2013 Honda Civic Si - Redline: Review
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With the demise of the S2000, NSX, and Prelude, the 2013 Civic Si stands as one of the last fun to drive vehicles in Honda's current line-up. While its turbocharged competition may sound better on paper, drops of that old "Honda magic" can still be found throughout this vehicle earning it a top spot in its segment. If you are in the market for a well rounded sport compact to serve as your daily driver, this vehicle should be at the top of your list.
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"If you cant drive a manual and don't even think of going to honda to ask if they can put an automatic in there because honda will probably never will" Best line of the whole review SAVE the Manuals
I liked that line too.
yes! #savethemanual
its even worse now than what we thought. Coupes are gone smh
Ok, the real quote made sense, but you botched it bad lol
in a few years the civic will be the size of an accord. Honda please keep this car small and bring back the hatchback.
Agreed on both
...and it IS the size of an Accord now. :P :) Good prediction stuntdoogie. :)
stuntdoogie You realize you predicted the future right
stuntdoogie Hah. Hindsight is 20/20
4 years later and you predicted the future.
This 2.4L engine sounds better than the new 1.5L turbo.
What sounds better?? The exhaust doesn't sound better. The engine note stock for stock sound the same. With intakes, they are subjective.
yes i totally agree. the k series has unmatched intake sound compared to the L series. the L series exhaust can be a bit better at some points though
Exactly the new 1.5 has fake induction piped into the interior
Both cars fbo tune and guess whats faster? the 1.5l turbo
@@JonahLongworth There's only fake engine noise from the Civic SI with the 1.5t.
I don't see any other manufacturers making over 200 horsepower with a naturally aspirated 2.4 liter engine. Honda has been doing this since the 90's. Give credit where credit is due. Guarantee that if you remove the turbos from all of the competition those cars wouldn't come anywhere near 200 horses.
The MS3 probably does
The Ricer Mechanics speed 3 are turbo charged stock
I agree I mean 201 HP from 2.4L is just impressive. Honda has done that for years. I mean even the 2.0L K20 motor from the S2000 for example, that made 240 HP from only 2.0L which is 120 HP/L. I don’t see anyone else doing that, and the engines are all N/A which is an even greater feat.
i just bought this a couple weeks ago and i'm 100% pleased with my decision. I drove the brand new st's and gti's as well and i think the si is faster acceleration wise but def not top speed. i just wish they did a little better job with the exterior but all in all its a fun drive
can you hear the exhaust while driving?
I'm debating on getting one of thse for my first car ... is it worth it .. are they really good sports cars
they need to bring back the prelude as rwd with a nice look that stands out.
I have a 2012 Si and I absolutely love it. I checked out the GTI, Speed3 and WRX and only the Si fit the budget and feel perfectly. There is definite sporty high end rev with this model that some of the others don't have. In my opinion only the WRX made me waver in my purchase choice, but I like the svelte subdued effect of the Si that the WRX most definitely doesn't have. Great video review by the way.
I recently bought a 2013 Civic Si sedan as my first car and I’m absolutely loving it. Probably the best Si considering it has that K24Z7. Ticks all boxes!
For a show called "2theRedline", you sure don't redline that Civic enough haha.
Not much more, 225 hp back then. Also, that car cost around $40 grand in 2003. Today, a new 335xi will cost you around $50 grand at least.
This guy is really good at his job! His reviews are thorough.
Its nice to have an option to get an NA car in the market of turbo chargers, for me as a medical student - reliability is the most important factory and with an Si this is the best choice, not to mention the awesome resale value.
If you are a professional student or keep cars for more than the warranty period, get the Si - it will save you the headache of turbo charged cars and you will get most of your money back when you are ready to upgrade.
From personal experience; I have a friend with a 2009 GTi DSG - he currently has 94k miles on it and he already had to replace the turbo on it, the Dual clutch gearbox requires expensive fluid flushes (At least in the VW) every 30k miles (around $500 at the dealership),
With the civic si, all you need are oil changes & a transmission fluid flush every 50k miles (which is dirt cheap compared to the GTi)
If you get a sedan Si you will also have the dirt cheap insurance for it aswell..
Are the insurance rates cheap for this car?
insurance really depends on so many factors like age, location, driving record, credit score etc etc.
but overall a sedan civic Si is very cheap to insure, for example mine is about $120 a month for full coverage and a low deductible.
