@@BIGxBOSSxx1 You'd think the people running the show would let them in on that. "Oh, btw usually in games this is like this for x reasons to make it more enjoyable and fun for the player/easier for the player."
Yea, but the stats let alone someone owning those guns is stupid. The volcanic pistol predates alot of the guns in the game but wasnt popular due to it being underpowered, the cattleman is underpowered in the game also. It should be the most powerful handgun of the game with the scholfeild after it, the navy revolver and lemat shoudlnt be as powerful as there are because they took smaller calibers but also took less powder same as the Schofield. The double action should be one of the weakest, so should the pistols
A bit of a shame that The Schofield wasn't covered. Not only is it my favourite of the RDR2 revolvers, it also keeps it's real name for a pretty dark reason. The reason that there's no licensing problem, is because the Schofield who invented it, shot himself with the gun that shared his name.
I know this is a 2 year old comment and I'll look it up myself as well, but why would that allow the name to be used without licensing? Did he die before he could patent it? Or some other reason? I'll update this comment with what I find :) Update: I couldn't find much info, but to reiterate and expand on OPs comment a bit, the Schofield Revolver was named after Major George Schofield who modified the Smith and Wesson Model 3 to be easier to reload while on horseback, cutting reload time in half (around 30 seconds to fully reload the Schofield variant). It became popular enough amongst the cavalry that Smith and Wesson patented the modified design, naming it after the Major. Compared to the Colt 45 it had a bit less power and recoil that made it easier to shoot accurately, but still kept it's stopping power. Eventually it was standardized to accept .45 Schofield and .45 Colt rounds interchangeably. Major Scholfield did indeed commit suicide with a Schofield in his full military gear in 1882, 3 years after his wife died and 9 years after the Schofield Revolver was patented. I couldn't find anything about why R* can use some names like the Schofield, Volcanic, and (I believe) the Rolling Block Rifle, but if I had to guess I'd think it comes down to either: the real names they use are public domain or they only paid for the licensing for those specific guns for whatever reason. "Gun lore" is kinda interesting sometimes I suppose
The reload speed is a major issue with online. You may not know this but rockstar sped up reload speed and changed third person movement to make the game more arcadey. Doing that in context of a game that focused so much on realism in small details, this sucked and contributed to a lot of players quitting the game. It’s not the only reason by any means. But it contributed.
@@Kira-ik8ld it was fine in single player. Those designers are real artists. They perfectly balanced gameplay necessities with believability. When RDO first came out, it was very different from how the online team butchered it.
I wrote a book on claiming writing the book on something having no value. Because in the last ten years there are now more books published per year than there are humans, and they have lost all value.
One of the early Volcanic Pistols was so incredibly weak, that someone purchased one in order to "end themselves". The day after they shot themselves in the head, they returned the pistol to the store. There are "weak" pistol calibres, and then there is the Volcanic Pistol. Its in its own class.
Yeah, there’s only so much powder you can fit inside of a hollowed out bullet. It was not a good gun, definitely- but it’s still very cool. I mean look at it, it uses caseless ammunition and is called the “volcanic.”
@@fromthebackseat4865 rdr2 showcases what it easily could've been though, same with the LeMat if they were both paper cartridge firing en masse and if the Volcanic upped it's velocity. The volcanic is honestly revolutionary in design for it's time, it's just the power and ammo type make it little more than a souped up airsoft pistol irl.
Well, more like _"Someone told that story in print in an age of particularly florid journalism and no one can actually confirm it ever happened,"_ but yeah
Gotta give props to whoever wrote the articles for the volcanic in the gunsmith book. The explanation of rocket ball to Brass bullets seems logical to me tbh.
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z SQUAD I’m pretty shure of it it’s the only game that I know of the shows weapons in detail with there real military designated names like the m110 sass
@@dunbass7149 no? John was meh. I never got attached like I did with Arthur. I didn’t think he was as badass and cool ect. I was fucking depressed when Arthur died lmao.
I like how this guy doesn't complain about everything, he explains why they're realistic or not realistic and even gives some reasons why rockstar couldn't do certain things (such as with the sawed offs cocking mechanism)
I sincerely hope you've seen a rise in donations towards the museum. Sadly, I can't afford to help out myself, but really feel like this show deserves some support.
@@jonathanferguson1211 Could it be the link/site in the description is broken (or even hacked)? It takes me to a weird menu, when I click donations, it seems to load something for a second and then reloads the same menu. If I click on "trusts and foundations" clearly loads a scam site
"The Volcanic seems to perform like a handcannon in-game" Isn't that odd? Since I thought the downfall of the Volcanic was overall weak and expensive ammo. So in reality it was a massive underperformer if anything. Maybe I'm wrong about that though.
It mentions in game if you read newspapers or catalogs that the manufacturer in the story modernizes the design to use the same ammunition as other pistols or something like that. That's also why it's shown to use brass casings and takes 'repeater ammo'.
@@Themaxwithnoname It wasn’t the inventor that tried to do that in the story, it was just some guy who bought the gun to do specifically that with it. It’s also worth noting that he’s said to have got the .31 caliber version, which was the weaker of the two calibers you could get it in. And critically, that was an anecdotal story; it’d be incredibly difficult to confirm if that actually happened and if it’s actually true. It may be a true story, or it may have been an exaggeration, or possibly even have been a true story that was just a fluke because he got a bad batch of ammo or something. Was the Volcanic underpowered? Hell yes. Was it so underpowered that you couldn’t even shoot yourself with it? Maybe.
The double action revolver in rdr actually does have a precision penalty when using it in double action (you can see it better in third person or without aiming down the sights in first person) but actually you can shoot it single action if you press the aim button before every shot, and have better precision
wish they made to where you could squeeze the trigger to shoot in single action to simulate an accurate single action shot and tap to shoot double action. Then again it's rockstar if *they* didn't think of it they won't add it because of their ego. Just like they never thought to release a game that isn't unfinished or at the very least add patches to story mode to fix the recent bugs they created with the online update... mooks.
