God of War Ragnarok - What Is The MYSTERY BEHIND THE MASK?
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Before God of War Ragnarok launched, many of us had an idea in our heads of how its story would go, and how it would conclude the series' Norse saga. As is often the case with hugely popular story-driven franchises, theories were a dime a dozen about more than a few unresolved plot threads.
Sure enough, some of those theories turned out to be accurate- but it's fair to say that in some of its biggest and most pivotal moments, God of War Ragnarok defies expectations. From beginning to end, its plot keeps finding ways to unfold in ways that we don't see coming, and introduces several major elements that define the narrative's flow in fundamental ways.
I want to help answer half of these questions no one seems to know. The story answers half of these during the trip to ironwood and everyone misses the answers.
1. First of all the mask is a direct link to Utgard, the dream realm created by Ymir, and spoken by Angrboda during your trip when you first arrive in Ironwood.
2. When Atreus first starts dreaming you can see him holding the mask completely intact in his hands.
I think all Giants have the ability to access Utgard and only the giants do. When Odin killed Ymir the Giants gained the dream world and Prophecy from Utgard and no one else did. Odin is trying and has been trying to get the last piece of Ymir's gifts since he killed him and got the first mask piece and the rift appeared. He also needs Atreus to open the rift with the mask because only a Giant can open the way for him. when Loki breaks the mask and Odin loses every piece at the end, Odin knows he will never get access to Utgard ever again at this point. No powers of Prophesy and to know "What happens next." As Odin said very specifically. Power only the Giants have.
Dam good comment. Didn't even realize half the stuff you said about ironwood. Didn't pat attention good enough.
So Atreus was also Utgard Loki from the myths ?
But Utangard is yellow. The mask is green. They're clearly not the same.
And what about the greek inscriptions on the mask?
so if only giants can look through it’d be another level of irony that Odin completely overlooks his half-giant son Thor
On a meta level it’s interesting to me that the meaning Odin ascribes to the rift is the reason why humans throughout history have created mythology in the first place. We’re looking for meaning, looking for answers to assuage our doubt and confusion.
Yeah they are trying to get the knowledge of their gods, the human creators. Odin wanted more than just a story.
More like a developer rooms that we find in some videogames like Chrono trigger.
Doesnt Odin view it as answers for him. The people have the gods, but Odin, Thor etc have no such thing. He kinda sees it as an answer to things normally only reserved for humans since they have questions gods have answers to. I think he talks about his own existence somewhere aswell. Its kinda like the norse gods finding there own faith or trying to better understand there own place in the universe.
God of war is a series based on Agnostic christianity. the belief where all mythologies are connected but rule different regions on earth.
But in Catholic Christianity. Catholics believe the reason these “mythologies existed” is because Fallen Angels would rule over different regions during the time.
Maybe thats what they are too in a way idk
Explains all religions... and shows you how silly they really are lol
I feel like the Mask and that rift is connected to something bigger than Norse mythology. Something lying at the heart of the God of War universe as a whole that connects everything together.
I like to believe it's the fourth wall
I was expecting it to tie into how Kratos made it to the Norse world
@@chase_h.01 He just walked. Not even joking, it was in a comic. He just walked to Scandinavia.
@@gavo7911 actually not entirely true. He also used a boat😂
Jim Carey’s The Mask to put it short...
Its all connected through every universe even ours imagine a scene where Atreus or Kratos puts on the Mask and look at the Camera and are spooked by you the player, you then try to communicate but then are interrupted by the game developers aka Cory Barlog. That would nutty!
I remember in God of War ascension there was this odd Easter egg that was a painting that initially appeared to show Olympus in turmoil. It had the description "Of all the prophecies I have seen, this one haunts my dreams." Then it had a code you had to transcribe in the form of a puzzle in game. When you did this it changed and it showed the earth kind of transforming. There was a big green light at it's source and the new description read "When the earth stops, the journey begins.." Not sure if this may be relevant but if you look at the painting the color of the light seems to sort of match up with the rift.
That was supposed to build up hype for a game Stig Asmussen (God of War III's director) was working on
There was no other hint given to what that game was about. They might have integrated that into the GoW universe probably
@@labubasi what was the game
Atreus after wearing the mask : SMOOOOOKIN'!
Causes cancer
Kratos said a few times through the game that every shortcut to a great power has a big setback, and we know Kratos had a lifetime lessons based on his wrong choices to achieve great power.
