So, there are two camps when it comes to changing oil in your Talaria. I've made videos on both, so here's a link to the other way: ruclips.net/video/JmdkqrQpbUo/видео.htmlsi=Im7jc5-er6Un-8kC
I like your advice. Just changed mine at 55 miles. Factory only had 60ml in it, I put 90ml back in after raising tire 6 inches. Now the problem I see is when your check your dipstick with both tires on the ground, oil will come out.!!
Pro tip, any 6 point fastener should be matched with a 6 point socket. The 12 point or similar universal style are for 12 point fasteners. Then you get a solid bite on the flat surfaces and will take max tq - won't strip. 12 pt are like a diesel or high tq type fastener. Has anyone used Amsoil on an ebike yet? Did phenomenal things to Duramax and even an air compressor. Might up the speed and lower temp 🤔
Just to add to the confusion; I've heard 75-90ml of oil is correct. 150ml is too much and will force oil out of the breather. This seems to be info right from Talaria and other reliable sources GritShift. I carefully measured mine, it came from the factory with 82 ml in it. I did have to tilt the bike to get 82ml back in it. Turns out you were close to right in your first video.
Huh, I want to do a video where I ride with 150ml then reduce it to half and see if that 150ml created a noticeable amount of resistance to effect the range. Maybe when it warms up.
I'm curious if you will get oil leakage through the air pipe under the seat near to the battery. I got oil leakage over there in hot weather. I'm still not convinced if the gears has to be full of oil. As far as I know if gear reaches some oil it is still enough to lubricate the gears. It doesn't has to sink in oil. Next time you open the oil cap you will have oil spilling out. I don't think they designed it like this.
True. It's confusing. I am sure the oil in the bottom gear reservoir gets distributed using centrifugal force. I'll just have to remember to prop my bike back up before opening the cap. I don't recall it spilling out like you describe on my initial oil change.
@@SESSIONS73 I just noticed today for the first time after my oil change 2 weeks ago that I too had some oil spilling out the overflow tube. It was 25c today and I did go top speed for about 6 kilometers which is a longer than usual going full throttle for me. It has been hotter in the last 2 weeks but I have been riding with minimal top speed those days. I also noticed my top speed is lower by 5-6 kph on a full charge. I get 72-73kph max right now. I checked my oil with the bike level and the oil was leaking out the filler cap as soon as I almost opened it fully. I used 150ml 80w90. I think I am going to try 125ml next time and see how it affects top speed and leakage and go from there.
I usually refer to this video for my oil changes because it’s so thorough. But this time, while adding 150ml, after riding for a bit, some is coming out of the vent tube. Should I consider this an issue?
It can heat and expand. Gritshift sells an add-on that blocks it from happening while protecting it from gunk getting into your vent. There are definitely debates on how much oil to add. You’re just getting spill over. You can try less next time and be fine.
I think you made another mistake🤣 WaAAAaAAy too many people overthinking this. Your gear box is now over full. It holds about 50ml, comes that way from the factory. Probably won't hurt anything except range, and maybe if you tip it it'll be more prone for spilling out. Think of the gear box as a manual transmission or rear diff. They only hold enough oil to "bathe" the gears. Meaning only the lower portion of the gear needs to come in contact with the oil. Otherwise, Its just a waste that causes more friction.
If the oil is supposed to be between the low and high level on the dipstick but with 120ml it pours out of the case that doesn’t make any sense. I think the correct amount is about 90ml which is what comes in a tube stock with the bike.
@@SESSIONS73 really not too surprising lol kind of funny though. I got the same forks as you and had to remove the decals because theenglish was too funny
Sorry for jumping in late but I just changed the factory oil at like 120 miles and it was already pretty grey/dirty so I recommend not going over 180 miles before changing the oil.
