Parkland Shooter Trial: State, Defense Spar Over Motion to Allow Evidence of Swastika, Racial Slurs
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2022
- The defense and state argued the prosecution's motion to allow evidence of swastikas etched on the Parkland school shooter's gun, shoes, backpack, and his social media that contained racial slurs. Judge Elizabeth Scherer said she will issue a written order Tuesday.
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For someone who pled guilty, this trial is taking too long.
Its a death penalty trial. He's already guilty, this is to decide whether he'll get life in prison, or death.
This isn’t a trial. This is a sentencing phase.
@@ZennaD It is a Trial, a trial to determine whether he'll get life or death
@@RyanPhoenixAZ it is the sentencing phase. There was no trial because he pled guilty.
@@ZennaD It's a sentencing trial with a jury, evidence, depositions, witness testimony, etc... It's a trial whether you like it or not
If the evidence is "overly prejudicial" it's because there is a lot of ugly stuff! That's on him! F outta here with that BS!
He DREW IT!!!.... TOo bad that it goes against this narrative defense trying to sell!
The nazi swastika’s , the hate writing, the violent drawings are all the sums of the defendant which make him whole. They illustrate a very clear & concise picture of exactly who the defendant is.
His attorney in the opening statement said they will not hide anything n will reveal everything to the jury. But in reality they want to hide a lot of things. I still remember b4 the trial started they even make a motion to block the family from giving impact statements in court. So BS
Seriously! It's like, "nah we can't show that stuff he drew, it makes him look like a monster.".....oh you mean the swaztikas make the guy who murdered 17 children look bad? the F outta hea!
It's funny how the defense says, "it's only 400 searches" at one point and later says the state needs to tell them specifically what will be admitted because it's, "over 400 searches".
Oh my. this trial has melted down into a hot mess.
bad judge
The defense is disrespectful , but the judge needs to be firm and RUN the courtroom
@@luvsdizners how so?
@Fallen One ...sounds ominous. What did you have in mind?
It's a show trial. Going on for weeks, and they aren't even wrapping things up yet. Just let the jury deliberate, execute the guy already, and let society move on.
It sounds like the defense is trying to censor the evidence.
Exactly
So now people understand why the judge was acting how she was. Defense is just trolling at this point
Anyone else feel like the defense attorney just keeps spinning her verbal wheels around and around without ever making a clear point? I’m glad I’m not the judge - I’d be hard pressed to stop rolling my eyes or keeping my eyebrow from twitching…
In their defense they are public defenders. Just having that many lawyers on a team for the length of this trial is probably a significant amount of their funding. This is like having a JV highschool baseball team in an MLB game. They're gonna look silly.
@@dannibble well said, thanks.
Honestly, I'm getting lost in all the legal-speak. Basically I think that the defense is pulling stuff out of her back pocket just to be a pain in the judge's back pocket, but she seems to be walking a fine line. That's my sense of it.
@@dannibble true,TY..no one chose to be there.. BUT, imo,they've proved he wes born ill, his bio mom was on drugs..etc.ok.job is done..let jury decide..& THAT'S all possibly a big chunk of Explanation,but no way is it not a morsel
towards AN EXCUSE. THE JURY SAW where DEATH happened, photos of DEAD CHILDREN,video of TEACHERS being killed,parents& families stories,pain,autopsy pics..IS A swastika gonna change anyone's feelings?? Cmon now..
She kind of gets on my nerves as she uses too many words for basic issues. She also doesn’t really know what she is doing.
Defense keeps delaying the trial
the judger is nob for leting this hapen!! pls remove judger!!!
@@SoyAntonioGaming Are you a gamer or a lawyer/ legal expert?
The defense keeps giving the judge trouble
@@SoyAntonioGaming The defense already filed a motion to remove the judge...
The judge is doing nothing wrong. The defense team is purposely going for a mistrial, and if that does not succeed, the motion will be used for appeal.
@@SoyAntonioGaming judger is nob
Luke Hoyer's father... he is always there looking sad yet with strong will to see through this trial. Breaks my heart.
