9,607 negative comments. Not even ONE comment here saying that they like they car. That's some pretty telling market feedback; the management team at Stellantis is likely already packing the stuff off their desks into cardboard boxes.
That’s right. Infiniti announced that 2024 was the last year of rhe v8 in their flagship suv the qx80. The used low mileage qx 80s are disappearing in like 5 seconds, and the turbo v6 new inifijiti’s will be sitting and sitting. The market has spoken across many applications: Americans want normal vehicles and many prefer big displacement v8s and not ev’s, nor twin turbo trash. Fuck the environment, I say bring back the 7.4 Liter and 8.0 liter naturally aspirated v8’s and let them guzzle gas: who cares. Dodge charger ev: wow! Pack your shit
@@dominikz.1376Hybrids and sustainable fuels are the way forward. Nobody asked for EVs to be the only option but politicians tried to force it with their ICE bans that will never happen.
@@dominikz.1376i remember reading this article that claimed that if everyone on earth drove used diesels, we would be doing better for the environment than building all these EV manufacturing sites. And I can see it, I’m a superintendent for a big concrete company, we did a BMW manufacturing site, a $1.6 billion contract, and all day, every day, for give or take a year, there are countless gigantic diesel machines running…. Literally all day. Dump trucks, delivery trucks, multiple cranes, countless forklifts and lulls, on site concrete plant, and concrete trucks running all day. That doesn’t even include all generators, including the big one that gives power to the General Contracter’s trailer… again all day every day. Also now we have these big ass lithium battery’s that are going to be extremely difficult to recycle. So actually, the EV’s are actually not good for the environment.
And the worst part is, it was COMPLETELY, 100% predictable. Everyone knew this is exactly what was going to happen. Simply put, it was too ambitious. They had a golden goose, a car that STILL sold in good numbers more than a decade after its initial launch and yet they decided to go trendy and... now they get what they deserve. This is not to say they couldn't have done an EV. But the guys are right: if you're gonna do an EV, then do a pure EV. Having an "EV line" and an ICE line would've been the smartest choice. Then let the consumer decide which one they preferred.
Honestly, I really like the car. If I wanted an EV this would be the top of my list. I think people keep assuming this was supposed to be something it's not. It's not a corner carving crazy monster. It's a bruising commuter. I think it looks great and is pretty cool. Sure it's heavy and big, but why is that such a big issue? It's not like the old cars were lithe lightweights.
V8 Challenger is a muscle car, its supposed to be big, loud and have no traction at all and thats why people buy it Mustang and Camaro are more track focused Pony cars in comparison
Is there any wonder why the CEO of Stellantis was shown the door a few days ago? Recalls and big discounts are imminent. This thing is an abomination to all gearheads.
7:20 the Frunk is an option that costs more. If you don’t pay for it, the frunk storage void is still there, they just conceal it with a plastic cover so you can’t use it. It’s so dumb and should be standard
@@Junitago Rated down by everyone simply bc “It’s not what we’re used to?” . The same silly, childish reason they have to destroy everything new. I would have told them NO! Go review something else or buy 1. Then you can rate it however you like.
@@milton112it’s a horrible EV, Tesla model 3 performance is faster, handles better, more technology built in, weighs almost 2000 lbs less and is 30k+ cheaper.
If a critical sensor that will cause a Chrysler/dodge/jeep engine to cook itself to death 100,000 miles early costs $0.20, versus a critical sensor that costs $0.21 that will preserve a vehicle for 100,000 miles and give repair free operating time, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep will always always opt for the $0.20 sensor to save $0.01 per vehicle. Rember that! Most of the other car companies won’t do such a thing
What a complete joke and yet another f*ck up by Stellantis. That shot itself already in the feet a long time ago.. And now committed economical suicide and shot itself straight trough the head with this electric “muscle car” that nobody wants, wich costs a eye-watering 90k, soulless, heavy aircraft carrier with a freaking speaker that suppose to sounds like a car.. Gimme a f*cking break! What a time we live in.. The bigger picture imo is that the so-called “green” and “sustainable” woke agenda with their toxic tentacles has even penetrated the automotive sector.. the recently Jaguar saga is the most atrocious example of it! 😒
still talking over 1k for a car payment. i'm sure they'll lease for $200 a month b/c youll own nothing and be happy. got to get these car prices back to normal.
What car brands really need to do is try to embrace and improve upon the electric motor sound. If we managed to do it with gas engines then we can certainly do it with electric cars. Dodge should have followed what Porsche did.
So it's electric with a fake V8 sound, electric with slow throttle response, electric with turbo lag, fake V8 with turbo sneezes, 4WD which does RWD burnouts, slower in full-attack than in auto, heavier than a two-story house, and will be electric with gear shifts? I mean... Is it really all we don't want in an ICE car with all the disadvantages of an EV? WTAF?!
Might be from the front tires. They seemed to be spinning a little quicker. I'm not convinced, though. They really needed to not put in any fake sounds and just let the electric motor be noisy.
I find it mind boggling that someone would click on a video that is all around directed to a vehicle they absolutely hate just to hate on it and provide no feedback on it whatsoever. That sums up to car community in 2024. Bring back 2010 humbleness please...
Ok, the only things I can appreciate about it is it looks like the vintage Coke Bottle Charger. It's got a great boxy front end a grill and the boxy tail. The two door too is nice to see make a come back.
Dodge didn't want to I'm a dodge fan but but wht when they had to discontinued the v8 it hurts my soul but same time I did some research and realized that they had to don't hate on the ev charger its still new to the world
About as reasonably competent as Jaguar doing the same thing after having to literally buy back 3k+ I paces that they couldnt ever fix after YEARS and, like Stalantis, have some of the slowest and outdated infotainments in the business…absolutely moronic.
We have a pacifica who's HU has been glichy in the year and a half I have owned it. It has been in several times. It is waiting on a head unit to even be able to be ordered. I was told early in the process by uConnect, it was becase or phones are too new. I told them that was a BS excuse and they should hired better software devs if my being at x.x.5 instead of x.x.4 is going to break things. Kenwood doesn't have that problem.