@@SESSIONS73 I even emailed gritshift right after watching your video I went riding with then the other week. Asked them if I've been doing it wrong for a year and if I shoukd be worried or if I need to lift the front of my bike and fill the whole gearbox with 150ml. They even told me I've been doing it the right way fill it on level ground and it should take about 90ml, if you lift the front end and put 150ml in there your quite literally filling the whole gearbox and that's just not necessary. I think them putting 150ml in the directions is the gearbox capacity and wasn't really intended to be the amount of oil actually needed in the gearbox. Overfilling a gearbox with oil like I said can cause the oil to foam because you gears are completely submerged in oil they'll make bubbles and air and foam and it'll cause a chemical reaction that heats up not good. The oil should bath the bottom half of the gears and be moved around when in motion to bath them.
Can someone tel me if a error 47 coad would come up,if u ain’t changed gear oil ??as my bike died checked all wires and sensors seems like something ain’t right, it hard to push to and jumps when I turn key on,just waiting for warranty guys to get back to me could anyone help me and advice ? Thanks hope it may be something simple new to electric bikes dropped the controller down and checked all wire there tight Unclipped the sensors nothing changed still error coad 47…
@@SuperChrisssssssss hi mate no the breaker is on it never gets touched in there but have flicked it on and off and checked all sensors on bike still doing it some has said the controller has shorted out…
@@SESSIONS73 the manual clearly has typo’s, it list CL-5 instead of GL-5. You haven’t had any problems filling it like that? I’m an A&P mechanic and have ridden motorcycles for 30 years. Seems like an odd procedure to lift the front to get the oil in.
Dude. EVERYTHING on this bike is metric. 11/16 is why yo stripped your bolt. 11/16 converts to 17.46 mm which is .46 too much to strip your nut. 17mm man. EVERYTHING is metric. It's Chinese. Not Amurrican.
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So, there are two camps when it comes to changing oil in your Talaria. I've made videos on both, so here's a link to the other way: ruclips.net/video/JmdkqrQpbUo/видео.htmlsi=Im7jc5-er6Un-8kC
Nice; love your videos, and I especially appreciate when people can admit that they were wrong. Happens to the best of us!
I like your advice. Just changed mine at 55 miles. Factory only had 60ml in it, I put 90ml back in after raising tire 6 inches.
Now the problem I see is when your check your dipstick with both tires on the ground, oil will come out.!!
That's correct.
Pro tip, any 6 point fastener should be matched with a 6 point socket. The 12 point or similar universal style are for 12 point fasteners. Then you get a solid bite on the flat surfaces and will take max tq - won't strip. 12 pt are like a diesel or high tq type fastener.
Has anyone used Amsoil on an ebike yet? Did phenomenal things to Duramax and even an air compressor. Might up the speed and lower temp 🤔
Thanks for the hot tip!
Just to add to the confusion; I've heard 75-90ml of oil is correct. 150ml is too much and will force oil out of the breather. This seems to be info right from Talaria and other reliable sources GritShift. I carefully measured mine, it came from the factory with 82 ml in it. I did have to tilt the bike to get 82ml back in it. Turns out you were close to right in your first video.
Huh, I want to do a video where I ride with 150ml then reduce it to half and see if that 150ml created a noticeable amount of resistance to effect the range. Maybe when it warms up.
Ya mine spilled all over the ground not taking all the tube, seems like it only took half!!
Yes this makes sense. Oil should not pour out of the case on level ground.
Thanks for the video. You're oil change methods are very efficent!
Glad it helped.
I'm curious if you will get oil leakage through the air pipe under the seat near to the battery. I got oil leakage over there in hot weather. I'm still not convinced if the gears has to be full of oil. As far as I know if gear reaches some oil it is still enough to lubricate the gears. It doesn't has to sink in oil. Next time you open the oil cap you will have oil spilling out. I don't think they designed it like this.
True. It's confusing. I am sure the oil in the bottom gear reservoir gets distributed using centrifugal force. I'll just have to remember to prop my bike back up before opening the cap. I don't recall it spilling out like you describe on my initial oil change.
@@SESSIONS73 I just noticed today for the first time after my oil change 2 weeks ago that I too had some oil spilling out the overflow tube. It was 25c today and I did go top speed for about 6 kilometers which is a longer than usual going full throttle for me. It has been hotter in the last 2 weeks but I have been riding with minimal top speed those days.