5:40 - fuck that, never drove a manual, still bought an Si
Good, u still like it?
Nice haha! I'm thinking about doing the same. What year do you have?
Exactly! This guy is just a hater.
same, i wanted a manual
About to be me this weekend
Unfortunately, the weather in our area hasn't been cooperating, it's been either cold, windy, or rainy for over a week. Don't worry, it's supposed to warm up next week and we will be back to filming :)
I think that the main thing that most people that review this car never talk about is that its a good aftermarket car i dont know about others but if a got a new civic it would be mainly a aftermarket car its very easy to add a turbo to them and get very good results.
We appreciate the support :) our editor in chief chooses to leave out the WRX or Evo because it is AWD. Even though, price wise it does compete some buyers do not want or need AWD which is why he sticks to FWD models. We should be reviewing Subaru and Mazda soon!
As much as I have always been a bmw fan my whole life I really enjoyed this review! Sure the si isn't the fastest car out there, but there's something about the si that one is drawn to. It clearly shows honda's racing roots and a honda engine is built to last and the sound of v-tec is music to my ears. A great daily driver car.
Depending on how you equip your GTI it will be either a little or a lot more expensive than the Si. However, you will still notice the GTI is quicker, quieter, more luxurious, and more comfortable. The Si is louder, lighter, more fun around corners, and will have the superior resale and reliability over the VW. It's really up to you, if you want that more grown up, premium look and feel, go with the GTI, if you want more of a boy racer look with a screaming engine, go with the Si.
Just sweet! Glad I got one (2013 Si Sedan) in blue. Planning in changing the exhaust configuration and the intake to add up about 20-30 more HP to it. Pretty darn good Si that can compete and beat any 4-cans out there...
...well done, Honda!
Probably the best Si imho!
GREAT review! one of the only good, in-depth reviews about the new si on youtube, all the others are dealers trying to sell the car. Im considering trading for an si and this video has helped a ton with my decision making process. i recently drove the new si and its a totally kick ass car! totally responsive, sleek and the new features are awesome for the price! Keep up the good reviews, guys.
KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE ROAD!
Oh, and I like the car.
Although the Si may not be turbocharged, acceleration wise it can keep up surprisingly well with the GTI and price wise it falls right in line with the turbo competition. The Forte and tC are less expensive and cannot keep up power wise.
Redline Reviews. Your title for this video is misleading to viewers. It should say "2013 Honda Civic Si Coupe" not 2013 Honda Civic Si.
They're the same car, essentially.They just have different body styles
+Okie Rider You have WAY too much free time on your hands, don't you?
You just listed most of the reasons why the Si is still a great choice in the segment. Sure, performance wise, the Si cannot compete with the Focus ST and Speed3 but that doesn't mean the Si isn't fun to drive in its own way. Most buyers find the handling to be sharp, combine it with the high revving engine and quick shifting 6 speed; you have a vehicle that will still put a smile on your face. Match it with Honda dependability and value and you have the reason why the Si sells pretty well.
How did the sound system sound with it all the way up lol?
Jonathan and yWashington
i like my sound system in the 2012, has a small subwoofer in the back sounds nice
Mostly it is just the NAV system with voice recognition but it also rolls in XM radio as well.
Again its not a TSX engine its a totally different engine WTF people.. Not the same engine the TSX uses K24Z3 while the Si uses K24Z7 engine get your facts straight.
Different heads same engine.... The block is the same a k24 is a k24.
hnnotyy lol they share the same block. Only the heads are different. So he's partially right. Also the tuning is much different.
i bought this as my first car 3 weeks ago in the same color, still learning manual on it but I love this thing so much
Bought a 2013 Si sedan as my first car 3 week ago too!
i wish this si was awd.
DudeLore it would be so fucking amazing .
That's really up to you, our editor-in-chief cannot drive without the satellite radio but if you don't need it than skip the navigation package entirely. Honda does offer the Sat radio as a dealer accessory but at $400 dollars, it's a pricey option again.
2014 Si even better..
It came out yet? I can't wait lol I asked the dealer the other day n he told me he didn't know when the car will be available.....
DX LIU No end of April
Lusus420 Just a few tweeks is all.
i have a 14 si i love it.
