@@Shanepex hmmm ok, I'll give you that. To be fair he was going to but Okoye showed him that some Korean civilians were recording. I'm not sure what international law would have said about that... but maybe that's why.
In order for the scene to work they had to because if they left it in people would say that he's just there in the room with alot of hate and resentment for tchalla who would go against him
Look for some of those pirated ones they have a version before the release date. And one with a extension of 5-8 minutes more with this scene in it. I think it's also a voice over of the director too... Im not sure most are online tho may be wrong
Some of us already knew he was pissed off that T'challa didn't kill Claw immediately or bring him back to Wakanda, to facd Wakandan Laws. He wanted revenge just like T'challa wanted revenge on Bucky Barnes, when he believed that he murdered his father in Captain America Civil War movie. It wasn't a secret you just had to pay attention while watching the movie.
If the CIA wasn’t present when T’Challa got Claw, he would’ve bring him to Wakanda but since they were there, he had to respect some laws. Just like with Bucky, he was ready to end him in that tunnel, but was stopped by German police. As his bestfriend Wakabi should’ve understand that but no he was to weak for that.
I never said that i agreed with Wakabi, i said some of us who watch the movie know why Wakabi betrayed T'challa, even without the Power Point Presentation. In Captain Civil War The Black Panther didn't stop trying to kill Bucky Barnes till he found that Bucky was innocent and it was actually Zemo who killed T'challa pops. Then he forgave Zemo because he didn't want to end up miserable like Zemo.
It’s not the same thing. T’Challa was literally sworn in as King back then. He was just a prince, though next in line but still not officially. And most importantly when T’Challa went after Barnes, he didn’t put any wakandan life in danger, he didn’t betray anyone’s trust. Hell had you polled the entire population and asked if they’d wanted revenge for their king they would’ve said yes probably. All that is very different than infiltrating a serial murderer who clearly and open admitted having no interest in the good of wakanda, it’s very different than betraying your king as a member of the fcking BORDER TRIBE, like they meant to be that last ones to betray the throne. Not only did he betray the king, he betrayed his own wife and would’ve captured and possibly killed her had they won. T’Challa did none of this and when he got an opportunity to kill the real killer, he didn’t and spared him. So no, T’Challa would not understand him just because they both wanted revenge. He would actually have a hard time coming to terms with putting the entire nation at risk for his own selfish reasons
He wanted revenge and put the whole nation at risk for it. Went to war against his own people and took many lives. He betrayed the throne he was supposed to be loyal to and betrayed his wife also. Had he won that battle and captured his wife he would’ve killed her because killmonger would want it too. He definitely is bad. When T’Challa went after Barnes thinking he was the one who killed his father, he didn’t bring Barnes to wakanda and made him king, he went out there and fought Barnes over there, no wakandan lives were lost and there were still plenty of Heart-Shaped herb to go around for many generations of kings to come. That’s what you do when you want revenge but you still are able to be mature enough to think about who your actions might affect. Had killmonger given him back his parents in exchange for the betrayal, that I can understand at least. But for a dead body? Why not just be satisfied the guy you wanted dead is dead and tell killmonger to fck off
Unfortunately every leader has it's shortcomings. No wonder in Black Panther 2, Killmonger told Shuri when she entered the ancestral plain that "TChalla was too noble, he didn't have the cajones"
Not every person has suffered the way he did so it's not so easy to understand his pain. He wanted revenge and we can understand that but in the end we also know that revenge doesn't solve anything.
It's not about solving anything. It's making sure that person can't hurt anyone else the same way. Resolution solves conflict, Vengeance is an effect of someone's actions.
as a king or any kind of leader, you have to weigh these things out. And W'kobi did not understand that. but if he'd did klaw right there it would have been no movie... maybe the argument of how the Wakandans think they are above the law
@@justinpigg1694 uh, yes. Wtf is the world gonna do about it??? Wakanda was and arguably still is the worlds most powerful technologically advanced nation. Besides, he was dealing with someone who had committed terroristic acts onto HIS people. What the rest of the world feels about it is irrelevant. That’s like assuming the rest of the world should have a problem if a country puts a foreign terrorist to death. You commit crimes on foreign soil you are subject to whatever punishment that nation gives you. So yes? He should have killed Klaw, he would’ve been justified to do so, and the world wouldn’t have been able to do a damn thing about it. Edit: he SHOULD have taken Klaw straight to Wakanda to be executed.