I also noticed my top speed is lower by 5-6 kph on a full charge. I get 72-73kph max right now. I checked my oil with the bike level and the oil was leaking out the filler cap as soon as I almost opened it fully. I used 150ml 80w90. I think I am going to try 125ml next time and see how it affects top speed and leakage and go from there.
probably too much gear oil 75-90ml not 150. it blows excess out of the breather. you are absolutely right dipstick would be useless if over filled.
Lifting the front tire is a bad idea. Bad rumor
I appreciate your careful consideration for your source information I'm making the effort in getting a talaria for a daily commute to work and back😊👋
It's a great commuter. Get some mirrors and wear a helmet.
lol you rounded that bad boy.
Straight up
I usually refer to this video for my oil changes because it’s so thorough. But this time, while adding 150ml, after riding for a bit, some is coming out of the vent tube. Should I consider this an issue?
It can heat and expand. Gritshift sells an add-on that blocks it from happening while protecting it from gunk getting into your vent.
There are definitely debates on how much oil to add. You’re just getting spill over. You can try less next time and be fine.
Yes, don't lift the front tire
That’s the correct way to speal effuencancy.
I see nothing wronk.
This video actually helped though, thank you.
It's the message that matters.
Great additional info. Thank you for the update and clarification!
Thanks! Gotta get a group ride in before summer ends
Great job on the follow up video. Most people deny deny deny and insult people in the comments then just Move on.
Thanks! I want to start off on the right foot.
I think you made another mistake🤣 WaAAAaAAy too many people overthinking this. Your gear box is now over full. It holds about 50ml, comes that way from the factory. Probably won't hurt anything except range, and maybe if you tip it it'll be more prone for spilling out. Think of the gear box as a manual transmission or rear diff. They only hold enough oil to "bathe" the gears. Meaning only the lower portion of the gear needs to come in contact with the oil. Otherwise, Its just a waste that causes more friction.
I see what you are saying. I really do. There are definitely 2 camps when it comes to the oil in the Talaria. I will keep doing research on this.
Oregon is correct.
@Daniel Tomczak misprint.
@Daniel Tomczak make sure it touches the dipstick and you’ll be fine.
@Daniel Tomczak how man ml should we put in please
I totally respect you dude 👏👏👏👏 🙌 💯
I appreciate that
If the oil is supposed to be between the low and high level on the dipstick but with 120ml it pours out of the case that doesn’t make any sense. I think the correct amount is about 90ml which is what comes in a tube stock with the bike.
Great video thank you buddy
Glad you enjoyed it
Got from Talaria in Sweden(ATV-Sweden) that it should be 70-90ml how you fill the oil makes no difference.
Agreed. I should probably update the video.
Of course, given the other typos, what if the "1" in "150 ml" is a typo?
Pretty sure it's accurate, because it's 120-150ml
@@SESSIONS73 Dont forget it is a high efficency motor so it could work with less oil say 20-50ml.
It is a typo
@@OregonMotorcycle I didn't see you make a video on this. I watch your stuff quite a bit!
how much does talaria sting cost in usa
Around $4,600 USD
I just got one today costed me $4,685 us I live in Las Vegas
Im getting a sting online for under 2000$
@@rickslater424 Italy 4000
good cambio olo trasmissione
Grazie
Where do you get the manual?My bike didn’t come with one. Also do these bikes come with a title?
They don't come with a title and you can now find the manual online.
Wow i just noticed the typo on the word efficiency on the motor thats funny.
Silly, eh?
@@SESSIONS73 really not too surprising lol kind of funny though. I got the same forks as you and had to remove the decals because theenglish was too funny
We live and learn that’s life
Amen
I was surprised the Talaria (an electric bike) needs oil. Seems ironic. Does the Surron need oil in the gearbox?
The SurRon isn’t gear driven, so nope!
Would you agree that the necessary lift on the bike put the filler rim level with the ground as tilted enough?
There are many varying opinions on this... I still need to do more tests.
Sorry for jumping in late but I just changed the factory oil at like 120 miles and it was already pretty grey/dirty so I recommend not going over 180 miles before changing the oil.
Just put in same amount taken out
Thanks for the info! Definitely need to do this on mine.