The thing about dual wielding it is yes its less accurate, but if you use Gunslingers Choice (tier 3 is most effective) it makes it the best weapon in the game fr.
So refreshing to hear one of these experts actually understand it’s a game and so realism sometimes has to be bent to keep gameplay fluid. Love this guy and “ok pause…” is definitely my new catchphrase in life.
Kind of surprised not as many people talk about it. Then again, it wasn't one of Rockstar's greatest. Red Dead Redemption was definitely a big step up in terms of gameplay and graphics, but without Revolver, there is no Redemption.
Mad respect to the guy recording all this. They had to play sort of far into the game to be able to unlock all the guns and then drop their honor all the way down for the footage.
“He’s cocking it with one hand, and I think that’s impossible” Hickok45: also it took me five months to realize he was talking about a volcanic revolver
I was also pretty upset that the Carcano wasn't talked about. It's also REALLY criminal John didn't talk about the LeMat, aka the Revolver with a shotgun built into it. Who knows, maybe a part 2? I mean if TF2 got a part to, RDR2 should defiantly get one too! Maybe the Carcano and the LeMat will be in that one, you never know!
Why they provided him footage of the character shooting HUMANS with the varmint rifle is beyond me. I wish instead they had mentioned to him the fact that the Varmint Rifle is included in the game precisely because this isn't just a bandit simulator but also a pretty damn good hunting simulator and you need that gun to get perfect pelts on Rabbits, Badgers, Skunks, and other "varmints".
@@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски i accidentally shot myself in the thigh with a .22 once it felt like a wasp sting,it did hurt a lot more when i had to dig the bullet out though.
it surprised me a lot that coyotes and foxes needed a repeater,in real life its encouraged that you hunt them with .22 Winchester even makes special .22 rounds for them.
As for weapons Rockstar has cheated a bit with... I'd say the LeMat is one of the worst contenders haha. It's amazing to look at in real life, but it's frustrating as hell to reload.
@@LongTimeAgoNL LeMat is a pretty good gun in rdr2 suckw they don't put these additional weapons to the campaign like how all weapons from the campaign in rdr1 were put into rdr2. Rdr2 the LeMat Is nice to use cuz of its toggle fire with two shotgun shots. Unreal but still they were trying it out so its not just another pistol also in rdr1 they really had the guns correctly where they were supposed to be rdr2 bruh they downgraded alot of weapons..... Masuer semi automatic pistol was one of the best pistols in rdr1 aside from HP/high power pistol. The best lever action was Evans repeater in rdr1 cuz of it not having the stupid stats from rdr2. Rdr1 weapons got degraded so bad thanks rdr2. I like the game but still theres alot of issues with them firearms in the game.
As I own a single action revolver, I think what's happening in the beginning with Arthur "thumbing the hammer" is simply that he's holding the trigger down (As you would when you fan the hammer) and simply releasing the hammer from under his thumb when he's ready to fire. Still strange, but it is faster than cocking then pulling the trigger.
He has written more than one book :) He also kickstarted a book called Thorneycroft to SA80: British Bullpup Firearms, 1901-2020 which is published by Headstamp Publishing (i.e Gun Jesus among others
@Mike Oskam I don't think that's it, because on some he didn't have a reference already. So I believe they were just missed. Honestly disappointing, I was looking forward to the 1851 cold navy
@@FNNIGGA445 I think you're right, and I've definitely seen multiple Springfield rifles in the Leeds museum, they probably recorded more and it just didn't make the final cut, shame.
I love how you can truly see the evolution of how the Volcanic Pistol evolved into the Henry Rifle, which then evolved into the 1866 Winchester. One of my favorite stories is how Winchester, Henry, and Smith & Wesson all worked together at separate times to perfect a repeating gun that started as a pistol, and evolved into one of the most famous rifles of it's time.
I always found it quite impressive how accurate Micah was with his shots considering how fast he fires his double actions, let alone dual wielding them
*"THIS is the greatest Handgun ever made... The Colt Single Action Army, Six bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves..."* - Revolver "Revolver Ocelot" Ocelot
@@thewolf6943 You are not alone as when I was younger I thought all revolvers were magnums, but I thought that for years until I see playthroughs of Resident evil 2 having the SAA has a seconding gun that uses 9mm, I thought it was strange until I got like RDR at some point some years ago, then I decided to go on a internet hunt and learn that revolvers were the first/earliest brass cartridge guns, not only that a number of brass cartridge guns existed around the civil war era. Just that the Musket was percussion cap, imagine if you fully upgraded your starting weapon in a game, that is the musket.
What makes me like this guy (other than his expertise obviously), is the fact that he understands that games have to be balanced for the sake of good gameplay. I see a lot of experts, especially older people, that doesn't understand why gaming companies doesn't go all-out when they have the resources to do so with ease and they don't understand that most games are not made for the purpose of being super realistic, like Tarkov for example. Great guy!
Need to do Hunt Showdown, a great mix of highly realistic Wild West weapons and weird botch job anachronisms like the Mosin Avtomat (I’d love to know if that’s feasible or not)
@@moistewater9437 the Huot Auto Rifle was also featured on Battlefield 1. Hunt: Showdown features Huot's action and drum magazine fitted into a Mosin-Nagant's stock.
@skOsH Hunt is kinda of like tarkov with a lot of its own elements and a completely different time period, defo watch videos on it jackfrags did a couple of you want to see a big RUclipsr play it, it’s so tense and incredibly satisfying when you exfill
@@Colter94 It is true that I never played the games, but wasn’t John the protagonist from the first game, and Arthur Morgan the protagonist of the second?
@@owencarey2954 alright so first of, massive spoiler warning if anyone reading this wants to buy the game. Arthur eventually dies, in chapter 6, Arthur knows he´s going to die so he tries to help as many people as possible and kinda redeems himself. After that you play as John who tries to leave his gang past behind and start a new life with his family. You spend the two chapters building Beechers hope in which you live in RDR1. So you get to play as both of them, I´m sorry that this explanation was a bit long, but I just love this game.