So it was about Artreus not walking in his path but a better one.
'We must be better' message was all over both games.
On the other Hand Kratos always got more power through beings more powerfull than him that fucked him over. But then the Blades of Exile and Athena where just gifted to him without drawbacks.
@@DundG
Blades of exiled where merely an upgrade, they even changed back to original after.
But great power that fucked Kratos where blades of chaos making the pact with Ares for his life, pandora box after killing Ares and being named god of war,etc.
@@justgoogleit7879 Yeah I agree that for some there where HUGE drawbacks. But him being named god of war instead of Hercules and given the Blades of Athene had no drawbacks whatsoever. He has lost everything if you remember, wanting to kill himself. Kratos himself thrn abused his powers until the gods killed him.
@@DundG
Him being named god of war wasn't a bad thing for him, but after that he got betrayed, and it wasn't just because he abused his powers, it was more about the prophecy that sons kill their fathers and Zeus was afraid of that.
He even told the prophecy story in the latest GOW game, that the god of war will destroy the Olympus, at first they thought it was Ares who'll destroy Olympus, but after Kratos killed Ares the prophecy still remained and Kratos was named Gow by then so Zeus realized that it was Kratos all along who'll destroy Olympus and he decided to betray him.
And that was the only reason why they helped him kill Ares in the first place, so they could save their own assess.
So the drawback of him being named Gow was that he was used either way and when not needed and seen as a threat he was killed.
@@justgoogleit7879 That is hardly a drawback if any option entails it, is it? The option to gain immediate power back is still better than not becoming god of war and still getting tossed away by the gods. Kratos was fcked regardless of choice but becoming the god if war at least fed his ego enough that he did not gave himself up to suicide, but revenge and in the end a second chance with Atreus.
So this shortcut in power was actually the beginning if his freedom from the gods. No drawbacks in accepting this immediate power gain that makes it worse or at least equal than naturally growing.
I think it maybe a thread of "cosmic" type power that connects all the different god pantheons. A power that predates these "gods"
I think it's a rift to the higher plane of existence that Athena ascended to. The "real world" as some of the devs call it
@@jhevgainz2307 that’s what I’ve been thinking the whole time, it just makes the most sense.
I think it could possibly be a primordial energy linked to a higher deity, perhaps the one God of Abraham.
@@AimForMyHead81 😂😂😂
It would actually be crazy that all these lesser gods/realities are just constructs of the 'god of Abraham' or THE actual God.
To me, that was the point: Odin spent his life seeking answers, destroying anyone in the process. Loki became obsessed with answers. If you played a drinking game of how many times Atreus screamed “I neED AnSWerS!!” you’d be dead drunk before the second act. The entire plot of the story was about letting go. All of the characters went through it, some successfully, some failed. In the end, Atreus decided he didn’t need specific answers anymore. He broke the mcguffin and let go, and because both he and kratos changed (the Norns said there is no fate only choices and those choices are predictable because people don’t change), they averted the prophecy. The point wasn’t what the mask and rift contain, the point was letting go and finding your own way. The mask and rift didn’t matter. And it won’t in the future.
And to travel to other realms, they have tyr, who travelled many pantheons on his own accord. They don’t need a magical rift…and I’m sure Atreus can transform into a falcon or do “giant stuff” to get to other pantheons to find his fellow giants.
Well said man!
i like your interpretation on the ending
Yeah and in the comics Kratos just literally shows up in different pantheons no magic he just shows up there no explanation so Atreus can do the same and I agree the mask probably doesn’t mean anything it was more just a way to reinforce the moral of the game which I believe is to not be blinded by prophecy and make ur own path as Kratos says
what do you mean by they have tyr? THERE IS NO TYR.
I always go back to what Kratos said about the mask. Something along the lines of, “shortcuts, easy answers all come at a price”. Makes me wonder if Loki would have survived the rift, even with a complete mask and Odin was using him as the necessary sacrifice.
The green hue is very similar to the green hue of Athena after she transcended to a higher realm. Maybe that is where the rift leads.
Even better, the words 'obsidiani spitha' are Greek. So its definitely tied to Athena and the transcendent place she reached after Kratos killed her.
@@Exxt3R there are also Asian characters and Egyptian hieroglyphics on the mask as well
I came here to say this.