It’s heartbreaking. These parents, children & innocent adults never had a shot at a trial for their death penalty.
Judge all butthurt because Nicolas Cruz is not that into her. Hilarious!
He has been at every single day thus far. 😭
@@beckydoesit9331 did you not get enough of a reaction the first time you wrote this? Get lost, weird troll. 🙄
@@beckydoesit9331 derp
This judge is really amazing. I would have lost control by now anybody would have. She's got nerves of steel. I really admire this lady. Way to go judge
Judge all butthurt because Nicolas Cruz is not that into her. Hilarious!
@@beckydoesit9331 you make no sense whatsoever
@@beckydoesit9331 are you re-todd-did?
That blond defense lawyer seems to hate the judge n is fuming all the time
She looks sooo angry and is gonna have a heart attack. Look at the anger on her face
I think it was stated in an earlier video that the judge and that particular public defender have had bad interactions over the years.
Uhhhh that's called, a woman
@@SingleMaltBuckeye sir, I believe you dropped your fedora and neckbeard.
Well judge did deny her being dismissed from the case , than she demanded a mistrial
Am I the only one who has to turn their volume all the way up just to hear them? It's almost impossible to hear them!
This channel is known for low volume, it really is annoying.
@@blessingsoflightvaleriew.7054 I think its just this specific court room because every video of this trial is hard to hear unless they're a witness
I'm using the volume boost feature of the browser extension RUclips Enhancer. *Still* not loud enough but a little better.
Same. I've got the phone and TV inches from myself and I'm still straining to hear.
I have my tv volume at its highest level and can barely hear the lawyers!
welcome to youtube :)
Anymore than one search of that is disgusting enough, but over 400 searches and the defense wants say it is not indicative of a PATTERN? What planet is this defense lawyer on?
Judge all butthurt because Nicolas Cruz is not that into her. Hilarious!
@@beckydoesit9331 or is it because he’s not into you ?
I believe it’s because the pattern has to go against his mental health and in this case it doesn’t, 400 searches can be done in one week, but the defense is strictly claiming mental illness so the state has to have evidence that he has had that same pattern of hatred through out his entire life
@@beckydoesit9331 - Cruz looks like the embodiment of the word, "queef."
Use of mics would be really helpful.
Speechless, don't think I've ever heard of questioning a judge. Don't they give any consideration for the families of those pure innocent souls that Cruz gunned down, having to sit and listen to the defense team. Deplorable,
It’s the legal and ethical obligation of the defense to defend their client. Period. Whatever angle they can come from to try and save the actual life of their client, they should do so.
Happens every day.
Judge all butthurt because Nicolas Cruz is not that into her. Hilarious!
deplorable, is the Judge, for showing clear bias toward the prosecution!
@@beckydoesit9331 - All of Cruz's relationships lasted 3 minutes and he had to pay them for an hour's work.
I think the Judge is Brilliant in every respect
The documents were admitted because you asked for them to be you don't like what is in them don't ask for them to be admitted.
All the parents are saying in their heads, " I want my child back! "
This is beyond parody. And 17 people are still dead.
It really is soul crushing and infuriating to realize how much of a joke and facade our legal system is. We've strayed so far from any sense of reality and pretty much just focus on semantics, yellow tape and the desire for a legal team not to lose a case. And these people take themselves seriously, like they actually uphold justice. It really is heartbreaking. This man murdered 17 children and this is what they're talking about?!
Yea well if we abolished the death penalty which should be done regardless, none of this crap would even be necessary.
I know. It's infuriating, pathetic and shameful.
completely agree
And getting very expensive
We need more death penalty, not less. Especially in cases like this where there is no question who is guilty.
Everytime that woman from the Defense stands up the first thing I think is oh god here we go
The defense in this trial is ridiculous they do everything they can to undermine the judges Authority I think this judge is been there has been very patient and this defense has no grounds for an acquittal whatsoever I think they actually owe the judge an apology for the delay
I agree
They are doing their job and the judge should stop trying to help the state in their work
@@Elleffe - As if the state really needs to do anything at this point lol.