@@maximilianocisneros2102you’ll regret effing with anything French, warranty or no. Unless you’re invading France, then they’ll just kinda roll over and let you take the place 😂
@@maximilianocisneros2102 As far as I remember, electric stuff was never their(French) thing. Everything was over complicated… but historically, it was multiple times when there are some heads that figured out everything and just replaced every single wire and you have your swap done It’s just a matter of time
@@maximilianocisneros2102 As opposed to an American reengineered Merc, lol? Old Charger has been for sale since 2 decades ago and has never been reliable. Not long ago the French had one of the most reliable and efficient diesels on the market and have always had reliability issues because they were innovators, not because they were cheaply built like their american counterparts (dodge, chrysler, ford, chevy, etc...). You wont see french cars with broken axles (300C), rust issues (all 2000s ford) or grenading engines (chevy since forever).
@@AI-qd4vb I would really disagree to the rust issues, my friend. I live in Warsaw and there are hell lot of french cars "without" rocker panels or fenders, or both. I mean cars 1990s till mid 2010s.
I watch for the Throttle House guys. Doing everything they can to try and make these horrible boring new cars somewhat interesting. Bless their hearts.
@@christiangwenner6384Not a criticism, I'm just wondering what about this car you find to be interesting? The front wing is cool but out of place, in my opinion, and that's really all I can think of. The speakers are super cheesy, but I guess that's why people buy chargers/challengers anyways
I'm only 24 and I don't like this thing. It wasn't made out of choice. It was forced upon Dodge by the European side of Stellantis. It sucks and they know it. They never even gave the chargers/challengers a hybrid (which it so desperately needed).
Because it's trying to make itself look like it's still the same old thing you love. Hyundai has been leaning fully into cyberpunk and I love them for it.
When that hairdryer can also make toast while I'm driving, it might be interesting. But rolling up to "the spot" in one of these with the fake subwoofer exhaust is gonna get you laughed off the lot.
If the technology is not there, dont built it. I get that we have fleet fuel consumption laws (very unconstitutional!), but Dodge just should have kept building affordable V8's and sue the US govt. for commie lawmaking would def. have made more money with that!
It’s came out today, that former CEO Carlos Tavares of Stellantis personally killed the Hemi. Apparently the entire upper management fought him, but he said he wanted the V8 dead for a greener future. With no plans in place, or new model to replace the charger, he killed the most profitable vehicle the company made. All to prove a point he could do it. One of the worst decisions in business history.
@@MJ-fj9yvTim K is back in the saddle and rumor has it they’ve already requested a bunch of hellcat V8s, but those may be destined for some ram 1500s. But they’ve been testing ICE chargers in Mexico as well.
You have to understand….Eventually V8s will be obsolete. It wont happen in our lifetime, but in two more centuries it could happen. It’ll get to a point where no one will have to drive, and we can travel automatically way quicker….Eventually, airplanes will only be needed for overseas travel.
in the US a lot of brands are giving in to hybrids because of all the problems with EVs. as long as theyre designed right a hybrid is universally better than an EV in most uses
@@neilturner6749 And they wonder why China is skyrocketing past them in innovation and economically. It's one thing to care for the environment, it's another to overdo it in the name of appeasing political radicals who see families with children and farmers as "problems that need to be sorted out."
Electric cars aren’t simply the future. The electrification of all transport isn’t realistic and even possible. By far not enough rare earths to build those stupid so-called “durable” and “green” electric nightmare. And to charge all that net-zero stupidity in the near future, is more coper needed than there is ever mined from day one in the coming years! That fact alone clearly shows the hypocrisy, insanity and tunnel vision of policymakers and governments about this eco-socialist utopia! 😒
It’s not that it doesn’t have a V8, the Nissan GTR does not have a V8 and that car is beautiful. This Dodge is an ugly looking car. The front end is the only good looking part of the exterior. Even if you put a V8, it’s an ugly car with a V8.
They forgot the 850hp Mustang GTD exists, which btw set the 5th fastest lap record around the Nurburgring. Like bruh, Stellantis has fallen off a cliff 😂
thats the problem. yeah we're elitists and electric haters and blablabla but this shit sounds horrid it's like that "mod" you'd do on your bike, putting a can on the rear wheel. even that sounded better cause IT'S AN ACTUAL SOUND BEING MADE not played by a speaker also looking at the rear of the car "revving" with no vibration or smoke or anything is just disgusting fuck this
@@yurilopes420 Bro, a guy hanging out of the window with a trombone would sound better than that fake exhaust noise, and that'd be way cheaper than whatever Dodge probably spent on developing this tech. It's just sad.
Hyundai did it right by separating their EV models from their normal lineup. How did Dodge not learn from Ford's mistake of using the Mustang moniker on an EV model
to be entirely fair, the Mach-E’s name wasn’t stupid because it was an EV, it was stupid because they called a 5-door SUV a “Mustang” just because it was sporty and they grafted stang taillights onto it. If it was a sporty EV SUV with Mustang taillights that they ONLY called the “Ford Mach-E” and NOT the “Ford Mustang Mach-E” I think it would’ve been fine
Why not, they already put a speaker in the V8’s to make them sound like a batter V8. Almost all ICE vehicles have a speaker on the inside to make them sound better.
If they are just put a hemi v8 there, and keep awd for the top end version, and name it somehow like charger hellfire or something, it would be an amazing car. Gosh, just a v8 and they are done a perfect job. But no, ev and a six cil, meanwhile Mustang has a v8 and its amazing, new tech, good design, and a v8. My money will go to a ford if i want a muscle car, or I'll still buy and old charger.
Dear Stellantis, We like the way cars sound because we appreciate where the sound comes from and what happened to make said sound. I can get the same result of the "charger" EV "exhaust" with a golf cart, my walmart soundbar, and an MP3 player. Sincerely, Someone who hopes whoever buys you next year actually knows how to run a company.
Honestly you are lucky, since in Europe they have more strict sound pollution laws that makes most cars have a fake exhaust system and they sound all the same
As a Charger owner for 5 years now that thing makes me cry.... a legacy getting murdered in 1 generation. The price is ridicioulus for what you get IMHO, the artificial exhaust embarrassing. 5700+ lbs is just the icing on the cake. Also why do they hand out a vehicle with buggy software? Would expect dodge to test that stuff like the track mode. At least the interior looks nice but thats all the positive here for me
Also why would they give them a car with orange peel lol, you’d think they would want to put the best quality car they have for reviewers. Unless this is the best they can do and the regular copies will be even worse
I agree but someone will buy one. Hopefully they sell just one, scrap the whole project, regain their sanity, and go back to larger gas engines with no exhaust, which is what we want.