I feel like Rockstar did a good job at keeping them as realistic as possible, while also keeping in mind playability in game. And honestly I feel that the compromises that were made were to smooth the experience to allow a fun variation of it. Like how the hammers magically are cocked once they come back into view.
@@eddie_23 Hunt guns are way above EFT when it comes to models and handling. And especialy when it comes to sound effects. Hunt has the best sound in gaming, period.
@@Chelios__ It would be cool if it was like a tool or such that you could bring. I won't lie though the uppercut reload is a visual representation of satisfaction haha
Now I'm not an "expert" with firearms, but I know that from research, the M1899 Pistol is the FN Browning M1900 which uses .32 ACP. That's a pretty bold sidearm to carry around in the Wild West.
Pausing - When he talks about the Volcanic, he makes no mention of how in game it appears to be ejecting spent casings, when the Volcanic used caseless ammunition.
Also, I dunno if it's just me but I feel like Rockstar is mocking the irl counterpart of the gun by making it OP in game, contrary to how the gun was in reality
@@angrypancake4358 Well the lemat did exist, however it was a percussion revolver. The lemat mark 2 ingame fires bullets. The hunters do a lot of gunsmithing and modding, sawing off barels, adding blades and scopes.
Great video! One thing on the pump shotgun that bothered me so much, though, is that you never rack the pump right before you shoot. That messes up your aim and puts more stress on you right before the shot. You rack it right after you shoot so you're ready on the followup and can concentrate on aiming. It felt so off.
All that rod is, is a speed loader. They made very few of them during the civil War for the Cavalry to reload on horse back. He opens up the buttstock, and dumps the rounds in using the rod/tube.
I know this had been said countless of times before but I feel like we need to stress on it more: I fucking love this wise man's knowledge of games and game design ON TOP of weapon knowledge, such a remarkable person...also huge thanks for starting and actually maintaining this series Gamespot!
@@endornaut They are! It's probably the best and most realistic portrayal of late 19th century firearms. There's also some very interesting fantasy weapons!
Great video, and as a regular Leeds visitor it's nice to see Jonathan bringing his extraordinary breadth of knowledge to the wider world as well. I'd love to see s future mini-series going through the Sniper Elite 4 arsenal
The only complaint I have with that game really is that, the guns you have always has the same serial number where you can see it. It would be nice to have two or three versions to play with, maybe a clean or dirty one. Just a minor gripe really, more variety in weapons, or even different conditions of the same weapons would be nice. besides not having the tech to play the game without lagging too much thus dying all the time. I have a question tho for veterans, with or without sleeves?
I own multiple modern firearms but I love my older firearms that were pass down in my family. My grandpa passed down a few Marlin lever actions and a colt single action Navy model. They are simply beautiful! I’ll never sell them.
The Last Hard Men with Charlton Heston and James Coburn also. Great list of movies you’ve comprised. I forgot about The Professionals and I’m disappointed in myself because I love that movie.
I really appreciate this guy giving us demonstrations with actual guns of his. Even though they’re incredibly valuable and well kept, he still used them to show differences.
Awww shit. It's Saturday. I got my tea, I'm in my jammies, and here I am watching Jonathan Ferguson talk about guns. It's going to be a good day 'tater.
So glad to have actually been to the Royal Armouries in Leeds, some of the most interesting weapons in one place. Used to go there once a year, until the pandemic atleast.
Could be nice to see a video about: -hunt showdown for more or less the same era -rising storm 2 vietnam -insurgency sandstorm Great video in general, keep up the interesting work
That's something that I think Tarkov does well. Topping off the gun with an extra bullet when you load one into the chamber. I wish more games could pick up on that.
Rare guns featured in Red Dead 2 there's quite a few of them but my personal favorite in Red Dead 2 when it comes to rare guns is the lemat revolver and the trapdoor Springfield
The Browning Auto 5 is a bit of a weird one in this game. It was first designed and prototyped in 1898...but it didn't actually enter production until 1902. So technically this gun is both anachronistic AND period accurate at the same time (since the game time-skips from 1899 to 1907).
The broom handle Mauser, or one of its descendants, became the basis for a very famous sci fi weapon. The prop department of Star Wars turned it into the DL-44 blaster, the side arm Han Solo carries around… and kills Greedo with.
I actually read the book that Jonathan wrote on the c96 carbine, the mauser, and it was very informative and I was surprised how enjoyable reading it was! Anyway keep making the great content!
I love how this guy actually plays games and realizes that some things are done mainly to look cool in game
And for gameplay balance
Guy knows his games and his guns, fucking legend
I was just about to say that!
Most reactors never take that into account and it’s very frustrating
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 You'd think the people running the show would let them in on that. "Oh, btw usually in games this is like this for x reasons to make it more enjoyable and fun for the player/easier for the player."
I like that the high level weapons in rdr1 and 2 are less western-y. It really drives home the message of the sun setting on the wild west
Couldn’t have said it better
Especially with the semi automatic shotgun and pistols
Well said
Yea, but the stats let alone someone owning those guns is stupid. The volcanic pistol predates alot of the guns in the game but wasnt popular due to it being underpowered, the cattleman is underpowered in the game also. It should be the most powerful handgun of the game with the scholfeild after it, the navy revolver and lemat shoudlnt be as powerful as there are because they took smaller calibers but also took less powder same as the Schofield. The double action should be one of the weakest, so should the pistols
@@andrewiannelli7635 you can be a cowboy for a while. But eventually you accept the ways the world is changing or you die
A bit of a shame that The Schofield wasn't covered. Not only is it my favourite of the RDR2 revolvers, it also keeps it's real name for a pretty dark reason. The reason that there's no licensing problem, is because the Schofield who invented it, shot himself with the gun that shared his name.
Especially the lemat
I know this is a 2 year old comment and I'll look it up myself as well, but why would that allow the name to be used without licensing? Did he die before he could patent it? Or some other reason? I'll update this comment with what I find :)
Update: I couldn't find much info, but to reiterate and expand on OPs comment a bit, the Schofield Revolver was named after Major George Schofield who modified the Smith and Wesson Model 3 to be easier to reload while on horseback, cutting reload time in half (around 30 seconds to fully reload the Schofield variant). It became popular enough amongst the cavalry that Smith and Wesson patented the modified design, naming it after the Major. Compared to the Colt 45 it had a bit less power and recoil that made it easier to shoot accurately, but still kept it's stopping power. Eventually it was standardized to accept .45 Schofield and .45 Colt rounds interchangeably.