Odin’s eye is still in the rift he might come back in later games through Egypt or Asia
It’s from the movie the mask which the mask was based off of Loki’s lore, and Stanley ipkiss had it.
Yeah, people are pretty dumb. Made a whole ass video to say something that really should be common knowledge.
No the mask is NOT in Norse myths, it's form the comics of the same name. These comics inspired the movies
There is no loki mask in norse myth, that whole thing was made up for the mask movie
@@gonhunter3994 it's also not from the mask comic. In the comic, the mask is from South America, and is the result of shamanic magic
Literally facts
The fact that the mask was not explained and just destroyed ticked me off
Agreed. I was a bit disappointed
its definitely gonna come back one way or another, feel like its the main thing for gow now
Bro it was fixed in 1990 u seen the movie the mask with Jim Carrey literally based off this mask loll
@@Fuckshaqratty Bro what are you smokin?
Bro for real. I was pissed when he broke the mask and wanted him to wear it and see whats inside, atleast have different endings….
I’m sure Odin lied about looking into the rift. Mimir already told us how he lost his eye. I think Odin had someone else try to look into it
how he lost it?
@@omerhakimi37 Mimir tricked him into plucking it out
Mimir gave him some shrooms, and he saw something that made him pluck his eye out. Maybe he saw a little behind the rift.
That mask has the power to turn people into cartoon characters. Did you see what it did to Stanley Ipkiss?
Ya know that the mask and the tear in reality resemble the green energy Athena had when she was "in higher existence" could the mask reveal life beyond the gods???
That is exactly my theory. You know how Athena descended and she changed completely and looked at Zeus like he was an inferior being. Bro, I think the gods of that plane of existence created Ymir and Chaos and put everything in motion. I also think that they were the ones who created the marked warrior us to uproot the tyrannical rule of the gods. Athena went to was with them and retreated and asked for the power of hope to combat them again you know.
What if this rift ventures into the realm of Azathoth?
@@lcggr0022 what is that, I politely ask??
@@DraggyCash An old one from lovecraft
If Atreus had put it on:
"SSSSSSSSSSSSOMEBODY STOP ME"
I just re-played the game and noticed another detail. When first entering iron wood you have a dream sequence where there is the mask. I looked at it close and recognized 3 differend language-symbols. There are : Russian inscriptions (or some european languange), Chinese marks and Egyptian marks. I think we can predict where next games will takes us....
It's Greek!!!
I’ve been paused on that same cutscene for 3 hours now trying to find a breakdown on how to translate it, the left side of the mask is definitely Ancient Greek, the middle is of Asian descent (this is what I’ve been stuck on the longest) and then Egyptian hieroglyphics, I don’t know if it’s traditional or simplified Chinese, and Japanese doesn’t pull anything up. Im starting on the hieroglyphs right now but I can only decode the basic stuff with a key
@@joeyzigman3223 You figure it out???
@daveonturner8438 I'm Greek some are Greek....The others probably Egyptian and Japanese!
@@alex28zap thanks goku! Do u think think the next game will take us down the path of Egyptian mythology or Japanese mythology?
Loki’s mask gives him the ability to the toon force and summon a tommy gun
Jim Carry's movie "The Mask" is about a man who finds a mask that once belonged to Norse God Loki... maybe this was a funny easter egg in relation to the 1994 movie. The mask even looks identical to the one in the movie.
I personally loved god of war ragnarock and I was also intrigue about the Loki mask.
This mask is indeed one of the biggest mysteries in God Of War Ragnarok. Maybe it’s a key to another universe or power to obtain all the knowledge of the universe or even multiverses. We don’t know. Maybe they’ll explain it in future sequels.
Look at jim Carey movie the mask it says that the mask belonged to Norse god Loki
@@cyruskelly2597nah shit
Egyptian Gods will definitely get involved in the sequel, there are just too many pantheons there for the creators to explore.
I really do hope they go the Egyptian route too. Everyone I've talked to even before ragnarok was released, were wanting it to go in that direction. Like you said too the number of ways they could go about it. How cool would it be they come out a portal and the pyramids are right in front of kratos, attreus, mimir, and freya. With the sphynx in between them
@@Dan-sc1gr Indeed that would be something, if i recall the Creators had a concept art about God of war 4 to be originally set in Egypt, they might just revive that in the sequelconsidering everything.