I was able to talk to my GM from the Dodge/RAM dealer I worked at a few years ago and he said that the amount of of people not interested in this thing is a big concern based off of some dealer/manufacturer surveys
This thing weighs 1,700 lbs more than the $55k Tesla Model 3 Performance which is a 4 door sedan that runs 10s in the 1/4 mile. This Dodge isn’t quick at all and it is way overpriced. It is just a terrible effort at making an EV.
@@systemoptimizer3542 Who cares what it looks like when the performance is that much better and it's still $35,000 cheaper than this? Oh, but it looks sportier.. lol, wtf point are you trying to make? You don't make any sense.
@@systemoptimizer3542red model 3 performance with 20s wheels & red calipers with carbon spoiler is pretty much sport look, but damn it's performance is much superior compared to this & plus, you can buy FSD for 8K$ & still save money... choosing this car over model 3 performance is just nothing more than support of the manufacturer, that's all.
As a long time Mopar fan, you two are literally the only reason I haven't turned off the video after the word EV. They finally get the shape of the charger somewhat actually like a charger and then do this with it. Yes, I don't care if there's a six cylinder combustion version. There's already planned for the new hemi V8 to fit into this one.
Yes but again, you can't really blame Dodge when they've been taking loses on every V8 they sold for the past 4 years under Biden. Ford dropped the V8 in their F150 for a decade to keep the Mustang. Don't like where the auto industry is headed? Make sure you and other car guys vote for the right people next time.
Is there? So far it only seems like conjecture from "maybe folk who have insider info," maybe randos blowing smoke. At least no one I follow seems to be on that train. Yeah, with Tavares gone and Trump 2.0 there's distant hope maybe, but that's all I see
You know that Chrysler stopped making the HEMI 50 years ago? The third gen is no HEMI. Just because it has funny valve angles and a million plugs doesn't mean it's a HEMI, it's just a (better) pent roof with marketing wank attached to it.
What's your stance on EV "exhausts"?
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It's better to make some noise than nothing (and safer for pedestrians), but I also don't love how it sounds.
It sounds like there trying too hard to not be an EV..
Can you just play music through it? Pass!!
I guess I agree ,but the timing isn't even accurate when there reving ,its so poorly thought out.@@NamAim1991
Stupid. It’s an attempt at trying to be something it’s not
Can't wait till I get one and straight speaker it. Imagine how loud it will be
I'll bet you'll be amped-up after that mod.
I’m going for the Bluetooth mod so I can sing my own exhaust note to the world
I just died lol-ing. Comment of the year.
😂
O-m-g 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
5767 lbs... the boat has become the ship
More than my Silverado.. Insane
2 for 1 deal.
damn beats the new m5 jesus
Got DAM!!
Lmao
“Yo, rev them speakers”
"Yo, pop the frunk"
Underrated comment 😂😂
"Rev up those fryers!"
They had the nerve to show us what it sounded like as a reason to stay and watch lmaooo
Can’t wait for the aftermarket to have JL audio sub woofers to make a low rumble shake the ground demon shaker 😂
9,607 negative comments. Not even ONE comment here saying that they like they car. That's some pretty telling market feedback; the management team at Stellantis is likely already packing the stuff off their desks into cardboard boxes.
That’s right.
Infiniti announced that 2024 was the last year of rhe v8 in their flagship suv the qx80.
The used low mileage qx 80s are disappearing in like 5 seconds, and the turbo v6 new inifijiti’s will be sitting and sitting.
The market has spoken across many applications: Americans want normal vehicles and many prefer big displacement v8s and not ev’s, nor twin turbo trash.
Fuck the environment, I say bring back the 7.4 Liter and 8.0 liter naturally aspirated v8’s and let them guzzle gas: who cares.
Dodge charger ev: wow! Pack your shit
@@dominikz.1376Hybrids and sustainable fuels are the way forward. Nobody asked for EVs to be the only option but politicians tried to force it with their ICE bans that will never happen.
@@dominikz.1376i remember reading this article that claimed that if everyone on earth drove used diesels, we would be doing better for the environment than building all these EV manufacturing sites. And I can see it, I’m a superintendent for a big concrete company, we did a BMW manufacturing site, a $1.6 billion contract, and all day, every day, for give or take a year, there are countless gigantic diesel machines running…. Literally all day. Dump trucks, delivery trucks, multiple cranes, countless forklifts and lulls, on site concrete plant, and concrete trucks running all day. That doesn’t even include all generators, including the big one that gives power to the General Contracter’s trailer… again all day every day. Also now we have these big ass lithium battery’s that are going to be extremely difficult to recycle. So actually, the EV’s are actually not good for the environment.
And the worst part is, it was COMPLETELY, 100% predictable. Everyone knew this is exactly what was going to happen. Simply put, it was too ambitious. They had a golden goose, a car that STILL sold in good numbers more than a decade after its initial launch and yet they decided to go trendy and... now they get what they deserve.
This is not to say they couldn't have done an EV. But the guys are right: if you're gonna do an EV, then do a pure EV. Having an "EV line" and an ICE line would've been the smartest choice. Then let the consumer decide which one they preferred.
Honestly, I really like the car. If I wanted an EV this would be the top of my list. I think people keep assuming this was supposed to be something it's not. It's not a corner carving crazy monster. It's a bruising commuter. I think it looks great and is pretty cool. Sure it's heavy and big, but why is that such a big issue? It's not like the old cars were lithe lightweights.
Now the charger actually comes with a charger
it can be used as a charger to with bi-directional charging
The chargers charger cable Is charging the charger.
And it's still rubbish lol
I think that pun is the only reason it’s called a charger and not a challenger
LMAO
“Dodge gets bullied for being heavy”
Dodge: HEAVIER
I think bmw beat them out on that one mate
@@theepicricemaker6611the m5 touring (a wagon) is over 100 lbs lighter than this😭, still heavy asf tho
@@_mundi What's your point? The ICE versions will weigh around 4,000 flat. So I'm not exactly worried that the EV is a heavy pig, like the rest.
I read "HEAVIER" in the voice of that baked bean meme!