Michael Benson I just got one last week. Traded a VW turbo Beetle which had several reliability issues and it was barely a year old . Chose Honda for reliability. I do miss the turbo though.
That's what we were thinking. While the 4 cyl LX-S Accord coupe does come very close to the price of a base Si, the Accord simply has a different mission. You need to decide which is more important for you: a comfortable, sporty looking daily driver, or a quick and high strung corner carver with a louder exhaust note. The Accord is def the more mature car but it won't be as fun as the Si to drive. It's really up to you, take both for a drive and then you should be able to make a decision.
See videos of the 2014 Civic Si on my channel!
You have to remember not everyone thinks the way you do. Sure the speed3 has way more power, but for some people it's too much. The Mazda is also 300 lbs heavier than the Si, so it needs more power. The Si has it's advantages in ride quality, fuel economy, and value while some people may dislike the styling of the Mazda compared to the cleaner appearance of the Honda. Both vehicle have their advantages, and in the end it comes down to your personal preference and needs.
8th gen sounds and looks better
It may be under-powered in terms of the numbers, but the lighter weight of the Si allows it to keep pace and be even quicker than some competitors. 0-60 in 6.1 secs according to most test, place it just behind a Speed3 and ST which do the same sprint in 5.8-5.9 secs.
7:18
Fail.
You make an excellent point, however, keep in mind American cars are built to a much higher standard today vs.10 years ago when the Neon SRT-4 was out. Reliability is still unknown for the Focus ST but it's initial build quality is much improved vs its predecessor, the SVT Focus.
that's the 2012? right?
Tf is wrong with you
+Awesome Randomness Google it
+Awesome Randomness wait nvm I was talking about the 4 door not the coupe
+Richard Medina oh ok
Thank you! We are extremely thrilled that you enjoyed it and how it has helped you with your decision. Have you figured out whether you wanted the coupe or sedan yet?
Interior sounds incredibly loud.
its not at all. very quite and smoothe ride.
the b biddim I have one, lots of car noise and doesn't handle well 75+. I'll typically cruise the freeway at 80 so I notice it quite a bit. Not a bad daily driver but can't wait to get rid of it. Im glad it holds its value.
the b biddim It's not supposed to be a soft, billowy Buick for Grandma, dude lol
We were comparing this 2013 Si to the 2013 Civic EX we also reviewed back in Dec. The 12 Si and 13 Si are the same in that regard.
Supposedly, the 13 model has thicker sway bars but we didn't really notice. Only thing we did notice was the reduced road noise.
Apologies, we just meant if you don't know how to drive stick and have no desire to learn to not bother. The Si is a great car to learn how to drive stick on :)
Everyone is different. You may think the WRX has a soft ride but others may say it's harsh. For you, the backseat can fit 3 people, someone else will say it's far too cramped. You may think the MPG is good, someone else may say its a gas guzzler. Everyone has different taste and needs, if you like your WRX, that is great. We simply state that for the majority of buyers, most will find the Si to be roomier, have more tech, get better MPG, and have a softer ride.
Where are you getting $2,000 more? The cheapest Accord V6 coupe is priced at $31,140 without NAVI. The Si is priced almost $8,000 less than the Accord V6 coupe.
You're comparing the price of this Si which has the optional $1500 Navigation package with a base MS3. You need to add the Tech package to the Mazda and that pushes the price up by $2500 to $27,500.
my parents just bought me this car for my 16th birthday and im absolutely in love with it we have some rims on it and some new racing tires which makes it grip super well 6 speed manual Transmisson all just perfect
you cannot compare the weight of a vehicle built from the early 90's to today. Safety regulations and tech features have forced all vehicles to be much heavier.
True, the Civic Si still lacks torque vs more powerful rivals. But again, at 2900 lbs it's 200-300 lbs lighter than a GTI, Speed3, and Focus ST
The 1.8 B18 motor never made 200 hp at least not in the U.S. The most it made came from the Intergra Type R at 195 hp. Impressive for sure but the old B18 motor had little torque and required high revs to get any power. While we do understand the appeal of high revs, this new 2.4L still supplies that high revving character while also giving you torque down low so the power is much more usable everyday.
You guys make the most entertaining videos. I watched the whole thing, full screen, no other distractions and paid complete attention. There are very few other RUclips channels I can say the same thing about. Well done.