They didn’t want you to feel for his character like that !!! if his scene was in the movie it would have change the dynamics of his storyline !!! Powerful scene “Like a Real King” felt !!!
This would’ve made so much more sense to actually be in the movie. I always thought it was odd that he just..switches sides just for the fun of it in the first movie.
The way Okoye blinks in the face of his rage… you can tell a good actor when they help their fellow actor draw out a realistic reaction (of course they’re both awesome, but still…)
Powerful Emotional Moving Heartfelt Heartbreaking And Truly Truthful And Harden With Expression Of Painful Suffering And Family Loss Which Truly Memorable And Unforgettable Moment In Cinema And Quite Informative Indeed Totally To The Betrayal Of T'Challa By W'Kabi 💯 This Was Probably A Great Award Winning Scene 👋😊👋😇🤔👍💯❤️🏆🔥
A 30-year grudge can poison the soul and corrupt the moral judgement of even the most honorable warrior. That's always the problem living in an isolationist society, you fail to recognize the enemies from within your own borders some of which you have a hand in creating. Both the Wakandan and Inhuman societies suffered the consequences of their isolationist mentality, a mixture of life-threatening and even world ending consequences.
The betrayal is definitely understandable - they should've left that in. T'Challa might've been an awesome human being but even then, they still have flaws - still make mistakes.
They had to take that shit out. Dude was 1000% on point. It tipped the balance of the narrative too much in favor of a different one. Acting was great. He was a border tribesman of royal blood. Maybe he shoulda got the nod?
If this explained anything to you that you did not already understand from watching the movie, you probably have trouble believing that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west but still exists at night.
No, he's just hungry for revenge. As long as Klaue is dead it really shouldn't matter where he meets his end. W'kabi wants to basically do it himself though, and that really isn't any real reason to bring him back over what T'Challa did. It also doesn't make him less of a leader in any way. Imagine throwing your friend, king, and country under a bus because you can't see past your own vengeance.
@@Gration_ Wrong! First of all klaw committed crimea against Wakanda and should be extradited to Wakanda to stand trial for those crimes under Wakandan law Secondly t'challa shouldnt even be king Killmonger defeated him legally in fair combat and third why is the black panther working for the C.I.A. when hes supposedly the king of a sovereign nation?
I got that even without that scene. People don't need everything blantly told to understand the motives of characters. W'kabi mentioned Klau enough in the movie. I thought the reason for his betrayal was quite obvious.
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Damn this actually gives so much context. I always wondered why he switched up on T’Challa like that
Yeah plus tbf there are times where you have to stop being so noble which tchalla really was.
The context was already there. This deleted scene isn't the first time W'Kabi bings up why Klaue's capture is important to him
@@Shanepex how was T'Challa "too noble" here? It was N'Jadaka who stole Klaue from out of their grip and freed him from temporary holding.
@Thembani the One because tchall had a opportunity to end klau where he stood. But didn't
@@Shanepex hmmm ok, I'll give you that. To be fair he was going to but Okoye showed him that some Korean civilians were recording. I'm not sure what international law would have said about that... but maybe that's why.
They should not have DELETED that scene. ITS EPIC.
Powerful
They want him to appear more of a judas I guess
In order for the scene to work they had to because if they left it in people would say that he's just there in the room with alot of hate and resentment for tchalla who would go against him
Magnificent Acting ❤️
When his voice broke when he said ‘bring him back’, I felt that.
That was more of the actor putting emotion in the scene it didn’t really sound like his voice broke
@@yaboysjdior Beautiful Work 💯❤️
Magnificent Acting ❤️
Magnificent Acting ❤️
It was obvious, but this scene actually makes W'Kabi a better character, and it also shows how torn Okoye was.
Exactly 💯
This scene would of help to show why okoye was so sad being disbard from the wakanda guard.
Finally intelligent words agreed Sir 🤔😇
Beautiful Acting ❤️
His fucking accent is flawless! Why does marvel delete all amazing scenes!!!!
Same thought
Beautiful Magnificent Acting ❤️💯
Magnificent Acting ❤️
He's fucking badass!🔥🔥🔥
@@Katteyezz Outstanding Performance Strong Powerful And Emotional Heart-felt And Moving 👋😊👋😇👋😀💯❤️🏆🏆 Award Winning Scene 💯
I felt his anger. That was a great scene.