@@Dan-sc1gr some of the comics are set in Egypt and the Egyptian people know Kratos already so it’s very likely that’s where the next game will be but I’d prefer a different pantheon because everybody thinks Egypt and I feel like just a less expected pantheon would be better
In the comics kratos goes to Egypt before norse im pretty sure
Don't forget when atreus had that dream earlier in the game the mask was present there as well
Lot of youtuber’s missed this as well. Even fake Tyr told that not all giants have seen it in their dreams as well
Will Kratos hook up with Freya? That’s what I want to know.
It's inevitable. Freya has strong maternal instincts and Kratos has prime genetics.
@@polymathecian Would Freya marry the man who killed her son tho?
Doesn’t seem right that she marries the man who killed her son…
@@Jaanikins her son tried to kill him, his child, and her, plus she drove him insane and she knows it I think there are some extenuating circumstances here to consider not like he just capped him for no reason really he saved her life
@@santiagobarratt-boyes5558 Would be a funny interaction
Kratos to Freya: "Don't ever think about protecting Atreus from harm. it backfired once... I will not forgive a second mistake like that"
Is it possible that Odin only half needed Atreus to get the mask and could have got it without him? Odin says he can't read Greek, but he may simply be lying. He was more interested in having Atreus as a disciple. In the section where Atreus frees Garm, the mask is for some reason attracted towards Garm even though Garm has no soul. It's possible that the mask piece was planted to move Atreus towards Garm, Heimdall mentions to Odin after Garm is freed that his part of the mission went well and that he obtained what was needed, so Heimdall may have planted the mask piece and then moved it to a different location. Odin knew that Atreus would free Garm (he seems strangely not bothered when Atreus tells him) but thought that when Atreus went back to Sindri and Brok's house, Kratos would join in with the others criticising him and drive Atreus back to Asgard for good. He didn't realise that Kratos would instead show wisdom, forgiving Atreus and that they would instead go and fix the problem together.
no my friend. heimdall went to Vanaheim to steal he "moon" from that wolf.
It's obvious at the end of the game he becomes a banker and starts doing crazy shenanigans
Wolf of Wallstreet?
@@dreamxhollow the mask -_-
I’m wondering if where you find the pieces is connected to Ragnarok somehow. 🤔 The rift seems almost like a marker for Ragnarok to strike.
I think the mask represents something else about existence in the GOW universe. I think the mask points to the source of all creation. I think all of the realms and different pantheons emerge from this source. I think Athena might have something to do with this and elevated to this state (the color scheme is the same). Either this or it’s from another god in the Norse pantheon or another pantheon.
It’s uttanguard the giant dream world
@@fletcherfin9350I think Athena's behind the mask she hates kratos and would want her son to die or be hurt mentally. She would want something to happen to Atreus and the mask is green like her. She tricked young kratos and maybe Odin
Atreus is fine as a side character, but if they try to "switch things up" for a "modern audience", I will be out. The next installment better not be "God of Mischief"
I thought Odin lied about his eye in that scene. Like, didn't Mimir say it was him giving Odin that spiked to helheim drink that caused him to tear his eye out? The reason that Odin took Mimir's other eye and hid it in the Statue of Thor before the events of Dad of Boi?
I noticed this too..... And yeah.. it bugs me
Theres the total possibility that he used some Vanir magic to heal his eye after he tore it out himself, and then sometime down the road he stuck his face into the crack and it magically burnt away his eye, and he couldn’t do anything about it.
Atreus asks Mimir about this and Mimir very carefully dances around explicitly stating that Ođin lied. He simply says that liars can be relied on to lie. That being said, knowing Mimir is actually Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream I actively believe Mimir was trying his absolute hardest to not explicitly lie but also not confirm that Ođin actually is telling the truth in a very faerie like way.
@@jessebridgeman767 ...so that's why the Norns called Mimir "Puck"...
@@ULTIMATZEKROM yup!
Aren’t the pieces of the mask in each of the primordial realms ? I remember there being some larger significance of those realms being mentioned at “the spark of creation”
I full stop though they were going to bring the Cthulhu mythos in. Like Odin uses the mask and is destroyed with madness. Then you hear a booming otherworldly voice (like Dormin’s voice from Shadow of the Colossus but blatantly hostile). That would be an awesome direction.
I absolutely agree, Lovecraftian bullshit would be a cool thing for the series to cover.