He probably should have, but he was also using the engine breaking to help slow the car down around the corner.
The rear view camera will show up in the 5 inch i-MID display when you get a model without NAVI. Choosing between these two model will be tough. Both have strengths and weaknesses based on what is important to you. Both are priced roughly the same with the Accord Sport being a bit more. Tech features are pretty close, since all the really good tech is saved for the EX and above Accords. The Civic will be more fun to drive and quicker, plus easier to park but the Accord will be more comfortable.
The GTI you are describing is not the same price as this. A fully loaded Autobahn model cost about $30,000 or $5,000 more than this Civic Si. While we agree, we want those premium features, not everyone does and it's why the Civic Si still sells so well.
In terms of road noise, the GTI is still the quietest. However, compared to the 2012 you drove, this 13 model is a bit quieter, you will hear more of that lovely exhaust noise more over the road noise. Is it improved enough? That's really up for you to decide, drive the new model when you get the chance :)
Hey man I want to thank you for this reply considerably! It's only Sunday and I guarantee that was the best laugh I will have all week.
The last cool civic coupe, and the last NA civic SI coupe before it goes turbo! Miss the times when Honda made powerful, small and screaming NA engines! I wish diecast car makers made these!
While they do compete price wise, the fact that they are RWD gives the vehicle a different feel. Which is not a bad thing and we don't blame people for cross shopping however, some buyers don't want RWD which is why we stick with the FWD competition.
Loved how you did this one versus the others. Camera positioning and everything.
Most likely no since this coupe drives the same. However, we should be reviewing an ILX 6MT soon.
We can understand why you preferred the ST, for some the Si's character just doesn't suit them which is why the turbocharged competitors exist. Cars are supposed to be an extension of yourself and they express your own individuality.
You just stated the price for the Si with NAV. The model without it starts about $1500 less.
You're right, we think the dated navigation system is pricey. In fact, if it didn't roll in satellite radio with the package, we'd skip it entirely.
I would buy this over the ST and speed3 but I would take a GTI/GLI over this any day. Still a pretty sweet car! And a great review!
You have to look at the whole picture besides performance. The Si has more tech, a nicer interior, better gas mileage, and a better ride quality. Sure the WRX may run circle around it but the Si is easier to live with everyday.
There shouldn't be any differences between the 2013 and 2014 Civic since Honda significantly refreshed it this year.
We may also add an ILX 6MT to the list depending on the deal an Acura dealer will do
The STI is roughly the same as the Golf R which is $10,000 more than the Civic Si.
FR-S will be a better track car but the Si will be a better daily driver.
That Acura TSX 2.4L DOHC VTEC 4 cylinder is a fantastic sounding engine. Typical Honda, with that free revving nature and amazing VTEC sound.
Probably not the Si model as it could get the teen in trouble with the law, but the regular Civic is always a great first car
The current Si weighs about 2900 lbs, or roughly the same as the 2011 model.
That window separation on the side doors near the mirrors looks like the ol 80s conversion vans the little windows that pop out lol
Hill assist just keeps the vehicle from rolling back on a steep hill. We like it simply because it helps drivers who aren't as good driving a stick, especially if it's your car they are driving ;)
I'm from the old school, the technique for engaging the clutch on steep hills is to use the e-brake, is tricky but it works, i never even knew there was a a" hill holding clutch".
Look at the history of the Si name, has Honda ever put an automatic in it?
Dude, something's wrong here. I don't mean to argue or call BS on your statement but I'm 6'3 and just purchased the 2013 sedan Si two weeks ago and my head comes nowhere near touching the interior of the ceiling roof. Maybe the coupe is different but I'm actually astonished at how much head room I actually have in my Honda. BTW, I'm sure all of the skeptics can point to other cars that are faster/leaner/quicker/cheaper/what-ever... bottom line is that this car brings a smile to my face every day
I scrolled down to the comments to hopefully see intelligent debates concerning this car and its' rivals. Instead I am reading about the Holocaust and Vietnam. Close enough.
Now in 2022 I got one of these as my first cad and it is still one of the best things ever. It is fun and zippy just driving to school!