Major Scholfield did indeed commit suicide with a Schofield in his full military gear in 1882, 3 years after his wife died and 9 years after the Schofield Revolver was patented.
I couldn't find anything about why R* can use some names like the Schofield, Volcanic, and (I believe) the Rolling Block Rifle, but if I had to guess I'd think it comes down to either: the real names they use are public domain or they only paid for the licensing for those specific guns for whatever reason.
"Gun lore" is kinda interesting sometimes I suppose
@@rellix6528thanks for doing the heavy lifting for me
It's my favorite gun in the game to the point my first revolver is going to be a Schofield
@@rellix6528 I think the name would of copy righted at the time but If Im right I think copy rights die with the person who filed the copyright
Finally someone who doesn't just rant about the speed of the reloads. This guy gets games, a real professional
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z duru sandstorm
The reload speed is a major issue with online. You may not know this but rockstar sped up reload speed and changed third person movement to make the game more arcadey.
Doing that in context of a game that focused so much on realism in small details, this sucked and contributed to a lot of players quitting the game. It’s not the only reason by any means. But it contributed.
@@Drmikaeru i mean , its still a game. Imagine if you have to take MINUTES to reload a weapon
@@Kira-ik8ld it was fine in single player. Those designers are real artists. They perfectly balanced gameplay necessities with believability. When RDO first came out, it was very different from how the online team butchered it.
"I didn't write the book on these but I wrote A book on these..." - Very subtle flex there Jonathan.
Humble king
I wrote a book on claiming writing the book on something having no value. Because in the last ten years there are now more books published per year than there are humans, and they have lost all value.
@@bashpr0mpt719 "books have lost all value"
No they haven't, you bloody drama queen.
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z Insurgency: Sandstorm
One of the early Volcanic Pistols was so incredibly weak, that someone purchased one in order to "end themselves". The day after they shot themselves in the head, they returned the pistol to the store. There are "weak" pistol calibres, and then there is the Volcanic Pistol. Its in its own class.
Another comment [above actually] says that was the inventor.
Yeah, there’s only so much powder you can fit inside of a hollowed out bullet. It was not a good gun, definitely- but it’s still very cool. I mean look at it, it uses caseless ammunition and is called the “volcanic.”
@@fromthebackseat4865 rdr2 showcases what it easily could've been though, same with the LeMat if they were both paper cartridge firing en masse and if the Volcanic upped it's velocity. The volcanic is honestly revolutionary in design for it's time, it's just the power and ammo type make it little more than a souped up airsoft pistol irl.
Well, more like _"Someone told that story in print in an age of particularly florid journalism and no one can actually confirm it ever happened,"_ but yeah
Gotta give props to whoever wrote the articles for the volcanic in the gunsmith book. The explanation of rocket ball to Brass bullets seems logical to me tbh.
"Correct me if I'm wrong"
... Well you're kinda the expert here Jonathan, I don't know how I could 😅
Lol yeah I'd like to meet the person who can correct him. I'd sub to their channel too 😄
@@IncrediPaulAZ you mean you're not already subbed to Forgotten Weapons? :P
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z SQUAD I’m pretty shure of it it’s the only game that I know of the shows weapons in detail with there real military designated names like the m110 sass
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z That's Insurgency: Sandstorm
"Arthur is cocking it one handed which I think is impossible"
Arthur is a legend of the west he can do whatever he wants
in the video its acutally John
@@Colter94 John is a legend of the west as well.
@@lordsickomode he’s aight not Arthur tho
@@reaper3509 your joking right
@@dunbass7149 no? John was meh. I never got attached like I did with Arthur. I didn’t think he was as badass and cool ect. I was fucking depressed when Arthur died lmao.
I like how this guy doesn't complain about everything, he explains why they're realistic or not realistic and even gives some reasons why rockstar couldn't do certain things (such as with the sawed offs cocking mechanism)
I sincerely hope you've seen a rise in donations towards the museum. Sadly, I can't afford to help out myself, but really feel like this show deserves some support.
Not a problem, I'm here to share the collection and hopefully some insight; any donations are strictly a bonus :)
@@jonathanferguson1211 Could it be the link/site in the description is broken (or even hacked)? It takes me to a weird menu, when I click donations, it seems to load something for a second and then reloads the same menu. If I click on "trusts and foundations" clearly loads a scam site
@@FVDV1 yep, for me too
@@jonathanferguson1211 would you consider to do a stream for donations? People love you and can watch you talk about guns for hours
Would like to visit it
“Have you seen my friend, Gavin?”
- Gavin’s Friend
Gavin's story is better than most assassin's creed's protagonists.
GAVIN!?
I killed that guy
His name was nigel
What happend to him did he find gavin?
"The Volcanic seems to perform like a handcannon in-game"
Isn't that odd? Since I thought the downfall of the Volcanic was overall weak and expensive ammo. So in reality it was a massive underperformer if anything. Maybe I'm wrong about that though.
The Forgotten Weapons video on it said that the ammunition was so underpowered that the inventor couldn't even kill himself with the pistol bullet.
@@Themaxwithnoname okay, I thought I recalled something like that from Ian. I was just too lazy to go back and rewatch it before making my comment.
It mentions in game if you read newspapers or catalogs that the manufacturer in the story modernizes the design to use the same ammunition as other pistols or something like that. That's also why it's shown to use brass casings and takes 'repeater ammo'.
@@Themaxwithnoname It wasn’t the inventor that tried to do that in the story, it was just some guy who bought the gun to do specifically that with it. It’s also worth noting that he’s said to have got the .31 caliber version, which was the weaker of the two calibers you could get it in. And critically, that was an anecdotal story; it’d be incredibly difficult to confirm if that actually happened and if it’s actually true. It may be a true story, or it may have been an exaggeration, or possibly even have been a true story that was just a fluke because he got a bad batch of ammo or something.