V8 Challenger is a muscle car, its supposed to be big, loud and have no traction at all and thats why people buy it
Mustang and Camaro are more track focused Pony cars in comparison
I think what dodge is doing is perfect. With no one wanting it, no one will steal it. The anti theft engineering is genius
I want it
Is there any wonder why the CEO of Stellantis was shown the door a few days ago? Recalls and big discounts are imminent. This thing is an abomination to all gearheads.
@@demetriusbartholomewhopefully you don’t pay full price for it, wait a few months and they’ll be giving them away
Yeh, it’s ugly as hell but sound is necessary for boring elect cars.
Don't have to worry about anybody stealing my charger cuz I'll never own one
7:20 the Frunk is an option that costs more. If you don’t pay for it, the frunk storage void is still there, they just conceal it with a plastic cover so you can’t use it. It’s so dumb and should be standard
you gotta love that corporate bullshit
Really? You have to pay extra for ... a hole?
@@gebeme11 a tale as old as time
I’m a Chevy GM Man this 💩 ain’t it 😂😂😂😂
@@06jj28 I’m a Mopar man and I agree 🫤
Car salesman difficulty levels:
Recruit: Used cars
Regular: New cars
Veteran: Stellantis products
I’m actually a new car salesman at a Stellantis dealership. Cherokees and wranglers are selling very well we haven’t got these chargers yet tho
@@skxrillionaire my brother works at Berman Dodge and Chrysler here in Illinois and they already have them
@skxrillionaire look at any list. Dodge , Chrysler jeep always have the top slowest selling models across the board its not even close.
Legend: selling an EV charger
@@skxrillionaire same. And Ram
Dodge successfully united muscle car and EV car enthusiasts…. They both hate it equally.
That is wild work 🤣
Nah facts, EV enthusiasts aren’t choosing this over a Tesla, Dodge simply just missed on this one
@@Junitago Rated down by everyone simply bc “It’s not what we’re used to?” . The same silly, childish reason they have to destroy everything new. I would have told them NO! Go review something else or buy 1. Then you can rate it however you like.
@@milton112 no because big v8 enthusiasts have no interest in an EV and ev enthusiasts never wanted a "muscle" car with fake sounds
@@milton112it’s a horrible EV, Tesla model 3 performance is faster, handles better, more technology built in, weighs almost 2000 lbs less and is 30k+ cheaper.
Lmao they just killed a great V8 to make a 6000 pound fridge with speakers
Their hands are more and more being forced.
“Think green” 🤦♂️😂 really some bullshit… ford Mustang on top.
Lol. No shit
To be fair they were forced to, Dodge of all companies is probably the last one to care about EVs
@@allansamuel9631 no, Tavares wanted to force EVs and it’s why Tim left dodge
I've never wanted to protest the end of a car so bad. I hate everything about it.
amen to that brotha
Thing is horrible
Imagine programming downshift lag into electric car lmao i can't
It kicks down from gear 1 to gear 1 lmao
A factory pre-installed cope device. I want to quit reality.
Ridiculous!
Desperate to make an EV as much like ICE as they can.
Car is a fucking nightmare for car guys. This needs to be junked immediately
"We drove the new Challenger so you never have to" that's a better title.
Charger😂
@@lowtunedg9211it’s neither so what’s your point
@@TobinTwinsHockey his point is the OP cant read, lol
@@dre32pitt I thought it was kinda obvious 😂🤣😂🤣
Amen!
So a company that's infamous for electrical issues is making the Charger electric...I'm making popcorn for this.
4:26 Lo and behold 😂
Facts. The UPlay in my Scat Pack is kicking my ass😂
Being sold by a company with a three month inventory of unsold cars.
@@shadowblack10 That's software, not electrical.
Since when?
If a critical sensor that will cause a Chrysler/dodge/jeep engine to cook itself to death 100,000 miles early costs $0.20, versus a critical sensor that costs $0.21 that will preserve a vehicle for 100,000 miles and give repair free operating time, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep will always always opt for the $0.20 sensor to save $0.01 per vehicle.
Rember that!
Most of the other car companies won’t do such a thing
There is going to be a ton of these just sitting on the dealers' lots
Jeeps are already sitting. I think Stellantis is aiming for a buyout on purpose. 🙃
Good lease deals to be had
@@monopolizedopamine Well, that was Elkann's strategy during FCA's last days, soooooo...strong maybe?
What a complete joke and yet another f*ck up by Stellantis. That shot itself already in the feet a long time ago.. And now committed economical suicide and shot itself straight trough the head with this electric “muscle car” that nobody wants, wich costs a eye-watering 90k, soulless, heavy aircraft carrier with a freaking speaker that suppose to sounds like a car.. Gimme a f*cking break! What a time we live in.. The bigger picture imo is that the so-called “green” and “sustainable” woke agenda with their toxic tentacles has even penetrated the automotive sector.. the recently Jaguar saga is the most atrocious example of it! 😒
Already some sitting on lots in my area. The price tag is over 70k for the cheapest. Safe to say nobody is buying
We're 6 months away from 0% for 72 ads for these cars
More like 0% for 84
@@ainnocentone At $1,100 a month 🤣
I wouldn't buy one of these at 1/3 the price.
still talking over 1k for a car payment. i'm sure they'll lease for $200 a month b/c youll own nothing and be happy. got to get these car prices back to normal.
Sold, if you throw in Quattro subwoofers.
2 months
It’s slower in track mode cuz the speakers steal power from the motors🤣
Steal
LMFAOO
@@johnathanbusha8919 thanks
Don't be a caveman hater. Tesla are very popular. And a good car to sleep drive....this has personality
😂😂
As an Arizona native, guilty as charged with the gunshots in the background 😂
agreed!
The fake noises is what gets me lol.
Imagine having a gas car that does horse noise 😂
Better yet, if EVs can try to “sound” like a gas car, then gas cars should be able to claim they are as “environmentally friendly” as EVs.
Install a speaker exhaust on a gas car.😂
Actually the first gas cars did make horse noises
What car brands really need to do is try to embrace and improve upon the electric motor sound. If we managed to do it with gas engines then we can certainly do it with electric cars. Dodge should have followed what Porsche did.
That’s funny! 🤣🤣🤣
I would have absolutely no interest in a review of this car if it wasn't for you guys.