Bigger question is who told odin to go find it.
Me
Theoretically, possibly a Greek God!
Theoretically, possibly a Greek God!
Athena
First thing I thought when seeing the rift is the higher plane Athena now belongs to.
I love how the Jim Carrey movie mask and the mask in GoW share a very similar look
I think the reason for the Mask was to give Odin a plot motivation to give Thor and Atreus time together. It simultaneously gave Thor and Atreus time to connect to show the full nature of Thor, his pain and his family struggles, as well as reinforce the image of Odin the story had been pressing all along: knowledge-hungry at any and all costs, sacrificing the better parts of himself to achieve his goals (which is precisely what Kratos later urges Atreus never to do.)
I think the mask would let them see into the real world and see their creation like the source wall in DC
I think this as well
I like the game but I'm frustrated that there are so many questions that they never answered not just about the mask but about the horn, the picture of Kratos is death in the last game, how the world serpent works, ect
and who blew the horn in the first game
Well Kratos death was a prophecy but as we know prophecy is depicted by the murals but Kratos has defied fate and prophecy before the world seen in Midgard is the one from the battle of ragnarok which came from jotunheim it gets sent back in time and appears in Midgard and the horn no one knows except the dev team
I'd bet money The Mask and what Odin saw is tied to the higher level Athena transcended to. I'm guessing that's the narrative glue that ties all the mythologies together. The color of the mask and rift corresponds to the color Athena is in GOW3 and 2018.
This makes a lot of sense.
Well you don't really need to use a device like that mask to go to Egypt from Midgard, do you ? People tend to think that all the settings of God of war games are in separate dimensions or whatever but the world of God of war is just our own during mythological times, a time period where the gods were real and active on Earth. The different "realms" you can find on Earth are probably more like spheres of influence of the different pantheons rather than different realities. Midgard is probably just Denmark, Suede and Norway in the world of GoW. Now that the Aesir gods are defeated, Skjöldr (Atreus' Midgardian friend) is going to become one of the very first Viking kings (a legendary king of that name exists if you're wondering) and Vikings are known for their travels to the mediterranean see...
That being said, I started to think mid-game that the mask had to be related to Athena and her ascension to another plan of existence she herself called a Truth back in God of War 3. Was kinda disappointed the connection wasn't made in the end but if they link all of that in a future game, one following an adult Loki/Atreus for instance, then all that mask storyline can still become an absolute masterclass.
They needed an excuse to make a game about Atreus unraveling the mystery of the mask!!!! You’ll have to wait 2 years to find out.
Why u sound mad?
I think they will still have Kratos in the lead in the next one.
@@Legion12Centurion
I think they’ll do a separate game with Atreus being the protagonist.
@@viperapexpredator9247
How? Just sharing my thoughts.
Seems like a plot device for planned DLC at the very least. I figured any next installment in this game series would probably have Atreus as the main protagonist with a cameo appearance by Kratos to help with whatever is happening.
No please I don't want to play Atreus in a next game full with him, with his boring weapons. I want Kratos with blade of chaos and leviathan.
They sadly said dont expect dlc for this game. Its more than likely that we might get some answers in the next one. I hope it takes us to Egypt.
They don’t do DLCs. We are getting an Atreus full game in the future.
@@TheMrGiannisgrfree Valhalla dlc happened lol
I think the mask was made in the future where atreus killed kratos. He couldn't outsmart odin, so he made a mask and sent it back in time to a period where odin was at his most foolish. Promising Odin the one thing he valued most to distract him. There is no mentions of the masks in any of the prophecies. It's because the prophecies written by agroboda was the original timeline
My theory is that the rift tear comes from the astral world. Notice the rift colour emitting look exactly like the the astral form of Athena after she died and became Astral. Odin’s purpose is to find out what happens after a god dies and for some reason the rift’s energy is making him understand that it holds answers to it.
This is exactly what I hope happens in future gow (or a title more representative of Atreus/Loki) games. Sindri is the most pressing concern imo, but the mask is quite weird as well
The mask will take kratos to different realms is my bet
We’re already too far past the release for it to be a main part of the storyline unless it’s part of a dlc, if anything it’s just an explanation to the creation and power of the gods, not just limited to the Norse pantheon, if they come out with a sequel they may tap into it a bit more but unless Santa Monica kept it around we’re probably not going to be given an answer
Ask Jim Carrey, he may have some ideas.
