The White Lotus - Season 2 Finale Review - One of the Best Shows of 2022
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2022
- My review for the season 2 finale of 'The White Lotus'.
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i love how Daphne didnt let anything ruin her vacation
She is not a victim. What an icon
I was waiting for something to break her and she said nope. I just wonder how sustainable that is
@@looney1023 I bloody loved her!!!
In the end, Daphne was the most sensible and rational one during this entire vacation.
She was the most delusional really but that saves a bad marriage
I think the eerie FaceTime call was because he knows that’s not his son. Cameron knows about the trainer
Yes I think he knows but couldn’t ever confront her because his hands are dirty as well. They are an extremely evasive couple.
Possibly. Or maybe he was just getting over almost being drowned.
I think it shows he doesn’t want the mundane life and he’s disconnected from his family. It’s all smoke and mirrors
@@Lulu-kt6gr Nah. The intense hate and discomforts displayed showed he knows
I agree that it was about the kids not being his
I loved it! Somehow he wrapped up all of the strings without a single predictable bend. There were no last-minute revelations: for instance I would’ve cringed if Quentin had uttered, with blood falling out of his mouth, “Greg loved me” or some such cliche.
And Daphne’s philosophy
“just do what you can to not feel like a victim” worked so well for her that it almost makes you re-think the meaning of revenge: she has children with her lover so she can continue loving her philandering husband, and she has sex with Ethan, to even the score so she can keep her dignity and feel good about staying with her husband. She evens the score and then moves on…such an interesting character to me. She says
“You don’t have to know everything to love someone.” And she means it.
Mike White has some genius in him while he’s writing these scripts.
Long live White Lotus!
Thank you for articulating my thoughts for me on Daphnes character! I always get tongue (brain?) tied on why I love some characters in the end because its so hard to get out while going through every single little thing with them and why they’re so interesting.
I think that point when Cameron was looking in mirror, not wanting to talk to “his kids”, I think he actually knows or suspects that those aren’t his kids
Thanks for bringing this up! I didn’t make the connection when I originally watched this scene. Makes a lot of sense now. Thanks!
Or he just finds kids laborious.
I thought Cameron’s floss scene was a hint that he thinks those are not his kids. A few episodes earlier Daphne shows a picture of her “trainer” but it was just a picture of her kids. Cameron is putting up a front to keep the “family” intact.
Good catch!
Oh yes, that picture was all but a spoken confession of her cheating with the trainer.
Yes I agree. I haven’t heard one reviewer point that out (the kids pic) and it was so obvious.
@@nadagabri5783 right! The kids both had blonde hair.
Wow…I missed the connection in that scene. Thanks for mentioning this!
Excellent analysis of Cameron (floss scene), no one caught that he is a diabolical narcissist that puts on a charming charismatic act for the world including his wife and kids.
Everyone... and I mean everyone... in the cast is just so right on point without ever feeling laborious. Genius casting. Finding the right person for their role and let them roam.
It was a great cast, but in the end the writing and directing was let this season down for me, Imo
I love that Tanya was the one to bite the dust. I thought for sure that two of the bodies would be Mia and Lucia, which would've been predictable. Killing off Tanya, a recurring character, was far more ballsy and unexpected.
I dug this much more than Season 1. Season 1 was a little too broad for me.
I knew it would be Tanya but I thought she would be murdered. The finding of other bodies threw me off. I was worried it would be Portia. Glad she was spared.
I'm glad she didn't go down without a fight. Her husband most likely won't get the money now either because of the evidence she left.
I also thought early on that two of the bodies would be Lucia and Mia. I think season 1 was really focused on wealth imbalances. This season obviously still has that but it also seemed to be heavily focused on infidelity as a whole. Obviously all of the assumed and confirmed cheating between Harper, Ethan, Cameron, and Daphne. Also Tanya’s husband cheating on her and then she cheating on him. The dad cheating on his wife back in LA and his father’s history of infidelity. Not really cheating but the felt betrayal between Portia and the kid? (I’m so sorry those three men were so ick I can’t remember their names honestly😂). All to say: if Lucia and Mia had died I think it would have aligned the season much more with the overarching theme of season 1. Those two living and surviving was like the underdogs’ closure that we needed from season 1.
