What Civic Si Drivers think of the Acura ILX

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @davea8378
    @davea8378 7 лет назад +51

    I love my Acura ILX.
    I drive a 2013 and trading it in for the 2017 2.4.
    I think it's funny how people criticize acura so much but I love it.
    Good value, resale value, reliability and service.

    • @Stonkonly
      @Stonkonly 7 лет назад +6

      sadly, no longer offers manual version after 16 model year

    • @codycrawford2385
      @codycrawford2385 3 года назад +2

      I have 2013 too lol, mines the Technology package

    • @antony7256
      @antony7256 3 года назад

      Is the dct reliable? I never owned one before

    • @eriche3197
      @eriche3197 Год назад

      @@antony7256 I drove the 2017 acura ilx much and use it as a fun car. I drove more on the winding mountain roads which need shifting frequently. I would say the DCT on acura is very reliable and responsive, and to some extent safer than manual transmission since your hands never off steering wheel. But some designs you need to know, the DCT is still automatic by nature, even it is sports manual mode, but when speed too low it still will down shift, if rev too high, it still will up shift, the ECU is monitoring it in background. But it is not a bad thing, it ensures the life and safety of transmission

  • @jashy66
    @jashy66 11 лет назад +27

    06-11 is the best year of si because of the screaming k20

    • @yayeo6520
      @yayeo6520 3 года назад +2

      I agree, it’s very exciting to hit vtec

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад +2

    Both of the Si drivers in the video said they'd go with the Si still. Nothing wrong with that, you just have to decide where you priorities are. For some, they may prefer the more upscale features of the ILX such as the heated seats, smart entry/push button start, HID headlights, and upscale styling. Some may also prefer the better service experience at the dealership that you get with the Acura badge. In the end, we felt Acura captured the spirit of the Si and that was the most important part.

  • @thelittlechief98
    @thelittlechief98 3 года назад +1

    I have an 08 Si, but this was cool to watch. Y'all were really getting on it through those curves in the intro

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад +1

    We are currently experiment with different types of reviews, always nice to mix it up every so often. Glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @BKetch
    @BKetch 10 лет назад +7

    I have a buddy with a '14 Si, and I recently test drove a '13 ILX. I like the Acura better, looks better(my opinion), more comfortable and more features. '14 Si does have a bigger head unit/screen which is nice. I might be the owner of a 15 ILX though in the very near future. I loved the car. Si seemed to racey. I loved the Auto version too, but it was such a pouch.

    • @BDOC99714
      @BDOC99714 10 лет назад

      Wait for the 2016! It's so much nicer!

    • @BKetch
      @BKetch 10 лет назад

      thebluexanadu78 Yea, but the ILX looks to be much better too. If they are closer than they were before I might consider a Si. Looking like Ill be the owner of a 16 ILX as of now though.

  • @ANDRIY_H
    @ANDRIY_H 9 лет назад +12

    I would pick ILX over a civic any day. new civics do not look good IMO. ive been a honda fan for the longest, but these new models are getting uglier each time.

    • @jamespuckett1770
      @jamespuckett1770 3 года назад

      Well only the 8th gen acura ilx is manual the new ilx are now automatic and 8th gen Si is the best generation of Si im gonna pick Si but ilx comes close second things like push start are nice

    • @MW97058
      @MW97058 3 года назад +1

      @@jamespuckett1770 i was on the fence too and test drove a 2015 SI, first. Then I saw a 2014 ILX 2.4 6SP. Oh man, the ILX was the way to go hands down IMHO. Power feels the same, transmission feels the same, and the ILX was over 4K less.

  • @ismaeljrp1
    @ismaeljrp1 10 лет назад +5

    I think the ILX is just a much better looking car. Sure maybe same performance, but if you value extra amenities and aesthetics, I think the ilx is better.

  • @her87nsxr
    @her87nsxr 8 лет назад +21

    At least ILX offers manual transmission and not the TLX

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    The Verano turbo has more power but it's also 400 pounds heavier than the ILX so both are pretty much equal in straight line speed. Both vehicles have their strengths and weakness, we've driven both and were impressed with the compact Buick, but in the end, our editor-in-chief preferred the shifter and engine response in the 2.4 ILX.