It’s a quick and easy thing to do.
hows the battery life when putting around, going slow, and taking your time?
It’s awesome. Feels like it goes forever
but how did you get 150 out if you didn't put it in when you changed it last time?
I didn’t. I only got about 50.
Would it matter if you put 75w90 full synthetic in there?
Only if you ride in the winter 75 is thinner in cold vs 85
Over filling a gearbox will cause it to start to foam and cause a chemical reaction that heats up. Not good.
Yeah, it has a release valve. So far, no problems with the recommended amount.
@@SESSIONS73 I even emailed gritshift right after watching your video I went riding with then the other week. Asked them if I've been doing it wrong for a year and if I shoukd be worried or if I need to lift the front of my bike and fill the whole gearbox with 150ml. They even told me I've been doing it the right way fill it on level ground and it should take about 90ml, if you lift the front end and put 150ml in there your quite literally filling the whole gearbox and that's just not necessary. I think them putting 150ml in the directions is the gearbox capacity and wasn't really intended to be the amount of oil actually needed in the gearbox. Overfilling a gearbox with oil like I said can cause the oil to foam because you gears are completely submerged in oil they'll make bubbles and air and foam and it'll cause a chemical reaction that heats up not good. The oil should bath the bottom half of the gears and be moved around when in motion to bath them.
Get an old Aquarius bottle to fill her back up
Good tip!
A turkey baster will fill the oil much faster
Agreed
Buy the oil here: gritshift.com/collections/vendors?q=Silkolene&ref=9
Should've mentioned you need a massive breaker bar to open it the first time.. struggled for an hour trying to do it... Thanks....
Yeah, it's a nightmare. I just bought a breaker bar.
OMG they want 29.89usd for your oil, normal price is like 6,37usd :D
Yeah... Oil...
Can someone tel me if a error 47 coad would come up,if u ain’t changed gear oil ??as my bike died checked all wires and sensors seems like something ain’t right, it hard to push to and jumps when I turn key on,just waiting for warranty guys to get back to me could anyone help me and advice ? Thanks hope it may be something simple new to electric bikes dropped the controller down and checked all wire there tight Unclipped the sensors nothing changed still error coad 47…
Have you flipped the breaker?
If the headlight flickers when you turn it on the breaker is off
Also, the 'on' and 'off' labels on the breaker are both on the same side making it easy to have off on accident.
@@SESSIONS73 yes mate checked all the sensors and wires everything been checked no good…
@@SuperChrisssssssss hi mate no the breaker is on it never gets touched in there but have flicked it on and off and checked all sensors on bike still doing it some has said the controller has shorted out…
Just wondering why are you shaking so much
I never thought you'd ask.
@@SESSIONS73 thanks for the help with the oil change and I love your content😁
You still think this is the way? I’m hearing 80-10ml
Yeah, I’m beginning to think that taking advice from strangers on the internet isn’t the way.
@@SESSIONS73 the manual clearly has typo’s, it list CL-5 instead of GL-5. You haven’t had any problems filling it like that? I’m an A&P mechanic and have ridden motorcycles for 30 years. Seems like an odd procedure to lift the front to get the oil in.
Mate buy correct tools funnels, right tools for right got
Ok. got
Sorry, but that was unforgivable!
Just kidding
Some sure acted like it was.
Never going to get all the oil it's on the gears
Can you clarify?
@@SESSIONS73 changing gear oil,gear oil is thick and sticky so you never get it all out , thanks for the video. I want the new Segway r $$$$$$$$
Dude. EVERYTHING on this bike is metric. 11/16 is why yo stripped your bolt. 11/16 converts to 17.46 mm which is .46 too much to strip your nut. 17mm man. EVERYTHING is metric. It's Chinese. Not Amurrican.
Thats pretty bad gearbox design, lot of work to change the oil properly
Kind of a pain. True.
Not a good video this time. Dont rsise the front wheel
Dang, I need to update my video.
Using vice grips and pipe wrenches on your oil plug is so stupid you need to buy yourself a nice set of tools B4 u ruin that bike completely
Wanna give me a Super Thanks so I can? That'd be awesome.