Me too and this should have been apart of the movie
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the context was always there. weird, i guess they didn't make it clear enough. but he does state all of these details in the movie.
Yes, this is not deleted scene, i saw this in the movie.
@@crocop4life where and when did you see this? Wasn't in the movie when I saw it
@@crocop4life Lies.
Look for some of those pirated ones they have a version before the release date. And one with a extension of 5-8 minutes more with this scene in it. I think it's also a voice over of the director too...
Im not sure most are online tho may be wrong
Some of us already knew he was pissed off that T'challa didn't kill Claw immediately or bring him back to Wakanda, to facd Wakandan Laws. He wanted revenge just like T'challa wanted revenge on Bucky Barnes, when he believed that he murdered his father in Captain America Civil War movie. It wasn't a secret you just had to pay attention while watching the movie.
If the CIA wasn’t present when T’Challa got Claw, he would’ve bring him to Wakanda but since they were there, he had to respect some laws. Just like with Bucky, he was ready to end him in that tunnel, but was stopped by German police. As his bestfriend Wakabi should’ve understand that but no he was to weak for that.
I never said that i agreed with Wakabi, i said some of us who watch the movie know why Wakabi betrayed T'challa, even without the Power Point Presentation. In Captain Civil War The Black Panther didn't stop trying to kill Bucky Barnes till he found that Bucky was innocent and it was actually Zemo who killed T'challa pops. Then he forgave Zemo because he didn't want to end up miserable like Zemo.
Exactly 💯
i was pissed off
It’s not the same thing. T’Challa was literally sworn in as King back then. He was just a prince, though next in line but still not officially. And most importantly when T’Challa went after Barnes, he didn’t put any wakandan life in danger, he didn’t betray anyone’s trust. Hell had you polled the entire population and asked if they’d wanted revenge for their king they would’ve said yes probably. All that is very different than infiltrating a serial murderer who clearly and open admitted having no interest in the good of wakanda, it’s very different than betraying your king as a member of the fcking BORDER TRIBE, like they meant to be that last ones to betray the throne. Not only did he betray the king, he betrayed his own wife and would’ve captured and possibly killed her had they won. T’Challa did none of this and when he got an opportunity to kill the real killer, he didn’t and spared him. So no, T’Challa would not understand him just because they both wanted revenge. He would actually have a hard time coming to terms with putting the entire nation at risk for his own selfish reasons
See this is why they need to bring back DVDs or start releasing uncut versions because a lot of plot holes are created when the context is removed.
But literally everything he said was already revealed in the movie even without the scene...
Agreed 200%
@@joline3332 this gives more feel, emotions, connect... Which deepens his character .
Beautifully performed.
Beautiful Performance ❤️
He snapped ‼️ maybe his best acted scene
Yes Indeed 💯❤️
These deleted scenes should not have been deleted. Add them back... rerelease!
Wow! This scene makes a huge difference. And gives Rhino dude a chance to show off his acting chops.
Damn he's not a bad guy he is a pissed off guy who wanted justice!!!!!
He wanted revenge and put the whole nation at risk for it. Went to war against his own people and took many lives. He betrayed the throne he was supposed to be loyal to and betrayed his wife also. Had he won that battle and captured his wife he would’ve killed her because killmonger would want it too. He definitely is bad. When T’Challa went after Barnes thinking he was the one who killed his father, he didn’t bring Barnes to wakanda and made him king, he went out there and fought Barnes over there, no wakandan lives were lost and there were still plenty of Heart-Shaped herb to go around for many generations of kings to come. That’s what you do when you want revenge but you still are able to be mature enough to think about who your actions might affect. Had killmonger given him back his parents in exchange for the betrayal, that I can understand at least. But for a dead body? Why not just be satisfied the guy you wanted dead is dead and tell killmonger to fck off
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@@fantasma8253 Great Comment ❤️
The fact that he said mother and father instead of parents shows how good the writers are.
Sorry, I don’t quite see the difference. Care to explain? I wish to understand better.
@@syfqzk7249 birthing person and sperm donor lol jk
Unfortunately every leader has it's shortcomings. No wonder in Black Panther 2, Killmonger told Shuri when she entered the ancestral plain that "TChalla was too noble, he didn't have the cajones"
Lord have mercy that makes so much sense now.
Not every person has suffered the way he did so it's not so easy to understand his pain. He wanted revenge and we can understand that but in the end we also know that revenge doesn't solve anything.