  • @zachatttackable
    @zachatttackable 11 лет назад +54

    That guy in the backseat thinks too much before he speaks. its bothering me.

  • @DerikPiano
    @DerikPiano 10 лет назад +6

    I still don't get the appeal for a 200hp fwd civic si.
    Is it because they handle well? Is it for the MPGs?

    • @813GC
      @813GC 6 лет назад

      Kurzland Vtec...

    • @813GC
      @813GC 6 лет назад

      Kurzland LSD...

    • @813GC
      @813GC 6 лет назад

      Kurzland power to weight ratio...

    • @chinchy111
      @chinchy111 5 лет назад

      Exactly what i always wonder. 200 hp has been the standard for four door family cars for years. Its nothing special just because the civic says Si

    • @cr4zym3x1c4n
      @cr4zym3x1c4n 5 лет назад

      My 2019 si handles well, 35mpg, and hangs with scatpack challenger 0-70 and beats a Tesla model 3 on a roll

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    The difference in price is actually $5,000 when comparing just the MSRP. After you factor in the better discounts on the Acura, the ILX is maybe around $3-4 grand more expensive.

  • @IndianaRailfan
    @IndianaRailfan 11 лет назад +6

    Being an individual that helps build the ILX in Greensburg, I really feel the ILX has potential to be a sportier car and it definitely has room for a bigger engine. I could realistically see a V6 going into this, but that's just from what I've had a chance to see.
    The other thing is that I feel a lot of people probably DON'T want to pay $30K for something like this when you can get an Si or a standard Civic for a lot cheaper. Then again, this vehicle was designed to be the "I'm a young man trying to make it in the corporate executive world" kind of thing and not an underground race car although it has potential to be (in my opinion).

    • @ikon8275
      @ikon8275 7 лет назад +3

      IndianaRailfan exactly!
      it's the young man's beamer/ Benz with the performance of Honda.

    • @jheychode
      @jheychode 7 лет назад

      I got a 2014 used for 16,300 with 30 000 miles, the 6 speed and i feel like for that price it was the most bag I could get for my buck, almost got a 2015 brz w/ 30 000miles but it would've cost 24,000 so my payments are 100 less a month and tbh I thought the ilx was more fun to drive. both of those prices were otd(tax, tag, dealer fee)

    • @aayonce4
      @aayonce4 7 лет назад

      But what would go in to the the bigger cars ? Accord? TLX etc

    • @Euxable
      @Euxable 5 лет назад

      why not both? :)

  • @vonklizzykloudz1303
    @vonklizzykloudz1303 5 лет назад

    Picking 1 of these up for a great deal, I test drove it and I'm excited to get in it again!

  • @bobbyboyce6174
    @bobbyboyce6174 4 года назад +2

    Hey guys i bought a 2013 ILX 2.4 almost a year ago. I love my car. Iv had other Honda's in the past . This is my favorite yet. And to even out this car in the same class with a Buick is just ridiculous, yes it might have more power, but for how long? I just feel like the ILX is alot more reliable then a Buick Verano.

  • @x44magnum
    @x44magnum 8 лет назад +4

    Test drove both but ended up walking away with a '13 4 door SI. I'm happy but would have been happy with either tbh. Just something about the SI badging/looks

    • @frenzythebeast
      @frenzythebeast 8 лет назад +4

      J Wilson It's all about that "Si" badge. The history that follows it 😍

  • @smokescreen399
    @smokescreen399 5 лет назад +2

    I bought the 2019 ILX and absolutely love the exterior, I love the feel and drive. I did add a type r wing, Magna flow Cat back with a AEM short ram, and wow I'm in love. I really dont care about the infotainment system.

    • @ColbyBeats604
      @ColbyBeats604 4 года назад +1

      Hey man. I got the same car. Could you contact me? I’m interested about doing the same to mine and would love to know more about ur vehicle upgrades

    • @smokescreen399
      @smokescreen399 4 года назад +1

      @@ColbyBeats604 hi, I put a the type R spoiler, carbon fiber wrapped from the door panels console, Cat back Magnaflow exhaust, AEM short ram, Eibache Pro kit lowering springs, tinted wrapped my head lights, type R badge on my rear. Also bought a set of summer rim and put my winter tires my my factory rims, winter tires a must where I live. Parts are so hard to get here in Canada. I really don't wanna touch the engine componets til my warranty close from expiration. Hope that helps

    • @smokescreen399
      @smokescreen399 4 года назад +1

      @@ColbyBeats604 dude the way I have my car now I love the feel and driving experience. So many people ask what kind of car it is and so many positive input. Feels great yet you a bit of luxury cus it's an Acura.