I expected atreus to turn into Jim Carey after putting on the mask
Atreus: *puts on the mask* | *turns into a tornado* SMOKING!
Kratos and Odin's thoughts: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
I think the next game could possibly be Kratos finding or hearing about atreus being in trouble or danger in another realm. Going and searching for atreus while interacting with the new pantheon. Just a thought.
Yes . others want atreus to be the main character for the next game... I say no because this is GOD OF WAR
There won't be another God of war game
God Of Mischief spin off like Spider-Man miles morales
The mask originated from the film "The Mask" directed by Chuck Russell starring Jim Carrey and Cameron Diaz
If they never circle back and explain them then my head cannon will be that it's a tear in the game itself that shows it's code and everything else that makes up the game itself, hence infinite knowledge. Plus it's green and computer code in the Matrix is also green. Case closed. Until it's not.
In Jim Carrey's "the mask", the mask turns the wearer into a shape-shifting avatar of loki...
I’m still unhappy that we never saw more of Athena. Why was she in GoW 2018? What’s her angle?
Kratos' past literally haunting him.Nothing more to it
@@SteliosE92 I disagree, Athena dies a selfless death which transfered her *soul/body * to a higher reality and when we saw her in gow 2018 she was a green colour very reminiscent of the mask and the rift ,
I believe this rift is some sort of gateway to this place and it’s this is god of war setting up its grand finale possibly a pantheon or two before we get to go to this place
@@declanjones4954 i dont care that you disagree. you are wrong .
@@SteliosE92 provide some explanation to your opinion. It's not a fact. You are not right.
@@SteliosE92 Athena is also the reason why kratos gets his weapon back so that means she can go to Midgard. There’s no way she was a hallucination also becuase she ascended to a higher plane of reality and doesn’t have a physical form anymore
Jim Carrey is the final boss
Odin looked into the rrift and went mad and lost an eye, when something whispered a forbidden truth to him.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted"
"Pee is stored in the balls"
Like a celestial being that knows everything that is older than time itself?
Didn't Mimir say he got Odin to trip on mushrooms and Odrin was tripping so hard he took one of his eyes out.
The mask reminds me of the movie “the mask”
SMOKIN
The mask in the movie The Mask is actually Loki's mask :)
Same thought here
alternative ending: Atreus puts on the mask and looks through the portal and sees a giant Ibis walking around in a library. The ibis turns around and reveals himself to be the Egyptian God THOTH! and ask Atreus what he would like to know.
"P- A- R- T- WHY? BECAUSE I GOTTA!"
EXACTLY
the writing on it looks like it means something but his hand is always in the way
I like to think that "the truth" or whatever the mask reveals is a metafiction of some sorts. Basically where they realize they're in a fiction, and the mask can gaze into our reality. I doubt this is the case whatsoever, although it's pretty cool to me.
why wasn't Atreus dream sequence where there are multiple Loki's running around him and then he explodes the mask from himself mentioned?
Isn't the whole mask thing a reference to the movie, The Mask, starring Jim Carrey. It looks like the mask in that movie and it was apparently created by Loki as well.
Well the title of this video was well chosen, all you told us about was the mystery behind the mask we already know about.
Behind the mask is Jim Carrey
My theroy is that it contains the true knowledge of all creations, something that ties all the pantheon together
I believe that mask and crack and rift are connected back to god of war 3 where Athena mentioned that she achieved a higher plain of existence which comes with knowledge,wisdom and truth which is what Odin craves and seeks he wanted to achieve what Athena had become without maybe sacrificing himself in vain and thought he could cheat death which didn’t work I believe this mask is connected to all mythology’s and once someone enters the rift one has achieved an existence of something beyond a god
I wouldn’t Mind a Loki game but can’t replace Kratos all together.
The more I think about it, a whole game in Egypt probably wouldn't work. It's one single place and all god's etc would all be right near each other. So they may actually go with having maps in Egypt, Japan, China, even stone henge in England or something of the sort..maybe the Mayans and Rome too. So how you travelled realm to realm, you actually travel country to country. To different maps all over the world. Have a story that weaves all of the pantheons together, over multiple games. Might be the best way forward.
I think the Giants were simply having fun with this one 😂 and ODIN was blindly following it. It is probably true.