@@nicovalentine5353 the state has an obligation to grant a fair trial to anyone, it’s one of the tenets of a democratic country
@@Elleffe - * eyeroll * Yeah, I get that, what I'm saying is that since the evidence is so damning the state doesn't need help at this point.
Sad thing is even if the jury gives him the death penalty, it’ll be 20+ years of appeals and pleas for clemency. And that’s if Florida doesn’t later abolish capital punishment and commute all death penalty sentences to life.
Florida is too conservative and too dysfunctional to abolish the death penalty.
Exactly and if you have heard of Charles Ng case which happened decades ago he’s never been declared to death til this day
Correction: He’s been declared to death but has appealed and fired his defense throughout the time til this day and is still alive in Prison.
Sry for the long answer but lastly I wanted to say that if u look him up if u didn’t know of him. Be prepared for very disturbing stuff even worse than Cruz believe it or not.
According to the notes he’s made during this trial, he actually wants the death penalty after all… I don’t see him appealing it.
The victims that were slaughtered and the families of those that were murdered, should be horrified by the way the defense team has performed in this matter. Those attorney's owe the families a public apology. They should be sanctioned and disbarred.
Exactly what have they done wrong?
Is this still happening, put this guy down and move on; the families will thank you.
It’s been almost 5 yrs
they should set him free he wont do it agen. he learnt his leson
Yeah in this case they should just end this dude and move on, there’s no way he will ever be a productive member of society
@@SoyAntonioGaming Do u actually believe that?!?!
@@SoyAntonioGaming I mean I dont know what he would do but letting a mass murderer who killed 17 innocent people free??
can’t believe they’re still talking about the drawings. just sentence this killer forever in a box by himself
That's my thought. Why go through all of this and spend all this money to try for a death sentence? It's proven that death sentences are more expensive than life sentences. Just lock him up and let him live with his crime.
He is entitled to representation. This is not to decide whether or not he is guilty, it’s to decide whether or not he will get the death penalty so it’s very important that nothing is overlooked in this phase of the proceedings. His life is on the line, and that is a pretty big deal regardless of his crimes. You are entitled to your opinion, but these proceedings are important to the credibility of our justice system. We cannot stoop to his level and take the life of another human being just to exact our personal sense of justice. He must be judged by his peers in accordance with the law.
Also, lots of time and money has already gone into this case and obviously, no one wants a mistrial.
Trust that the jury will make the right decision. That’s all we really can do.
@@diznyland6214 i guess.
Does the justice system have any credibility?
@@diznyland6214 -🤓
“Only 430 of them contained these references”. Oh brother
When the leader (judge) is bewildered, the whole courtroom is bewildered...
The defense attorney's constant mispronunciation of "voir dire" makes me wonder how many cereal box tops she had to send in to get her law degree.
One.
Don’t be so condescending, those elite children don’t even have to pass their entrance into elite universities daddies or mummies just make a big donation.
Oh the shade😎😎😎
😂😂😂😂😂
@@H_A_L_7 I hope you're kidding. People born into poverty become public defenders because they need the government to pay for the 100k in money they owe for their law degree
the defense lawyers are so unprofessional, I have never seen in my professional life before, they are rude and arrogant to the judge, turn up late to annoy her and the jury and take their headphones of, this judge is dealing with a bunch of losers! Poor families!!!!
"Overly prejudicial". How can it be '"overly"? It's things he's actually done; swastikas he's actually drawn? I don't get it
Exactly. Wish I understood how this is even possible to withhold information from the jury. They also tried to prevent the jury from going to the crime scene because they thought it would be overly prejudicial. Insanity.
" overly prejudicial " meaning it goes against their narrative
That's just their way of saying they don't like how things are going.
The volume of this entire "trial" is so low you can barely hear what is being said. I have great speakers on full blast and still hard to hear. The guy is guilty, death penalty, expedient the sentence.