Um, yes it does....
Idk why it didn’t lmao. Klaw ended up dead anyway.
@@brainnuggets8601..was going to say the same damn thing
It's not about solving anything. It's making sure that person can't hurt anyone else the same way.
Resolution solves conflict, Vengeance is an effect of someone's actions.
Shoulda never deleted this scene
Absolutely Definitely Agree 💯❤️
Why do the editors cut essential parts out of movies? This makes no sense why this ended up on the cutting room floor.
agenda. taking out this made look to me like simp
Yep, that's an understandable betrayal reason.
That scene would have moved the movie another notch into winning an Oscar for best picture.
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Now I understand.. they should not have deleted this scene… this was too important.
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as a king or any kind of leader, you have to weigh these things out. And W'kobi did not understand that. but if he'd did klaw right there it would have been no movie... maybe the argument of how the Wakandans think they are above the law
Well who wakandans answer too. T'achalla only answer to no one
@Jacob Harris he cares what the world thinks when okoye said "the world is watching" he stayed his hand
Kings shouldn’t make promises they can’t keep
@Honin Akecheta so he should have murdered Klaw in front of the world?
@@justinpigg1694 uh, yes. Wtf is the world gonna do about it??? Wakanda was and arguably still is the worlds most powerful technologically advanced nation. Besides, he was dealing with someone who had committed terroristic acts onto HIS people. What the rest of the world feels about it is irrelevant. That’s like assuming the rest of the world should have a problem if a country puts a foreign terrorist to death. You commit crimes on foreign soil you are subject to whatever punishment that nation gives you. So yes? He should have killed Klaw, he would’ve been justified to do so, and the world wouldn’t have been able to do a damn thing about it.
Edit: he SHOULD have taken Klaw straight to Wakanda to be executed.
They didn’t want you to feel for his character like that !!! if his scene was in the movie it would have change the dynamics of his storyline !!! Powerful scene “Like a Real King” felt !!!
They should have kept this scene. It’s powerful and gives context to the character’s motivations
Absolutely 💯❤️
this should have been in the movie. we need a director's cut
Absolutely Definitely 💯❤️
Wow they should have never deleted this scene . Wow Daniel is a good actor those lines were read flawlessly.
Beautiful Comment ❤️
We didn't need that scene but we missed out on Kaluuya acting.
Watch nope
I did, It's a good movie. 😊
Daaayum! We needed this!
Yes Indeed 💯❤️
He outshines the rest of the cast they can't have that
Now we understand why he betrayed T’challa!
This would change the movie so much. Meaning T'challa was not perfect as marvel made him
This would’ve made so much more sense to actually be in the movie. I always thought it was odd that he just..switches sides just for the fun of it in the first movie.
FACTS
Man, why’d they leave this out? This totally could’ve worked in the movie
They shouldn't delete this scene. Now it makes sense why he was so hurt and heartbroken 💔 😢 😔 🤔. HE felt his best friend betrayed 😢 💔 him.
This is very much important scene
Yeah, that definitely would've added more to the story
Absolutely 💯❤️
The man has a point. Help outsiders before you help your own people? Doesnt make for good leadership
I can't see why this scene wasn't included, it added so much and lasted just 30 seconds.
I felt that myself. His wife should have understood, because he made him a promise.
The way Okoye blinks in the face of his rage… you can tell a good actor when they help their fellow actor draw out a realistic reaction (of course they’re both awesome, but still…)
See this is the kind of seems that marvel needs to keep in the movie, so it helps the audience understand more
😢 only now I understand it hurt him I literally felt the pain in his voice
Absolutely 💯❤️
I thought this was clear from what we got in the movie but yeah. Having the character outright explain his actions is good
Yes Indeed 💯❤️
W'Kabi's betrayal was inexcusable and just selfish he was a a chump for Kilmonger.
this made so much more sense
Like a Real King 😟
Damn that’s powerful. Wish it made it to the final cut
So much a raw emotion and passion.
Why on earth did they delete this?
I felt this
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Well we didn't need that scene, but it was obvious bc In the scene when wkabi comes after they lose Klaus you can see his emotions
Definitely 💯 ❤️ Powerful Scene 💯❤️
"T'challa failed because this new guy literally came and stole him...wait..."
|W'Kabi is such a clown
So much pain in his voice
And than he accepts the person who is Klaws partner.