Would u recommend I get it? The one I'm looking at is a 2013 with 100k miles on it for $18,000
@@ya_boi_zak5927 I would totally recommend trying to get one. That seems a bit high for that many miles but I think most cars are going way high right now. If you can see if you could get one cheaper from a high volume dealership. They might mark one down because it’s a manual it idk if that trick works now🤷♂️
@@ya_boi_zak5927 as long as that one seems well taken care of then I would totally recommend getting it!!!
@@Cms-rl3wo yea that's what I thought too. It's from a dealership. I know hondas last long so I wouldn't mind paying that much. I could probably find one from a private seller for cheaper. Either way I'm getting one!
"I used to hate Civics but only because I was judging the drivers rather than the car"
That's too funny! I did the same thing for two decades! Last year Honda posted low finance rates. I was on my way out of town to buy a Scion XB that had manual transmission and I stopped to try a Civic just to prove to myself I was right all those years, dealer was only a few hundred yards from highway. My attitude was totally negative. I drove an LX and was impressed, then drove an Si and was hooked.
The torque steer on the MS3 is not excessive even in stock form with the weak OEM engine mounts. I don't do launches in my car, but say I'm rolling along after shifting out from first and I put it into second, and floor the pedal. I would feel a bit of that torque steer even with both hands on the wheel, but it never once made me feel as if it was pulling out of control. My car is now stage 2, with all 3 upgraded engine mounts, and it's gotten even better.
Yes, Honda's manual transmissions all have that safety feature.
I like how you did this review camera wise. You should do it for all or them.. It may take more work, but it's worth it and doesn't bore the viewer
That's what it's called... What would you call it then...
I just bought the exact model you tested same color and all, it's a great little tuner and I am very happy with the purchase Super Torquie and a lot of fun to drive.
Yeah I used to hate Civics but only because I was judging the drivers rather than the car. And the new 2013 model was a huge update. Very affordable with a lot to offer. I'm so excited to get the car!
Agree. I'm keeping my 2000 Si with 1116k miles on it, and will probably drive it until it falls apart.
I wish Honda/Acura would come out with a no frills sports car again like a new Type R.
Professionally done review. Starting price of the SI is only about $700 less than a '13 Accord Sport, which has 18-inch wheels, paddle shif, dual exhaust and about 10 more pounds of torque. Although the SI has a LSD and may be faster around corners, the Accord Sport seems to provide an overall better value and practicality for the money. Best package: Accord Sport and a used S2000 for the CA canyons or Rt 129 (Tail of the Dragon
most people would distinguish the coupe from the sedan by the lack of 2 doors. Not the interior stitching.
Same here. I went to a Honda dealership that was giving me a great offer. I test drove the new Si and fell in love. It was so easy to drive. But I then found out that they were lying to me just to get me into the dealership. Well they wasted my time and theirs as well. I got a real deal at a Mazda dealership and got myself a pre-owned Mazdaspeed 3. Hey it's better than the Si I think lol.
What people are missing about the SI VS the WRX is(I own a 2013 WRX and had a 2002 SI), the SI is a hoot to drive because you can rev it up and use all the power it has without reaching reckless levels of speed. The WRX will destroy an SI, but the SI is so much more useable in the real world. The WRX is almost too fast! You do get more for your money with the WRX and I have no regrets purchasing mine over the SI or MS3 or a Mustang 5.0, but its easy to miss the purpose of the SI. Great car!
Si used to be feared on the streets, now my 20 year old chevy sedan can compete, lol. Honda needs to get it together.
Yeah, you're right. Actually i tried both coupe and sedan and you have more head room on sedan than coupe. However i dislike the rear of the sedan and love the coupe more that's why i posted it on a coupe video. Congrats on your purchase, it's a good choice no matter what others people say.
wow. the vehicle changed direction when you turned the steering wheel. impressive.
I bought one about 6 weeks ago. Black sedan w/nav. I would agree with the review. However, if your expectation is to have the SI's performance compete with the GLI/GTI, ST or Speed3, you will be disappointed. That is not what this car is intended to be. This is a reliable daily driver that looks sporty and has a touch of performance. You won't be doing track days or leaving sport bikes at stop lights with this car.
Well, the ignorance is what we are trying to change. We certainly wouldn't try to take you on unless we were driving an STI, Mustang GT, or BMW 135i ;)
Your channel and review keep getting better and better!
Thank you! Very nice upgrade for you as well :)
Honda isn't what it once was when it comes to quality and dependability. The SI is completely outclassed in this segment.