This Defense Team has not liked anything in this Case since the beginning starting with the Jurors getting to visit the School Crime Scene where Jurors got to see blood stains that wasn't cleaned up ( the scene has been protected) to the charges and it will continue on even after this trial. I'm glad the Judge did not recuse herself and I'm sure their will be appeals by the Defense for it to be looked into. Defense has to do everything they can even if their client admitted to both this Mass Murder Of The 17 School Kids and 3 Adults and the wounding of those that survived his heinous attack. Prayers to the Families of those 17 and the 3 Adults and to those wounded and to those other students and friends and loved ones of those deceased by the hands and decision of Nicholas Cruz. Maybe this Defense Team needs to look into (1) person on their Team and see how she acted and performed throughout this trial; she was very demeaning to Prosecution and the Judge and the Victims in the gallery. She is a very poor loser and enjoys blaming others for her lack of professionalism. Defense got caught opening a door, they pulled that stunt and caught in what they wanted so now the Prosecution has a right to use that opening.
And didn't they try to pull out of representing him at least once.
Actually that building was preserved because of the trial
@@Stryyder1 the blonde lawyer did at first day ..judge denied on motion she had plenty of time to do so before trial began
I bet everyone involved is wishing there had been some sort of time limit set for each side. Maybe they can’t do that for this type of proceeding.
No trial has a time limit. Especially not a death penalty case with 40+ victims.
There is no time limit on criminal cases. There are time limits on civil cases though.
@@ampere11 Thank God for that or the Depp v. Heard case would still be going on 😂.
@@karamiddleton2920 I beg to differ. JD's trial judge set the number of hours each side had and they got a tally of how much time they had left EVERY day.
He’s plainly guilty, what a waste of time and resources.
“Only 400” searches is not a problem for her because those symbols don’t represent hate toward her.
Shut up 🙄
Yeah that is obsession and a big red flag
How can this trial possibly go on for long?
Probably because its a death penalty case. Hes already guilty, but this is the trial to decide death penalty or life in prison. Its not a quick process, unfortunately.
@@SassyArmyGirl101 number of victims and death penalty
Due process.
@@malcriadamedina5358 is this going be the first scool shooter to recieve death penalty? the rest were killed or shot themselves right?
Anyone old enough to remember the OJ Simpson case? How long did that go on for? Roughly 9 months or so?
Wow. I'm glad he is getting the representation he so deserves.
I do too! They are court appointed defense attorneys. Get whatcha pay for! 😉🤣
😂He got them from Amber Heard
well guys is called america...where the most heinous among us gets a trial not just shown in jail...but if is not your cup of tea...maybe Russia or china is more your speed..
Nah. The way I see it is the Judge all butthurt because Nicolas Cruz is not that into her. Hilarious!
@@beckydoesit9331 ah yes, the beautiful, wealthy, young, accomplished judge of a court is very hurt that the chinless prisoner being tried for the death penalty isn't "in to her", I'm sure.
There should be a limit on how long sentencing process can be.
Why is the volume so low?? I got my speakers way up!
These People Have Been Through Enough, My Lord! It's Sad They Have To Hear All This Mess And Sit Through It All Just To Receive Justice! Ughhh 😡
What kinda caps lock makes only the first letter of each word capitalized like its a really long title?..
I'm confused as to why cruz has so many attorneys. Is it ordered by the judge?
But they are being selective in what's being admitted. She says that she wants the jury to "see everything" but want the judge to eliminate anything that shows who their client really is. 🤦♀️
"Only 400 social media posts contain hate speech" 2 minutes later... "Are they going to use all 400 social media posts" implying it's so much work.
I'd only wish that I could keep it together as well as the judge or I'd go all out on his lawyers.
"If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough" Albert Einstein
20:55 - officer dosing off in the background
Reminds of Seinfeld when they give bank guard a rocking chair.
🤫🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I agree with the judge who earlier said the swastikas, as bad as they are, aren’t anything next to what he did
As long as you and I pay these lawyers, they will milk it!