Maybe because Killmonger replaced T'Challa from the throne that's why
Kill Monger's Whole Plan To Divide And Conquer For The Throne Causing Separation Between Friends By Betrayal 💖💯🤔👍🔥
Oh I wish they kept this
They should have kept this scene in
Powerful Emotional Moving Heartfelt Heartbreaking And Truly Truthful And Harden With Expression Of Painful Suffering And Family Loss Which Truly Memorable And Unforgettable Moment In Cinema And Quite Informative Indeed Totally To The Betrayal Of T'Challa By
W'Kabi 💯 This Was Probably A Great Award Winning Scene 👋😊👋😇🤔👍💯❤️🏆🔥
Oh man, this movie is amazing and this scene was needed
He has every right to feel that way!
Some scenes shouldn't be deleted
i feel his pain 30 years is a long time
Sbould have stayed for emotional impact
Definitely one of the best deleted scenes by far
Powerful scene..
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They should've kept this scene😢
Absolutely 💯❤️
Acting is superb👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
A 30-year grudge can poison the soul and corrupt the moral judgement of even the most honorable warrior. That's always the problem living in an isolationist society, you fail to recognize the enemies from within your own borders some of which you have a hand in creating. Both the Wakandan and Inhuman societies suffered the consequences of their isolationist mentality, a mixture of life-threatening and even world ending consequences.
Great Comment Excellent Narrative ❤️ Powerful Scene 💯❤️
He has a good point
I wish they would've kept this in the movie
True 🤔👍💖
I’d like to see W’Kabi again; maybe a reunion with Okoye.
It hurts when they cut important moments like this
Yep
Absolutely 💯❤️
The betrayal is definitely understandable - they should've left that in.
T'Challa might've been an awesome human being but even then, they still have flaws - still make mistakes.
This is really gangsta, and yet I still feel like he was really right about what he said.
Damn. That’s should have stayed in. Gives so much more to his character.
This should have been in the movie..tho Marvel be leaving their best on the cutting room floor
Good Comment In Point 💯🤔👍❤️
This is why I have no problem with Wakabi! Never have.
T’Challa lost the challenge and only loved after taking the heart shaped herd. Killmonger was the true king of Wakanda under their law
Bro the CIA will do things to him that this guy cannot even imagine.
Award Winning Work 💯🏆❤️
Definitely felt his anger
Absolutely 💯❤️
They had to take that shit out. Dude was 1000% on point. It tipped the balance of the narrative too much in favor of a different one. Acting was great. He was a border tribesman of royal blood. Maybe he shoulda got the nod?
Yes Indeed Absolutely 💯❤️
Hell of a sene
They should have kept this in the movie😢
Absolutely Definitely 💯❤️
This would have made his betrayal make so much more sense. This is so dumb how they edited this out.
This was a powerful scene here.
These 30-45 seconds would've added so much context to the film.
If this explained anything to you that you did not already understand from watching the movie, you probably have trouble believing that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west but still exists at night.
Beautiful, beautiful
Techalla, bruh, cross crossed his parents out… not cool man.
Man, I totally get it now!
EMOTIONAL
That scene was hard
Man's got a point
No, he's just hungry for revenge. As long as Klaue is dead it really shouldn't matter where he meets his end. W'kabi wants to basically do it himself though, and that really isn't any real reason to bring him back over what T'Challa did. It also doesn't make him less of a leader in any way. Imagine throwing your friend, king, and country under a bus because you can't see past your own vengeance.
@@Gration_ Wrong! First of all klaw committed crimea against Wakanda and should be extradited to Wakanda to stand trial for those crimes under Wakandan law Secondly t'challa shouldnt even be king Killmonger defeated him legally in fair combat and third why is the black panther working for the C.I.A. when hes supposedly the king of a sovereign nation?
Powerful Scene 💯❤️
This brings so much weight to the movie
I got that even without that scene. People don't need everything blantly told to understand the motives of characters. W'kabi mentioned Klau enough in the movie. I thought the reason for his betrayal was quite obvious.
I agree firmly, but the quality of the performance was so exceptional it would’ve been nice to see in the film.
Yeah but this was a more powerful scene they could of left it.
Didnt need it but that was a good scene.
Now everything makes sense.
this was in the theater version
It’s was obvious but this gave a bit more power
"Wakabee" 😄😄😄