That's true I wish these guys would just add me and we can go ahead and do our own top gear they do need an American a belligerent American that's me
Ditto
lol same here 🤣
I have one and honestly they're great! We just have to adapt to the future lol.
Only reason I tuned in…
This is the dumbest vehicle I’ve seen in a long time
Go look at the Jaguar Type if you want ugly and dumb.
see ya tomorrow when the next "Retro-EV-Legend"shows up
My honda trail 125 doesnt have any speakers playing fake audio
Cybertruck has entered the chat
This car is ten pounds of shit in a two pound bag. The now former CEO (rightly so) must have wanted to see the company burn.
Like a governor
So it's electric with a fake V8 sound, electric with slow throttle response, electric with turbo lag, fake V8 with turbo sneezes, 4WD which does RWD burnouts, slower in full-attack than in auto, heavier than a two-story house, and will be electric with gear shifts? I mean... Is it really all we don't want in an ICE car with all the disadvantages of an EV? WTAF?!
The government financially incentivizes companies to produce a product that they know nobody will buy. Are you surprised that the product is shit?
Its like a vegan beef
It's called A MIMIC Effect
yup they built the ultimate boomer ricer car ever XD
Chrysler made the worst EV possible, and is probably going to blame the failure on lack of interest lol
Look at how they massacred my boy…
The Godfather has fallen
This is the Fredo Corleone of muscle cars and the JJ Soprano of EVs
more like rebuilt my boi
Remember who clipped your nuts!!
Lol
Them: and it SOUNDS like THIS.
The EV: RAWR in Dolby Digital 😂😂😂
"Roblox ahhh car"
And then there is still the optional thx package
Dolby Atmos
shoulda gone Harman & Kardon obv
dolby digital? that shit is in 90s THQ opening title shitty pc game level of quality lmao
This has to be a joke, I’m crying right now 😂😂😂😭
Fun fact: Most Dodge executives opposed electrification and wanted the V8 to stay in production, but Carlos Tavares forced them to make it Electric.
Maybe that's the malicious compliance. They made the EV crap so the ICE models outsell it.
Should have brought back Plymouth and gave them all the EVs
Fun fact they sold more ModelYs then they did rams in 2024.
@@fleetgt EV simp detected
Well screw that guy!
This is not a scat pack, this is just scat.
Nah just a pack
More like scam pack
@@FreeeGlockkyou realise scat is an acronym for shit right ?
I’m assuming not judging by your pfp and username 😂🤦🏼♂️
@Maitonytroll or that.
Shit pack 💩💩💩
At that weight, it wouldn't even be allowed through the Panama canal.
Good your mom joke right there
I knew this would be bad, but I wasn’t expecting THIS bad
Fun fact: The burnout sound also comes from the speakers 😂😂😂
I thought you were joking until I saw the said burnout!😂😂😂
Might be from the front tires. They seemed to be spinning a little quicker. I'm not convinced, though. They really needed to not put in any fake sounds and just let the electric motor be noisy.
Oh god that's cringe af
Well that's.....lame. lol
LMAOOOO
I look forward to not buying one of these used for $12,000 in two years.
Pretty much 😆
I find it mind boggling that someone would click on a video that is all around directed to a vehicle they absolutely hate just to hate on it and provide no feedback on it whatsoever. That sums up to car community in 2024. Bring back 2010 humbleness please...
@@demetriusbartholomeweveryone hates it.its an ev.
@@demetriusbartholomewheres some feedback, put a v8 in it
@@demetriusbartholomew consumers don’t want to improve on new EV’s, consumers don’t want EV’s. This charger is a shell.
They are trying so hard not to say anything bad about this car lmao
"I like it, i actually like it"
Yeah, sure buddy.
@IROC-Z28 ..."I think the sound is really nice"
..."Uhhhhhhhh yeah"
........"Actually yeah I like it I'm sure I do it's great"
It's not just them, many other reviewers too. The threat from Stellantis is very strong on this launch.
@@chriseaton2730i test drove it, its a nice EV - no where does it feel like a muscke car though
@@88pts yeah but if you were actually in the market for an ev is this even a legit option vs a testla?
"I don't like the touch screen buttons."
"Capacitive."
"Whatever."
Top tier journalism.
17:09
it looks like an off-brand Hot Wheels
Dat wheel gap tho.
Matchbox
Matchbox is actualy Quality... @@Azkeroth
Them: "One big problem"
Me: That it's ugly as shit and might break down off the assembly line? 🙃
Tomico?
Now the word scat really makes sense
Gotta pack it in too. It's called scat pack to describe the favorite activity of scat pack owners
mental ilness core
Hahaha! I see what you did there!
when the scat pack was released i unconsciously went "shit bag", its a knee jerk reaction to say shit bag every time i see a challenger
💩 😂
Sounds like a vaccum cleaner when you suck up a sock on accident
My brain read that with a C where there shouldn't be one and I got shocked for a moment 😂
Ok, the only things I can appreciate about it is it looks like the vintage Coke Bottle Charger. It's got a great boxy front end a grill and the boxy tail. The two door too is nice to see make a come back.
People: we like loud powerful muscle cars.
Dodge: let's discontinue them and make an imitation instead.
Dodge didn't want to I'm a dodge fan but but wht when they had to discontinued the v8 it hurts my soul but same time I did some research and realized that they had to don't hate on the ev charger its still new to the world
A different power train doesn't make it a imitation
@@el_covfefe No but they openly said that its a replication to a V8 rumble
@josiahrichardson5752 it's not a replica of a V8 rumble, it's the electric engine going through a sound chamber.
@@Dar2turnt It was tavarises fault, now that he resigned there might be a chance that the hemi comes back, or maybe even a clean sheet desing.
Just what Stelantis needs, a car with more electronics. They can't even competently make their current ones.
This, 1000% this.
About as reasonably competent as Jaguar doing the same thing after having to literally buy back 3k+ I paces that they couldnt ever fix after YEARS and, like Stalantis, have some of the slowest and outdated infotainments in the business…absolutely moronic.
We have a pacifica who's HU has been glichy in the year and a half I have owned it. It has been in several times. It is waiting on a head unit to even be able to be ordered.
I was told early in the process by uConnect, it was becase or phones are too new. I told them that was a BS excuse and they should hired better software devs if my being at x.x.5 instead of x.x.4 is going to break things. Kenwood doesn't have that problem.