    • @smokescreen399
      @smokescreen399 4 года назад +1

      @@ColbyBeats604 wooki_72 is my Instagram, you full pics of my 2019ilx

    • @ColbyBeats604
      @ColbyBeats604 4 года назад

      Smokescreen cool, I dm’d you on insta, if you could give me more info on the exhaust and air intake that’d be great. Looking to do it to mine but can’t find any that “fit”

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    We'll be getting some footage of his Si soon. He's made some tasteful modifications to it.

  • @Bryanke18
    @Bryanke18 11 лет назад +1

    I would like to take the time out and tell how much I like and appreciate you reviews. In my opinon the Acura ILX and Civic SI are twin brothers, one is a boisterous athele that likes attention, partying and at the same time can be leisurely. The other twin is more mature, laid-back, casual and boisterous as well, like it's twin it is not afraid of a street fight and can stand up of itself.

  • @Pie4life123
    @Pie4life123 4 года назад +1

    the ILX is the best it’s higher end affordable but reliable as a Honda. Civics are just cheap eco boxes on wheels.

  • @ohbabybigboy
    @ohbabybigboy 11 лет назад +1

    My first car was an integra gsr, b18c1 engine. Loved revving it, but it definetly needed more torque. The new si seems like it would be perfect

  • @AllUNeedMotors
    @AllUNeedMotors 11 лет назад

    This was really cool! Maybe perhaps in the future you could have Jackson in your vids too! I'd like to see his perspective on the GTI.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    It sure has, it just surpassed the TSX in the past couple of months.

  • @TheSadface25
    @TheSadface25 9 лет назад +7

    that guy in the back is annoying

  • @ajvangorden1344
    @ajvangorden1344 10 лет назад +8

    I'd rather have an Si for the price difference. If I'm gonna pay over 30 grand I'll get an Evo. The 2013 and up Si have an interior almost as nice and the same engine and coupe or sedan versions.

    • @smokeybear45
      @smokeybear45 7 лет назад +3

      AJ VanGorden it's a grown mans civic

  • @codyandrews70
    @codyandrews70 6 лет назад +1

    I have a 17 ilx and I love it so much

  • @BlakesCars2
    @BlakesCars2 11 лет назад

    The guy in the blue shirt seems to be the one that all ways argued with the teacher. Good video!

  • @senorgato70
    @senorgato70 11 лет назад

    That guy in the blue is exactly the guy that you cannot wait for a conversation to end so you can finally walk away from it without being rude.

  • @00BeatsByAura
    @00BeatsByAura 11 месяцев назад

    I drive a 16 ilx and I hate having to push my car just to hear it but Acura isn’t meant to be pushed around and has anyone put a 15’ si wing spoiler yet ?

  • @michaelk9056
    @michaelk9056 5 лет назад +1

    Acura seat doesn't go low enough...no LSD... And to plug for the radar stretches out the cord. And exhaust pipe is hidden.

  • @mahfah7911
    @mahfah7911 10 лет назад +2

    Please do this same video for ilx 2016 model. I am looking forward to that befor buying ilx

    • @alexis-reyes
      @alexis-reyes 6 лет назад

      Mah Fah my mother has the 16 a spec, I've got a short video on my channel, if you wanna check it out

  • @AMDX1325
    @AMDX1325 11 лет назад +1

    Great review, I like this format, but it sounds like you can improve on audio recording, maybe get a directional mic, etc

  • @ijl05
    @ijl05 11 лет назад +1

    Most automaker are just starting to build smaller that combine bigger engine connecting to an automatic transmission. I feel like Acura could do it, although it may bring the price even higher. Nonetheless, I will buy it of course if I was looking for a small luxury car with a bigger engine. 150hp is just too weak for a luxury brand. It should make between 180-200 hp with a 6 speed or more automatic transmission, something that Mazda3 offer in their 2.5 model and provide better gas mileage.