Was the Volcanic underpowered? Hell yes.
Was it so underpowered that you couldn’t even shoot yourself with it? Maybe.
@Gato_Gamer 89 my bad it takes pistol ammo
The double action revolver in rdr actually does have a precision penalty when using it in double action (you can see it better in third person or without aiming down the sights in first person) but actually you can shoot it single action if you press the aim button before every shot, and have better precision
Cool
I noticed this a while back, dope
wish they made to where you could squeeze the trigger to shoot in single action to simulate an accurate single action shot and tap to shoot double action.
Then again it's rockstar if *they* didn't think of it they won't add it because of their ego. Just like they never thought to release a game that isn't unfinished or at the very least add patches to story mode to fix the recent bugs they created with the online update... mooks.
@@joebenson528 it is literally so realistic that you can barely pull the trigger on the double action and the cylinder will barely move
The thing about dual wielding it is yes its less accurate, but if you use Gunslingers Choice (tier 3 is most effective) it makes it the best weapon in the game fr.
The man just has a WA2000 casually sitting in the background.
What a legend.
ikrrr
I have money on a hitman gun review
@Alfred Pemberton uts not over hyped its just super rare
@@anxietyonfilm1421 they already did one
@Alfred Pemberton no the gun itself is literally super rare. As of right now
So refreshing to hear one of these experts actually understand it’s a game and so realism sometimes has to be bent to keep gameplay fluid. Love this guy and “ok pause…” is definitely my new catchphrase in life.
Cap
"Both Red Dead games"
Me: * cries in Red Dead Revolver *
does anybody even remember that one?
@@scythe960 obviously yes. We are few, but it will live forever in our hearts x)
Kind of surprised not as many people talk about it. Then again, it wasn't one of Rockstar's greatest. Red Dead Redemption was definitely a big step up in terms of gameplay and graphics, but without Revolver, there is no Redemption.
@@Predalien195 without hotel, there is no trivago
Drinks bleach in undead nightmare
"Hunt-Showdown" is a game set in 1895. There are some interesting guns in there such as the mosin nagant, the lebel and a c96.
And the nitro express
the bomblance
I'd like to see an episode on that.
I was just going to write a comment on Hunt and saw this. I really want him to take a look at it
@@h-bombsforcatsincthedevtes4192 i wrote this only to realize its the entire comment section lol
Mad respect to the guy recording all this. They had to play sort of far into the game to be able to unlock all the guns and then drop their honor all the way down for the footage.
Saves...
He probably greeted all of saint denis at least twice to compensate
Cheat codes probably
Low honor is the only way to play the game.
@@ashmybluntsure
Guy gets to just casually sit in front of a WA2000, lucky sod.
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
Was looking at it and thinking that is the sniper rifle in Hitman Blood Money
@@Joyful_Traitor Oh yeah, a couple of the hitman games have it
@@alephkasai9384 it's in cod mw2
@@pexleptic2672 it’s also in BO1
“He’s cocking it with one hand, and I think that’s impossible”
Hickok45:
also it took me five months to realize he was talking about a volcanic revolver
I can't recall any video where Hickock shoots the Volcanic pistol. Could you link it?
@@William_Sk he was making a lazy joke
Hickok45 is awesome!
Chuck Norris can do it.
@@William_Sk i think he said that because hickock45 has big hands
I love that he cringes when he dry fires the gun.
Awwww He didn't cover the Carcano.
You'd think they would have snap caps or dummy rounds for that very purpose
I was also pretty upset that the Carcano wasn't talked about. It's also REALLY criminal John didn't talk about the LeMat, aka the Revolver with a shotgun built into it. Who knows, maybe a part 2? I mean if TF2 got a part to, RDR2 should defiantly get one too! Maybe the Carcano and the LeMat will be in that one, you never know!
I wanted to see what he thought of the semi auto pistol. I dont know much but it looked similar to the german ww2 pistol that i forgot the name
@@sjtiernan5841 he talks about the Mauser in this video
@@SirButtRichardson no not the mauser the other one that looks similar to a luger but had a longer piece on top
Why they provided him footage of the character shooting HUMANS with the varmint rifle is beyond me. I wish instead they had mentioned to him the fact that the Varmint Rifle is included in the game precisely because this isn't just a bandit simulator but also a pretty damn good hunting simulator and you need that gun to get perfect pelts on Rabbits, Badgers, Skunks, and other "varmints".
The Varmint and Springfield were my go-to guns for the hunting
@@johndmgs same here
I mean, you can see it in thefootage how weak that weapon is againts people. From what I've heard, the .22 is quite a weak calibre.
@@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски i accidentally shot myself in the thigh with a .22 once it felt like a wasp sting,it did hurt a lot more when i had to dig the bullet out though.
it surprised me a lot that coyotes and foxes needed a repeater,in real life its encouraged that you hunt them with .22 Winchester even makes special .22 rounds for them.
Not gonna lie, really wanted to see the LeMat.
Onward to forgotten weapons
As for weapons Rockstar has cheated a bit with... I'd say the LeMat is one of the worst contenders haha. It's amazing to look at in real life, but it's frustrating as hell to reload.
@@LongTimeAgoNL oh yeah, don’t you need to remove the entire cylinder in real life?
@@LongTimeAgoNL LeMat is a pretty good gun in rdr2 suckw they don't put these additional weapons to the campaign like how all weapons from the campaign in rdr1 were put into rdr2.
Rdr2 the LeMat Is nice to use cuz of its toggle fire with two shotgun shots.
Unreal but still they were trying it out so its not just another pistol also in rdr1 they really had the guns correctly where they were supposed to be rdr2 bruh they downgraded alot of weapons.....
Masuer semi automatic pistol was one of the best pistols in rdr1 aside from HP/high power pistol.
The best lever action was Evans repeater in rdr1 cuz of it not having the stupid stats from rdr2.
Rdr1 weapons got degraded so bad thanks rdr2.
I like the game but still theres alot of issues with them firearms in the game.