Just look at this review its already having a software glitch or malfunction.
we have brand new dodge trucks where i work and randomly you turn the key and nothing
I can already see it...
Warranty: Ends
Car enthusiasts: "6.4l HEMI Swap, it's show time"
I doubt that, since now it’s French technology and let’s just say, you don’t f with that since you will end up regretting it without a warranty
@@maximilianocisneros2102you’ll regret effing with anything French, warranty or no. Unless you’re invading France, then they’ll just kinda roll over and let you take the place 😂
@@maximilianocisneros2102 As far as I remember, electric stuff was never their(French) thing. Everything was over complicated… but historically, it was multiple times when there are some heads that figured out everything and just replaced every single wire and you have your swap done
It’s just a matter of time
@@maximilianocisneros2102 As opposed to an American reengineered Merc, lol? Old Charger has been for sale since 2 decades ago and has never been reliable. Not long ago the French had one of the most reliable and efficient diesels on the market and have always had reliability issues because they were innovators, not because they were cheaply built like their american counterparts (dodge, chrysler, ford, chevy, etc...). You wont see french cars with broken axles (300C), rust issues (all 2000s ford) or grenading engines (chevy since forever).
@@AI-qd4vb I would really disagree to the rust issues, my friend. I live in Warsaw and there are hell lot of french cars "without" rocker panels or fenders, or both.
I mean cars 1990s till mid 2010s.
2019 Scatpack here, I was trying to upgrade but thanks to you now I won't. Hopefully I can get my hands on a gently used 😂 Hellcat or Demon.
I watch for the Throttle House guys. Doing everything they can to try and make these horrible boring new cars somewhat interesting. Bless their hearts.
You gotta hand it to them. They obviously have to play the game but I'm glad they still speak their minds about things.
One of the most interesting cars I've seen in years, though.
I mean if they gave their honest opinions, I don’t think GM would ever give them a car lol
@@christiangwenner6384Not a criticism, I'm just wondering what about this car you find to be interesting? The front wing is cool but out of place, in my opinion, and that's really all I can think of. The speakers are super cheesy, but I guess that's why people buy chargers/challengers anyways
They need to stop and tell the truth
I feel like I'm turning into an old man resisting change.
If it is a good change but it is not.
funny thing Gen Zs hate EV cars too
I'm only 24 and I don't like this thing. It wasn't made out of choice. It was forced upon Dodge by the European side of Stellantis. It sucks and they know it. They never even gave the chargers/challengers a hybrid (which it so desperately needed).
if it makes you feel better im 21 and hate this shit
Nah it's just a modern Dodge. They are all junk ev or gas
This feels like cyberpunk 2077 without the hype
It’s the car you steal and get right out of just for the achievement.
😊❤
A lot of good the hype did to that piece of shit on launch. And the first few months. lol
Lol patch 1.2
Because it's trying to make itself look like it's still the same old thing you love. Hyundai has been leaning fully into cyberpunk and I love them for it.
When that hairdryer can also make toast while I'm driving, it might be interesting. But rolling up to "the spot" in one of these with the fake subwoofer exhaust is gonna get you laughed off the lot.
$90k CAD is wild
Ya, I feel like Canada gets screwed on car pricing, especially EV pricing
It's going to get even more wild after January 2025
For a doge Mitsubishi hybrid idk
Bruh ON GOD 😭
Wait one year and it’ll be worth $10k or less.
this thing's top speed is 134, down from the previous scat pack's goddamn 175
Don't worry the tires will blow out before you get to 100.
If the technology is not there, dont built it.
I get that we have fleet fuel consumption laws (very unconstitutional!), but Dodge just should have kept building affordable V8's and sue the US govt. for commie lawmaking would def. have made more money with that!
And you won’t legally be able to go either speed
@@surrealengineering7884 why is it unconstitutional?
I'm sure they'll sell an update to allow you to go faster. Only $100 a month
Stage 2 badge on the side of this car is exactly for the kind of customer that will buy it 🤣
People that buy AutoZone badges can't afford an 80k single dude car.
@@Marinereconz28they can at 30% APR
That’s the first thing that caught me off guard. Rip that shit off man..,.,
@@Marinereconz28 they can when grandma pays the mortgage and insurance
@@Marinereconz28 You'd be surprised how many of them can
When video game sound engineers try to recreate V8 noises
Pov : where's that V8?
Dodge : What? We have speakers.
Pov : where's that V8?
Dodge : What? We're homosexuals now.
@@cheesefries7436no no, that's Jaguar 😂
True @@JDubST
Pov: where's the V8 ?
Dodge: we have Fratzonic
Pov: wait what ?
I appreciate your effort Dodge ...
I'll be keeping my 21 Scat pack.
til some yns steal it
@@gdelite9772 the yns will soon be stealing these
@gdelite9772 anything's possible, but I've never had one stolen. Plus fully insured 😁
@@fusetitanuse an OBD blocker and you’ll be fine.
Good advice thanks 💪🏻@@DylanT18
It’s came out today, that former CEO Carlos Tavares of Stellantis personally killed the Hemi. Apparently the entire upper management fought him, but he said he wanted the V8 dead for a greener future.
With no plans in place, or new model to replace the charger, he killed the most profitable vehicle the company made. All to prove a point he could do it.
One of the worst decisions in business history.
Hope the new CEO brings the v8 bk
Ghosn v2.0
He needs to go get a job at Tesla!
Something needs to be done about this eco terrorism. It's getting ridiculous.
@@bryangillis1839 All under the repeated on the lie that ICEs HAVE to use fossil fuels.
11:59 😂😂😂
"What are you trying to say?"😂😂
RIP Charger/Challenger, Old Gen will never be forgotten.
Not to worry, the v8s are on their way back.
God, I hope so!
@@MJ-fj9yvTim K is back in the saddle and rumor has it they’ve already requested a bunch of hellcat V8s, but those may be destined for some ram 1500s. But they’ve been testing ICE chargers in Mexico as well.
@ Awesome news, indeed.
Hopefully this is going to be the first, and last electric charger to ever exist
Even if it is, V8s are dead
You have to understand….Eventually V8s will be obsolete. It wont happen in our lifetime, but in two more centuries it could happen. It’ll get to a point where no one will have to drive, and we can travel automatically way quicker….Eventually, airplanes will only be needed for overseas travel.