Saying she would move to a mistrial was a threat. Because the judge hadn't even ruled. That defense is so bad. They should have just begged to have his life spared in a plea.
Have they only got 1 microphone on at the judges bench??? The audio on all these clips seems to be "Potato 1000". Turn it up enough to hear a lawyer and get deafened by some notification chime on my PC.
Court room just seems like a circus 🎪 full of clowns
You really need to fix the sound in these videos. The ads will bust your eardrums but you can barely hear the state and the defense. Thanks.
I get this is just a trial on whether Nikolas Cruz receives the death sentence or life in jail... But my God it's mind blowing how unprofessional the defense has been, which in turn is messing up the states side and here we are. To see the families sit there day in and day out and watch this animosity... It's infuriating to me and I'm sure many feel the same.
Why is the lad trying to cover up his 'real' feelings? Why isn't he man enough to own up to them? (Er, down to them)
Well he did plead guilty....he should've told his lawyers to NOT fight everything but try to make it look as if his isolation pushed him ..least they wouldn't be a laughing stick
Waste of time
I’d guess the jury has already made up their mind.
I thought that the defense had ended their filed arguments!! WTH IS GOING ON????
Defense: “If we don’t get our way we will request a mistrial…every time.”
Is this the jones trial or for the shooter?
I thought I saw this part until I saw the defense wearing something else instead of pink/ yellow
Why would they want to hide that?
I just don’t understand what good would it make to give him life while all those 17 poor people are dead?!
And those 17 injured who are forever scarred and changed
The "defense" quit on Thursday. This public pretender needs to sit down. She QUIT on Thursday. Wow.
This video is from a prior day, right before the middle school witnesses testified.
THIS TRIAL CAN NOT BE HEARD AS THE VOLUME IS VERY LOW. DOESN'T ANYONE FROM LAW & CRIME CHECK THE VOLUME OF THE SOUND???
Wow I swear this defense never wants another case it’s like they’re wearing a neon sign
SHE IS SENDING ME
F..k sake put him to jail already this is seriously tedious
He deserves the death penalty regardless of his mental deficiencies and upbringing. Which was an asinine reasoning, brought up by the defense considering there’s people with severe mental issues and they don’t go committing mass murder. There’s people on death row that have done far less damage then this monster has.
I think you mean sentence him to death or life in prison? He is already in jail
He’s already in jail
@E Boston what?
The defense should have Olympic medals in dodge ball. They are annoying AF
Just so people understand, this is NOT a trial of guilt. This is presenting evidence to the jury for the defense wanting life in prison and the state wanting death penalty. In order for the death penalty, it MUST be a unanimous decision for everyone in the jury. If one juror says otherwise, it'll be life in prison
I feel really bad for the families.
This judge is the worst I have seen, she lacks power of authority to take control of her own court room.
ONLY 430 of the searches…..
So this is just a sentencing trial correct? What's the best outcome for the defense, Life w/o Parole?
Why is his attorney wasting time. He said he was guilty. Who is paying for all of this? This is horrible!! They want a new trail! For what!!! This is shameful 😮
I compare this to a dentist trying to polish teeth that are rotten, infected, and decayed.
Yes, he is guilty. However, the law is written that the penalty for his guilt is in the hands of the jury. Is it expensive? Yes. But that does not mean we throw out the laws and our constitution because we want revenge and have decided our wallets are more important . Let’s be better humans than him and not sink to his
Level. If we are going to kill someone knowingly and with premeditation, then let’s just make sure it’s legal first. Just because he is what he is, that doesn’t mean we become animals.
chillax she got a mortgage too
Mistrial gets an appeal, appeal gets a new judge therefore they can play their game again n hoped a judge will restrict what's included as evidence pushing jurors to not see him as the monster he is just some "woe is me " kid and he gets life and they win their case
Taxes are paying for it. On average, death sentence cases end up costing about 50% more than life without or even with parole by the time it’s said and done lol. If Florida didn’t have capital punishment we wouldn’t be going through the sentencing trial like this most likely.