Hbo does not miss when it comes to there Sunday night shows
They really don’t lol and this was total original idea I’m so glad they give these people chances..same with Barry !! Original idea I love it
I loved the way Tanya was giving advices to Portia. Tanya showed concern about her assistant
Boy was this a good show. I’m late to the party but binged both seasons in 2 days. I thought season 1 was good, but season 2 took it to the next level. My mind is still blown watching the finale! I think this has to be the best series of 2022.
Same I binged it all day for 2 days straight. It was definitely my favorite watch of 2022. Great actors/characters, great scenery, great script, and an amazing story.
I don’t think Greg ever went by Steve, Quentin just came up with the name off the top of his head when Tanya addressed the photo. 🤓
I mean, we don't know. That could be his actual name. Greg was married 5 times including Tanya and we have no idea how he misled his ex wives or what happened to any of them.
@@SB-se7vb FIVE times? I thought it was four! Waah Waah Waah!
Or Steve never went by the name Greg. ;)
We really enjoyed this season as well. Kept us guessing, that's for sure. Can't decided which season I liked more.
It’s so Agatha Christie for this century!
Yes sir. Portia's storyline was amazing. All the storylines were amazing. In the immortal words of Magneto, "Never trust a beautiful wo[man]..." The two final episodes are two of the finest hours of entertainment I've ever experienced.
I wasn't satisfied with the ending; like I personally don't like how they killed her. Like it is very Tanya to die that way but still ungratifying for me. She could of walked down the back stairs of the yacht and swam to the boat. And also ... F GREG!!! lol But still overall even if i didn't like the last 10 mins the show was amazing overall
They couldn't have her shoot most the bad guys then boat into town like she's 007. But damn does this mean Greg gets all the money? And if so, does the mafia go after him for a cut?
@@tjk3430 The thing i didn't understand is why would the mafia guy sleep with her; just kill her in ep 6 when she was on blow. man i'd hope so
“I think as far as what happens to Greg and the conspiracy of Tanya’s death, it’s possible that I think Portia is scared enough to just leave it alone, but the fact that all of those guys die on the boat, it feels like there’s gotta be somebody who’s gonna track it down to Greg,” he said. “But maybe you’ll have to wait to find out what happens.”
@@jlea yeah at least 4 people alive who know about the conspiracy. The guy who stayed behind, the guy who jumped off the boat, the nephew & Greg. That's a lot considering there were likely others who were potentially mob related. Portia kind of knows but not to the same extent.
I would have liked to see a reaction from Greg at least before the last scene
I loved this show. Grieved badly for Tanya.
RIP Tanya
She went out in a blaze of glory!! 💥🔫
I hope Jennifer Coolidge is brought back in Season 3!! Maybe it can be retrospective! I’d love to see more of her life!!
I've met Cameron in real life meaning that personality a sociopath.
I was married to him!
@@KissMyBiscuits lol 😆 we weren't married but 7 years and so hot but totally shallow... all appearances.
I know I’m so late to this but I LOVE this series! I especially enjoyed season 2. I think you’re spot on when you equate it to reading a really good book. I totally agree that’s how it felt!
I thought the storyline with Portia and the nephew was SO deliciously creepy! I felt every bit of her fear when things started to turn for her. All the little red flags that were popping up. I wouldn’t have been caught dead in a car with that guy! Such a good show!
This season was 100 times better then the last. And the last one was fantastic
I enjoyed that season one and two behaved differently from one another, which is a good sign for the health of the upcoming season three in the Maldives. Also, Mike White has been primarily known as a writer for the last 25 years, and this is his greatest stab at direction thus far.
That finale felt & was unsatisfactory to me. I am so mad bc I read an article promising Jennifer Coolidge wld be in Season 3 and now what? She is going to come back as a ghost?! And then what, Greg wins the money in the end bc Tanya ends up dead anyway... Idk too many loose ends. Felt like it went so slow and then, boom done! Metaphorically, I compare it to just like how men r in bed, lol... Also, who knew that Daphne and Ethan wld fuck and make everything all better?!
How great would a prequel be? Set in the 90s or something
It was the old switch and bait. They knew she was not coming back, they just wanted to shock the world. And yes they did.