@@koreancowboy42 In RDR2 I wish it was double action.
But it’d be way too OP in that case.
It’s just a fun, unique, attractive gun
the La Matt as cool as it is is kind of odd to see corect me if im wrong bout only just over 1000 whre ever built i belve
As I own a single action revolver, I think what's happening in the beginning with Arthur "thumbing the hammer" is simply that he's holding the trigger down (As you would when you fan the hammer) and simply releasing the hammer from under his thumb when he's ready to fire. Still strange, but it is faster than cocking then pulling the trigger.
that's not even what's happening tho lol
Nah it's just the animation doesn't have enough time to complete
Its to prevent input lag
This is Jonathan Ferguson and he is my new best mate.
Cay icek mi?
Lol you should inform him of that
The book he wrote is called "The ‘Broomhandle’ Mauser" if anyone is interested.
Cool! Thanx
Cuz there arent enough books on that already.
He has written more than one book :) He also kickstarted a book called Thorneycroft to SA80: British Bullpup Firearms, 1901-2020 which is published by Headstamp Publishing (i.e Gun Jesus among others
This needs a part 2! They missed some of my favorites, the Schofield, the Springfield, and many others!
Maybe they didn't have such models in the museum, I guess.
Yeah like getting hold of a LaMatt is very difficult due to how rare it is.
@Mike Oskam I don't think that's it, because on some he didn't have a reference already. So I believe they were just missed. Honestly disappointing, I was looking forward to the 1851 cold navy
@@FNNIGGA445 I think you're right, and I've definitely seen multiple Springfield rifles in the Leeds museum, they probably recorded more and it just didn't make the final cut, shame.
The lemat
This man is a legend and he should know that. I really hope he has fun doing those vids
what is the game at 0:24 pleaseee
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z insurgency Sandstorm
Agreed!!!
Wouldn’t mind seeing him do Hunt: Showdown with it being a bit more out there.
If not Verdun for the WW1 weapons and reload times.
Pretty much the same weapons, as its pretty much the same era within reason.
@OGlettuceWEED they added cross-play at least for consoles so there is usually one lobby, at peak times you can definitely find one
@OGlettuceWEED it may only be PS to Xbox, I’m unsure about PC
Hunt has surprisingly accurate guns for it being horror fantasy :))
Your wish has been granted
Dual wield sawed offs be like "where's the reticle?" "the screen."
Arthur's gun handling is simply superhuman. He can load a Spencer with the loading tube, and make it work flawlessly every time.
pretty sure it was John Marston throughout 90% of the video though.
But they handle their guns pretty much identical. So your point still stands.
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@@user-nv7fx1gd7z I believe it’s rainbow 6 siege
@@Softpaw1996 John and Arthur are freaks of nature when it comes to reloading
Show him "Hunt : Showdown"
There are a lot more guns of this era.
I was just about to mention that! Youre a man of culture mate
the full-auto mosin? yeah it would be fun to watch him react to that
Totally. Hunt is quite good when it comes to portraying firearms correctly.
Dude just about to mention that aswell great game cool guns
Dudes Hunt: Showdown please
I love how you can truly see the evolution of how the Volcanic Pistol evolved into the Henry Rifle, which then evolved into the 1866 Winchester. One of my favorite stories is how Winchester, Henry, and Smith & Wesson all worked together at separate times to perfect a repeating gun that started as a pistol, and evolved into one of the most famous rifles of it's time.
This guy needs his own channel
There is the royal armouries Chanel he appears on regularly
Its in the description fam
He has his own channel..
I would be really interesting to se him talk about hunt: showdown
Waiting for it as well xD .
I was just thinking that. I’m interested to see how accurate the guns actually are.
I just came from a hunt video lol
came here to talk about hunt, glad to see someone comenting about it too :D
Yeees.
I always found it quite impressive how accurate Micah was with his shots considering how fast he fires his double actions, let alone dual wielding them
*"THIS is the greatest Handgun ever made... The Colt Single Action Army, Six bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves..."*
- Revolver "Revolver Ocelot" Ocelot
Revolver "revolver" revolver
When I was kid I thought that he was using a Magnum never know that he is using a Colt single action revolver
@@thewolf6943 magnum "magnum Ocelot" ocelot
@@thewolf6943 You are not alone as when I was younger I thought all revolvers were magnums, but I thought that for years until I see playthroughs of Resident evil 2 having the SAA has a seconding gun that uses 9mm, I thought it was strange until I got like RDR at some point some years ago, then I decided to go on a internet hunt and learn that revolvers were the first/earliest brass cartridge guns, not only that a number of brass cartridge guns existed around the civil war era.
Just that the Musket was percussion cap, imagine if you fully upgraded your starting weapon in a game, that is the musket.
Aside from 8 people tied together
Okay, now he needs to see the weapons in The Hunt: Showdown
Ooh, that game is awesome when playing at night alone in the dark.
@@Doobency A freak like me loves the dark. Know what I mean, big boy.
or a GTA or a Resident evil game
Pretty much the same weapons, as its pretty much the same era within reason.
Battlefield V is a possibility but Squad might be a really good choice given its another Tarkov type game with some emphasis on realism.
What makes me like this guy (other than his expertise obviously), is the fact that he understands that games have to be balanced for the sake of good gameplay. I see a lot of experts, especially older people, that doesn't understand why gaming companies doesn't go all-out when they have the resources to do so with ease and they don't understand that most games are not made for the purpose of being super realistic, like Tarkov for example.
Great guy!
Need to do Hunt Showdown, a great mix of highly realistic Wild West weapons and weird botch job anachronisms like the Mosin Avtomat (I’d love to know if that’s feasible or not)
The avto is based on the Huot(spellcheck), which came out in in the early 20th century. Forgotten Weapons did an episode on it.
@@moistewater9437 the Huot Auto Rifle was also featured on Battlefield 1. Hunt: Showdown features Huot's action and drum magazine fitted into a Mosin-Nagant's stock.
Yep, Hunt is really good game, specially around them weapons(eventho some of them dont even have a real name) and reloading is just so realistic !