This defense team has been combative, hostile, condescending and rude to the judge and should have been sanctioned long before the sentencing phase.
Yup judge warned her of sanctions when mcneil started making threats in jury selection.i think judge is holding back though cause if she does now it is a lose lose situation. Either she gets called bias or he gets a mistrial on how bad his council are
This judge needs a vacation after this trial after dealing with the defense lawyers
How hard is it to prepare a guilty plea ?
😆 he already did it.
This is PENALTY not a trial
Why can I clearly hear the state, but not the defense team?
I don't understand why the defense should be able to object to information or evidence being presented to the jury on the basis of the fact that it is overly prejudicial......aren't you in essence just saying we object to this evidence because it makes our client, who already pleaded guilty look VERY guilty???? That's ridiculous...... Why is objection on the basis of the evidence being overly prejudicial even allowed.....As far as the Department of Education records containing swastikas are concerned, I think the defense is being disingenuous when they claim that they made a rushed decision to admit all of the records because they thought it would be better to admit all of the records in the absence of a pretrial ruling on the swastikas than to mislead the jury.......The main agenda of the defense was to mislead the jury because they were essentially asking in that pretrial motion that the evidence be tampered with altered and redacted so as to not show the swastikas which were originally present in some of the documents.......How is asking for this to be done not misleading the jury??? Judge Scherer denied the defense's request to omit the swastikas because the swastikas were no more inflammatory than the N words written on the documents or the misogynistic language against women.....The judge was confused as to why the defense was only concerned about the impact the swastikas would have on the jury and not the other symbols of hatred......which is a fair point.......The defense knew that swastikas were present on the defendants gun, backpack and other materials and COULD HAVE questioned perspective jurors about attitudes regarding this symbol but chose NOT to do so......It is baffling to me that the defense would submit evidence that would be prejudicial to their own client and then complain that the judge didn't alter it to make it less prejudicial...........If you are concerned about the evidence inflaming the jury against your client why advocate for that evidence to be used in any part of your case, even on a limited basis.......
Serious question. Why, at this point, should he be kept alive?
Sorry but the only people who are not against Swastikas are those who are Fascists. That would exempt most people from being a juror.
It's a part of history and denying it denies history ..and the fact that he did shoot a Holocaust Studies class
Isn't the defense here also the state/public defender? Since the defendant cannot afford to hire a private firm...
This trail is taking way way way too long.
Uhm are we forgetting that he took the lives of 17 people, traumatized and affected how many others? He pleaded guilty -what on earth are we waiting for? Of course his upbringing was less than ideal, but you can’t tell me that he didn’t and doesn’t know the different between right and wrong. He knew what he was doing, he even recorded himself premeditating the shooting.
Also, weed does not make you kill people 🤦🏼♀️
17 other students were injured
He also tried to fake insanity under the pretence of escaping incarceration, assaulted an officer while in custody and made the world's worst apology that didn't actually apologize for much.
@@aliciacoble7854 and 2 others, not long after, took their own lives from the trauma of it all and survivors guilt 😪
This defense lady is so rediculous!
I mean that!
Did the defence team read somewhere that they need to neaten their hair, as it seems they have taken it to heart, for the 1st day in this whole trial.
Has Nicolas ever heard of a comb?
The last brush he had was with the law.
The defense is annoying. The judge is awesome
I cannot see why this is such a mess. He plead guilty and personally I think he should pay the ultimate price for this.
Grrrrr. Why broadcast this when you can't hear what is being said?
I'm beyond being frustrated with the defense making this harder than it needs to be
garbled audio and no closed caption
This woman actually just said, ONLY 430.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Redhead is right. Defence disingenuous at best. 😳😒
That lawyer is making me 🥱 they just need to keep it moving he murdered so many innocent people good judge she’s so over it as well
Why soooo many Lawyers?
Because it's a very important and complicated case
Death penalty cases are required to have more than 1 lawyer.
She’s tried from the start to get a mistrial this is just pathetic
This is insane the defense sound completely uneducated
Feel like im watching the O.J. trial!!!...