@@patrickk6331 Welp, I fell for it hook, line, & sinker! (Pun intended 😀)
Great commentary and review! Agree on all your points. I love this season… way more than s1. The acting is topnotch. Bravo to the casting. Theo and Meghan stood out for me. Jennifer the queen is an icon 👏🏼👏🏼
Great content man, I'm a fan. Always eloquent, concise with great insight.
Love how all the different subplots were so good, and they seamlessly moved between each of them. I was never board, and I liked how you got just the right amount of each sub story before they moved to the next one. Season 1 was similar, although I wasn’t as into some of the subplots, whereas in season 2, I loved all of the subplots.
Great cinematography,the background soundtrack was so charming,I liked the volcano scene,so suitable
Guess I got something else to add to my Crave subscription. Love your take! I might have asked a couple of times already but do you still have any interest in watching or covering Gangs of London Season 2?
You also make extremely great points regarding writing room’s. I definitely feel they contribute to watering down and creating subpar, less engaging stories for sure.
I wonder if this means Greg (Uncle Rico lol ) now rich, will be visiting a White Lotus next season.
White Lotus Season 2 is much better than season 1 with complicated characters but the biggest scammers are the Italian girls
I have to think Greg turned out to be the big winner.
Tanya got herself dead but not before she took out the other conspirators therefore negating the pre-nup and leaving everything to him
I waited to binge this show. Almost didn't watch it until I saw your review. So glad I did. Thank you.
Why would Portia confront him with her allegations? She could have taken a cab to the hotel or straight to airport if she was terrified for her safety.
she can’t afford a cab remember & if she went to the hotel she’d be dead too
He told her that she couldn't afford a cab when she said she was going to take one after talking to Tanya, but why didn't she have ANY money?
This season is even better than the first!!!!! Too bad Jennifer Coolidge was written out of the series...
I really hope that the cast is completely different next season, I don't want to see Tanya come back again! The creator of suggested that he would be like to bring back her character, I would just leave it here and start fresh with that suggested Asia based story.
Agree with all except the lack of writers rooms. That’s why Euphoria season 2 is a mess. I think we should stick to a few
A throwback to “Dynasty” in the 80’s.
Awesome show..appreciate your breakdown and analysis.
Man It was so frustrating to watch Tonya attempt to get down to the dinghy boat below over the side railing!
There were small steps down just to her right at rear of the yacht!!
Why would the writer make her ‘smart enough’ to figure out the murder plot against her, but also make her ‘stupid enough’ not to know there’s steps down to yachts rear deck platform?
Clearly she must’ve seen or known that’s how her assassin guy got onboard and up onto upper deck?
This was the only gripe I had about the writing. Otherwise brilliant show!
That's Tanya for you. Also, adrenaline was coasting through her body at that point (as well as more wine), so it was way likelier that she wouldn't be thinking clearly or calmly, and make a dumb, rash decision like that.
As good as Season one was, the 2nd season of the White Lotus was “perfecto!” Ethan and Daphne was very ironic because Harper was talking about how much of their marriage was a front but in the end, does infidelity pay off? Depends on the lifestyle. Just loved the American Psycho overtones. Jennifer Coolidge was so good at playing borderline personality divaa. Her fate was operatic (and comedic), bravo! As someone who stayed with my father’s side of the family during one Summer in Italy; I roared in laughter the moment the Italian American family pulled up in hopes of meeting relatives and were immediately expelled. I turned to my girlfriend and said, “That’s the Italy I remember in 1995…” Lastly the two escorts’ arc was really good before they were dreading the fate of prostitutes as almost a 4th wall but in the end, they found their way to a better life. Caio, Bella! 😆
Ethan and Daphne effed and Ethan told Harper about it as soon as he saw her again. Harper is suddenly very attracted to him because of it and vice versa. It's like it fixed their relationship.
I don't think Ethan told Harper what happened.
I think it just made him feel better about the situation because now he finally got to fuck Cameron over, literally
Daphne’s next child will look like rich Uncle Ethan. :)
@@karmaklutz I agree, he didn’t tell her but it lighted a new fire in him
@@KissMyBiscuits That is so funny bc I was thinking the exact thing!
@@karmaklutz Great minds think alike! 😂
bravo - excellent review!