@@Ironslice1
False. Just about all car makers have basically abandoned EVs.
V8s will still be around
EV is the future airhead
$16k is the best i can do for that fancy golf cart
And you'd STILL be overpaying!
Damn
Toaster
Lmaoooo
To be fair I'm sure 16k is your life savings
Good Review they should have never got rid of the HEMI
From Hellcat to HellNo!!!!!!
"Duuuuuude your exhaust sounds amazing! What is it?"
"Just a few Fosgates!"
"Yo! Rev them Pioneers!"
Id have to upgrade to JL Audio.
I’ll always die on the hill that hybrid systems should have gotten WAAAAAAAYYY more love over EV’s. You see it with the new 911 GTS, but still.
Big problem being that hybrids are still scheduled to be banned in Europe whereas EVs aren’t, so all the development money has gone into EVs…
@@neilturner6749 Which is sad really, no one wants an EV, not anymore or not ever, so yeah
in the US a lot of brands are giving in to hybrids because of all the problems with EVs. as long as theyre designed right a hybrid is universally better than an EV in most uses
@@neilturner6749 And they wonder why China is skyrocketing past them in innovation and economically.
It's one thing to care for the environment, it's another to overdo it in the name of appeasing political radicals who see families with children and farmers as "problems that need to be sorted out."
Oh yes, two systems that I have to pay to repair when they break. Super awesome.
Remember when you used cloths pins and playing cards in your bicycle spokes to sound cool? RIP Dodge
2 things i love:
V8 hemi
Pizza
Throttle house
1 thing i don't love:
EV charger scat pack
Stellantis
you mean thro ho?
Thank the WEF for the end of fun. We will have to be an elite to even drive any car in a few years, let alone a boring EV.
Electric cars aren’t simply the future. The electrification of all transport isn’t realistic and even possible. By far not enough rare earths to build those stupid so-called “durable” and “green” electric nightmare. And to charge all that net-zero stupidity in the near future, is more coper needed than there is ever mined from day one in the coming years! That fact alone clearly shows the hypocrisy, insanity and tunnel vision of policymakers and governments about this eco-socialist utopia! 😒
I'm honestly excited for the I6
I've always preferred a good inline to any V
It’s not that it doesn’t have a V8, the Nissan GTR does not have a V8 and that car is beautiful. This Dodge is an ugly looking car. The front end is the only good looking part of the exterior. Even if you put a V8, it’s an ugly car with a V8.
This car is the auto industry shitting on my plate and telling me it’s chocolate.
It says scat right on the side.
Sprinkles on dog shit comes to mind
@@truantray 😂😂😂
This car is as bad as eating fake meat,
"Something is wrong in the software." Dudes, you're in a Stellantis vehicle.
It's not a bug, it's a feature
Love you guys.. keep briging joy =D
that what i feel when i watch you guys ^^
Never clicked so fast before. Dodge what have they done! Calling this "The fastest Muscle car" is laughable!
They forgot the 850hp Mustang GTD exists, which btw set the 5th fastest lap record around the Nurburgring. Like bruh, Stellantis has fallen off a cliff 😂
@@Knightmare22that’s like 800k I think
@@Knightmare22 Ok, a BIT of a price differential between them (plus one is not really a muscle car).
so jarring seeing a youtuber you actually know in a totally unrelated comments section lol
@@archieprentice918true
The fartsonic bringing the 1997 Gran Turismo PS1 level of audio quality.
Even if it was high-quality realistic sounding... fake exhaust sounds are a sin against car culture
thats the problem. yeah we're elitists and electric haters and blablabla but this shit sounds horrid
it's like that "mod" you'd do on your bike, putting a can on the rear wheel. even that sounded better cause IT'S AN ACTUAL SOUND BEING MADE not played by a speaker
also looking at the rear of the car "revving" with no vibration or smoke or anything is just disgusting
fuck this
My brother came in and asked: is that Gran Turismo 5?
Oh, it's definitely not that good.
@@yurilopes420
Bro, a guy hanging out of the window with a trombone would sound better than that fake exhaust noise, and that'd be way cheaper than whatever Dodge probably spent on developing this tech. It's just sad.
No emotion, no spirit and Dodge still can't get trunk lids to line up
So fuxking true
To be fair, this is pre-prod.
@@faeinthebay To be fair, all of their cars are pre-prod
So fabulous! I hope you bought that little Dior bag. It is so cute. You are right. The kislux is handbag heaven.
0:49 I'm into both EVs and ICE and this is an insult to both tbh 😂😂😂😂😂
That was my first thought.
Hyundai did it right by separating their EV models from their normal lineup. How did Dodge not learn from Ford's mistake of using the Mustang moniker on an EV model
to be entirely fair, the Mach-E’s name wasn’t stupid because it was an EV, it was stupid because they called a 5-door SUV a “Mustang” just because it was sporty and they grafted stang taillights onto it.
If it was a sporty EV SUV with Mustang taillights that they ONLY called the “Ford Mach-E” and NOT the “Ford Mustang Mach-E” I think it would’ve been fine
@@lemonscented7703 Well the marketing worked on my dumb ahh neighbor, he has a gt for himself and a mach e for his wife😂😂
Putting speakers in an EV to imitate an engine exhaust sound is too funny.
@@komzatonHC oh yeah! Like making vegetarian food taste like meat 🤦♂️
@@mateschitzlike putting a bbl on a man and calling him a her 💀
Same as putting a piece of cardboard on a bicycle wheel to make fake motorcycle noise.
Like vegans making rice paper into bacon
Why not, they already put a speaker in the V8’s to make them sound like a batter V8. Almost all ICE vehicles have a speaker on the inside to make them sound better.
“They haven’t gone full Bud Light…” - James 🤣🤣
Man the new hellcat replica from gta 6 looks crazy.
The GTA one looks and performs better than this
"... because THIS, is an EV."
"DON'T TURN IT OFF YET!!" 😂😂😂
Too late, I turned it off right away 😢
They literally know it’s garbage and proceed to show off the worst part
Posting at midnight during finals week is evil work. But I’m gonna watch it.
Mustang 🐎 the only one hanging in there
EVs are already hard enough for good companies to get right. There is no way in heck I’d buy this thing.
You gonna buy the ICE version? Or ya just complaining about EV's?