He did get tricked with the Ragnarok prophecy so lol
I think that Mask is somehow related to Athena and her dimension of Powerful Gods
I think the reason why the Giants were only gifted with this is because Odin killed Ymir out of selfishness, Ymir, a primordial, was killed in vain. We see that the games “universe” or over all god (Like the One Above All in Marvel) granted Athena transcendence due to her death being in vain and her dying with a sense of selflessness and came back in similar colors to that of the Rift. Maybe this universes One Above All has rules in place for certain tiers of beings. Primordials can’t die as Odin describes Ymir as a cataclysm, a hurricane, a mountain. Gaia from GOW3 is in a sense not dead and neither is Cronos, 2 beings that are just embodiments of what they really are. Earth and Time. Ymir could be all of creation. Regular gods however are regulators of the lower aspects of creation like water, the sky, the sun. When Helios got captured it didn’t make the literal sun disappear or die, there was no one to guide the suns power/light to their land. Each Pantheon governs a section of the planet and I assume Santa Monica will pick & choose what primordials are “universal” and which ones aren’t since some Pantheons have primordials that are the same as others.
Theory: the rift leads to ancient mythological greece pre series. Note that time travel and history repeating is part of norse mythology as well as in game, recalling jormungandrs predictament. Next game bet leads atreus to find the mask and travel to there and now loki finds himself fitting into greek mythology(like his father) as dionysus which explains his absence in the series.
My theory: Mask hides the powers of Jim Carrey
SMOKIN..... SOMEBODY STOP ME.....P.A.R.T Y BECAUSE I GOTTA
Am I the only one who thinks of the movie the mask with Jim Carrey not saying it’s related or anything but it just gives me that feel
Edit : woops realized he definitely says it in the vid 😂
I'm sure if Atreus put on the mask and go through the rift, he would ended up in Santa Monica's studio room meeting, and there they can bargain ideas. 4th wall breaker.
Or another 4th wall breaker, Atreus would meet the Loki in the Kang's throne room in the MCU as fellow variant of Loki.
Pick either of them. It's all good solutions.
Plot twist: the rift leads to god and Odin lost his eye because no mortal can gaze upon god
Odin is a god
since time travel has already been established in GOW (with Jormungandr), I wonder if a future version of Atreus/Loki found the mask and rift and used it to bring Kratos from the Greek mythological universe to the Nordic....
THE MASK 2! The movie with Jamie Kennedy. Odin sends Loki to find the mask.
Can anyone rip the mask model to read the writings on it? It has greek, japanese and egyptian
What if Sony tied the rift to the PS camera and looking into it showed you playing the game? That would be some next level Psycho Mantis shit.
Lokis mask from THE MASK SSSSSSMMMMMOKEN
Bro i wish it let u see the "ifinite knowledge"
Maybe the mask is Loki's from another timeline. One where he became the evil version of Loki. He wanted to exist in other alternate timelines, but the human body can't withstand it. So instead, he transfered his consciousness into the mask so it could be sent through the rift and transported to alternate timelines. Instead of sending a body that would die, the mask was sent through, and broke into 3 pieces.
Like Brok and Sindri said, the soul has 4 aspects. Form, Mind, Direction, and Luck. Loki put his soul into the mask with Mind, Direction, and Luck. But without his body, he lacked Form. That's why he needed Atreus to wear the mask, so the other 3 aspects of his soul could be completed with a form, allowing him to experience alternate timelines without dying, and getting to retain all the knowledge.
I don't care if there is little or even no Kratos in the next game.
I just loves how Santa Monica Studio wrote a beautiful story based on Myth.
Me too my only problem is I don’t wanna run around as Atreus smashing up peopel with a bow for a full game so hopefully he’ll have some new weapons and magic to use if he’s the focus of the next game
@@jaketurton1036 yeah. And I'm sure if there is the next God of War, they will use young-adult Atreus. Whose really for a real combat.
@@jaketurton1036 maybe he’ll reclaim a certain magical sword that was lost in the end game event.
Look like a mask similar to Chinese culture but without the painting. And it's glowing green, seems like it belong to Jade Emperor. Chinese god mythology next?
Thing is there is Greek Egyptian and Asian letterings all on the mask so it literally could be anything
It would be SOOOO AWESOME if they would base their next series on central and south american maya/aztec/... mythology. And a game that looks a lot like like the movie "apocalypto" :)
I know you Mexican af lol
@@Niuka112 I'm from europe...