I was “convinced” that Tanya was going to be the blood sacrifice in some nefarious secret society ritual with all the ominous music and tone of dread. I was relieved when it turned out to be a foiled inheritance scam but was still “convinced” that there was no way she was going to face her demise and that she would wake up and make her way up to the dingy. Now I’m convinced my instincts are unreliable.
Leo Woodall was GOOD in the role of Jack! Kind of PSYCHO!
he was amazing he came across as a love island contestant and then towards the end he was calculating and terrifying.
Good tragic end to Tanya. Love the look on Quentin's dying face, he thought she was an easy mark and she got him before he and his goons could get her.
little late on the catch up here loved it thought it brought me in more than the other season all the characters were amazing but I really wanted to know more about Jack he was clearly wounded in his own way I think his back story might of seen him rescued from a bad situation and manipulated into working with these con artists I noticed the hammers tattoos and the singing I'm forever blowing bubbles in the street which is a well known hooligan anthem of Westham football club I thought we gonna hear something about this at the end there but we did not anyway great show great cast I'm ready for more from Mr White
I was genuinely nervous and tense during last 2 episodes. I can't remember any show having had that effect on me.
Favorite characters to watch: cameron, Harper, daphne, Anna, Lucia & the three boys
I liked your review but do not think some of your viewers get it. Theo James and Meghann Fahy are the best. Will Sharpe is a nice actor. Aubrey Plaza play 18 herself. I think that Daphne makes the trainer suggestion as part of her defense. She also . She is hurt and very hurt when Ethan told her about Cameron and Harper. Look at her face both both when Harper tells her about the first cheat and Daphne wanted to be friends. Harper was also coming on to Cameron. She was game playing with her questions and remarks. I think that not much happened between Daphne and Ethan other than she tried to give him courage. I think in his own way Cameron have himself away when he 18:12 Daphne you left me please don’t that again and she said she would not and in the last dinner together when he says to her thanks for putting up with him. Theo James admitting he did it himself and Mike left it in. I think that Cameron was not at all happy with the name calling and his relationship with Ethan was not what he was trying for. The best actors on season 2 are Theo James and Meghann Fahy and I hope that they are in season 3 and that they both get all the recognition they deserve. They both have amazing personalities and are funny and both can sing and dance. I hope Mike White looks to find a place for them . The actors of season 2 were all great. Jennifer Cooley is one of the best. This cast outshines season 1 They like each other and because of the length of time they were together it showed in the episodes. Theo James personality has warmth and his smile and laugh as well as Meghann’s makes them and their characters fun. I am not an Aubrey Plaza fan and feel she was more the villain than Cameron. I like your review. Please make sure you talk about Theo James and Meghann Fahy by name. My hope is they both get all the recognition they deserve.
Stop trying to make “fetch” a thing!! Let’s Fun??!? Please don’t!!!
Great analysis! I agree with you on most of your thoughts. I don't think Ethan had sex with Daphne, but I do think that something happened (like a kiss). I was super sad about Tanya, but I understand the decision and think it makes the season better, albeit heartbreaking. What is most sad is that at the end, Tanya was so insecure that she asked about Greg cheating instead of about the conspiracy to have her killed.
I agree with your review. Great writing, story ,and acting---except for the " resolution" of the relationships among Ethan, Harper, Cameron, and Daphne. I found that to be ludicrous , grossly unrealistic, and unsatisfying as far as reality goes. So--after Harper was revealed to be a cheater and liar and Ethan and Cameron attempted to drown each other hours before, they sit down together as though nothing happened and have a toast--what!!!!! And.. during the toast, Cameron expresses his pleasure at having had the opportunity to get to know Harper " properly"--clearly meaning sexually! And... Ethan and Harper raise their glasses to this sociopath. Sorry--i think that Mike White blew the writing on this segment of the story. Yeah, the story is about odd people but no one in the world would act like that. Aside from this segment, I loved the series, the story and the acting.