Do Hunt: Showdown, same time period and the gunplay is so satisfying.
Beat me to it! Love hunt so much!
@skOsH Hunt is kinda of like tarkov with a lot of its own elements and a completely different time period, defo watch videos on it jackfrags did a couple of you want to see a big RUclipsr play it, it’s so tense and incredibly satisfying when you exfill
Guns may be satisfying, other hunters turning their heads at the speed of light, isn't
NPC: "You don't seem to be very good at this!"
Arthur: "What you say??!"
thats John
@@Colter94 It is true that I never played the games, but wasn’t John the protagonist from the first game, and Arthur Morgan the protagonist of the second?
@@owencarey2954 you are able to play both
@@Colter94 Really? My bad.
@@owencarey2954 alright so first of, massive spoiler warning if anyone reading this wants to buy the game.
Arthur eventually dies, in chapter 6, Arthur knows he´s going to die so he tries to help as many people as possible and kinda redeems himself. After that you play as John who tries to leave his gang past behind and start a new life with his family. You spend the two chapters building Beechers hope in which you live in RDR1. So you get to play as both of them, I´m sorry that this explanation was a bit long, but I just love this game.
In the words of Count Dooku
“I’ve been looking forward to this”
"This is where the fun begins"
“I’ll try spinning, that’s a good trick”
"Mmmmmm Tasty milk"
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
Ahh yes, the “Rhymes with poo poo” Count Dooku
How refreshing it is to have an expert who actually has some experience on playing the video games he is reviewing
I feel like Rockstar did a good job at keeping them as realistic as possible, while also keeping in mind playability in game. And honestly I feel that the compromises that were made were to smooth the experience to allow a fun variation of it. Like how the hammers magically are cocked once they come back into view.
After seeing this we have to have him react to Hunt Showdown! the weapon animations and detail in that game are second to none!
you seen eft guns? those are definitely the best i have seen in any game
@@eddie_23 oh yeah EFT is just nuts full stop haha but they've done 2 videos on EFT so I want hunt to get some love :D
@@eddie_23 Hunt guns are way above EFT when it comes to models and handling. And especialy when it comes to sound effects. Hunt has the best sound in gaming, period.
I wish the ejector rod was used in reloads in Hunt.
@@Chelios__ It would be cool if it was like a tool or such that you could bring. I won't lie though the uppercut reload is a visual representation of satisfaction haha
The way he can’t brag about writing a book is so British
ayyy me little armalite
Oh he brags. He just does it like a Brit. Discreetly.
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z I’ve been asking the exact same thing
The way he talks about firearms is fairly British too.
Now I'm not an "expert" with firearms, but I know that from research, the M1899 Pistol is the FN Browning M1900 which uses .32 ACP. That's a pretty bold sidearm to carry around in the Wild West.
Actually it's the FN Browning M1899, which was actually for civilian use, unlike the M1900, which was just for Belgian military use.
Pausing - When he talks about the Volcanic, he makes no mention of how in game it appears to be ejecting spent casings, when the Volcanic used caseless ammunition.
In the in-game description in the catalogue, they talk about how they upgraded to cartridge ammo, most likely to justify making the gun usable
Also, I dunno if it's just me but I feel like Rockstar is mocking the irl counterpart of the gun by making it OP in game, contrary to how the gun was in reality
Wow what a nerd
The 'rocket ball' ammo was so weak that there is a story of someone trying to kill himself with the gun and only getting a headache.
@@Mirokuofnite i've heard of that one,yeah
would love to see him look at Hunt Showdown guns
This, yes please.
100% agree
Would like to see the reaction especialy for Sparks LLR, Lebel, Auto Mosin, Nitro express and LeMat
@@angrypancake4358 Well the lemat did exist, however it was a percussion revolver. The lemat mark 2 ingame fires bullets. The hunters do a lot of gunsmithing and modding, sawing off barels, adding blades and scopes.
I can't take my eyes off the WA2000 behind him. What a lovely rifle.
The fact that he knew the game and had even played it was such a welcome bonus to this very cool video.
Would love to see Jonathan reacting to the Hunt: Showdown weapons!
He knows his stuff, unlike other so called weapons specialists.
He really needs to check out the weapons of Hunt: Showdown!
Pretty much the same weapons, as its pretty much the same era within reason.
You must be fun at parties
@@P47HFIND3R Calm down Weeb.
@@stan464 lol, name-calling? What are you, in 8th-grade?
@@P47HFIND3R Calm down Weeb.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Hunt: Showdown will be the next video.
Great video!
One thing on the pump shotgun that bothered me so much, though, is that you never rack the pump right before you shoot. That messes up your aim and puts more stress on you right before the shot. You rack it right after you shoot so you're ready on the followup and can concentrate on aiming. It felt so off.
I was hoping to hear him talk about the Carbine Repeater that's loaded with a rod.
All that rod is, is a speed loader. They made very few of them during the civil War for the Cavalry to reload on horse back. He opens up the buttstock, and dumps the rounds in using the rod/tube.
@synthlizard8 it's called a Spencer carbine and it was used by the union is the civil war.
I'm pretty sure forgotten weapons has an episode about these speed loaders if you're interested.
@@nickmichaels6516 I am, thanks, I'll give it a watch.
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
I know this had been said countless of times before but I feel like we need to stress on it more: I fucking love this wise man's knowledge of games and game design ON TOP of weapon knowledge, such a remarkable person...also huge thanks for starting and actually maintaining this series Gamespot!
I feel like someone showing up with a Browning Auto-5 in Arthur's time would be like someone showing up to a firefight with Kal-tec shotgun today.
I mean it was released in 1902 so not really no lol
I dont know why im here, but im looking for my friend, his name is “Gavin”.
I thought I tied you up and threw you in Flat Iron Lake? How did you get free
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z honestly couldn't tell you and I'm a console gamer so it must be a game that is exclusive to PC
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z it's Insurgency: Sandstorm. PC exclusive and you can find it on steam!
Here I am, British as well
I'd love to see him cover the LeMat, C93 Borchardt and also the M1899 because that would be absolute money!