And the government is basically forcing them to seem they to us
@@LePedant Why would anyone buy the 6 cylinder charger lol
@@py0rt Because the base one has 420 HP, 50 more HP than the 5.7L V8. Also, the high output one has 500HP, 15 more HP than the 6.2L V8 Scat Pack.
@@LePedant It also weighs 540 lbs more
Midnight uploads are crazy 😭
Can’t sleep so…
Haha, 4pm in Australia.
I'm here for it
9pm California
10 am india
This is not a muscle car, it’s a soulless appliance.
For me this is sad as I hoped they did better escaping the "appliance" feel...
If they are just put a hemi v8 there, and keep awd for the top end version, and name it somehow like charger hellfire or something, it would be an amazing car. Gosh, just a v8 and they are done a perfect job.
But no, ev and a six cil, meanwhile Mustang has a v8 and its amazing, new tech, good design, and a v8. My money will go to a ford if i want a muscle car, or I'll still buy and old charger.
Dear Stellantis,
We like the way cars sound because we appreciate where the sound comes from and what happened to make said sound.
I can get the same result of the "charger" EV "exhaust" with a golf cart, my walmart soundbar, and an MP3 player.
Sincerely,
Someone who hopes whoever buys you next year actually knows how to run a company.
Part of it is the govv forcing them to go down this path. The hope is that with T coming back in, this madness of electric will end.
Honestly you are lucky, since in Europe they have more strict sound pollution laws that makes most cars have a fake exhaust system and they sound all the same
Bluetooth speaker and plastic cup. Or, if you want it cheaper, can of beans and about 2 hours.
@@barsaf9989 not with his butt buddy Elon at the helm
Stellantis is a European company, and Europe is forcing EV full force
Imagine getting pulled over and the cop tells you to turn down the volume next time💀
“Officer they didn’t add that feature”
😂😂😂😂
@@byda1830😂😂😂
As a Charger owner for 5 years now that thing makes me cry.... a legacy getting murdered in 1 generation. The price is ridicioulus for what you get IMHO, the artificial exhaust embarrassing. 5700+ lbs is just the icing on the cake. Also why do they hand out a vehicle with buggy software? Would expect dodge to test that stuff like the track mode.
At least the interior looks nice but thats all the positive here for me
Also why would they give them a car with orange peel lol, you’d think they would want to put the best quality car they have for reviewers. Unless this is the best they can do and the regular copies will be even worse
Lmfao if you think this is bad you should look up the Dodge Hornet. Total unreliable trash being delivered pre-broken right off the truck.
Straight up hijacking names like Charger and Mustang trying push this shit down folk’s throats is bonkers. Down right blasphemy.
Sounds like a 90's arcade game FFS🤮
This IS a pre-production car, in its defense.
I've always been a Dodge guy, but I think I'll take the Mustang Dark Horse over this.
The stelantis dealers are going to have trouble moving all their gladiators and electric jeeps to make room for more scrap metal inventory
I agree but someone will buy one. Hopefully they sell just one, scrap the whole project, regain their sanity, and go back to larger gas engines with no exhaust, which is what we want.
@jasonpitts8395 V32 engines, straight piped, leadded gas
I was able to talk to my GM from the Dodge/RAM dealer I worked at a few years ago and he said that the amount of of people not interested in this thing is a big concern based off of some dealer/manufacturer surveys
Let’s put it this way… I have a hellcat and it’ll be my last challenger/charger.
Who’s surprised?
1:00 Sounds like when my vacuum cleaner gets clogged.
😂 That's it!!
Lol
LOL THIS IS SO TRUE
The Mustang Mach E is a HUNDRED TIMES MORE PRACTICAL (and a lot less money)
This is why you guys are worth watching. You give honest reviews and don't worry about calling the manufactures baby ugly. We could use more of that.
This thing weighs 1,700 lbs more than the $55k Tesla Model 3 Performance which is a 4 door sedan that runs 10s in the 1/4 mile. This Dodge isn’t quick at all and it is way overpriced. It is just a terrible effort at making an EV.
It's mainly the fact that they designed an ICE vehicle and then slapped an EV powertrain in and called it a day.
The model 3 doesn't look sporty at all, and it's expensive as well, correct?
@@systemoptimizer3542 Who cares what it looks like when the performance is that much better and it's still $35,000 cheaper than this? Oh, but it looks sportier.. lol, wtf point are you trying to make? You don't make any sense.
@@systemoptimizer3542red model 3 performance with 20s wheels & red calipers with carbon spoiler is pretty much sport look, but damn it's performance is much superior compared to this & plus, you can buy FSD for 8K$ & still save money...
choosing this car over model 3 performance is just nothing more than support of the manufacturer, that's all.
Make a pussla look like a grandma car. And it's much larger and cooler. In every respect
As a long time Mopar fan, you two are literally the only reason I haven't turned off the video after the word EV. They finally get the shape of the charger somewhat actually like a charger and then do this with it. Yes, I don't care if there's a six cylinder combustion version. There's already planned for the new hemi V8 to fit into this one.
That's exciting
Yes but again, you can't really blame Dodge when they've been taking loses on every V8 they sold for the past 4 years under Biden. Ford dropped the V8 in their F150 for a decade to keep the Mustang. Don't like where the auto industry is headed? Make sure you and other car guys vote for the right people next time.
What new Hemi V8? The only engines they're producing right now are the Hurricane TT V6 and the Hellephant V8.
Is there?
So far it only seems like conjecture from "maybe folk who have insider info," maybe randos blowing smoke.
At least no one I follow seems to be on that train. Yeah, with Tavares gone and Trump 2.0 there's distant hope maybe, but that's all I see
Supposedly the hemi won't fit in this
We really living like the movie the Dilemma!!😂😂😂
Thumbs up for the video, thumbs down for the car. Bring back the hemi.
You know that Chrysler stopped making the HEMI 50 years ago? The third gen is no HEMI. Just because it has funny valve angles and a million plugs doesn't mean it's a HEMI, it's just a (better) pent roof with marketing wank attached to it.
They haven't gone full Bud light is a sneaky diss😂
Until they need money from Daddy Larry Fink.
T: "I think it sounds kinda cool!"
J: "I think ... [receives payment] ... yea."
😂
Exactly lol
Bs, keep your negativity for your family.