I have. To add to my previous comments. What many of the comments seem to ignore is that yes Cameron gets away with things but he also does love Daphne. I think that the kids are his. Do we notice Daphne’s coloring. If you are parents look at your own children sometimes. Since I have actually had 3 children I can say that many things come from family DNA. Surprise. I think that Cameron understands his old roommate. If in college Ethan struggled and Cameron who was the Campus jock at Yale it is possible that Cameron maybe understood more than we give him. credit for. There was little things that are overlooked and though Mike White does not feel Cameron will change maybe having some other things to experience in the far east can help someone like that. I do not believe people cannot change if certain things confront them. Cameron and Daphne love each other. He needs her. Ethan most likely Chas never faced up to his problems. He is smart but not worldly. We are looking at a small actually 1% of the population. Have we recently noticed Bill Gates. What about Elliot Spitzer or Andrew Cuomo . I think that the best performances are Theo James and Meghann Fayh and I think the 2 couples really need more to their stories. Certainly Tanya’s death as well. Lastly Dear Albie and Portia. . The girls who had the best con need to be caught somehow. Albie needs to stop Lucia getting the money and Mia gave drugs to the piano player. To me far more than the cheating is how did they get the drugs? I think that the unfinished stories should be addressed. You can keep bringing in more ugly rich people but after Covid that we all dealt with I think there is moreto look at and seeing it play out 😅❤as people have to deal with things. Cameron said to Daphne you left me overnight. Don’t do that again . He was in his own way asking her not to . Also she wanted a friend in Harper thinking that as a discrimination lawyer Harper might see more like Gloria Allred but Harper is an angry woman. Cameron tested her and had a choice. Because Harper and Ethan never had a good relationship she just went on to reach Cameron. Twice you saw the hurt on Daphne’s face. I think she was trying to be a friend to Ethan. That does not cure a sex problem but I think his influence would be good for Cameron. It was strange that Cameron giggled after the fight because he discovered I think she game played both of them. That is Harper. If any of his company looked to hire her or the opposition does boy does he have a story. I think that Cameron and Daphne ended the vacation not angry. That is the right thing. Cameron let Ethan know his feelings and he did let Harper also know he has her number. And he let Daphne know by saying. to her thanks for putting up with me. My question is was that a Mike White line or a Theo James line who does rand ad lib. The flossing scene is more about the tensions that exist. He is not happy with Harper and r
marks Ethan has made. He also still has to pay Lucia. I think he wanted a different out come. At the airport Daphne examines his face and he kisses her . There is more to this story. Again I think to everyone since Covid since no one has completely escaped including the wealthy we all have to consider it all. Mike White knows it very well. His father’s issues as well as other families in both the religious community and outside. Thank you again. I think that most of us look at a program with our own experiences and unfortunately many of us live more on social media instead of living life. I have turned off most opinions and will do far more of that . We elected a President without learning far more. We allowed a few Supreme Court Justices on the correct the same way. Strange one of them went to Yale for certain. Thank you
You can’t tell this story with a film. This is the right medium for it. I
Michael imperioli character seems like a guy that's been around a lot of hookers. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't put some kind of "hold" on the 50,000 euros. As soon as she left Albie next morning, the money should have been retracted.
Great pointe. He knew Albie was getting screwed in more ways then one.
I think that storyline had a lot to do with trust. He transferred the money before he told Albi. Albi put in a good word with his mom before he knew his dad transferred the money. I think Albi really made his dad feel good to (and obligated to) give Lucia the money. Like Albi said, his dad wouldn’t miss it anyway. I also feel like it taps into the same woke/fake altruism we see in season 1 from Olivia towards Paula, and from Tanya towards Belinda. Idkidkidk. There’s a lot of layers😂
Great commentary of #TheWhiteLotus Sicily. However, I'm disappointed that you failed to recognize Theo James, Meghann Fahey & Will Sharpe by name as you did recognize everyone but them. They brilliantly portrayed their characters, as you mentioned, & deserve the recognition for their work. I know it wasn't intentional but please be more careful. No one likes to be overlooked.
Check out Theo in #TheTimeTravelersWife Series. He brilliantly portrays himself at different ages thru time & does majority of his stunts. Created by Steven Moffat, directed by David Nutter, with Theo James & Rose Leslie, & author Audrey Niffenegger worked as a consultant. Award worthy performances. You won't regret watching! Would like to hear a commentary on this one also!
What about The Orville? I know you loved the Orville. 😂
Grrrrrrrrreat show! 😅 I hope somehow it comes back!
I've got to get into this show.