Apocalypto is insanely unacurate to real Mayan culture
@@BlackPantherFTW I know, it's not very accurate, Have you seen the History Buffs episode about all the errors in the film ? Very interesting... especially the end where the Spanish ship arrives with the Christian missionaries etc... (hundreds of years off-date). But, it's one of the few films that try to depict one of these cultures. Also, Norse mythology is pretty well documented, but much of the pre-columbian central and south American mythologies are poorly documented and maybe not as much is known about them to be able to make a game with a complex lore like God of war 4 and 5... Then again they also had a rather large god pantheon with many gods of different "domains" of nature, somewhat like Norse mythology. They also had different realms (at least 3 that I know of).
Still, I'd love to see a video game about these cultures that rarely make it into any modern form of media, and a game like God of War about it, well researched from scientific sources would be totally unique and amazing to play, at least to me...
@@HPPalmtopTube nah thanks.
I'd rather get Kratos into some well established pantheon that's well known.
Hopefully the japanese one instead of the Egyptian one.
But we all know that Sony went full woke so they will 1000% make it Egypt and have only Kratos and maybe Atreus as the only white people and they will be really weak.
And I'm gonna guess that they won't depict those Egyptian gods as villains.
And I thought Atreus would turn into a green-faced wacko Jim Carry who's powers can almost bend reality.
The secret? It makes him go SMOOOOKIIIINNN
Souls of the Giants were caught with orbs which Angrboda was keeping.There is no any giant left.Atreus is only giant alive.
Same like it happened to Kratos in Greek.
After death of last spartan he became only 1 who could stop Zeus.
In similar way Atreus was only 1 who could stop Odin.
it went to Stanley Ipkis 😉
What if....the giants are the God's of Egypt?
Doubtful. With the giants being known as fomorians/fomori in celtic mythology and with all the references to that mythology in both games (mimir, the lady, and the kelpie all being from there themselves) it's incredibly likely that this is the next mythology the games will explore in Atreus' search for his people. Everyone just seems more biased toward the pop culture answer of Egypt being the next setting
@@icarusrising2787 Possibly. It would be a fun idea if some of the giants that escaped would flee to Egypt. Some being there for a long time would influence the people. And if they are like Angraboda with her "hieroglyphics" and souls being transported to animals, I can imagine one being sent to a dog or bird to grow into Anubis or Ra. And what if they get ill like the grandmother. Too far fetched maybe, but it would make a fun story.
@@silverpslm I don't disagree with that at all tbh. With Ymir being alive before creation, it's entirely plausible that some of the giants made their way to Egypt and became the pantheon there as they're also described as having the ability to turn into animals
I think Odin was currupted because of the mask . Mask basically was to control the dark magic
The mask is clearly a peek to the higher real of existence
Just look how thor died
Just like athena ( disintegrated) different color but you get it
Next game is in Egypt for sure
At some point they’ll have to travel to ancient Mexico aswell. Look at the story of tyr he also traveled there aswell, Mexico and Asia
Thats what I thought to, the higher existence
The mask was green, Athena specter was green, seems pretty obvious that those things are tied together somehow
The fact it took me until Loki snapped the mask at the end of the game this thought clicked for me out loud.
“JIM CARRY’S THE MASK?!?!”
Because they did say that mask came from Loki in that movie. The similarities in design was too good to see as well.
There is no mystery behind the mask. It’s quite well know what Loki’s mask does. You put it on, spin around, turn green and say “Sssomebody ssstop mee”.
Odin shares similar traits to Father from FMA and Voldermort from the Harry Potter universe. Fear of death and the unknown drives him to seek knowledge and power by any means. Abandoning his morals, willing to sacrifice, deceive and destroy anything just to stay away from death.
They all end up suffering a fate worse than death as well. Father (or the dwarf in the flask) is banished into the abyss, Voldermort's soul is trapped in purgatory forever, and Odin is cast into oblivion after having his soul extracted from his body and destroyed by Sindri.
It's a steep price to pay for attempting to play God.
Why are you guys obssesed with Athena? Even if She's still "alive". Her part is absolutely done. I'd say Kratos' own remorses materialize as her. Call it what You want. Maybe it's her. Maybe is just a nightmare/hallucination. She appeared as past of Kratos which will always be apart of him, but he chooses to be better.