to any extant languages?.
@@CostasMelas do negrito languages still exist today?
what is steppe substrate?
The hypothetical language of Xiongnu
Languages of the Middle East would be really amazing. Think of all the Afro-Asiatic languages, Meroitic, Sumerian, Elamite, Dravidian, Harappan, Hattic, Hurro-Urartian, Kaskian, Kassite, Kartvelian, Northeast Caucasian, Northwest Caucasian, Gutian, Proto-Euphratean
Not to mention the Turkic and Indo-European invasions. That place might be crazier than anywhere else.
Based Hattians who were first and real Anatolian peoples.
I'm pretty sure he already did a video on this
Chad Indo-Europeans.
You had to write your comment in an Indo-European language
@@ghs89 🤣
@@ghs89 Early European Farmers > Indo-Europeans
What is the steppe substrate? Yeniseian?
Μore related to Proto-Altaic
It's a shame that the video was uploaded in such low quality.
What's with japonaic launguage being used in Korea?
Peninsular Japonic(반도일본어설)
알렉산더 보빈의 반도일본어설.