There's a kind of irony in a British gun expert talking about weapons from the American west.
Firearms Expert reacts to Hunt: Showdown guns.
Are they also based on real guns? (I just don't know, just curious)
@@endornaut They are! It's probably the best and most realistic portrayal of late 19th century firearms. There's also some very interesting fantasy weapons!
Is it weird that I heard sukkas voice
@@doppelpunktdrei7650 Thanks for letting me know I had no idea!
Can he just get his own channel already. We need more of these
he already has one but he has no videos
Great video, and as a regular Leeds visitor it's nice to see Jonathan bringing his extraordinary breadth of knowledge to the wider world as well. I'd love to see s future mini-series going through the Sniper Elite 4 arsenal
Three words and one number:
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam.
yes
It would be neat to see if he's got a K-50M or K43.
@@Horgler yea imagine that
The only complaint I have with that game really is that, the guns you have always has the same serial number where you can see it. It would be nice to have two or three versions to play with, maybe a clean or dirty one. Just a minor gripe really, more variety in weapons, or even different conditions of the same weapons would be nice. besides not having the tech to play the game without lagging too much thus dying all the time. I have a question tho for veterans, with or without sleeves?
yeah i think he would be pleasantly surprised by it. and he may enjoy all the strange aussie weapons.
Hunt: The Showdown should be a good one to do
I own multiple modern firearms but I love my older firearms that were pass down in my family. My grandpa passed down a few Marlin lever actions and a colt single action Navy model. They are simply beautiful! I’ll never sell them.
Never seen a Western with a pump action shotgun?
A couple examples:
The Professionals
100 Rifles
The Wild Bunch
Thought I'd seen one in The Wild Bunch, couldn't remember for sure. It's a fair comment though, they're not common.
The Last Hard Men with Charlton Heston and James Coburn also. Great list of movies you’ve comprised. I forgot about The Professionals and I’m disappointed in myself because I love that movie.
Love them thangs
The varmint rifle in game is only used for getting clean kills with birds, rodents and lizards
Only after they nerfed it in early Beta, because it was a headshot machine.
It was broken in MP because of the headshot damage but it got nerfed
I really appreciate this guy giving us demonstrations with actual guns of his. Even though they’re incredibly valuable and well kept, he still used them to show differences.
If the Krag Jorgensen isn’t in here imma be disappointed.
Edit: was not disappointed.
lol
I was disappointed that the Carcano, double barrel, and the Schofield weren't there.
Awww shit. It's Saturday. I got my tea, I'm in my jammies, and here I am watching Jonathan Ferguson talk about guns. It's going to be a good day 'tater.
The varmint rifle was evil at the beginning of online lmao
Be good to see him look at the DayZ firearms - there's a couple of obscure ones in there
rockstar should hire this guy for consultant work in any next RDR game
So glad to have actually been to the Royal Armouries in Leeds, some of the most interesting weapons in one place. Used to go there once a year, until the pandemic atleast.
The only game out there where I don't usually use guns because I feel like I literally killed a person.
You must be a psychopath
@@heavymetalmikey95 wh... why
Because you compared killing A real person To pixels And how would you know what killing somebody is like Can have that feeling and less you done it
@@heavymetalmikey95 he's just saying the game is so realistic, you feel like you've killed a person
@@heavymetalmikey95 Mikey, it’s not that heard to understand... He doesn’t kill because these NPCs feel like real people who have real lives.
This guy has basically become GameSpot's mascot.
nah the other way around.
colt SAA is my favorite hand gun IRL, so i was quite happy to see it fairly well represented
If you got this guy in a room with every gun that ever existed then he would know every name. This guy is a legend 👍👍
Love how he knows that most things are done for in-game looks, absolute legend
That WA 2000 in the background has my heart thumping.
Could be nice to see a video about:
-hunt showdown for more or less the same era
-rising storm 2 vietnam
-insurgency sandstorm
Great video in general, keep up the interesting work
verdun and beyond the wire would be interesting too.
That's something that I think Tarkov does well. Topping off the gun with an extra bullet when you load one into the chamber. I wish more games could pick up on that.
Rainbow 6 siege does it
Its the only other one i can really think of
mgsv TPP does that too
phantom forces does it pretty well
you mean how you get extra round in magazine if you still had round in chamber? dude that has been in games for ages.
Rare guns featured in Red Dead 2 there's quite a few of them but my personal favorite in Red Dead 2 when it comes to rare guns is the lemat revolver and the trapdoor Springfield
This guy is the British version of Ian McCollum. Would love to see more videos with Jonathan Ferguson.
Plz make more videos with this guy. He's fucking awesome.
I think RDR2 has the best blend of realism and fun gameplay in any video game, especially in the reloads
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This guy needs to be an advisor for game devs making shooting games
Why does he seem like a character that simon pegg plays.
what is the game at 0:24 pleasee
Shaun of the dead
Winchester mentioned
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z I think it's Insurgency sandstorm, tho could be wrong.
@@user-nv7fx1gd7z Insurgency: Sandstorm. Only on PC at the moment.
"keeper of firearms and artillery" has to be the coolest title ever
you can't just tease us with insurgency: sandstorm he has to react to it now!
YES he needs to do insurgency and post scripum. The sounds and realism on both games would please him
I would love to see Hot Dogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades.
Some of the best firearms representation.
Jon Ferguson is so awesome. I’d definitely watch him do more than talk about guns in games. Great stuff.
This mans bounty is 870.00. 2:02 Wtf!
The Browning Auto 5 is a bit of a weird one in this game. It was first designed and prototyped in 1898...but it didn't actually enter production until 1902.
So technically this gun is both anachronistic AND period accurate at the same time (since the game time-skips from 1899 to 1907).
The broom handle Mauser, or one of its descendants, became the basis for a very famous sci fi weapon. The prop department of Star Wars turned it into the DL-44 blaster, the side arm Han Solo carries around… and kills Greedo with.
I actually read the book that Jonathan wrote on the c96 carbine, the mauser, and it was very informative and I was surprised how enjoyable reading it was! Anyway keep making the great content!