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. 11 лет назад +1

    i agree...my 95 prelude had the best stick shift ive ever used, before or after.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    Mazda6 is all filmed! just need to get started on editing it :P

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    Look for our review of the 2014 Mazda6 6-speed to be uploaded shortly. That video should help you make your decision ;)

  • @joedoole3527
    @joedoole3527 8 лет назад +4

    The 2.4 ILX has potential, but the former that are powered by a glorified over bored base Civic R engine left a lot to be desired.

  • @mrkzj2
    @mrkzj2 10 лет назад +17

    Dude in the back... I'm sorry, but he's just genuinely annoying.

    • @motormusique
      @motormusique 6 лет назад

      He makes some good points, why you hatin?

  • @gab13005
    @gab13005 10 лет назад +1

    How do your friends fell about buying a 12 when it was changed in 13 and again in 14?

  • @Umerabbasi
    @Umerabbasi 11 лет назад +2

    Acura badge vs Honda badge, just so you can tell your girlfriend/friends/family that you drive an Acura instead of Honda Civic. Look at it this way, you be seen driving an Acura instead of a Honda civic. OK i am repeating myself now.

  • @jamespuckett1770
    @jamespuckett1770 4 года назад

    8th gen over these any day of the week, taffeta white for the win with leds 😍

  • @Teeradej01588
    @Teeradej01588 11 лет назад +1

    love your voice. beautiful voice.

  • @dmarker21
    @dmarker21 11 лет назад

    What are you talking about? My point is simply that they've improved the interior and there is less of a gap between the 13SI and ILX as there is between the 12SI and ILX. I didn't say the interior is "so" much better. But it is better. And I'm not an 'interior quality fan." I bought the car for it's engine and transmission and limited slip. If I was interested in in interiors I would have bought the Acura - which is overpriced. Thus the point of my original post.

  • @daynerampersad2438
    @daynerampersad2438 11 лет назад

    is that SI a 2012 or 2013, in the video when sen from the front it looks like a 13 and from the back it looks like a 12

  • @pizzaisgood14
    @pizzaisgood14 10 лет назад

    Which car would be better for a 6'1 310 lb guy driving long commutes every day ( over 1 hour )

    • @uhsen
      @uhsen 9 лет назад

      +Garrett Dipilato tl

  • @occamsrazor6613
    @occamsrazor6613 10 лет назад

    Nice review. If only we could hear what you guys were saying, but we couldn't with all that noise coming in from the open sunroof.

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    He is certainly one of the most opinionated automotive enthusiasts we've ever met lol

    • @kr9181
      @kr9181 2 года назад

      Any problem with dct 8 sp? Cons pros?

  • @elioneil
    @elioneil 8 лет назад +1

    Lol at the guy in the backseat subtly bragging about the Audis, Mercedes, etc he's had. Answer the question! lol

  • @s0m3an0nym0usdud3
    @s0m3an0nym0usdud3 9 лет назад

    @Kurzland I think the better question is, what is unappealing about a 200hp fwd Civic Si? Nothing imo...

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    Thank you, we enjoyed the track! We really liked your latest upload Crocs' by Walldahl. We used it in our latest review of the 2013 Elantra :)

  • @theredline
    @theredline  11 лет назад

    Yes, it's the dirty little secret in the ILX family :)

  • @acadian33
    @acadian33 11 лет назад

    Great episode. I would suggest though to maybe mike the person in the back seat as he was difficult to understand at times.

  • @shakperry7348
    @shakperry7348 2 года назад

    If you want performance go for the si..if you want luxury go for the ilx...I'd take the si over the ilx..love the v tech gage ..red seats..just has more sauce and the sound is amazing..ilx is nice as well...sounds good but I find the si sounds better ..ilx the made it more quiet in the interior... can't hear the v tech as much as in the SI

  • @brorowcarwiz
    @brorowcarwiz 11 лет назад

    I don't get why Navi is optional on the Si, but not the ILX!