I just watched both seasons for the first time, but season 2 is definitely the better season. Aside from the one scene where Tanya turns into an assassin killing everyone, season 2 has a much stronger sense of realism in the characters and just throughout. It's shot and overall done better and is simply a little more entertaining. I still enjoyed the first season, but some of the characters where a little too silly and unrealistic (Mark and Shane are the first to come to mind).
Really love James Hancock. Not sure if I need to know every time he gets turned on though. I get the feeling I’d get by watching his vids quite well without consistent references to proud members. But hey, you do you. And I’ll continue to be a repressed and boring English man.
Ain't karma a bitch, like Tanya was at the end of season 1... oh, you all forgot? Great finale! WTG LUCIA!
Definitely better than season 1..
Ethan and Daphne may have had sex. I can also see Ethan seeing her intentions, realizing how messed up her and Cameron's marriage/life is (to him anyway) and feeling lucky to have what he has with Harper. Either way, hope it helped him to get over whatever he was going through. I was starting to question his sanity in the past couple of episodes tbh.
More fun than the first season!
I just found this video. I cannot believe you are real.
Poor Tanya. 😭
I always wonder who the type of person is that gets turned on by cable tv sex scenes… guess I found him
Lmao😂😂you’re probably one of those people as well. You just found a lad you can relate to
Season 2 made season 1 feel like amateur hour.
This show was awful.
I thought after a few episodes it would get better,
by then, i was already in too deep to quit,
I just wanted to see how it ended... but all it did was get more and more annoying.
Interesting I thought the show was brilliant!! Why didn’t you like it? I like hearing options that are different from mine, and perhaps I missed some of the flaws.
Love love love this show! Lol
I welcome the death of cinema. The two hour format's been mostly exhausted at this point. There's only so many stories you can squeeze into a 2 hour format or more accurately there's only so many techniques to use to squeeze a story in a two hour format so they end up having similar elements to them and they get to be relatively repetitive. The high budget tv series format has only been going on for a little over 20 years at this point, but with that I see little reason to waste any time on movies. i guess if there some original ground breaking movie, but for the most part high budget tv shows have changed the game.
I loved Season 1, and somehow Season 2 is better.
Honestly meh for me. I liked season 1 better.
Season 2 was prettier but season 1 had the better ending.
Season 1 was deliciously messy, and was pretty steady with how the story wound up the closer it got to the end.
Season 2 felt different, but was just as captivating.
@@cosmin2267 I dunno the death was of the manager was so unnecessary. It was all a big mistake and un deserved. This season has Real “marks” Tonya was a mark and Albie was a mark and the manager was a mark and Portia was a mark
Great review. I preferred season 1 but this season had so much great nudity.
I didn't really enjoy this show as much as I thought I would, I found it boring and unexciting, I had to forward the last three episodes, this would have been fine as a movie
Interesting why did you think it was “boring”🤔I agree it’s a slow burner but “boring” why do you think so?
Your review was great but other than the pervy vibes about talking about two young girls 😅
I need HBO to order a 10 episode season of The White Lotus. No more of this short-series nonsense. It's a highly popular show that reasonably not that expensive to produce. No special effects or set design. I mean, they even barely get out of the hotel. Every night every tourist just somehow eat in the same hotel restaurant.
Yeah, that season finale felt kinda rushed.
true, but still appreciate it that it's not so stretched like most Netflix drama.
The first season was really good. Not a masterpiece, but at least it was funny and edgy. It's so rare now, cos twitter crazy crowds can be offended by everything. 🐧
Going to check it some time later, thank you for a reminder.
Hbo paid him
You think the white lotus is bad?😂🤔I think it’s fantastic but I did feel the way you do when every review was praising that last of us garbage
@@raymondsims7042 so you noticed how reviewers never give negative revs
Good video, but I thought the ending was lazy. The more I watched the more I thought about how much time was wasted looking at waves, awkward silence, and closeups of paintings and statues. Dialogue was terrible. Didn't really care who lived or died in the end.
You talk about women the way Albie's grandfather does. How did you watch this show and not understand how degrading that is
Have you watched the terrible season 2 of gangs of london yet James. Gareth evens took a step back from the show and the action take a swan dive in quality
Definitely a drop in quality. Also, they're using terrible cgi blood and gore effects.