  • @dmarker21
    @dmarker21 11 лет назад

    Interesting video and opinions. I have a 2013 SI. I have not been in the ILX, but I'm having a hard time on understanding how this car can cost 8 grand more than an SI and you don't get the mechanical differential. Yes it has leather seats and probably some nicer quality interior components, but it seems rather superficial. With the 2013 re-fresh the SI feels much more premium. So the gap is even narrower. If you don't care about leather seats (me), there is no question the SI is the better car.

  • @elic5355
    @elic5355 3 года назад

    That’s weird because those si lose to the 1.5t civic,when I’ve smoked those in my iLX dct

  • @Umerabbasi
    @Umerabbasi 11 лет назад

    No, its averaging about 1600 per month. While civic been #2 in recent months behind Camry. 2014 is the last year for TSX so when it's gone, ILX sale numbers will change.

  • @olaf2046
    @olaf2046 11 лет назад

    The Prius caught up and passed at 05:25
    hehehehe

  • @boovoo66
    @boovoo66 11 лет назад +2

    I can't hear the guy in back

    • @alekdamyanov375
      @alekdamyanov375 4 года назад

      you're not missing anything important or of value

  • @Drewbie85
    @Drewbie85 11 лет назад

    Has the ILX picked up in sales?

  • @EFCONNECT
    @EFCONNECT 11 лет назад

    I meant 2.4L...sorry about the type-o. I liked my 02 WRX, w/ opt factory short throw...I did not like how going from 1st to 2nd was difficult 80% of the time, as the trans would block you out until you made a few attempts. I also disliked the car's occasional jerkiness at low speeds. The car was rarely a smooth or satisfying experience. Now my GSR, I could have driven that car in my sleep. I have yet to test the new Mazda 3...but it offers way more options than the ILX 2.4L...nav anyone?

  • @guccimanuel577
    @guccimanuel577 11 лет назад +9

    Lol he said k20 is a real engine!!!!lol no torque bruh! J series is a man engine that's a real engine

    • @ikon8275
      @ikon8275 7 лет назад

      fuck ya man....vTec 6 is where at!

  • @hasoon0ab
    @hasoon0ab 11 лет назад

    great video

  • @specialbrownbeef
    @specialbrownbeef 11 лет назад

    Sofyan which one do you prefer, a BRZ/FRS or Civic Si..?

  • @ugutierrez55
    @ugutierrez55 11 лет назад

    I liked when the turtle slid off and made a big splash. Hahahaha

  • @ijl05
    @ijl05 11 лет назад

    The ILX is a good luxury car for younger buyer, but those who want a better value probably should look at the Buick Verano since you can get more powerful engine with an automatic transmission at nearly the same price. If less is for your philosophy, then go for the ILX or the Verano. But there's no denying you can get a bigger car for the same money or other small car at a cheaper price. If Acura put an automatic on the 2.4 engine, I think the ILX probably will sales more.

    • @FT9chango5
      @FT9chango5 Год назад

      Not sure about the Buick’s reliability..

  • @ohbabybigboy
    @ohbabybigboy 11 лет назад

    Great video you should do similar ones like this

  • @dmarker21
    @dmarker21 11 лет назад

    If only it had the mechanical limited slip diff., I'd say the ILX was a worthy upgrade. Still a nice car though.

  • @Nestle245
    @Nestle245 7 лет назад

    Was he comfortable in the back? I know its a pretty tiny car.

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter 11 лет назад

    In truth the press panned the 2012 Civic for cutting corners and bad handling attributes as well as cheap interior trim. That's why they reworked the model for 2013.

  • @EFCONNECT
    @EFCONNECT 11 лет назад

    I think the new 2014 Mazda 3 will give the ILX a run for its money. Great styling and a nice interior. I wanted to like the ILX 2.5...but for the price...it is still lacking. While I have loved Hondas ever since my 1995 Acura Integra GSR. I have yet to find a stick shift that has been better. I was disappointed with my 2002 WRX (stick shift that is). Still looking for the next car...or more value in the ILX. Maybe Mazda will give me what I seek.

  • @theproweb
    @theproweb 11 лет назад

    Will you be doing the '14 corolla any time soon? :)

  • @Portalpotty
    @Portalpotty 10 лет назад +10

    Okay, the guy in the back has to stop puking titles and names from his mouth

  • @CSIG1001
    @CSIG1001 11 лет назад +1

    Ill keep my 2004 accord coupe 6mt vs any car in this review

  • @PhreshNBeat
    @PhreshNBeat 11 лет назад

    Oh gawd, plz do review of 8th gen si, i'm in the market for one.

  • @hondaftw1234
    @hondaftw1234 11 лет назад

    Lol I gave Sofyan the name for his plate.

  • @kwillee93
    @kwillee93 11 лет назад

    Can't wait to hear about the Mazda (:

  • @poppaschlong2000
    @poppaschlong2000 11 лет назад

    If you want to be taken seriously as a automotive reviewer, you shouldn't be posting unsafe driving practices. In around the 1:00 mark, the white civic crosses the double yellow line a couple times. I've seen many collisions resulting from such poor driving. Just an observation, you do have an entertaining channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @FLAKKU03
    @FLAKKU03 11 лет назад

    1. Why Brandon did not drive the car?
    2. Why an exterior of the Acura wasn't shown in this video?

  • @lifeinaqua660
    @lifeinaqua660 4 месяца назад

    Have to speed up the video to make the Civic appear fast. 😂

  • @calgarytek
    @calgarytek 11 лет назад

    Does it have front double wishbones?

    • @LISTERIINE0
      @LISTERIINE0 10 лет назад

      no its the same chassis as a civic

    • @calgarytek
      @calgarytek 10 лет назад +1

      Nathan McCallister What a shame. What's a front wheel drive car without an upper control arm?! Everything's got mcpherson struts on the front these days and a multi link in the back. Like what, I'm going to take a corner going backwards?! Seems like it.

    • @LISTERIINE0
      @LISTERIINE0 10 лет назад

      yea but the fact of the matter is if your looking for a sports car and are on a budget there is always the frs and brz and those cars will put a bigger smile on your face than a civic si

  • @aayonce4
    @aayonce4 7 лет назад +1

    There’s a reason he didn’t let him drive lmao

  • @DanielBlaney
    @DanielBlaney 11 лет назад

    Its also just not competitive with even vehicles in the class below it like the focus titanium and fusion.

  • @DC_E90
    @DC_E90 11 лет назад

    This car is pretty much the Acura EL, Honda Domani. remade&reborn...

  • @wojiaobill
    @wojiaobill 11 лет назад

    so basically it comes down to : do you want to pay about $6000 more than the Si just for leather and Acura badging, and give up your LSD? For me, at least, the answer is a definitive "no"

    • @HookahPhene
      @HookahPhene 11 лет назад +4

      with that $6k you can turbo the si!

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter 11 лет назад

    Actually senorgato70 is the kind of guy that you can't wait to walk away from at the end of a conversation and you wouldn't mind if he was done or not!

  • @Frum5
    @Frum5 10 лет назад

    2013 civic si beats all others in its price range

  • @zkum16
    @zkum16 11 лет назад

    Is this your personal car?

  • @Grenade216
    @Grenade216 11 лет назад

    Please review the 14 corolla

  • @johnson_brandon1356
    @johnson_brandon1356 9 лет назад

    Vtec kicked in ?

  • @FordTaurusSHO93
    @FordTaurusSHO93 11 лет назад

    Yeah, cuz Honda Civic drivers are known for their good taste......

  • @MySalsaSingle
    @MySalsaSingle 11 лет назад

    That's your ILX?

  • @DopeChefHD
    @DopeChefHD 11 лет назад

    Chuck Norris is right. WoW.

  • @Noahcrockett14
    @Noahcrockett14 11 лет назад

    You guys should invest in a better camera

  • @canto_v12
    @canto_v12 11 лет назад

    Not sure how you concluded that Civics are "bad" cars in any way. Approximately zero journalists have expressed that opinion, even on the 2012 which was derided as a cost-cutter.

  • @Smartlib_lol
    @Smartlib_lol 6 лет назад

    The guy on the back seat needs a wireless mic...

  • @pierrecastanets1974
    @pierrecastanets1974 11 лет назад

    A coworker traded a TL-shawd for an ILX 2.4

  • @Veyronp87
    @Veyronp87 11 лет назад

    they should put a turbo 4 in it. that would make it sick

  • @Garrison2592
    @Garrison2592 11 лет назад

    For $30,000 personally I would have just gotten a CPO 3 Series or IS 350.